[proletar] Re: 'Minority women' (Dipo yang sedeng & berita yang disampaikan item abu

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Dipo jelas tidak SILAU ! Ini fitnah. Jusfiq harus minta maap.
khidmat lagi.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas"  wrote:
>
> INI FITNAH ! benar2 fitnah ! Dipo tidak SIKAU tahu !
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi menyilaukan yang disampaikan "item 
> > abu" yaitu sejumlah berita tentang kelakuan busuk atau biadab orang Islam, 
> > Dipo yang memang sudah nggak waras itu bukannnya merasa prihatin membaca 
> > berita yang menjijikkan atau mengerikan itu tapi malah pamer isi otaknya 
> > yang sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan dengan menyebar 
> > fitnah.
> > 
> > Islam itu, saya bilang dan saya ulang, merusak otak rata-rata pengikutnya..
> >  
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
> > > Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 
> > > 
> > > tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
> > > Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 
> > > 
> > > --- "widura"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 
> > > > gini ?...
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: item abu 
> > > > 
> > > > > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang 
> > > > > merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam. 
> > > > > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu 
> > > > > merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn 
> > > > > kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam yg soleh dan 
> > > > > bertaqwa.
> > > > >
> > > > > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > > > > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat 
> > > > > lainnya.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02
> > > > > IANS, Apr 26, 2011, 02.00pm IST
> > > > > Tags:
> > > > >   * Taslima Nasreen
> > > > > DHAKA:  A judicial commission has concluded that over 200 Hindu 
> > > > > women were raped following the 2001 parliamentary election, 
> > > > > forcing many terrorized families to flee the country.
> > > > > The acts were allegedly committed  by cadres of the Bangladesh 
> > > > > Nationalist Party (BNP) and its ally  Jamaat-e-Islami who won the 
> > > > > 2001 polls, the report said, citing the  involvement of many top 
> > > > > leaders and lawmakers of the alliance that is  now in the 
> > > > > opposition.
> > > > > While the commission referred to the victims as "minority women", 
> > > > > media reports of that period had identified them as Hindus.
> > > > > With Begum Khaleda Zia as the prime minister, the BNP-Jamaat 
> > > > > alliance ruled Bangladesh during 2001-06.
> > > > > The violence went on for 15 months and "the barbarous act was 
> > > > > intended  to force them to leave the country. They were, in the 
> > > > > eyes of the  culprits, enemies as they voted for the Awami 
> > > > > League", The Daily Star  said on Tuesday, quoting commission 
> > > > > sources.
> > > > > The commission  submitted the report to home minister Sahara 
> > > > > Khatun. It lists 3,625  incidents of major crimes, including 
> > > > > killing, rape, arson and looting.
> > > > > Media reports at that time had detailed the plight of hundreds of 
> > > > > Hindu families crossing over to India, forcing the Indian 
> > > > > government to  express concern.
> > > > > Bangladeshi poet Daud Hyder, who visited the camps in India where 
> > > > > these families were lodged and wrote about it, was later charged 
> > > > > with sedition and imprisoned.
> > > > > The wave of violence was the subject of "Lajja" by novelist 
> > > > > Taslima Nasreen, who angered the Islamists at home and was had to 
> > > > > quit Bangladesh. She still remains exiled.
> > > > > Many victims and their family members interviewed by the probe 
> > > > > panel  narrated harrowing experiences, but said they did not 
> > > > > lodge police  reports or undergo forensic tests for fear of 
> > > > > inviting social stigma,  the report says.
> > > > > Many victims and their family members across the country 
> > > > > contacted the commission when it was conducting the probe.
> > > > > According to the panel, it would be "tough or, to some extent,  
> > > > > impossible" to continue the probe into the rape allegations "as 
> > > > > the  victims themselves are unwilling to do the legal battle".
> > > > > The  probe panel found that most of the gang rapes occurred in 
> > > > > the country's southern part - Bhola, Barisal, Agoiljhara and 
> > > > > Gaurnadi.
> > > > > The  accused were acquitted for lack of witnesses. In some cases, 
> > > > > police gave final reports while the names 

[proletar] Re: The eunuch for jihad

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia
si anjing sipit lagi ngayal sembari jilatin kontol seperti anjing gw.

nggak ada nabi gua nyabo seperti tuhan jesus.

yang udah jelas dan tertulis di alkitab tuhan jesus piara cabo yang namanya 
sama seperti nama ibunya sendiri.  sama lah ngasih contoh ke elu yang juga 
piara cabo yang punya nama sama dengan nama ibu lu sendiri, sesuai dengan 
alkitab.

kaco si anjing sipit.., nama cabo piaraannya musti sama dengan nama ibunya 
sendiri.



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe nabi itu sendiri bilang jangan ngeharamin apa yg dihalalin auloh 
> sambil ngijinin ngelacur. Artinya ngelacur itu emang dihalalin auloh.
> 
> Apa nabi ga pernah ke pelacur? Hrsnya sih nabi suka buat ngasih contoh ke 
> orang 
> Islam spy melakukan apa yg dihalalin auloh.
> 
> Tapi berhubung nabi, maka ma fi fulus alias gratis ga bayar.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: rezameutia 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 10:01:31 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: The eunuch for jihad
> 
>
> si anjing sipit mulai ngayal lagi, dimulai dengan kata-kata "gua rasa" sambil 
> ngayal nabi ngembat cabo.
> 
> nabi nggak pernah nyabo, apalagi sampe piara cabo yang namanya sama dengan 
> nama 
> ibunya seperti tuhan jesus.  jangan disamain lah nabi yang gagah perkasa 
> dengan 
> tuhan jesus si pecundang tolol.
> 
> gw tanya kedua kalinya, njing.  'kenapa tuhan jesus memilih cabo yang punya 
> nama 
> sama dengan nama ibunya sendiri?' 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >
> > Hehehe... pejihad Islam ini demi auloh mau bikin diri sendiri jadi impoten.
> > 
> > Gua rasa ini pasti krn ga ada PSK, maka si pejihad ini mau ngebiri sendiri, 
> >kalo 
> >
> > ada, kan tinggal ngembat PSK spt ajaran nabi.
> > 
> > Maklum, orang Islam itu emang gila sex, dimulai dr nabi Islam sampe ke 
> > orang 
> > Islam di jaman ini.
> > 
> > Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 139: 
> > Narrated Abdullah: 
> > >We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet and  
> > > we 
> >
> > >had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet ). "Shall   
> > >we 
> > >castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet forbade us to do that and   
> >thenceforth 
> >
> > >he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her  even a 
> >garment, 
> >
> > >and then he recited:  "O you who believe! Do not make   unlawful the 
> > >good 
> 
> > >things which Allah has made lawful for you." Islam itu emang agama yg 
> > >benar 
> >unt 
> >
> > >tukang bunuh dan sex maniak, masalahnya itu cuma ada satu, kadang ceweknya 
> > >aja 
> >
> > >ga tersedia, jadi kepaksa deh jadi kasim, hehehe..
> > 
> > Saran gua buat orang2 Islam plus habe di milis ini, kalo udah ga ketahan, 
> > drpd 
> 
> > ngeloco di milis ini, mendingan jadi kasim aja deh.
> > 
> > 
> > The eunuch for jihad
> > Soft jihadist
> > 
> > For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs  
> > who 
> > have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made  
> > themselves 
> 
> > eunuchs for the sake of murdering infidels.
> > "Al-Qaeda leader put jihad before a sex life," by Holly Watt in the 
> > Telegraph, 
> 
> > April 26 (thanks to all who sent this in):
> > One of the most senior members of al-Qaeda held at  Guantánamo took 
> > injections 
> >
> > â€Å"to promote impotence� to avoid being  
> > â€Å"distracted� by women, according 
> >to 
> >
> > evidence uncovered by investigators. 
> > 
> > >Abd al-Rahim Hussein Muhammad Abdah al-Nashiri, a Saudi Arabian, was  said 
> > >to 
> 
> > >have reported directly to Osama bin Laden. His interrogators  reported: 
> > >â€Å"Detainee is so dedicated to jihad that he reportedly received  
> > >injections 
> >to 
> >
> > >promote impotence and recommended the injections to  others.�
> > >He received the injections â€Å"so more time could be spent on jihad 
> > >â€" rather 
> >than 
> >
> > >being distracted by women�.
> > >According to the notes, al-Nashiri was allegedly â€Å"the senior  
> > >operative� 
> >in the 
> >
> > >attack on USS Cole, an American destroyer, in October  2000. Seventeen US 
> > >sailors were killed in the suicide attack in a Yemeni  port, while dozens 
> > >were 
> >
> > >injuredPosted by Robert on April 27, 2011 10:27 AM  | 26 Comments 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
>  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[proletar] Kang sur

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas Amin
Tenang saja kang sur, seperti biasanya.
Tapi saya heran, biasanya jusfiq tak pernah menyerang kang sur; ada apa ini ?


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[proletar] Re: Orang Islam lebih rendah dr anjing

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia
hehehe...

si anjing sipit nggak bisa ngebantah kalo dirinya sama dengan anjing yang demen 
ngencuk anak sendiri, ngencuk bini orang.  cuman bedanya si anjing sipit piara 
cabo yang namanya sama dengan nama ibunya sendiri.




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe... orang Islam ga bisa bantah bhw orang Islam itu lebih rendah dr 
> anjing 
> krn anjing ga ngegigit tangan yg ngasih makan si anjing, sementara orang 
> Islam 
> itu selalu ngegigit tangan orang yg ngasih makan si orang Islam.
> 
> Gua rasa, satu2nya hal di mana orang Islam selevel dgn anjing adalah dlm soal 
> birahi. Anjing langsung pengen ngentot kalo lagi birahi dan ngeliat ada 
> anjing 
> betina. Orang Islam jg sama, langsung hrs ngentot kalo lagi birahi sesuai dgn 
> sunnah nabi.
> 
> Apa beda nabi dgn anjing? Anjing itu lebih bermoral dr nabi, hehehe
> 
> Hadis Muslim
> Chapter 2: HE WHO SEES A WOMAN, AND HIS HEART IS AFFECTED, SHOULD COME TO HIS 
> WIFE, AND SHOULD HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH HER 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Book 008, Number 3240:   
> Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) saw a  woman, 
> and 
> so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather  and had sexual 
> intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and  told them: The 
> woman 
> advances and retires in the shape of a devil, so  when one of you sees a 
> woman, 
> he should come to his wife, for that will  repel what he feels in his heart.
> 
>  Book 008, Number 3241:   
> Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him)  saw 
> a 
> woman; and the rest of the hadith was narrated but (with this  exception) 
> that 
> he said he came to his wife Zainab, who was tanning a  (piece of) leather, 
> and 
> he made no mention of:" She retires in the shape  of satan."
> 
>  Book 008, Number 3242:   
> Jabir heard Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) say: When a woman  
> fascinates any one of you and she captivates his heart, he should go to  his 
> wife and have an intercourse with her, for it would repel what he  feels.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> From: ndeboost 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 10:01:06 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Orang Islam lebih rendah dr anjing
> 
>
> Si @dapurmu disamping menghayal juga bohong, kek Paulus
> Perhatikan apa kata Tuhannya
> 
> Mat 7:6  "Jangan kamu memberikan barang yang kudus kepada anjing dan
> jangan kamu melemparkan mutiaramu kepada babi, supaya jangan
> diinjak-injaknya dengan kakinya, lalu ia berbalik mengoyak kamu."
> 
> @dapurmu yg KATEBE anjing maupun babi, mana merasa.
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> >
> > kalo umat kristen taat kayak elu sama dengan anjing ya?!
> >
> > persamaannya elu dan anjing, elu dan anjing ngencuk anak sendiri, elu
> dan anjing ngencuk 'every bitch'.
> >
> > perbedaannya elu dengan anjing, anjing nggak piara cabo yang namanya
> sama dengan nama ibunya sendiri, seperti kelakuan elu dan tuhan jesus.
> >
> > jadi umat kristen yang taat kayak elu elu lebih rendah dari anjing...
> >
> > hehehe...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hehehe... di sini kita lihat gimana orang Islam ngegigit tangan yg
> ngasih makan
> > > mereka.
> > >
> > > Padahal anjing aja ga gitu, anjing gua misalnya, biar gua masukin
> tangan  gua ke
> > > mulut anjing gua, si anjing itu ga ngegigit tangan gua.
> > >
> > >
> > > Emang orang Islam itu lebih rendah dr anjing atau babi.
> > >
> > >
> > > "We urge all Muslims to stay away from the royal wedding...because
> of the
> > > likelihood of an attack by the Mujahideen"
> > > Come on in and make yourselves at home, fellows. What could possibly
> go wrong?
> > > Notice the grievance-mongering. Assad Ullah is situating any 
> potential attack
> > > within the Islamic theological framework of defensive  jihad.
> > > "Muslim group claims royal wedding is legitimate terror target," by
> Victoria
> > > Ward in the Telegraph, April 27 (thanks to all who sent this in):
> > > The royal wedding is a “legitimate target” for a
> terrorist  attack because of
> > > Britain’s foreign policy and the invasion of Iraq and 
> Afghanistan, a radical
> > > Islamic group has claimed.
> > >
> > > >Muslims Against Crusades, which had its application to protest on 
> Friday turned
> > > >down by police, yesterday urged Muslims to stay away from  central
> London when
> > > >Prince William marries Kate Middleton and to avoid  all means of
> public
> > > >transport due to the heightened risk of an attack.
> > > >Assad Ullah, leader of the extremist campaign group, insisted that
> it  had no
> > > >“inside knowledge” but was simply repeating security
> fears that  have already
> > > >been widely reported.
> > > >“There is a legitimate Islam opinion that those who have
> been attacked hav

[proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Kalo pendeta nilep duit perpuluhan, maka itu namanya maling.
> 


itu bukan 'kalo' lagi.  memang pendeta lu maling semuanya pada nilep 
perpuluhan.  pendeta tong, pendeta bethani, semuanya nilep duit perpuluhan kok.


> Kalo orang Islam nilep duit zakat 100%, itu halal 100%, krn auloh udah bilang 
> duit zakat itu antara lain buat yg ngurus duit zakat.
> 
> Yg nilep duit zakat itu bisa ngaku sbg orang soleh atau soleha dan ga akan 
> ada 
> yg bantah krn dihalalin auloh, hehehehe..
> 
> 


hehehe...

si anjing lagi ngayal sembari jilatin kontol sendiri.

si anjing sipit nggak tau kalo duit zakat nggak perlu dikasih ke ulama seperti 
perpuluhan yang harus dikasih ke pendeta,  makanya, nggak heran kalo pendeta 
kristen pada kaya karena semua pendetanya nilep uang perpuluhan. 

> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: rezameutia 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 9:45:10 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> 
>
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >
> > Pasti tuh gereja2 ga bayar uang keamanan.
> >
> 
> pasti lah nggak bayar, soale tuh gereja nggak ada duitnya.
> 
> duit perpuluhan umatnya ditilep ama pendetanya. 
> pendeta kristen tuh semuanya maling duit perpuluhan umatnya.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: widura 
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 5:32:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > 
> > 
> > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya 
> > toleran...tapi 
> > kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo 
> > itu 
> > bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja berbuat seperti itu...
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "sunny" 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47 
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > 
> > http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-jombang
> > 
> > 
> > FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang 
> > Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51 
> > Muji Lestari 
> > Hits: 832 
> > 
> > 
> > KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa Timur 
> > mengaku 
> > tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di gereja, pada Minggu 
> > kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang anggota milisi sipil 
> > FPI 
> > dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan, dari Persekutuan Gereja 
> > dan 
> > Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir 
> > meski 
> >
> > gereja-gereja dijaga aparat kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini 
> > FPI 
> > lebih banyak dikenal dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
> > 
> > "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir, cemas 
> >sehingga 
> >
> > ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut ibadah. Takut dengan 
> > adanya 
> > kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar Jombang. Kalau Jombang saja 
> > mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari luar Jombang yang seakan -akan 
> > sehingga 
> 
> > acara mereka sudah membuat umat ini bertanya -tanya apakan kita ini aman 
> > nggak 
> 
> > dalam ibadah ini."
> > 
> > Kemarin, ribuan orang mengenakan atribut kelompok milisi sipil FPI 
> > membanjiri 
> > Jombang Jawa Timur. Mereka datang dari berbagai daerah untuk menghadiri 
> > pengajian akbar FPI.
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
>  
> 
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[proletar] Re: 'Minority women' (Dipo yang sedeng & berita yang disampaikan item abu

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
INI FITNAH ! benar2 fitnah ! Dipo tidak SIKAU tahu !
Kau harus minta maaf sama DIPO dan dilakukan dengan khidmat pula !

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi menyilaukan yang disampaikan "item 
> abu" yaitu sejumlah berita tentang kelakuan busuk atau biadab orang Islam, 
> Dipo yang memang sudah nggak waras itu bukannnya merasa prihatin membaca 
> berita yang menjijikkan atau mengerikan itu tapi malah pamer isi otaknya yang 
> sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan dengan menyebar fitnah.
> 
> Islam itu, saya bilang dan saya ulang, merusak otak rata-rata pengikutnya..
>  
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
> > Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 
> > 
> > tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
> > Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 
> > 
> > --- "widura"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 
> > > gini ?...
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: item abu 
> > > 
> > > > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang 
> > > > merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > > > 
> > > > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam. 
> > > > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu 
> > > > merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn 
> > > > kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam yg soleh dan 
> > > > bertaqwa.
> > > >
> > > > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > > > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat 
> > > > lainnya.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02
> > > > IANS, Apr 26, 2011, 02.00pm IST
> > > > Tags:
> > > > * Taslima Nasreen
> > > > DHAKA:  A judicial commission has concluded that over 200 Hindu 
> > > > women were raped following the 2001 parliamentary election, 
> > > > forcing many terrorized families to flee the country.
> > > > The acts were allegedly committed  by cadres of the Bangladesh 
> > > > Nationalist Party (BNP) and its ally  Jamaat-e-Islami who won the 
> > > > 2001 polls, the report said, citing the  involvement of many top 
> > > > leaders and lawmakers of the alliance that is  now in the 
> > > > opposition.
> > > > While the commission referred to the victims as "minority women", 
> > > > media reports of that period had identified them as Hindus.
> > > > With Begum Khaleda Zia as the prime minister, the BNP-Jamaat 
> > > > alliance ruled Bangladesh during 2001-06.
> > > > The violence went on for 15 months and "the barbarous act was 
> > > > intended  to force them to leave the country. They were, in the 
> > > > eyes of the  culprits, enemies as they voted for the Awami 
> > > > League", The Daily Star  said on Tuesday, quoting commission 
> > > > sources.
> > > > The commission  submitted the report to home minister Sahara 
> > > > Khatun. It lists 3,625  incidents of major crimes, including 
> > > > killing, rape, arson and looting.
> > > > Media reports at that time had detailed the plight of hundreds of 
> > > > Hindu families crossing over to India, forcing the Indian 
> > > > government to  express concern.
> > > > Bangladeshi poet Daud Hyder, who visited the camps in India where 
> > > > these families were lodged and wrote about it, was later charged 
> > > > with sedition and imprisoned.
> > > > The wave of violence was the subject of "Lajja" by novelist 
> > > > Taslima Nasreen, who angered the Islamists at home and was had to 
> > > > quit Bangladesh. She still remains exiled.
> > > > Many victims and their family members interviewed by the probe 
> > > > panel  narrated harrowing experiences, but said they did not 
> > > > lodge police  reports or undergo forensic tests for fear of 
> > > > inviting social stigma,  the report says.
> > > > Many victims and their family members across the country 
> > > > contacted the commission when it was conducting the probe.
> > > > According to the panel, it would be "tough or, to some extent,  
> > > > impossible" to continue the probe into the rape allegations "as 
> > > > the  victims themselves are unwilling to do the legal battle".
> > > > The  probe panel found that most of the gang rapes occurred in 
> > > > the country's southern part - Bhola, Barisal, Agoiljhara and 
> > > > Gaurnadi.
> > > > The  accused were acquitted for lack of witnesses. In some cases, 
> > > > police gave final reports while the names of the accused were 
> > > > dropped in over 500  cases out of the 3,625 major incidents.
> > > > With the passing of a  decade, some of the accused utilised "good > > 
> > > > connection with ruling Awami  League men", which forced the 
> > > > police to drop ma

[proletar] Re: 'Minority women' (Dipo yang sedeng & berita yang disampaikan item abu

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
INI FITNAH ! benar2 fitnah ! Dipo tidak SIKAU tahu !


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi menyilaukan yang disampaikan "item 
> abu" yaitu sejumlah berita tentang kelakuan busuk atau biadab orang Islam, 
> Dipo yang memang sudah nggak waras itu bukannnya merasa prihatin membaca 
> berita yang menjijikkan atau mengerikan itu tapi malah pamer isi otaknya yang 
> sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan dengan menyebar fitnah.
> 
> Islam itu, saya bilang dan saya ulang, merusak otak rata-rata pengikutnya..
>  
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
> > Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 
> > 
> > tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
> > Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 
> > 
> > --- "widura"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 
> > > gini ?...
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: item abu 
> > > 
> > > > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang 
> > > > merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > > > 
> > > > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam. 
> > > > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu 
> > > > merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn 
> > > > kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam yg soleh dan 
> > > > bertaqwa.
> > > >
> > > > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > > > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat 
> > > > lainnya.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02
> > > > IANS, Apr 26, 2011, 02.00pm IST
> > > > Tags:
> > > > * Taslima Nasreen
> > > > DHAKA:  A judicial commission has concluded that over 200 Hindu 
> > > > women were raped following the 2001 parliamentary election, 
> > > > forcing many terrorized families to flee the country.
> > > > The acts were allegedly committed  by cadres of the Bangladesh 
> > > > Nationalist Party (BNP) and its ally  Jamaat-e-Islami who won the 
> > > > 2001 polls, the report said, citing the  involvement of many top 
> > > > leaders and lawmakers of the alliance that is  now in the 
> > > > opposition.
> > > > While the commission referred to the victims as "minority women", 
> > > > media reports of that period had identified them as Hindus.
> > > > With Begum Khaleda Zia as the prime minister, the BNP-Jamaat 
> > > > alliance ruled Bangladesh during 2001-06.
> > > > The violence went on for 15 months and "the barbarous act was 
> > > > intended  to force them to leave the country. They were, in the 
> > > > eyes of the  culprits, enemies as they voted for the Awami 
> > > > League", The Daily Star  said on Tuesday, quoting commission 
> > > > sources.
> > > > The commission  submitted the report to home minister Sahara 
> > > > Khatun. It lists 3,625  incidents of major crimes, including 
> > > > killing, rape, arson and looting.
> > > > Media reports at that time had detailed the plight of hundreds of 
> > > > Hindu families crossing over to India, forcing the Indian 
> > > > government to  express concern.
> > > > Bangladeshi poet Daud Hyder, who visited the camps in India where 
> > > > these families were lodged and wrote about it, was later charged 
> > > > with sedition and imprisoned.
> > > > The wave of violence was the subject of "Lajja" by novelist 
> > > > Taslima Nasreen, who angered the Islamists at home and was had to 
> > > > quit Bangladesh. She still remains exiled.
> > > > Many victims and their family members interviewed by the probe 
> > > > panel  narrated harrowing experiences, but said they did not 
> > > > lodge police  reports or undergo forensic tests for fear of 
> > > > inviting social stigma,  the report says.
> > > > Many victims and their family members across the country 
> > > > contacted the commission when it was conducting the probe.
> > > > According to the panel, it would be "tough or, to some extent,  
> > > > impossible" to continue the probe into the rape allegations "as 
> > > > the  victims themselves are unwilling to do the legal battle".
> > > > The  probe panel found that most of the gang rapes occurred in 
> > > > the country's southern part - Bhola, Barisal, Agoiljhara and 
> > > > Gaurnadi.
> > > > The  accused were acquitted for lack of witnesses. In some cases, 
> > > > police gave final reports while the names of the accused were 
> > > > dropped in over 500  cases out of the 3,625 major incidents.
> > > > With the passing of a  decade, some of the accused utilised "good > > 
> > > > connection with ruling Awami  League men", which forced the 
> > > > police to drop many cases, the media  report said.
> > > > The panel has named seve

Re: [proletar] Itemnya pantat Jusfiq

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Malaysia boleh punya upin-ipin, tapi proletar 
punya uplik-iplik. 

--- "Abbas"  wrote:

> Kakakakaakkk ! Ini pas dengan humoran si HB
> 
> --- "ajeg"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- "Habe"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Jelas item,
> > > wong dia keseringan menduduki si item abu
> > 
> > Kalo gitu gak mungkin pantat si uplik cuma item, 
> > pasti sebelah item sebelah abu-abu. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > goyang teru pik
> > 
> > se.
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: Itemnya pantat Jusfiq (Pergilah berobat Hasan Basri, anda jelas sudah gila..

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Kalau sudah terdesak; dan tak bisa balas; maka satu2nya senjata jusfiq hanyalah 
pergilah berobat bla blabla .
padahal dia sendiri sudah kadung tak TEROBATI !
No psychiater in the world can jhel and help him 
Dan salah satu bentuk kegilaannya adalah dia merasa jadi utusan tuhan 


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Pergilah berobat Hasan Basri, anda jelas sudah gila..
> 
> Terus menerus unjuk isi otak anda yang sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi 
> menjijikkan di mailing list ini tidak akan menolong anda.
> 
> Hanya prsikiater yang bisa menolong anda.
> 
> Pergilah berobat.
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Habe"  wrote:
> >
> > Jelas item,
> > wong dia keseringan menduduki si item abu
> > 
> > 
> > goyang teru pik
> >
>






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Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Oke, oke, 
iya gua tau lu cuma bisa ngomongin slangkangan. 
Semua orang juga taulah elu begitu. 

Elu sendiri gimana? Belum tau ya kalo elu 
spesialis ngomong slangkangan sejak masuk sini? 

Mendingan lu buru-buru kawin daripada curhat terus 
mendambakan slangkangan (sampe dongeng perkosaan pun 
bikin lu napsu). 

--- item abu  wrote:

> Hehehe... omongan sendiri aja diplintir2, tipikal orang Islam sih.
> 
> Yg paling doyan selangkangan itu adalah orang Islam, makanya ga 
> heran auloh jg sampe nyediain cewek perawan abadi dan pemuda cantik 
> khusus unt selangkangan orang Islam di sorga. Sampe spesial 
> disebut2 jg soal kontol ngaceng abadi milik orang Islam.
> 
> 
> Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God 
> admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are 
> houris(9) and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers 
> of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will 
> have an ever-erect penis.' "(10)(Sunan Ibn Maja)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ajeg 
>
> > Yang ngomongin slangkangan lu siapa kok 
> > bisa-bisanya kege-eran ada yang ngomongin 
> > slangkangan lu. 
> >
> > Gawat, ini sih bukan mlintir omongan orang 
> > tapi memang asli tolol, ngebongkar kedok 
> > sendiri bahwa dia juga napsu ama slangkangan 
> > sendiri. 
> > 
> > ck..ck... jadi bener nih elu atlet pasar malem? 
> > 
> > --- item abu  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hehehe... yg gua omongin itu selangkangan orang Islam koq, 
> > > bukan selangkangan gua.
> > > 
> > > Jadi, apa hubungan selangkangan gua dgn selangkangan orang 
> > > Islam sampe lu bisa ngomongin selangkangan gua?
> > >
> > > Kalo ngeliat orang Islam yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah dan 
> > > nyopot celana si orang Ahmadiyah yg udah jadi mayat itu, gua 
> > > jadi curiga bhw si orang Ahmadiyah itu diembat jg oleh orang 
> > > Islam.
> > >
> > > Jadi bisa aja nih orang2 Islam di milis ini jg punya minat yg 
> > > sama dgn orang2 yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah tsb.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: ajeg 
> > > 
> > > > Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
> > > > Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 
> > > >
> > > > tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
> > > > Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 
> > > >
> > > > --- "widura"  wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan 
> > > > model2 gini ?...
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: item abu 
> > > > 
> > > > > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata 
> > > > > tukang merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang 
> > > > > Islam. 
> > > > > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka  
> > > > > itu merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr 
> > > > > auloh, dgn kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam 
> > > > > yg soleh dan bertaqwa.
> > > > >
> > > > > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > > > > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan 
> > > > > keparat lainnya.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> >>http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
> >s
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
>  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: Itemnya pantat Jusfiq

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Kakakakaakkk ! Ini pas dengan humoran si HB

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- "Habe"  wrote:
> 
> > Jelas item,
> > wong dia keseringan menduduki si item abu
> 
> Kalo gitu gak mungkin pantat si uplik cuma item, 
> pasti sebelah item sebelah abu-abu. 
> 
> > 
> > goyang teru pik
> 
> se.
>






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Re: [proletar] Re: Marilah Berdiskusi Agama Dengan Landasan HAM (Contoh kemunafikan Suryana..

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik David Silalahi
topik yg ini makin panas sepertinya


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[proletar] Re: Nggak ada lagi ya orang Islam yang bilang ajaran Islam itu rahmat

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Sesungguhnya Islam adalah Rahmat buat umat manusia. Hanya manusianyalah yang 
bodoh dan tak mengerti; apalagi ditiup terus sama manusia seperti jusgiq ini !

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Nggak ada lagi ya orang Islam disini yang bilang ajaran Islam itu rahmat buat 
> ummat manusia..
> 
> Sesungguhnya ajaran Islam itu adalah laknat buat ummat manusia, artinya juga 
> buat orang Islam sendiri...
> 
> Ngak heran orang Islam itu demen saling menindas dan saling berbunuhan...
> 
> 
> 
> sem
>






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Bls: [proletar] Re: Marilah Berdiskusi Agama Dengan Landasan HAM (Contoh kemunafikan Suryana..

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Tukang fitnah nomor satu adalah Jusfiq !

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Karena Suryana, beda dari orang Nasrani lain, itu munafik  dan sekarang jadi 
> bajingan pendusta dan bangsat tukang fitnah seperti rata-rata orang Islam 
> disino, dan rajin menjilat pantat anda yang adalah kampiun pendusta dan 
> tukang fitnah di mailing ini.
> 
> Orang Nasrani yang lain rata-rata tetap berpegang kepada ajaran agama mereka 
> untuk tidak mùunafik, berpegang keapda "golden rule" dan menghindarkan dusta 
> dan fitnah...
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> >
> > iya bener...
> > 
> > si jusfiq memang makin tua makin gila.  saya yang lagi ngomong sama dia, 
> > tapi si suryana yang dimaki-maki.  bego yu orang kan?
> > 
> > salah sendiri sih, makin tua bukannya makin sadar tapi malahan makin sering 
> > ngeganja dan minum alkohol.  ya tentu aja si jusfiq makin tua makin sarap.  
> > kesian ye si jusfiq
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, PAREWA  wrote:
> > >
> > > Itulah akibatnya kalau suka ngegelek dan minum alkohol diwaktu muda, 
> > > tuanya jadi gila dan merana. Mana hidup dari tunjangan sosial lagi
> > > 
> > > --- Pada Sel, 26/4/11, rezameutia  menulis:
> > > 
> > > Dari: rezameutia 
> > > Judul: [proletar] Re: Marilah Berdiskusi Agama Dengan Landasan HAM 
> > > (Contoh kemunafikan Suryana..
> > > Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Tanggal: Selasa, 26 April, 2011, 6:34 PM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > > 
> > > anda sudah p[ikun.
> > > 
> > > berkali-kali anda mengatakan sendiri anda itu menghisap ganja dan minum 
> > > alkohol setiap hari, lho kok saya dikatakan fithah,  i call a spade a 
> > > spade.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Contoh kemunafikan Suryana..
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Dia TAHU rezamEutia memfitnah SAYA di mailinglist ini..
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Lalu dianggapnya urusan pribadi.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Udah kelar.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Dan diapun terus saja menjilat pantat rezameutia yang juga menghinanya 
> > > > sebagai ^penganut ajran Nasrani dan keturunan Tionghoa..  
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "gsuryana"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > >
> > > 
> > > > > Yup untuk tuduhan tersebut aku tidak bisa membantah, karena apa yang 
> > > > > kubaca 
> > > 
> > > > > memang demikian adanya.
> > > 
> > > > > Dalam hal ini Kang Reza sudah memfitnah Uda, dan menurutku itu sudah 
> > > > > menjadi 
> > > 
> > > > > urusan pribadi, sama seperti seorang member yang menyamakan aku 
> > > > > dengan Uda, 
> > > 
> > > > > dan aku hanya menulis beberapa kali setelah itu aku anggap tuntas, 
> > > > > karena 
> > > 
> > > > > dia tidak berniat sama sekali meminta maaf dan melakukan klarifikasi.
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > sur.
> > > 
> > > > > - Original Message - 
> > > 
> > > > > From: "utusan.allah" 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > >
> > > 
> > > > > > Anda tidak bisa amembantah bahwa rezameutia itu adalah tukang fitnah
> > > 
> > > > > > yang dungu lagi nista...
> > > 
> > > > > >
> > > 
> > > > > > Hanya karena saya berkata bahwa saya mengisap ganja sekali dan 
> > > > > > karena
> > > 
> > > > > > saya minum alkohol lalu saya difitnahnya junkie...
> > > 
> > > > > >
> > > 
> > > > > >
> > > 
> > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "gsuryana"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > >
> > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: Selain Suryana, apa ada orang Nasrani yang tukang fitnah disini?

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Kapan itu grepe ? Kau saksikan sendiri ? atau bicara tanpa makna ?
Apa kau kembali ke asal lagi ?


