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Ini terjadi di seluruh dunia di semua bangsa yang menjadi pengikutnya. Dan ini 
adalah ciri khas Islam yang menganjurkan kekerasan demi agama. 

UPDATE 4-Taliban urge Afghans to kill "invaders" amid violent protests

3:30 a.m. CST, February 23, 2012
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* Taliban call on Afghans to kill Westerners, attack bases

* Violent protests erupt across Afghanistan for third
straight day

* Outrage fuelled by NATO cultural insensitivities

(Adds death, injured, protest details)

By Mirwais Harooni

KABUL, Feb 23 (Reuters) - The Taliban urged Afghans on
Thursday to target foreign military bases and kill Westerners in
retaliation for the burning of copies of the Koran at a NATO air
base as a third day of protests erupted, killing at least one
person.

At least eight people were wounded in the demonstrations
that drew thousands of Afghans out into the cold to express
their disgust at the Koran burning, some chanting "Death to
America!" and smashing shop windows, witnesses said.

The Koran burnings at the vast Bagram air base north of
Kabul, which the United States has said were unintentional,
could make it even more difficult for U.S.-led NATO forces to
win the hearts and minds of Afghans and bring the Taliban to the





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[proletar] ALLAH, MANA TANGGUNG JAWABMU???

Bukannya membela umatmu melawan pasukan amerika malahan membuat ajaran yang 
menyebabkan orang mati sia-sia dan sengsara. Apa tidak cukup tu tumbal sajen 
kambing sapi waktu kurban??? 
Cobalah lakukan sesuatu kek, apa kek, mengubah ajaran kek, menurunkan nabi baru 
kek, supaya umatmu itu bermartabat, sejahtera, dan DAMAI tidak seperti 
sekarang, soal bakar buku cetakan mesin saja ditipu untuk taruhan nyawa melawan 
peluru panas 
Kamu bisa tidak melawan amerika?? 
Pensiun aja lu jadi Tuhan







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[proletar] ALLAH, DIMANA KAU???

Apa Allah tidak bisa membalas penistaan pembakaran bukunya dengan cara yang 
lebih elegan dan etis daripada MENGURBANKAN MANUSIA UNTUK MATI SIA-SIA  ??? 





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[proletar] Counting the Dead in Afghanistan

Robert Dreyfuss on February 23, 2012 - 10:17 AM ET
Amid the latest news from the war in Afghanistanbattles over Koran burnings, 
with members of the Afghan parliament calling for "jihad" against Americans and 
convoluted talks about talks between the United States, Afghanistan, Pakistan 
and the Talibanit's important to remember that the war has caused untold 
casualties among civilians and the innocent, including children. In the last 
few weeks, there have been important reminders: a brilliant New York Times 
series of the deaths of dozens of children in a frozen refugee camp near Kabul, 
a devastating air strike by NATO that slaughtered eight children, and a 
terrific article in the Washington Post on the somber business of identifying, 
hauling and burying Afghanistan's often anonymous civilian victims.

On February 3, the Times began what turned out to be an investigative series by 
Rod Nordland that depicted horrific conditions at a refugee camp for Afghans 
driven out of the areas where the war is most intense. The article began:

The following children froze to death in Kabul over the past three weeks 
after their families had fled war zones in Afghanistan for refugee camps here.

In all, it said, at least twenty-two children died in January and early 
February alone, and it asked:

After 10 years of a large international presence, comprising about 2,000 
aid groups, at least $3.5 billion of humanitarian aid and $58 billion of 
development assistance, how could children be dying of something as 
predictableand manageableas the cold?

 

The article sparked outrage, initial denials from then incompetent government 
of Afghanistan, and outpourings of private aid. A follow-up piece by Nordland 
two days later said, in part:

The refugees' biggest concerns are lack of food and firewood. Everything 
else is secondary. Few of the children have coats or warm clothes of any kind, 
other than the occasional ragged sweater. Most do not have socks, and shoes are 
often little more than plastic sandals.

Three days later, Nordland wrote a piece almost too difficult to read about a 
single family that had lost eight of its nine children, including a 3-month-old 
infant named Khan, to the cold and harsh conditions:

"After we had dinner he was crying all night of the cold," Mr. Mohammad 
said. The family had no wood and was husbanding a small portion of paper and 
plastic that his daughter had scavenged that day. He said the boy had seemed 
healthy and was breast-feeding normally, though the family's dinner consisted 
only of tea and bread. But he kept crying. "Finally we started a fire, but it 
wasn't enough," Mr. Mohammad said. By 1 a.m. the boy was stiff and lifeless, he 
said.

Even by the standards of destitution in these camps, Mr. Mohammad's story 
is a hard-luck one; Khan was the eighth of his nine children to die.

Even as Khan's family buried the eighth of its offspring, eight more children 
perished in a single air strike in Kapisa Province in eastern Afghanistan, more 
anonymous casualties of the ten-and-a-half-year war to nowhere. The incident 
followed the usual pattern: first revealed by President Karzai in an angry 
announcement, then a haphazard investigation by NATO, Afghan officials and 
others, with the Times noting:

Seven boys under 14 and an 18-year-old were killed in the attack, according 
to Abdul Mubin Safi, the administrative director of Kapisa Province. They were 
herding sheep less than half a mile from their homes when the bombing happened.

With NATO still refusing to admit responsibility, a report from an Afghan 
investigating committee concluded that the children were killed while grazing 
sheep and goats, and an eyewitness account in the Times said:

On Feb. 8 when the bombing happened, the children had gone as usual to the 
grazing area outside the village. They had just finished letting the animals 
graze and had made a small fire to keep warm when they were bombed, he said.

"Suddenly some airplanes came and dropped bombs on the children and killed 
my son, my two nephews and some other children from our village," said Mr. 
Zahid. "When we went there we saw the children in pieces, some missing legs, 
some missing arms, only the heads and face could be recognized, nothing else."

According to the UN, 3,021 civilians died in Afghanistan in 2011, 410 from NATO 
air strikes and other violence and 2,332 from IEDs, suicide bombs and other 
violence from the Taliban and insurgent groups, with an additional 279 dying 
from violence that could not be attributed to either side.

In the Post story, which pulls back the veil on a little-seen aspect of the 
war, a man named Abdul Hakim, a taxi driver and intermediary between officials 
and the Taliban, is shown going about the somber business of ensuring the 
hundreds of dead civilians, police officers and others are cared for properly, 
under Islamic law, and buried. A small excerpt from the must-r

[proletar] DIMANA TANGGUNG JAWAB ALLAH DALAM KASUS AFGHANISTAN ??

Apa Allah itu BUTA dan GOBLOG bahkan BIADAB atau SENGAJA sehingga membiarkan 
dan bahkan menginspirasikan melalui kitab2 suci dan ulama2nya di Afghanistan 
untuk saling berbunuhan dan mati sia2 dalam kemarahan karena pembakaran buku 
hasil cetakan mesin apapun alasannya ??? 
Kalau Allah itu mahakuasa seperti ditulis di kitab sucinya, kok susah amat 
melawan pasukan amerika??? Dimana tanggung jawabnya ALLAH dan MUHAMMAD ?? 
Muhammad sih gak usah diminta tanggun jawab wong dia sampai sekarang dikuburan. 
Kalau Allah bagaimana??? Dari dulu aku mempertanyakan oknum gaib bernama ALLAH 
ini, kok masih juga dia mengurbankan tumbal sajen manusia, tidak cukup kambing 
sapi ya??? 





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[proletar] Re: Tanggal 25 December: Hari Hanukah, Natal, dan Pahala !!!

2011-12-27 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Ketika Jesus lahir sudah ada kalender Julian yg dipakai pemerintahan Roma. 
Sudah banyak perpustakaan. Sudah ada kitab suci tertulis Torah dan sekolah2 
sinagog, Injil dan Torah itu ditulisnya diatas kertas papirus dan kulit domba. 
Sudah ada ratusan tahun sebelumnya.   

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "suryana"  wrote:
>
> Tumben essay nya menarik utk dibaca :o))..Selamat hari Pahala, semoga 
> Nyak Mus dapat mantu bukan semodel si uplik n si bleki.
> 
> sur.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "muskitawati" 
> 
> 
> > Tanggal 25 December: Hari Hanukah, Natal, dan Pahala !!!
> >
> > Pada waktu Yesus dilahirkan, belum ada tanggalan, belum ada kalendar, 
> > bahkan belum ada tulisan, belum ada kertas, dan belum ada pulpen maupun 
> > percetakan.
> >
> > Jadi bukan salah sama sekali merayakan kelahiran Yesus ditanggal 25 
> > December karena tidak ada akte kelahiran Yesus yang bisa menjadi bukti 
> > atau bisa menyalahkan tanggal tsb.
> >
> > Jadi hari Natal itu ditetapkan dari cerita adanya bintang Natal yang oleh 
> > mereka yang percaya dianggapnya sebagai bintang Halley atau bintang 
> > Supernova sebagai konjugasi Jupiter-Saturnus yang jatuh pada salah satu 
> > tanggal pada musim gugur antara September hingga December.  Ternyata 
> > tanggal 25 December sangat tepat untuk dipilih karena jatuh satu minggu 
> > sebelum tahun baru sehingga oleh para pedagangpun bisa dijadikan tonggak 
> > perhitungan hari liburan untuk tutup buku menghitung keuntungan dan 
> > kewajiban membayar pajak.
> >
> > Jadi tanggal 25 December memang merupakan hari penting dalam bisnis dan 
> > pengumpulan pajak negara, lalu apa salahnya kalo kita membonceng nama 
> > Yesus dan tanggal kelahirannya agar mereka umat yang percaya bisa patuh 
> > mensukseskan tujuan raja dalam pengumpulan dan perhitungan pajak2nya 
> >
> >> rifky pradana  wrote:
> >> Yesus juga diyakini tidak lahir
> >> pada 25 Desember. Tanggal tersebut
> >> hanyalah tanggal yang dipilih
> >> untuk merayakannya, bersamaan
> >> dengan festival Saturnalia di
> >> masa Romawi, saat masyarakat
> >> berbahagia dan saling berbagi
> >> hadiah.
> >
> > Jadi tujuannya adalah untuk membahagiakan semua manusia, orang tuanya 
> > maupun anak2nya, dengan mem-bagi2kan hadiah maka semuanya bahagia apapun 
> > hari yang mau anda namakan atau kapanpun tanggal yang mau anda jadikan 
> > tonggak hari bahagia itu.
> >
> > Meskipun sejarah menyatakan kertas telah ditemukan 300 tahun sebelum Yesus 
> > dilahirkan, bukanlah berarti kertas itu sudah digunakan.
> >
> > Demikianlah, kelahiran Yesus mulai di-cari2 orang setelah adanya kalendar. 
> > Sayangnya, kalendar yang yang ada itupun diciptakan orang2 Romawi yang 
> > bukan beragama Kristen, mereka tidak percaya Yesus dan pengikut Yesuspun 
> > tidak percaya kepada mereka.
> >
> > Demikianlah, ratusan tahun berlalu, dikalangan pengikut Yesus waktu 
> > berlalu tanpa kalendar, sebaliknya dikalangan bukan pengikut Yesus 
> > meskipun sudah ada kalendar juga berlalu tanpa peduli kapan lahirnya 
> > Yesus.
> >
> > Kepedulian mulai muncul sewaktu pedagang2 bunga orang Yahudi sedang 
> > menjajakan dagangannya dimusim gugur.  Untuk menarik para pembeli, para 
> > pedagang Yahudi membuat atau mengarang tanggalan dimana tanggal 25 
> > Desember diteriakkan sebagai lahirnya seorang Messiah yang waktu itu 
> > dianggap sebagai Yahweh, tapi untuk orang2 Kristen dianggapnya Yesus.
> >
> > Demikianlah, singkat cerita kemudian muncul hari Natal 25 December untuk 
> > umat yang percaya Yesus, dan muncul hari Hanukah jatuh tanggal 25 December 
> > untuk yang mempercayai Yahweh.
> >
> > Jadi tidak peduli apapun agama anda, tetap hari tanggal 25 December harus 
> > kita rayakan sebagai apapun yang anda mau percaya.  Kalo anda percaya 
> > Yesus, maka 25 December ini hari Natal, hari lahirnya sang Yesus.
> >
> > Kalo anda percaya Yahweh, maka hari 25 December ini adalah hari besar 
> > Hanukah.
> >
> > Kalo anda percaya nabi Muhammad, tidak juga bisa dialahkan kalo tanggal 25 
> > December ini sebagai hari kelahiran Nabi Muhammad, atau hari kematian nabi 
> > Muhammad...  jadi suka2 anda saja, kepercayaan apapun tidak bisa 
> > disalahkan,  anda tidak akan masuk keneraka hanya gara2 salah tanggal, 
> > apalagi tanggalan itu hanyalah bikinan manusia saja untuk mengisi hidup 
> > ini menjadi lebih menarik.
> >
> > Jadi kita semua boleh menetapkan bahwa tanggal 25 December sebagai tanggal 
> > kebahagiaan mem-bagi2 hadiah dipenutup tahun yang bebas anda namakan 
> > sendiri namanya:
> >
> > Orang Yahudi menamakannya sebagai "Hanukah Holiday".
> > Orang Nasrani menamakannya sebagai "Christmast Holiday".
> > Sedangkan orang Islam tidak bisa disalahkan kalo menamakannya sebagai 
> > "hari Pahala".
> >
> > Jadi sebagai umat Islam kita boleh memberi selamat kepada sesama muslimin 
> > sebagai "Hari Pahala", karena muslimin sudah punya hari Korban, jadi kalo 
> > ada hari korban kenapa tidak sekalian dilengkapi dengan "hari Pahala" ???
> >
> > Apapun

[proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Deadly clash hits Saudi province

2011-11-24 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Sering aku mencoba mencari alasan mengapa terjadi semua itu. Faktor sosial, 
ekonomi, genetik, lingkungan, hukum, budaya lokal, atau yg lain, tetapi setelah 
perbandingan macam2 budaya ujungnya selalu satu.   

Selalu saja kembali jawabnya jelas, bahwa faktor Islam itu yang menyebabkan 
manusia menjadi begini rupa. Kalian saja tahu bagaimana busuknya dan parahnya 
orang2 islam di milis ini. Sebuah ideologi hukum politik tradisi tatacara 
Non-Spiritual bernama ISLAM yang dengan efektif menstandarisir, menghambat 
spiritualitas, iptek, seni, dan nurani, mengedepankan teror neraka,tradisi dan 
doa diulang2 untuk  cuci otak, kekerasan dan paksaan sebagai cara utama, 
provokasi dan kebodohan. 

Kalau Indonesia mau maju, tinggalkan Islam, sebab semakin kalian memakai 
syariat, semakin MUNDUR ke abad primitif onta. 

Betul2 sebuah agama sempurna mahakarya buatan ANTICHRIST alias SATAN alias 
SATURN    
Dan jangan sebut ALLAH yang menciptakan sistem yang begini ini..
   

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda"  wrote:
>
> 
> Sudah empat belas abad syiah dan sunni itu asyik saling berbunuhan...
> 
> Islam itu, saya bilang dan saya ulang betul-betul adalah ikon kebiadaban yang 
> mengerikan...
> 
> http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/11/202465955365750.html]
> 
> Two people have been killed and six others wounded in an exchange of gunfire 
> between security forces and what the Saudi interior ministry called criminals 
> serving a foreign power in the country's oil-producing Eastern Province.
> 
> Wednesday's deaths brought the toll to four people dead, with nine others 
> wounded, since unrest erupted in in the region last week.
> 
> "These casualties have occurred due to the exchange of gunfire with unknown 
> criminal elements who have infiltrated among citizens, and are firing from 
> residential areas and narrow streets," the interior ministry said on Thursday.
> 
> The ministry earlier this week denied that Shias had been killed by bullets 
> fired by police in Qatif, an administrative unit of the province where a 
> large Shia Muslim community resides.
> 
> "It [the ministry] warns whoever deludes himself about violating order that 
> he will be deterred strongly, and that the security forces in the area are 
> fully authorised to deal with the situation and end these criminal actions."
> 
> - Interior Ministry, Saudi Arabia
> 
> Echoing language it used after an attack on a police station in the Eastern 
> Province last month, the ministry said: "The goal of those who provoke unrest 
> is to achieve dubious aims dictated to them by their foreign masters."
> 
> The previous references to foreign meddling have been widely interpreted as 
> Shia-dominated Iran, the Sunni-led kingdom's rival for influence in the Gulf.
> 
> Sunni Arab monarchies in the region saw Iran as the force behind unrest 
> earlier this year in majority Shia Bahrain.
> 
> Iran has denied repeated accusations that it is trying to destabilise Bahrain.
> 
> It has also dismissed an alleged plot that US authorities said last month had 
> implicated Iran's security agencies in a plan to kill the Saudi ambassador in 
> Washington.
>  
> Saudi Arabia has avoided mass protests that have led to the ousting of four 
> Arab leaders this year, reacting to the unrest in the region by promising to 
> spend some $130bn on housing and other social benefits for its citizens.
> 
> Discrimination alleged
> 
> Small-scale protests have taken place in the Eastern Province, where 
> authorities have responded by deploying armed riot police and establishing 
> checkpoints, activists said.
> 
> The province is connected by a 25km causeway to Bahrain, where Riyadh sent 
> troops earlier this year to help the fellow-Sunni government crush protests 
> led by Shia activists.
>  
> Saudi's Shia community complains of systematic discrimination, neglect in 
> public spending and incitement against them in religious sermons and 
> educational materials.
> 
> The kingdom, which is founded on an austere form of Sunni Islam and regards 
> itself as the guardian of that faith, disputes this.
> 
> Officials point out that King Abdullah has appointed Shia officials to 
> advisory government bodies in the kingdom.
> 
> A Saudi activist said earlier this week that three people had been killed by 
> gunfire in the region, including two he said were hit by police bullets 
> during a protest march.
> 
> Another activist said police had fired on protests in Qatif and the nearby 
> town of Awamiya.
> 
> The ministry at that time said two people had died in incidents in the 
> region, including a shooting at a police checkpoint near which tyres had been 
> set on fire. It said it would investigate the incidents.
> 
> In its statement on Thursday, the ministry said tyres had been burned and 
> roads blocked during the funeral that saw the most recent shootings, and said 
> it was ready "to deal with the situation".
> 
> "It [the ministry] warns whoever delud

[proletar] Pakistan: "Jesus Christ" reportedly removed from list of banned words for text m

2011-11-24 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Mengapa bisa?? Sebab Islam adalah agama alMasih Addajal, ANTICHRIST
Ini baru satu. Bukti seabrek2  

Jihad Watch
Pakistan: "Jesus Christ" reportedly removed from list of banned words for text 
messages
Even in the present climate in Pakistan, this was too absurd, and too obvious a 
swipe at the Christian minority to stand. An update on this story. "Islamabad, 
victory for Paul Bhatti and APMA: Jesus Christ is no longer banned in texting," 
from AsiaNews, November 24:

Islamabad (AsiaNews) - The commitment of the Special Advisor for religious 
minorities Paul Bhatti coupled with the demonstrations of parliamentarians and 
activists of the All Pakistan Minority Alliance (APMA) has been successful: the 
government of Pakistan has decided to withdraw the name of Jesus Christ from 
the list of censored words - a "black list" of 1600 words of an obscene, 
pornographic or religious reference  that cannot be used in phone text 
messages. Among gestures judges "extreme", but always peaceful and in 
compliance with the law, was that of an elected official from the province of 
Sindh Ampa: Saleem Khokhar, who sat on the floor during the Assembly meeting, 
the empty chair, he said, would be occupied again only after deletion of 
Christ's name from the list of banned words. Paul Bhatti also denies reports 
that circulated yesterday on some news sites, that the cancellation was linked 
to the intervention of Akram Gill, Minister of State for Harmony (a sort of 
department secretary).
Interviewed by AsiaNews, Paul Bhatti, brother of Shahbaz Bhatti, the Catholic 
minister for religious minorities assassinated on 2 March, confirms the 
commitment for the "rehabilitation" of the name "Jesus Christ", banned last 
week along with a thousand words considered "pornographic in nature" or of a 
confessional nature. In the letter sent Nov. 14 to telephone operators, Garan 
ordered the installation of communications software to block forbidden words - 
in Urdu and English - including "naked, gay and ... Jesus Christ."
The special adviser for religious minorities to the prime minister, with the 
status of Federal Minister for National Harmony, has repeatedly raised the 
question in Pakistani media, "with the full support" of all parliamentarians 
and APMA activists who have launched a protest campaign. In a later Paul Bhatti 
spoke directly to Prime Minister Gilani and President of the antitrust for 
Telecommunications Mohammed Yaseen. "We had just finished the talks  he said  
when the news of the cancellation of Jesus Christ from the list arrived."
Paul Bhatti does not hide the satisfaction with the work done by his ministry 
and APMA, which was co-founded and presided over by Shahbaz Bhatti for a long 
time and he thanked "the Pakistani government for the good news", while 
confirming "the mutual commitment to minorities and the executive's "program to 
promote interfaith dialogue and peaceful coexistence of the different souls 
that make up the country.
In recent days the story had captured the attention of international media. The 
Pakistani government finally ended the controversy, restoring legitimacy to the 
rights of Christians. However, there are those - in Pakistan - who have been 
wrongly credited with having obtained the cancellation of the name "Jesus" from 
the list. Some Catholic websites have emphasized the role of Akram Gill, 
under-secretary of the Ministry for Harmony, for having "raised the issue in 
the Cabinet of Ministers". In fact, says Paul Bhatti, Akram Gill (a Catholic) 
has never participated in any meeting of the executive and has never given 
"personal interviews". Our collaborative work with the government, says Bhatti, 
"was crucial", the work of APMA and the Parliamentary Assembly of Sindh, with 
its "sensational" protest combined with the "sensitivity" shown by the 
executive and the Pakistani leadership.
"There are too many inaccuracies and false information in Pakistan - The 
Special Adviser to the Prime Minister concluded - especially when it comes to 
Christians, minorities and sectarian issues. And it is right and proper to 
promote correct information. "(DS)
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[proletar] KABAR BAIK Re: CATATAN beberapa hari ini dari JihadWatch dan ALIEN

2011-11-20 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Sekali lagi, inilah kabar baik dari hasil aku memerhatikan segala sesuatu 
termasuk alien, spiritual, ideologi, dan agama itu:  

Segala macam kekacauan, aturan aneh2, omongan tidak masuk akal, kebiadaban, 
kebingungan terjadi dimana2 dalam sistem Islam itu, semua adalah karena Islam 
sedang DIKOREKSI. 