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "great.pretender2000" 
 wrote:
>
> Reza ga bisa bantah...
> dan sering kalah debat... :P...
> dan suka jilat burung si Suryana
> 
> GP
> 
> 2011/4/27 rezameutia 
> 
> >
> >
> > grepe itu perempuan nyamar laki2...
> > 'woman soul trap in man's body'.
> >
> > hehehe
> >
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "great.pretender2000"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Suryana itu Muslim nyamar Kristen...
> > > Karena Kristen tidak memfitnah
> > >
> > > dia mau merusak Kristen
> > >
> > > GP
> > >
> > > 2011/4/25 Jusfiq 
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Selain Suryana, apa ada orang Nasrani yang tukang fitnah disini?
> > > >
> > > > Sedangkan peserta yang menganut agama Islam itu rata-rata adalah
> > bajingan
> > > > pendusta dan bangsta tukang fitnah.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: Outrageous verdict

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Elo mau percaya omongan orang atau tidak, itu hak kamu. Tapi langsung menuduh 
suryana yang tidak2, dengan sangat sadist adalah diluar kemanusiaan.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Dan Suryana, sebelum kebusukan isi otaknya yang munafik ditunjukkan orang 
> disini bilang dia merasa kehilangan Asoka dan merasa sepi kalau saya pergi 
> pakansi (dan tidak mengirim posting) ...
> 
> Setelah kebusukan otaknya yang munafik itu ditunjukkan orang, lantas dia blok 
> posting saya dan postign "item abu"..
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> >
> > apa yang ada di pikiran si item muke kontol ketika ngencuk anak sendiri, 
> > ketika piara cabo yang namanya sama seperti nama ibunya seperti tuhan jesus 
> > ya?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hehehe apa yg ada di pikiran si suryana yg sipit waktu baca omongan 
> > > si 
> > > rezameutia ini?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: rezameutia 
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 8:09:39 AM
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Outrageous verdict
> > > 
> > >
> > > si anjing sipit udah kalap.
> > > 
> > > si anjing sipit seperti si junkie tua nggak sadar kalo emailnya di blok 
> > > orang 
> > > lain berarti tulisannya nggak bermutu sama sekali.  eh.., si anjing sipit 
> > > saking 
> > > gobloknya malahan ikut  'numpang' tulisan gw supaya tulisannya dibaca 
> > > suryana.
> > > 
> > > bego banget si anjing sipit...
> > > 
> > > udah gitu, si anjing sipit makin kalap.  si anjing sipit berdua sama 
> > > sodaranya, 
> > > sesama anjing yang tentunya pengencuk anak sendiri, si anjing sipit 
> > > bilang gw 
> > > najis kalo digigit.
> > > 
> > > wah..., gawat. 
> > > makin kalap nih si anjing sipit.
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hehehe ocehan si rezameutia ini tentunya dibaca si suryana krn si 
> > > > suryana 
> > > >ga 
> > > >
> > > > ngeblok posting si rezameutia.
> > > > 
> > > > Uenaknya saling jilat pantat antara suryana dan orang2 islam, hehehe...
> > > > 
> > > > Kalo gua sih, orang kayak si reza meutia ini kalo gua suruh anjing gua 
> > > > ngegigit 
> > > >
> > > > jg gua ogah, krn bikin najis anjing gua.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: rezameutia 
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 7:18:00 AM
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Outrageous verdict
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > mau ngentot anak sendiri?
> > > > mau ngentot bini orang?
> > > > mau menghina dan menyakiti ibu sendiri? 
> > > > piara aja cabo yang namanya sama dengan ibu sendiri.
> > > > 
> > > > semuanya hal kelakuan yang nista dan najis ini cuma ada di kristen. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mau jadi tukang merkosa? Masuk islam aja, hehehe
> > > > > 
> > > > > Islam itu emang agama yg benar unt tukang merkosa.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: sunny 
> > > > > To: Undisclosed-Recipient@
> > > > > Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 7:58:17 PM
> > > > > Subject: [proletar] Outrageous verdict
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://arabnews.com/opinion/editorial/article369994.ece
> > > > > 
> > > > > Editorial
> > > > > Apr 22, 2011 22:19
> > > > > Outrageous verdict
> > > > > The acquittal in the Mukhtaran Mai case is a blow to Pakistan itself 
> > > > > and to 
> > > >its 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > legal system
> > > > > 
> > > > > The acquittal by Pakistan's Supreme Court of five of the six men 
> > > > > charged with 
> > > >
> > > > > raping a girl because her 12-year-old brother had been seeing a girl 
> > > > > from 
> > > >their 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > family, has been greeted with outrage around the world.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This, however, should not be seen as a new cause for the 
> > > > > international 
> > > >women's 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > liberation movement but as a blow to Pakistan itself and to its legal 
> > > > > system. 
> > > >
> > > > > The conviction of one man who took part in the gang-rape was upheld 
> > > > > by 
> > > > > Pakistan's highest court, but the other five men walked free for, 
> > > > > according 
> > > >to 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > the court, lack of evidence. The convicted man saw his death sentence 
> > > >commuted 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > to life imprisonment.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There are three important lessons for Pakistan arising from this 
> > > > > sordid and 
> > > > > deplorable crime. The first is that such "punishments" are not 
> > > > > uncommon in a 
> > > 
> > > > > country where family honor is often paramount. It seems clear that as 
> > > > > a 
> > > >result 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > of the friendship between a young boy and a girl from another clan, 
>

[proletar] Re: Marilah Berdiskusi Agama Dengan Landasan HAM (Contoh kemunafikan Suryana..

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Kamu jangan NGIRI begitu jing !
Bilang saja kau ingin dijilat pantat !!!
Dana kau cemburu ! Bangsat !


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Bangsat penipu inilah yang pantatnya suka dijilat oleh Suryana..
> 
> Bajingan tukang fitnah inilah yang pantatanya suka dijilat oleh Suryana..
> 
> Saya yang bercerita mengisap ganja satu kali, lantas kapok, difitnahnya 
> junkie.
> 
> Saya yang berusaha menurutkan nasehat berbagai lembaga kesehatan di Eropa 
> untuk
> mengikuti diet mediteranian yang terdiri dari banyak sayur serta buah-buahan,
> minyak zaitun, dan ikan yang mengandung lemak dengan diiringi anggur dua atau
> tiga gelas anggur tiap hari dibilang alkoholik...
> 
> Dan sudah tahaunan saya difitnah junkie ..
> 
> Dan Suryana masih bilagn sekedar cuah cuih
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > anda sudah p[ikun.
> > berkali-kali anda mengatakan sendiri anda itu menghisap ganja dan minum 
> > alkohol setiap hari, lho kok saya dikatakan fithah,  i call a spade a spade.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Contoh kemunafikan Suryana..
> > > 
> > > Dia TAHU rezamEutia memfitnah SAYA di mailinglist ini..
> > > 
> > > Lalu dianggapnya urusan pribadi.
> > > 
> > > Udah kelar.
> > > 
> > > Dan diapun terus saja menjilat pantat rezameutia yang juga menghinanya 
> > > sebagai ^penganut ajran Nasrani dan keturunan Tionghoa..  
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "gsuryana"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yup untuk tuduhan tersebut aku tidak bisa membantah, karena apa yang 
> > > > kubaca 
> > > > memang demikian adanya.
> > > > Dalam hal ini Kang Reza sudah memfitnah Uda, dan menurutku itu sudah 
> > > > menjadi 
> > > > urusan pribadi, sama seperti seorang member yang menyamakan aku dengan 
> > > > Uda, 
> > > > dan aku hanya menulis beberapa kali setelah itu aku anggap tuntas, 
> > > > karena 
> > > > dia tidak berniat sama sekali meminta maaf dan melakukan klarifikasi.
> > > > 
> > > > sur.
> > > > - Original Message - 
> > > > From: "utusan.allah" 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Anda tidak bisa amembantah bahwa rezameutia itu adalah tukang fitnah
> > > > > yang dungu lagi nista...
> > > > >
> > > > > Hanya karena saya berkata bahwa saya mengisap ganja sekali dan karena
> > > > > saya minum alkohol lalu saya difitnahnya junkie...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "gsuryana"  wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: Selain Suryana, apa ada orang Nasrani yang tukang fitnah disini?

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Dan kau sangat memfitnah Jusfiq !! kau fitnah sangat keterlaluan suryana. Aku 
tak pernah menyaksikan suryana jilat pantat !
Mungkin kamu kali ?


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Bangsat penipu inilah yang pantatanya suka dijilat oleh Suryana..
> 
> Bajingan tukang fitnah inilah yang pantatanya suka dijilat oleh Suryana..
> 
> Dia fitnah saya "mengaku diri anda sendiri alkoholik dan junkie"
> 
> Jarang, sungguh jarang ada orang yang fikirannnya sebusuk dan senista fikiran 
> rezamautia ini.
> 
> Menjijikkan.
> 
> Dan pantatnya suka dijilat oleh Suryana.
>  
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> >
> > saya juga mau bertanya, "Selain Jusfiq, apa ada junkie sialan di milis ini?"
> > 
> > anda mengaku diri anda sendiri alkoholik dan junkie tapi ketika saya 
> > mengatakan apa yang anda katakan sendiri kok saya dikatakan fitnah?
> > 
> > dimana fitnahnya?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Nggak bisa bantah apa yang saya katakan dan yang dikatakan "item abu", 
> > > rezameutia yang hidup sengsara karena otaknya sudah dirusak ajaran agama 
> > > taiak anjing Islam dan mikir juga cuma dia bisa pake kontolnya yang nota 
> > > bene menderita premature ejaculation lantas  cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek 
> > > yang baru dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar pamer fikirannnya yang busuk, 
> > > nista lagi menjijikkan...
> > > 
> > > Saya ulang menyampaikan apa yang saya tulis dan yang tidak bisa 
> > > dibantahnya:
> > >  
> > > "Selain Suryana, apa ada orang Nasrani yang tukang fitnah disini?
> > >  
> > > Sedangkan peserta yang menganut agama Islam itu rata-rata adalah bajingan 
> > > pendusta dan bangsta tukang fitnah."
> > >   
> > >  
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > dua orang bermental anjing, anjing tua dan anjing sipit sedang saling 
> > > > menjilati pantat dan berhalusinasi sambil ngeloco bareng.  orang2 bego 
> > > > bermental anjing kayak elu tuh bisanya cuman maki2 seperti anjing 
> > > > menggonggong.  
> > > > 
> > > > si anjing masuk ke milis katolik lalu berdusta dihadapan orang katolik 
> > > > sampe disumpahin orang katolik, lalu si anjing datang ke milis ini dan 
> > > > berdusta lagi dihadapan orang islam sehingga kepalanya dikeplakin dan 
> > > > pantatnya ditendang seperti anjing budug.   
> > > > 
> > > > memang bener si anjing sipit tipikal seperti muridnya tuhan jesus yang 
> > > > demen berdusta.  kalo tuhan jesus menyebarkan kebaikan dan kasih 
> > > > sayang, maka si anjing sipit menyebarkan kebencian dan permusuhan.  
> > > > cocok kan seperti muridnya tuhan jesus?!
> > > > 
> > > > kalian berdua emang sama aja, kalian orang2 frustasi yang hidupnya 
> > > > sudah dan sengsara yang perlu dikasihani.  menyedihkan...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ada jg sih orang2 "Kristen" yg bejad, misalnya di milis lain ada 
> > > > > orang Katolik 
> > > > > yg bilang bhw gua akan dpt musibah sebelum Natal krn gua nunjukin 
> > > > > kekonyolan 
> > > > > ajaran Katolik. Lalu ada jg yg maki2 ga keruan kayak kaing2 dr orang 
> > > > > Islam 
> > > > > kejepit buntut.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Tp emang cuma orang Islam aja sbg penganut agama yg benar yg secara 
> > > > > serempak 
> > > > > jadi tukang fitnah, termasuk jg orang Islam ogah dimasukin ke dlm 
> > > > > golongan orang 
> > > > > islam kayak si habe dan ayub_yahya. Kelompok tukang fitnah yg disebut 
> > > > > sbg 
> > > > > gerombolan  Islam plus.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Jusfiq 
> > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 6:43:59 PM
> > > > > Subject: [proletar] Selain Suryana, apa ada orang Nasrani yang tukang 
> > > > > fitnah 
> > > > > disini?
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Selain Suryana, apa ada orang Nasrani yang tukang fitnah disini?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sedangkan peserta yang menganut agama Islam itu rata-rata adalah 
> > > > > bajingan 
> > > > > pendusta dan bangsta tukang fitnah.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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[proletar] Re: Marilah Berdiskusi Agama Dengan Landasan HAM (Suryana & fitnah...)

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Memang itu harus dianggap sangat penting !?
Udah mabuk ya kamu fiq !?
Wong masalah itu sangat dan suaangat buaaanyak; masa tulisan rezameutia yang 
sebenarnya mau MEMBALAS fitnahan kamu; dianggap suaaangat penting ?
Pantas saja kau gak jadi apa2 fiq ! Wong urusan yang sebenarnya sama dengan 
yang kau lakukan dianggap suaaangat penting !!!


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Jadi, buat Suryana yang otaknya busuk kayak comberna itu fitnah yang disebar 
> selama tahunan oloh rezameutia itu nggak begitu penting..
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "gsuryana"  wrote:
> >
> > Yup, karena ini bukan kehidupan di dunia nyata, jadi fitnah memfitnah belum 
> > tentu dilakukan di dunia nyata.
> > Aku yakin disaat Uda datang ke Indonesia dan bertemu dengan Kang Reza hasil 
> > nya tidak akan saling marah memarahi.
> > Setelah sekian lama aku berada di kampung Petar, umumnya setelah ketemuan 
> > di 
> > dunia nyata jauh banget dengan di dunia maya.
> > Memang sih ada beberapa members yang dulu pernah ngancam ini dan itu, dan 
> > dengan berjalannya waktu hal itu hilang. ( dalam hal ini aku masih 
> > kehilangan Asoka ), dan di kampung petar ini sekarang bisa dibilang 
> > penghuni 
> > lama sudah terbiasa cuah cuih, dilain pihak juga akan merasa kehilangan 
> > bila 
> > tidak ada oretannya..silahkan test kang Ambon libur dari Petar selama 
> > sepekan ( juga millis lain tanpa kabar ), aku yakin akan ada tanda tanya di 
> > kepala, apa Kang Ambon sudah bertemu Yesus sampai lupa nge net ?, sama 
> > seperti Uda JQ pakansi sekian lama, maka kampung petar menjadi sepi seperti 
> > kuburan yang berlokasi di kutub dinginn.
> > 
> > sur ( masalah fitnah memfitnah memang rumek, aku mohon maaf karena definisi 
> > ku sedikit beda, maklum tidak baca detail begitu isinya saling maki )
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "utusan.allah" 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Jadi ukuran oang memfitnah itu adalah orang yang memfitnah anda...
> > >
> > > Dungu.
> > >
> > > Sudah tahunan tu orang memfitnah saya yagn dikatakannnya junkie..
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "gsuryana"  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Kang Reza tidak pernah memfitnah ke aku, menghina dan memfitnah
> > > Yesus mah
> > >> gak apa apa, lha Yesus gak perlu aku bela sudah bisa bela diri
> > > sendiri koq.
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: hati2 provokator

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abbas
Jelas tidak, donk.Jauh sekali dari itu

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe... kalo auloh bilang non muslim itu kafir, makhluk yg paling rendah, 
> najis, ga bisa dipercaya dll, auloh itu provokator apa bukan?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Abbas Amin 
> To: proletar 
> Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 12:06:20 PM
> Subject: [proletar] hati2 provokator
> 
>
> Baik dari golongan Islam, maupun golongan Kresten ada provokatornya.
> Kita mengetahui, disetiap agama, ada golongan2nya; terbagi secara Umum :
> 
> 1. Golongan keras - bermusuhan
> 2. Golongan Moderat - toleransi tingi
> 3. Golongan low profile - semua untuk pribadi
> 
> ketiga golongan ini berinteraksi dan bisa saling mempengaruhi; tapi yang 
> menonjol adalah golongan KERAS mempengaruhi golongan lainnya.
> 
> Selain itu, ada pula segolongan yaitu PROVOKATOR; ini bisa dari mana saja; 
> tugasnya adalah menyebar kebencian dimana mana.
> 
> Kita harus hati2 menanggapinya; kalau terpancing; maka kitalah yang GOBLOK 
> dan 
> TOLOL. Sehingga misalnya kita ikut2 maki agama orang lain. Padahal yang maki 
> agama kita belum tentu dari golongan agama yang kita kira lawan kita.
> 
> Bisa juga orang yang beragama jadi provokator; sengaja makin membuat panas 
> situasi, bukan meredam malah menyi5ramnya dengan bensin; akibatnya kesalah 
> pahaman makin melebar; upaya untuk saling toleransi makin sulit.
> 
> Menjawab suatu kritik agama harus hati2; kalau tidak, kitapun akan masuk jadi 
> provokator juga.Kalau tak bisa membuat suasana jadi dingin karena kemampuan 
> kita 
> yang kurang memadai, mendingan nggak usah bicara; itu lebih baik; dari pada 
> cuap2 maki2 agama lain.
> 
> Yang tertawa terbahak bahak; yaaah provokator itu ! Senang mereka.
> Saya melihat sekarang ini DUTA2 Islam yang ada di milis P4roletar kebanyakan 
> ADU 
> maki dengan yang dituduh Kresten; padahal belum TENTU. Setelah keluar maki2; 
> maka yang benar2 Kresten jelas saja akan tersinggung; dan kalau mereka memaki 
> balik, dan ikut ngeroyok duta2 Islam tersebut; sangat wajar.
> 
> Saya pribadi berharap toleransi tetap harus dijaga. Jadi ada rambu2 
> tersendiri 
> dalam hal ini. Sembarang memaki agama lain orang, hanya akan buang2 waktu 
> percuma saja; hasil tak ada. Bahkan makin lama makin sakit hati saja yang 
> didapat. Padahal DAKWAH itu kan tujuannya menuntun kejalan yang baik, 
> bukannya 
> menuntun kearah permusuhan ! kalau tak mampu begitu, sudaqhi saja dakwah yang 
> sia2 tersebut; kecuali memang masuk ke MILIS hanya untuk menyalurkan BAKAT 
> memaki maki umat beriman.
> 
> Boleh anda protes dengan tulisan saya ini; terserah. Karena anda semua saya 
> yakin punya logika yang dipegang.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
>  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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Re: [proletar] Re: The eunuch for jihad

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe nabi itu sendiri bilang jangan ngeharamin apa yg dihalalin auloh 
sambil ngijinin ngelacur. Artinya ngelacur itu emang dihalalin auloh.

Apa nabi ga pernah ke pelacur? Hrsnya sih nabi suka buat ngasih contoh ke orang 
Islam spy melakukan apa yg dihalalin auloh.

Tapi berhubung nabi, maka ma fi fulus alias gratis ga bayar.






From: rezameutia 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 10:01:31 AM
Subject: [proletar] Re: The eunuch for jihad

   
si anjing sipit mulai ngayal lagi, dimulai dengan kata-kata "gua rasa" sambil 
ngayal nabi ngembat cabo.

nabi nggak pernah nyabo, apalagi sampe piara cabo yang namanya sama dengan nama 
ibunya seperti tuhan jesus.  jangan disamain lah nabi yang gagah perkasa dengan 
tuhan jesus si pecundang tolol.

gw tanya kedua kalinya, njing.  'kenapa tuhan jesus memilih cabo yang punya 
nama 
sama dengan nama ibunya sendiri?' 


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe... pejihad Islam ini demi auloh mau bikin diri sendiri jadi impoten.
> 
> Gua rasa ini pasti krn ga ada PSK, maka si pejihad ini mau ngebiri sendiri, 
>kalo 
>
> ada, kan tinggal ngembat PSK spt ajaran nabi.
> 
> Maklum, orang Islam itu emang gila sex, dimulai dr nabi Islam sampe ke orang 
> Islam di jaman ini.
> 
> Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 139: 
> Narrated Abdullah: 
> >We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet and   
> >we 
>
> >had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet ). "Shall   we 
> >castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet forbade us to do that and   
>thenceforth 
>
> >he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her  even a 
>garment, 
>
> >and then he recited:  "O you who believe! Do not make   unlawful the 
> >good 

> >things which Allah has made lawful for you." Islam itu emang agama yg benar 
>unt 
>
> >tukang bunuh dan sex maniak, masalahnya itu cuma ada satu, kadang ceweknya 
> >aja 
>
> >ga tersedia, jadi kepaksa deh jadi kasim, hehehe..
> 
> Saran gua buat orang2 Islam plus habe di milis ini, kalo udah ga ketahan, 
> drpd 

> ngeloco di milis ini, mendingan jadi kasim aja deh.
> 
> 
> The eunuch for jihad
> Soft jihadist
> 
> For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs  who 
> have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made  
> themselves 

> eunuchs for the sake of murdering infidels.
> "Al-Qaeda leader put jihad before a sex life," by Holly Watt in the 
> Telegraph, 

> April 26 (thanks to all who sent this in):
> One of the most senior members of al-Qaeda held at  Guantánamo took 
> injections 
>
> “to promote impotence� to avoid being  “distracted� by women, 
> according 
>to 
>
> evidence uncovered by investigators. 
> 
> >Abd al-Rahim Hussein Muhammad Abdah al-Nashiri, a Saudi Arabian, was  said 
> >to 

> >have reported directly to Osama bin Laden. His interrogators  reported: 
> >“Detainee is so dedicated to jihad that he reportedly received  injections 
>to 
>
> >promote impotence and recommended the injections to  others.�
> >He received the injections “so more time could be spent on jihad â€" 
> >rather 
>than 
>
> >being distracted by women�.
> >According to the notes, al-Nashiri was allegedly “the senior  operative� 
>in the 
>
> >attack on USS Cole, an American destroyer, in October  2000. Seventeen US 
> >sailors were killed in the suicide attack in a Yemeni  port, while dozens 
> >were 
>
> >injuredPosted by Robert on April 27, 2011 10:27 AM  | 26 Comments 
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


 

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Re: [proletar] Re: Orang Islam lebih rendah dr anjing

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe... orang Islam ga bisa bantah bhw orang Islam itu lebih rendah dr anjing 
krn anjing ga ngegigit tangan yg ngasih makan si anjing, sementara orang Islam 
itu selalu ngegigit tangan orang yg ngasih makan si orang Islam.

Gua rasa, satu2nya hal di mana orang Islam selevel dgn anjing adalah dlm soal 
birahi. Anjing langsung pengen ngentot kalo lagi birahi dan ngeliat ada anjing 
betina. Orang Islam jg sama, langsung hrs ngentot kalo lagi birahi sesuai dgn 
sunnah nabi.

Apa beda nabi dgn anjing? Anjing itu lebih bermoral dr nabi, hehehe

Hadis Muslim
Chapter 2: HE WHO SEES A WOMAN, AND HIS HEART IS AFFECTED, SHOULD COME TO HIS 
WIFE, AND SHOULD HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH HER 




 Book 008, Number 3240:   
Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) saw a  woman, and 
so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather  and had sexual 
intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and  told them: The woman 
advances and retires in the shape of a devil, so  when one of you sees a woman, 
he should come to his wife, for that will  repel what he feels in his heart.

 Book 008, Number 3241:   
Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him)  saw a 
woman; and the rest of the hadith was narrated but (with this  exception) that 
he said he came to his wife Zainab, who was tanning a  (piece of) leather, and 
he made no mention of:" She retires in the shape  of satan."

 Book 008, Number 3242:   
Jabir heard Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) say: When a woman  
fascinates any one of you and she captivates his heart, he should go to  his 
wife and have an intercourse with her, for it would repel what he  feels.
>
>



From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 10:01:06 AM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Orang Islam lebih rendah dr anjing

   
Si @dapurmu disamping menghayal juga bohong, kek Paulus
Perhatikan apa kata Tuhannya

Mat 7:6  "Jangan kamu memberikan barang yang kudus kepada anjing dan
jangan kamu melemparkan mutiaramu kepada babi, supaya jangan
diinjak-injaknya dengan kakinya, lalu ia berbalik mengoyak kamu."

@dapurmu yg KATEBE anjing maupun babi, mana merasa.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> kalo umat kristen taat kayak elu sama dengan anjing ya?!
>
> persamaannya elu dan anjing, elu dan anjing ngencuk anak sendiri, elu
dan anjing ngencuk 'every bitch'.
>
> perbedaannya elu dengan anjing, anjing nggak piara cabo yang namanya
sama dengan nama ibunya sendiri, seperti kelakuan elu dan tuhan jesus.
>
> jadi umat kristen yang taat kayak elu elu lebih rendah dari anjing...
>
> hehehe...
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Hehehe... di sini kita lihat gimana orang Islam ngegigit tangan yg
ngasih makan
> > mereka.
> >
> > Padahal anjing aja ga gitu, anjing gua misalnya, biar gua masukin
tangan  gua ke
> > mulut anjing gua, si anjing itu ga ngegigit tangan gua.
> >
> >
> > Emang orang Islam itu lebih rendah dr anjing atau babi.
> >
> >
> > "We urge all Muslims to stay away from the royal wedding...because
of the
> > likelihood of an attack by the Mujahideen"
> > Come on in and make yourselves at home, fellows. What could possibly
go wrong?
> > Notice the grievance-mongering. Assad Ullah is situating any 
potential attack
> > within the Islamic theological framework of defensive  jihad.
> > "Muslim group claims royal wedding is legitimate terror target," by
Victoria
> > Ward in the Telegraph, April 27 (thanks to all who sent this in):
> > The royal wedding is a “legitimate target” for a
terrorist  attack because of
> > Britain’s foreign policy and the invasion of Iraq and 
Afghanistan, a radical
> > Islamic group has claimed.
> >
> > >Muslims Against Crusades, which had its application to protest on 
Friday turned
> > >down by police, yesterday urged Muslims to stay away from  central
London when
> > >Prince William marries Kate Middleton and to avoid  all means of
public
> > >transport due to the heightened risk of an attack.
> > >Assad Ullah, leader of the extremist campaign group, insisted that
it  had no
> > >“inside knowledge” but was simply repeating security
fears that  have already
> > >been widely reported.
> > >“There is a legitimate Islam opinion that those who have
been attacked have the
> > >right to retaliate,” he said.
> > "To those against whom war is made, permission is given to fight), 
because they
> > are wronged; and verily, Allah is most powerful for their  aid." --
Qur'an 22:39
> >
> > “British foreign policy is causing this kind of feeling and 
increasing the
> > instability in this country. We do not advocate violence  but can
see how they
> > made themselves a legitimate target for others.”
> >
> > >Announcing that the group had abandoned its plans to protest
against  the
> > >wedding, group spokesman Abu Abba

Re: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe orang dr jaman dulu jg bisa liat tuh jalur matahari dan bulan, 
emangnya mereka buta?

Emang enak tuh nyaplokin kibulan si Maurice Bucaille.






From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 9:56:38 AM
Subject: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...

   
Ibrahim (14):33
Dan Dia telah menundukkan (pula) bagimu matahari dan bulan yang terus
menerus beredar (dalam orbitnya); dan telah menundukkan bagimu malam dan
siang.

And He hath made subject to you the sun and the moon, both diligently
pursuing their courses; and the night and the day hath he (also) made
subject to you.

Ayat di atas saat disampaikan kepada Rasulullah saw ga ada tanya menanya
apa-bagaimananya. Demikian juga dari Muhammad saw ke para sahabat maupun
umatnya.  Bahwa matahari maupun bulan beredar pada lajur tertentu, saat
itu mustilah sulit dicerna.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Wong"  wrote:
>
> Bagaimanakah seharusnya guru agama mengajar? Kalao sampeyan menjadi
guru ngaji bagaimanakah sampeyan akan mengajari para santri tentang
Israk Miraj dimana di kisahkan bahwa nabi Muhammad melakukan perjalanan
dalam sekejap naik Buroq dari Masjidil Haram ke Masijidil Aqso terus ke
Sidratul muntaha bertemu dengan Alloh untuk menerima perintah solat.
Apakah ini yang sampeyan maksud sebagai dongengan tolol. Karena
sesungguhnya cerita hanyalah sebuah cerita fiksi yang jelas tidak masuk
akal
>
> Atau sampeyan akan membuat rasionalisasi, misalnya dengan mengatakan,
Buroq itu memang hanya kiasan, Buroq itu bermakna mlebu sak jroning rok
atao masuk kedalam baju wanita, yang berarti nabi Muhammad sesungguhnya
tidak kemana mana tetapi berdiam di rumah istrinya, tapi nabi Muhammad
melamun dan menghayal bisa terbang kemana mana. Namanya juga menghayal
maka tidak heran dalam sekejap dia bisa berada di Masjidil Harom
kemudian sekejap berikutnya ke Masjidil Aqso dan seterusnya, wong
namanya juga melamun.
>
> Jika sampeyan menjadi guru ngaji, bagaimanakah sampeyan akan
menjelaskan kepada para santri tentang eksodus bangsa Israel dari Mesir
menuju tanah perjanjian yang dipimpin oleh Musa. Dimana dikisahkan dalam
pelarian itu Musa memukulkan tongkatnya ke laut kemudain laut itu
terbelah menjadi seperti daratan sehingga bangsa Israel bisa menyeberang
dengan selamat. Inikah kisah dongengan tolol yang sampeyan maksudkan?
>
> Apakah sampeyan akan mengatakan kepada para santri bahwa kisah ini
hanyalah fiksi, sebab mana mungkin ada tongkat yang ajaib seperti
tongkat Musa.  Keajaiban tongkat Musa hanya bisa ditandingi oleh senjata
yang fiktif juga milik prabu Kresna yaitu sebuah senjata Cakra, 
keajaiban Cakra sungguh ngedab ngedabi, saking hebatnya senjata ini bila
di arahkan ke gunung , gunung gugur, segara asat, bantolo mbledag.
Karena cakra hanya senjata fiktif, pastilah tongkat musa juga fiktif.
Dongengan ini akan menjadi dongengan tolol apabila dongeng fiktif
dianggap cerita yang betul betul terjadi.
>
> Jika seorang santri mengejar pertanggung jawaban lebih lanjut mengapa
ada alat transportasi yang begitu ajaib dan tidak masuk akal seprti
Buroq, jawabnya ITU KEHENDAK ALLOH, demikian juga dengan tongkat musa
yang ajaib dan tidak masuk akal jawabnya juga ITU SUDAH KEHENDAK ALLOH,
dengan demikian ALLOH menjadi sesuatu yang tidak masuk akal, yang
tahayul
>
> Sama tahayulnya dengan pendapat yang mengatakan bahwa wabah ulat di
jawatimur adalah azab Alloh, karena manusia sudah ingkar terhadap hulum2
Alloh. Sama tahayulnya dengan anggapan yang mengatakan bahwa tsunami di
Aceh yang membunuh jutaan orang adalah Azab Alloh, sama tahayulnya
dengan pendapat yang mengatakan bahwa gempa di Pengandaran, cilapa joga
yang menelan korban ratusan orang juga azab Alloh, karena penduduk
pantai selatan masih membuat sesaji sedekah laut untul nyi Roro kidul.
Dengan demikian Alloh menjadi sesuatu yang sangat kejam.
>
> Diatas hanyalah sebagian kecil dari kisah kisah dalam pelajaran agama,
tapi bagaimanapun juga biarlah sampeyan sendiri yang menyampaiakn kisah
kisah itu agar supaya kisah itu tidak menjadi DONGENGAN TOLOL seperti
yang sampeyan maksud
>
> Rahayu
>
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg" ajegilelu@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ini sih omongan orang-orang yang kesel sama
> > guru agamanya (yang ngajarin agama dengan
> > dongengan tolol) tapi lalu meyakini agama itu
> > setolol dongengan gurunya.
> > Ini nggak beda dengan gejala anak sekolah
> > yang alergi pelajaran "susah" hanya lantaran
> > gurunya nggak becus ngajar.
> >
> > Sekarang, coba kasih wawan kesempatan untuk
> > jelasin analisanya soal hubungan antara agama,
> > takhyul, dan takut mati, di alinea terakhir itu.
> >
> > Lalu, kita dengarkan juga pendapatnya tentang
> > orang-orang yang bilang pelaku bom bunuhdiri itu
> > tindakannya dipengaruhi agama.
> >
> > Atau cuma mau asyik posting obrolan sendiri terus?
> >
> > :)
> >
> > --- "Wong"  wrote:
> >
> > > Meskipun agama adalah setahayul tahayulnya tahyul, dan membuat
> > > pemeluknya kehilangan 

Re: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Kalo pendeta nilep duit perpuluhan, maka itu namanya maling.

Kalo orang Islam nilep duit zakat 100%, itu halal 100%, krn auloh udah bilang 
duit zakat itu antara lain buat yg ngurus duit zakat.

Yg nilep duit zakat itu bisa ngaku sbg orang soleh atau soleha dan ga akan ada 
yg bantah krn dihalalin auloh, hehehehe..






From: rezameutia 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 9:45:10 AM
Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

   

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Pasti tuh gereja2 ga bayar uang keamanan.
>

pasti lah nggak bayar, soale tuh gereja nggak ada duitnya.

duit perpuluhan umatnya ditilep ama pendetanya. 
pendeta kristen tuh semuanya maling duit perpuluhan umatnya.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: widura 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 5:32:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> 
> 
> Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya toleran...tapi 
> kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo itu 
> bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja berbuat seperti itu...
> -Original Message-
> From: "sunny" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> 
> http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-jombang
> 
> 
> FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang 
> Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51 
> Muji Lestari 
> Hits: 832 
> 
> 
> KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa Timur mengaku 
> tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di gereja, pada Minggu 
> kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang anggota milisi sipil FPI 
> dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan, dari Persekutuan Gereja dan 
> Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir 
> meski 
>
> gereja-gereja dijaga aparat kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini FPI 
> lebih banyak dikenal dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
> 
> "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir, cemas 
>sehingga 
>
> ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut ibadah. Takut dengan adanya 
> kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar Jombang. Kalau Jombang saja 
> mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari luar Jombang yang seakan -akan 
> sehingga 

> acara mereka sudah membuat umat ini bertanya -tanya apakan kita ini aman 
> nggak 

> dalam ibadah ini."
> 
> Kemarin, ribuan orang mengenakan atribut kelompok milisi sipil FPI membanjiri 
> Jombang Jawa Timur. Mereka datang dari berbagai daerah untuk menghadiri 
> pengajian akbar FPI.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


 

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Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe... omongan sendiri aja diplintir2, tipikal orang Islam sih.

Yg paling doyan selangkangan itu adalah orang Islam, makanya ga heran auloh jg 
sampe nyediain cewek perawan abadi dan pemuda cantik khusus unt selangkangan 
orang Islam di sorga. Sampe spesial disebut2 jg soal kontol ngaceng abadi milik 
orang Islam.


Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into 
paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris(9) and seventy of 
his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have 
libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' "(10)
(Sunan Ibn Maja)





From: ajeg 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 8:55:49 AM
Subject: Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

   

Yang ngomongin slangkangan lu siapa kok 
bisa-bisanya kege-eran ada yang ngomongin 
slangkangan lu. 

Gawat, ini sih bukan mlintir omongan orang 
tapi memang asli tolol, ngebongkar kedok 
sendiri bahwa dia juga napsu ama slangkangan 
sendiri. 

ck..ck... jadi bener nih elu atlet pasar malem? 