Pergantian jaman sedang mendekat. Support dari alien dimensi kelima (roh) sudah 
dihabisi. Lucifer sudah mati dimusnahkan. Setan sudah mati. Support dimensi 
keempat dan matrix yg menguasai manusia sudah mulai terkoyak. Reptilian bases 
di banyak tempat dihancurkan dan alien2 ini diusir kembali ke planet asal 
mereka.
Bulan, markas alien reptilian, Death Starnya Darth Vader (Bapak Kegelapan) 
sudah direbut. Ideologi dan agama dibongkar habis. Para dzat archon yang selama 
ini memasok logistik dengan menyedot energi negatif dari manusia sudah mulai 
hancur atau kekurangan energi karena tidak ada perang dan terorisme lagi.

Planet ini sedang dalam masa pengawasan ketat. Perang dan rencana2 jahat atas 
planet ini dibatalkan. Intervensi alien dari pemerintahan alam semesta yang 
baik makin sering. Mereka mempersiapkan era baru dimana Bumi kembali ke 
pangkuan pemerintahan alam semesta dan persaudaraan antar planet di alam 
semesta yang amat luas dimana al-Masih adalah pemimpinnya.

Tidak akan terjadi lagi seorang utusan kebenaran dari alam semesta akan 
dianiaya di planet ini, seperti terjadi pada Isa.

Banyak sumber2 spiritual yg kumonitor jelas mengatakan itu semua. Sumber2 alien 
dan armada komando alien juga paralel. Sekarang adalah masa koreksi. Dalam masa 
20-30 tahun lagi bumi akan dibersihkan dari segala pengaruh alien2 jahat. Kita 
akan melihat dunia yang baru. Bahkan tidak ada lagi agama2 seperti yang kita 
kenal sekarang. Akan muncul penyatuan semua agama, bukan menuju agama diktator 
cita2nya iblis dalam "New World Order", tetapi sebuah agama spiritual yang
sangat advanced dan membawa manusia ke hidup setelah mati di akhirat, bukan 
mengeram di kuburan hilang lenyap semua bekas.

Mengapa?? sumber2 itu mengatakan bahwa mereka mempersiapkan kedatangan era 
baru, ascension, kenaikan atau transisi menuju dimensi keempat yang lebih 
tinggi dari dimensi tiga sekarang. Bumi akan menjadi sebuah planet penting di 
alam semesta ini.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Muslim with U.S. passport blows himself up in Pakistan
> by Robert
> Why not? No screening -- absolutely none -- is done of Muslim who immigrate 
> to the U.S. to try to determine whether or not they hold jihadist sentiments. 
> As imperfect as such screening would inevitably be, the fact that there is 
> none is an indication of how willfully blind official...
> 2:48 AM (11 hours ago)
> 
> Egypt: Tens of thousands throng to Tahrir Square as Muslim Brotherhood and 
> other Islamic supremacist groups rally
> by Robert
> This is the "Arab Spring" uprising that Barack Obama so enthusiastically 
> endorsed. There will be no flowering of freedom and democracy; there will be 
> an Islamic state. I tried to tell you. More on this story. "Muslim 
> Brotherhood, Islamist groups rally in Egypt's Tahrir Square," by Kristen 
> Chick for The...
> 2:48 AM (11 hours ago)
> 
> The latest 'threat' to Malaysian Muslims: solar-powered talking bibles
> by The Anti-Jihadist
> Malaysian politician Hassan Ali, AKA Hasan Ali, the same Islamic supremacist 
> who has been a key supporter of the recent church 'inspection' and Islamic 
> supremacist fest known as 'Himpun'', has exposed another 'trick' of the 
> infidels: solar powered talking bibles. Will the Christian treachery against 
> Muslims never end? From "Hasan...
> 2:48 AM (11 hours ago)
> 
> Arab League official: "70% of Arab youth want to migrate"
> by The Anti-Jihadist
> Sometimes a single statistic can well and truly capture the epic scale of 
> Islam's failure. The startling statistic? Seven out of ten Arab youths, 
> according to an Arab League official, want to migrate and escape the virtual 
> disaster zone that is otherwise known as the Arab world, despite trillions 
> in...
> 2:48 AM (11 hours ago)
> 
> Muslim Brotherhood goes public with first conference in Libya
> by Robert
> This is what Barack Obama sent American forces to establish in Libya. I tried 
> to tell you. "Muslim Brotherhood goes public with first conference in Libya," 
> from Reuters, November 18: The Muslim Brotherhood has held its first public 
> conference on Libyan soil after being banned for decades, and used the...
> 1:40 AM (12 hours ago)
> 
> Saif al-Islam Gaddafi captured
> by Marisol
> "Muammar Gaddafi's beating, abuse and ultimate death in the custody of former 
> rebel fighters was an embarrassment to the previous transi

[proletar] CATATAN beberapa hari ini dari JihadWatch dan ALIEN

2011-11-20 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Muslim with U.S. passport blows himself up in Pakistan
by Robert
Why not? No screening -- absolutely none -- is done of Muslim who immigrate to 
the U.S. to try to determine whether or not they hold jihadist sentiments. As 
imperfect as such screening would inevitably be, the fact that there is none is 
an indication of how willfully blind official...
2:48 AM (11 hours ago)

Egypt: Tens of thousands throng to Tahrir Square as Muslim Brotherhood and 
other Islamic supremacist groups rally
by Robert
This is the "Arab Spring" uprising that Barack Obama so enthusiastically 
endorsed. There will be no flowering of freedom and democracy; there will be an 
Islamic state. I tried to tell you. More on this story. "Muslim Brotherhood, 
Islamist groups rally in Egypt's Tahrir Square," by Kristen Chick for The...
2:48 AM (11 hours ago)

The latest 'threat' to Malaysian Muslims: solar-powered talking bibles
by The Anti-Jihadist
Malaysian politician Hassan Ali, AKA Hasan Ali, the same Islamic supremacist 
who has been a key supporter of the recent church 'inspection' and Islamic 
supremacist fest known as 'Himpun'', has exposed another 'trick' of the 
infidels: solar powered talking bibles. Will the Christian treachery against 
Muslims never end? From "Hasan...
2:48 AM (11 hours ago)

Arab League official: "70% of Arab youth want to migrate"
by The Anti-Jihadist
Sometimes a single statistic can well and truly capture the epic scale of 
Islam's failure. The startling statistic? Seven out of ten Arab youths, 
according to an Arab League official, want to migrate and escape the virtual 
disaster zone that is otherwise known as the Arab world, despite trillions in...
2:48 AM (11 hours ago)

Muslim Brotherhood goes public with first conference in Libya
by Robert
This is what Barack Obama sent American forces to establish in Libya. I tried 
to tell you. "Muslim Brotherhood goes public with first conference in Libya," 
from Reuters, November 18: The Muslim Brotherhood has held its first public 
conference on Libyan soil after being banned for decades, and used the...
1:40 AM (12 hours ago)

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi captured
by Marisol
"Muammar Gaddafi's beating, abuse and ultimate death in the custody of former 
rebel fighters was an embarrassment to the previous transitional government. 
Officials in Tripoli said they were determined to handle his son's case with 
more order." "Gaddafi's son captured, scared and without fight," by 
Marie-Louise Gumuchian for Reuters, November...
1:09 AM (13 hours ago)

New York: ConEd asks judge to let it evict Ground Zero mosque developer over 
$1.7 million owed in back rent
by Marisol
All of the self-righteous bullying over the mosque, and on the other hand, all 
of the fawning in much of the press, has come to this. An update on this story. 
"Con Ed bids to zap Ground Zero mosque," by Dareh Gregorian and Melissa Klein 
for the New York Post,...
12:39 AM (13 hours ago)

Iran reportedly training Gaza jihadists to operate anti-tank weapons
by Marisol
Iran is the Acme Company arming jihadist coyotes bent on devouring the Israeli 
roadrunner. This was thought to be a more fruitful path than Anvil and Umbrella 
Jihad. In all seriousness, though, the sophistication of weapons present in the 
Gaza Strip continues to grow at an alarming rate, as described...
12:11 AM (14 hours ago)

U.K.: "Four men" charged with "fundraising for the purposes of terrorism"
by Marisol
No particular ideological affiliation is mentioned here. They're just four 
young men who must have gotten their hands on a sinister, cast-off version of 
Things to Do on a Rainy Day. Tiny Minority of Extremists, plus four: an update 
on this story. "UK police charge four with terrorism offenses," from...
Nov 19, 2011 (22 hours ago)

Tunisia: Islamic party figure who announced aspirations to caliphate selected 
as prime minister
by Marisol
"Last Sunday, [Hamadi] Jebali, the party's number two official, alarmed some by 
bringing up 'the caliphate'." The Ennahda party did not sweep him under the rug 
in embarrassment for reportedly going on about his personal aspirations to be a 
modern-day successor to the first few rulers of the entire...
Nov 19, 2011 (yesterday)

New Robert Spencer book coming next Spring: Did Muhammad Exist?
by Robert
UPDATE: A few people have asked me how I could write this book after writing 
The Truth About Muhammad. It's simple: The Truth About Muhammad is a biography 
of Muhammad based on the earliest Muslim sources. That is important because 
whatever the historical value of that material, Muslims believe...
Nov 19, 2011 (yesterday)

Egyptian priest: Muslim Brotherhood "showing their truer, most intransigent 
face, which they have cloaked so far under a veneer of moderate Islamic 
political activism"
by Marisol
We tried to tell you. "Islamist parties take to the street against the 
military, threaten violence," from Asia News, November 18: Cairo (AsiaNews)  
Thousands of supporters of Islamist parties rallied toda

[proletar] Re: KURBAN dan MUTILASI HEWAN

2011-11-18 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

satu lagi yg mungkin berkaitan. Yahweh emang suka tumbal sajen nyawa dan darah, 
jadi ketika Jesus datang, dibantailah ia. Lalu belakangan oleh Paulus dibuatkan 
ajaran bahwa katanya Jesus mati menebus dosa jadi tumbal sajen untuk Yahweh. 
Malah jadi sentral dogma kristen. Itu bukti konfirmasi pasti memang Yahweh itu 
alien penggemar tumbal sajen golongan Cali, Moloch dan Seth. 
 
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> FBI thn 70-an pernah bingung dgn mutilasi sapi dalam jumlah besar. Hewannya 
> kedapetan mati begitu saja. Darahnya disedot kering dan ada beberapa organ 
> diambil dgn ketepatan teknis operasi, jadi oleh sesuatu yang sangat cerdas 
> dan teknologi tinggi.  
> http://vault.fbi.gov/Animal%20Mutilation/Animal%20Mutilation%20Part%202%20of%205/view
> 
> Apa ini agen rahasia pemerintah?? Apa susahnya darah sapi?? Kalau memang 
> pemerintah, kenapa tidak menyuruh rumah pembantaian hewan untuk mengumpulkan 
> darah sapi. Gampang. 
> 
> Ini semua mungkin ada hubungan dengan:
> - vampir yang makan darah
> - kenapa dukun dan Nyi Roro Kidul dan sejenisnya minta tumbal sajen dan 
> sering berupa darah dan nyawa 
> - tatacara Idul Adha dan Paskah Yahudi 
> - pengurbanan hewan di India dan di agama2 kuno dan di beberapa aliran 
> penyembah setan, ciri khas penyembah Shiva dan Cali, nama lain dari Seth dan 
> Molokh, menurut satanist Anton LaVey dan Helena Blavatsky. Simbol mereka 
> adalah bulan atau kegelapan, dan sapi. 
> - alien dan penculikan oleh alien spt dialami oleh pendiri sekte Raelian. 
> - pernyataan Yahweh dalam Bible bahwa darah itu nyawa dan kegemaran Yahweh 
> pada darah hewan
> - Kesaksian seorang dukun Afrika bernama Mukendi yg menyembah Lucifer, tiap 
> tahun ia harus menghadap Lucifer sambil membawa darah nyawa manusia yang 
> kemudian diminum oleh Lucifer. Tiap tahun ia wajib membunuh sekian nyawa 
> untuk setoran makan pada sang bos.  
> - ttg alien golongan jahat Reptilian bahwa mereka makan dari mencuri energi 
> negatif dan nyawa makhluk hidup, sehingga mereka minta kurban dan membuat 
> perang.  
> 
> Rasanya semua ada benang merahnya ...
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[proletar] KURBAN dan MUTILASI HEWAN

2011-11-18 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

FBI thn 70-an pernah bingung dgn mutilasi sapi dalam jumlah besar. Hewannya 
kedapetan mati begitu saja. Darahnya disedot kering dan ada beberapa organ 
diambil dgn ketepatan teknis operasi, jadi oleh sesuatu yang sangat cerdas dan 
teknologi tinggi.  
http://vault.fbi.gov/Animal%20Mutilation/Animal%20Mutilation%20Part%202%20of%205/view

Apa ini agen rahasia pemerintah?? Apa susahnya darah sapi?? Kalau memang 
pemerintah, kenapa tidak menyuruh rumah pembantaian hewan untuk mengumpulkan 
darah sapi. Gampang. 

Ini semua mungkin ada hubungan dengan:
- vampir yang makan darah
- kenapa dukun dan Nyi Roro Kidul dan sejenisnya minta tumbal sajen dan sering 
berupa darah dan nyawa 
- tatacara Idul Adha dan Paskah Yahudi 
- pengurbanan hewan di India dan di agama2 kuno dan di beberapa aliran 
penyembah setan, ciri khas penyembah Shiva dan Cali, nama lain dari Seth dan 
Molokh, menurut satanist Anton LaVey dan Helena Blavatsky. Simbol mereka adalah 
bulan atau kegelapan, dan sapi. 
- alien dan penculikan oleh alien spt dialami oleh pendiri sekte Raelian. 
- pernyataan Yahweh dalam Bible bahwa darah itu nyawa dan kegemaran Yahweh pada 
darah hewan
- Kesaksian seorang dukun Afrika bernama Mukendi yg menyembah Lucifer, tiap 
tahun ia harus menghadap Lucifer sambil membawa darah nyawa manusia yang 
kemudian diminum oleh Lucifer. Tiap tahun ia wajib membunuh sekian nyawa untuk 
setoran makan pada sang bos.  
- ttg alien golongan jahat Reptilian bahwa mereka makan dari mencuri energi 
negatif dan nyawa makhluk hidup, sehingga mereka minta kurban dan membuat 
perang.  

Rasanya semua ada benang merahnya ... 





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[proletar] MUHAMMAD and The Demons

2011-11-17 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Cerita aneh macam gini jadi mudah dimengerti jika memakai perspektif alien. 
Muhammad ini orang yang dirasuki oleh alien, bertemu alien, dan  dikuasai 
alien, untuk perang, membunuh, mengurbankan hewan, membuat sistem tertutup, 
menduduki bumi dengan kekerasan dst dst  


MUHAMMAD AND THE DEMONS
by Silas

http://answering-islam.org/Silas/demons.htm
  
PART 1  MUHAMMAD'S EXPERIENCES WITH SPIRITS
 
 
[NOTE:  My comments in the source material are in [  ] type brackets.  Source 
author's / translator's quotes are in (  ) type brackets.]
 
 
1) An experience Muhammad had as a child.
 
When Muhammad was a child he was nursed by a Bedouin woman.  During 
this time he had an experience with "two men in white raiment".  Here is W. M. 
Watt's translation of Ibn Ishaq's biography of Muhammad, page 36:
 
"...two men in white clothes came to me with a golden basin full of 
snow.  They took me and split open my body, then they took my heart and split 
it open and took out from it a black clot which they flung away.  Then they 
washed my heart and my body with that snow until they made them pure."  [1]
 
 
This event deeply disturbed the Bedouins and they returned Muhammad 
to his mother.  Here is the story told by Muhammad's wet-nurse, related in 
Guillaume's translation of Ibn Ishaq, page 72:
 
"His [Muhammad's friend's] father said to me, "I am afraid that 
this child has had a stroke, so take him back to his family before the result 
appears. .   She [Muhammad's mother] asked me what happened and gave me no 
peace until I told her.  When she asked if I feared a demon had possessed him, 
I replied that I did."  [2]
 
 
Note that Muhammad's wet-nurse believed he had been possessed by a 
demon.  One would expect some degree of attachment between the two, since she 
nursed him, so it is extraordinary that she would return him in those 
circumstances:  something very troubling actually occurred.
 
 
2) Muhammad's experience in the cave - his call to "prophethood".
 
Quoting from the Hadith of Bukhari, 9.111:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form 
of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it 
came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira 
where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He 
used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to 
(his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, 
till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. 
The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do 
not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) 
and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me 
and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," 
whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear 
it anymore.  He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I 
replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he 
caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, 
"Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created 
man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous...up to. ..that which 
he knew not." (96.15)
 
Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching 
with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They 
covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong 
with me?" Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that 
something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, 
for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good relations with 
your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your 
guest generously and assist the deserving, calamity-afflicted ones."
 
... But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused 
for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended 
several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time 
he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would 
appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in 
truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would 
return home.  And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to 
become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a 
mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said 
before. (Ibn 'Abbas said regarding the meaning of: 'He it is that Cleaves the 
daybreak (from the darkness)' (6.96) that Al-Asbah means the light of the sun 
during the day and the l

[proletar] WETIKO PSYCHOSIS - penyakit mental yang amat bahaya

2011-11-17 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Wetiko, virus batin yang adalah kanibal dan predator, yang menganggap manusia 
adalah ancaman sekaligus kurban. Mereka anti seni (memperkaya dan memperindah 
lingkungan) tetapi sebaliknya mengisap habis resources bumi. Jelas sebabnya 
maka mereka membatasi dan melarang seni, memberangus perempuan yang adalah 
pencinta seni dan keindahan tubuh. Mereka ganas, suka perang karena dari 
kurbannya mereka makan dan hidup. Mereka sangat menular. Mereka pintar 
mempertahankan diri dengan penyamaran, sehingga sulit terdeteksi, dalam 
lapisan2 organisasi, sistem, hukum, budaya agama dan tradisi manusia. 

Dan ini terjadinya pada penganut ideologi serta agama2 tradisional yg ada  
ada yg terinfesi parah ada yang ringan. Sudah waktunya kita bersihkan!!  

Aku kasih juga terjemahan Google translatenya di bawah. 

Wetiko Psychosis
Topic - January 21, 2011 - 8:28am

It's a long article, so below, I've summarized some important parts for you.

>From http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/?p=534

Forbes writes, "The overriding characteristic of the wetiko is that he consumes 
other human beings, that is, he is a predator and a cannibal. This is the 
central essence of the disease."[ix] Predators, `full-blown' wetikos are not in 
touch with their own humanity, and therefore can't see the humanity in others. 
Instead, they relate to others either as potential prey or as a threat to their 
dominance. As if a different breed who is more animal-like predator than 
ordinary human being, someone fully taken over by the wetiko psychosis consumes 
others lives, physically, emotionally, psychically and meta-physically, beyond 
just the material body and physical possessions to the level of meaning itself. 
Wetikos are the `anti-artists' of our culture, embodying the opposite of what 
creative artists do. Unlike an artist (please see my article "The Artist as 
Healer of the World"), who creates life-enhancing meaning and enriches the 
world without robbing others, a wetiko takes and consumes without giving 
anything back, continually draining and impoverishing the planet of resources.

Many of us can't fathom the level of evil to which full-blown wetikos have 
fallen prey, and of which they are capable. Our lack of imagination of the evil 
existing in potential in humanity is a direct reflection of a lack of intimacy 
with our own potential evil, which enables the malevolence of wetiko to have 
nearly free rein in our world (please see my article "Shedding Light on Evil").

Once the parasite becomes sufficiently entrenched within the psyche, the prime 
directive coordinating a person's behavior comes from the disease, as it is now 
the one calling the shots. Just as someone infected with the rabies virus will 
resist drinking water, which would flush out the infection, someone taken over 
by the wetiko parasite will have nothing to do with anything that will help 
them get rid of the disease. Wetikos are phobic towards the light of truth, 
which they avoid like the plague. In advanced stages, this process takes over 
the person so completely that we could rightfully say the person is no longer 
there; they are just an empty shell carrying the disease. In a sense there is 
just the disease, operating through what appears to be a human being. The 
person becomes fully identified with their mask, their persona, but it is as if 
there is no one behind the mask.

Wetiko psychosis is highly contagious, spreading through the channel of our 
shared unconsciousness. Its vectors of infection and propagation do not travel 
like a physical pathogen. This fluidly moving, nomadically wandering bug 
reciprocally reinforces, feeds off of and into each of our unconscious 
blind-spots.  Collaboratively supporting their mutual psychosis, groups of 
people drawn together by the unconscious can potentially become a 
socio-political force with which to be reckoned. When a group of people are in 
agreement about anything, whether it is true or not, their alignment with each 
other exerts a contagious, magnetic field-of-force which can sway and attract 
the unaware into itself.

People taken over by the wetiko virus usually don't suspect a thing about how 
they have been `conned.' Once under the wetiko spell, they lose the capacity to 
recognize the wetiko pathology in others.

Forbes writes, "one of the major traits characterizing the truly evil and 
extreme form of wetikoism is arrogance."[xxvii] In being `full-blown,' wetikos 
are arrogantly puffed up with their own self-importance, i.e., `inflated.' 
Instruments for evil, wetikos are arrogantly, ignorantly and self-righteously 
convinced they are in possession of the truth and working for the highest good. 
It is as if they are unable to know that what they are doing is evil, unable to 
register their actions as anything other than good.

Speaking about the rapidly spreading wetiko contagion, Forbes writes, "It is 
spread by the wetikos themselves as they recruit or corrupt others. It is 
spread t

[proletar] Re: ARCHON - Rahasia Alien yg suka KURBAN DARAH dan NYAWA

2011-11-16 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Tidak heran mengapa Allah tidak mau menyebut dirinya sebagai RUH, melainkan 
DZAT, sebab ia alien golongan Archon itu yg berwujud semi-materi seperti amoeba 
dan bisa mengubah2 wujud. 

"Although these parasites are not human, they feed off the negative
energy/emotions of humans. It is unclear when these cosmic, amoeba-like 
creatures first came to earth, but we know they were discovered by shamans in 
altered states of consciousness long ago and have recently been photographed.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Alien golongan Archon, membuat perang dan ritual kurban hewan karena mereka 
> makan energi hidup dari makhluk hidup yang dibunuh itu. Itulah yg persis 
> dilakukan Yahweh dan Allah. Allah melestarikannya dalam Idul Adha. Itulah yg 
> disebut Isa bahwa IBLIS ITU PENCURI, PEMBUNUH, dan PENDUSTA. 
> Tidak heran, Isa pernah marah sekali dan mengobrak abrik acara kurban hewan 
> (Paskah). Sekali itu saja Isa marah. Ia benci sekali IDUL ADHA dan pemotongan 
> hewan kurban, sebab itu memberi makan alien2 dari golongan Archon, yang 
> terdiri dari dua jenis: Reptilian dan Greys (sebangsa tuyul yang sering kita 
> lihat gambarnya).  
>  
> kutipan: 
> Mr. Weidner concludes, "Humans are imitated on television but the imitation 
> is altered and is nearly always obscene and profane because the Archons not 
> only do not understand the sacred but they hate it. They are jealous of the 
> natural world and of human beings with the natural world. Also of sexual 
> relationships: loving couples make them angry and they love violence and are 
> sexually titillated by anger and war and death. They create war to consume 
> energy from the dying."
> 
> http://www.exopolitics.com/
> 
> Archons - Exorcising hidden controllers with Robert Stanley and Laura 
> Eisenhower
> 
>  
> 
> 5-9e63d7b9b26f
> NASA - Image of archon
> 
> By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd
> 
> Archons are hidden negative controllers of humankind, inorganic 
> interdimensional entities that must now be exposed and exorcised from the 
> individual human mind, from our human species, and from the planet as a whole 
> as part of our collective evolution to a new state of consciousness and being.
> 
> This is the vital message that author Robert M. Stanley and Earth 
> advocate/global alchemist Laura Magdalene Eisenhower bring us in a Nov. 14, 
> 2011 ExopoliticsTV interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre.
> 
> Watch ExopoliticsTV interview on archons with Robert Stanley and Laura 
> Magdalene Eisenhower
> 
> WATCH INTERVIEW
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frIhzLHHryA
> Advertisement
> 
> What are archons?
> 
> In their ExopoliticsTV interviews Laura Eisenhower and Robert Stanley discuss 
> Ancient Gnostic texts from Egypt, "called the Nag Hammadi, describing two 
> types of demonic alien beings that invaded earth long ago which they call the 
> Archons. The first type of Archon looks like a reptile. The other type looks 
> like a human embryo... which has the same shape and appearance as the "sky 
> fish" photos."
> 
> Robert Stanley, author of Covert Encounters over Washington, DC, has release 
> a public statement about archons stating,  "It is time to expose the covert 
> controllers of mankind. I assure you this is not speculation, a hoax, or the 
> figment of peoples' imagination. These parasitic creatures are real and they 
> need to be dealt with immediately so mankind can evolve to the next level of 
> existence.
> 
> "Although these parasites are not human, they feed off the negative 
> energy/emotions of humans. It is unclear when these cosmic, amoeba-like 
> creatures first came to earth, but we know they were discovered by shamans in 
> altered states of consciousness long ago and have recently been photographed. 
> The reason everyone is not seeing them on a daily basis is because the 
> creature's energy signature is beyond our normal, narrow range of vision 
> within the electromagnetic spectrum. What scientist call "visible light."
> 
> The scientific approach to archons
> 
> Mr. Stanley maintains that humanity must now take a scientific approach to 
> identifying archons and exterminating them in the human dimensional ecology.  
> Mr. Stanley has released a series of photographs of archons that can be seen 
> in the Slide show in this article.
> 
> Archons are intrapsychic mind-parasites
> 
> In discussing archness, author John Lash writes, "Although archons do exist 
> physically, the real danger they pose to humanity is not invasion of the 
> planet but invasion of the mind.
> 
> "The archons are intrapsychic mind-parasites who access human consciousn

[proletar] ARCHON - Rahasia Alien yg suka KURBAN DARAH dan NYAWA

2011-11-16 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Alien golongan Archon, membuat perang dan ritual kurban hewan karena mereka 
makan energi hidup dari makhluk hidup yang dibunuh itu. Itulah yg persis 
dilakukan Yahweh dan Allah. Allah melestarikannya dalam Idul Adha. Itulah yg 
disebut Isa bahwa IBLIS ITU PENCURI, PEMBUNUH, dan PENDUSTA. 
Tidak heran, Isa pernah marah sekali dan mengobrak abrik acara kurban hewan 
(Paskah). Sekali itu saja Isa marah. Ia benci sekali IDUL ADHA dan pemotongan 
hewan kurban, sebab itu memberi makan alien2 dari golongan Archon, yang terdiri 
dari dua jenis: Reptilian dan Greys (sebangsa tuyul yang sering kita lihat 
gambarnya).  
 
kutipan: 
Mr. Weidner concludes, "Humans are imitated on television but the imitation is 
altered and is nearly always obscene and profane because the Archons not only 
do not understand the sacred but they hate it. They are jealous of the natural 
world and of human beings with the natural world. Also of sexual relationships: 
loving couples make them angry and they love violence and are sexually 
titillated by anger and war and death. They create war to consume energy from 
the dying."

http://www.exopolitics.com/

Archons - Exorcising hidden controllers with Robert Stanley and Laura Eisenhower

 

5-9e63d7b9b26f
NASA - Image of archon

By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

Archons are hidden negative controllers of humankind, inorganic 
interdimensional entities that must now be exposed and exorcised from the 
individual human mind, from our human species, and from the planet as a whole 
as part of our collective evolution to a new state of consciousness and being.

This is the vital message that author Robert M. Stanley and Earth 
advocate/global alchemist Laura Magdalene Eisenhower bring us in a Nov. 14, 
2011 ExopoliticsTV interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre.

Watch ExopoliticsTV interview on archons with Robert Stanley and Laura 
Magdalene Eisenhower

WATCH INTERVIEW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frIhzLHHryA
Advertisement

What are archons?

In their ExopoliticsTV interviews Laura Eisenhower and Robert Stanley discuss 
Ancient Gnostic texts from Egypt, "called the Nag Hammadi, describing two types 
of demonic alien beings that invaded earth long ago which they call the 
Archons. The first type of Archon looks like a reptile. The other type looks 
like a human embryo... which has the same shape and appearance as the "sky 
fish" photos."

Robert Stanley, author of Covert Encounters over Washington, DC, has release a 
public statement about archons stating,  "It is time to expose the covert 
controllers of mankind. I assure you this is not speculation, a hoax, or the 
figment of peoples' imagination. These parasitic creatures are real and they 
need to be dealt with immediately so mankind can evolve to the next level of 
existence.

"Although these parasites are not human, they feed off the negative 
energy/emotions of humans. It is unclear when these cosmic, amoeba-like 
creatures first came to earth, but we know they were discovered by shamans in 
altered states of consciousness long ago and have recently been photographed. 
The reason everyone is not seeing them on a daily basis is because the 
creature's energy signature is beyond our normal, narrow range of vision within 
the electromagnetic spectrum. What scientist call "visible light."

The scientific approach to archons

Mr. Stanley maintains that humanity must now take a scientific approach to 
identifying archons and exterminating them in the human dimensional ecology.  
Mr. Stanley has released a series of photographs of archons that can be seen in 
the Slide show in this article.

Archons are intrapsychic mind-parasites

In discussing archness, author John Lash writes, "Although archons do exist 
physically, the real danger they pose to humanity is not invasion of the planet 
but invasion of the mind.

"The archons are intrapsychic mind-parasites who access human consciousness 
through telepathy and simulation.  They infect our imagination and use the 
power of make-believe for deception and confusion.  Their pleasure is in deceit 
for its own sake, without a particular aim or purpose. They are robotic in 
nature, incapable of independent thought or choice, and have no particular 
agenda, except to live vicariously through human beings. They are bizarrely 
able to pretend an effect on humans, which they do not really have.

"For instance, they cannot access human genetics, but they can pretend to do 
so, in such a way that humans fall for the pretended act, as if staged events 
were taken for real.  In this respect, archons are the ultimate hoaxers. This 
is the essence of "archontic intrusion," as I call it.  The trick is, if 
humanity falls under the illusion of superhuman power, it becomes as good as 
real, a self-fulfilling delusion.

"In the cosmic perspective, the archons present a dynamic aspect of the 
evolutionary scenario of humankind, through which human potential is tested. 
The Gnostic view of their role closely mat

[proletar] Re: PENGHANCURAN MARKAS ALIEN REPTILIAN DI ARAB DAN CHINA

2011-11-15 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Goodbye YAHWEH. Sudah ribuan tahun kau menipu, kau yang menjadi pegadaian 
dimana Jesus kamu matikan jadi kurban "tebusan" dan kau memerangkap semua 
manusia, mengatakan semua manusia berhutang . Hutang sama nenekmu ??? 

Kaulah yg pertama memperkenalkan kurban tumbal  sajen diatas penderitaan 
binatang, yang kemudian kau hisap nyawanya jadi makananmu.  Dasar pencuri !! 
maling !! Kau pendusta. Benar kata Jesus bahwa kau Bapak semua Pendusta dan kau 
pembunuh manusia dari semula. 

Selamat jalan YAHWEH dan semua reptilian yang mengikutimu. Tempatmu di bumi 
sudah tidak ada dan kau sudah dibuang ke bagian terasing alam semesta. 
Dilemparkan ke nyala api. Mampus kau.  
  



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Ini biang keladi kekacauan di bumi yang nyata. Markas alien di dasar laut 
> Teluk Aden, sudah beroperasi di situ 5000 tahun, memancarkan gelombang suara 
> ke seluruh wilayah timur tengah, yang menyebabkan ketakutan dan permusuhan, 
> agitasi, kebencian, sehingga segala permusuhan terjadi di situ.   
> 
> Ini dia rupanya markas alien2 macam Yahweh itu... Sekarang sudah dihancurkan 
> oleh pasukan alien Andromedan dari Procyon, dengan gelombang sonic. Ditandai 
> oleh gempa.  
> 
> Di China ada, dihancurkan juga sekitar tgl 27 Oktober 2011 yang lalu. Di 
> China gelombangnya memancarkan rasa takut, kuatir, dan tidak berdaya.   
> 
> Di Indonesia, melihat petanya, ada di Jawa Barat, di Sumatera Tengah, di 
> Bali, di Sumba, dan Papua.
> 
> Weleh weleh  
> 
> 
> http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-removing-reptilian-undersea-bases-from-middle-east-china
> 
> Examiner.com
> By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd
> 
> ED. NOTE: CAVEAT LECTOR - The opinions expressed in this article by 
> interviewees are solely those of the interviewees and do not necessarily 
> reflect the opinions of this reporter or Exopolitics.com. Thank you.
> 
> Confirmation - Destruction of Reptilian undersea base
> 
> In an exclusive Oct. 31, 2011 ExopoliticsTV interview, the human 
> representative of the Andromeda Council stated that a member of the Andromeda 
> Council has confirmed that a 5.0 earthquake reported by the U.S. Geological 
> Survey (U.S.G.S.) to have occurred in the Gulf of Aden at 1:22 am on October 
> 31, 2011 was in fact an effect of a sonic beam weapons attack by the Procyon 
> star system (a member of the Andromeda Council) on a Draco & Hydra Reptilian 
> undersea base located at the same coordinates as the epicenter of the Gulf of 
> Aden earthquake. (See FIG A for U.S.G.S. map setting out the exact epicenter 
> of the Gulf of Aden earthquake). 
> Advertisement
> 
> In an October 31, 2011 statement, Tolec, the human representative of the 
> Andromeda Council stated, "Yes, I was able to confirm this event with the 
> commander of the primary biosphere where many of the Andromeda Council 
> meetings are held.  This was a strike by the Procyon people.  They're just 
> doing their job as promised.  This base in now completely collapsed & 
> destroyed."
> 
> Tolec, the human representative of the Andromeda Council, forwarded this 
> reporter this statement confirming the Andromeda Council attack.  At the time 
> Tolec forwarded this statement, Tolec had no prior knowledge of the U.S.G.S. 
> map or other source setting out the exact epicenter of the Gulf of Aden 
> earthquake when he forwarded the Andromeda Council statement about this 
> attack. 
> 
> The Andromeda Council statement itself established the location of the 
> Procyon star system sonic beam weapons attack on the reptilian base as 
> identical to the exact location of epicenter of the Oct. 31, 2011 Gulf of 
> Aden earthquake. 
> 
> The Andromeda Council Oct. 31, 2011 attack comes a little more that two 
> months after the Andromeda Council's reported sonic beam weapons' attack of 
> August 23, 2011 that destroyed underground Orion grey and Draco & Hydra 
> reptilian bases and tunnels under Washington, D.C. and that resulted in a 
> shallow 0.1 km earthquake felt from Virginia to Ottawa, Canada.
> 
> Independent researchers have now stated that the August 23, 2001 
> Virginia-Washington, DC earthquake was the result of advanced 
> extraterrestrial attack using frequency weapons to destroy grey, reptilian 
> and New World Order (NWO) bases under Washington, DC, and that similar 
> advanced extraterrestrial attacks destroyed underground reptilian and NWO 
> bases under Denver, CO and in the southwest USA. These statements are in 
> agreement with prior statements of the Andromeda Council as to Andromeda 
> Council attacks destroying reptilian-NOW bases under Washington, DC on August 
> 23, 2011, and subsequently unde

[proletar] Disclosure Imminent? Part II: Many More Bases Destroyed

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/981-undergroundbasesnewinfo

Disclosure Imminent? Part II: Many More Bases Destroyed


Written by David Wilcock Thursday, 13 October 2011 01:11
 

MANY underground bases have now been completely cleared out... materials, 
equipment, and personnel... by yet-unknown forces.

An international coalition, intending to overthrow the Old World Order and free 
humanity from enslavement, is claiming responsibility. They also appear to have 
extraterrestrial assistance in this mission.

Truth or fiction? You decide.

Please link to this article but do not re-post it, as it is being dynamically 
updated as events unfold. Posting key excerpts with the link is encouraged.

Please read Part One first, as otherwise I will be bringing up various points 
that you will be unfamiliar with.





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[proletar] Re: PERANG MELAWAN ALIEN REPTILIAN SUDAH DIMENANGKAN

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/et-council-war-with-grey-draco-reptilian-ets-is-won-no-false-flag-et-invasion

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Alien glongan reptilian dan greys selama ini menduduki bumi, membuat markas 
> dan gelombang suara dan rekayasa untuk menguasai manusia, membuat agama palsu 
> yg ujungnya kekerasan dan politik berkuasa di bumi, melanggar hak asasi dan 
> menutup dari kebenaran, mencuci otak manusia agar goblog selamanya, 
> memerintah dengan sistem tertutup dan teror, menciptakan tuhan2 palsu yg 
> minta tumbal sajen macam pengurbanan kambing domba, segala sesuatu dibuat 
> agar mereka berkuasa mutlak di bumi dengan cara menipu, membunuh dan mencuri. 
> 
> Markas mereka di Mars dan Bulan sudah dikalahkan. Di Bumi juga, karena 
> markas2 besar mereka hancur. Peperangan sudah dimenangkan. Selama ini alien 
> jahat berusaha menakuti manusia bahwa kiamat akan datang dan alien akan 
> menyerbu bumi dan akan mengangkut manusia (skema rapture), ada ramalan planet 
> Nibiru, kiamat 2012, ramalan dari Zeta Talk Bumi akan hancur sehingga manusia 
> akan diangkut ke mothership alien, dll semua itu bohong.   
>  
> Satu lagi info, Bulan itu adalah Satelit buatan. itu adalah Death Star milik 
> Darth Vader. Bulan itu memancarkan frekuensi yang mengacau dan mengendalikan 
> bumi dan sejak lama sudah dipakai untuk markas operasi alien2 jahat. Agama 
> dan ideologi yang dikontrol dari situ memakai lambang bulan...  
> 
> 
> 
> ET Council: War with grey-Draco reptilian ETs is won, no false flag ET 
> invasion
> 
> By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd
> 
> In an exclusive ExopoliticsTV interview by Alfred Lambremont Webre with a 
> human representative-contactee of the extraterrestrial governance council 
> known as the Andromeda Council it has been revealed that the war of 
> liberation against a 4th dimensional Orion grey and Draco reptilian alliance 
> has been won by the forces of the Andromeda Council as of the 3rd quarter of 
> 2011.  The attempted the occupation of Earth, our moon and Mars by this 
> grey-Reptilian alliance is over.  The defeated grey-reptilian forces have 
> been sent via stargate into the far reaches of our universe.
> 
> The Andromeda Council representative states in his ExopoliticsTV interview 
> that the forces of the 4th dimensional Orion grey and Draco reptilian forces 
> that remain on Earth consist of small pockets of isolated forces around such 
> as Washington, DC.  
> Advertisement
> 
> According to the Andromeda Council representative, the defeat of the Orion 
> grey and Reptilian occupation force on Earth, moon and Mars has the effect of 
> leaving the Illuminati and Annunaki power structure on Earth, moon and Mars 
> without any effective 4th dimensional back-up.  Any attempt by the remaining 
> grey and reptilian forces to assist Illuminati "false flag ET invasion" will 
> be defeated, and any false flag ET invasion will fail.
> 
> Listen to ExopoliticsTV interview with Andromeda Council representative
> 
> Readers can listen to ExopoliticsTV interview with the Andromeda Council 
> representative embedded in the article above and at the URL below:
> 
> LISTEN TO INTERVIEW
> 
> http://youtu.be/d9KECe8Mu7Q
>






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[proletar] PERANG MELAWAN ALIEN REPTILIAN SUDAH DIMENANGKAN

Alien glongan reptilian dan greys selama ini menduduki bumi, membuat markas dan 
gelombang suara dan rekayasa untuk menguasai manusia, membuat agama palsu yg 
ujungnya kekerasan dan politik berkuasa di bumi, melanggar hak asasi dan 
menutup dari kebenaran, mencuci otak manusia agar goblog selamanya, memerintah 
dengan sistem tertutup dan teror, menciptakan tuhan2 palsu yg minta tumbal 
sajen macam pengurbanan kambing domba, segala sesuatu dibuat agar mereka 
berkuasa mutlak di bumi dengan cara menipu, membunuh dan mencuri. 

Markas mereka di Mars dan Bulan sudah dikalahkan. Di Bumi juga, karena markas2 
besar mereka hancur. Peperangan sudah dimenangkan. Selama ini alien jahat 
berusaha menakuti manusia bahwa kiamat akan datang dan alien akan menyerbu bumi 
dan akan mengangkut manusia (skema rapture), ada ramalan planet Nibiru, kiamat 
2012, ramalan dari Zeta Talk Bumi akan hancur sehingga manusia akan diangkut ke 
mothership alien, dll semua itu bohong.   
 
Satu lagi info, Bulan itu adalah Satelit buatan. itu adalah Death Star milik 
Darth Vader. Bulan itu memancarkan frekuensi yang mengacau dan mengendalikan 
bumi dan sejak lama sudah dipakai untuk markas operasi alien2 jahat. Agama dan 
ideologi yang dikontrol dari situ memakai lambang bulan...  



ET Council: War with grey-Draco reptilian ETs is won, no false flag ET invasion

By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

In an exclusive ExopoliticsTV interview by Alfred Lambremont Webre with a human 
representative-contactee of the extraterrestrial governance council known as 
the Andromeda Council it has been revealed that the war of liberation against a 
4th dimensional Orion grey and Draco reptilian alliance has been won by the 
forces of the Andromeda Council as of the 3rd quarter of 2011.  The attempted 
the occupation of Earth, our moon and Mars by this grey-Reptilian alliance is 
over.  The defeated grey-reptilian forces have been sent via stargate into the 
far reaches of our universe.