--- item abu  wrote:

> Hehehe... yg gua omongin itu selangkangan orang Islam koq, bukan 
> selangkangan gua.
> 
> Jadi, apa hubungan selangkangan gua dgn selangkangan orang Islam 
> sampe lu bisa ngomongin selangkangan gua?
> 
> Kalo ngeliat orang Islam yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah dan nyopot 
> celana si orang Ahmadiyah yg udah jadi mayat itu, gua jadi curiga 
> bhw si orang Ahmadiyah itu diembat jg oleh orang Islam.
> 
> Jadi bisa aja nih orang2 Islam di milis ini jg punya minat yg sama 
> dgn orang2 yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah tsb.
> 
> 
> 
> From: ajeg 
> 
> > Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
> > Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 
> > 
> > tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
> > Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 
> >
> > --- "widura"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 
> > > gini ?...
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: item abu 
> > > 
> > > > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang 
> > > > merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > > >
> > > > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang 
> > > > Islam. 
> > > > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu 
> > > > merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn 
> > > > kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam yg soleh dan 
> > > > bertaqwa.
> > > >
> > > > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > > > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat 
> > > > lainnya.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
>>http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
>s
> >
>
>
>


 

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[proletar] Re: 'Minority women' (Dipo yang sedeng & berita yang disampaikan item abu

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi menyilaukan yang disampaikan "item 
abu" yaitu sejumlah berita tentang kelakuan busuk atau biadab orang Islam, Dipo 
yang memang sudah nggak waras itu bukannnya merasa prihatin membaca berita yang 
menjijikkan atau mengerikan itu tapi malah pamer isi otaknya yang sudah rusak 
dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan dengan menyebar fitnah.

Islam itu, saya bilang dan saya ulang, merusak otak rata-rata pengikutnya..
 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
>
> 
> Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
> Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 
> 
> tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
> Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 
> 
> --- "widura"  wrote:
> 
> > Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 
> > gini ?...
> > -Original Message-
> > From: item abu 
> > 
> > > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang 
> > > merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > > 
> > > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam. 
> > > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu 
> > > merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn 
> > > kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam yg soleh dan 
> > > bertaqwa.
> > >
> > > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat 
> > > lainnya.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
> > >
> > > 
> > > 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02
> > > IANS, Apr 26, 2011, 02.00pm IST
> > > Tags:
> > >   * Taslima Nasreen
> > > DHAKA:  A judicial commission has concluded that over 200 Hindu 
> > > women were raped following the 2001 parliamentary election, 
> > > forcing many terrorized families to flee the country.
> > > The acts were allegedly committed  by cadres of the Bangladesh 
> > > Nationalist Party (BNP) and its ally  Jamaat-e-Islami who won the 
> > > 2001 polls, the report said, citing the  involvement of many top 
> > > leaders and lawmakers of the alliance that is  now in the 
> > > opposition.
> > > While the commission referred to the victims as "minority women", 
> > > media reports of that period had identified them as Hindus.
> > > With Begum Khaleda Zia as the prime minister, the BNP-Jamaat 
> > > alliance ruled Bangladesh during 2001-06.
> > > The violence went on for 15 months and "the barbarous act was 
> > > intended  to force them to leave the country. They were, in the 
> > > eyes of the  culprits, enemies as they voted for the Awami 
> > > League", The Daily Star  said on Tuesday, quoting commission 
> > > sources.
> > > The commission  submitted the report to home minister Sahara 
> > > Khatun. It lists 3,625  incidents of major crimes, including 
> > > killing, rape, arson and looting.
> > > Media reports at that time had detailed the plight of hundreds of 
> > > Hindu families crossing over to India, forcing the Indian 
> > > government to  express concern.
> > > Bangladeshi poet Daud Hyder, who visited the camps in India where 
> > > these families were lodged and wrote about it, was later charged 
> > > with sedition and imprisoned.
> > > The wave of violence was the subject of "Lajja" by novelist 
> > > Taslima Nasreen, who angered the Islamists at home and was had to 
> > > quit Bangladesh. She still remains exiled.
> > > Many victims and their family members interviewed by the probe 
> > > panel  narrated harrowing experiences, but said they did not 
> > > lodge police  reports or undergo forensic tests for fear of 
> > > inviting social stigma,  the report says.
> > > Many victims and their family members across the country 
> > > contacted the commission when it was conducting the probe.
> > > According to the panel, it would be "tough or, to some extent,  
> > > impossible" to continue the probe into the rape allegations "as 
> > > the  victims themselves are unwilling to do the legal battle".
> > > The  probe panel found that most of the gang rapes occurred in 
> > > the country's southern part - Bhola, Barisal, Agoiljhara and 
> > > Gaurnadi.
> > > The  accused were acquitted for lack of witnesses. In some cases, 
> > > police gave final reports while the names of the accused were 
> > > dropped in over 500  cases out of the 3,625 major incidents.
> > > With the passing of a  decade, some of the accused utilised "good > > 
> > > connection with ruling Awami  League men", which forced the 
> > > police to drop many cases, the media  report said.
> > > The panel has named several BNP and Jamaat leaders for their 
> > > involvement in the post-poll violence.
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: Itemnya pantat Jusfiq

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia

karena si anjing sipit piara cabo seperti tuhan jesus, seperti layaknya tipikal 
kristen yang taat, makanya si anjing sipit tau tempat nyabo dimana-mana.

hehehe...



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe... gua jg tau koq keberadaan PSK di tanah suci lu itu.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ndeboost 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 6:52:51 PM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Itemnya pantat Jusfiq
> 
>
> Puih, hafal dia yg londe di Nevada exempted..
> Barusan dibaptis 4nus ya?
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >
> > Hehehe gerombolan orang Islam plus lagi ngeloco rame2.
> >
> > Kayaknya tebakan gua betul nih, si habe udah ditinggal bininya, jadi
> kepaksa dia
> > ngeloco spy bisa puas. Maklum PSK di Amrik itu kan mahal dan jg ilegal
> kecuali
> > di Nevada.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: ajeg ajegilelu@
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 3:21:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Itemnya pantat Jusfiq
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Habe" proletar4@ wrote:
> >
> > > Jelas item,
> > > wong dia keseringan menduduki si item abu
> >
> > Kalo gitu gak mungkin pantat si uplik cuma item,
> > pasti sebelah item sebelah abu-abu.
> >
> > >
> > > goyang teru pik
> >
> > se.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
>  
> 
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>






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[proletar] Re: fall state index?

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "liver_duke"  wrote:
>
> 
> mirip lennon minjem kalimat marx, semakin goblok sekaligus miskin
> penduduknya maka makin subur dan taat pula agamanya kayak nyandu.
> bisa pinter dikit, pecah belahlah. baru mo kaya, lemparin teror.
> pengen nyanyi bentar ato nyante nikmatin bola, langsung gorok.
> 


agama yang kayak nyandu...


Jake: : "Me and the Lord, we have an understanding"
Elwood : "We are on a mission from God"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1KZKZs-2YM&feature=related


> eh, ngapain gw kejerumus bahas gini yag
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mq4UT4VnbE
>






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Re: [proletar] Re: fall state index?

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik David Silalahi
orang tidak punya otak seperti anda dan juga penjilat tawangalin dilarang
berdiskusi dengan saya...


2011/4/28 ndeboost 

>
>
> Menurut hk ekonomi yg ndeboost pernah dikasih tahu, mungkin ga bener,
> setelah perut lalu rumah lalu pakaian. Hiburan ntah nomer berapa. Kalau
> ajaran Yesus maupun Paulus, bahkan nikah alias kawin ga masuk kebutuhan
> namun 4nus iya.
> Kalau petinggi Komunis bahkan ga ada yang namanya agama, jadi ga dipakai
> sebagai kendaraan utk keperluan mereka.
>
> "...dalam hal ini semua orang suka agama, tetapi agama bukanlah jalan
> keluar karena efeknya yang bersifat membodohi, memerintah dan
> menguasai..."
>
> Yg bersifat mbodohi keknya agamanya Paulus-Vatikan. Galileo dia bantah
> hingga dikucilkan, mentang-mentang berkuasa namun salah arahan, yg
> mungkin dari Paulus yg pendusta.
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, David Silalahi 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > agama diminati oleh para politikus karena agama cara paling murah
> untuk
> > memerintah orang, menguasai banyak penduduk, menerapkan kebijaksanaan
> > kelompok hanya dengan cuap-cuap manis.
> >
> > tetapi di negara maju yang sudah dianggap sustain alias sudah tidak
> > terkategori "negara gagal" alias juga sudah terkategori negara mampu
> > bertahan seperti belanda, kebijakan sudah tidak melalui kendaraan
> agama
> > lagi. agama adalah primitif ketika rakyat sudah mengerti bahwa
> kebutuhan
> > perut tidak membutuhkan agama.
> >
> > agama hanyalah untuk hiburan, tetapi perut adalah hal penting dan
> perlu
> > diakomodasi dengan tepat, bukan dengan agama. untuk hiburan bisa
> dengan cara
> > lain, hiburan ini pun perlu diatur oleh pihak penguasa juga agar
> hiburan ini
> > tidak menimbulkan keributan pro-kontra, sebab bila timbul pro-kontra
> dan tak
> > terurus maka negara bisa masuk kategori negara gagal.
> >
> > sejauh ini belanda masih bisa mengatur perut warganya termasuk juga
> mengatur
> > hiburan untuk warganya.
> >
> > fail state atau negara gagal emang gak ada definisi tepatnya, tapi
> sejauh
> > yang saya tahu adalah berkisar antara dua hal penting tersebut di atas
> yaitu
> > urusan perut dan urusan hiburan. hiburan ini juga berpengaruh dari
> urusan
> > keamanan dan kenyamanan. bagaimana mungkin merasa mendapatkan hiburan
> kalau
> > tidak ada keamanan dan kenyamanan?
> >
> > negara indonesia sudah terkategori negara gagal karena banyak urusan
> > keamanan dan kenyamanan tidak terkuasai dengan baik oleh para
> penguasa.
> > dampaknya, satu-satunya hiburan yang murah dan juga diminati para
> politikus
> > adalah hiburan melalui agama.
> >
> > dalam hal ini semua orang suka agama, tetapi agama bukanlah jalan
> keluar
> > karena efeknya yang bersifat membodohi, memerintah dan menguasai.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/4/28 liver_duke endyonisius@...
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > contoh, kenapa perlu digalakkan ada program manajemen mitigasi
> > > semacam penanggulangan kebakaran termasuk pengadaan mobil pemadam
> > > kebakaran yg gak murah itu? sehingga menjadi gak populer melalui
> > > pendekatan manajemen pencegahan termasuk pengelolaan mitigasi.
> > >
> > > fenomena akutnya : bangsa ini dididik reaktif, not preventive.
> > > kebakaran, tsunami, kemiskinan, teror dan bom, korupsi, agama,
> > > adalah proyek yg menjanjikan. klo gak ada kebakaran, gimana bisa
> > > beli mobil pemadamnya? lantas bubarin aja kantor urusan kebakaran.
> > > maka agar kantor dan pejabatnya bekerja, perlu ada kebakaran bahkan
> > > bikinlah kebakaran (buat gusur misalnya) lantas usulan beli mobil.
> > > kemudian bikin laporan evaluasi bahwa taon ini sukses melaksanakan
> > > pemadaman, yg semakin tinggi frekwensinya berarti semakin tinggi
> > > pula usulan anggaran mendatangnya. itulah kinerja keberhasilan.
> > >
> > > mirip lennon minjem kalimat marx, semakin goblok sekaligus miskin
> > > penduduknya maka makin subur dan taat pula agamanya kayak nyandu.
> > > bisa pinter dikit, pecah belahlah. baru mo kaya, lemparin teror.
> > > pengen nyanyi bentar ato nyante nikmatin bola, langsung gorok.
> > >
> > > eh, ngapain gw kejerumus bahas gini yag
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mq4UT4VnbE
> > >
> >
>


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[proletar] Re: fall state index?

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Menurut hk ekonomi yg ndeboost pernah dikasih tahu, mungkin ga bener,
setelah perut lalu rumah lalu pakaian. Hiburan ntah nomer berapa. Kalau
ajaran Yesus maupun Paulus, bahkan nikah alias kawin ga masuk kebutuhan
namun 4nus iya.
Kalau petinggi Komunis bahkan ga ada yang namanya agama, jadi ga dipakai
sebagai kendaraan utk keperluan mereka.

"...dalam hal ini semua orang suka agama, tetapi agama bukanlah jalan 
keluar karena efeknya yang bersifat membodohi, memerintah dan 
menguasai..."

Yg bersifat mbodohi keknya agamanya Paulus-Vatikan. Galileo dia bantah
hingga dikucilkan, mentang-mentang berkuasa namun salah arahan, yg
mungkin dari Paulus yg pendusta.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, David Silalahi 
wrote:
>
> agama diminati oleh para politikus karena agama cara paling murah
untuk
> memerintah orang, menguasai banyak penduduk, menerapkan kebijaksanaan
> kelompok hanya dengan cuap-cuap manis.
>
> tetapi di negara maju yang sudah dianggap sustain alias sudah tidak
> terkategori "negara gagal" alias juga sudah terkategori negara mampu
> bertahan seperti belanda, kebijakan sudah tidak melalui kendaraan
agama
> lagi. agama adalah primitif ketika rakyat sudah mengerti bahwa
kebutuhan
> perut tidak membutuhkan agama.
>
> agama hanyalah untuk hiburan, tetapi perut adalah hal penting dan
perlu
> diakomodasi dengan tepat, bukan dengan agama. untuk hiburan bisa
dengan cara
> lain, hiburan ini pun perlu diatur oleh pihak penguasa juga agar
hiburan ini
> tidak menimbulkan keributan pro-kontra, sebab bila timbul pro-kontra
dan tak
> terurus maka negara bisa masuk kategori negara gagal.
>
> sejauh ini belanda masih bisa mengatur perut warganya termasuk juga
mengatur
> hiburan untuk warganya.
>
> fail state atau negara gagal emang gak ada definisi tepatnya, tapi
sejauh
> yang saya tahu adalah berkisar antara dua hal penting tersebut di atas
yaitu
> urusan perut dan urusan hiburan. hiburan ini juga berpengaruh dari
urusan
> keamanan dan kenyamanan. bagaimana mungkin merasa mendapatkan hiburan
kalau
> tidak ada keamanan dan kenyamanan?
>
> negara indonesia sudah terkategori negara gagal karena banyak urusan
> keamanan dan kenyamanan tidak terkuasai dengan baik oleh para
penguasa.
> dampaknya, satu-satunya hiburan yang murah dan juga diminati para
politikus
> adalah hiburan melalui agama.
>
> dalam hal ini semua orang suka agama, tetapi agama bukanlah jalan
keluar
> karena efeknya yang bersifat membodohi, memerintah dan menguasai.
>
>
>
> 2011/4/28 liver_duke endyonisius@...
>
> >
> >
> > contoh, kenapa perlu digalakkan ada program manajemen mitigasi
> > semacam penanggulangan kebakaran termasuk pengadaan mobil pemadam
> > kebakaran yg gak murah itu? sehingga menjadi gak populer melalui
> > pendekatan manajemen pencegahan termasuk pengelolaan mitigasi.
> >
> > fenomena akutnya : bangsa ini dididik reaktif, not preventive.
> > kebakaran, tsunami, kemiskinan, teror dan bom, korupsi, agama,
> > adalah proyek yg menjanjikan. klo gak ada kebakaran, gimana bisa
> > beli mobil pemadamnya? lantas bubarin aja kantor urusan kebakaran.
> > maka agar kantor dan pejabatnya bekerja, perlu ada kebakaran bahkan
> > bikinlah kebakaran (buat gusur misalnya) lantas usulan beli mobil.
> > kemudian bikin laporan evaluasi bahwa taon ini sukses melaksanakan
> > pemadaman, yg semakin tinggi frekwensinya berarti semakin tinggi
> > pula usulan anggaran mendatangnya. itulah kinerja keberhasilan.
> >
> > mirip lennon minjem kalimat marx, semakin goblok sekaligus miskin
> > penduduknya maka makin subur dan taat pula agamanya kayak nyandu.
> > bisa pinter dikit, pecah belahlah. baru mo kaya, lemparin teror.
> > pengen nyanyi bentar ato nyante nikmatin bola, langsung gorok.
> >
> > eh, ngapain gw kejerumus bahas gini yag
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mq4UT4VnbE
> >
>
>
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>






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[proletar] Re: hati2 provokator

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Ada 274 kata "kafir" di Bibel LAI76 (Terj. Lama).
Kafir artinya apa ya kok sampai segitu banyak? Lalu dibuang di Bibel
LAI06 (Terj Baru) dan nT ga menyukai kata tsb?
Coba nT jelaskan.

Ada lagi yg mirip dan nDeboost pengin tahu. Ada nabi, nabiah dan rasul
di Bibel. Menurut batasan kamu pada, apa ya maksud masing-masing? Berapa
jumlah Nabi mupun Rasul menurut iman kamu? Kalau Luth menurut Islam
adalah nabi, katamu bukan. Nah kan beda?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe cuma bisa OOT sambil nunjukin tebal mukanya.
>
> Kalo auloh bilang non muslim itu kafir, makhluk yg paling rendah,
najis, ga bisa
> dipercaya dll, auloh itu provokator apa bukan?
>
> Ga bakalan deh ada orang Islam yg berani jawab, biarpun mereka selalu
ngoceh
> soal adanya provokator. Maklum, dr mulut anjing itu ga akan timbuh
gading.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: ndeboost rambitesemak@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 7:24:31 PM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: hati2 provokator
>
>
> Ada >200 kata "kafir" di LAI76 (Terj. Lama) namun
> @dapurmu dikibuli seolah-olah ga ada "kafir" di
> LAI06 (Ter. Baru). Celakanya dia ga ngeh kalau dia
> ini termasuk, KATEBE, kafir. Juga bangsanya babi
> dan anjing.
>
> PS
> Kalau Yesus bilangnya babi, ya babi. Bukan babi hutan
> atau silangan babi vs babi hutan. Kalau bilangnya anjing,
> wallahu'alam. Bulldog, Chihua-hua atau yang mana.
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Hehehe... kalo auloh bilang non muslim itu kafir, makhluk yg paling
> rendah,
> > najis, ga bisa dipercaya dll, auloh itu provokator apa bukan?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Abbas Amin abas_amin08@
> > To: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 12:06:20 PM
> > Subject: [proletar] hati2 provokator
> >
> >
> > Baik dari golongan Islam, maupun golongan Kresten ada provokatornya.
> > Kita mengetahui, disetiap agama, ada golongan2nya; terbagi secara
Umum
> :
> >
> > 1. Golongan keras - bermusuhan
> > 2. Golongan Moderat - toleransi tingi
> > 3. Golongan low profile - semua untuk pribadi
> >
> > ketiga golongan ini berinteraksi dan bisa saling mempengaruhi; tapi
> yang
> > menonjol adalah golongan KERAS mempengaruhi golongan lainnya.
> >
> > Selain itu, ada pula segolongan yaitu PROVOKATOR; ini bisa dari mana
> saja;
> > tugasnya adalah menyebar kebencian dimana mana.
> >
> > Kita harus hati2 menanggapinya; kalau terpancing; maka kitalah yang
> GOBLOK dan
> > TOLOL. Sehingga misalnya kita ikut2 maki agama orang lain. Padahal
> yang maki
> > agama kita belum tentu dari golongan agama yang kita kira lawan
kita.
> >
> > Bisa juga orang yang beragama jadi provokator; sengaja makin membuat
> panas
> > situasi, bukan meredam malah menyi5ramnya dengan bensin; akibatnya
> kesalah
> > pahaman makin melebar; upaya untuk saling toleransi makin sulit.
> >
> > Menjawab suatu kritik agama harus hati2; kalau tidak, kitapun akan
> masuk jadi
> > provokator juga.Kalau tak bisa membuat suasana jadi dingin karena
> kemampuan kita
> > yang kurang memadai, mendingan nggak usah bicara; itu lebih baik;
dari
> pada
> > cuap2 maki2 agama lain.
> >
> > Yang tertawa terbahak bahak; yaaah provokator itu ! Senang mereka.
> > Saya melihat sekarang ini DUTA2 Islam yang ada di milis P4roletar
> kebanyakan ADU
> > maki dengan yang dituduh Kresten; padahal belum TENTU. Setelah
keluar
> maki2;
> > maka yang benar2 Kresten jelas saja akan tersinggung; dan kalau
mereka
> memaki
> > balik, dan ikut ngeroyok duta2 Islam tersebut; sangat wajar.
> >
> > Saya pribadi berharap toleransi tetap harus dijaga. Jadi ada rambu2
> tersendiri
> > dalam hal ini. Sembarang memaki agama lain orang, hanya akan buang2
> waktu
> > percuma saja; hasil tak ada. Bahkan makin lama makin sakit hati saja
> yang
> > didapat. Padahal DAKWAH itu kan tujuannya menuntun kejalan yang
baik,
> bukannya
> > menuntun kearah permusuhan ! kalau tak mampu begitu, sudaqhi saja
> dakwah yang
> > sia2 tersebut; kecuali memang masuk ke MILIS hanya untuk menyalurkan
> BAKAT
> > memaki maki umat beriman.
> >
> > Boleh anda protes dengan tulisan saya ini; terserah. Karena anda
semua
> saya
> > yakin punya logika yang dipegang.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia
hahaha




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
>
> 
> Yang ngomongin slangkangan lu siapa kok 
> bisa-bisanya kege-eran ada yang ngomongin 
> slangkangan lu. 
> 
> Gawat, ini sih bukan mlintir omongan orang 
> tapi memang asli tolol, ngebongkar kedok 
> sendiri bahwa dia juga napsu ama slangkangan 
> sendiri. 
> 
> ck..ck... jadi bener nih elu atlet pasar malem? 
> 
> --- item abu  wrote:
> 
> > Hehehe... yg gua omongin itu selangkangan orang Islam koq, bukan 
> > selangkangan gua.
> > 
> > Jadi, apa hubungan selangkangan gua dgn selangkangan orang Islam 
> > sampe lu bisa ngomongin selangkangan gua?
> > 
> > Kalo ngeliat orang Islam yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah dan nyopot 
> > celana si orang Ahmadiyah yg udah jadi mayat itu, gua jadi curiga 
> > bhw si orang Ahmadiyah itu diembat jg oleh orang Islam.
> > 
> > Jadi bisa aja nih orang2 Islam di milis ini jg punya minat yg sama 
> > dgn orang2 yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah tsb.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ajeg 
> >
> > > Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
> > > Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 
> > > 
> > > tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
> > > Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 
> > >
> > > --- "widura"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 
> > > > gini ?...
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: item abu 
> > > > 
> > > > > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang 
> > > > > merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang 
> > > > > Islam. 
> > > > > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu 
> > > > > merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn 
> > > > > kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam yg soleh dan 
> > > > > bertaqwa.
> > > > >
> > > > > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > > > > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat 
> > > > > lainnya.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > >http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: fall state index?

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik David Silalahi
agama diminati oleh para politikus karena agama cara paling murah untuk
memerintah orang, menguasai banyak penduduk, menerapkan kebijaksanaan
kelompok hanya dengan cuap-cuap manis.

tetapi di negara maju yang sudah dianggap sustain alias sudah tidak
terkategori "negara gagal" alias juga sudah terkategori negara mampu
bertahan seperti belanda, kebijakan sudah tidak melalui kendaraan agama
lagi. agama adalah primitif ketika rakyat sudah mengerti bahwa kebutuhan
perut tidak membutuhkan agama.

agama hanyalah untuk hiburan, tetapi perut adalah hal penting dan perlu
diakomodasi dengan tepat, bukan dengan agama. untuk hiburan bisa dengan cara
lain, hiburan ini pun perlu diatur oleh pihak penguasa juga agar hiburan ini
tidak menimbulkan keributan pro-kontra, sebab bila timbul pro-kontra dan tak
terurus maka negara bisa masuk kategori negara gagal.

sejauh ini belanda masih bisa mengatur perut warganya termasuk juga mengatur
hiburan untuk warganya.

fail state atau negara gagal emang gak ada definisi tepatnya, tapi sejauh
yang saya tahu adalah berkisar antara dua hal penting tersebut di atas yaitu
urusan perut dan urusan hiburan. hiburan ini juga berpengaruh dari urusan
keamanan dan kenyamanan. bagaimana mungkin merasa mendapatkan hiburan kalau
tidak ada keamanan dan kenyamanan?

negara indonesia sudah terkategori negara gagal karena banyak urusan
keamanan dan kenyamanan tidak terkuasai dengan baik oleh para penguasa.
dampaknya, satu-satunya hiburan yang murah dan juga diminati para politikus
adalah hiburan melalui agama.

dalam hal ini semua orang suka agama, tetapi agama bukanlah jalan keluar
karena efeknya yang bersifat membodohi, memerintah dan menguasai.



2011/4/28 liver_duke 

>
>
> contoh, kenapa perlu digalakkan ada program manajemen mitigasi
> semacam penanggulangan kebakaran termasuk pengadaan mobil pemadam
> kebakaran yg gak murah itu? sehingga menjadi gak populer melalui
> pendekatan manajemen pencegahan termasuk pengelolaan mitigasi.
>
> fenomena akutnya : bangsa ini dididik reaktif, not preventive.
> kebakaran, tsunami, kemiskinan, teror dan bom, korupsi, agama,
> adalah proyek yg menjanjikan. klo gak ada kebakaran, gimana bisa
> beli mobil pemadamnya? lantas bubarin aja kantor urusan kebakaran.
> maka agar kantor dan pejabatnya bekerja, perlu ada kebakaran bahkan
> bikinlah kebakaran (buat gusur misalnya) lantas usulan beli mobil.
> kemudian bikin laporan evaluasi bahwa taon ini sukses melaksanakan
> pemadaman, yg semakin tinggi frekwensinya berarti semakin tinggi
> pula usulan anggaran mendatangnya. itulah kinerja keberhasilan.
>
> mirip lennon minjem kalimat marx, semakin goblok sekaligus miskin
> penduduknya maka makin subur dan taat pula agamanya kayak nyandu.
> bisa pinter dikit, pecah belahlah. baru mo kaya, lemparin teror.
> pengen nyanyi bentar ato nyante nikmatin bola, langsung gorok.
>
> eh, ngapain gw kejerumus bahas gini yag
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mq4UT4VnbE
>


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[proletar] Re: The eunuch for jihad

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia
si anjing sipit mulai ngayal lagi, dimulai dengan kata-kata "gua rasa" sambil 
ngayal nabi ngembat cabo.

nabi nggak pernah nyabo, apalagi sampe piara cabo yang namanya sama dengan nama 
ibunya seperti tuhan jesus.  jangan disamain lah nabi yang gagah perkasa dengan 
tuhan jesus si pecundang tolol.

gw tanya kedua kalinya, njing.  'kenapa tuhan jesus memilih cabo yang punya 
nama sama dengan nama ibunya sendiri?'  




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe... pejihad Islam ini demi auloh mau bikin diri sendiri jadi impoten.
> 
> Gua rasa ini pasti krn ga ada PSK, maka si pejihad ini mau ngebiri sendiri, 
> kalo 
> ada, kan tinggal ngembat PSK spt ajaran nabi.
> 
> Maklum, orang Islam itu emang gila sex, dimulai dr nabi Islam sampe ke orang 
> Islam di jaman ini.
> 
> Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 139:   
> Narrated Abdullah: 
> >We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet and   
> >we 
> >had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet ). "Shall   we 
> >castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet forbade us to do that and   
> >thenceforth 
> >he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her  even a 
> >garment, 
> >and then he recited:  "O you who believe! Do not make   unlawful the 
> >good 
> >things which Allah has made lawful for you." Islam itu emang agama yg benar 
> >unt 
> >tukang bunuh dan sex maniak, masalahnya itu cuma ada satu, kadang ceweknya 
> >aja 
> >ga tersedia, jadi kepaksa deh jadi kasim, hehehe..
> 
> Saran gua buat orang2 Islam plus habe di milis ini, kalo udah ga ketahan, 
> drpd 
> ngeloco di milis ini, mendingan jadi kasim aja deh.
> 
> 
> The eunuch for jihad
> Soft jihadist
> 
> For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs  who 
> have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made  
> themselves 
> eunuchs for the sake of murdering infidels.
> "Al-Qaeda leader put jihad before a sex life," by Holly Watt in the 
> Telegraph, 
> April 26 (thanks to all who sent this in):
> One of the most senior members of al-Qaeda held at  Guantánamo took 
> injections 
> “to promote impotence” to avoid being  “distracted” by women, 
> according to 
> evidence uncovered by investigators. 
> 
> >Abd al-Rahim Hussein Muhammad Abdah al-Nashiri, a Saudi Arabian, was  said 
> >to 
> >have reported directly to Osama bin Laden. His interrogators  reported: 
> >“Detainee is so dedicated to jihad that he reportedly received  injections 
> >to 
> >promote impotence and recommended the injections to  others.”
> >He received the injections “so more time could be spent on jihad â€" 
> >rather than 
> >being distracted by women”.
> >According to the notes, al-Nashiri was allegedly “the senior  operative” 
> >in the 
> >attack on USS Cole, an American destroyer, in October  2000. Seventeen US 
> >sailors were killed in the suicide attack in a Yemeni  port, while dozens 
> >were 
> >injuredPosted by Robert on April 27, 2011 10:27 AM  | 26 Comments 
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: Orang Islam lebih rendah dr anjing

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Si @dapurmu disamping menghayal juga bohong, kek Paulus
Perhatikan apa kata Tuhannya

Mat 7:6  "Jangan kamu memberikan barang yang kudus kepada anjing dan
jangan kamu melemparkan mutiaramu kepada babi, supaya jangan
diinjak-injaknya dengan kakinya, lalu ia berbalik mengoyak kamu."

@dapurmu yg KATEBE anjing maupun babi, mana merasa.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> kalo umat kristen taat kayak elu sama dengan anjing ya?!
>
> persamaannya elu dan anjing, elu dan anjing ngencuk anak sendiri, elu
dan anjing ngencuk 'every bitch'.
>
> perbedaannya elu dengan anjing, anjing nggak piara cabo yang namanya
sama dengan nama ibunya sendiri, seperti kelakuan elu dan tuhan jesus.
>
> jadi umat kristen yang taat kayak elu elu lebih rendah dari anjing...
>
> hehehe...
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Hehehe... di sini kita lihat gimana orang Islam ngegigit tangan yg
ngasih makan
> > mereka.
> >
> > Padahal anjing aja ga gitu, anjing gua misalnya, biar gua masukin
tangan  gua ke
> > mulut anjing gua, si anjing itu ga ngegigit tangan gua.
> >
> >
> > Emang orang Islam itu lebih rendah dr anjing atau babi.
> >
> >
> > "We urge all Muslims to stay away from the royal wedding...because
of the
> > likelihood of an attack by the Mujahideen"
> > Come on in and make yourselves at home, fellows. What could possibly
go wrong?
> > Notice the grievance-mongering. Assad Ullah is situating any 
potential attack
> > within the Islamic theological framework of defensive  jihad.
> > "Muslim group claims royal wedding is legitimate terror target," by
Victoria
> > Ward in the Telegraph, April 27 (thanks to all who sent this in):
> > The royal wedding is a “legitimate target” for a
terrorist  attack because of
> > Britain’s foreign policy and the invasion of Iraq and 
Afghanistan, a radical
> > Islamic group has claimed.
> >
> > >Muslims Against Crusades, which had its application to protest on 
Friday turned
> > >down by police, yesterday urged Muslims to stay away from  central
London when
> > >Prince William marries Kate Middleton and to avoid  all means of
public
> > >transport due to the heightened risk of an attack.
> > >Assad Ullah, leader of the extremist campaign group, insisted that
it  had no
> > >“inside knowledge” but was simply repeating security
fears that  have already
> > >been widely reported.
> > >“There is a legitimate Islam opinion that those who have
been attacked have the
> > >right to retaliate,” he said.
> > "To those against whom war is made, permission is given to fight), 
because they
> > are wronged; and verily, Allah is most powerful for their  aid." --
Qur'an 22:39
> >
> > “British foreign policy is causing this kind of feeling and 
increasing the
> > instability in this country. We do not advocate violence  but can
see how they
> > made themselves a legitimate target for others.”
> >
> > >Announcing that the group had abandoned its plans to protest
against  the
> > >wedding, group spokesman Abu Abbas said: “We urge all
Muslims to  stay away from
> > >the royal wedding, not only because of the drinking, drug  taking
and sexual
> > >promiscuity but because of the likelihood of an  attack by the
Mujahideen.
> > >"We urge all Muslims to stay away from public places and all public
transport,
> > >trains, buses and tubes around central London.”...
> > >Abbas said: "The killing of Muslims, the raping of Muslim women and
the
> > >imprisonment of Muslims are increasing the instability in this 
country.
> > >"We will not be participating and demonstrating, we are withdrawing
our souls
> > >due to the risk of an attack. We believe it is highly likely,  it
is a prime
> > >target.
> > >“Many people feel that they have been oppressed and have a
score to  settle with
> > >the Royal Family. We can see why they see them as a  legitimate
target.”
> > >As the group accused the Royal Family of being responsible for war 
crimes,
> > >onlookers shouted: “You're all on benefits anyway”
and “Long  live the Queen”.
> > >One of the Muslims retorted: "You paid for this camera, you pay for
my benefits,
> > >you're basically my slave."...
> > Indeed. That's how the jizya works.Posted by Robert on April 27,
2011  9:02 AM
> > | 24 Comments
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>



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[proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Ibrahim (14):33
Dan Dia telah menundukkan (pula) bagimu matahari dan bulan yang terus
menerus beredar (dalam orbitnya); dan telah menundukkan bagimu malam dan
siang.


And He hath made subject to you the sun and the moon, both diligently
pursuing their courses; and the night and the day hath he (also) made
subject to you.