The Andromeda Council representative states in his ExopoliticsTV interview that 
the forces of the 4th dimensional Orion grey and Draco reptilian forces that 
remain on Earth consist of small pockets of isolated forces around such as 
Washington, DC.  
Advertisement

According to the Andromeda Council representative, the defeat of the Orion grey 
and Reptilian occupation force on Earth, moon and Mars has the effect of 
leaving the Illuminati and Annunaki power structure on Earth, moon and Mars 
without any effective 4th dimensional back-up.  Any attempt by the remaining 
grey and reptilian forces to assist Illuminati "false flag ET invasion" will be 
defeated, and any false flag ET invasion will fail.

Listen to ExopoliticsTV interview with Andromeda Council representative

Readers can listen to ExopoliticsTV interview with the Andromeda Council 
representative embedded in the article above and at the URL below:

LISTEN TO INTERVIEW

http://youtu.be/d9KECe8Mu7Q






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[proletar] PENGHANCURAN MARKAS ALIEN REPTILIAN DI ARAB DAN CHINA

Ini biang keladi kekacauan di bumi yang nyata. Markas alien di dasar laut Teluk
Aden, sudah beroperasi di situ 5000 tahun, memancarkan gelombang suara ke
seluruh wilayah timur tengah, yang menyebabkan ketakutan dan permusuhan,
agitasi, kebencian, sehingga segala permusuhan terjadi di situ.

Ini dia rupanya markas alien2 macam Yahweh itu... Sekarang sudah dihancurkan
oleh pasukan alien Andromedan dari Procyon, dengan gelombang sonic. Ditandai
oleh gempa.

Di China ada, dihancurkan juga sekitar tgl 27 Oktober 2011 yang lalu. Di China
gelombangnya memancarkan rasa takut, kuatir, dan tidak berdaya.

Di Indonesia, melihat petanya, ada di Jawa Barat, di Sumatera Tengah, di Bali,
di Sumba, dan Papua.

Weleh weleh

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-removing-reptilian-undersea-bases-from-middle-east-china

Examiner.com
By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

ED. NOTE: CAVEAT LECTOR - The opinions expressed in this article by
interviewees are solely those of the interviewees and do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of this reporter or Exopolitics.com. Thank you.

Confirmation - Destruction of Reptilian undersea base

In an exclusive Oct. 31, 2011 ExopoliticsTV interview, the human representative
of the Andromeda Council stated that a member of the Andromeda Council has
confirmed that a 5.0 earthquake reported by the U.S. Geological Survey
(U.S.G.S.) to have occurred in the Gulf of Aden at 1:22 am on October 31, 2011
was in fact an effect of a sonic beam weapons attack by the Procyon star system
(a member of the Andromeda Council) on a Draco & Hydra Reptilian undersea base
located at the same coordinates as the epicenter of the Gulf of Aden
earthquake. (See FIG A for U.S.G.S. map setting out the exact epicenter of the
Gulf of Aden earthquake).
Advertisement

In an October 31, 2011 statement, Tolec, the human representative of the
Andromeda Council stated, "Yes, I was able to confirm this event with the
commander of the primary biosphere where many of the Andromeda Council meetings
are held. This was a strike by the Procyon people. They're just doing their
job as promised. This base in now completely collapsed & destroyed."

Tolec, the human representative of the Andromeda Council, forwarded this
reporter this statement confirming the Andromeda Council attack. At the time
Tolec forwarded this statement, Tolec had no prior knowledge of the U.S.G.S.
map or other source setting out the exact epicenter of the Gulf of Aden
earthquake when he forwarded the Andromeda Council statement about this attack.

The Andromeda Council statement itself established the location of the Procyon
star system sonic beam weapons attack on the reptilian base as identical to the
exact location of epicenter of the Oct. 31, 2011 Gulf of Aden earthquake.

The Andromeda Council Oct. 31, 2011 attack comes a little more that two months
after the Andromeda Council's reported sonic beam weapons' attack of August 23,
2011 that destroyed underground Orion grey and Draco & Hydra reptilian bases
and tunnels under Washington, D.C. and that resulted in a shallow 0.1 km
earthquake felt from Virginia to Ottawa, Canada.

Independent researchers have now stated that the August 23, 2001
Virginia-Washington, DC earthquake was the result of advanced extraterrestrial
attack using frequency weapons to destroy grey, reptilian and New World Order
(NWO) bases under Washington, DC, and that similar advanced extraterrestrial
attacks destroyed underground reptilian and NWO bases under Denver, CO and in
the southwest USA. These statements are in agreement with prior statements of
the Andromeda Council as to Andromeda Council attacks destroying reptilian-NOW
bases under Washington, DC on August 23, 2011, and subsequently under Denver,
CO and in the southwest USA.

The Andromeda Council

The Andromeda Council is a reported galactic governance council composed of
selected star system representatives that carry out governance and development
functions in a selected areas of our populated and organized galaxy and
universe.

Information, interviews and articles regarding the Andromeda Council can be
viewed at:

http://bit.ly/nuLglX

Gulf of Aden attack predicted in October 26, 2011 Andromeda Council statement

On October 26, 2011, this reporter published an exclusive Andromeda Council
report "disclosed policing actions being undertaken by star systems of the
Andromeda Council using advanced sonic energy beam weapons against specific
undersea bases operated by Draco & Hydra based reptilian extraterrestrials off
of the Middle East and of China."

The October 26, 2011 report predicted the Andromeda Council sonic beam weapons
attack on the reptilian undersea base in the Gulf of Aden that appears to have
been fulfilled by an attack whose effects were demonstrated in the Oct. 31,
2011 Gulf of Aden earthquake.

Watch Oct. 31 ExopoliticsTV interview regarding the Gulf of Aden earth

[proletar] Financial Times: Euro Crisis Reveals Limits of U.S. Leadership

2011-11-03 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Krisis Eurozone menunjukkan bahwa Amerika bingung dan tidak lagi mampu menjadi 
pemimpin dunia. USA sendiri sedang mengalami masalah besar... 

Financial Times: Euro Crisis Reveals Limits of U.S. Leadership
Author: 
Richard McGregor

http://www.cfr.org/

November 2, 2011
Richard McGregor explains how the eurozone crisis showcases diminished U.S. 
capacity to lead, as Congress debates how to best support the bail out.

Among those blindsided by Greece's decision to call a referendum on the 
eurozone's rescue package, count Barack Obama's White House.

For months, the administration has been watching the unravelling of the various 
patched-together deals to save the single currency with a mixture of despair, 
frustration, annoyance, disbelief, and, for much of the time, helplessness, a 
sensation neither familiar nor welcome in the corridors of power of imperial 
Washington.

On top of the angst induced by the crisis in Greece, there's also some 
understanding in Washington of the difficulties in forging a eurozone agreement 
and a sense of humility forged by America's own deep fiscal problems.





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[proletar] Top Muslim Declares All Christians 'Infidels'

2011-10-31 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Top Muslim Declares All Christians 'Infidels'

by Raymond Ibrahim
Pajamas Media
October 28, 2011
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To what extent was Egypt's Maspero massacre, wherein the military literally 
mowed down Christian Copts protesting the ongoing destruction of their 
churches, a product of anti-Christian sentiment?

A video of Egypt's Grand Mufti, Sheikh Ali Gomaa (or Gom'a), which began 
circulating weeks before the massacre, helps elucidate. While holding that 
Muslims may coexist with Christians (who, as dhimmis, have rights), Gomaa 
categorized Christians as kuffar  "infidels"  a word that connotes "enemies," 
"evil-doers," and every bad thing to Muslim ears.

After quoting Quran 5:17, "Infidels are those who declare God is the Christ, 
[Jesus] son of Mary," he expounded by saying any association between a human 
and God (in Arabic, shirk) is the greatest sin: "Whoever thinks the Christ is 
God, or the Son of God, not symbolically  for we are all sons of God  but 
attributively, has rejected the faith which God requires for salvation," 
thereby becoming an infidel.

Gomaa then offered a hypothetical dialogue between Christians and Muslims to 
illustrate Islam's proper position:

Christians: You have the wrong idea about us; we don't worship the Christ.

Muslims: Okay, fine; we were under the wrong impression  but, by the way: 
"Infidels are those who declare God is the Christ, son of Mary."

Christians: But these are philosophical matters that we are unable to 
explain.

Muslims: Okay, fine; God is onebut, by the way: "Infidels are those who 
declare God is the Christ, son of Mary."

As a graduate of and long-time professor at Al Azhar university and Grand Mufti 
of Egypt (a position second in authority only to Sheikh Al Azhar), Ali Gomaa 
represents mainstream Islam's  not "radical Islam's" or "Islamism's"  
position concerning the "other," in this case, Christians. Regardless, many in 
the West hail him as a "moderate"  such as this U.S. News article titled 
"Finding the Voices of Moderate Islam"; Lawrence Wright describes him as "a 
highly promoted champion of moderate Islam":

He is the kind of cleric the West longs for, because of his assurances that 
there is no conflict with democratic rule and no need for theocracy. Gomaa has 
also become an advocate for Muslim women, who he says should have equal 
standing with men.

How does one reconcile such sunny characterizations with reality? The fact is, 
whenever top Muslim authorities like Gomaa say something that can be made to 
conform to Western ideals, Westerners jump on it (while of course ignoring 
their more "extreme" positions). It is the same with Gomaa's alma mater, Al 
Azhar, the "chief center of Islamic and Arabic learning in the world."

MEMRI, for instance, recently published a report titled "The Sheikh of Al Azhar 
in an Exceptionally Tolerant Article: Christianity, Judaism Share Basic Tenets 
of Islam." Of course, the day after this report appeared, this same sheikh  
Islam's most authoritative figure  insisted that the American ambassador wear 
a hijab when meeting him: just as Muslim "radicals" compel Christian girls to 
wear the hijab, "moderate" Al Azhar compels U.S. diplomats.

In short, yes, many religions "share basic tenets," but they are secondary to 
the differences, which are more final and define the relationship. Or, to put 
it in Ali Gomaa's paradigm: Fine, Christianity and Islam have commonalities  
but, by the way: "Infidels are those who declare God is the Christ, son of 
Mary."

The fact is, this Quranic verse is as much a cornerstone of Islam's view of 
Christianity as the unity of God and Christ is a cornerstone of Christianity, 
articulated some 1700 years ago in the Nicene Creed. The issue is clear cut for 
all involved.

Accordingly, how can one fault Gomaa? As Grand Mufti, he is simply being true 
to Islam's teachings. Indeed, his consistency is more commendable than the 
equivocations of Western ecumencalists who, by falling over themselves to 
assure Muslims that they all essentially believe in the same things, 
demonstrate, especially to Muslims, that they believe in nothing.

Incidentally, if Gomaa upholds the plain teachings of the Quran concerning who 
is an infidel, is it not fair to assume he also upholds the Quran's teachings 
on how to confront them, as commanded in Quran 9: 29: "Fight  the People of 
the Book [Jews and Christians] until they pay the Jizya [tribute] with willing 
submission, and feel themselves subdued." Of course, prudent Muslims, 
undoubtedly like Gomaa himself, know that now is not the time to talk openly 
about such things.

Either way, here is another reminder of how Quranic verses and terms that 
Western people brush aside as arcane or irrelevant have a tremendous impact on 
current events  such as Egypt's Maspero massacre: For the same word Gomaa, the 
nation's Grand Mufti, used to describe Christians is the same word Mu

[proletar] SIMBOL BULAN SABIT dan BINTANG ...

2011-10-31 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Simbol bulan sabit dan bintang adalah simbolnya dewi bulan, Diana, ribuan tahun 
sebelum Islam, dan simbol itu nampaknya berasal dari bulan dan planet Venus 
diatasnya. Lihat video contohnya.  
http://gaitanjerry.blogspot.com/2010/05/beautiful-cresent-moon-and-awesome.html
Memang bagus dan menarik. 
Ini sejajar dengan mengapa Allah itu kata berjenis feminin?? 

Sekarang pertanyaannya, coba lihat simbolnya komunis. Bulan bintang juga!! Ada 
pedangnya. Pedang Arab atau scimitar itu bentuknya lengkung. Sabit dalam simbol 
komunis itu nampaknya penipuan. Sebetulnya itu bulan. Diatasnya ada bintang, 
pentagram, simbol dari witchcraft (sihir). Kalau pengikut witchcraft spt 
digambarkan dalam Harry Potter membawa athame (belati) dan dalam meng-invoke 
(mengundang) dan mem-banish (menolak) kekuatan supranatural mereka menggunakan 
pola pentagram. Aku tahu caranya. untuk membanish, mulainya dari ujung kiri 
bawah, naik ke atas, turun kanan bawah, naik kiri atas, silang ke kanan atas, 
lalu turun ke kiri bawah semula. Pentagram adalah ciri khas pengikut setan dan 
witchcraft.   

Lalu apa bedanya simbol Islam dengan Komunis?? Bulan sabit dan bintangnya sama. 
Bedanya ada palu martil di simbol komunis. Itu saja. 

Kalau aku alien jahat yang menciptakan dua ideologi ini, aku akan pakai Islam 
untuk memusnahkan Kristen dan Hindu. Aku akan memakai Komunis untuk memusnahkan 
agama Buddha. Setelah itu bumi aku kuasai dalam sistem tertutup dimana semua 
dihomogenisir dan distandarisir dan tidak ada moral nurani lagi karena semua 
manusia harus tunduk dibawah sistem HUKUM.  

hua ha ha haa haa  

(sambil berbisik) ... sebab aku tahu dua dan tiga agama itu mengajarkan ajaran 
Isa Almasih. Kristen yang sudah aku busukkan itu mengajarkan ajaran Jesus yang 
menjadi tumbal sajen dewa drakula yahudi bernama Yahweh, nama bikinanku. Tapi 
mereka berbahaya karena mereka punya Rohulqudus. Hindu punya Krishna yang mirip 
Kristus. Buddha, nah ini mereka tidak sulit, sekalipun mereka olah batin dan 
spiritual dan Buddhist Zen itu sangat mirip ajaran Jesus yang asli. Diinjak 
saja dengan komunisme yang mengajarkan manusia itu binatang dan mesti 
diperlakukan sebagai binatang. Spiritualis dan kebatinan musti lenyap. Ajaran 
Jesus itu harus lenyap, dan aku akan berkuasa di bumi sambil memangsa manusia2 
goblog yang sudah aku suruh jungkir balik tiap hari sibuk sembahyang dan 
segudang tatacara fisik. Aku cuci otak mereka habis-habisan. beres deh. Siapa 
berani mengajarkan ajaran Isa mengenai Tuhan adalah Bapak umat manusia akan aku 
lenyapkan ... (menyeringai dengan senyum yang misterius dan keji)  



The Beautiful Cresent Moon and a awesome Evening Star
Posted by zimz on Sunday, May 16, 2010 Labels: 2010 cresent moon, cresent moon, 
manila, moon, philippines, stars

http://gaitanjerry.blogspot.com/2010/05/beautiful-cresent-moon-and-awesome.html

Filipinos received a "front-row seat" last Sunday evening, May 16, 2010 to a 
common and yet always awesome sight  the "evening star" visibly sitting on top 
of a crescent moon. People were abuzz both offline and online as people took 
photos of this astrological occurrence and posted it on social media sites.

The "evening star" is, as many may know already, the planet Venus. As community 
member Wiser explains in a question, Venus is the brightest object in the night 
sky after Moon so people thought in the early days (before we has astronomy) it 
was a star.

Actually, when Venus is seen in the easter sky before the sunrise it is 
referred to as a "morning star" and when it is seen in the evening in the west 
after sunset (similar to what just happened last night) it's called an "evening 
star."

How does this happen, that Venus appears as a star? Nuscorpi223 explained that 
it's because Venus' orbit lies inside Earth's orbit around the Sun. When the 
orbit of Venus passes between the Earth and the Sun, it also reflects the light 
of the Sun to earth so that when it moves from the evening to the morning sky, 
it becomes very visible to us and appears as a "star".

To people who have just seen this, one question that may be on your mind is if 
there's any significance to the crescent moon and Venus being so close 
together. Don't worry, this natural phenomenon has no effect on Earth. 
Community member podi shared that planetary alignments have been happening for 
the longest time and there's never been a documented effect to our planet.

But have you ever wondered why the crescent moon and star has come to symbolize 
Islam? This was asked by bettycatmouse and Schneb gave the best answer. He said 
the crescent moon and star symbol actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand 
years. Most sources say that these ancient celestial symbols were in use by the 
peoples of Central Asia and Siberia in their worship of the sun, moon and sky 
gods. In this Wikipedia article, it says that possibly the symbol became 
associated with the Muslim faith when the Ottoman Empire became affiliated with 
the M

[proletar] Re: Tamu auloh digebukin di tanah suci

2011-10-30 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Ke arab itu seperti masuk negeri yang sangat berbahaya. Kenyataannya begitu. 


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe tamu auloh digebukin dan ditahan di tanah suci. 
> 
> Katanya sih si tamu auloh ini melakukan penyerangan. Dan memang si tamu auloh 
> ini melakukan "penyerangan" thd kaum Islam dgn nunjukin bhw dia itu orang 
> Shia, makanya sbg musuh "auloh", si tamu auloh ini hrs digebukin dan 
> ditangkap. (Gua tau dia Shia dr komentar artikel, baca aja sendiri)
> 
> Indahnya Islam itu 
> 
> 
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/10/30/edmonton-imam-arrested.html
> 
> Edmonton imam jailed, reportedly beaten at hajj
> Saudi religious police detain cleric in Medina during Muslim pilgrimage
> CBC News 
> Posted: Oct 30, 2011  10:23 AM ET 
> Last Updated:  Oct 30, 2011   4:06 PM ET Read 387 comments387
> 
> 
> An imam from Canada is under arrest in Saudi Arabia after he was 
> attacked by a mob and beaten while attending hajj, according to 
> witnesses.
> Witnesses say Usama Al-Atar was beaten and kicked by men summoned by Saudi 
> religious police before his arrest.
> 
>  
> The attack took place at a cemetery in Medina early Sunday morning and was 
> reportedly sparked when religious police approached an international 
> group of pilgrims that included the imam, Usama Al-Atar of Edmonton.
> Witnesses said angry words were spoken, then things calmed down. 
> That's when a single member of the religious police approached Al-Atar, 
> offered to shake his hand and then called out to a group of men at a 
> taxi stand.
> They rushed in and began beating Al-Atar, kicking him and attempting to 
> throttle him, the witnesses said.
> Medina central police arrived, escorted the Canadian to a car and drove away, 
> according to the witnesses.
> Several witnesses said the attack was unprovoked, CBC journalist Muhammad 
> Lila wrote on his Twitter page.
> It's not clear whether others in the group of international pilgrims, which 
> included Canadians and Britons, were injured. Members of the 
> group have contacted the British Embassy and were told the British would 
> contact Canadian authorities.
> The Foreign Affairs Department issued a statement Sunday afternoon 
> saying it was aware of Al-Atar's arrest and would provide consular 
> assistance.
> It's believed Al-Atar, who has a PhD in chemistry and is a 
> post-doctoral fellow at the University of Alberta, has been charged with 
> assault. Saudi police have not confirmed this, however.
> The annual Muslim pilgrimage, known as hajj, is a pillar of the 
> Islamic faith and draws millions of participants to Saudi Arabia. The 
> main sites are in Mecca, but some pilgrims travel to Medina as well.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[proletar] RI jadi contoh negara beragam budaya- SBY akan pidato utama di forum UNESCO

2011-10-30 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Dipertahankan dan dikembangkan, aku ingat masa di foto-foto lama itu, waktu itu 
kalau natalan yang muslim memberi salam pd yg nasrani, sebaliknya waktu idul 
fitri. sekarang mah, ogah!! 
waktu itu jarang ada perempuan pake jilbab, semua perempuan bebas enak pakai 
dan lihatnya di negeri yang panas gerah pol seperti ini dan tingkat zinah 
perkosaan rendah gak spt sekarang (wong rambut aja ditutupi, apa gunanya, 
perempuan indonesia tua jelek kayak item abu aja ditutupi, untuk apa, ngelihat 
telanjang juga ogah !!)  waktu itu gak ada borobudur dibom lalu patung 
gatotkaca dan patung lele dirubuhkan demi menegakkan ideologi entah darimana, 
belum ada militan bersenjata macam FPI yang meniru pasukan nabi yg merebut 
mekkah dan menghancurkan khaybar, masjid juga gak sekeras ini dibangun di 
setiap eRTe dan berteriak sekeras kerasnya dengan suara sumbang yang itu-itu 
juga lima kali sekian kali sehari (jaman sekarang sudah jaman ipod iphone mp4 
kenapa gak diputer aja itu suaranya si Wali atau neng neng merdu penyanyi 
rohani islam yang bagus itu di corong toa masjid), juga belum ada masjid 
dilempari dan dianiaya habis spt ahmadiyah celaka itu, 

Kalau bukan karena dasar ajaran non-arab di Indonesia yang bagus dan 
multikultural, mustahil Indonesia jadi rukun multikultural. 
   
RI jadi contoh negara beragam budaya

Oleh Irsad Sati, Linda T. Silitonga

Senin, 31 Oktober 2011 | 09:23 WIB

Large_budayaa
Berita Terkait

Presiden SBY ke Prancis hadiri KTT G-20
SBY akan pidato utama di forum UNESCO
Pertemuan UNESCO di Bali bahas warisan budaya
Dunia diminta tak abaikan negara berkembang
SBY instruksikan antisipasi banjir

JAKARTA: Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono mengatakan UNESCO menjadikan 
Indonesia  sebagai contoh negara yang dinilai mampu membangun bangsa di atas 
keragaman budaya.

Kepala Negara mengatakan atas penilaian tersebut juga yang menjadi alasan badan 
PBB itu meminta Yudhoyono menyampaikan pidato kunci pada sesi khusus perayaan 
Ulang Tahun ke-10 Deklarasi Universal Keragaman Budaya pada 2 November.
 
"Mengapa kita dipilih untuk bisa menyampaikan pidato utama itu, karena mereka 
menilai Indonesia adalah salah satu contoh negara yang memiliki budaya yang 
amat beragam," kata Presiden Yudhoyono dalam jumpa pers di Lanud Halim 
Perdanakusuma hari ini sesaat sebelum bertolak ke Prancis.

Namun, ujarnya, UNESCO menyadari tentu bukanlah hal yang mudah untuk mengelola 
keragaman budaya tersebut. Untuk itu mereka ingin mengetahui bagaimana 
Indonesia bisa melakukannya.
 
Yudhoyono mengatakan kehadirannya dalam acara yang digelar di UNESCO juga ingin 
menyampaikan mengenai pandangan dan usulannya tentang bagaimana dunia bisa 
lebih bersatu, dan menghormati perbedaan budaya dan nilai peradaban.

"Mereka [UNESCO] juga tentu tahu managing diversity itu bukan sesuatu mudah. 
Oleh karena itu mereka ingin dengar apa saja yang kita lakukan dalam kaitan 
itu," kata SBY. (tw)





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[proletar] DUALISTIC Ideology, Ciri Pokok ALIEN JAHAT

2011-10-29 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Dalam informasi dari alien Ashtar Command atau sumber2 alien lain, sering 
disebut bahwa alien jahat (yang bernama iblis, lucifer, setan atau apapun itu), 
memakai ideologi dasar mereka DUALISME. 
Aku sudah cukup lama tidak mengerti apa maksudnya, karena memang nyatanya kita 
dihadapkan pada pihak baik dan jahat. Belakangan baru aku sadar maksudnya.   

Dualisme adalah ideologi dimana realitas dibagi dua pihak. Dua pihak yang 
bertentangan.  

Dualism (from the Latin word duo meaning "two") denotes a state of two parts. 
The term 'dualism' was originally coined to denote co-eternal binary 
opposition, a meaning that is preserved in metaphysical and philosophical 
duality discourse but has been diluted in general or common usages. Dualism can 
refer to moral dualism, (e.g. the conflict between good and evil), mind-body or 
mind-matter dualism (e.g. Cartesian Dualism) or physical dualism (e.g. the 
Chinese Yin and Yang).

Baik atau jahat itu adalah dualisme moral, dan itu kenyataan. Kita memilih yang 
baik atau jahat.   

Tapi, pihak alien jahat tidak mengajarkan dualisme moral (baik-jahat) tetapi 
dengan pintar sengaja menciptakan ajaran palsu dimana selalu dibuat ada DUA 
pihak yang saling bertentangan. Pihak kita adalah pihak yang benar, dan pihak 
lain salah sehingga harus dimusnahkan, tanpa mengindahkan moral baik-jahat 
lagi. Selalu moral tidak dipakai lagi.   

Ini adalah inti Materialisme Dialektis dalam komunis, dimana dibuat 
"pertentangan kelas." Kalian proletar diwajibkan berjuang melawan kaum borjuis. 
Lalu dianjurkan revolusi. Setelah semua kasta dan kelas dihancurkan, maka akan 
muncul diktator proletar, yang ujungnya orang macam Stalin, Lenin, Mao, dan 
presiden Korut, dll. Dunia dikuasai dalam sistem tertutup dimana Tuhan dan alam 
semesta dilarang masuk. Malahan jadi kultus individu, manusia dijadikan Tuhan. 
Tidak ada moral dipakai. Jadi komunisme garis keras itu adalah benar2 
ideologinya alien jahat, setan dan iblis itu. 

Dualisme itu juga menjadi ciri khas Nazi Jerman dan Jepang abad 20, dimana 
mereka percaya mereka adalah bangsa yang terbaik dan yang lain harus 
ditundukkan. Perang dan pemusnahan dilakukan.   
 
Dualisme itu dibuat dalam ajaran Yahudi-Zionis, dimana mereka (membaca Bible) 
mengatakan mereka bangsa terpilih dan bangsa lain adalah kafir. Dalam Protocol 
Zion disebutkan yang setara bahwa mereka adalah para serigala (Fox) dan bangsa 
lain adalah Goyim alias binatang ternak. Dalam kelompok elite Illuminati 
(pengikutnya adalah banyak presiden dan penguasa Amerika, pemukanya 
salahsatunya adalah Dick Cheney) yang ingin menguasai dunia menggunakan 
konspirasi menuju New World Order diajarkan hal yang serupa. 

Ternyata dalam ISLAM didapati hal yang persis sama juga. Dalam Quran 3:28, 
3:118 dan 60:1 diperintahkan untuk tidak berpartner dengan kaum kafir. Dalam 
milis2 dan di masjid2 sering kita dengar para ustadz dengan tegas mengatakan 
bahwa mereka adalah "orang beriman" yang akan masuk syurga dan kalian yang lain 
adalah kafir yang masuk neraka. Tidak boleh berpartner dengan kafir. Tidak 
boleh kawin dengan kafir. Dalam takbir Idul Fitri disebut jelas bahwa ini hari 
kemenangan melawan kafirun. Dunia dibagi dua. Satu dunia orang beriman, dua 
dunia orang kafir. Itulah pola pikir dasar Islam sehingga Muhammad berperang 
melawan semua suku lain dan memberikan wasiat bahwa kaum nasrani dan yahudi 
harus diusir semua dari jazirah Arabia. Itulah motif yang mendasari jihad 
sebagai cara perjuangan. 

Contoh sudah terlalu banyak. Sama seperti Nazi dan komunis garis keras 
dilarang, demikian juga seharusnya Islam, bukan hanya ini karena menjadi bahaya 
latent dan ancaman subversi bagi negara2, tetapi juga karena inilah ideologi 
alien jahat yang kalian sebut sebagai setan, atau nama apapun, yang berkedok 
apapun, yang mengaku sebagai tuhan, atau memakai nama siapapun. Alien ini 
disebut Isa sebagai penipu dan pembohong, serta pembunuh manusia dari semula. 
Dimana2 syariah Islam diterapkan lalu terjadi diskriminasi perempuan, 
penganiayaan, pembunuhan, kurban tumbal sajen jutaan hewan idul adha untuk 
memberi sajen makanan ghaib bagi tuhan yang disebut allah dan seterusnya. 
Bahkan akidahnya saja "Laa Ilaha Ilaalah" yang kalau diterjemahkan apa adanya 
sebenarnya bisa berarti Tidak Ada Tuhan, yang ada adalah Allah, si alien yang 
gentayangan di langit menipu manusia untuk saling bermusuhan. Jadi menurut 
alien Allah itu memang Tuhan tidak ada, yang ada adalah dia sendiri. Hebat kan 
penipuan itu?? Jadi kalau setan menipu itu biasa. Nama bisa menipu. Mode dan 
filosofi tidak pernah bohong.   


ISLAMEXPOSE

Allah expressly forbids Muslim-kuffar partnerships in several ayat including 
3:28, 3:118 & 60:1. 

3:28. Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliyâ (supporters, 
helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be 
helped by Allâh in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And 
Allâh warns you against Himself (His Punishment),

[proletar] Hudud Turns Back the Clock ... to 7 th Century in Savage Arab Desert

2011-10-29 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Politikus Cina di Malaysia sudah berani berkata bahwa hukum syariah itu kembali 
ke abad primitif. Ini karena di alam gaib kekuatan Iblis yang mendalangi Islam 
sudah dipatahkan. Coba kalau 10 tahun lalu, apa tidak dibunuh tuh orang cina 
dgn berteriak allahu barbar ???   


Jihad Watch
Islamophobic admission from Malaysian-Chinese political party: 'Hudud turns 
back the clock'
Here's a startling Islamophobic admission from one of the dhimmi auxiliaries of 
Malaysia's ruling (i.e Muslim) political party UMNO, namely that implementing 
part of Sharia called hudud (Islamic laws that deal with apostasy, theft, 
sexual crimes and the consumption of alcohol) may not be in the best interests 
of all Malaysians. Normally, the Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) can be 
relied upon to follow orders from its Muslim superiors in UMNO, but this isn't 
the first time MCA has spoken out against the ongoing encroachment of Islam in 
Malaysia. Such truth telling about Islam is especially noteworthy for its 
novelty. Even considering the tactically limited scope of MCA's 'Islamophobic' 
stances, the 'infidels' of MCA are increasingly the lone public voice of 
anti-dhimmitude to be found anywhere in the country. From "Hudud turns back the 
clock," The Star, 29 October 2011:

JOHOR BARU: PAS' intention to carry out hudud law will cause the nation to 
backslide and scare away investors, said MCA president Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi 
Lek.

The impact would be great on foreign direct investments and also tourists 
who would shy away, he said, adding that several countries practising hudud law 
were backward except for their rich natural resources.

Speaking to reporters after attending a function at the Hock Lin Gong 
Chinese temple here yesterday, Dr Chua stressed that even non-Muslims in the 
country would be affected, especially in terms of economy and education.

"It is misleading and a lie to say that the implementation of hudud will 
not affect non-Muslims," he said.

Islamophobic indeed. Is it not also true to say that countries that practice 
Sharia, or countries that practice Islam, are also backward except for their 
rich natural resources? And that the practice of Islam in said states might 
have something to do with this backwardness?
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Hudud turns back the clock to the 7th century!
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[proletar] 2012 KIAMAT ?? 7.19.11 Ashtar: 2012 Update, the last 6 months of 2011

Tahun 2012 bukan planet bumi yang dimusnahkan, tetapi matrix system yang dibuat 
Iblis akan diakhiri. Akan dimulai era baru. Semua manusia jahat pengikut Iblis 
akan distop, tidak akan dilanjutkan lagi hidup mereka. Orang seperti mantan 
wapres AS, Dick Cheney yg sudah mengorbankan jutaan orang, misalnya, akan 
dihabisi dan direcyle, istilah lain dimusnahkan. Semua kejadian planet ini akan 
dikontrol, terutama yang berkaitan dengan konspirasi jahat sudah dan akan 
distop. 

Matrix system sudah dihentikan. Kita merasa ada kebebasan baru, kebahagiaan, 
tidak tertekan dan terancam lagi, itulah buktinya dalam beberapa tahun terakhir 
ini. Ingat di jaman Pak Harto dulu, mau omong mengeritik dia saja takutnya 
bukan main, sampai beraninya hanya di taksi. Demikian pula kita tahu banyak 
masalah dan keganjilan dalam Islam tetapi selama ini tidak berani bicara, 
karena takut dikatakan sesat dan dibakar rumah kita.   
 
Semua itu akan diganti dengan pergantian kesadaran. orang akan sadar untuk 
tidak korupsi, laki2 menjaga matanya masing2 agar tidak berzinah, bukan 
perempuan saja yang harus dikarungi. Pergantian menjadi hidup merdeka untuk 
berbuat baik karena tahu konsekuensinya sampai hidup akhirat, bukan hidup 
melakukan yang "baik" terpaksa karena takut pada MUI atau massa FPI. BAnyak 
sekali yang akan berubah dalam dunia Islam dan itu akan menjadi makin BAIK. 
 
Itulah kiamat 2012 dari info dunia gaib, para alien yang sekarang menguasai 
planet dan tatasurya ini. 

Satu info lagi, mengapa planet ini begitu istimewa?? Aku serius berusaha 
menyelidiki alasannya. Menurut banyak sumber, itu karena 2000 tahun lalu ada 
seorang manusia yang sejatinya Putera Surga yang memilih planet ini sebagai 
tempat inkarnasi atau penjelmaannya. Ia istimewa memilih planet ini, planet 
yang merupakan markas Iblis. Ia bersusah payah mengabarkan Kabar Baik dan 
menyembuhkan orang dengan 12 muridnya hingga akhirnya ia menjadi korban 
keganasan alien penguasa planet ini, dan harus mati dengan cara yang sangat 
hina. Sekalipun ia muslim sejati taat sampai mati pada kemauan Tuhan yang 
mengutusnya. Sekalipun ia tanpa dosa dari lahir hingga matinya, tetapi 
kontroversi dan perlawanan iblis begitu kuatnya selama 2000 tahun sehingga 
begitu banyak permusuhan dan korban dalam hidup manusia terjadi gara2 menerima 
ajaran sang manusia sederhana bernama Isa ini. Contoh, kalau kalian yg muslim 
berani mengatakan aku pengikut Isa, tebak apa yang akan terjadi di keluarga, di 
masyarakat, di KTP??? 

Isa hidup lagi kata pengikutnya. Menurut Islam ia tidak mati tetapi diangkat 
hidup2 ke syurga. Whatever, orang ini memberi bukti 100% ada syurga dan life 
after death, ada akhirat, bukan mati masuk kuburan lalu lenyap blas tidak jelas 
bahkan gambarnya saja harus dihapus dari muka bumi. 

Isa adalah yang Terkemuka di Dunia dan Akhirat itu bukan kata kitab suci. Ia 
akan datang, dan panitia bekerjakeras mempersiapkan kunjungannya ke planet 
nostalgia tragedi yang pastinya akan mengharu birukan kenangan masa lalunya, 
pengalaman tragis hingga seorang Putera Surga yang mengaku ketemu Abbanya 
muka-dengan-muka harus membisikkan ayat hafalan Zabur Mazmur 22 dalam sakratul 
mautnya "Allahku Allahku mengapa Engkau meninggalkan aku?... " 
Padahal Ia yang begitu menyayangi manusia sesamanya, dan tidak membiarkan 
satupun pengikutnya celaka. Hanya Judas Iskariot dan Isa yang celaka, yang lain 
utuh.   

Mereka para panitia alien Ashtar Command dan yang lain ini menuruti dan 
menghormati Isa, sebab Ia adalah Pemimpin dan penguasa mereka. Ashtar Command 
menyebutnya sebagai Lord Sananda, dan kekuatan spiritualnya mereka sebut Christ 
Consciousness yang adalah Rohulqudus atau Roh Kebenaran. Ada yang menyebut 
Michael atau Mikhail sang pemuka. Ada yang menyebut ia Isa, Jesus, atau yg 
lain. 


7.19.11 Ashtar: 2012 Update, the last 6 months of 2011
by admin

The following is a transmission channeled from Commander Ashtar through 
Alexandriah Stahr: Update on 2012, the last 6 months of 2011.

Ashtar: 2012 Update, the last six months of 2011

2012 First Ascension Wave will begin on 1.1.12 and will continue for three 
weeks into the new year. All those aligned and ready for this 2012 Fist 
Ascension Wave will experience a major shift consciousness that will prepare 
each individual for their next step. Since we will be channeling this Ascension 
Wave through you and your Star Team Program, Alexandriah, you will be focused 
on preparing people for this shift.

The next few months will be the most important of the last 20 years and will 
set the direction and vibration for the transition through the 2012 Portal 
which will remain open until 1.1.2013 at which time the next level of Planetary 
Ascension will begin and set the direction and vibration for the next 20 years. 
All of 2012 will be important but the first three weeks will be most important 
and will be the beginning of the Ascended Earth. Many have thought that 2012 
represented the end of the world. This i

[proletar] Manusia yang BERUNTUNG

Kata banyak info yang kubaca, kalian adalah manusia2 yang beruntung sebab 
kalian melihat akhir dari masa kegelapan dan awal era baru planet ini, hal ini 
yang sangat didambakan para nabi di jaman dahulu. 

Ini adalah akhir dan awal zaman. 

Pemerintahan Isa akan segera ditegakkan lagi atas planet ini. 

Matrix2 jahat yang membodohi manusia dalam sistem ideologi agama formal dan 
ajaran2 sesat sudah dihancurkan. Matrix ada dalam SEMUA agama saat ini, tidak 
ada kecuali. Ada yang parah, ada yang lebih ringan. 

Kalau kalian berada dalam sistem itu, kalian pasti sudah merasakan ada 
perubahan2 dalam agama kalian. Inilah sebabnya kita orang yang beruntung, sebab 
apa yang kita alami itu tidak dialami oleh banyak orang lain. Beruntunglah 
kalau kalian ada dalam Islam, sebab sekarang waktunya kalian bisa sekali 
dipakai menjadi pembaharu atau reformator islam. Sebuah agama hanya bisa diubah 
dari dalam. Tidak peduli kaing-kaing orang luar, kalau orang dalam agama itu 
tidak mau berubah, sia-sia semuanya.   

Beruntunglah sebab pengalaman ini tidak dialami orang sebelum dan sesudah kita. 
Seribu, sejuta, semilyar tahun lagi, kalian bisa menceritakan rasanya berada 
dalam sistem matrix agama dan pergulatan heroik yang kalian lakukan. Kita tahu 
mana yang putih dan hitam dengan jelas dengan semua detailnya sebab kita 
MENGHIDUPINYA. Kalau aku jadi Tuhan, percayalah aku akan mengangkat kalian jadi 
orang2 kepercayaanku, untuk berkuasa dan memerintah di semesta raya.  






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[proletar] 10.26.11 Ashtar: Universal Law of Energy Exchange

10.26.11 Ashtar: Universal Law of Energy Exchange
by admin

The following transmission channeled through Commander Alexandriah Stahr from 
Commander Ashtar of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command giving update on 
updating the infra-structure of the Unversal Law of Energy Exchange.

Greetings I am Ashtar of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command come here 
today to give a "Personal, Planetary and All of Creation" update on the 
restructuring of your reality.  As many of you may have experienced recently 
mechanical issues with your car, which represent your "movement through life" 
and "communication issues" with your phones and computers, which represent your 
communications and connections to the "Greater Reality."  We have just 
completed a major restructuring of these parts of reality.  There is a 
communication system that runs through all levels of reality and was in need of 
upgrading to the Christ Vibration.  Those who already communicate on this 
vibration would have felt the need to upgrade your communications in the form 
of desire to buy or upgrade your phones, internet service or computers and all 
related components that keep you "connected" in your world.  Follow these 
promptings as they represent positive and beneficial communication upgrades in 
your life.  When we make these spiritual changes in the higher dimensions, you 
will experience a corresponding impulse to make changes on the physical level.  
It is a reflection of continuing accelerated evolution of consciousness on the 
earth and beyond.
Issues with your car are a reflection of issues with the car part that needs 
replacing.  Issues with the battery and alternator point to issues with energy 
generation, management and storage i.e. the ability to make money and hang on 
to it as opposed to low energy/income levels and the inability to keep reserves 
(battery) on hand. 

The infra-structure of "Universal Energy Exchange" is based on the principal of 
every transaction in life is an exchange of energy in the form of money for 
goods and services.  You need to "give in order to get."  This idea is 
Universal Law that was distorted by Lucifer when he created the MATRIX so that 
he could "steal" energy that didn't belong to him and he no longer had access 
to.  The MATRIX Reality way of doing things tells people that you need to "get" 
everything that you can at the "expense" of others.  It is the negative 
attitude of "entitlement" that many have that makes them think the world "owes 
them a living."  This is a false belief.  Each individual should be thinking 
what "value exchange" can "I" bring to the world in the form of talent, labor, 
time, attention, products or services and how can I keep my "accounts" balanced 
with each person I interact with? Family and friends are a special category as 
we exchange love and affection for the assistance we give to loved ones but 
even in that we must make sure that we do not take advantage of these 
relationships. 

Outside of our immediate love relationships, we have relationships with the 
world in general and in this world it is widely recognized that money is used 
to exchange for labor, products and services.  This basic premise will not 
change after 2012.  Money is not the problem, as money only represents energy 
to exchange.  What is the problem is the wrong thinking in regards to money and 
the imbalance of that wrong thinking being reflected by those who control the 
majority of the resources and money in your world.  What will change is 
people's perception of how to stay in balance with the Universal Law of Energy 
Exchange.  You need to create new ways of being fair and balanced in every 
potential exchange of knowledge, products and services as your personal and 
planetary economy goes through these changes.  It is up to each individual to 
evaluate themselves, clear out any wrong thinking and programming (this is what 
the Monthly Star Team Program Alexandriah offers is designed to do) and 
re-invent themselves for the new marketplaces that are emerging.  It means 
listening to your inner guidance and creativity and providing value exchange 
according to your talents and abilities. 

Let me also address the topic of paying for spiritual assistance.  Many people 
again feel they are "entitled" to spiritual assistance and that it should be 
provided to them for "free" by others who have developed their spiritual gifts 
and abilities. This concept is an example of wrong thinking created by the 
MATRIX and its creators designed to limit the influence of spiritual teachers  
which states, "you have to be poor to be holy." This was originally created as 
part of using religion as a form of limitation in order to keep the people 
"sick, poor and stupid."  When the "New Age" caused people to go beyond the 
limiting religious beliefs within traditional religion, they kept their 
limiting beliefs about money and simply transferred them to their "New Age 
Beliefs" believing that

[proletar] 8.5.11 Ashtar: Disconnecting From the MATRIX Pod

Matrix-Pod yang mengontrol satu persatu manusia dalam satu Master Matrix juga 
dihentikan. 