Ayat di atas saat disampaikan kepada Rasulullah saw ga ada tanya menanya
apa-bagaimananya. Demikian juga dari Muhammad saw ke para sahabat maupun
umatnya.  Bahwa matahari maupun bulan beredar pada lajur tertentu, saat
itu mustilah sulit dicerna.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Wong"  wrote:
>
> Bagaimanakah seharusnya guru agama mengajar? Kalao sampeyan menjadi
guru ngaji bagaimanakah sampeyan akan mengajari para santri tentang
Israk Miraj dimana di kisahkan bahwa nabi Muhammad melakukan perjalanan
dalam sekejap naik Buroq dari Masjidil Haram ke Masijidil Aqso terus ke
Sidratul muntaha bertemu dengan Alloh untuk menerima perintah solat.
Apakah ini yang sampeyan maksud sebagai dongengan tolol. Karena
sesungguhnya cerita hanyalah sebuah cerita fiksi yang jelas tidak masuk
akal
>
> Atau sampeyan akan membuat rasionalisasi, misalnya dengan mengatakan,
Buroq itu memang hanya kiasan, Buroq itu bermakna mlebu sak jroning rok
atao masuk kedalam baju wanita, yang berarti nabi Muhammad sesungguhnya
tidak kemana mana tetapi berdiam di rumah istrinya, tapi nabi Muhammad
melamun dan menghayal bisa terbang kemana mana. Namanya juga menghayal
maka tidak heran dalam sekejap dia bisa berada di Masjidil Harom
kemudian sekejap berikutnya ke Masjidil Aqso dan seterusnya, wong
namanya juga melamun.
>
> Jika sampeyan menjadi guru ngaji, bagaimanakah sampeyan akan
menjelaskan kepada para santri tentang eksodus bangsa Israel dari Mesir
menuju tanah perjanjian yang dipimpin oleh Musa. Dimana dikisahkan dalam
pelarian itu Musa memukulkan tongkatnya ke laut kemudain laut itu
terbelah menjadi seperti daratan sehingga bangsa Israel bisa menyeberang
dengan selamat. Inikah kisah dongengan tolol yang sampeyan maksudkan?
>
> Apakah sampeyan akan mengatakan kepada para santri bahwa kisah ini
hanyalah fiksi, sebab mana mungkin ada tongkat yang ajaib seperti
tongkat Musa.  Keajaiban tongkat Musa hanya bisa ditandingi oleh senjata
yang fiktif juga milik prabu Kresna yaitu sebuah senjata Cakra,  
keajaiban Cakra sungguh ngedab ngedabi, saking hebatnya senjata ini bila
di arahkan ke gunung , gunung gugur, segara asat, bantolo mbledag.
Karena cakra hanya senjata fiktif, pastilah tongkat musa juga fiktif.
Dongengan ini akan menjadi dongengan tolol apabila dongeng fiktif
dianggap cerita yang betul betul terjadi.
>
> Jika seorang santri mengejar pertanggung jawaban lebih lanjut mengapa
ada alat transportasi yang begitu ajaib dan tidak masuk akal seprti
Buroq, jawabnya ITU KEHENDAK ALLOH, demikian juga dengan tongkat musa
yang ajaib dan tidak masuk akal jawabnya juga ITU SUDAH KEHENDAK ALLOH,
dengan demikian ALLOH menjadi sesuatu yang tidak masuk akal, yang
tahayul
>
> Sama tahayulnya dengan pendapat yang mengatakan bahwa wabah ulat di
jawatimur adalah azab Alloh, karena manusia sudah ingkar terhadap hulum2
Alloh. Sama tahayulnya dengan anggapan yang mengatakan bahwa tsunami di
Aceh yang membunuh jutaan orang adalah Azab Alloh, sama tahayulnya
dengan pendapat yang mengatakan bahwa gempa di Pengandaran, cilapa joga
yang menelan korban ratusan orang juga azab Alloh, karena penduduk
pantai selatan masih membuat sesaji sedekah laut untul nyi Roro kidul.
Dengan demikian Alloh menjadi sesuatu yang sangat kejam.
>
> Diatas hanyalah sebagian kecil dari kisah kisah dalam pelajaran agama,
tapi bagaimanapun juga biarlah sampeyan sendiri yang menyampaiakn kisah
kisah itu agar supaya kisah itu tidak menjadi DONGENGAN TOLOL seperti
yang sampeyan maksud
>
> Rahayu
>
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg" ajegilelu@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ini sih omongan orang-orang yang kesel sama
> > guru agamanya (yang ngajarin agama dengan
> > dongengan tolol) tapi lalu meyakini agama itu
> > setolol dongengan gurunya.
> > Ini nggak beda dengan gejala anak sekolah
> > yang alergi pelajaran "susah" hanya lantaran
> > gurunya nggak becus ngajar.
> >
> > Sekarang, coba kasih wawan kesempatan untuk
> > jelasin analisanya soal hubungan antara agama,
> > takhyul, dan takut mati, di alinea terakhir itu.
> >
> > Lalu, kita dengarkan juga pendapatnya tentang
> > orang-orang yang bilang pelaku bom bunuhdiri itu
> > tindakannya dipengaruhi agama.
> >
> > Atau cuma mau asyik posting obrolan sendiri terus?
> >
> > :)
> >
> > --- "Wong"  wrote:
> >
> > > Meskipun agama adalah setahayul tahayulnya tahyul, dan membuat
> > > pemeluknya kehilangan rasionalitasnya, namun sisi postif agama
> > > adalah bahwa agama bisa menjadi obat generik paling murah bagi
> > > orang orang yang malang. Agama adalah pengganja masa. tak ada
ganja
> > > yang lebih murah dari pada agama.
> > >
> > > Rahyu
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "wawan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > > agama...
> > > > sekali lagi agama.

[proletar] Re: Orang Islam lebih rendah dr anjing

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia
kalo umat kristen taat kayak elu sama dengan anjing ya?!

persamaannya elu dan anjing, elu dan anjing ngencuk anak sendiri, elu dan 
anjing ngencuk 'every bitch'.

perbedaannya elu dengan anjing, anjing nggak piara cabo yang namanya sama 
dengan nama ibunya sendiri, seperti kelakuan elu dan tuhan jesus.

jadi umat kristen yang taat kayak elu elu lebih rendah dari anjing...

hehehe...




 
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe... di sini kita lihat gimana orang Islam ngegigit tangan yg ngasih 
> makan 
> mereka.
> 
> Padahal anjing aja ga gitu, anjing gua misalnya, biar gua masukin tangan  gua 
> ke 
> mulut anjing gua, si anjing itu ga ngegigit tangan gua. 
> 
> 
> Emang orang Islam itu lebih rendah dr anjing atau babi.
> 
> 
> "We urge all Muslims to stay away from the royal wedding...because of the 
> likelihood of an attack by the Mujahideen"
> Come on in and make yourselves at home, fellows. What could possibly go 
> wrong? 
> Notice the grievance-mongering. Assad Ullah is situating any  potential 
> attack 
> within the Islamic theological framework of defensive  jihad.
> "Muslim group claims royal wedding is legitimate terror target," by Victoria 
> Ward in the Telegraph, April 27 (thanks to all who sent this in):
> The royal wedding is a “legitimate target” for a terrorist  attack 
> because of 
> Britain’s foreign policy and the invasion of Iraq and  Afghanistan, a 
> radical 
> Islamic group has claimed. 
> 
> >Muslims Against Crusades, which had its application to protest on  Friday 
> >turned 
> >down by police, yesterday urged Muslims to stay away from  central London 
> >when 
> >Prince William marries Kate Middleton and to avoid  all means of public 
> >transport due to the heightened risk of an attack.
> >Assad Ullah, leader of the extremist campaign group, insisted that it  had 
> >no 
> >“inside knowledge” but was simply repeating security fears that  have 
> >already 
> >been widely reported.
> >“There is a legitimate Islam opinion that those who have been attacked 
> >have the 
> >right to retaliate,” he said.
> "To those against whom war is made, permission is given to fight),  because 
> they 
> are wronged; and verily, Allah is most powerful for their  aid." -- Qur'an 
> 22:39 
> 
> “British foreign policy is causing this kind of feeling and  increasing the 
> instability in this country. We do not advocate violence  but can see how 
> they 
> made themselves a legitimate target for others.” 
> 
> >Announcing that the group had abandoned its plans to protest against  the 
> >wedding, group spokesman Abu Abbas said: “We urge all Muslims to  stay 
> >away from 
> >the royal wedding, not only because of the drinking, drug  taking and sexual 
> >promiscuity but because of the likelihood of an  attack by the Mujahideen.
> >"We urge all Muslims to stay away from public places and all public  
> >transport, 
> >trains, buses and tubes around central London.”...
> >Abbas said: "The killing of Muslims, the raping of Muslim women and  the 
> >imprisonment of Muslims are increasing the instability in this  country.
> >"We will not be participating and demonstrating, we are withdrawing  our 
> >souls 
> >due to the risk of an attack. We believe it is highly likely,  it is a prime 
> >target.
> >“Many people feel that they have been oppressed and have a score to  
> >settle with 
> >the Royal Family. We can see why they see them as a  legitimate target.”
> >As the group accused the Royal Family of being responsible for war  crimes, 
> >onlookers shouted: “You're all on benefits anyway” and “Long  live the 
> >Queen”.
> >One of the Muslims retorted: "You paid for this camera, you pay for my 
> >benefits, 
> >you're basically my slave."...
> Indeed. That's how the jizya works.Posted by Robert on April 27, 2011  9:02 
> AM  
> | 24 Comments 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Pasti tuh gereja2 ga bayar uang keamanan.
>

pasti lah nggak bayar, soale tuh gereja nggak ada duitnya.

duit perpuluhan umatnya ditilep ama pendetanya.  
pendeta kristen tuh semuanya maling duit perpuluhan umatnya.



 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: widura 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 5:32:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> 
>
> Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya toleran...tapi 
> kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo itu 
> bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja berbuat seperti itu...
> -Original Message-
> From: "sunny" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> 
> http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-jombang
> 
> 
> FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang 
> Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51 
> Muji Lestari 
> Hits: 832 
> 
> 
> KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa Timur mengaku 
> tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di gereja, pada Minggu 
> kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang anggota milisi sipil FPI 
> dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan, dari Persekutuan Gereja dan 
> Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir 
> meski 
> gereja-gereja dijaga aparat kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini FPI 
> lebih banyak dikenal dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
> 
> "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir, cemas 
> sehingga 
> ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut ibadah. Takut dengan adanya 
> kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar Jombang. Kalau Jombang saja 
> mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari luar Jombang yang seakan -akan 
> sehingga 
> acara mereka sudah membuat umat ini bertanya -tanya apakan kita ini aman 
> nggak 
> dalam ibadah ini."
> 
> Kemarin, ribuan orang mengenakan atribut kelompok milisi sipil FPI membanjiri 
> Jombang Jawa Timur. Mereka datang dari berbagai daerah untuk menghadiri 
> pengajian akbar FPI.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
>  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [proletar] Itemnya pantat Jusfiq

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Tapi perlu dipejelas bahwa yang digoyang 
adalah pantat si uplik, biar nggak ada yang 
geer... 

--- "Abdul Karim"  wrote:

> Dari pada kita menghina dll yg sejenis . 
> Mendingan kita goyang ala BRIPTU NORMAN
> Caiyaaa... caiy
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PAREWA
> 
> > goyaaanggg mang 
> > 
> > --- Habe  menulis:
> >   
> > > Jelas item,
> > > wong dia keseringan menduduki si item abu
> > > goyang teru pik 
> >
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RE: [proletar] Itemnya pantat Jusfiq

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Abdul Karim
Dari pada kita menghina dll yg sejenis . 
Mendingan kita goyang ala BRIPTU NORMAN
Caiyaaa... caiy



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goyaaanggg mang 

--- Pada Rab, 27/4/11, Habe  menulis:

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  Jelas item,

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Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Yang ngomongin slangkangan lu siapa kok 
bisa-bisanya kege-eran ada yang ngomongin 
slangkangan lu. 

Gawat, ini sih bukan mlintir omongan orang 
tapi memang asli tolol, ngebongkar kedok 
sendiri bahwa dia juga napsu ama slangkangan 
sendiri. 

ck..ck... jadi bener nih elu atlet pasar malem? 

--- item abu  wrote:

> Hehehe... yg gua omongin itu selangkangan orang Islam koq, bukan 
> selangkangan gua.
> 
> Jadi, apa hubungan selangkangan gua dgn selangkangan orang Islam 
> sampe lu bisa ngomongin selangkangan gua?
> 
> Kalo ngeliat orang Islam yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah dan nyopot 
> celana si orang Ahmadiyah yg udah jadi mayat itu, gua jadi curiga 
> bhw si orang Ahmadiyah itu diembat jg oleh orang Islam.
> 
> Jadi bisa aja nih orang2 Islam di milis ini jg punya minat yg sama 
> dgn orang2 yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah tsb.
> 
> 
> 
> From: ajeg 
>
> > Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
> > Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 
> > 
> > tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
> > Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 
> >
> > --- "widura"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 
> > > gini ?...
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: item abu 
> > > 
> > > > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang 
> > > > merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > > >
> > > > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang 
> > > > Islam. 
> > > > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu 
> > > > merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn 
> > > > kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam yg soleh dan 
> > > > bertaqwa.
> > > >
> > > > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > > > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat 
> > > > lainnya.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> >http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
> >
>
>
>





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Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe... yg gua omongin itu selangkangan orang Islam koq, bukan selangkangan 
gua.

Jadi, apa hubungan selangkangan gua dgn selangkangan orang Islam sampe lu bisa 
ngomongin selangkangan gua?

Kalo ngeliat orang Islam yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah dan nyopot celana si 
orang 
Ahmadiyah yg udah jadi mayat itu, gua jadi curiga bhw si orang Ahmadiyah itu 
diembat jg oleh orang Islam.

Jadi bisa aja nih orang2 Islam di milis ini jg punya minat yg sama dgn orang2 
yg 
ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah tsb.







From: ajeg 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 8:07:53 AM
Subject: Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

   

Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 

tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 

--- "widura"  wrote:

> Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 
> gini ?...
> -Original Message-
> From: item abu 
> 
> > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang 
> > merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > 
> > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam. 
> > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu 
> > merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn 
> > kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam yg soleh dan 
> > bertaqwa.
> >
> > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat 
> > lainnya.
> > 
> > 
> > 
>http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
>
> >
> > 
> > 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02
> > IANS, Apr 26, 2011, 02.00pm IST
> > Tags:
> > * Taslima Nasreen
> > DHAKA:  A judicial commission has concluded that over 200 Hindu 
> > women were raped following the 2001 parliamentary election, 
> > forcing many terrorized families to flee the country.
> > The acts were allegedly committed  by cadres of the Bangladesh 
> > Nationalist Party (BNP) and its ally  Jamaat-e-Islami who won the 
> > 2001 polls, the report said, citing the  involvement of many top 
> > leaders and lawmakers of the alliance that is  now in the 
> > opposition.
> > While the commission referred to the victims as "minority women", 
> > media reports of that period had identified them as Hindus.
> > With Begum Khaleda Zia as the prime minister, the BNP-Jamaat 
> > alliance ruled Bangladesh during 2001-06.
> > The violence went on for 15 months and "the barbarous act was 
> > intended  to force them to leave the country. They were, in the 
> > eyes of the  culprits, enemies as they voted for the Awami 
> > League", The Daily Star  said on Tuesday, quoting commission 
> > sources.
> > The commission  submitted the report to home minister Sahara 
> > Khatun. It lists 3,625  incidents of major crimes, including 
> > killing, rape, arson and looting.
> > Media reports at that time had detailed the plight of hundreds of 
> > Hindu families crossing over to India, forcing the Indian 
> > government to  express concern.
> > Bangladeshi poet Daud Hyder, who visited the camps in India where 
> > these families were lodged and wrote about it, was later charged 
> > with sedition and imprisoned.
> > The wave of violence was the subject of "Lajja" by novelist 
> > Taslima Nasreen, who angered the Islamists at home and was had to 
> > quit Bangladesh. She still remains exiled.
> > Many victims and their family members interviewed by the probe 
> > panel  narrated harrowing experiences, but said they did not 
> > lodge police  reports or undergo forensic tests for fear of 
> > inviting social stigma,  the report says.
> > Many victims and their family members across the country 
> > contacted the commission when it was conducting the probe.
> > According to the panel, it would be "tough or, to some extent, 
> > impossible" to continue the probe into the rape allegations "as 
> > the  victims themselves are unwilling to do the legal battle".
> > The  probe panel found that most of the gang rapes occurred in 
> > the country's southern part - Bhola, Barisal, Agoiljhara and 
> > Gaurnadi.
> > The  accused were acquitted for lack of witnesses. In some cases, 
> > police gave final reports while the names of the accused were 
> > dropped in over 500  cases out of the 3,625 major incidents.
> > With the passing of a  decade, some of the accused utilised "good > > 
>connection with ruling Awami  League men", which forced the 
>
> > police to drop many cases, the media  report said.
> > The panel has named several BNP and Jamaat leaders for their 
> > involvement in the post-poll violence.
> 
> 
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Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Maklum aja, tiap hari emang orang Islam itu banyak melakukan kejahatan. Cukup 
ngelongok ke 2 website http://www.thereligionofpeace.com dan 
http://www.jihadwatch.org, kita bisa lihat kesolehan orang Islam.

Berapa banyak kejahatan orang Islam yg ga keliput oleh media? Banyak sekali.

Misalnya, berapa banyak tkw yg tiap hari dianiaya dan diperkosa oleh majikan 
Arabnya tp ga dipedulikan sama sekali oleh siapapun? Banyak sekali.






From: widura 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 6:46:15 AM
Subject: Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

   
Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 gini ?...
-Original Message-
From: item abu 
Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:42:11 
To: 
Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang merkosa cewek 
kafir 

di Bangladesh.

Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam. Dan krn yg 
diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu merkosa demi auloh spy dpt 
pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang 
Islam yg soleh dan bertaqwa.

Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex maniak, tukang siksa 
cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat lainnya.


http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members



'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02
IANS, Apr 26, 2011, 02.00pm IST
Tags:
* Taslima Nasreen
DHAKA:  A judicial commission has concluded that over 200 Hindu women were 
raped following the 2001 parliamentary election, forcing many terrorized 
families to flee the country.
The acts were allegedly committed  by cadres of the Bangladesh Nationalist 
Party 

(BNP) and its ally  Jamaat-e-Islami who won the 2001 polls, the report said, 
citing the  involvement of many top leaders and lawmakers of the alliance that 
is  now in the opposition.
While the commission referred to the victims as "minority women", media reports 
of that period had identified them as Hindus.
With Begum Khaleda Zia as the prime minister, the BNP-Jamaat alliance ruled 
Bangladesh during 2001-06.
The violence went on for 15 months and "the barbarous act was intended  to 
force 

them to leave the country. They were, in the eyes of the  culprits, enemies as 
they voted for the Awami League", The Daily Star  said on Tuesday, quoting 
commission sources.
The commission  submitted the report to home minister Sahara Khatun. It lists 
3,625  incidents of major crimes, including killing, rape, arson and looting.
Media reports at that time had detailed the plight of hundreds of Hindu 
families crossing over to India, forcing the Indian government to  express 
concern.
Bangladeshi poet Daud Hyder, who visited the camps in India where these 
families 

were lodged and wrote about it, was later charged with sedition and imprisoned.
The wave of violence was the subject of "Lajja" by novelist Taslima Nasreen, 
who 

angered the Islamists at home and was had to quit Bangladesh. She still remains 
exiled.
Many victims and their family members interviewed by the probe panel  narrated 
harrowing experiences, but said they did not lodge police  reports or undergo 
forensic tests for fear of inviting social stigma,  the report says.
Many victims and their family members across the country contacted the 
commission when it was conducting the probe.
According to the panel, it would be "tough or, to some extent,  impossible" to 
continue the probe into the rape allegations "as the  victims themselves are 
unwilling to do the legal battle".
The  probe panel found that most of the gang rapes occurred in the country's 
southern part - Bhola, Barisal, Agoiljhara and Gaurnadi.
The  accused were acquitted for lack of witnesses. In some cases, police gave 
final reports while the names of the accused were dropped in over 500  cases 
out 

of the 3,625 major incidents.
With the passing of a  decade, some of the accused utilised "good connection 
with ruling Awami  League men", which forced the police to drop many cases, the 
media  report said.
The panel has named several BNP and Jamaat leaders for their involvement in the 
post-poll violence.


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Re: [proletar] Re: hati2 provokator

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe cuma bisa OOT sambil nunjukin tebal mukanya.

Kalo auloh bilang non muslim itu kafir, makhluk yg paling rendah, najis, ga 
bisa 
dipercaya dll, auloh itu provokator apa bukan?

Ga bakalan deh ada orang Islam yg berani jawab, biarpun mereka selalu ngoceh 
soal adanya provokator. Maklum, dr mulut anjing itu ga akan timbuh gading.






From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 7:24:31 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: hati2 provokator

   
Ada >200 kata "kafir" di LAI76 (Terj. Lama) namun
@dapurmu dikibuli seolah-olah ga ada "kafir" di
LAI06 (Ter. Baru). Celakanya dia ga ngeh kalau dia
ini termasuk, KATEBE, kafir. Juga bangsanya babi
dan anjing.

PS
Kalau Yesus bilangnya babi, ya babi. Bukan babi hutan
atau silangan babi vs babi hutan. Kalau bilangnya anjing,
wallahu'alam. Bulldog, Chihua-hua atau yang mana.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe... kalo auloh bilang non muslim itu kafir, makhluk yg paling
rendah,
> najis, ga bisa dipercaya dll, auloh itu provokator apa bukan?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Abbas Amin abas_amin08@...
> To: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 12:06:20 PM
> Subject: [proletar] hati2 provokator
>
>
> Baik dari golongan Islam, maupun golongan Kresten ada provokatornya.
> Kita mengetahui, disetiap agama, ada golongan2nya; terbagi secara Umum
:
>
> 1. Golongan keras - bermusuhan
> 2. Golongan Moderat - toleransi tingi
> 3. Golongan low profile - semua untuk pribadi
>
> ketiga golongan ini berinteraksi dan bisa saling mempengaruhi; tapi
yang
> menonjol adalah golongan KERAS mempengaruhi golongan lainnya.
>
> Selain itu, ada pula segolongan yaitu PROVOKATOR; ini bisa dari mana
saja;
> tugasnya adalah menyebar kebencian dimana mana.
>
> Kita harus hati2 menanggapinya; kalau terpancing; maka kitalah yang
GOBLOK dan
> TOLOL. Sehingga misalnya kita ikut2 maki agama orang lain. Padahal
yang maki
> agama kita belum tentu dari golongan agama yang kita kira lawan kita.
>
> Bisa juga orang yang beragama jadi provokator; sengaja makin membuat
panas
> situasi, bukan meredam malah menyi5ramnya dengan bensin; akibatnya
kesalah
> pahaman makin melebar; upaya untuk saling toleransi makin sulit.
>
> Menjawab suatu kritik agama harus hati2; kalau tidak, kitapun akan
masuk jadi
> provokator juga.Kalau tak bisa membuat suasana jadi dingin karena
kemampuan kita
> yang kurang memadai, mendingan nggak usah bicara; itu lebih baik; dari
pada
> cuap2 maki2 agama lain.
>
> Yang tertawa terbahak bahak; yaaah provokator itu ! Senang mereka.
> Saya melihat sekarang ini DUTA2 Islam yang ada di milis P4roletar
kebanyakan ADU
> maki dengan yang dituduh Kresten; padahal belum TENTU. Setelah keluar
maki2;
> maka yang benar2 Kresten jelas saja akan tersinggung; dan kalau mereka
memaki
> balik, dan ikut ngeroyok duta2 Islam tersebut; sangat wajar.
>
> Saya pribadi berharap toleransi tetap harus dijaga. Jadi ada rambu2
tersendiri
> dalam hal ini. Sembarang memaki agama lain orang, hanya akan buang2
waktu
> percuma saja; hasil tak ada. Bahkan makin lama makin sakit hati saja
yang
> didapat. Padahal DAKWAH itu kan tujuannya menuntun kejalan yang baik,
bukannya
> menuntun kearah permusuhan ! kalau tak mampu begitu, sudaqhi saja
dakwah yang
> sia2 tersebut; kecuali memang masuk ke MILIS hanya untuk menyalurkan
BAKAT
> memaki maki umat beriman.
>
> Boleh anda protes dengan tulisan saya ini; terserah. Karena anda semua
saya
> yakin punya logika yang dipegang.
>
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>
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Re: [proletar] Re: 10-Year Old Afghan Girl Claims She Was Raped

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe gua pernah nanya di milis lain ke orang Islam yg ngaku berpendidikan 
tinggi, berwawasan luas dan bisa bedain antara ajaran Islam dan budaya Arab.

Pertanyaan gua itu adalah apakah nabi Islam ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn itu 
budaya Arab atau ajaran Islam.Sampe sekarang, ga pernah dijawab selain dgn 
kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut.

Apa di milis ini ada orang Islam yg berani jawab pertanyaan tsb?






From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 7:14:28 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: 10-Year Old Afghan Girl Claims She Was Raped

   
Padahal "kawanmu" si @teddy_bear dan @weeds
berpandangan lain. Kok nT bertahan ya? Kasian.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Ga ada pernikahan di bawah umur secara adat di Timur Tengah, yg ada
itu adlaah
> pernikahan di bawah umur secara agama Islam di Timur Tengah.
>
> Dgn kata lain, Islam itu ngehalalin pedophilia.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: widura a.widura@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 11:04:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: 10-Year Old Afghan Girl Claims She Was
Raped
>
> cut
> "Harus dibedakan antara pedofil karena kelainan atau perkawinan
dibawah umur
> yang secara adat masih berlaku di beberapa tempat, antara lain Timur
> Tengah."
>
> Betul sekalijadi memang ada yg pedofil karena penyakit, tapi ada
juga yg
> memang dibenarkan untuk dilakukan oleh sekelompok masyarakat
pendukungnya. Dan
> itu menjadi sah dalam lingkungan mereka setelah melalui ritual
pengesahan
> menurut tata cara mereka sendiri.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Teddy S." teddyr@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:51:29
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: 10-Year Old Afghan Girl Claims She Was Raped
>
> Perkecualian selalu ada, tapi jauh bedanya kalau dibandingkan dengan
penampakan
> dari situs berikut, http://lumbeehomecoming.com/
>
>
> Harus dibedakan antara pedofil karena kelainan atau perkawinan dibawah
umur yang
> secara adat masih berlaku di beberapa tempat, antara lain Timur
Tengah.
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ wrote:
> >
> > Dah liat komennya Bro @Led_Zeppelin?
> >
> > Btw,
> > Keknya juga ga perlu tak tambahin "bukan induknya beruang (induknya
> > teddy_bear)".
> > Kalau induk beruang (induk teddy bear)  kan ga ngerti pedofil,
> > induk-anak, apalagi jualan anak? Atau nDeboost keleru?
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S."  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sebelum beri komentar periksa terlebih dahulu.
> > > Jangan mentang-mentang namanya Antoinette Davis maka pasti Kristen
> > atau berkulit putih. Yasng jelas orang ini dari fotonya adalah Afro
> > American.
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ga perlu tak tambahi Kriten ato Putih utk yg  pedofil dan atau
yg
> > mata
> > > > duiten
> > > >
> > > > Ibu Tega Jual Anak 5 Tahun ke Jaringan Prostitusi
> > > > Polisi AS tengah mencari seorang anak perempuan berusia lima
tahun
> > yang
> > > > telah dijual oleh ibunya ke jaringan prostitusi. Shaniya Davis
tidak
> > > > diketahui nasibnya dalam enam hari setelah terlihat terakhir
kali
> > diajak
> > > > ke sebuah ruang kamar hotel oleh seorang pria dewasa.
> > > >
> > > > Aparat penegak hukum FBI dan US Marshalls bergabung untuk
melakukan
> > > > pencarian secara nasional terhadap balita yang dikhawatirkan
telah
> > > > terjeblos ke jaringan pedofil. Polisi telah menjerat sang ibu,
> > > > Antoinette Davis, dengan pasal tindak kriminal prostitusi dan
> > > > perdagangan manusia.
> > > >
> > > > Surat penahanan telah dikeluarkan terhadap Antoinette Davis yang
> > > > akhirnya mengakui telah menyerahkan putrinya itu untuk dijadikan
> > obyek
> > > > pelampias nafsu seks dari pria hidung belang yang mendambakan
> > hubungan
> > > > dengan anak di bawah usia. Ibu yang tengah hamil itu semula
> > melaporkan
> > > > putrinya hilang Selasa pekan lalu.
> > > >
> > > > Polisi mulai mencurigai keterangan Antoinette Davis setelah
> > menelusuri
> > > > kronologi peristiwa yang mengarah ke hilangnya Shaniya Davis
dari
> > sebuah
> > > > taman di Fayetteville, North Carolina. Kemudian polisi berhasil
> > > > mendapatkan rekaman CCTV dari sebuah hotel yang terletak 40 mil
dari
> > > > Fayetteville. Hasil rekaman CCTV menunjukkan, Shaniya Davis
diajak
> > > > menuju kamar hotel oleh seorang pria bernama Mario McNeill.
> > > >
> > > > Sejak saat itu, Shaniya Davis tidak diketahui keberadaannya
meskipun
> > > > pria dewasa yang terlihat bersamanya di CCTV telah menyerahkan
diri
> > ke
> > > > polisi Jumat pekan lalu dengan pengakuan sempat menyekap balita
ini.
> > > > Saat ditanya kemungkinan apakah anak perempuan ini masih hidup,
> > Sersan
> > > > John Somerindyke dari Kepolisian Fayetteville menjelaskan, "Kami
> > tetap
> > > > optimistis berharap demikian."
> > > >
> > >

Re: Bls: [proletar] hati2 provokator

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe kenapa si auloh yg bilang non Islam itu adalah kafir, makhluk 
seburuk2nya dan ga bisa dipercaya itu ga dianggap sbg provokator?

Kan udah jelas dgn ajaran auloh ini, maka orang2 Islam itu jadi biadab doyan 
ngebantai dan merkosa kafir.






From: PAREWA 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 7:12:21 PM
Subject: Bls: [proletar] hati2 provokator

   
Kayaknya yg jadi provokator itu cuma 2 aja deh yaitu si jusfiq yg nasarani 
pragmatis dan si item nasarani radikal dari sekte air comberan. Yg islam cuma 
bereaksi aja terhadap fitnah2 mereka yg keji. Tapi baiknya sih, dipsotingin 
saja 
satu demi satu ayat2 firman tuhan dari alkitab agar mereka sadar. 


--- Pada Sel, 26/4/11, Abbas Amin  menulis:

Dari: Abbas Amin 
Judul: [proletar] hati2 provokator
Kepada: "proletar" 
Tanggal: Selasa, 26 April, 2011, 12:06 PM

 

Baik dari golongan Islam, maupun golongan Kresten ada provokatornya.

Kita mengetahui, disetiap agama, ada golongan2nya; terbagi secara Umum :

1. Golongan keras - bermusuhan

2. Golongan Moderat - toleransi tingi

3. Golongan low profile - semua untuk pribadi

ketiga golongan ini berinteraksi dan bisa saling mempengaruhi; tapi yang 
menonjol adalah golongan KERAS mempengaruhi golongan lainnya.

Selain itu, ada pula segolongan yaitu PROVOKATOR; ini bisa dari mana saja; 
tugasnya adalah menyebar kebencian dimana mana.

Kita harus hati2 menanggapinya; kalau terpancing; maka kitalah yang GOBLOK dan 
TOLOL. Sehingga misalnya kita ikut2 maki agama orang lain. Padahal yang maki 
agama kita belum tentu dari golongan agama yang kita kira lawan kita.

Bisa juga orang yang beragama jadi provokator; sengaja makin membuat panas 
situasi, bukan meredam malah menyi5ramnya dengan bensin; akibatnya kesalah 
pahaman makin melebar; upaya untuk saling toleransi makin sulit.

Menjawab suatu kritik agama harus hati2; kalau tidak, kitapun akan masuk jadi 
provokator juga.Kalau tak bisa membuat suasana jadi dingin karena kemampuan 
kita 
yang kurang memadai, mendingan nggak usah bicara; itu lebih baik; dari pada 
cuap2 maki2 agama lain.

Yang tertawa terbahak bahak; yaaah provokator itu ! Senang mereka.

Saya melihat sekarang ini DUTA2 Islam yang ada di milis P4roletar kebanyakan 
ADU 
maki dengan yang dituduh Kresten; padahal belum TENTU. Setelah keluar maki2; 
maka yang benar2 Kresten jelas saja akan tersinggung; dan kalau mereka memaki 
balik, dan ikut ngeroyok duta2 Islam tersebut; sangat wajar.

Saya pribadi berharap toleransi tetap harus dijaga. Jadi ada rambu2 tersendiri 
dalam hal ini. Sembarang memaki agama lain orang, hanya akan buang2 waktu 
percuma saja; hasil tak ada. Bahkan makin lama makin sakit hati saja yang 
didapat. Padahal DAKWAH itu kan tujuannya menuntun kejalan yang baik, bukannya 
menuntun kearah permusuhan ! kalau tak mampu begitu, sudaqhi saja dakwah yang 
sia2 tersebut; kecuali memang masuk ke MILIS hanya untuk menyalurkan BAKAT 
memaki maki umat beriman.

Boleh anda protes dengan tulisan saya ini; terserah. Karena anda semua saya 
yakin punya logika yang dipegang.

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Re: [proletar] Re: Itemnya pantat Jusfiq

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe... gua jg tau koq keberadaan PSK di tanah suci lu itu.







From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 6:52:51 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Itemnya pantat Jusfiq

   
Puih, hafal dia yg londe di Nevada exempted..
Barusan dibaptis 4nus ya?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe gerombolan orang Islam plus lagi ngeloco rame2.
>
> Kayaknya tebakan gua betul nih, si habe udah ditinggal bininya, jadi
kepaksa dia
> ngeloco spy bisa puas. Maklum PSK di Amrik itu kan mahal dan jg ilegal
kecuali
> di Nevada.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: ajeg ajegilelu@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 3:21:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Itemnya pantat Jusfiq
>
>
>
> --- "Habe" proletar4@ wrote:
>
> > Jelas item,
> > wong dia keseringan menduduki si item abu
>
> Kalo gitu gak mungkin pantat si uplik cuma item,
> pasti sebelah item sebelah abu-abu.
>
> >
> > goyang teru pik
>
> se.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Bukan tolol. Yg benar adalah kalo gereja udah bayar uang keamanan, maka mereka 
ga akan disambangi.

Cuma gua ga yakin bhw lu ngerti apa beda ocehan lu dgn omongan gua ini. Maklum, 
orang Islam itu terbukti akan kedunguannya.