Baca penjelasanku dalam tiga postingku sebelumnya. Ini riil. Sekarang kita 
berani membongkar alien2 dan tuhan palsu tanpa takut lagi. Pengaruh matrix 
sistem tertutup yang ketat dihentikan. 

Kalian pasti sudah merasakannya sekarang dalam hidup pribadi kalian. 
 

8.5.11 Ashtar: Disconnecting From the MATRIX "Pod"
by admin

The following is a transmission channeled through Commander Alexandriah Stahr 
from Commander Ashtar of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command on 8.5.11 
regarding Freedom From the MATRIX Pod.

Today I bring glad tidings on the continuing process of freeing the Earth and 
All of Creation from the Duality Reality called the MATRIX.

On 7.27.11 we disconnected humanity from the Dark Soul MATRIX. On 7.28.11 we 
disconnected humanity from the Cross Link MATRIX. This process will continue 
for a few more days until All of Creation is free from the "connection" to the 
Master MATRIXES. The next step is being removed from the MATRIX Pod, which is 
your personal MATRIX Programming Pod. Remember the movie, where each person had 
his own container where he was connected to the MATRIX? This is the same thing.

Today 8.5.11 this next step is being taken and will be completed in three days 
Earth Time. In its place, a Christed Replacement Module will be given so that 
humanity's reconnection with the Christ Vibration can begin anew. There will be 
a new release of energy to raise consciousness within all of humanity. This 
process of releasing energy and raising consciousness will continue for many 
years until 2045 when all of humanity alive at that time should be able to hold 
the Christ Vibration on their own. Until that time, we monitor you closely and 
support will be given as we continue to release these Christ Vibration 
Ascension Waves.

Remember even as this process is being done on a Planetary through Cosmic and 
All of Creation Level, how you experience it personally varies based on how 
clear you are to receive it. We do this work through our representative, 
Commander Alexandriah Stahr to prepare the planetary consciousness for the 
release of the Christ Vibration Ascension Waves we send. For those of you who 
work with Alexandriah Stahr directly, she prepares you to be more receptive to 
both the general work that we do and also the higher work that only she can do 
and you agreed to do to assist her with this process through the Star Teams. In 
return, you receive the benefit of this work personally through her Star Team 
Program and we in turn can review and monitor your progress more closely and 
the progress of humanity more generally. This makes a complete circle as is 
required by Universal Law. We cannot intervene without the request and the 
request must come from the dimension requesting it. This is Universal Law.

We have been preparing Alexandriah for this work for many life times. Her 
connection with us is secure. We need her to request and direct our work from 
the Earthly Plane and we guide and direct her work from our dimension. This is 
the technical nature of the Planetary Ascension Process.

Commander Alexandriah Stahr has been preparing for this work for many lifetimes 
as each of you has prepared for your part in the Planetary Ascension as well. 
As we have said many times before, personal clearing of your own personal 
MATRIX Programming is the #1 priority at this time. We are doing our part to 
make it easier for you but effort and work on your part is also required. 
Alexandriah continues to upgrade her programs as we direct to make the process 
as smooth as possible.

We will continue to report on the status of our Planetary MATRIX Clearing Work 
we do with Command Alexandriah Stahr through this blog.

End Transmission

I AM Ashtar

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[proletar] 7.28.11 Ashtar: Dismantling the Cross Link MATRIX

Matrix-tengah ada juga, yang mengaitkan antara Terang dan Gelap, dan menjerat 
manusia terang dalam jaringan gelap. Matrix ini juga sudah dibubarkan, 28 Juli 
2011.   

Kita akan segera melihat buktinya dalam pemikiran keagamaan sekarang. Lihat 
saja.  


7.28.11 Ashtar: Dismantling the Cross Link MATRIX
by admin

The following is a transmission channeled through Commander Alexandriah Stahr 
from Commander Ashtar of the Solar Star Command on July 28, 2011 regarding the 
Dismantling of the Cross Link MATRIX.

Ashtar: Dismantling the Cross Link MATRIX

We continue today to dismantle and remove what is referred to as the  "Cross 
Link MATRIX"  which is souls both Light and Dark that are karmically bound to 
other souls cross linked to other souls connected to the Dark Force Soul 
MATRIX. Think of this as the MATRIX in the Middle which contain both Light and 
Dark Souls.  We started to dismantle The Dark Soul MATRIX yesterday 7.27.11.  
These MATRIXES are both overlapping and "cross linked."  This cross linking 
also refers to Dark Force Souls who are looped back into the Dark Force Soul 
MATRIX through other dark force souls.  However the connections are made, the 
Cross Linked MATRIX is the third Master MATRIX System which traps souls here on 
Earth as well as throughout creation. 

The Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command along with the Collective Christ is 
dismantling and removing both the Dark Force Soul MATRIX and the Cross Linked 
MATRIX starting on a planetary level here on Earth and then working our way up 
through all levels of Creation.  Although this work is being done 
instantaneously outside Time and Space, it will take approximately seven days 
from today, 7.28.11 for the completion of this process to be felt on the Earth. 
 We have also set up continuous waves of Creation Flame over the next ten days 
to transmute and requalify the negative energy being released and the remnants 
and residues of this process.  Know that the process is being done during this 
period of time as you know it and expect more relief to be felt in your energy 
fields as you are all disconnected from these "Master MATRIXES." 
As we have said before although the planetary systems will soon be gone, you 
are each individually responsible for clearing out your personal programming 
which will still take many Earth years to complete.  For those of you who are 
able to contact Commander Alexandriah Stahr to assist you with your personal 
clearing work, we will continue to do what is needed on the Planetary and 
Cosmic levels to make it easier for you to free yourself on personal levels.   
Your continued personal effort is still required and Commander Alexandriah 
Stahr has all of our MATRIX Clearing Technology at her disposal to assist those 
who contact her.

The Planetary through the Cosmic release of the Duality System called the 
MATRIX and the restructuring of the energetic infa-structure of the 13.13.13 
Solar New Earth Reality and beyond is our one and only concern at this time.  
Your responsibility is to clear your consciousness of MATRIX Programming, 
realign with the Christ Vibration and rebuild your reality in the 13.13.13 
Solar New Earth Reality.
Although we have also dismantled the MATRIX that contained the Andromedan High 
Command falsely posing as myself and the Ashtar Command, it will take some time 
before these false channels who are connected to the "false Ashtar Command 
MATRIX"  to realize their unChristed source has dried up.  It will seem as if 
we are withdrawing as these channels have less and less to say but know that we 
will be increasing our communication through Alexandriah Stahr to keep you 
updated on our true work.  Know that we are always here in spirit guiding, 
directing and protecting mankind during this time of passage through the 2012 
Portal, the Planetary Ascension and beyond to the 13.13.13 Solar New Earth 
Reality.

End Transmission

I AM Ashtar Commander of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command





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[proletar] 7.27.11 Ashtar: Dismantling the Dark Soul MATRIX

Matrix yang menjerat jiwa2 orang yang benar sudah dihancurkan. 

Tinggal Matrix yang menjerat orang2 jahat. Itu sebabnya sekarang ini terjadi 
banyak kebiadaban di dunia matrix-jahat ini, seperti dalam ISLAM di Iraq dan 
teroris, sebab mereka tahu inilah saat terakhir mereka.  


7.27.11 Ashtar: Dismantling the Dark Soul MATRIX
by admin

The following is a transmission channeled through Commander Alexandriah Stahr 
from Commander Ashtar of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command on July 27, 
2011 regarding the Dismantling the Dark Force Soul MATRIX the MATRIX that 
controls Dark Force Souls

Ashtar: Dismantling the Dark Force Soul MATRIX for Dark Force Souls

Greetings I am Ashtar of the Solar Star Command, formerly known as the Ashtar 
Command here to bring you updated messages about the dismantling of the Dark 
Force Soul MATRIX. Early in 2008 the MATRIX controlling Christed Souls was 
dismantled on a planetary basis, later it was extended through all levels of 
Creation as reported on 6.6.11. This Master MATRIX, which controlled Christed 
Souls, was dismantled and all souls within it were disconnected. This led to 
accelerated clearing potential for all Christed Souls. That process is 
continuing on personal levels and it enabled all Christed Souls to re-align 
with Christed Vibrational Levels here on Earth in preparation for the Planetary 
Ascension.

The time has come to dismantle the Dark Force Soul MATRIX which controls all 
Dark Force Souls. Dark Force Souls have different energetic fields than 
Christed Souls and lend themselves more readily to being manipulated for dark 
purposes. This in turn is why there is a separate and distinct MATRIX for Dark 
Force Souls which then has its own myriad of MATRIXES and MATRIX Systems within 
it. This is one of the reasons why there has been such an increasingly 
noticeable separation of souls who serve the Light and those who serve 
themselves. It is also why there has been such agitation and increasing 
violence with the dark force souls on the planet as they know they are in their 
last days of control and exploitation of the Earth and all of humanity. It is 
their turn to be disconnected from the Master Dark Force Soul MATRIX which will 
enable them to make their choice to either return to alignment with God's Will 
on the other side of the 2012 Portal or if they will be sent back to Original 
Creator Source for complete soul recycling.

Today, July 27, 2011 is the day of this major dismantling of this Master Dark 
Force Soul MATRIX which controls and manipulates the Dark Souls incarnate on 
the Earth. The dismantling of these MATRIXES will include the MATRIXES all the 
way up from Planetary through the Cosmic Level to include all of Creation. It 
is possible to do this work all at once because of the work that went before. 
The process will continue for seven of your Earth days as we do the work 
outside of Time and Space. This is a major shift as Dark Force Souls will no 
longer have access to their Dark Force MATRIX, which is the source of their 
powerstolen energy from Light Souls. Although this is a major step, they will 
still operate from their personal MATRIX programming until that too is cleared. 
This they will have to take personal responsibility for just as every soul on 
this planet is responsible for transmuting and requalifying all energy that has 
been released to them and through them. The result will be less resistance to 
the Light as yet another stage of the Planetary Ascension is complete.

What does this mean to you in your everyday lives? It will mean a major wave of 
clearing that all will experience. There will be a general sense of relief and 
relaxation as an unseen hand of oppression is lifted and will activate a wave 
of happiness and joy unrelated to any particular event in your life. Why do you 
ask, has it taken so long to release this step? All is in Divine Right Timing 
and allows for life on your planet to proceed without a complete disruption to 
your way of life. It is and has been done in steps and waves and will continue 
this way until all are free in the year 2045.

The upcoming shift through the 2012 Portal is your next important step as we 
have been saying for the last 20 years as it is the end of the old Dark Force 
MATRIX controlled reality and the beginning of Freedom in the Christ Vibration 
to return to your Earth as your planet and the souls on it re-align with the 
Christ Vibration in a Planetary Ascension.

Those who choose to continue to oppose the Christ Vibration and God's Divine 
Plan for the Earth will continue to be removed from power and eventually die 
off, their souls being extinguished and recycled in the Creation Flames of 
Mother/Father Creator Source. Only those of the Christ Vibration will be 
allowed to reincarnate here on the Earth and through this purging of souls 
within humanity will humanity be able to rebuild the Earth and your societies 
in alignment with the Christ Vibration and th

[proletar] Re: Contoh INFO dari ALIEN tentang MATRIX

> This dismantling of the old
> MATRIX System, which stole energy from the masses to support the 
> few and the
> re-structuring of the Christ Vibration "All of Creation Grid 
> System" was a
> necessary part of the Planetary Ascension.

Info ini mengatakan bahwa sistem matrix bikinan Iblis mencuri energi dari massa 
(orang banyak). 

Salah satu yang paling jelas adalah IDUL ADHA, hari pembantaian sedunia, 
sebulan lagi, hari memberi makan energi berupa nyawa binatang untuk "oknum alam 
gaib" bernama ALLAH agar ia masih bertahan hidup sebab ia perlu energi untuk 
melanjutkan hidup setelah diputus dari energi kosmos. 


Siapkah kalian ???  


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Informasi ini dari alien, dengan nama Ashtar Command. Ini adalah armada alien 
> yang akan menguasai Bumi kembali dan mengembalikannya pada pemerintahan Isa 
> atau Jesus seperti dulu. Entah benar atau tidak, tetapi hal ini sejajar 
> dengan penelitianku mengenai alien, agama dan ideologi. 
> 
> Info ini mengatakan bahwa mereka sedang mengatur dan memprogram ulang 
> struktur realitas lagi. 
> 
> Selama ini alien2 Jahat dari kelompok Lucifer membuat sistem atau realitas 
> yang disebut MATRIX. Dengan sistem realitas Matrix itu mereka memerangkap dan 
> memenjarakan manusia bumi dalam SEBUAH SISTEM TERTUTUP YANG MENGUASAI HIDUP 
> MANUSIA SEPENUHNYA. Manusia tidak tahu ia sedang berada dalam sebuah sistem 
> khayal yang fiktif. Sebuah game yang begitu sempurna sehingga pemain di 
> dalamnya tidak bisa keluar dari situ dengan aman dan menganggap ia dalam 
> sebuah realitas. Sebuah "realitas" yang maya dan semu. Contohnya adalah 
> sistem komunis dan islam syariah. Sistem ini adalah sistem matrix, yang 
> membrainwashing menusia, mengatur semua dalam sebuah sistem tertutup, membuat 
> imajinasi syurga dan Allah yang fiktif, menghalalkan semua cara dan moral, 
> menghancurkan semua yang menentang, memberangus semua inovasi dan kebebasan 
> pendapat membuat sistem hukum yang mengatur semua perilaku manusia -- semua 
> yang bisa kita lihat dalam sistem Islam yang ada di Arab saat ini. Sebuah 
> sistem MATRIX berlapis yang mengontrol manusia dalam sebuah sistem tertutup. 
> 
> Informasi berikut mengatakan bahwa dalam 30 tahun MATRIX akan lenyap dari 
> planet ini. Islam hanya akan ada hingga 30 tahun lagi. Demikian pula sistem 
> hirarki tunggal gereja katolik akan diubah menjadi lebih tidak organisasi 
> formal. Berarti benar ramalan Fatima bahwa Paus sekarang akan menjadi paus 
> terakhir. Akan diganti dengan Christ Consciousness, yang sebenarnya sama 
> dengan ROh Kebenaran atau Rohulqudus yang memperkuat Nabi Isa. Artinya sama 
> dengan Spiritualitas untuk mengganti sistem agama formal seperti Islam dan 
> Katolik.  
> 
> Proses ini sudah terjadi di dimensi gaib. Grid system untuk alam semesta 
> sudah selesai diganti. Sebentar lagi mungkin kita akan menerima info dari 
> alam semesta dengan mudah. Tidak dirintangi oleh matrix system tertutup 
> buatan Iblis.  
> 
> Sekali lagi, aku tidak memastikan info ini 100% valid, tetapi sejajar paralel 
> dengan pengetahuan mengenai agama, ideologi, dan dunia yang kuketahui.  
> 
> 
> 
> 10.27.11 Ashtar: All of Creation Grid System Complete
> from Blog.Ashtar Command.org: "Ongoing Updates on the Planetary ... by admin
> 
> The following transmission channeled through Commander Alexandriah 
> Stahr from Commander Ashtar of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command giving 
> a Planetary Ascension Update. The "All of Creation Grid System" is Complete 
> and re-connection has begun.
> 
> Greetings I am Ashtar of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command come here 
> today to give an update on the restructuring of your reality in what we are 
> now referring to as the 3 levels of reality, "Personal," "Planetary" and "All 
> of Creation."
> 
> I come here today to announce the completion of the "All of Creation Grid 
> System" on all levels of reality. Humanity and "All of Creation" may now 
> re-connect with the Christed Source of "All that is" once again. This 
> re-connection will be according to your alignment and your level of Freedom 
> From the MATRIX.
> 
> How will this affect you? The highest levels of reality have been 
> re-structured on the Christ Vibration and is now available to re-connect 
> with. The re-connection is being made for all reality and will be influencing 
> all of humanity to the new level of Christ Consciousness. However, just as 
> before, whatever blocks you have in the way of fully connecting with that 
> level will limit your experiencing the full benefit until that block is 
> removed. What this also means i

[proletar] Contoh INFO dari ALIEN tentang MATRIX

Informasi ini dari alien, dengan nama Ashtar Command. Ini adalah armada alien 
yang akan menguasai Bumi kembali dan mengembalikannya pada pemerintahan Isa 
atau Jesus seperti dulu. Entah benar atau tidak, tetapi hal ini sejajar dengan 
penelitianku mengenai alien, agama dan ideologi. 

Info ini mengatakan bahwa mereka sedang mengatur dan memprogram ulang struktur 
realitas lagi. 

Selama ini alien2 Jahat dari kelompok Lucifer membuat sistem atau realitas yang 
disebut MATRIX. Dengan sistem realitas Matrix itu mereka memerangkap dan 
memenjarakan manusia bumi dalam SEBUAH SISTEM TERTUTUP YANG MENGUASAI HIDUP 
MANUSIA SEPENUHNYA. Manusia tidak tahu ia sedang berada dalam sebuah sistem 
khayal yang fiktif. Sebuah game yang begitu sempurna sehingga pemain di 
dalamnya tidak bisa keluar dari situ dengan aman dan menganggap ia dalam sebuah 
realitas. Sebuah "realitas" yang maya dan semu. Contohnya adalah sistem komunis 
dan islam syariah. Sistem ini adalah sistem matrix, yang membrainwashing 
menusia, mengatur semua dalam sebuah sistem tertutup, membuat imajinasi syurga 
dan Allah yang fiktif, menghalalkan semua cara dan moral, menghancurkan semua 
yang menentang, memberangus semua inovasi dan kebebasan pendapat membuat sistem 
hukum yang mengatur semua perilaku manusia -- semua yang bisa kita lihat dalam 
sistem Islam yang ada di Arab saat ini. Sebuah sistem MATRIX berlapis yang 
mengontrol manusia dalam sebuah sistem tertutup. 

Informasi berikut mengatakan bahwa dalam 30 tahun MATRIX akan lenyap dari 
planet ini. Islam hanya akan ada hingga 30 tahun lagi. Demikian pula sistem 
hirarki tunggal gereja katolik akan diubah menjadi lebih tidak organisasi 
formal. Berarti benar ramalan Fatima bahwa Paus sekarang akan menjadi paus 
terakhir. Akan diganti dengan Christ Consciousness, yang sebenarnya sama dengan 
ROh Kebenaran atau Rohulqudus yang memperkuat Nabi Isa. Artinya sama dengan 
Spiritualitas untuk mengganti sistem agama formal seperti Islam dan Katolik.  

Proses ini sudah terjadi di dimensi gaib. Grid system untuk alam semesta sudah 
selesai diganti. Sebentar lagi mungkin kita akan menerima info dari alam 
semesta dengan mudah. Tidak dirintangi oleh matrix system tertutup buatan 
Iblis.  

Sekali lagi, aku tidak memastikan info ini 100% valid, tetapi sejajar paralel 
dengan pengetahuan mengenai agama, ideologi, dan dunia yang kuketahui.  



10.27.11 Ashtar: All of Creation Grid System Complete
from Blog.Ashtar Command.org: "Ongoing Updates on the Planetary ... by admin

The following transmission channeled through Commander Alexandriah 
Stahr from Commander Ashtar of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command giving a 
Planetary Ascension Update. The "All of Creation Grid System" is Complete and 
re-connection has begun.

Greetings I am Ashtar of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command come here 
today to give an update on the restructuring of your reality in what we are now 
referring to as the 3 levels of reality, "Personal," "Planetary" and "All of 
Creation."

I come here today to announce the completion of the "All of Creation Grid 
System" on all levels of reality. Humanity and "All of Creation" may now 
re-connect with the Christed Source of "All that is" once again. This 
re-connection will be according to your alignment and your level of Freedom 
From the MATRIX.

How will this affect you? The highest levels of reality have been re-structured 
on the Christ Vibration and is now available to re-connect with. The 
re-connection is being made for all reality and will be influencing all of 
humanity to the new level of Christ Consciousness. However, just as before, 
whatever blocks you have in the way of fully connecting with that level will 
limit your experiencing the full benefit until that block is removed. What this 
also means is that as humanity's spiritual awakening is accelerated, the 
"Positive and Beneficial" influence of the Christ Consciousness becomes more 
available while simultaneously the MATRIX influence will weaken.

As we have said before it will be another 30 years before all of humanity is 
completely FREE from the MATRIX Programming. Those who are on the accelerated 
ascension path, need to continue your personal work on yourselves to clear away 
your old programming and develop your access to the new Christ Vibration 
energies. As you do, increased amounts of Christ Vibration energies will be 
available to you.

Our technology for doing this is available through our daughter, Commander 
August  Alexandriah Stahr who as the Quadrant Commander of the Healing 
Division of the Ashtar Command  Solar Star Command has access to all of our 
healing technologies for the Planetary Ascension. What that means is that she 
was sent by us as a walk-in in 1984 specifically to bring the "Freedom From the 
MATRIX Technologies" to the earth to assist Lightworkers on the Ascension Path 
to clear their way to these higher realities and make the Karma Clearing  
MATRIX Clearing Process easier for

[proletar] Re: Berlusconi Bercinta dengan 8 Wanita dalam Semalam

2011-10-25 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Bukhari 1: 268, 270 Nabi bercinta dengan semua istrinya dalam semalam  (282) 
[B/7/6] diperkuat lagi dalam Bukhari 7: 142 
Inspirasinya adalah kisah Nabi Sulaiman. Muslim 3: 4066 - 70 mengenai Sulaiman 
bercinta dengan 60 - 70 perempuan dalam semalam 

hebat euy 


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
>
> Tapi yg pasti gak ada ngalahin kedahsyatan surat 23 kitab elo ya tem?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: item abu 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:16:39 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Berlusconi Bercinta dengan 8 Wanita dalam Semalam
> 
> Hehehe... masih kalah dgn nabi keparat lu yg ngembat bininya yg berjumlah 
> 9/11.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >From: ajeg 
> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:28 AM
> >Subject: [proletar] Berlusconi Bercinta dengan 8 Wanita dalam Semalam
> >
> >
> >Â  
> >
> >Berlusconi Bercinta dengan 8 Wanita dalam Semalam
> >
> >ROMA, KOMPAS.com - Berita tentang Perdana Menteri Italia Silvio 
> >Berlusconi tidak pernah jauh dari petualangannya dengan wanita. Kali 
> >ini, tentang keperkasaannya di ranjang.
> >
> >Dalam sebuah pembicaraan telepon dengan pengusaha Giampaolo 
> >Tartantini, Berlusconi mengaku tidur dengan delapan perempuan dalam 
> >semalam. Tarantini diduga yang menyediakan perempuan untuk Berlusconi.
> >
> >"Kemarin malam ada antrean di luar pintuku," kata Berlusconi dalam 
> >pembicaraan telepon yang disadap itu.
> >
> >"Ada 11 orang (perempuan). Saya hanya menggunakan delapan karena 
> >sudah tidak sanggup. Kita tidak bisa menggunakan semuanya," lanjutnya.
> >
> >Pembicaraan telepon itu dilakukan pada Tahun Baru 2009. Di dalamnya, 
> >Berlusconi mengatakan, "Saya bahagia hari ini... hal yang seharusnya 
> >dirasakan pada malam Tahun Baru."
> >
> >Orang Italia percaya, jika seseorang bercinta pada malam tahun baru, 
> >dia akan bercinta sepanjang tahun.
> >
> >Pembicaraan itu merupakan salah satu dari 100.000 pembicaraan telepon 
> >yang disadap dalam penyelidikan terhadap delapan orang yang diduga 
> >menyediakan wanita penghibur pada pesta-pesta yang digelar Berlusconi.
> >
> >Dalam pembicaraan telepon itu, Berlusconi yang tinggi badannya cuma 
> >1,65 cm sempat bilang pada Tarantini untuk "tidak membawakan dia 
> >perempuan tinggi, karena kita tidak tinggi."
> >
> >Terungkap juga pernyataan Berlusconi soal 40 perempuan yang tinggal 
> >di rumahnya dan mereka tidak mau pergi.
> >
> >Penyelidikan yang itu dilakukan di Bari, tempat tinggal Tarantini, 
> >itu menyangkut delapan orang. Termasuk Tarantini, saudara lelakinya, 
> >dan seorang perempuan yang dijuluki Queen Bee oleh media Italia. 
> >
> >Sumber: dailymail.co.uk 
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[proletar] AMERIKA is DOWN Re: Sebenar2nya, Pemilik Dunia Adalah Amerika, Bukan Allah !!!

2011-10-25 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Iya. Dulu. Sekarang Amerika sedang goyang, digencet oleh China India Russia dan 
Asia. 

Sistem Wallstreet didemo terus tiap hari dgn gerakan Occupy cities. Sistem ini 
begitu tidak amannya, aku sudah dengar BANYAK teman2ku orang Amerika asli marah 
karena mereka banyak sekali yang kehilangan investasi besar hari tua mereka di 
pasar saham. Aku punya saudara di sana bilang hidup semakin sulit dan kalau ada 
kesempatan ia mau pulang saja ke Indonesia, itu padahal ia punya pekerjaan 
tetap suami istri dan dua mobil dan rumah senilai 500 ribu US.  

Sekarang ini, susah betul menjual produk pendidikan Amerika karena ada saingan 
dari Asia, China dan Australia.  

Defisit anggaran sudah terlalu besar. Hutang terlalu banyak. Ada profesor 
ekonomi Amerika datang kemari awal bulan ini menseminarkan bahwa pengeluaran 
Amerika mayoritas di biaya transfer. Artinya ekonomi Amerika adalah ekonomi 
tidak produktif, hanya untuk bayar hutang, bayar gaji, bayar asuransi jaminan 
kesehatan dan sebagainya. Amerika tidak punya uang untuk membiayai perang lagi. 
Beberapa capres pemilu Amerika sudah mengkampanyekan untuk menghentikan bantuan 
luar negeri. Tentara di luar negeri akan distop. 

Amerika is DOWN. Dia sudah terlempar dari tahtanya. Dulu memang ia menguasai 
dunia. Sekarang sedang goyah. Apakah akan kembali jadi kuat lagi?? Tidak. 
Amerika kuat kalau dia bisa mengaduk aduk dan memecah belah. Dunia sekarang 
trend menuju perdamaian. Diktator2 berjatuhan. Rakyat senang dengan kemajuan 
ekonomi, teknologi dan olahraga global. Spiritualitas dan perbaikan hidup 
meningkat. Tidak butuh ideologi politik untuk diadu perang. 

Tidak butuh Amerika. 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "muskitawati"  wrote:
>
> Sebenar2nya, Pemilik Dunia Adalah Amerika, Bukan Allah !!!
>   
> Pemilik tunggal dunia ini sesungguhnya hanya Amerika, kalo kemudian dibentuk 
> koalisi dengan Inggris, Perancis, Russia dan terakhir ditambah Cina dan juga 
> India, maka kesemuanya itu hanyalah tata cara management dan administrasi 
> Amerika dalam mengatur dunia yang menjadi miliknya sehingga kita bisa 
> merasakan se-olah2 menjadi milik bersama.  Dalam hal ini memang kita dan 
> seluruh negara2 didunia diberi saham yang disesuaikan dengan masing2 
> keterlibatan dalam usaha Amerika mentata dunia kita ini.
> 
> Indonesia itu bukanlah sebuah bangsa dan juga bukan suatu negara, karena 
> memang hanya rekayasa Amerika dan aliansinya yang sengaja meng-kapling2kan 
> dunia ini dalam kotak2 yang dinamakannya negara sebagai cara pengaturan dalam 
> mengambil alih semua wilayah didunia dari pemiliknya kerajaan2 di Eropah.
> 
> Indonesia hanyalah satu contoh kecil saja, tadinya wilayah Indonesia ini 
> milik Kerajaan Belanda yang wilayahnya dikenal dengan nama 
> Nederlandsche-Indie.  Jadi secara ketata negaraan, Indonesia bukanlah wilayah 
> jajahan melainkan termasuk bagian dari kerajaan Belanda.
> 
> Bisa dibuktikan, dalam sejarah manapun belum pernah ada negara Indonesia, 
> belum pernah ada kerajaan Indonesia, dan belum pernah ada wilayah yang 
> namanya Indonesia.
> 
> Beda sekali ya, Malaka, Malaya, Malay, sudah jelas sejarahnya memang pernah 
> ada nama2 itu, tapi kalo nama Indonesia, betul2 belum pernah ada.
> 
> Perang dunia kedua berakhir, siapa yang jadi pemenangnya   anda semua 
> harus tahu sejak dari zaman kapan pun ada perang, dan pemenang perang adalah 
> penentu apapun yang harus dipatuhi yang kalah !!!
> 
> Demikianlah, Amerika adalah satu2nya negara yang bukan kerajaan, tidak ada 
> negara didunia ini selain Amerika, selebihnya hanyalah KERAJAAN2 saja yang 
> BUKAN NEGARA.  Kerajaan itu sebenarnya sama sekali bukan negara juga bukan 
> system kenegaraan melainkan sebuah property milik tuan2 tanah !!!  Pemilik 
> tanah yang berkuasa itulah disebut raja yang menarik pajak dari siapapun yang 
> menempati tanahnya.  Jadi Raja itu hanya mensejahterakan dan memperkaya diri 
> sendiri bukan memperkaya rakyatnya atau juga bukan mensejahterakan rakyatnya.
> 
> Semua kerajaan2 didunia hancur lebur akibat digempur Jerman, Italia, dan 
> Jepang.  Setelah mendekati kehancuran total semua kerajaan2 didunia, barulah 
> Amerika turun dalam kancah peperangan dan menaklukan Jerman, Italia dan 
> Jepang sehingga seluruh dunia secara administrasi managementnya sudah masuk 
> milik Amerika.  Namun karena Amerika tidak memiliki personel untuk menangani 
> dunia yang mendadak jatuh ketangan atau kedalam kekuasaannya, maka 
> dibentuklah koalisi negara2 dimana Amerikalah sebagai pemimpinnya dengan 
> koalisi utamanya Inggris dan Perancis.
> 
> Inggris dan Perancis yang sebelum perang dunia adalah kerajaan, oleh Amerika 
> ditransformasi dimana Perancis menjadi Republik, sedangkan Inggris hanya 
> formalitasnya saja sebagai kerajaan namun seluruh managementnya diambil alih 
> oleh Amerika yang menunjuk pejabat2 barunya sehingga kekuasaan raja hanyalah 
> simbolisme.
> 
> Kemudian untuk menangani bagian2 dunia ini, maka Amerika m

[proletar] AMERIKA MAU PAPUA MERDEKA Re: Dunia Mendukung Kemerdekaan Rakyat Papua Barat

2011-10-22 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Supaya bisa menguasai bebas Freeport dan seluruh kekayaan alam Papua 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "muskitawati"  wrote:
>
> Dunia Mendukung Kemerdekaan Rakyat Papua Barat Bukan Otonomi 
>
> Bersedia mengakui kemerdekaan Palestina harusnya juga bersedia mengakui hak 
> kemerdekaan Rakyat Papua.
> 
> Bukankah Kemerdekaan adalah Hak Setiap Bangsa ?
> 
> http://westpapuamedia.info/
> 
> Palestina itu ditolak berdirinya dikarenakan bertujuan menghancurkan negara2 
> tetangganya terutama Israel.
> 
> Papua Barat harus berdiri merdeka karena budaya dan agama mereka dihancurkan 
> dengan memaksakan agama baru Islam yang ditolak dipercaya rakyatnya.
> 
> Papua Barat lebih berhak Merdeka daripada Palestina, karena Palestina itu 
> diduduki Arab yang bukan ethnis Palestina.  Papua Barat adalah aseli ethnis 
> Papua yang mengalami pembantaian oleh penjajah dari Indonesia.
> 
> Papua Barat tidak mengganggu negara2 tetangganya, kenapa ditolak ???  Lebih 
> parah lagi Papua Barat dianiaya dengan Islamisasi, ini merupakan pelanggaran 
> HAM yang berat.
> 
> http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/44585
> 
> http://freewestpapua.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/profile-of-benny-wenda-west-papua-independence-leader/
> 
> http://www.independent.com/news/2011/apr/12/west-papua-still-struggles-independence/
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6--OsIkeV8
> 
> Selamat dan Dirgahayu "West Papua Republic Independence", we all people in 
> the world with your peace.
> 
> Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati.
>






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[proletar] SKENARIO KOSMIK dan PLANET BUMI

2011-10-21 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Apa yang sebenarnya terjadi di planet ini?? berikut adalah hasil2 kesimpulan 
pengamatanku dari banyak sumber agama, non agama, UFo, buku2 ttg UFO, pesan2 
dari sumber dimensi lain, dan dunia paranormal mengenai apa yang sebenarnya 
terjadi dalam kosmos dan planet kita ini. Kesimpulan ini masih sementara dan 
bukti2 menyusul karena ini bisa jadi buku sendiri. 

1. Kosmos ini ada pemerintahannya. Pemerintah ini baik. Pemerintahan ini 
memulai kehidupan di planet2 kosong dan memelihara kehidupan di dalamnya untuk 
tujuan tertentu yang aku tidak tahu persis, diantaranya menghasilkan kelas 
manusia yang cerdas. Ada mungkin milyaran planet yang mirip planet kita, 
ditanami kehidupan dan dipelihara.  

2. Suatu saat entah kapan dimasa lalu, seorang pejabat dalam pemerintahan ini 
mbalelo atau memberontak. ada yang menyebutnya Lucifer atau setan atau iblis 
atau apapun, seorang oknum tinggi, malaikat atau apapun yang berderajat tinggi. 
Intinya ia hendak mendirikan wilayahnya sendiri, merdeka sebebasnya tidak mau 
diatur dari atas. 

3. Bumi, entah bagaimana, ikut dalam pemberontakan ini. Lalu bumi memisahkan 
diri, menjadi tertutup, dan terputus dari network pemerintahan kosmos. 
 
4. Terjadilah pertarungan memperebutkan bumi. Dua pihak itu memakai dua metode 
berbeda. Pihak pertama (Baik) menggunakan metode etis, kebaikan, spiritual, 
sambii tetap mengacu dan tunduahat k pada pemerintahan kosmik. Pihak kedua 
(Jahat) mengacu pada kebebasan, melakukan segala cara demi mencapai tujuan, 
kekerasan, aniaya, teror, penipuan, konspirasi, diktatoriat, hukuman, tidak 
peduli itu baik atau jahat yang penting tujuan tercapai.  

5. Dua pihak sama2 mengirim utusan2 dan menetapkan agen2 perwakilan untuk 
menguasai manusia bumi.  
Pihak Satu punya teknologi lebih superior, tetapi pihak Dua  punya basis massa 
planet, alien dan manusia yang sukarela bergabung dalam kelompoknya, jadi Pihak 
Baik tidak bisa semaunya menghabisi kelompok Jahat, agar tidak menghabisi 
manusia yang tidak salah. 

6. Metodenya Pihak DUA ini selalu sama, yaitu menghalalkan segala cara demi 
tujuan. Inilah metodenya:
- Obyektif sasaran utama adalah kesenangan dan keberhasilan tanpa batas. Siapa 
manusia tidak suka?? Pengikut Pihak Dua ini mereka yang mau kekuasaan dan 
kekayaan, kesenangan dan kenikmatan. Banyak manusia mau ini apapun harganya. 
Hidup ini sulit dan sering manusia mau jalan pintas. 
- Pihak Dua memakai ideologi atau agama sebagai payung dan dasar gerakan yang 
mereka lakukan dan propagandakan. 
- Pihak Dua memakai sistem tertutup untuk mengorganisir pengikutnya. Masuk 
dengan uoacara dan janji khusus. Di dalam diindoktrinasi dan dicuci otaknya. 
Siapa keluar diancam hukuman berat bahkan mati.
- Dibuat sistem hukum atau diktatoriat sebagai metode kontrol. Dalam sistem ini 
maka para penguasa bisa pesta pora (misalnya dalam Komunis, Nazi dan diktator 
macam Kadhafi mereka dianggap dewa dan bisa apa saja, termasuk dalam Islam para 
penguasa itu sering poligami dan mendapat kesenangan dan kekuasaan mutlak. 
Pengikut Islam ditipu dengan cerita bohong tentang syurga. Cuci otak 
dilaksanakan dengan propaganda bohong yang diprogramkan dalam otak manusia 
melalui tatacara dan hafalan diulang-ulang-ulang-ulang setiap hari sehingga 
bohong pun tidak tahu dan bohong pun dibela sampai mati.   
- Sebagian yang lain memakai mujijat atau teknologi alien agar manusia kagum 
dan menyembah. Dorongan menyembah sesuatu itu innate, melekat dalam jiwa 
manusia, dan oleh Pihak Dua diarahkan untuk hal yang lain selain Tuhan dari 
Pihak Satu. 
- Darimana sumber energi mereka?? Pihak Satu punya jaringan sumberdaya energi 
kosmik. Pihak Dua membuat sendiri jaringan mereka, dan aku menduga bahwa bumi 
adalah lahan panen mereka. Pengurbanan hewan dalam islam dan yahudi adalah 
contoh. Pembunuhan manusia adalah sumber lain, nyawa atau energi hidup orang 
dirampas dan dimakan oleh alien kelompok Dua.  Pertarungan sumber energi ini 
menarik, sebab ini dilakukan melalui tipudaya yang rapi.  

7. Pihak Satu dan Dua punya basis massa planet masing-masing. Mereka punya 
teknologi travel antar bintang. Itulah UFO yang makin sering kita dengar 
beritanya sekarang.   

8. Isa atau Jesus adalah utusan dari Pihak Satu. Sebab itulah oleh sistem hukum 
dan personil Pihak Dua (lihat di atas) Isa dilenyapkan dengan cara klasik pihak 
Dua yaitu dibunuh. Jesus setelah mati masih hidup, dilihat oleh banyak 
pengikutnya. 

9. Muhammad tadinya adalah utusan dari Pihak Satu di Mekkah secara konsisten, 
dan penelitian para ahli membuktikan bahwa Islam itu aslinya adalah Kristen 
aliran monotheis. Tetapi entah bagaimana, mungkin karena ditolak bangsa Yahudi 
dan kaum Nasrani, karena ajarannya monotheistik tidak cocok dengan ajaran 
trinitas, maka Muhammad pindah hijrah masuk Pihak Dua di Madinah lalu 
melaksanakan agenda Pihak Dua secara konsisten. 

10. Cara yang sering dipakai Pihak Dua adalah infiltrasi (membusukkan ajaran 
dan tokoh yang benar), konspirasi (merencanakan agend

[proletar] PARANORMAL - ALIEN - AGAMA itu berkaitan

2011-10-21 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Cerita paranormal sering dibahas dalam situs2 UFO. Kisahnya sering seperti 
teknologi hologram atau kehadiran alien jika dipanggil. Juga sering menakutkan. 
Interaksi dengan Alien macam begini banyak dalam ajaran agama. Jadi, kalau 
misalnya aku alien yang jahat dan punya niat di bumi untuk berkuasa dan 
menguasai manusia, aku akan:
- memakai cara teror dan legenda agar manusia takut kepadaku. Aku akan 
memposisikan diri sebagai tuhan yang pemurka dan pengazab, pemegang nasib dan 
takdir manusia, dengan cara menakuti. 
- lebih lanjut aku akan memakai manusia2 yang kuberi kekuasaan politik dan 
ekonomi untuk menindas sesamanya dalam sesbuah sistem ideologi tertutup seperti 
komunis dan syariah Islam dan taurat Yahudi. 
- memakai teknologi dan penampakan dan dan tanda2 ajaib yg sekedar mengherankan 
untuk membuat manusia takjub dan menyembahku.  
  
Berikut adalah contoh legenda tentang Bloody Mary. Ini legenda, tetapi cerita 
di kitab2 suci itu banyak yang hanya legenda juga, sama saja. Kalaupun benar 
terjadi sering isi kitab suci itu dibumbui dan direkayasa oleh pengikutnya. 
Contoh. Ada cerita aneh2 seperti burung yang melempari pasukan gajah di Quran, 
yang itu hanya dongeng karena seekor gajah makan 50 kg daun tiap hari dan 
dimana ada daun di padang pasir Mekkah?? Seandainyapun itu pernah ada seperti 
itu, maka yang melemparinya tentu sejenis pesawat alien.

Intinya, di dunia ini BANYAK PENIPUAN DAN DONGENG. Agama, alien dan paranormal 
itu berkaitan erat. Membahas salah satunya, pastikan membahas yang lain karena 
ada kaitannya. Dalam agama itu MUJIJAT, dalam alien itu TEKNOLOGI, dalam 
paranormal itu METODE.  
  

http://ufofreeparanormal.com/node/16

Bloody Mary
Following are reader comments about Bloody Mary. This page is a subpage of the 
Urban Legends portion of the Ghosts and Hauntings FAQ.

Bloody Mary (1)

From: Alejandro Gonzalez (agonz...@encina.pntic.mec.es)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Bloody Mary, Veronica and the Scarlet Woman
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 01:55:03 +0100

When I first saw the movie _Candyman_ I was struck by the urban legend who was 
the leit-motif of the plot: if you say "Candyman" three times in front of a 
mirror, then Candyman will come and get you. The protagonist, a young lady 
who's doing her D.Th. on urban legends, goes too far in her investigation and 
ends on the other side of the liminal surface as Candyman's bride.

Surfing some time later some newsgroups on Usenet, I discovered the script was 
based on a short story by Clive Baker (the one who did _Hellraiser_); but his 
story was, in turn, a development of an older urban folk legend, concerning 
Mary Worth or Bloody Mary.

I became interested then in that urban legend, and read a lot of personal 
testimonies of people who did the test (or who faked; who can tell?) in their 
teen years. Trying to stablish which the main trait swere of the multiformous 
thread (the name of the phantom varied from one version to another, including 
variants as Lady Donkey or Mary Willarth), I isolated several elements which I 
found meaningful:
# The people who tried to cross the border (the mirror) were always teenagers, 
so people who were really crossing a critical boundary in their lives.
# The purpose for doing the test was, at best, blurred. Some extremely 
interesting versions said that Bloody Mary was the Virgin Mary, and so the 
experience could be termed as mystical; other said she was the daughter of the 
devil. Others, still, stated that the experience could end in extreme bliss or 
in gory death, though the way to choose one or another ending wasn't clear. 
Anyway, most of the testimonies gave no reason at all to do the test, but 
showing one's courage.
# There was a tendence that people trying were female, more than male, 
teenagers.

So, a Freudian reading of the story could perhaps suggest that Bloody Mary and 
unexpected occurrence of menstruation to small ladies were close enough to 
stablish a firm link (though I have not read this interpretation, it struck me 
as obvious at one level). Elaborating this, one could say that Bloody Mary is 
some kind of innocent character who represents girls' innocence lost forever 
after menstrual blood appears: the inmaculate white of Virgin Mary is stained 
by the unavoidable agreement with daemonic forces that menstruation implies.