From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 6:47:11 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

   
Oh gitu tha?
Artinya gereja-gereja yg ga disambangi sdh pd bayar uang keamanan?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Pasti tuh gereja2 ga bayar uang keamanan.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: widura a.widura@...
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 5:32:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
>
>
> Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
toleran...tapi
> kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang
kalo itu
> bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja berbuat seperti itu...
> -Original Message-
> From: "sunny" ambon@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
>
>
http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-j\
ombang
>
>
> FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51
> Muji Lestari
> Hits: 832
>
>
> KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa Timur
mengaku
> tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di gereja, pada
Minggu
> kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang anggota milisi
sipil FPI
> dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan, dari Persekutuan
Gereja dan
> Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang menyebutkan, warga tetap
khawatir meski
> gereja-gereja dijaga aparat kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama
ini FPI
> lebih banyak dikenal dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
>
> "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir,
cemas sehingga
> ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut ibadah. Takut dengan
adanya
> kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar Jombang. Kalau Jombang
saja
> mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari luar Jombang yang seakan -akan
sehingga
> acara mereka sudah membuat umat ini bertanya -tanya apakan kita ini
aman nggak
> dalam ibadah ini."
>
> Kemarin, ribuan orang mengenakan atribut kelompok milisi sipil FPI
membanjiri
> Jombang Jawa Timur. Mereka datang dari berbagai daerah untuk
menghadiri
> pengajian akbar FPI.
>
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>
>
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Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Nggak sadar dia kalo lagi pencitraan napsu terpendam. 
Sejak masuk sini kan ngomongnya soal selangkangan melulu. 

tem..item.., nggak kesian apa ama si uplik? 
Udah ada sebulan tuh si uplik nungging.. 

--- "widura"  wrote:

> Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 
> gini ?...
> -Original Message-
> From: item abu 
> 
> > Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang 
> > merkosa cewek kafir di Bangladesh.
> > 
> > Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam. 
> > Dan krn yg diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu 
> > merkosa demi auloh spy dpt pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn 
> > kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam yg soleh dan 
> > bertaqwa.
> >
> > Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex 
> > maniak, tukang siksa cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat 
> > lainnya.
> > 
> > 
> > http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members
> >
> > 
> > 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02
> > IANS, Apr 26, 2011, 02.00pm IST
> > Tags:
> > * Taslima Nasreen
> > DHAKA:  A judicial commission has concluded that over 200 Hindu 
> > women were raped following the 2001 parliamentary election, 
> > forcing many terrorized families to flee the country.
> > The acts were allegedly committed  by cadres of the Bangladesh 
> > Nationalist Party (BNP) and its ally  Jamaat-e-Islami who won the 
> > 2001 polls, the report said, citing the  involvement of many top 
> > leaders and lawmakers of the alliance that is  now in the 
> > opposition.
> > While the commission referred to the victims as "minority women", 
> > media reports of that period had identified them as Hindus.
> > With Begum Khaleda Zia as the prime minister, the BNP-Jamaat 
> > alliance ruled Bangladesh during 2001-06.
> > The violence went on for 15 months and "the barbarous act was 
> > intended  to force them to leave the country. They were, in the 
> > eyes of the  culprits, enemies as they voted for the Awami 
> > League", The Daily Star  said on Tuesday, quoting commission 
> > sources.
> > The commission  submitted the report to home minister Sahara 
> > Khatun. It lists 3,625  incidents of major crimes, including 
> > killing, rape, arson and looting.
> > Media reports at that time had detailed the plight of hundreds of 
> > Hindu families crossing over to India, forcing the Indian 
> > government to  express concern.
> > Bangladeshi poet Daud Hyder, who visited the camps in India where 
> > these families were lodged and wrote about it, was later charged 
> > with sedition and imprisoned.
> > The wave of violence was the subject of "Lajja" by novelist 
> > Taslima Nasreen, who angered the Islamists at home and was had to 
> > quit Bangladesh. She still remains exiled.
> > Many victims and their family members interviewed by the probe 
> > panel  narrated harrowing experiences, but said they did not 
> > lodge police  reports or undergo forensic tests for fear of 
> > inviting social stigma,  the report says.
> > Many victims and their family members across the country 
> > contacted the commission when it was conducting the probe.
> > According to the panel, it would be "tough or, to some extent,  
> > impossible" to continue the probe into the rape allegations "as 
> > the  victims themselves are unwilling to do the legal battle".
> > The  probe panel found that most of the gang rapes occurred in 
> > the country's southern part - Bhola, Barisal, Agoiljhara and 
> > Gaurnadi.
> > The  accused were acquitted for lack of witnesses. In some cases, 
> > police gave final reports while the names of the accused were 
> > dropped in over 500  cases out of the 3,625 major incidents.
> > With the passing of a  decade, some of the accused utilised "good > > 
> > connection with ruling Awami  League men", which forced the 
> > police to drop many cases, the media  report said.
> > The panel has named several BNP and Jamaat leaders for their 
> > involvement in the post-poll violence.
> 
> 
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Re: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Biasa, orang Islam itu emang ga kenal malu sama sekali, selalu ngibul demi 
auloh.

Udah jelas kalo ada ribuan orang mendadak berkeliaran di satu tempat itu akan 
bikin orang takut, apalagi kalo yg berkeliaran itu bersorban dan berjenggot 
panjang di sekitar gereja. 


Tp si ndeboost ini bilang seolah2 mereka itu mau jaga keamanan? Hehehe. 
jaga 
keamanan dr siapa, emangnya siapa yg ngancam gereja itu kalo bukannya orang 
Islam sendiri.

Sebaliknya, hehehe... orang Islam selalu merasa terancam kalo ada orang Islam 
jadi murtad ke Kristen, selalu takut kalo ada gereja berdiri, bahkan, takut 
ngeliat orang make kalung salib, padahal, ancaman apa yg ada dr orang murtad ke 
Kristen?

Kalo si rezameutia itu ngewakili orang Islam dlm ngefitnah, si ndeboost ini 
ngewakili orang Islam dlm acara muter lidah secara ga tau malu sama sekali. 
Betul2 muka tembok deh.






From: ndeboost 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 6:44:58 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

   
Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai ga
meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan damai
sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal) dijaga.

Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga salah
kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg liwat itu
FPI?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
>
> Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman
sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
berbuat seperti itu...
> -Original Message-
> From: "sunny" ambon@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47
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> FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51
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> KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa Timur
mengaku tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di gereja,
pada Minggu kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang anggota
milisi sipil FPI dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan, dari
Persekutuan Gereja dan Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang
menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir meski gereja-gereja dijaga aparat
kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini FPI lebih banyak dikenal
dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
>
> "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir,
cemas sehingga ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut ibadah.
Takut dengan adanya kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar
Jombang. Kalau Jombang saja mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari luar
Jombang yang seakan -akan sehingga acara mereka sudah membuat umat ini
bertanya -tanya apakan kita ini aman nggak dalam ibadah ini."
>
> Kemarin, ribuan orang mengenakan atribut kelompok milisi sipil FPI
membanjiri Jombang Jawa Timur. Mereka datang dari berbagai daerah untuk
menghadiri pengajian akbar FPI.
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Re: [proletar] pertanda, alamat, sign

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Hehe, lucu tuh Parto. Apalagi kalo pas latah 
jadi Ariel, kayaknya berharap banget ada yang latah 
jadi Luna. 

--- "rezameutia"  wrote:

> parto mah ngeluarin pistol karena latah.
> hehehe...
> 
> sekarang pistol yang paling ciamik merk nya glock buatan swiss. 
> kecil, ringan, nggak pernah macet dan akurasinya sangat baik.
> 
> (wah... pepe kartu merah).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- "suryana"  wrote:
>
> > FN ajah Boss biar rada seimbang dengan badan mah.
> > ( FN n Luger sama apa gak sih ? ), aku pernah sekali
> > nyoba pakai Magnum dirty harry, sekali berondong langsung
> > abis pelornya, ditegor sama yang punya pestol, aku balik nanya
> > targetnya kena gak, di bilang nge deret ke bawah dari otak sampai 
> > dagu hehehe..dah sampai mati aku gak mau pegang pestol 
> > beneran lagi bawaannya ntar jadi kayak Parto deh.
> > 
> > sur.
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "liver_duke" 
> > 
> > > btw, luger kok berkesan feminim yag? apa masih enak diumpetin
> > > di balik ketek? asal jangan colt aja apalagi versi revolver,
> > > saban gw ngebidik 10 pasti ada 4 yg nyasar padahal 50 meter.
> > >
> >
>






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Re: [proletar] lagi, mengkaji guru

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Itulah salahsatu bahaya dari pelembagaan agama. 
Konsekuensinya, bertabiat sebagaimana organisasi 
pada umumnya. Pengurusnya repot sama urusan 
pencitraan, anggotanya pontang-panting mengejar 
pujian pengurus. Supaya citra organisasinya 
keliatan baik maka perlu ada organisasi yang 
bercitra buruk. Jadilah saling buruk-memburukkan 
antarkelompok dengan iming-iming nebus dosa & 
masuk sorga segala macem. 

Kalau organisasi Vatikan punya struktur seperti itu 
ya saya batal aja dah jadiin Bu Teresa Paus yang 
sebenarnya. Ganti jadi Santo yang sebenarnya...:) 

--- "suryana"  wrote:

> BUnda Teresa menjadi ikon kontroversi Vatikan, karena tidak ada 
> ordo khusus perempuan yang bisa menjalankan sepetrti apa yang 
> diharapkan oleh Bunda Teresa, sehingga Vatikan menganggap kemauan 
> Bunda Teresa bisa merusak image Katholik Roma, yang selalu berusaha 
> untuk memberikan image yang baik ke masyarakat awam sedunia, dan 
> dikhawatirkan bila satu lolos akan timbul Bunda Tersea lainnya, ( 
> terbukti di India setelah wafatnya Bunda Teresa penerusnya 
> melakukan katholikisasi sehingga kena marah masyarakat setempat ).
> Dan menjadi diakui sebagai pribadi yang teguh dengan pendiriannya 
> oleh Vatikan sehingga tidak lagi di lepas begitu saja.
> Bunda Teresa didalam melakukan tugasnya tidak pernah membawa bawa 
> Katholik terhadap siapa yang dibantu nya , dengan demikian India 
> tidak ambil pusing malah akhirnya pusing sendiri karena tidak ada 
> celah untuk menolak kehadiran Bunda Teresa.
> CMMIIW
> 
> Ps Paus yang sebenarnya tetap Paus yang sekarang, yang sebelumnya 
> akan menjadi Santo tinggal 1 tahap lagi, bila ada mukjijat 
> kesembuhan karena berdoa kepada Allah/Bapa, Yesus dan Paus 
> Yohannes, untuk permintaan doa yang lain konon sudah banyak yang 
> cespleng, sehingga tinggal setapak lagi menjadi Santo, Santo 
> maksudnya menjadi orang suci, dan hal ini memang tidak mudah, 
> tidak semua Paus menjadi Santo.
> Ada pula yang langsung menjadi Santo ketika meninggal , semua 
> atergantung mal baik nya ketika memimpin Katholik.
> 
> sur.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "ajeg" 
> 
> > Bunda Teresa, hmmm... biarawati paling cakep.
> > Seperti itulah harusnya "mempelai" Yesus.
> > Bagi saya, Bu Teresa adalah Paus yang sebenarnya..
> >
> > Bisa cerita lebih jauh tentang beliauwati,
> > terutama seputar pertikaiannya dengan Vatikan
> > (dan biarawati-biarawati tukang ngerumpi)?
> > Atau, kenapa Vatikan baru menerima / mengakui
> > Bu Teresa setelah dia sukses & populer dengan
> > ordonya sendiri.
> >
> > Bagus, sampeyan bawa contoh yang bagus untuk
> > topik ini. Bu Teresa & Gus Dur saya kira bukan
> > serius-seriusan berkristen-ria dan berislam-ria,
> > tapi betul-betul sekedar beragama. Bermanusia
> > yang baik & benar tanpa mau pusing dengan label.
> >
> > Sedangkan para tolol yang sok beragama, seolah
> > paling cs sama tuhan, tentu bukan cuma DR Azahari
> > & Amrozy cs serta Rinaldy Damanik & Antonius
> > Bawengan cs. Tapi juga bisa siapa saja yang tolol
> > dan terus-menerus memperbodoh dirinya. Bukan begitu?
> >
> > Begitu bukan?
>






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Re: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik widura
Koq ente dapet aja ya berita soal perkosaan, perampokan model2 gini ?...
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Subject: [proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang merkosa cewek 
kafir 
di Bangladesh.

Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam. Dan krn yg 
diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu merkosa demi auloh spy dpt 
pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang 
Islam yg soleh dan bertaqwa.

Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex maniak, tukang siksa 
cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat lainnya.


http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members


'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02
IANS, Apr 26, 2011, 02.00pm IST
Tags:
* Taslima Nasreen
DHAKA:  A judicial commission has concluded that over 200 Hindu women were  
raped following the 2001 parliamentary election, forcing many terrorized  
families to flee the country.
The acts were allegedly committed  by cadres of the Bangladesh Nationalist 
Party 
(BNP) and its ally  Jamaat-e-Islami who won the 2001 polls, the report said, 
citing the  involvement of many top leaders and lawmakers of the alliance that 
is  now in the opposition.
While the commission referred to the victims as "minority women", media reports 
of that period had identified them as Hindus.
With Begum Khaleda Zia as the prime minister, the BNP-Jamaat alliance ruled 
Bangladesh during 2001-06.
The violence went on for 15 months and "the barbarous act was intended  to 
force 
them to leave the country. They were, in the eyes of the  culprits, enemies as 
they voted for the Awami League", The Daily Star  said on Tuesday, quoting 
commission sources.
The commission  submitted the report to home minister Sahara Khatun. It lists 
3,625  incidents of major crimes, including killing, rape, arson and looting.
Media reports at that time had detailed the plight of hundreds of Hindu  
families crossing over to India, forcing the Indian government to  express 
concern.
Bangladeshi poet Daud Hyder, who visited the camps in India where these 
families 
were lodged and wrote about it, was later charged with sedition and imprisoned.
The wave of violence was the subject of "Lajja" by novelist Taslima Nasreen, 
who 
angered the Islamists at home and was had to quit Bangladesh. She still remains 
exiled.
Many victims and their family members interviewed by the probe panel  narrated 
harrowing experiences, but said they did not lodge police  reports or undergo 
forensic tests for fear of inviting social stigma,  the report says.
Many victims and their family members across the country contacted the 
commission when it was conducting the probe.
According to the panel, it would be "tough or, to some extent,  impossible" to 
continue the probe into the rape allegations "as the  victims themselves are 
unwilling to do the legal battle".
The  probe panel found that most of the gang rapes occurred in the country's  
southern part - Bhola, Barisal, Agoiljhara and Gaurnadi.
The  accused were acquitted for lack of witnesses. In some cases, police gave  
final reports while the names of the accused were dropped in over 500  cases 
out 
of the 3,625 major incidents.
With the passing of a  decade, some of the accused utilised "good connection 
with ruling Awami  League men", which forced the police to drop many cases, the 
media  report said.
The panel has named several BNP and Jamaat leaders for their involvement in the 
post-poll violence.


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Re: [proletar] Pakistan: Christians arrested on false Qur'an-burning charges, released, then rearrested "to avert further violence"

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Itu sih cuma alasan aja, yg benar adalah korban ditangkap bolak balik krn 
Kristen.






From: widura 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [proletar] Pakistan: Christians arrested on false Qur'an-burning 
charges, released, then rearrested "to avert further violence"

   
Ckckck...supaya ngga ada kerusuhan lalu korban fitnah ditangkap lagi 
??...mungkin akibat malu karena memfitnah ... 

-Original Message- 
From: item abu  
Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:34:59 
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Subject: [proletar] Pakistan: Christians arrested on false Qur'an-burning 
charges, released, then rearrested "to avert further violence" 


Hehehe orang Kristen ditangkap krn difitnah, udah dibebaskan, lalu 
ditangkap 

lagi dgn alasan spy ga ada kerusuhan krn fitnah tsb. 

Emang Islam itu agama yg benar unt para bajingan keparat bukan, ngefitnah, 
bikin 

rusuh, ngerampok, merkosa dll, tetap aja yg ditangkap orang lain, bukan orang 
Islam. 



Pakistan: Christians arrested on false Qur'an-burning charges, released, then 
rearrested "to avert further violence" 
Police said they had no other option but to rearrest them  -- for otherwise, 
Muslims would run amok and murder even more innocent  people. "Pakistani 
Christians Held After Blasphemy Riots," by Success  Kanayo Uchime for 
AllVoices, 

April 26: 
It has been reported that two Christians from Punjab,  Pakistan are in 
protective custody after blasphemy accusations against  them sparked violent 
riots. 

>Release International, an United Kingdom (U.K) (www.releaseinternational.org) 
>based Christian advocacy group which stated this said a furious mob  began 
>attacking Christian homes in Aziz Colony, Gujranwala, after a  father and son 
>accused of burning the Koran were released by police. 
>It noted that Police said they had no option but to re-arrest  Pastor Mushtaq 
>Gill and his son, Farrukh, to avert further violence. 
>In statement a Release partner the Centre for Legal Aid Assistance  and 
>Settlement (CLAAS) said the attacks, on April 15, prompted hundreds  of 
>Christians in the area to flee their homes, fearing a repeat of the  attack on 
>Gojra, also in Punjab, in August 2009. “Seven Christians were  killed in the 
>Gojra raid, which was also prompted by blasphemy  allegations.” 
>It observed that Pastor Mushtaq is a teacher at the Christian  Technical 
>Training Centre of Gujranwala; Farrukh works for a bank. CLAAS  reports that 
>the 
>
>pair was falsely accused about four months ago when  burnt pages of the Koran 
>were found near their house. 
>Quoting Compass Direct news service, it said that since the riots,  the police 
>have charged the pair under Pakistan's blasphemy laws and are  holding them at 
>an undisclosed location. Police said that a case was  registered for the 
>Christians' own safetyPosted by Robert on April 27, 2011  7:48 AM  | 8 
>Comments 
> 


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[proletar] 'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe kader BNP dan Jamaat-e-Islami itu ternyata tukang merkosa cewek 
kafir 
di Bangladesh.

Dr namanya, kita tau bhw tukang merkosa itu adalah orang Islam. Dan krn yg 
diperkosa itu khususnya kafir, tentunya mereka itu merkosa demi auloh spy dpt 
pahala jihad merkosa dr auloh, dgn kata lain, tukang merkosa itu adalah orang 
Islam yg soleh dan bertaqwa.

Islam itu kan agama yg benar unt pemerkosa, pedophile, sex maniak, tukang siksa 
cewek dan segala macam bajingan keparat lainnya.


http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-26/south-asia/29474228_1_probe-panel-judicial-commission-family-members


'Minority women' gang raped in Bangladesh in 2001-02
IANS, Apr 26, 2011, 02.00pm IST
Tags:
* Taslima Nasreen
DHAKA:  A judicial commission has concluded that over 200 Hindu women were  
raped following the 2001 parliamentary election, forcing many terrorized  
families to flee the country.
The acts were allegedly committed  by cadres of the Bangladesh Nationalist 
Party 
(BNP) and its ally  Jamaat-e-Islami who won the 2001 polls, the report said, 
citing the  involvement of many top leaders and lawmakers of the alliance that 
is  now in the opposition.
While the commission referred to the victims as "minority women", media reports 
of that period had identified them as Hindus.
With Begum Khaleda Zia as the prime minister, the BNP-Jamaat alliance ruled 
Bangladesh during 2001-06.
The violence went on for 15 months and "the barbarous act was intended  to 
force 
them to leave the country. They were, in the eyes of the  culprits, enemies as 
they voted for the Awami League", The Daily Star  said on Tuesday, quoting 
commission sources.
The commission  submitted the report to home minister Sahara Khatun. It lists 
3,625  incidents of major crimes, including killing, rape, arson and looting.
Media reports at that time had detailed the plight of hundreds of Hindu  
families crossing over to India, forcing the Indian government to  express 
concern.
Bangladeshi poet Daud Hyder, who visited the camps in India where these 
families 
were lodged and wrote about it, was later charged with sedition and imprisoned.
The wave of violence was the subject of "Lajja" by novelist Taslima Nasreen, 
who 
angered the Islamists at home and was had to quit Bangladesh. She still remains 
exiled.
Many victims and their family members interviewed by the probe panel  narrated 
harrowing experiences, but said they did not lodge police  reports or undergo 
forensic tests for fear of inviting social stigma,  the report says.
Many victims and their family members across the country contacted the 
commission when it was conducting the probe.
According to the panel, it would be "tough or, to some extent,  impossible" to 
continue the probe into the rape allegations "as the  victims themselves are 
unwilling to do the legal battle".
The  probe panel found that most of the gang rapes occurred in the country's  
southern part - Bhola, Barisal, Agoiljhara and Gaurnadi.
The  accused were acquitted for lack of witnesses. In some cases, police gave  
final reports while the names of the accused were dropped in over 500  cases 
out 
of the 3,625 major incidents.
With the passing of a  decade, some of the accused utilised "good connection 
with ruling Awami  League men", which forced the police to drop many cases, the 
media  report said.
The panel has named several BNP and Jamaat leaders for their involvement in the 
post-poll violence.


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Re: [proletar] Pakistan: Christians arrested on false Qur'an-burning charges, released, then rearrested "to avert further violence"

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik widura
Ckckck...supaya ngga ada kerusuhan lalu korban fitnah ditangkap lagi 
??...mungkin akibat malu karena memfitnah ...
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From: item abu 
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:34:59 
To: 
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Subject: [proletar] Pakistan: Christians arrested on false Qur'an-burning 
charges, released, then rearrested "to avert further violence"

Hehehe orang Kristen ditangkap krn difitnah, udah dibebaskan, lalu 
ditangkap 
lagi dgn alasan spy ga ada kerusuhan krn fitnah tsb.

Emang Islam itu agama yg benar unt para bajingan keparat bukan, ngefitnah, 
bikin 
rusuh, ngerampok, merkosa dll, tetap aja yg ditangkap orang lain, bukan orang 
Islam.



Pakistan: Christians arrested on false Qur'an-burning charges, released, then 
rearrested "to avert further violence"
Police said they had no other option but to rearrest them  -- for otherwise, 
Muslims would run amok and murder even more innocent  people. "Pakistani 
Christians Held After Blasphemy Riots," by Success  Kanayo Uchime for 
AllVoices, 
April 26:
It has been reported that two Christians from Punjab,  Pakistan are in 
protective custody after blasphemy accusations against  them sparked violent 
riots. 

>Release International, an United Kingdom (U.K) (www.releaseinternational.org)  
>based Christian advocacy group which stated this said a furious mob  began 
>attacking Christian homes in Aziz Colony, Gujranwala, after a  father and son 
>accused of burning the Koran were released by police.
>It noted that Police said they had no option but to re-arrest  Pastor Mushtaq 
>Gill and his son, Farrukh, to avert further violence.
>In statement a Release partner the Centre for Legal Aid Assistance  and 
>Settlement (CLAAS) said the attacks, on April 15, prompted hundreds  of 
>Christians in the area to flee their homes, fearing a repeat of the  attack on 
>Gojra, also in Punjab, in August 2009. “Seven Christians were  killed in the 
>Gojra raid, which was also prompted by blasphemy  allegations.”
>It observed that Pastor Mushtaq is a teacher at the Christian  Technical 
>Training Centre of Gujranwala; Farrukh works for a bank. CLAAS  reports that 
>the 
>pair was falsely accused about four months ago when  burnt pages of the Koran 
>were found near their house.
>Quoting Compass Direct news service, it said that since the riots,  the police 
>have charged the pair under Pakistan's blasphemy laws and are  holding them at 
>an undisclosed location. Police said that a case was  registered for the 
>Christians' own safetyPosted by Robert on April 27, 2011  7:48 AM  | 8 
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[proletar] Ethiopia: Muslims beat evangelist to death, assault his pregnant wife

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Tentunya orang yg ngebantai orang Kristen ini adalah orang Islam yg  soleh, 
pejihad fi sabililah yg lagi ngumpulin pahala jihad spy bisa dpt  72 bidadari 
perawan abadi yg teteknya gede2 dan pemuda2 cantik unt bisa  saling sodomi.

Kalo bukan orang Islam yg soleh yg lagi nurutin ajaran islam, apalagi  alasan 
ngegebukin orang Kristen sampe mati dan jg nyerang cewek hamil?

Sama dgn yg ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah, nelanjangi lalu terus ngegebukin  orang 
Ahmadiyah yg udah mati itu, mereka itu kan orang2 Islam yg soleh  yg ngegebukin 
orang mati dgn diiringi sorakan auloh akbar.

Indahnya Islam itu, hehehe


Ethiopia: Muslims beat evangelist to death, assault his pregnant wife
One might almost get the idea that the Religion of  Tolerance has something 
against non-Muslims proselytizing. Naaah,  couldn't be. These guys must just be 
Misunderstanders of Islam. "Four  Ethiopian Muslims Beat Evangelist To Death, 
Assault His Pregnant Wife,"  from International Christian Concern, April 26 
(thanks to AINA):
Washington, D.C. (April 26, 2011)–International Christian  Concern (ICC) has 
learned that on April 21 four Muslims beat an  evangelist to death and 
assaulted 
his pregnant wife in Worabe, Ethiopia,  an area that is 97% Muslim. 

>The Muslims lured Evangelist Abraham Abera from Kale Hiwot Church at  9:30 
>p.m. 
>telling him that his friend was sick and needed immediate  attention. Abraham 
>left with the men; they turned on him and began to  beat him with rods. The 
>minister’s pregnant wife, Birtukan, saw the men  attack her husband and ran to 
>intervene, but the Muslims beat her as  well.
In using deception to lure Abraham to his death, these Muslims were  imitating 
Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, who once took offense to Ka'b  bin Al-Ashraf, a 
poet who had mocked him, and asked his followers: "Who  is willing to kill Ka'b 
bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His  Apostle?" One of the Muslims, 
Muhammad 
bin Maslama answered, "O Allah's  Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" 
When 
Muhammad said that he  would, Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say 
a 
(false) thing  (i.e. to deceive Kab)." Muhammad responded: "You may say it." 
Muhammad  bin Maslama duly lied to Ka'b, luring him into his trap, and murdered 
 
him. (Bukhari, volume 5, book 59, number 369)
Abraham died on the spot and his wife, who sustained a  severe head injury, was 
left unconscious in the street. She was found  and taken to a hospital in 
Butajira, where she regained consciousness on  April 22nd and was able to 
recount the details of the attack. 

>Birtukan spoke with an ICC source and said she knew two of the  attackers. She 
>said as the Muslims were beating her and her husband,  they told them, “You 
>(Christians) are growing in number in our area. You are spreading your message 
>(the gospel). We will destroy you.”...Posted by Robert on April 27, 2011  5:35 
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[proletar] Pakistan: Christians arrested on false Qur'an-burning charges, released, then rearrested "to avert further violence"

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe orang Kristen ditangkap krn difitnah, udah dibebaskan, lalu 
ditangkap 
lagi dgn alasan spy ga ada kerusuhan krn fitnah tsb.

Emang Islam itu agama yg benar unt para bajingan keparat bukan, ngefitnah, 
bikin 
rusuh, ngerampok, merkosa dll, tetap aja yg ditangkap orang lain, bukan orang 
Islam.



Pakistan: Christians arrested on false Qur'an-burning charges, released, then 
rearrested "to avert further violence"
Police said they had no other option but to rearrest them  -- for otherwise, 
Muslims would run amok and murder even more innocent  people. "Pakistani 
Christians Held After Blasphemy Riots," by Success  Kanayo Uchime for 
AllVoices, 
April 26:
It has been reported that two Christians from Punjab,  Pakistan are in 
protective custody after blasphemy accusations against  them sparked violent 
riots. 

>Release International, an United Kingdom (U.K) (www.releaseinternational.org)  
>based Christian advocacy group which stated this said a furious mob  began 
>attacking Christian homes in Aziz Colony, Gujranwala, after a  father and son 
>accused of burning the Koran were released by police.
>It noted that Police said they had no option but to re-arrest  Pastor Mushtaq 
>Gill and his son, Farrukh, to avert further violence.
>In statement a Release partner the Centre for Legal Aid Assistance  and 
>Settlement (CLAAS) said the attacks, on April 15, prompted hundreds  of 
>Christians in the area to flee their homes, fearing a repeat of the  attack on 
>Gojra, also in Punjab, in August 2009. “Seven Christians were  killed in the 
>Gojra raid, which was also prompted by blasphemy  allegations.”
>It observed that Pastor Mushtaq is a teacher at the Christian  Technical 
>Training Centre of Gujranwala; Farrukh works for a bank. CLAAS  reports that 
>the 
>pair was falsely accused about four months ago when  burnt pages of the Koran 
>were found near their house.
>Quoting Compass Direct news service, it said that since the riots,  the police 
>have charged the pair under Pakistan's blasphemy laws and are  holding them at 
>an undisclosed location. Police said that a case was  registered for the 
>Christians' own safetyPosted by Robert on April 27, 2011  7:48 AM  | 8 
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[proletar] Orang Islam lebih rendah dr anjing

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe... di sini kita lihat gimana orang Islam ngegigit tangan yg ngasih makan 
mereka.

Padahal anjing aja ga gitu, anjing gua misalnya, biar gua masukin tangan  gua 
ke 
mulut anjing gua, si anjing itu ga ngegigit tangan gua. 


Emang orang Islam itu lebih rendah dr anjing atau babi.


"We urge all Muslims to stay away from the royal wedding...because of the 
likelihood of an attack by the Mujahideen"
Come on in and make yourselves at home, fellows. What could possibly go wrong? 
Notice the grievance-mongering. Assad Ullah is situating any  potential attack 
within the Islamic theological framework of defensive  jihad.
"Muslim group claims royal wedding is legitimate terror target," by Victoria 
Ward in the Telegraph, April 27 (thanks to all who sent this in):
The royal wedding is a “legitimate target” for a terrorist  attack because of 
Britain’s foreign policy and the invasion of Iraq and  Afghanistan, a radical 
Islamic group has claimed. 

>Muslims Against Crusades, which had its application to protest on  Friday 
>turned 
>down by police, yesterday urged Muslims to stay away from  central London when 
>Prince William marries Kate Middleton and to avoid  all means of public 
>transport due to the heightened risk of an attack.
>Assad Ullah, leader of the extremist campaign group, insisted that it  had no 
>“inside knowledge” but was simply repeating security fears that  have already 
>been widely reported.
>“There is a legitimate Islam opinion that those who have been attacked have 
>the 
>right to retaliate,” he said.
"To those against whom war is made, permission is given to fight),  because 
they 
are wronged; and verily, Allah is most powerful for their  aid." -- Qur'an 
22:39 

“British foreign policy is causing this kind of feeling and  increasing the 
instability in this country. We do not advocate violence  but can see how they 
made themselves a legitimate target for others.” 

>Announcing that the group had abandoned its plans to protest against  the 
>wedding, group spokesman Abu Abbas said: “We urge all Muslims to  stay away 
>from 
>the royal wedding, not only because of the drinking, drug  taking and sexual 
>promiscuity but because of the likelihood of an  attack by the Mujahideen.
>"We urge all Muslims to stay away from public places and all public  
>transport, 
>trains, buses and tubes around central London.”...
>Abbas said: "The killing of Muslims, the raping of Muslim women and  the 
>imprisonment of Muslims are increasing the instability in this  country.
>"We will not be participating and demonstrating, we are withdrawing  our souls 
>due to the risk of an attack. We believe it is highly likely,  it is a prime 
>target.
>“Many people feel that they have been oppressed and have a score to  settle 
>with 
>the Royal Family. We can see why they see them as a  legitimate target.”
>As the group accused the Royal Family of being responsible for war  crimes, 
>onlookers shouted: “You're all on benefits anyway” and “Long  live the Queen”.
>One of the Muslims retorted: "You paid for this camera, you pay for my 
>benefits, 
>you're basically my slave."...
Indeed. That's how the jizya works.Posted by Robert on April 27, 2011  9:02 AM  
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[proletar] The eunuch for jihad

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik item abu
Hehehe... pejihad Islam ini demi auloh mau bikin diri sendiri jadi impoten.

Gua rasa ini pasti krn ga ada PSK, maka si pejihad ini mau ngebiri sendiri, 
kalo 
ada, kan tinggal ngembat PSK spt ajaran nabi.

Maklum, orang Islam itu emang gila sex, dimulai dr nabi Islam sampe ke orang 
Islam di jaman ini.

Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 139:   
Narrated Abdullah: 
>We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet and   we 
>had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet ). "Shall   we 
>castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet forbade us to do that and   
>thenceforth 
>he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her  even a 
>garment, 
>and then he recited:  "O you who believe! Do not make   unlawful the good 
>things which Allah has made lawful for you." Islam itu emang agama yg benar 
>unt 
>tukang bunuh dan sex maniak, masalahnya itu cuma ada satu, kadang ceweknya aja 
>ga tersedia, jadi kepaksa deh jadi kasim, hehehe..

Saran gua buat orang2 Islam plus habe di milis ini, kalo udah ga ketahan, drpd 
ngeloco di milis ini, mendingan jadi kasim aja deh.


The eunuch for jihad
Soft jihadist

For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs  who 
have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made  themselves 
eunuchs for the sake of murdering infidels.
"Al-Qaeda leader put jihad before a sex life," by Holly Watt in the Telegraph, 
April 26 (thanks to all who sent this in):
One of the most senior members of al-Qaeda held at  Guantánamo took injections 
“to promote impotence” to avoid being  “distracted” by women, according to 
evidence uncovered by investigators. 

>Abd al-Rahim Hussein Muhammad Abdah al-Nashiri, a Saudi Arabian, was  said to 
>have reported directly to Osama bin Laden. His interrogators  reported: 
>“Detainee is so dedicated to jihad that he reportedly received  injections to 
>promote impotence and recommended the injections to  others.”
>He received the injections “so more time could be spent on jihad – rather than 
>being distracted by women”.
>According to the notes, al-Nashiri was allegedly “the senior  operative” in 
>the 
>attack on USS Cole, an American destroyer, in October  2000. Seventeen US 
>sailors were killed in the suicide attack in a Yemeni  port, while dozens were 
>injuredPosted by Robert on April 27, 2011 10:27 AM  | 26 Comments 
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[proletar] ndeboost contoh orang Islam yang keteteran dan sudah terkapar tidak bisa .

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Setelah terkapar dihadapan orang kafir seperti "great pretender" dan
"sebuah kenyataan" yang dengan telak berhasil membuktikan bahwa buku
taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikannya kitab suci 
TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene
tidak berbukti ada - dan tidak berkutik dihadapan 'item abu" yang
menunjukkan secara terperinci betapa dungunya, betapa buasnya, betapa
zalimnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa biadabnya ajaran agama taik anjing
Islam itu, maka ndeboost yang dungu kayak babi itu cuma sanggup nongol di 
mailing list ini sekedar kaing-kaing kayak anjing kena pentung  untuk 
menunjukkan betapa dungunya, betapa busuknya dan betapa nistanya fikirannya.

ndeboost sedang gesit-gesitnya membuktikan bahwa apa yang dikatakan oleh "item 
abu" itu benar adanya: ajaran agama Islam itu membikin penganutnya jadi manusia 
dungu kayak babi.







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[proletar] Re: NATO jets stop attack on rebel-held port in Libya

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
"ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...

Dia sudah keteteran dan nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi mùenyilaukan 
yang disampaikan oleh orang kafir di mailing list ini, yaitu bahwa buku taik 
anjing yang dijadikannnya kitab suci itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah, lantas dia 
cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar unjuk 
isi otaknya yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> Hooh.
> Gantian uji coba "predator"
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
> >
> > http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article374955.ece
> >
> > NATO jets stop attack on rebel-held port in Libya
> >
> > Burned cars are seen next a plume of black smoke in the port of
> Misrata, Libya, on Wednesday after an airstrike by NATO jets to stop an
> attack by Muammar Qaddafi's forces. (AP)
> >
> > By BEN HUBBARD | AP
> >
> > Published: Apr 27, 2011 19:08 Updated: Apr 27, 2011 20:39
> >
> > MISRATA, Libya: NATO warplanes pounded forces loyal to Libyan leader
> Moaamar Qaddafi attacking the rebel-held city of Misrata, blasting
> fighting vehicles advancing on the port that serves as the besieged
> city's sole lifeline, a NATO spokeswoman said on Wednesday.
> >
> > The battle for Misrata has become the focal point of the uprising
> against Qaddafi's regime, and the near-constant shelling of the city by
> government troops over the past two months has spurred calls for more
> forceful international intervention to stop the bloodshed.
> >
> > The alliance airstrike, which took place Tuesday night and sent giant
> plumes of smoke into the air, helped repulse Qaddafi's forces attack on
> the city's vital port complex, alliance spokeswoman Carmen Romero said.
> >
> > "NATO forces moved quickly to break up a force advancing on Misrata
> port," Romero said. "Several NATO aircraft were directed to the area,
> and following careful assessment of the risk to civilians, our pilots
> struck." Damage assessments showed that six military vehicles and seven
> "technicals" - civilian trucks equipped with machine guns or rocket
> launchers - were hit. One surface-to-air missile site near Misrata was
> also destroyed, she said.
> >
> > On Wednesday, the port bore signs of the ferocity of the shelling.
> >
> > Rockets had blasted gaping holes in the roofs of two warehouses, and
> blown out the windows of another building.
> >
> > A pillar of black smoke from a burning heap of tires ignited by the
> bombardment billowed over the port, and nearby the charred shells of
> some 250 brand new cars, all torched in the shelling, smoldered.
> >
> > With Qaddafi's troops besieging the city on all sides by land, the
> port has become a key point in the battle for Misrata, and the assault
> by pro-Qaddafi forces Tuesday temporarily suspended the flow of aid and
> people.
> >
> > The Albanian passenger ferry Red Star 1 carrying aid and two
> ambulances was forced to spend the night at sea, and only docked late
> Wednesday morning. Workers unloaded its 10 containers of aid and
> prepared to take on refugees looking to flee the battered city.
> >
> > The Libyan government has denied that it engages in indiscriminate
> shelling of civilian population centers.
> >
> > The United Nations Security Council used evidence of attacks on
> civilians as grounds for its resolution authorizing an international
> campaign of airstrikes against Qaddafi's forces which has neutralized
> much of their heavy weapons and staved off total rebel defeat in the
> east.
> >
> > British Defense Minister Liam Fox said Tuesday that the airstrikes
> have helped put the regime on its "back foot" and aided the rebels in
> making progress, though for the past weeks, there has been little
> movement on any of the war's fronts.
> >
> > "There is little doubt across the alliance that this key contribution
> has proven to be of immense value protecting civilians in Misrata and
> have helped opposition forces to defend themselves against this brutal
> regime there," he said.
> >
> > Maj. Gen. John Lorimer, British military spokesman, said British
> fighter jets destroyed a battle tank, eight support vehicles and a
> surface-to-air missile facility in airstrikes around Misrata on Saturday
> and Sunday. Eight rocket launcher vehicles were also damaged and three
> armored personal carriers targeted.
> >
> > British jets also flew sorties on Monday around Brega and Ajdabiya,
> and Yafran, firing on a tank near Mizda and a self-propelled gun close
> to Yafran, Lorimer said.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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[proletar] Re: Orang Islam muncul sekedar membuktikan bahwa mereka itu

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
"ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...

Dia sudah keteteran dan nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi mùenyilaukan 
yang disampaikan oleh orang kafir di mailing list ini, yaitu bahwa buku taik 
anjing yang dijadikannnya kitab suci itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah, lantas dia 
cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar unjuk 
isi otaknya yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> Hanya karena BS sak uplik lalu ganti akal ya Pak?
> Maklum  dari (pucuk) perancis ke Paris
> dari langgar ke V-park
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Setelah terkapar dihadapan orang kafir seperti "great pretender" dan
> "sebuah kenyataan" yang dengan telak berhasil membuktikan bahwa buku
> taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikan kitab suci oleh orang Islam yang
> dungu-dungu kayak babi itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene
> tidak berbukti ada - dan tidak berkutik dihadapan 'item abu" yang
> menunjukkan secara terperinci betapa dungunya, betapa buasnya, betapa
> zalimnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa biadabnya ajaran agama taik anjing
> Islam itu, maka orang Islam yang masih sanggup nongol cuma bisa
> kaing-kaing kayak anjing kena pentung sekedar untuk menunjukkan betapa
> dungunya, betapa busuknya dan betapa nistanya fikiran mereka atau betapa
> biadabnya, betapa bengisnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa zalimnya adab
> mereka itu.
> >
> > Mereka sedang berebut membuktikan bahwa apa yang dikatakan oleh "item
> abu" itu benar adanya: ajaran agama Islam itu membikin penganutnya jadi
> manusia dungu, buas, zalim, kejam, keji, ganas, buas lagi biadab.
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu ("ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...)

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
"ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...

Dia sudah keteteran dan nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi mùenyilaukan 
yang disampaikan oleh orang kafir di mailing list ini, yaitu bahwa buku taik 
anjing yang dijadikannnya kitab suci itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah, lantas dia 
cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar unjuk 
isi otaknya yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> Karena BS sak upliak ganti akal ya Pak?
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > "ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...
> >
> > Dia sudah keteteran dan nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi
> mùenyilaukan yang disampaikan oleh orang kafir di mailing list ini,
> yaitu bahwa buku taik anjing yang dijadikannnya kitab suci itu TIDAK
> berisi wahyu Allah, lantas dia cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru
> dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar unjuk isi otaknya yang busuk, nista
> lagi menjijikkan.
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Makanya saya bilang kamu ngga becus menghubungkannya dalam kasus
> itu.
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: rambitesemak@
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:37:33
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > >
> > > "Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU
> > > yg katanya toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?
> > > ...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo itu
> > > bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> > > berbuat seperti itu..."
> > >
> > > Siapa yg nulis diatas? Apa hubungannya NU vs FPI?
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yg pertama, saya bukan ngopas, tapi memberi komentar postingan
> > > sebelumnya...paham ?...yg kedua, yg saya bilang adalah kamu yg ngga
> > > becus ngaitin hubungan NU dgn jombang dan toleransinya seperti yg
> saya
> > > maksud, jadi bukan mungkir apa yg sudah saya tulis sebelumnya...yg
> > > ketiga, apa penyebab sampai siaga 1 ? Kondisi aman yg orang ngga
> perlu
> > > takut adalah tidak pakai siaga2 an...polisi sudah memberikan status
> > > demikian artinya FPI memang menjadi ancaman keamanan...paham ???
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:21
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > >
> > > > Loh kalau ngopas ya sedikit mikirlah, siap kalau ada yg ngerespon
> > > gitu.
> > > > He he he kok lalu ngatain nDeboost.. yg nyangkut-nyangkutin dg NU.
> nT
> > > > baca sendirilah.
> > > >
> > > > Ada rombongan liwat kok sdh gimana gitu.
> > > >
> > > > Lah wong sdh di deklarasikan Siaga-1 nT masih khawatir? Jadi apa
> > > > kelebihan deklarasi ini kalau nT pada ga reti?
> > > >
> > > > Btw, OOT
> > > > nurut imannya (CMIIW) crosstian kan kalau terjadi sesuatu dg
> mereka
> > > > langsung terselamatkan? Apa disono ga enak?
> > > >
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bego banget sih...udah ketahuan ada link beritanya pake nanya
> tau
> > > dari
> > > > manaFPI emang menakutkan koq..apanya yg salah kalo tu orang
> > > kristen
> > > > ketakutan ?nah kamu ngaitin NU dgn Jombang dan toleransi yg
> > > > dibangun-nya  aja ngga becusngga tau juga nih antara oon
> beneran
> > > > atau pura pura...
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:44:58
> > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > > >
> > > > > Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai
> ga
> > > > > meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
> > > > > Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan
> damai
> > > > > sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal)
> dijaga.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
> > > > > menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga
> > > salah
> > > > > kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg
> liwat
> > > > itu
> > > > > FPI?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
> > > > > toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi
> sekali...paling
> > > > aman
> > > > > sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan
> saja
> > > > > berbuat seperti itu...
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: "sunny" ambon@
> > > > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Dat

[proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu ("ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...)

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
"ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...

Dia sudah keteteran dan nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi mùenyilaukan 
yang disampaikan oleh orang kafir di mailing list ini, yaitu bahwa buku taik 
anjing yang dijadikannnya kitab suci itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah, lantas dia 
cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar unjuk 
isi otaknya yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> Karena BS sak upliak ganti akal ya Pak?
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > "ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...
> >
> > Dia sudah keteteran dan nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi
> mùenyilaukan yang disampaikan oleh orang kafir di mailing list ini,
> yaitu bahwa buku taik anjing yang dijadikannnya kitab suci itu TIDAK
> berisi wahyu Allah, lantas dia cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru
> dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar unjuk isi otaknya yang busuk, nista
> lagi menjijikkan.
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Makanya saya bilang kamu ngga becus menghubungkannya dalam kasus
> itu.
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: rambitesemak@
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:37:33
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > >
> > > "Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU
> > > yg katanya toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?
> > > ...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo itu
> > > bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> > > berbuat seperti itu..."
> > >
> > > Siapa yg nulis diatas? Apa hubungannya NU vs FPI?
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yg pertama, saya bukan ngopas, tapi memberi komentar postingan
> > > sebelumnya...paham ?...yg kedua, yg saya bilang adalah kamu yg ngga
> > > becus ngaitin hubungan NU dgn jombang dan toleransinya seperti yg
> saya
> > > maksud, jadi bukan mungkir apa yg sudah saya tulis sebelumnya...yg
> > > ketiga, apa penyebab sampai siaga 1 ? Kondisi aman yg orang ngga
> perlu
> > > takut adalah tidak pakai siaga2 an...polisi sudah memberikan status
> > > demikian artinya FPI memang menjadi ancaman keamanan...paham ???
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:21
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > >
> > > > Loh kalau ngopas ya sedikit mikirlah, siap kalau ada yg ngerespon
> > > gitu.
> > > > He he he kok lalu ngatain nDeboost.. yg nyangkut-nyangkutin dg NU.
> nT
> > > > baca sendirilah.
> > > >
> > > > Ada rombongan liwat kok sdh gimana gitu.
> > > >
> > > > Lah wong sdh di deklarasikan Siaga-1 nT masih khawatir? Jadi apa
> > > > kelebihan deklarasi ini kalau nT pada ga reti?
> > > >
> > > > Btw, OOT
> > > > nurut imannya (CMIIW) crosstian kan kalau terjadi sesuatu dg
> mereka
> > > > langsung terselamatkan? Apa disono ga enak?
> > > >
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bego banget sih...udah ketahuan ada link beritanya pake nanya
> tau
> > > dari
> > > > manaFPI emang menakutkan koq..apanya yg salah kalo tu orang
> > > kristen
> > > > ketakutan ?nah kamu ngaitin NU dgn Jombang dan toleransi yg
> > > > dibangun-nya  aja ngga becusngga tau juga nih antara oon
> beneran
> > > > atau pura pura...
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:44:58
> > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > > >
> > > > > Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai
> ga
> > > > > meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
> > > > > Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan
> damai
> > > > > sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal)
> dijaga.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
> > > > > menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga
> > > salah
> > > > > kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg
> liwat
> > > > itu
> > > > > FPI?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
> > > > > toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi
> sekali...paling
> > > > aman
> > > > > sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan
> saja
> > > > > berbuat seperti itu...
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: "sunny" ambon@
> > > > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Dat

Re: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik widura
"..paling aman sih bilang kalo itu
bukan NU tapi FPI.."

" Apa hubungannya NU vs FPI?"

Betul kan ???hwakakak.


-Original Message-
From: "widura" 
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:50:38 
To: 
Reply-To: a.wid...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

Makanya saya bilang kamu ngga becus menghubungkannya dalam kasus itu.
-Original Message-
From: "ndeboost" 
Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:37:33 
To: 
Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

"Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU
yg katanya toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?
...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo itu
bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
berbuat seperti itu..."

Siapa yg nulis diatas? Apa hubungannya NU vs FPI?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
>
> Yg pertama, saya bukan ngopas, tapi memberi komentar postingan
sebelumnya...paham ?...yg kedua, yg saya bilang adalah kamu yg ngga
becus ngaitin hubungan NU dgn jombang dan toleransinya seperti yg saya
maksud, jadi bukan mungkir apa yg sudah saya tulis sebelumnya...yg
ketiga, apa penyebab sampai siaga 1 ? Kondisi aman yg orang ngga perlu
takut adalah tidak pakai siaga2 an...polisi sudah memberikan status
demikian artinya FPI memang menjadi ancaman keamanan...paham ???
> -Original Message-
> From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:21
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
>
> Loh kalau ngopas ya sedikit mikirlah, siap kalau ada yg ngerespon
gitu.
> He he he kok lalu ngatain nDeboost.. yg nyangkut-nyangkutin dg NU. nT
> baca sendirilah.
>
> Ada rombongan liwat kok sdh gimana gitu.
>
> Lah wong sdh di deklarasikan Siaga-1 nT masih khawatir? Jadi apa
> kelebihan deklarasi ini kalau nT pada ga reti?
>
> Btw, OOT
> nurut imannya (CMIIW) crosstian kan kalau terjadi sesuatu dg mereka
> langsung terselamatkan? Apa disono ga enak?
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> >
> > Bego banget sih...udah ketahuan ada link beritanya pake nanya tau
dari
> manaFPI emang menakutkan koq..apanya yg salah kalo tu orang
kristen
> ketakutan ?nah kamu ngaitin NU dgn Jombang dan toleransi yg
> dibangun-nya  aja ngga becusngga tau juga nih antara oon beneran
> atau pura pura...
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:44:58
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> >
> > Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai ga
> > meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
> > Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan damai
> > sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal) dijaga.
> >
> > Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
> > menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga
salah
> > kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg liwat
> itu
> > FPI?
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
> > toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling
> aman
> > sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> > berbuat seperti itu...
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "sunny" ambon@
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47
> > > To: 
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-j\
\
> \
> > ombang
> > >
> > >
> > > FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51
> > > Muji Lestari
> > > Hits: 832
> > >
> > >
> > > KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa
> Timur
> > mengaku tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di
> gereja,
> > pada Minggu kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang
> anggota
> > milisi sipil FPI dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan,
> dari
> > Persekutuan Gereja dan Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang
> > menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir meski gereja-gereja dijaga aparat
> > kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini FPI lebih banyak
dikenal
> > dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
> > >
> > > "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir,
> > cemas sehingga ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut
> ibadah.
> > Takut dengan adanya kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar
> > Jombang. Kalau Jombang saja mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari
> luar
> > Jombang yang seakan -akan sehingga acara mereka

[proletar] Re: Orang Islam muncul sekedar membuktikan bahwa mereka itu

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
"ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...

Dia sudah keteteran dan nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi menyilaukan 
yang disampaikan oleh orang kafir di mailing list ini, yaitu bahwa buku taik 
anjing yang dijadikannnya kitab suci itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah, lantas dia 
cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar unjuk 
isi otaknya yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> Hanya karena BS sak uplik lalu ganti akal ya Pak?
> Maklum  dari (pucuk) perancis ke Paris
> dari langgar ke V-park
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Setelah terkapar dihadapan orang kafir seperti "great pretender" dan
> "sebuah kenyataan" yang dengan telak berhasil membuktikan bahwa buku
> taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikan kitab suci oleh orang Islam yang
> dungu-dungu kayak babi itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene
> tidak berbukti ada - dan tidak berkutik dihadapan 'item abu" yang
> menunjukkan secara terperinci betapa dungunya, betapa buasnya, betapa
> zalimnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa biadabnya ajaran agama taik anjing
> Islam itu, maka orang Islam yang masih sanggup nongol cuma bisa
> kaing-kaing kayak anjing kena pentung sekedar untuk menunjukkan betapa
> dungunya, betapa busuknya dan betapa nistanya fikiran mereka atau betapa
> biadabnya, betapa bengisnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa zalimnya adab
> mereka itu.
> >
> > Mereka sedang berebut membuktikan bahwa apa yang dikatakan oleh "item
> abu" itu benar adanya: ajaran agama Islam itu membikin penganutnya jadi
> manusia dungu, buas, zalim, kejam, keji, ganas, buas lagi biadab.
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu ("ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...)

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Karena BS sak upliak ganti akal ya Pak?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> "ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...
>
> Dia sudah keteteran dan nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi
mùenyilaukan yang disampaikan oleh orang kafir di mailing list ini,
yaitu bahwa buku taik anjing yang dijadikannnya kitab suci itu TIDAK
berisi wahyu Allah, lantas dia cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru
dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar unjuk isi otaknya yang busuk, nista
lagi menjijikkan.
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> >
> > Makanya saya bilang kamu ngga becus menghubungkannya dalam kasus
itu.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: rambitesemak@
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:37:33
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> >
> > "Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU
> > yg katanya toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?
> > ...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo itu
> > bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> > berbuat seperti itu..."
> >
> > Siapa yg nulis diatas? Apa hubungannya NU vs FPI?
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yg pertama, saya bukan ngopas, tapi memberi komentar postingan
> > sebelumnya...paham ?...yg kedua, yg saya bilang adalah kamu yg ngga
> > becus ngaitin hubungan NU dgn jombang dan toleransinya seperti yg
saya
> > maksud, jadi bukan mungkir apa yg sudah saya tulis sebelumnya...yg
> > ketiga, apa penyebab sampai siaga 1 ? Kondisi aman yg orang ngga
perlu
> > takut adalah tidak pakai siaga2 an...polisi sudah memberikan status
> > demikian artinya FPI memang menjadi ancaman keamanan...paham ???
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:21
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > >
> > > Loh kalau ngopas ya sedikit mikirlah, siap kalau ada yg ngerespon
> > gitu.
> > > He he he kok lalu ngatain nDeboost.. yg nyangkut-nyangkutin dg NU.
nT
> > > baca sendirilah.
> > >
> > > Ada rombongan liwat kok sdh gimana gitu.
> > >
> > > Lah wong sdh di deklarasikan Siaga-1 nT masih khawatir? Jadi apa
> > > kelebihan deklarasi ini kalau nT pada ga reti?
> > >
> > > Btw, OOT
> > > nurut imannya (CMIIW) crosstian kan kalau terjadi sesuatu dg
mereka
> > > langsung terselamatkan? Apa disono ga enak?
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bego banget sih...udah ketahuan ada link beritanya pake nanya
tau
> > dari
> > > manaFPI emang menakutkan koq..apanya yg salah kalo tu orang
> > kristen
> > > ketakutan ?nah kamu ngaitin NU dgn Jombang dan toleransi yg
> > > dibangun-nya  aja ngga becusngga tau juga nih antara oon
beneran
> > > atau pura pura...
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:44:58
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > >
> > > > Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai
ga
> > > > meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
> > > > Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan
damai
> > > > sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal)
dijaga.
> > > >
> > > > Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
> > > > menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga
> > salah
> > > > kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg
liwat
> > > itu
> > > > FPI?
> > > >
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
> > > > toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi
sekali...paling
> > > aman
> > > > sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan
saja
> > > > berbuat seperti itu...
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: "sunny" ambon@
> > > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47
> > > > > To: 
> > > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-j\
\
> > \
> > > \
> > > > ombang
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > > > Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51
> > > > > Muji Lestari
> > > > > Hits: 832
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang
Jawa
> > > Timur
> > > > mengaku tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di
> > > gereja,
> > > > pada Minggu kemarin. Hal itu diseb

[proletar] Re: Orang Islam muncul sekedar membuktikan bahwa mereka itu

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Sdh tahu kan Pak yg nDeboost ga (sudi) ngitung jumlah kata "kafir" dr
Bibel namun Bibel itu sendiri?
Mana Pak link kritisi Bibel oleh para pakar Kristen? Si Bapak pura-pura
lupa apa memang?
Sekalian Pak link mengenai "perjuangan" manusia merebut posisi cucu
tuhan alias paus? Kemarin sore nDeboost ke toko buku besar di kota, baca
back-cover buku (terbitan "Elex...) mengenai perebutan kursi paus.
Mengerikan Pak.
Ga pernah baca risalah sejenis Pak? Mana kritiknya kecuali ke Islam?


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
>
> Setelah terkapar dihadapan orang kafir seperti "great pretender" dan
"sebuah kenyataan" yang dengan telak berhasil membuktikan bahwa buku
taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikan kitab suci oleh orang Islam yang
dungu-dungu kayak babi itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene
tidak berbukti ada - dan tidak berkutik dihadapan 'item abu" yang
menunjukkan secara terperinci betapa dungunya, betapa buasnya, betapa
zalimnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa biadabnya ajaran agama taik anjing
Islam itu, maka orang Islam yang masih sanggup nongol cuma bisa
kaing-kaing kayak anjing kena pentung sekedar untuk menunjukkan betapa
dungunya, betapa busuknya dan betapa nistanya fikiran mereka atau betapa
biadabnya, betapa bengisnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa zalimnya adab
mereka itu.
>
> Mereka sedang berebut membuktikan bahwa apa yang dikatakan oleh "item
abu" itu benar adanya: ajaran agama Islam itu membikin penganutnya jadi
manusia dungu, buas, zalim, kejam, keji, ganas, buas lagi biadab.
>






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[proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu ("ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...)

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
"ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...

Dia sudah keteteran dan nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi mùenyilaukan 
yang disampaikan oleh orang kafir di mailing list ini, yaitu bahwa buku taik 
anjing yang dijadikannnya kitab suci itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah, lantas dia 
cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientotin monyet bonobo, sekedar unjuk 
isi otaknya yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
>
> Makanya saya bilang kamu ngga becus menghubungkannya dalam kasus itu.
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:37:33 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> 
> "Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU
> yg katanya toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?
> ...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo itu
> bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> berbuat seperti itu..."
> 
> Siapa yg nulis diatas? Apa hubungannya NU vs FPI?
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
> >
> > Yg pertama, saya bukan ngopas, tapi memberi komentar postingan
> sebelumnya...paham ?...yg kedua, yg saya bilang adalah kamu yg ngga
> becus ngaitin hubungan NU dgn jombang dan toleransinya seperti yg saya
> maksud, jadi bukan mungkir apa yg sudah saya tulis sebelumnya...yg
> ketiga, apa penyebab sampai siaga 1 ? Kondisi aman yg orang ngga perlu
> takut adalah tidak pakai siaga2 an...polisi sudah memberikan status
> demikian artinya FPI memang menjadi ancaman keamanan...paham ???
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:21
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> >
> > Loh kalau ngopas ya sedikit mikirlah, siap kalau ada yg ngerespon
> gitu.
> > He he he kok lalu ngatain nDeboost.. yg nyangkut-nyangkutin dg NU. nT
> > baca sendirilah.
> >
> > Ada rombongan liwat kok sdh gimana gitu.
> >
> > Lah wong sdh di deklarasikan Siaga-1 nT masih khawatir? Jadi apa
> > kelebihan deklarasi ini kalau nT pada ga reti?
> >
> > Btw, OOT
> > nurut imannya (CMIIW) crosstian kan kalau terjadi sesuatu dg mereka
> > langsung terselamatkan? Apa disono ga enak?
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Bego banget sih...udah ketahuan ada link beritanya pake nanya tau
> dari
> > manaFPI emang menakutkan koq..apanya yg salah kalo tu orang
> kristen
> > ketakutan ?nah kamu ngaitin NU dgn Jombang dan toleransi yg
> > dibangun-nya  aja ngga becusngga tau juga nih antara oon beneran
> > atau pura pura...
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:44:58
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > >
> > > Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai ga
> > > meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
> > > Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan damai
> > > sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal) dijaga.
> > >
> > > Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
> > > menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga
> salah
> > > kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg liwat
> > itu
> > > FPI?
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
> > > toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling
> > aman
> > > sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> > > berbuat seperti itu...
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: "sunny" ambon@
> > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47
> > > > To: 
> > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-j\
> \
> > \
> > > ombang
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > > Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51
> > > > Muji Lestari
> > > > Hits: 832
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa
> > Timur
> > > mengaku tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di
> > gereja,
> > > pada Minggu kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang
> > anggota
> > > milisi sipil FPI dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan,
> > dari
> > > Persekutuan Gereja dan Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang
> > > menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir meski gereja-gereja dijaga aparat
> > > kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini FPI lebih banyak
> dikenal
> > > dengan aksi-aks

Re: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik widura
Makanya saya bilang kamu ngga becus menghubungkannya dalam kasus itu.
-Original Message-
From: "ndeboost" 
Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:37:33 
To: 
Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

"Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU
yg katanya toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?
...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo itu
bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
berbuat seperti itu..."

Siapa yg nulis diatas? Apa hubungannya NU vs FPI?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
>
> Yg pertama, saya bukan ngopas, tapi memberi komentar postingan
sebelumnya...paham ?...yg kedua, yg saya bilang adalah kamu yg ngga
becus ngaitin hubungan NU dgn jombang dan toleransinya seperti yg saya
maksud, jadi bukan mungkir apa yg sudah saya tulis sebelumnya...yg
ketiga, apa penyebab sampai siaga 1 ? Kondisi aman yg orang ngga perlu
takut adalah tidak pakai siaga2 an...polisi sudah memberikan status
demikian artinya FPI memang menjadi ancaman keamanan...paham ???
> -Original Message-
> From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:21
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
>
> Loh kalau ngopas ya sedikit mikirlah, siap kalau ada yg ngerespon
gitu.
> He he he kok lalu ngatain nDeboost.. yg nyangkut-nyangkutin dg NU. nT
> baca sendirilah.
>
> Ada rombongan liwat kok sdh gimana gitu.
>
> Lah wong sdh di deklarasikan Siaga-1 nT masih khawatir? Jadi apa
> kelebihan deklarasi ini kalau nT pada ga reti?
>
> Btw, OOT
> nurut imannya (CMIIW) crosstian kan kalau terjadi sesuatu dg mereka
> langsung terselamatkan? Apa disono ga enak?
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> >
> > Bego banget sih...udah ketahuan ada link beritanya pake nanya tau
dari
> manaFPI emang menakutkan koq..apanya yg salah kalo tu orang
kristen
> ketakutan ?nah kamu ngaitin NU dgn Jombang dan toleransi yg
> dibangun-nya  aja ngga becusngga tau juga nih antara oon beneran
> atau pura pura...
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:44:58
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> >
> > Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai ga
> > meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
> > Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan damai
> > sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal) dijaga.
> >
> > Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
> > menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga
salah
> > kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg liwat
> itu
> > FPI?
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
> > toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling
> aman
> > sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> > berbuat seperti itu...
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "sunny" ambon@
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47
> > > To: 
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-j\
\
> \
> > ombang
> > >
> > >
> > > FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51
> > > Muji Lestari
> > > Hits: 832
> > >
> > >
> > > KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa
> Timur
> > mengaku tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di
> gereja,
> > pada Minggu kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang
> anggota
> > milisi sipil FPI dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan,
> dari
> > Persekutuan Gereja dan Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang
> > menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir meski gereja-gereja dijaga aparat
> > kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini FPI lebih banyak
dikenal
> > dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
> > >
> > > "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir,
> > cemas sehingga ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut
> ibadah.
> > Takut dengan adanya kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar
> > Jombang. Kalau Jombang saja mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari
> luar
> > Jombang yang seakan -akan sehingga acara mereka sudah membuat umat
ini
> > bertanya -tanya apakan kita ini aman nggak dalam ibadah ini."
> > >
> > > Kemarin, ribuan orang mengenakan atribut kelompok milisi sipil FPI
> > membanjiri Jombang Jawa Timur. Mereka datang dari berbagai daerah
> untuk
> > menghadiri pengajian akbar FPI.
> > >
> > > [Non-text p

[proletar] Re: Orang Islam muncul sekedar membuktikan bahwa mereka itu

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Hanya karena BS sak uplik lalu ganti akal ya Pak?
Maklum  dari (pucuk) perancis ke Paris
dari langgar ke V-park

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
>
> Setelah terkapar dihadapan orang kafir seperti "great pretender" dan
"sebuah kenyataan" yang dengan telak berhasil membuktikan bahwa buku
taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikan kitab suci oleh orang Islam yang
dungu-dungu kayak babi itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene
tidak berbukti ada - dan tidak berkutik dihadapan 'item abu" yang
menunjukkan secara terperinci betapa dungunya, betapa buasnya, betapa
zalimnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa biadabnya ajaran agama taik anjing
Islam itu, maka orang Islam yang masih sanggup nongol cuma bisa
kaing-kaing kayak anjing kena pentung sekedar untuk menunjukkan betapa
dungunya, betapa busuknya dan betapa nistanya fikiran mereka atau betapa
biadabnya, betapa bengisnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa zalimnya adab
mereka itu.
>
> Mereka sedang berebut membuktikan bahwa apa yang dikatakan oleh "item
abu" itu benar adanya: ajaran agama Islam itu membikin penganutnya jadi
manusia dungu, buas, zalim, kejam, keji, ganas, buas lagi biadab.
>






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[proletar] Re: NATO jets stop attack on rebel-held port in Libya

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Hooh.
Gantian uji coba "predator"
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
>
> http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article374955.ece
>
> NATO jets stop attack on rebel-held port in Libya
>
> Burned cars are seen next a plume of black smoke in the port of
Misrata, Libya, on Wednesday after an airstrike by NATO jets to stop an
attack by Muammar Qaddafi's forces. (AP)
>
> By BEN HUBBARD | AP
>
> Published: Apr 27, 2011 19:08 Updated: Apr 27, 2011 20:39
>
> MISRATA, Libya: NATO warplanes pounded forces loyal to Libyan leader
Moaamar Qaddafi attacking the rebel-held city of Misrata, blasting
fighting vehicles advancing on the port that serves as the besieged
city's sole lifeline, a NATO spokeswoman said on Wednesday.
>
> The battle for Misrata has become the focal point of the uprising
against Qaddafi's regime, and the near-constant shelling of the city by
government troops over the past two months has spurred calls for more
forceful international intervention to stop the bloodshed.
>
> The alliance airstrike, which took place Tuesday night and sent giant
plumes of smoke into the air, helped repulse Qaddafi's forces attack on
the city's vital port complex, alliance spokeswoman Carmen Romero said.
>
> "NATO forces moved quickly to break up a force advancing on Misrata
port," Romero said. "Several NATO aircraft were directed to the area,
and following careful assessment of the risk to civilians, our pilots
struck." Damage assessments showed that six military vehicles and seven
"technicals" - civilian trucks equipped with machine guns or rocket
launchers - were hit. One surface-to-air missile site near Misrata was
also destroyed, she said.
>
> On Wednesday, the port bore signs of the ferocity of the shelling.
>
> Rockets had blasted gaping holes in the roofs of two warehouses, and
blown out the windows of another building.
>
> A pillar of black smoke from a burning heap of tires ignited by the
bombardment billowed over the port, and nearby the charred shells of
some 250 brand new cars, all torched in the shelling, smoldered.
>
> With Qaddafi's troops besieging the city on all sides by land, the
port has become a key point in the battle for Misrata, and the assault
by pro-Qaddafi forces Tuesday temporarily suspended the flow of aid and
people.
>
> The Albanian passenger ferry Red Star 1 carrying aid and two
ambulances was forced to spend the night at sea, and only docked late
Wednesday morning. Workers unloaded its 10 containers of aid and
prepared to take on refugees looking to flee the battered city.
>
> The Libyan government has denied that it engages in indiscriminate
shelling of civilian population centers.
>
> The United Nations Security Council used evidence of attacks on
civilians as grounds for its resolution authorizing an international
campaign of airstrikes against Qaddafi's forces which has neutralized
much of their heavy weapons and staved off total rebel defeat in the
east.
>
> British Defense Minister Liam Fox said Tuesday that the airstrikes
have helped put the regime on its "back foot" and aided the rebels in
making progress, though for the past weeks, there has been little
movement on any of the war's fronts.
>
> "There is little doubt across the alliance that this key contribution
has proven to be of immense value protecting civilians in Misrata and
have helped opposition forces to defend themselves against this brutal
regime there," he said.
>
> Maj. Gen. John Lorimer, British military spokesman, said British
fighter jets destroyed a battle tank, eight support vehicles and a
surface-to-air missile facility in airstrikes around Misrata on Saturday
and Sunday. Eight rocket launcher vehicles were also damaged and three
armored personal carriers targeted.
>
> British jets also flew sorties on Monday around Brega and Ajdabiya,
and Yafran, firing on a tank near Mizda and a self-propelled gun close
to Yafran, Lorimer said.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
"Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU
yg katanya toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?
...kontradiksi sekali...paling aman sih bilang kalo itu
bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
berbuat seperti itu..."

Siapa yg nulis diatas? Apa hubungannya NU vs FPI?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
>
> Yg pertama, saya bukan ngopas, tapi memberi komentar postingan
sebelumnya...paham ?...yg kedua, yg saya bilang adalah kamu yg ngga
becus ngaitin hubungan NU dgn jombang dan toleransinya seperti yg saya
maksud, jadi bukan mungkir apa yg sudah saya tulis sebelumnya...yg
ketiga, apa penyebab sampai siaga 1 ? Kondisi aman yg orang ngga perlu
takut adalah tidak pakai siaga2 an...polisi sudah memberikan status
demikian artinya FPI memang menjadi ancaman keamanan...paham ???
> -Original Message-
> From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:21
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
>
> Loh kalau ngopas ya sedikit mikirlah, siap kalau ada yg ngerespon
gitu.
> He he he kok lalu ngatain nDeboost.. yg nyangkut-nyangkutin dg NU. nT
> baca sendirilah.
>
> Ada rombongan liwat kok sdh gimana gitu.
>
> Lah wong sdh di deklarasikan Siaga-1 nT masih khawatir? Jadi apa
> kelebihan deklarasi ini kalau nT pada ga reti?
>
> Btw, OOT
> nurut imannya (CMIIW) crosstian kan kalau terjadi sesuatu dg mereka
> langsung terselamatkan? Apa disono ga enak?
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> >
> > Bego banget sih...udah ketahuan ada link beritanya pake nanya tau
dari
> manaFPI emang menakutkan koq..apanya yg salah kalo tu orang
kristen
> ketakutan ?nah kamu ngaitin NU dgn Jombang dan toleransi yg
> dibangun-nya  aja ngga becusngga tau juga nih antara oon beneran
> atau pura pura...
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:44:58
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> >
> > Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai ga
> > meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
> > Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan damai
> > sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal) dijaga.
> >
> > Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
> > menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga
salah
> > kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg liwat
> itu
> > FPI?
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
> > toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling
> aman
> > sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> > berbuat seperti itu...
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "sunny" ambon@
> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47
> > > To: 
> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-j\
\
> \
> > ombang
> > >
> > >
> > > FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > > Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51
> > > Muji Lestari
> > > Hits: 832
> > >
> > >
> > > KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa
> Timur
> > mengaku tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di
> gereja,
> > pada Minggu kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang
> anggota
> > milisi sipil FPI dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan,
> dari
> > Persekutuan Gereja dan Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang
> > menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir meski gereja-gereja dijaga aparat
> > kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini FPI lebih banyak
dikenal
> > dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
> > >
> > > "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir,
> > cemas sehingga ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut
> ibadah.
> > Takut dengan adanya kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar
> > Jombang. Kalau Jombang saja mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari
> luar
> > Jombang yang seakan -akan sehingga acara mereka sudah membuat umat
ini
> > bertanya -tanya apakan kita ini aman nggak dalam ibadah ini."
> > >
> > > Kemarin, ribuan orang mengenakan atribut kelompok milisi sipil FPI
> > membanjiri Jombang Jawa Timur. Mereka datang dari berbagai daerah
> untuk
> > menghadiri pengajian akbar FPI.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


Re: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik widura
Yg pertama, saya bukan ngopas, tapi memberi komentar postingan 
sebelumnya...paham ?...yg kedua, yg saya bilang adalah kamu yg ngga becus 
ngaitin hubungan NU dgn jombang dan toleransinya seperti yg saya maksud, jadi 
bukan mungkir apa yg sudah saya tulis sebelumnya...yg ketiga, apa penyebab 
sampai siaga 1 ? Kondisi aman yg orang ngga perlu takut adalah tidak pakai 
siaga2 an...polisi sudah memberikan status demikian artinya FPI memang menjadi 
ancaman keamanan...paham ???
-Original Message-
From: "ndeboost" 
Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:21 
To: 
Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

Loh kalau ngopas ya sedikit mikirlah, siap kalau ada yg ngerespon gitu.
He he he kok lalu ngatain nDeboost.. yg nyangkut-nyangkutin dg NU. nT
baca sendirilah.

Ada rombongan liwat kok sdh gimana gitu.

Lah wong sdh di deklarasikan Siaga-1 nT masih khawatir? Jadi apa
kelebihan deklarasi ini kalau nT pada ga reti?

Btw, OOT
nurut imannya (CMIIW) crosstian kan kalau terjadi sesuatu dg mereka 
langsung terselamatkan? Apa disono ga enak?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
>
> Bego banget sih...udah ketahuan ada link beritanya pake nanya tau dari
manaFPI emang menakutkan koq..apanya yg salah kalo tu orang kristen
ketakutan ?nah kamu ngaitin NU dgn Jombang dan toleransi yg
dibangun-nya  aja ngga becusngga tau juga nih antara oon beneran
atau pura pura...
> -Original Message-
> From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:44:58
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
>
> Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai ga
> meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
> Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan damai
> sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal) dijaga.
>
> Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
> menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga salah
> kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg liwat
itu
> FPI?
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> >
> > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
> toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling
aman
> sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> berbuat seperti itu...
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "sunny" ambon@
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> >
> >
>
http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-j\
\
> ombang
> >
> >
> > FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51
> > Muji Lestari
> > Hits: 832
> >
> >
> > KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa
Timur
> mengaku tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di
gereja,
> pada Minggu kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang
anggota
> milisi sipil FPI dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan,
dari
> Persekutuan Gereja dan Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang
> menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir meski gereja-gereja dijaga aparat
> kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini FPI lebih banyak dikenal
> dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
> >
> > "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir,
> cemas sehingga ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut
ibadah.
> Takut dengan adanya kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar
> Jombang. Kalau Jombang saja mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari
luar
> Jombang yang seakan -akan sehingga acara mereka sudah membuat umat ini
> bertanya -tanya apakan kita ini aman nggak dalam ibadah ini."
> >
> > Kemarin, ribuan orang mengenakan atribut kelompok milisi sipil FPI
> membanjiri Jombang Jawa Timur. Mereka datang dari berbagai daerah
untuk
> menghadiri pengajian akbar FPI.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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[proletar] Re: 4 tanda kehidupan seks anda

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Jangan pernah bosen sama isteri karena dia adalah saudaramu seiman.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Powered by Telkomsel ®"
 wrote:
>
> 4 Tanda Kehidupan Seks Anda Membosankan
>
>
> Tidak jarang kemesraan suami dan istri mulai meredup seiring
bertambahnya usia pernikahan. Untuk mengetahui kegiatan bercinta Anda
membosankan atau tidak, simak empat tandanya di bawah ini, seperti yang
dikutip dari msn.
>
> 1. Anda memiliki banyak lingerie tapi jarang mengenakannya
> Memang tidak ada yang lebih nyaman dari kaus longgar, namun bukan
berarti Anda harus mengenakannya setiap hari. Singkirkanlah daster, kaus
atau piyama longgar untuk beberapa waktu dan kenakan lingerie seksi
untuk menggoda pasangan.
>
> 2. Pasangan sering tertidur di sofa
> Jika belakangan ini pasangan sering tertidur di sofa dan bukan karena
habis menonton pertandingan bola, Anda tampaknya perlu khawatir.
Menghindari tempat tidur merupakan tanda yang paling nyata bahwa
kehidupan seks Anda berdua dalam kondisi buruk.
>
> 3. Ruang tidur Anda berdua berubah fungsi
> Bukannya saling bermesraan, Anda berdua malah lebih sering menatap
laptop untuk mengerjakan pekerjaan yang tertunda. Kamar tidur pun
berubah menjadi ruang kerja.
>
> 4. Anda mulai jarang memperhatikan kecantikan
> Saat seks tidak lagi menjadi prioritas, Anda pun juga menjadi malas
memperhatikan penampilan. Tanyakan pada diri Anda kapan terakhir kali
Anda berolahraga atau mencukur bulu kemaluan?
>
>
>
> # Sudah pada cukur bulu kemaluan belum ???
>
>
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[proletar] Re: France24: Hamas, Fatah agree to form government, hold elections

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Sudah ga tereak-tereak demokrasi lagi Pak?
Barat beraninya "promosi" demokrasi ke negara-negara Islam.
Kenegara-negara komunis standardnya ganda, Barat matikutu ngadepin
Cina-Korut. Bahkan sama Kuba saja kapok.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> atest update: 27/04/2011
>
>
>
> Hamas, Fatah agree to form government, hold elections
>
> Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah party struck a deal with
rival Islamist party Hamas in the Egyptian capital of Cairo on Wednesday
to form an interim unity government and fix a date for general
elections.
>
> By News Wires (text)
>
>
> REUTERS - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement and its
bitter rival, the Islamist Hamas, struck a deal on Wednesday to form an
interim unity government and fix a date for general election, both sides
said.
>
> The deal, which took many officials by surprise because of profound
Fatah-Hamas divisions over how to resolve generations of conflict with
Israel, was thrashed out in Egypt and followed a series of secret
meetings.
>
> "The two sides signed initial letters on an agreement. All points of
differences have been overcome," Taher Al-Nono, the Hamas government
spokesman in Gaza, told Reuters. He added that Cairo would shortly
invite both sides to a signing ceremony.
>
> The accord was first reported by Egypt's intelligence service, which
brokered the talks.
>
> In a statement carried by the Egyptian state news agency MENA, the
intelligence service said the deal was hatched by a Hamas delegation led
by Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy head of the group's politburo, and Fatah
Central Committee member Azzam al-Ahmad.
>
> "The consultations resulted in full understandings on all points of
discussions, including setting up an interim agreement with specific
tasks and to set a date for election," the statement said.
>
> It said the agreement would allow Egypt to invite all Palestinian
factions to sign a national reconciliation agreement in Cairo in the
next few days.
>
> Restoring Palestinian unity is seen as crucial to reviving any
prospect for a Palestinian state based on peaceful co-existence
alongside Israel. Fatah, the mainstream Palestinian movement until a
2006 election victory by Hamas, backs negotiated peace but the Islamists
reject it.
>
> Al-Ahmad and Abu Marzouk said the agreement covered all points of
contention, including forming a transitional government, security
arrangements and the restructuring of the Palestine Liberation
Organisation to allow Hamas to join it.
>
> A senior Egyptian intelligence official told Reuters that he expected
Abbas and Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal, who is based in Damascus, to
attend the signing of the agreement in Cairo.
>






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[proletar] NATO jets stop attack on rebel-held port in Libya

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik sunny
http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article374955.ece

NATO jets stop attack on rebel-held port in Libya
 
Burned cars are seen next a plume of black smoke in the port of Misrata, Libya, 
on Wednesday after an airstrike by NATO jets to stop an attack by Muammar 
Qaddafi's forces. (AP)

By BEN HUBBARD | AP 

Published: Apr 27, 2011 19:08 Updated: Apr 27, 2011 20:39 

MISRATA, Libya: NATO warplanes pounded forces loyal to Libyan leader Moaamar 
Qaddafi attacking the rebel-held city of Misrata, blasting fighting vehicles 
advancing on the port that serves as the besieged city's sole lifeline, a NATO 
spokeswoman said on Wednesday.

The battle for Misrata has become the focal point of the uprising against 
Qaddafi's regime, and the near-constant shelling of the city by government 
troops over the past two months has spurred calls for more forceful 
international intervention to stop the bloodshed.

The alliance airstrike, which took place Tuesday night and sent giant plumes of 
smoke into the air, helped repulse Qaddafi's forces attack on the city's vital 
port complex, alliance spokeswoman Carmen Romero said.

"NATO forces moved quickly to break up a force advancing on Misrata port," 
Romero said. "Several NATO aircraft were directed to the area, and following 
careful assessment of the risk to civilians, our pilots struck." Damage 
assessments showed that six military vehicles and seven "technicals" - civilian 
trucks equipped with machine guns or rocket launchers - were hit. One 
surface-to-air missile site near Misrata was also destroyed, she said.

On Wednesday, the port bore signs of the ferocity of the shelling.

Rockets had blasted gaping holes in the roofs of two warehouses, and blown out 
the windows of another building.

A pillar of black smoke from a burning heap of tires ignited by the bombardment 
billowed over the port, and nearby the charred shells of some 250 brand new 
cars, all torched in the shelling, smoldered.

With Qaddafi's troops besieging the city on all sides by land, the port has 
become a key point in the battle for Misrata, and the assault by pro-Qaddafi 
forces Tuesday temporarily suspended the flow of aid and people.

The Albanian passenger ferry Red Star 1 carrying aid and two ambulances was 
forced to spend the night at sea, and only docked late Wednesday morning. 
Workers unloaded its 10 containers of aid and prepared to take on refugees 
looking to flee the battered city.

The Libyan government has denied that it engages in indiscriminate shelling of 
civilian population centers.

The United Nations Security Council used evidence of attacks on civilians as 
grounds for its resolution authorizing an international campaign of airstrikes 
against Qaddafi's forces which has neutralized much of their heavy weapons and 
staved off total rebel defeat in the east.

British Defense Minister Liam Fox said Tuesday that the airstrikes have helped 
put the regime on its "back foot" and aided the rebels in making progress, 
though for the past weeks, there has been little movement on any of the war's 
fronts.

"There is little doubt across the alliance that this key contribution has 
proven to be of immense value protecting civilians in Misrata and have helped 
opposition forces to defend themselves against this brutal regime there," he 
said.

Maj. Gen. John Lorimer, British military spokesman, said British fighter jets 
destroyed a battle tank, eight support vehicles and a surface-to-air missile 
facility in airstrikes around Misrata on Saturday and Sunday. Eight rocket 
launcher vehicles were also damaged and three armored personal carriers 
targeted.

British jets also flew sorties on Monday around Brega and Ajdabiya, and Yafran, 
firing on a tank near Mizda and a self-propelled gun close to Yafran, Lorimer 
said.


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Re: [proletar] gol,

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Messias 2, Casilas 0 

--- "ajeg"  wrote:
>
> 
> Messias 1, Casilas 0
>








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[proletar] gol,

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Messias 1, Casilas 0 




 





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[proletar] kartu spesial buat mou

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Haha, Mourinho ditendang ke tribun. 











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[proletar] Re: pertanda, alamat, sign

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia
parto mah ngeluarin pistol karena latah.
hehehe...

sekarang pistol yang paling ciamik merk nya glock buatan swiss.  kecil, ringan, 
nggak pernah macet dan akurasinya sangat baik.

(wah... pepe kartu merah).




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "suryana"  wrote:
>
> FN ajah Boss biar rada seimbang dengan badan mah.
> ( FN n Luger sama apa gak sih ? ), aku pernah sekali
> nyoba pakai Magnum dirty harry, sekali berondong langsung
> abis pelornya, ditegor sama yang punya pestol, aku balik nanya
> targetnya kena gak, di bilang nge deret ke bawah dari otak sampai dagu
> hehehe..dah sampai mati aku gak mau pegang pestol beneran lagi
> bawaannya ntar jadi kayak Parto deh.
> 
> sur.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "liver_duke" 
> > 
> > btw, luger kok berkesan feminim yag? apa masih enak diumpetin
> > di balik ketek? asal jangan colt aja apalagi versi revolver,
> > saban gw ngebidik 10 pasti ada 4 yg nyasar padahal 50 meter.
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: marun lima

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik rezameutia

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, duke  wrote:

> 
> ok .. sekadar menghibur diri lantaran (lagi-lagi) gk bisa ikutan
> goyang di senayan ala rezameutia yg sampe orgasme di java jazz ;o)
> 



hehehe...

pertama kali gw denger group ini lantaran anak gw (masih smp) udah ngefans 
berat dengan maroon 5.  nggak terasa waktu berlalu dengan cepat, sekarang si 
bocah bela2in dari bandung malem ini untuk nonton di senayan. 

ini lagu maroon 5 pertama kali yang gw denger,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZxSeqxSIdQ

kalo gw sih demen lagu yang ini,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBHAXDOxNYQ




> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vRQU3Xo8oc&feature=related
> 
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Re: [proletar] Zeppelin Say : the thought, the unthought and the unthinkable

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Sekarang nyelak di antara 2 babak clasico (masih 0-0). 

Tanpa the lord, DP bukan apa-apa. Tapi lucunya orang 
sering bilang deparpel itu rici blekmor. Sekurangnya udah 
terbukti tanpa si blek DP tetep jalan. 

Dari 6 formasi itu yang paling ngeparpel ya edisi 
gillan-glover disusul edisi hughes-coverdale. Selebihnya, 
susah dibedain sama oma irama.. hehe, sori nih buat yang 
puprle mania. 

Led Zeppelin itu bukan grup band. Tapi keseia-sekataan. 
Mati satu, bubar. 

Salahsatu dari sekian grup sohib L-Zepp 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw8_aOjw3Nk&NR=1

Neng sandy.. masih si the best folk-rock singer 
of all time. Some people still call her a queen. 


--- "liver_duke"  wrote:

> ikutan, terutama cuma perkara the zepp (and purple)
> 
> sepakat banget dgn alinea awal, dan gw contoh bagusnya.
> apa sih yg boleh menarik dari si purple? made in japan?
> mereka cuma boleh ditandai dari biji2an ketika tersebar,
> saat the lord membentuk project windows bareng schoener.
> ato mighty gillan melafalkan if you believe me bareng
> colins town sekaligus pamer fussion "money lender", juga
> dahsyatnya "in the still of the night" versi uler albino.
> 
> artinya bolehlah mereka klaim sbg gerombolan dgn predikat
> super termasuk reputasi bongkar pasang hingga 6 formasi.
> fakta yg sekaligus akan masuk ke paragraf berikutnya bahwa
> peseneng purpel boleh belagak omnivora kecuali heavy metal.
> 
> apa itu heavy metal? pakem ini dikandung di sepanjang era
> yardbirds bikin perkara, namun baru lahir dan dibesarkan
> justru ketika sang bozo wafat meninggalkan master print.
> 
> cuma satu nama yg bisa bikin itu, the unthought and
> the unthinkable .. serta gak akan pernah bisa ada lagi.
> 
> [we wish it to be known that the loss of our dear friend,
> have led us to decide that we could not continue as we were,
> and was simply signed .. zepp] 
> 
> 
> --- "ajeg"  wrote: 
>
> > Numpang nyelak, 
> > 
> > Pedoyan Led Zeppelin umumnya doyan apa aja yang asyik di 
> > kuping tembus ke pedaleman. Sedangkan peseneng Deep Purple 
> > umumnya juga doyan apa aja kecuali Led Zeppelin, ha ha ha ... 
> > 
> > Nggak anehlah, barangkali mereka terpengaruh keangkuhan 
> > menir Blackmore yang ngerasa paling ngguitar hero sendirian 
> > (sapa aja gitaris / grup yang pernah session sama menir satu 
> > ini?). 
> > 
> > Pedoyan Led Zeppelin jarang (bukan nggak ada) yang sebel 
> > sama Deep Purple kendati keduanya beda label; DP (EMI), 
> > LZ (Swan Song). 
> > 
> > Nyelak selesai. 
> >
> 





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[proletar] France24: Hamas, Fatah agree to form government, hold elections

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
atest update: 27/04/2011 



Hamas, Fatah agree to form government, hold elections

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah party struck a deal with rival 
Islamist party Hamas in the Egyptian capital of Cairo on Wednesday to form an 
interim unity government and fix a date for general elections.

By News Wires (text)
 

REUTERS - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement and its bitter 
rival, the Islamist Hamas, struck a deal on Wednesday to form an interim unity 
government and fix a date for general election, both sides said.
 
The deal, which took many officials by surprise because of profound Fatah-Hamas 
divisions over how to resolve generations of conflict with Israel, was thrashed 
out in Egypt and followed a series of secret meetings.
 
"The two sides signed initial letters on an agreement. All points of 
differences have been overcome," Taher Al-Nono, the Hamas government spokesman 
in Gaza, told Reuters. He added that Cairo would shortly invite both sides to a 
signing ceremony.
 
The accord was first reported by Egypt's intelligence service, which brokered 
the talks.
 
In a statement carried by the Egyptian state news agency MENA, the intelligence 
service said the deal was hatched by a Hamas delegation led by Moussa Abu 
Marzouk, deputy head of the group's politburo, and Fatah Central Committee 
member Azzam al-Ahmad.
 
"The consultations resulted in full understandings on all points of 
discussions, including setting up an interim agreement with specific tasks and 
to set a date for election," the statement said.
 
It said the agreement would allow Egypt to invite all Palestinian factions to 
sign a national reconciliation agreement in Cairo in the next few days.
 
Restoring Palestinian unity is seen as crucial to reviving any prospect for a 
Palestinian state based on peaceful co-existence alongside Israel. Fatah, the 
mainstream Palestinian movement until a 2006 election victory by Hamas, backs 
negotiated peace but the Islamists reject it.
 
Al-Ahmad and Abu Marzouk said the agreement covered all points of contention, 
including forming a transitional government, security arrangements and the 
restructuring of the Palestine Liberation Organisation to allow Hamas to join 
it.
 
A senior Egyptian intelligence official told Reuters that he expected Abbas and 
Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal, who is based in Damascus, to attend the signing of 
the agreement in Cairo.





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[proletar] Orang Islam muncul sekedar membuktikan bahwa mereka itu

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Setelah terkapar dihadapan orang kafir seperti "great pretender" dan "sebuah 
kenyataan" yang dengan telak berhasil membuktikan bahwa buku taik anjing 
al-Mushaf yang dijadikan kitab suci oleh orang Islam yang dungu-dungu kayak 
babi itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene tidak berbukti ada - dan 
tidak berkutik dihadapan 'item abu" yang menunjukkan secara terperinci betapa 
dungunya, betapa buasnya, betapa zalimnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa biadabnya 
ajaran agama taik anjing Islam itu, maka orang Islam yang masih sanggup nongol 
cuma bisa kaing-kaing kayak anjing kena pentung sekedar untuk menunjukkan 
betapa dungunya, betapa busuknya dan betapa nistanya fikiran mereka atau betapa 
biadabnya, betapa bengisnya, betapa ganasnya, betapa zalimnya adab mereka itu.

Mereka sedang berebut membuktikan bahwa apa yang dikatakan oleh "item abu" itu 
benar adanya: ajaran agama Islam itu membikin penganutnya jadi manusia dungu, 
buas, zalim, kejam, keji, ganas, buas lagi biadab.













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Re: [proletar] pertanda, alamat, sign

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ajeg

Kumpulan alamat di belakang udah barang pasti mengarah 
jadi travel to romantic, betapa pun paitnya masa itu.. 
Deretan pertanda di depan.. nggak bisa enggak harus 
diupayain jadi thousand road to rumah.. (masak iye ngamar 
hotel mulu :) 

Syukurlah kalau remuk bukan pertanda redam. Sebab di 
agama bolasepak kiblat memang selalu berpindah-pindah. 
Bukan sebagai pertanda plin-plan, tapi justru alamat 
konsistennya agama demokratis ini. Aneh memang kalau si 
mumus cuma salah kamar dengan bandingan juara badminton 
All England. Padahal kaliber nyasarnya mumus normalnya ya 
ambil perbandingan data dengan juara push-up all leden. 

Luger & AK itu kaliber dance with lion; cantik, artistik, 
tapi sanggup mematikan - bukan cuma 'bisa' / 'pasti'. 
Untuk kepraktisan nenteng, glock belum ada saingannya. 
Mau di ketek, pinggang blakang, paha, atas mata kaki, 
atawa tas tangan, semua itu alamat yang tepat. 
Kalau revolveran memang lebih cocok untuk situasi terbuka, 
situasi yang nggak perlu ditutup-tutupi, ofensif. Sedangkan 
magnum.. nah, butuh kepercayaan diri yang cukup kuat buat 
nikmatin kelembutan krim berbungkus keping coklat tea... 

Jazz goyang? Funky? 

lanjut... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4r9Kl4e6YA

(wah.. Barca-Madrid dah mulai..) 

--- "liver_duke"  wrote:

> ketika sign menandai sebuah alamat, terkadang gak cukup
> untuk mengarah ke sebuah pertanda apalagi pernyataan ansich.
> namun melalui alamat yg telah melewati serangkaian pertanda
> serta berpotensi mengarah pada sign selanjutnya, nah ..
> 
> meminjam alamat piala asli yg remuk di kolong bis, semoga
> bukan bagian pertanda bahwa la furia roja bakal remuk redam
> akibat lima babak el clasico yg turut dipicu oleh andilnya mou
> sang porto yg ikut dipermalukan di perdelapan final wc 2010 lalu.
> namun sign positif bahwa dunia (seharusnya) wajar mengakui bahwa
> kiblat sepakbola bukan cuma jerman, inggris, italy, prancis yg
> memang mengepung negeri semenanjung tapi gak sampai laut itu.
> 
> jadi inget waktu gw kemaren bilang spanyol rangking satu dan
> unggulan utama di wc 2010, si muskit bilang (kurang lebihnya):
> "jangan pake data jaman rudy hartono juara all england dong"
> 
> nah, pertanda ginian pan bikin alamat jd macet, boro2 nyampe sign.
> mending kata si wonder .. signed, sealed, delivered i'm yours.
> 
> btw, luger kok berkesan feminim yag? apa masih enak diumpetin
> di balik ketek? asal jangan colt aja apalagi versi revolver,
> saban gw ngebidik 10 pasti ada 4 yg nyasar padahal 50 meter.
> 
> (sori, gw mo ngajak goyang tapi bukan ala dance with lion)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfzs00EuWMg
> 
> 
> --- "ajeg"  wrote:
> 
> > Begitulah. Orang kadang terjebak jadi caveman untuk 
> > menelusuri lagi langkah-langkah yang pernah terjadi. 
> > Tetirah ke masa lalu. 
> > 
> > Sisi lain dari DWL awal April itu adalah intronya 
> > yang ngingetin ma'e pada intro Allways Have yang bikin 
> > do'i bernapsu 'nembakin' gua pake The Sign + Someone dll. 
> > Rentetan retreat yang bawa kami berdua tetirah ke luka 
> > lama dengan tenang & senang.. bisa ngetawain diri sendiri 
> > sampe malemnya bisa nebus Cavatina yang tertunda.. ;) 
> > 
> > Ngomong soal sign yang lain, itu piala raja yang kegiles bus 
> > pertanda apa kira-kira? hehe..
> > 
> > Oke deh, slamet ngetight & fight (kalo butuh Luger atau 
> > Magnum kontak omar aja) 
> > 
> > 
> > * np: The Juvenile 
> > 
> > telling us the right to choose
> > if we have no choice 
> > it's so explosive 
> > any day will burst into a fire
> > come down and guide us
> > before it is too late
> > 
> > 
> > --- "liver_duke"  wrote:
> > 
> > > hmmm .. begini toh, dance with lion ;o)
> > > 
> > > tapi untuk sementara ini blum bisa ditanggapi, maka
> > > posting ini untuk ngasih tanda (marked) aja dulu yag.
> > > kudu bikin telaahan dulu untuk besok yg dua kabupaten
> > > mo asistensi buat kelarin perda rtrw-nya (uu 26 / 2007).
> > > 
> > > taon 2011 ini kayaknya bakal terus tight, termasuk persiapan
> > > ambil brevet penyidik sekaligus lisensi buat nenteng bareta ;o)
> >
>






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[proletar] Bls: Jusfiq junkie pikun...( PAREWA PAREWA tukang pukul...)

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Jadi PAREWA PAREWA yang dungu kayak babi itu memang tukang pukul yang buas, 
kejam, keji, zalim, ganas, buas lagi biadab...


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, PAREWA  wrote:
>
> Siapa yang mau nabokin lu Fiq. Bilang gua. Entar lu gua tabokin duluan, 
> daripada orang itu yg nabokin.
> 
> --- Pada Rab, 27/4/11, Jusfiq  menulis:
> 
> Dari: Jusfiq 
> Judul: [proletar] Jusfiq junkie pikun was Re: Selain Surya
> Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Rabu, 27 April, 2011, 1:00 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
>   Jadi rezameutia bajingan pendusta itu ngibul lagi...
> 
> 
> 
> Saya bilang:
> 
> 
> 
> "Saya tentu saja nggak mau, lalu saya mau ditabok."
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > nih pengakuan jusfiq yang udah yua bangka masih digampar orang.
> 
> > 
> 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/200202
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Jumlah bajingan Islam itu banyak koq, makanya ga heran kalo misalnya ada 
> > > cewek 
> 
> > > diperkosa rame2 oleh orang banyak di muka umum kayak si reporter CBS.
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > Jadi kalo orang di milis ini rame2 ngefitnah itu ga nunjukin yg difitnah 
> > > itu yg 
> 
> > > salah. Yg jelas kan yg rame2 ngefitnah itu adalah orang Islam plus habe, 
> 
> > > hehehe...
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > From: rezameutia 
> 
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > > Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 12:42:01 AM
> 
> > > Subject: [proletar] Jusfiq junkie pikun was Re: Selain Surya
> 
> > > 
> 
> > >
> 
> > > anda bego jusfiq.
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > buktinya anda udah tua kayak gini masih digamparin orang, itu artinya 
> > > anda 
> 
> > > begonya kelewatan banget. kalo otak anda normal dan waras, nggak mungkin 
> > > orang 
> 
> > > setua anda digamparin orang.
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > mana ada sih orang tua bangka digamparin?
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Menyebar dusta dan fitnah, itulah yang dilakukan rezameutia sejak 
> 
> > > >bertahun-tahun, sejak dia memakai account Deden Tam  
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Dan suryana dengan gairahnya menjilat pantat bajingan pendusta dan 
> > > > bangsat 
> 
> > > >tukang fitnah itu.
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Dusta pertamanya: 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > saya tidak berkata saya minum anggur tiap hari, tapi ketika kami makan 
> > > > masakan 
> 
> > > >Eropa, sesuai dengan anjuran berbagai lembaga kesehatan di Eropa: 
> > > >masakan Asia 
> 
> > > >yang juga sering kami makan tidak cocok untuk diiringi dengan anggur, 
> > > >tapi 
> 
> > > >dengan teh atau air putih.
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Dusta kedua..
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Saya bercerita kami - berdua - menghabiskan sebotol anggur dua hari dan 
> 
> > > >BUKANNNYA saya sendirian.
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Dusta ketiga:  saya dengan jelas bercerita bahwa saya hanya mengisap 
> > > > ganja satu 
> 
> > > >kali dan memang tidak ada pengaruh apa-apanya terhadap otak saya.
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Otak saya jelas tetap sehat, beda dari otak rezameutia yang dirusak 
> > > > ajaran 
> 
> > > >Islam lalu ketimpa bucaillisme dan yang mikir juga cuma bisa pake kontol 
> > > >yang 
> 
> > > >nota bene menderita premature ejaculation..
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> 
> > > > >
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> 
> > > > > >
> 
> > > > > > 
> 
> > > > > > Bangsat penipu inilah yang pantatnya suka dijilat oleh Suryana..
> 
> > > > > > 
> 
> > > > > > Bajingan tukang fitnah inilah yang pantatanya suka dijilat oleh 
> > > > > > Suryana..
> 
> > > > > > 
> 
> > > > > > Saya yang bercerita mengisap ganja satu kali, lantas kapok, 
> > > > > > difitnahnya 
> 
> > > >junkie.
> 
> > > > > > 
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > masak saya fitnah?
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > coba deh anda jangan terlalu bego, bagaimana mungkin anda menghisap 
> > > > > ganja 
> 
> > > >satu kali lantas otak anda bisa ciut seperti biji peler dan akibatnya 
> > > >anda bego 
> 
> > > >sampe tua kayak gini?!
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > anda ini penipu dan pembohong yang bego. 
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > orang yang menghisap ganja satu kali tidak akan bego dan tolol 
> > > > > seperti anda 
> 
> > > >ini.  supaya anda tau aja, menghisap ganja satu kali tidak akan ada 
> > > >pengaruh 
> 
> > > >apa2 sama sekali.  berbeda dengan junkie seperti anda yang otaknya ciut 
> > > >seperti 
> 
> > > >biji peler sehingga anda jadi bego sampe tua bangka.
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > 
> 
> > > > > > Saya yang berusaha menurutkan nasehat berbagai lembaga kesehatan di 
> > > > > > Eropa 
> 
> > > >untuk mengikuti diet mediteranian yang terdiri dari banyak sayur serta 
> 
> > > >buah-buahan, minyak zaitun, dan ikan yang menga

Re: [proletar] Re: pertanda, alamat, sign

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik suryana
FN ajah Boss biar rada seimbang dengan badan mah.
( FN n Luger sama apa gak sih ? ), aku pernah sekali
nyoba pakai Magnum dirty harry, sekali berondong langsung
abis pelornya, ditegor sama yang punya pestol, aku balik nanya
targetnya kena gak, di bilang nge deret ke bawah dari otak sampai dagu
hehehe..dah sampai mati aku gak mau pegang pestol beneran lagi
bawaannya ntar jadi kayak Parto deh.

sur.
- Original Message - 
From: "liver_duke" 
> 
> btw, luger kok berkesan feminim yag? apa masih enak diumpetin
> di balik ketek? asal jangan colt aja apalagi versi revolver,
> saban gw ngebidik 10 pasti ada 4 yg nyasar padahal 50 meter.
>




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[proletar] BBC: Palestinian rivals Fatah and Hamas 'agree to end rift'

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
27 April 2011 Last updated at 18:28 GMT

Palestinian rivals Fatah and Hamas 'agree to end rift'
Mahmoud Abbas (L) and Khaled Meshaal, file pic Fatah and Hamas have been 
bitterly divided for more than four years

The Fatah party of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas, 
which governs Gaza, have agreed a reconciliation deal, officials say.

Under the Egyptian-brokered deal, an interim government will be formed and a 
date fixed for elections.

The groups have been divided for more than four years, with Hamas in power in 
Gaza and Fatah running the West Bank.

Israel immediately said that the Palestinian Authority could not have peace 
with both Hamas and Israel.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said: "I hope the Palestinian 
Authority will make the right choice - peace with Israel."

Hamas has carried out bombings and rocket attacks against Israel for years and 
does not recognise its right to exist.

The US responded to the news by saying that any Palestinian unity government 
would have to renounce violence and recognise Israel.

--


Analysis

In recent years relations between the two main Palestinian factions have been 
nothing short of poisonous. Hamas has consistently refused to recognise the 
legitimacy and authority of Mr Abbas, because it says his term of office 
expired more than a year ago. Fatah loyalists have often been unable to hide 
their hatred of fundamentalist hard-liners in Hamas who took control of Gaza in 
2007.

But Palestinian unity is a goal cherished by most people in Gaza and the West 
Bank, who say that the four-year split has seriously undermined and harmed 
chances of the creation of an independent Palestinian state.

But there is still a long way to go. Elections would have to be held in Gaza 
and the West Bank, presumably later this year for a new Palestinian parliament 
and the presidency. Also, as Hamas is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by 
many Western countries, it is difficult to see how they could co-operate with 
any future administration unless Hamas formally changes its attitude and 
constitution vis-a-vis Israel.

--

Thousands of Palestinians protested in Gaza this month, calling for 
reconciliation.

The protests were inspired by uprisings elsewhere in the Middle East and North 
Africa.

The split between Fatah and Hamas occurred when violence erupted a year after 
Hamas won Palestinian elections in 2006. Hamas seized control of Gaza in 2007.

Signing ceremony

Tahir al-Nounou, a Hamas government spokesman who was at the meeting in the 
Egyptian capital, Cairo, where the deal was hammered out, told the BBC: "Hamas 
and Fatah have signed in principle a reconciliation deal in Cairo.

"The final signing will be in a week from now. Cairo will invite Mahmoud Abbas 
and [Hamas leader] Khaled Meshaal, and representatives from all Palestinian 
factions, to attend the signing."

Mr Nounou said all disagreements had been overcome.

He said of Israel's response to the deal that Israel was "not concerned with 
Palestinian reconciliation and has been an impediment to it in the past".

Fatah and Hamas had been close to a deal last year but Hamas withdrew, saying 
the terms had been revised without its agreement. Mr Abbas has since been 
pushing for reconciliation.

Fatah delegation head Azzam al-Ahmad said: "We have agreed to form a government 
composed of independent figures that would start preparing for presidential and 
parliamentary elections.

"Elections would be held in about eight months from now," he said.

The BBC's Jonathan Head in Cairo says that if the deal goes ahead, it will end 
five years of bitter hostility between the two sides and remove a significant 
barrier to the Palestinian campaign for statehood.

Continue reading the main story
Fatah-Hamas Rivalry

January 2006 - Hamas wins Palestinian Authority legislative election
March 2006 - Hamas government sworn in. US and EU suspend ties.
February-March 2007 - Fatah and Hamas agree to form coalition to end 
growing factional warfare
June 2007 - Hamas seizes control of Gaza from Fatah after continued 
fighting. Unity government dissolved, Israel tightens blockade of Gaza Strip.

But he says there are many difficult issues to resolve - such as how the two 
factions will share security, how Gaza and the West Bank, separated by Israeli 
territory, will be governed, and whether the international donors will be 
willing to recognise Hamas.

The BBC's Wyre Davies in Jerusalem says the Netanyahu government has repeatedly 
said it will not sit down and talk about a two-state solution if Hamas is any 
way involved.

Mr Netanyahu told the Palestinian Authority on Tuesday: "There cannot be peace 
with both [Israel and Hamas] because Hamas wants to destroy Israel and says so 
openly. It shoots missiles at our cities, it fires anti-tank missiles at our 
children.

"I think that the idea of reconciliation shows the weakness of the Palestinian 
Authority and raises the quest

Re: [proletar] lagi, mengkaji guru

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik suryana
BUnda Teresa menjadi ikon kontroversi Vatikan, karena tidak ada ordo khusus 
perempuan yang bisa menjalankan sepetrti apa yang diharapkan oleh Bunda 
Teresa, sehingga Vatikan menganggap kemauan Bunda Teresa bisa merusak image 
Katholik Roma, yang selalu berusaha untuk memberikan image yang baik ke 
masyarakat awam sedunia, dan dikhawatirkan bila satu lolos akan timbul Bunda 
Tersea lainnya, ( terbukti di India setelah wafatnya Bunda Teresa penerusnya 
melakukan katholikisasi sehingga kena marah masyarakat setempat ).
Dan menjadi diakui sebagai pribadi yang teguh dengan pendiriannya oleh 
Vatikan sehingga tidak lagi di lepas begitu saja.
Bunda Teresa didalam melakukan tugasnya tidak pernah membawa bawa Katholik 
terhadap siapa yang dibantu nya , dengan demikian India tidak ambil pusing 
malah akhirnya pusing sendiri karena tidak ada celah untuk menolak kehadiran 
Bunda Teresa.
CMMIIW

Ps Paus yang sebenarnya tetap Paus yang sekarang, yang sebelumnya akan 
menjadi Santo tinggal 1 tahap lagi, bila ada mukjijat kesembuhan karena 
berdoa kepada Allah/Bapa, Yesus dan Paus Yohannes, untuk permintaan doa yang 
lain konon sudah banyak yang cespleng, sehingga tinggal setapak lagi menjadi 
Santo, Santo maksudnya menjadi orang suci, dan hal ini memang tidak mudah, 
tidak semua Paus menjadi Santo.
Ada pula yang langsung menjadi Santo ketika meninggal , semua tergantung 
amal baik nya ketika memimpin Katholik.

sur.
- Original Message - 
From: "ajeg" 


>
> Bunda Teresa, hmmm... biarawati paling cakep.
> Seperti itulah harusnya "mempelai" Yesus.
> Bagi saya, Bu Teresa adalah Paus yang sebenarnya..
>
> Bisa cerita lebih jauh tentang beliauwati,
> terutama seputar pertikaiannya dengan Vatikan
> (dan biarawati-biarawati tukang ngerumpi)?
> Atau, kenapa Vatikan baru menerima / mengakui
> Bu Teresa setelah dia sukses & populer dengan
> ordonya sendiri.
>
> Bagus, sampeyan bawa contoh yang bagus untuk
> topik ini. Bu Teresa & Gus Dur saya kira bukan
> serius-seriusan berkristen-ria dan berislam-ria,
> tapi betul-betul sekedar beragama. Bermanusia
> yang baik & benar tanpa mau pusing dengan label.
>
> Sedangkan para tolol yang sok beragama, seolah
> paling cs sama tuhan, tentu bukan cuma DR Azahari
> & Amrozy cs serta Rinaldy Damanik & Antonius
> Bawengan cs. Tapi juga bisa siapa saja yang tolol
> dan terus-menerus memperbodoh dirinya. Bukan begitu?
>
> Begitu bukan?





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[proletar] Re: hati2 provokator ("ndeboost" itu jelas sudah gila...

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Belum juga "ndeboost" yanag memang sedeng ini sadar bahwa kerjaannya ngeributin 
ajaran agama Nasrani yang sudah sejak berabad-abad disikapi secara kritis oleh 
orang Nasrani sendiri adalah sia-sia dan bahwa yang kudu diributkan dan 
dirisaukannya adalah ajaran agama taik anjing Islam yang diantunya dan yang 
ternyata hanya berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan orang Arab primitif...


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> Pak @Yusfliak dasar gimana gitu. Mau tak ketawain sdh gaek jadinya ga
> pas namun dibiarkan kok menjadi-jadi. Bukannya "kafir" yg dia kupas
> namun malah ngajari nDeboost itung-itungan. Kamu sdh jadi (pembela)
> Kristen ya? Ga usah malu-malu ketimbang malu-maluin, dungu! nT kira
> nDeboost ngitung tuh jumlah kata "kafir"?
> 
> Ya baikan tak kasih tahu. nDeboost ga ngitung tuh jumlah kata "kafir".
> Cuma iseng kepingin tahu, siapa tahu berhadiah, eh, manfaat.
> 
> Coba nT klik alamat web ini
> http://sabdaweb.sabda.org/home/ Lalu ada space di kiri "Cari" tulis
> "kafir" kemudian klik "Cari". nT akan baca jumlah ayat mengenai "kafir",
> by default, ke Terj Baru (3x). Lalu dikanan agak atas di kanan
> "Terjemahan Baru" ada button, anda klik dan cari "Terj. Lama". Klik lagi
> tuh button. Akan nT jumpai (274x)
> 
> Nah sekarang ketimbang tereak-terak yg para Kristen sdh mengkritisi
> Bibelnya sejak dulu, kasih saja link-linknya. Takut dimarahi Boss?
> Kasian deh lu.
> 
> BOT
> Silahkan donk Pak mewakili tuh @dapurmu. Mau kan Pak?
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > "ndeboost" berotak babi ngitung kata-kata kafir di LAI...
> >
> > Kerjaan sia-sia manusia berotak babi yang ngurus urusan orang Nasrani
> yang telah
> > sejak lama diurus oleh orang Narani sendiri, saat dia sendiri tidak
> mengurus
> > buku taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikannnya kitab suci dan yang
> telah
> > dibuktikan oleh orang kafir seperti "great pretender" dan "sebuah
> kenyataan"
> > TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah yang nlta ben e tidk berbukti ada.
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Dari >200 kata "kafir" di Bibel LAI76 (Terj. Lama) tinggal tersisa 3
> > > (baca: tiga) di Bibel LAI06 (Terj. Baru). Salah satunya:
> > >
> > > Mat 5:22
> > > LAI06 Tetapi Aku berkata kepadamu: Setiap orang yang marah terhadap
> > > saudaranya harus dihukum; siapa yang berkata kepada saudaranya:
> Kafir!
> > > harus dihadapkan ke Mahkamah Agama dan siapa yang berkata: Jahil!
> harus
> > > diserahkan ke dalam neraka yang menyala-nyala.
> > >
> > > LAI76 Tetapi Aku berkata kepadamu, bahwa tiap-tiap orang yang marah
> akan
> > > saudaranya, ia akan terkena hukum; dan barangsiapa yang berkata
> kepada
> > > saudaranya: Hai jahil! ia akan dihukumkan oleh majelis besar; dan
> > > barangsiapa yang berkata: Hai gila! ia akan terkena hukum masuk api
> > > neraka.
> > >
> > > Padahal di LAI76 ga ada kata "kafir" loh.
> > >
> > > BTW,
> > >
> > > "Mahkamah agama" atau "majelis besar" kek apa ya? Di
> > > NKRI ada ga?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hehehe... kalo auloh bilang non muslim itu kafir, makhluk yg
> paling
> > > rendah,
> > > > najis, ga bisa dipercaya dll, auloh itu provokator apa bukan?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: Abbas Amin abas_amin08@
> > > > To: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 12:06:20 PM
> > > > Subject: [proletar] hati2 provokator
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Baik dari golongan Islam, maupun golongan Kresten ada
> provokatornya.
> > > > Kita mengetahui, disetiap agama, ada golongan2nya; terbagi secara
> Umum
> > > :
> > > >
> > > > 1. Golongan keras - bermusuhan
> > > > 2. Golongan Moderat - toleransi tingi
> > > > 3. Golongan low profile - semua untuk pribadi
> > > >
> > > > ketiga golongan ini berinteraksi dan bisa saling mempengaruhi;
> tapi
> > > yang
> > > > menonjol adalah golongan KERAS mempengaruhi golongan lainnya.
> > > >
> > > > Selain itu, ada pula segolongan yaitu PROVOKATOR; ini bisa dari
> mana
> > > saja;
> > > > tugasnya adalah menyebar kebencian dimana mana.
> > > >
> > > > Kita harus hati2 menanggapinya; kalau terpancing; maka kitalah
> yang
> > > GOBLOK dan
> > > > TOLOL. Sehingga misalnya kita ikut2 maki agama orang lain. Padahal
> > > yang maki
> > > > agama kita belum tentu dari golongan agama yang kita kira lawan
> kita.
> > > >
> > > > Bisa juga orang yang beragama jadi provokator; sengaja makin
> membuat
> > > panas
> > > > situasi, bukan meredam malah menyi5ramnya dengan bensin; akibatnya
> > > kesalah
> > > > pahaman makin melebar; upaya untuk saling toleransi makin sulit.
> > > >
> > > > Menjawab suatu kritik agama harus hati2; kalau tidak, kitapun akan
> > > masuk jadi
> > > > provokator juga.Kalau tak bisa membuat suasana jadi dingin karena
> > > kemampuan kita
> > > > yang kurang memadai, mendingan nggak usah bicara; itu lebih baik;
> dari
> > > pada
> > > > cu

[proletar] fall state index?

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik liver_duke
contoh, kenapa perlu digalakkan ada program manajemen mitigasi
semacam penanggulangan kebakaran termasuk pengadaan mobil pemadam
kebakaran yg gak murah itu? sehingga menjadi gak populer melalui
pendekatan manajemen pencegahan termasuk pengelolaan mitigasi.

fenomena akutnya : bangsa ini dididik reaktif, not preventive.
kebakaran, tsunami, kemiskinan, teror dan bom, korupsi, agama,
adalah proyek yg menjanjikan. klo gak ada kebakaran, gimana bisa
beli mobil pemadamnya? lantas bubarin aja kantor urusan kebakaran.
maka agar kantor dan pejabatnya bekerja, perlu ada kebakaran bahkan
bikinlah kebakaran (buat gusur misalnya) lantas usulan beli mobil.
kemudian bikin laporan evaluasi bahwa taon ini sukses melaksanakan
pemadaman, yg semakin tinggi frekwensinya berarti semakin tinggi
pula usulan anggaran mendatangnya. itulah kinerja keberhasilan.

mirip lennon minjem kalimat marx, semakin goblok sekaligus miskin
penduduknya maka makin subur dan taat pula agamanya kayak nyandu.
bisa pinter dikit, pecah belahlah. baru mo kaya, lemparin teror.
pengen nyanyi bentar ato nyante nikmatin bola, langsung gorok.

eh, ngapain gw kejerumus bahas gini yag

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[proletar] Re: Zeppelin Say : the thought, the unthought and the unthinkable

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik liver_duke
ikutan, terutama cuma perkara the zepp (and purple)

sepakat banget dgn alinea awal, dan gw contoh bagusnya.
apa sih yg boleh menarik dari si purple? made in japan?
mereka cuma boleh ditandai dari biji2an ketika tersebar,
saat the lord membentuk project windows bareng schoener.
ato mighty gillan melafalkan if you believe me bareng
colins town sekaligus pamer fussion "money lender", juga
dahsyatnya "in the still of the night" versi uler albino.

artinya bolehlah mereka klaim sbg gerombolan dgn predikat
super termasuk reputasi bongkar pasang hingga 6 formasi.
fakta yg sekaligus akan masuk ke paragraf berikutnya bahwa
peseneng purpel boleh belagak omnivora kecuali heavy metal.

apa itu heavy metal? pakem ini dikandung di sepanjang era
yardbirds bikin perkara, namun baru lahir dan dibesarkan
justru ketika sang bozo wafat meninggalkan master print.

cuma satu nama yg bisa bikin itu, the unthought and
the unthinkable .. serta gak akan pernah bisa ada lagi.

[we wish it to be known that the loss of our dear friend,
have led us to decide that we could not continue as we were,
and was simply signed .. zepp] 


--- "ajeg"  wrote:
>
> 
> Numpang nyelak, 
> 
> Pedoyan Led Zeppelin umumnya doyan apa aja yang asyik di 
> kuping tembus ke pedaleman. Sedangkan peseneng Deep Purple 
> umumnya juga doyan apa aja kecuali Led Zeppelin, ha ha ha ... 
> 
> Nggak anehlah, barangkali mereka terpengaruh keangkuhan 
> menir Blackmore yang ngerasa paling ngguitar hero sendirian 
> (sapa aja gitaris / grup yang pernah session sama menir satu 
> ini?). 
> 
> Pedoyan Led Zeppelin jarang (bukan nggak ada) yang sebel 
> sama Deep Purple kendati keduanya beda label; DP (EMI), 
> LZ (Swan Song). 
> 
> Nyelak selesai. 
>





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[proletar] wertz

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik duke
with one eye on the clock
and one on the phone
it's 5:19 ..
i'm feeling alone
if i could talk to you
i'd want you to know
i'm holding loose
but ain't letting go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqI0DBoMgJU


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[proletar] marun lima

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik duke
nyaris sepuluh taon lalu saat gw pernah bahas kelompok ini
terutama untuk lagu "sweetest goodbye" (lantas muncul di film
"love actually"), beberapa temen jadi heran bahkan ngetawain.

padahal panduan gw cuman subjektif: inkarnasi-nya "bad company".

eh nyatanya gak sampai lima taon, brondong ini lantas dipuja.
dan sementara itu gw udah beralih lagi ke kelompok sejenis yg
punya format "back to old skul", sebutlahlah sebangsa kelompok
"thirsty merc" from oz, ato "matt wertz" mewakili country.

http://endyonisius.multiply.com/journal/item/5/in_the_summertime

namun kali ini gw yakin, dua nama contoh pemusik di atas sampe
sekarang bisa dihitung gk lebih dari 100 yg pernah denger di indo.

ok .. sekadar menghibur diri lantaran (lagi-lagi) gk bisa ikutan
goyang di senayan ala rezameutia yg sampe orgasme di java jazz ;o)


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[proletar] MI: Bahan Baku Bom Ditemukan di Rumah Kontrakan Pepi

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Nggak heran bila banyak orang yang denger kata "Islam", lantas ngebayangin 
teror..

Islam itu, saya bilang dan saya ulang, adalah laknat buat ummat manusia, 
artinya juga buat orang Islam sendiri.

--


Bahan Baku Bom Ditemukan di Rumah Kontrakan Pepi
Rabu, 27 April 2011 16:50 WIB 
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Bahan Baku Bom Ditemukan di Rumah Kontrakan Pepi
ANTARA/Ampelsas/wt
TERKAIT

*
  Perbaikan Kesejahteraan Langkah untuk Tekan Radikalisme
*
  Penjahit dan Guru Vokal Ikut Danai Aksi Kelompok Pepi
*
  6 dari 17 Tersangka Teroris Bergelar Sarjana

BANDA ACEH--MICOM: Aparat kepolisian menemukan sejumlah bahan baku pembuat bom 
di rumah kontrakan tersangka teroris Fadil warga Banda Aceh, Romi alias Pepi 
warga Sukabumi, dan Hendi alias Joko warga Bogor, di jalan Panglateh Taman 
Siswa, Gampong Merduati, Kecamatan Kuta Raja, Kota Banda Aceh.

Bahan baku perakit bom tersebut ditemukan Rabu (27/4) sekitar pukul 15.00 WIB, 
setelah aparat kepolisian Densus 88 Antiteror dan Gegana Brimob Polri, 
menggeledah seisi rumah kontrakan tersebut sejak Selasa (26/4) sore.

Bahan baku perakit bom seperti sulfur (belerang), serbuk potasium nitrat (KN 
03), bahan-bahan elektro perakit bom, buku sandi teroris dan beberapa poster, 
ditanam di lantai dapur rumah kontrakan itu.

Berdasarkan informasi di lokasi kejadian perkara (TKP) disebutkan bahan baku 
pembuat bom itu ditanam dengan kedalaman sekitar 30 centimeter. Barang bukti 
tersebut kini telah diamankan aparat kepolisian Polda Aceh.

Sementara itu, aparat Densus 88 Antiteror juga telah mengamankan tiga orang 
yang diduga terkait dengan jaringan terorisme di rumah kontrakan tersebut pada 
Jumat (22/4). Ketiga tersangka teroris itu, seorang adalah warga Merduati yakni 
Fadhil dan dua lainnya adalah pendatang dari Pulau Jawa, kini telah diboyong ke 
Jakarta.

Kabid Humas Polda Aceh Kombes Farid AS membenarkan adanya penangkapan tiga 
orang di Merduati pada Jumat (24/4), dan kini ketiganya dibawa ke Jakarta untuk 
penyelidikan lebih lanjut.

Informasi lain menyebutkan aparat kepolisian mengamankan enam orang di kawasan 
Simpang Rima, Kecamatan Peukan Bada Kabupaten Aceh Besar pada Rabu (26/4). 
Namun, belum diperoleh informasi resmi dari aparat kepolisian terkait enam 
orang yang diamankan di kawasan Kecamatan Peukan Bada itu. (Ant/wt/X-12) 





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[proletar] Re: hati2 provokator ("ndeboost" berotak babi ngitung kata-kata kafir di LAI.

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Pak @Yusfliak dasar gimana gitu. Mau tak ketawain sdh gaek jadinya ga
pas namun dibiarkan kok menjadi-jadi. Bukannya "kafir" yg dia kupas
namun malah ngajari nDeboost itung-itungan. Kamu sdh jadi (pembela)
Kristen ya? Ga usah malu-malu ketimbang malu-maluin, dungu! nT kira
nDeboost ngitung tuh jumlah kata "kafir"?

Ya baikan tak kasih tahu. nDeboost ga ngitung tuh jumlah kata "kafir".
Cuma iseng kepingin tahu, siapa tahu berhadiah, eh, manfaat.

Coba nT klik alamat web ini
http://sabdaweb.sabda.org/home/ Lalu ada space di kiri "Cari" tulis
"kafir" kemudian klik "Cari". nT akan baca jumlah ayat mengenai "kafir",
by default, ke Terj Baru (3x). Lalu dikanan agak atas di kanan
"Terjemahan Baru" ada button, anda klik dan cari "Terj. Lama". Klik lagi
tuh button. Akan nT jumpai (274x)

Nah sekarang ketimbang tereak-terak yg para Kristen sdh mengkritisi
Bibelnya sejak dulu, kasih saja link-linknya. Takut dimarahi Boss?
Kasian deh lu.

BOT
Silahkan donk Pak mewakili tuh @dapurmu. Mau kan Pak?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
>
> "ndeboost" berotak babi ngitung kata-kata kafir di LAI...
>
> Kerjaan sia-sia manusia berotak babi yang ngurus urusan orang Nasrani
yang telah
> sejak lama diurus oleh orang Narani sendiri, saat dia sendiri tidak
mengurus
> buku taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikannnya kitab suci dan yang
telah
> dibuktikan oleh orang kafir seperti "great pretender" dan "sebuah
kenyataan"
> TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah yang nlta ben e tidk berbukti ada.
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ wrote:
> >
> > Dari >200 kata "kafir" di Bibel LAI76 (Terj. Lama) tinggal tersisa 3
> > (baca: tiga) di Bibel LAI06 (Terj. Baru). Salah satunya:
> >
> > Mat 5:22
> > LAI06 Tetapi Aku berkata kepadamu: Setiap orang yang marah terhadap
> > saudaranya harus dihukum; siapa yang berkata kepada saudaranya:
Kafir!
> > harus dihadapkan ke Mahkamah Agama dan siapa yang berkata: Jahil!
harus
> > diserahkan ke dalam neraka yang menyala-nyala.
> >
> > LAI76 Tetapi Aku berkata kepadamu, bahwa tiap-tiap orang yang marah
akan
> > saudaranya, ia akan terkena hukum; dan barangsiapa yang berkata
kepada
> > saudaranya: Hai jahil! ia akan dihukumkan oleh majelis besar; dan
> > barangsiapa yang berkata: Hai gila! ia akan terkena hukum masuk api
> > neraka.
> >
> > Padahal di LAI76 ga ada kata "kafir" loh.
> >
> > BTW,
> >
> > "Mahkamah agama" atau "majelis besar" kek apa ya? Di
> > NKRI ada ga?
> >
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hehehe... kalo auloh bilang non muslim itu kafir, makhluk yg
paling
> > rendah,
> > > najis, ga bisa dipercaya dll, auloh itu provokator apa bukan?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Abbas Amin abas_amin08@
> > > To: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 12:06:20 PM
> > > Subject: [proletar] hati2 provokator
> > >
> > >
> > > Baik dari golongan Islam, maupun golongan Kresten ada
provokatornya.
> > > Kita mengetahui, disetiap agama, ada golongan2nya; terbagi secara
Umum
> > :
> > >
> > > 1. Golongan keras - bermusuhan
> > > 2. Golongan Moderat - toleransi tingi
> > > 3. Golongan low profile - semua untuk pribadi
> > >
> > > ketiga golongan ini berinteraksi dan bisa saling mempengaruhi;
tapi
> > yang
> > > menonjol adalah golongan KERAS mempengaruhi golongan lainnya.
> > >
> > > Selain itu, ada pula segolongan yaitu PROVOKATOR; ini bisa dari
mana
> > saja;
> > > tugasnya adalah menyebar kebencian dimana mana.
> > >
> > > Kita harus hati2 menanggapinya; kalau terpancing; maka kitalah
yang
> > GOBLOK dan
> > > TOLOL. Sehingga misalnya kita ikut2 maki agama orang lain. Padahal
> > yang maki
> > > agama kita belum tentu dari golongan agama yang kita kira lawan
kita.
> > >
> > > Bisa juga orang yang beragama jadi provokator; sengaja makin
membuat
> > panas
> > > situasi, bukan meredam malah menyi5ramnya dengan bensin; akibatnya
> > kesalah
> > > pahaman makin melebar; upaya untuk saling toleransi makin sulit.
> > >
> > > Menjawab suatu kritik agama harus hati2; kalau tidak, kitapun akan
> > masuk jadi
> > > provokator juga.Kalau tak bisa membuat suasana jadi dingin karena
> > kemampuan kita
> > > yang kurang memadai, mendingan nggak usah bicara; itu lebih baik;
dari
> > pada
> > > cuap2 maki2 agama lain.
> > >
> > > Yang tertawa terbahak bahak; yaaah provokator itu ! Senang mereka.
> > > Saya melihat sekarang ini DUTA2 Islam yang ada di milis P4roletar
> > kebanyakan ADU
> > > maki dengan yang dituduh Kresten; padahal belum TENTU. Setelah
keluar
> > maki2;
> > > maka yang benar2 Kresten jelas saja akan tersinggung; dan kalau
mereka
> > memaki
> > > balik, dan ikut ngeroyok duta2 Islam tersebut; sangat wajar.
> > >
> > > Saya pribadi berharap toleransi tetap harus dijaga. Jadi ada
rambu2
> > tersendiri
> > > dalam hal ini. Sembarang memaki agama lain orang, hanya akan
buang2
> > waktu
> > > percuma saja; hasil tak ada. Bahkan makin lama makin sakit hati
saja
> > yang
> 

[proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Loh kalau ngopas ya sedikit mikirlah, siap kalau ada yg ngerespon gitu.
He he he kok lalu ngatain nDeboost.. yg nyangkut-nyangkutin dg NU. nT
baca sendirilah.

Ada rombongan liwat kok sdh gimana gitu.

Lah wong sdh di deklarasikan Siaga-1 nT masih khawatir? Jadi apa
kelebihan deklarasi ini kalau nT pada ga reti?

Btw, OOT
nurut imannya (CMIIW) crosstian kan kalau terjadi sesuatu dg mereka 
langsung terselamatkan? Apa disono ga enak?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura"  wrote:
>
> Bego banget sih...udah ketahuan ada link beritanya pake nanya tau dari
manaFPI emang menakutkan koq..apanya yg salah kalo tu orang kristen
ketakutan ?nah kamu ngaitin NU dgn Jombang dan toleransi yg
dibangun-nya  aja ngga becusngga tau juga nih antara oon beneran
atau pura pura...
> -Original Message-
> From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@...
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:44:58
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
>
> Mengganggu? Apanya yg diganggu?  Sdh stress beratlah yao sampai ga
> meyakini pengawalan alat negara?
> Ga pernah-pernah loh ada Siaga-1 utk kondisi aman tentram dan damai
> sampai-sampai mesjid yg sebelumnya di duwr ga (formal) dijaga.
>
> Lalu apa sangkut pautnya sama NU? Kasian dah. Takut dan curiga
> menjadi-jadi. Lah wong para FPI mau sowan nT ketakutan. Kalau ga salah
> kenapa harus merasa takut? 'Mangnya nT tahu dari mana kalau yg liwat
itu
> FPI?
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "widura" a.widura@ wrote:
> >
> > Nah disini nih anehnya...jombang itu markasnya PBNU yg katanya
> toleran...tapi kalo liat kaya gini ?...kontradiksi sekali...paling
aman
> sih bilang kalo itu bukan NU tapi FPI...cuma koq FPI didiamkan saja
> berbuat seperti itu...
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "sunny" ambon@
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:47
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> >
> >
>
http://www.kbr68h.com/berita/daerah/5439-fpi-ganggu-perayaan-paskah-di-j\
\
> ombang
> >
> >
> > FPI Ganggu Perayaan Paskah di Jombang
> > Monday, 25 April 2011 07:51
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> >
> >
> > KBR68H, Jombang - Sejumlah warga umat Kristiani di Jombang Jawa
Timur
> mengaku tidak berani menjalankan ibadah dan merayakan Paskah di
gereja,
> pada Minggu kemarin. Hal itu disebabkan kedatangan ribuan orang
anggota
> milisi sipil FPI dari berbagai daerah. Pendeta Christian Muskanan,
dari
> Persekutuan Gereja dan Lembaga Injil Indonesia (PGLII) Jombang
> menyebutkan, warga tetap khawatir meski gereja-gereja dijaga aparat
> kepolisian. Warga khawatir karena selama ini FPI lebih banyak dikenal
> dengan aksi-aksi anarkisnya.
> >
> > "Jelas dalam sisi kemanusiaan merasa was-was juga, merasa kuatir,
> cemas sehingga ada banyak umat mendengar mereka enggan mau ikut
ibadah.
> Takut dengan adanya kehadiran FPI dari berbagai macam daerah diluar
> Jombang. Kalau Jombang saja mungkin ya bisa diterima tapi ini dari
luar
> Jombang yang seakan -akan sehingga acara mereka sudah membuat umat ini
> bertanya -tanya apakan kita ini aman nggak dalam ibadah ini."
> >
> > Kemarin, ribuan orang mengenakan atribut kelompok milisi sipil FPI
> membanjiri Jombang Jawa Timur. Mereka datang dari berbagai daerah
untuk
> menghadiri pengajian akbar FPI.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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[proletar] Repost: Outrageous verdict

2011-04-27 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Mau tahu perampok? Paulus!!
KATEBE yg ditantang Yesus sbg pengembala umatnya adalah Petrus.

Yoh 21:15 Sesudah sarapan Yesus berkata kepada Simon Petrus: "Simon,
anak Yohanes, apakah engkau mengasihi Aku lebih dari pada mereka ini?"
Jawab Petrus kepada-Nya: "Benar Tuhan, Engkau tahu, bahwa aku mengasihi
Engkau." Kata Yesus kepadanya: "Gembalakanlah domba-domba-Ku."

Petrus ditantang Yesus sampai 3x (Yoh 21:15-17) dan Petrus njawabnya
juga 3x. Apa Yesus lupa pembicaraannya ya?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> Mautahu tukang perkosa? Paulus!!
> KATEBE Ajaran Yesus dibilangnya susu. Padahal Yesus bilangnya yg
> disampaikan adalah dari Bapa.
>
> Mau tahu pembunuh? Paulus!!
> KATEBE Yesus digantung di tiang jemuran sampai kering lalu mati
> berdasarkan kutukan Paulus
>
> Mau tahu perampok? Paulus!!
> KATEBE yg ditantang Yesus sbg pengembala umatnya adalah Petrus.
>
> Mau tahu pendusta? Paulus!!
> Silahkan periksa Rome 3:7
>
> Mau tahu yg mencla-mencle? Paulus!!
> Hari ini dia bilang orang anu mbesok orang anu
>
> Paulus ini KATEBE 1/2 anjing (Yunani, kafir), 1/2 Yahudi.
> Kalau kelak ketemu Yesus a.s termasuk yg bakalan diadili ga?
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
> >
> > Mau jadi tukang merkosa? Masuk islam aja, hehehe
> >
> > Islam itu emang agama yg benar unt tukang merkosa.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: sunny ambon@
> > To: Undisclosed-Recipient@
> > Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 7:58:17 PM
> > Subject: [proletar] Outrageous verdict
> >
> >
> >
> > http://arabnews.com/opinion/editorial/article369994.ece
> >
> > Editorial
> > Apr 22, 2011 22:19
> > Outrageous verdict
> > The acquittal in the Mukhtaran Mai case is a blow to Pakistan itself
> and to its
> > legal system
> >
> > The acquittal by Pakistan's Supreme Court of five of the six men
> charged with
> > raping a girl because her 12-year-old brother had been seeing a girl
> from their
> > family, has been greeted with outrage around the world.
> >
> > This, however, should not be seen as a new cause for the
international
> women's
> > liberation movement but as a blow to Pakistan itself and to its
legal
> system.
> > The conviction of one man who took part in the gang-rape was upheld
by
> > Pakistan's highest court, but the other five men walked free for,
> according to
> > the court, lack of evidence. The convicted man saw his death
sentence
> commuted
> > to life imprisonment.
> >
> > There are three important lessons for Pakistan arising from this
> sordid and
> > deplorable crime. The first is that such "punishments" are not
> uncommon in a
> > country where family honor is often paramount. It seems clear that
as
> a result
> > of the friendship between a young boy and a girl from another clan,
> the elders
> > of that clan decreed the family of the other should be humiliated.
It
> is
> > important to realize this was not just a rape crime. All too often
in
> similar
> > circumstances the victim, weighed down by the shame of what has
> happened to her,
> > has taken her own life. Therefore ultimately this was a crime of
> attempted
> > murder. No civilized society should be prepared to tolerate such
> behavior.
> >
> > The second lesson has been taught by the victim herself, Mukhtaran
> Mai, an
> > illiterate peasant girl, who instead of taking her own life in the
> face of her
> > enforced dishonor, bravely chose to take on her rapists and in doing
> so, the
> > entire Pakistani police and judicial system. She and her family are
> still being
> > threatened with murder.
> >
> > She still maintains the police never took her statement properly and
> failed to
> > investigate the crime in an efficient and timely manner. Hence, she
> says, it
> > could be claimed there was a lack of evidence against all but one of
> her
> > attackers, even though she was able to identify a number of them.
The
> courts in
> > which she pursued the men who had violated her, also displayed a
> distinct lack
> > of interest in her evidence, preferring to accept the police claims
> rather than
> > challenging law officers to demonstrate the effectiveness of their
> > investigation.
> >
> > This is not, however, the disaster that outsiders are claiming it to
> be. There
> > can be no doubt Pakistan has been shocked by the case. For the
> majority there is
> > a sense of shame that such violent and degrading behavior can ever
> take place
> > and frustration that both police and courts have been so slow and
> reluctant to
> > move against it. Remember this is a crime which took place fully
nine
> years ago.
> > The impact of the case on the authorities is likely to bring about a
> sea change
> > in official attitudes. Next time that such a heinous crime is
brought
> to the
> > attention of the police, it must be hoped that it will not just be
the
> rapists
> > who are charged, but also the elders who ordered the depraved crime.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been remove

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