The theme is not exhausted by that level of interpretation, though. The idea of 
potencial bliss associated to the scary experience may be seen as a archetypal 
form of initiation, rites de passage: in fact, in a society without stablished 
initiatory rites, the Bloody Mary story may be seen as a psychical ersatz of 
that need. By the traumatic experience of shedding blood, the girl access to a 
world of bliss and pleasure: sexual natural high. This is the same as death, as 
orgasm is a petit mort, and sex is always a bloody/chthonic drive.

In that way, Bloody Mary would be near to what Spanish culture names 'la Virgen 
Puta'

[proletar] NGUNDUH WOHING PAKARTI - HUKUM KARMA

2011-10-20 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Gadhafi hidup, berkuasa dan meninggal semua dalam kekerasan. Orang memanen apa 
yang ia tanam. 

Isa mengatakan siapa memakai pedang akan habis oleh pedang. 
Siapa pakai bom akan habis oleh bom. 

Muhammad melakukan berbagai kekerasan, dan simbolnya Islam adalah pedang 
seperti di bendera Arab Saudi. 

Islam menduduki seuruh timur tengah, mengusir orang nasrani dan yahudi, 
menewaskan dan memperbudak mereka, menduduki negeri2 kristen yang damai: 
Philadephia (sekarang Amman), Jerusalem, Antioch, Damascus, lalu menyerbu 
Alexandria, mengislamkan Mesir, Turki dan mengislamkan dengan sistematis Cyrene 
(sekarang Benghazi Libya) dan Tunisia (dulu adalah Carthage negeri pusat 
kristen. Terus melaju ke Afghanistan dan India Pakistan.  
Di sepanjang jalan Islam menghancurkan banyak peradaban kristen dan buddhis 
serta hindu, termasuk di Indonesia. 
Lalu setelah Andalusia, Islam mau menyerang Eropa. Tetapi Prancis dibawah 
Charles Martel menghentikan mereka. Lalu Spanyol kembali pada katolik.   

Kalian pikir sepak terjang Islam itu tidak berbuah hukum karma??? 

Negara yang menduduki negeri2 Islam dengan kekerasan adalah negeri2 yang 
mayoritas kristen. Siapa yang menjadi tulang punggung NATO menyerang Libya ?? 
lagi-lagi Prancis 

Apakah hukum karma akan terjadi juga di Indonesia?? Pasti. Negeri kita ini 
mungkin akan kembali pada asal usulnya, buddhis dan hindu, atau campuran dengan 
islam dalam bentuk kebatinan dan kejawen. Aku tidak tahu, tapi kristen juga 
sedang berkembang meskipun perlahan. 


Moammar Gadhafi, who lived and died in violence
By Ronald Bruce St John, Special to CNN
October 21, 2011 -- Updated 0105 GMT (0905 HKT)
Moammar Gadhafi salutes his troops at a 1999 parade to mark the 30th 
anniversary of the revolution that brought him to power.

Gadhafi, schooled in tribal values, was an activist from an early age
Gadhafi was first among equals in the group that overthrew the Libyan monarchy
Author says Gadhafi created shadow democracy but held on to all real power
He says Gadhafi destroyed civil society, violated rights, crippled the economy

Editor's note: Ronald Bruce St John served on the International Advisory Board 
of the Journal of Libyan Studies and the Atlantic Council Working Group on 
Libya. He is the author of five books on Libya, including "Libya: Continuity 
and Change" (2011).

(CNN) -- The man who dominated Libya for more than four decades died not far 
from his birthplace.

Moammar Gadhafi was born in the central Libyan desert south of Sirte in spring 
1943. The only surviving son of traditional Bedouin parents, his early 
schooling centered on religious subjects taught by a local tribal teacher. 
Tribal social values, together with the religious principles learned at this 
time, strongly influenced him for the rest of his life.

Around age 10, he enrolled in elementary school in Sirte, where he completed 
six grades in four years. He then enrolled in secondary school in Sebha, where, 
for the first time, he had access to Arab newspapers and radio broadcasts, 
notably the "Voice of the Arabs" news program from Cairo. Shortly after he 
seized power in 1969, a junior American diplomat serving as an interpreter for 
the U.S. ambassador in Tripoli noted that Gadhafi spoke excellent Arabic, like 
a Voice of the Arabs radio announcer.
Photos: Gadhafi through the years Photos: Gadhafi through the years
'The head of the snake has been cut off'
Zakaria: Libya won't descend into chaos

A political activist from the start, Gadhafi was expelled from school in Sebha 
because he was distributing pamphlets and organizing public protests critical 
of the ruling monarchy. He completed his secondary schooling in Misurata, and 
graduated from the Royal Military Academy in 1965.

Convinced that only armed might could force a change in government, he viewed 
military service not as a career, but as an instrument for socioeconomic and 
political change. In the course of his time at the academy, he created the Free 
Unionist Officers Movement and selected its 12-member central committee, 
drawing on contacts made in Sebha and Misurata.

The Free Unionist Officers Movement overthrew the monarchy in a bloodless coup 
d'état on the night of September 1, 1969. Thereafter, the ruling Revolutionary 
Command Council depicted itself as a collegial body, but Gadhafi was always 
first among equals, directing events and dictating policy. The language of 
Gadhafi and the other council members was the language of Arab nationalism, 
guided by the precepts of the Koran and sharia, the traditional code of Islamic 
law, and strengthened by the conviction that only the Revolutionary Command 
Council spoke for the Libyan people.

Over time, the Gadhafi regime created a unique form of direct democracy 
consisting of a nationwide system of congresses and committees designed to give 
the impression the Libyan people were running the government.

In fact, Gadhafi, the remaining Revolutionary Command Council members, the Fr

[proletar] Re: he he he Item Abu akhirnya ngamuk...

2011-10-18 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

lampiaskan dulu marahmu.
lalu lihat kenyataan. 
jadi waras

aku yang berani menyerang tuhan2 amburadul itu saja masih baek2 aja kok. masih 
sadar, masih berusaha menemukan penjelasan logis pada cerita yg kamu anggap 
dongeng. 

ya bible (PL) itu isinya hampir semua dongeng dengan alien. 

kenyataannya begitu. 

aku gak pernah maki2 orang lain gila goblok dst sekalipun mereka digoblokin 
dongeng2 yang disumpalkan dalam mulut mereka

aku tidak sekedar memaki dongeng itu. 

AKU MEMAKI SUMBER DONGENG ITU

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Hehehe... si pemdun ini akhirnya kaing2 ga keruan kayak orang Islam kejepit 
> buntut.Â 
> 
> Ga bisa bantah akan ketololan lu yg mikir bhw alien nyerang gajah yg lagi 
> nyerang Mekah, bukan?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >________
> >From: pemerhatidunia 
> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:13 PM
> >Subject: [proletar] he he he Item Abu akhirnya ngamuk...
> >
> >
> >Â  
> >setelah kubuktikan dari kitabnya bahwa Yahweh itu lebih parah dari nyi roro 
> >kidul dalam soal kurban mengurbankan dan tumbal sajen dan dupa kemenyan. 
> >padahal itu yg dibahas tiap minggu oleh pendetanya... 
> >
> >ngamuk abis dia. semua dikatain goblok  makanya jangan sok pinter lu 
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[proletar] he he he Item Abu akhirnya ngamuk...

2011-10-18 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

setelah kubuktikan dari kitabnya bahwa Yahweh itu lebih parah dari nyi roro 
kidul dalam soal kurban mengurbankan dan tumbal sajen dan dupa kemenyan. 
padahal itu yg dibahas tiap minggu oleh pendetanya... 

ngamuk abis dia. semua dikatain goblok  makanya jangan sok pinter lu 

 





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[proletar] Alien ALLAH Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

aku berhasil membongkar tuhan-tuhan palsu yang membuat semua jadi bego. hmmm 
apa urusanku dengan kamu?? urusanku dengan mereka. Sudah sekian tahun aku 
menantang, tidak ada kelihatan batang hidung Yahweh atau Allah. Dasar mereka 
FIKTIF atau TUHAN PALSU.   

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> Emang terbukti ko kalo elo bego
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:54:11 
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> Subject: [proletar] Alien ALLAH Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman 
> Agamanya Sendiri !!!
> 
> Aku memang tidak sepintar ALLAH tetapi aku mulai tahu jalan pikiran dan niat 
> apa yang tersembunyi dalam benak pikiran oknum dzat bernama Allah (bukti lagi 
> ia alien dari dzat sama dengan kita) ketika ia menciptakan sistem tertutup 
> bernama Islam yang sudah makan korban banyak nyawa manusia dan hewan ini. 
> 
> Mengapa Allah tidak diperanakkan dan tidak memperanakkan??? Betul. Alien 
> golongan greys berkembang biak dengan KLONING. 
> 
> Mengapa Jibril takut dengan anjing dalam rumah?? Betul. Sebab para alien 
> greys takut ketularan kuman dari anjing. 
> Juga mengapa Muhammad tidak boleh makan bawang putih sebelum bertemu Jibril?? 
> alasannya sama, sebab aliens tidak tahan bau keringat manusia dan selalu 
> menjaga jarak, karena kuman dari manusia itu amat sangat berbahaya bagi 
> mereka. 
> 
> Mengapa Allah tahtanya arasynya ada di atas air?? betul sebab ia pakai 
> mothership yang mengambang diatas samudera
>  
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
> >
> > Terbukti goblognya si Pemdun
> > 
> > 
> > Hahahahahaha
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:27:19 
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri 
> > !!!
> > 
> > mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> > mereka. 
> > 
> > agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> > terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, 
> > kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias 
> > alien ???
> > 
> > sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> > orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> > 
> > kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa 
> > bajingan yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong leher 
> > kambing domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> > 
> > EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> > BANGSAT. 
> > ALIEN BANGSAT
> > PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> > YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama lagu 
> > > kebangsaannya.
> > > 
> > > From: item abu 
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> > > Sendiri !!!
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Orang itu selalu nyari sesuatu unt mereka jadikan patokan unt sesuatu yg 
> > > mereka ga ketahui, kayak si pemdun yg ngekhayal ttg alien. Jadi ga heran 
> > > kalo orang2 jaman dulu pd nyembah matahari, bulan, gunung dll.
> > > 
> > > Matahari dan bulan itu sering dijadikan obyek unt disembah krn dua benda 
> > > itu jelas kelihatan dan jg banyak pengaruhnya unt kehidupan. Tp di Arab 
> > > orang milih bulan, bukan matahari itu krn matahari ga dianggap sepenting 
> > > bulan, kalo siang, tanpa matahari (kalo mendung) jg langit udah terang, 
> > > pikir orang Arab. Kalo malam, tanpa bulan (dan bintang), orang Arab itu 
> > > akan kelabakan krn gelap gulita. Jadi bulanlah yg disembah oleh Arab 
> > > bukan matahari.
> > > 
> > > Arab jg pake kalender bulan, bukan matahari. Ini jg nunjukin bhw matahari 
> > > itu ga penting sama sekali dibandingkan bulan. Biarpun hujan di gurun 
> > > Arab itu cuma turun di sekitar bulan Januari, hujan itu cuma sehari 
> > > doang, jadi ga signifikan perannya, nurut orang2 primitif itu.
> > > 
> > > Beda dgn o

[proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

aku berhasil membongkar caranya membegoin kamu ha ha ha  

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
>
> Iya iya
> 
> Gw tau elo bego
> 
> Gak usah ngotot gitu dong 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:42:13 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!
> 
> Aku tahu si YAHWEH itu pintar, super pintar 
> 
> Aku PEMDUN tidak sepintar dia. 
> 
> tapi YAHWEH (dan ALLAH) itu alien-alien BANGSAT TIDAK BERMORAL YANG DOYAN 
> TUMBAL SAJEN DAN KEKERASAN.
> 
> alien2 yang menipu manusia dan mengangkangi manusia dalam sistem HUKUM AGAMA  
> dimana manusia tidak bisa lepas. Coba baca lagi artikelku ISLAM AGAMA 
> SEMPURNA 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/328198
> Dimana jelas Islam (dan Yahudi juga) itu memenjarakan pengikutnya dalam 
> sebuah sistem autokrasi tertutup yang dirancang demikian cerdas oleh 
> supermind hebat dari alien, digunakan gabungan metode teror, pahala+hukuman, 
> cuci otak intensif, hukum politik, dan kekerasan, sehingga praktis manusia 
> terkuasai sempurna dalam sistem ini. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
> >
> > Terbukti goblognya si Pemdun
> > 
> > 
> > Hahahahahaha
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:27:19 
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri 
> > !!!
> > 
> > mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> > mereka. 
> > 
> > agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> > terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, 
> > kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias 
> > alien ???
> > 
> > sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> > orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> > 
> > kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa 
> > bajingan yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong leher 
> > kambing domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> > 
> > EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> > BANGSAT. 
> > ALIEN BANGSAT
> > PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> > YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama lagu 
> > > kebangsaannya.
> > > 
> > > From: item abu 
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> > > Sendiri !!!
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Orang itu selalu nyari sesuatu unt mereka jadikan patokan unt sesuatu yg 
> > > mereka ga ketahui, kayak si pemdun yg ngekhayal ttg alien. Jadi ga heran 
> > > kalo orang2 jaman dulu pd nyembah matahari, bulan, gunung dll.
> > > 
> > > Matahari dan bulan itu sering dijadikan obyek unt disembah krn dua benda 
> > > itu jelas kelihatan dan jg banyak pengaruhnya unt kehidupan. Tp di Arab 
> > > orang milih bulan, bukan matahari itu krn matahari ga dianggap sepenting 
> > > bulan, kalo siang, tanpa matahari (kalo mendung) jg langit udah terang, 
> > > pikir orang Arab. Kalo malam, tanpa bulan (dan bintang), orang Arab itu 
> > > akan kelabakan krn gelap gulita. Jadi bulanlah yg disembah oleh Arab 
> > > bukan matahari.
> > > 
> > > Arab jg pake kalender bulan, bukan matahari. Ini jg nunjukin bhw matahari 
> > > itu ga penting sama sekali dibandingkan bulan. Biarpun hujan di gurun 
> > > Arab itu cuma turun di sekitar bulan Januari, hujan itu cuma sehari 
> > > doang, jadi ga signifikan perannya, nurut orang2 primitif itu.
> > > 
> > > Beda dgn orang Cina, biarpun mereka pake kalender bulan, mereka sadar 
> > > pentingnya matahari, maka mereka mengoreksi kalender bulan mereka spy 
> > > sesuai dgn matahari.
> > > 
> > > Dgn adanya fakta bhw auloh jg pake kalender bulan spt orang Arab di gurun 
> > > Arab, kita bisa simpulkan bhw auloh itu adalah oran

[proletar] Alien ALLAH Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

dasar, jadi kamu hanya menganggap isi Quran dan sejarah nabi hanya dongeng. 
sejarah PL juga dongeng?? ck ck ck sia-sia debat sama kamu


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Dasar tolol lu ini, ga bisa bedain antara fakta dgn dongeng.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >____
> >From: pemerhatidunia 
> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:01 PM
> >Subject: [proletar] Alien ALLAH Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman 
> >Agamanya Sendiri !!!
> >
> >
> >Â  
> >Ada cerita pasukan gajah dilempari batu-batu dari angkasa?? emangnya apa itu 
> >proyektil2 dari pelempar batu itu bukan teknologi alien dar mothership 
> >mereka?? 
> >
> >Ada hajar aswad batu hitam di Kaabah Mekkah itu bukannya batu meteor biasa 
> >yang berukuran besar, hitam karena mengandung banyak besi?? 
> >
> >Kira-kira JIbril itu menampakkan diri dalam wujud manusia itu bukan hologram 
> >atau memang alien beneran muncul di gua Hira?? 
> >
> >Syurga ranjang berjejer dialiri susu dan madu??? betul. Itu ranjang2 otopsi 
> >di UFO mothership dan dibawahnya adalah pipa-pipa minuman. 
> >
> >Dilayani 72 houris?? betul. itu adalah robot biologis seks perempuan, dengan 
> >tujuan mengambil sperma manusia untuk dipakai untuk percobaan genetik alien. 
> >
> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Aku memang tidak sepintar ALLAH tetapi aku mulai tahu jalan pikiran dan 
> >> niat apa yang tersembunyi dalam benak pikiran oknum dzat bernama Allah 
> >> (bukti lagi ia alien dari dzat sama dengan kita) ketika ia menciptakan 
> >> sistem tertutup bernama Islam yang sudah makan korban banyak nyawa manusia 
> >> dan hewan ini. 
> >> 
> >> Mengapa Allah tidak diperanakkan dan tidak memperanakkan??? Betul. Alien 
> >> golongan greys berkembang biak dengan KLONING. 
> >> 
> >> Mengapa Jibril takut dengan anjing dalam rumah?? Betul. Sebab para alien 
> >> greys takut ketularan kuman dari anjing. 
> >> Juga mengapa Muhammad tidak boleh makan bawang putih sebelum bertemu 
> >> Jibril?? alasannya sama, sebab aliens tidak tahan bau keringat manusia dan 
> >> selalu menjaga jarak, karena kuman dari manusia itu amat sangat berbahaya 
> >> bagi mereka. 
> >> 
> >> Mengapa Allah tahtanya arasynya ada di atas air?? betul sebab ia pakai 
> >> mothership yang mengambang diatas samudera 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Terbukti goblognya si Pemdun
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Hahahahahaha
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> >> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:27:19 
> >> > To: 
> >> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> >> > Sendiri !!!
> >> > 
> >> > mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL 
> >> > bertemu mereka. 
> >> > 
> >> > agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> >> > terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari 
> >> > atas, kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, 
> >> > alias alien ???
> >> > 
> >> > sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman 
> >> > banyak orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> >> > 
> >> > kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa 
> >> > bajingan yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong 
> >> > leher kambing domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> >> > 
> >> > EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA 
> >> > YAHUDI BANGSAT. 
> >> > ALIEN BANGSAT
> >> > PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> >> > YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama 
> >> > > lagu kebangsaannya.
> >> > > 
> >> > > From: item abu 
> >> > > Sent: Sund

[proletar] Alien BIBLE Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

Jadi kau orang kristen tidak percaya bible PL darn cerita nabi2 dgn alien 
disitu, dan kau bilang itu hanya dongeng?? gak salah tuh?? 

Aku memerhatikan informasi tertulis. Tidak ada yang hanya kubilang hanya 
dongeng.   

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Tolol, kalo Tuhan itu emang ada, maka Yesaya dll itu bisa ngeliat semua itu. 
> Kalo Tuhan ga ada, maka semua itu cuma kibulan. Ga ada kemungkinan alien 
> dsbnya.
> 
> Lu ini sakit jiwa, lu ini pasti ngerem di dlm kamar lu sambil mikir terus 
> ngekhayal yg ga keruan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >____
> >From: pemerhatidunia 
> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:20 PM
> >Subject: [proletar] Alien BIBLE Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman 
> >Agamanya Sendiri !!!
> >
> >
> >Â  
> >Yesaya melihat "Tuhan", tahtanya menjulang tinggi kelangit. apa itu bukan 
> >alien?? apa itu hanya khayalan??
> >
> >Yehezkiel melihat roda dalam roda; kuberitahu ya itu adalah pesawat alien 
> >mothership yang berputar dalam piringan lampu2 bercahaya. ada banyak video 
> >merekam ufo semacam ini. 
> >
> >Musa melihat "tuhan" lewat dalam nyala api dan angin dan bisa melihat 
> >"belakang"nya tuhan. Kamu pikir pencipta alam semesta yang lebarnya 80 
> >milyar tahun cahaya ini apa pantas tampangnya seperti itu?? apa itu bukan 
> >alien lewat ?? Ia lihat api membakar tetapi tidak belukar tidak terbakar. 
> >Itu mah teknologi gampang dengan hologram dan laser saja bisa. 
> >
> >Lalu yg bangsat adalah permintaan YAHweh dalam kitab keluaran dan imamat 
> >itu, weleh weleh, lebih sadis dari kurban untuk Nyi Roro Kidul. Sama dengan 
> >tumbal sajen untuk nyi blorong dan lebih sadis dari permintaan roh2 di 
> >gunung kawi. Kamu tahu tidak, sekarang cara suruhan Yahweh itu dipraktekkan 
> >dengan setia oleh orang Islam, setiap Idul Adha. Mau diganti oleh partai 
> >islam progresif seperti PKS menjadi uang saja, tidak usah potong kambing, 
> >tetapi sejauh ini belum berhasil. Mereka tidak tahu nyawa hewan itu menjadi 
> >persembahan "yang berbau harum" itu disedot oleh Yahweh dan Allah untuk 
> >makanannya, karena alien2 roh ini sudah terputus dari aliran energi kosmik 
> >Tuhan, harus cari makan sendiri. Oh ya, Yahweh sangat suka dupa seperti di 
> >klenteng dan dukun2 santet, dan genderuwo kuntilanak juga suka bau kemenyan 
> >dupa seperti itu. 
> >
> >Satu lagi, Jesus tidak wafat untuk jadi kurban tumbal sajen Yahweh. Ingat tu 
> >baik2. Itu sangat menghina. Apalagi patungnya telanjang digantung di atas 
> >pintu. Memalukan. JEsus sudah ke syurga, ia menang. Ia mengalahkan Yahweh 
> >dan Lucifer bosnya. 
> >
> >semua itu tatacara agama biadab tanpa tujuan yang dimengerti, kecuali oleh 
> >penyuruhnya, alien2 yang jahat, serigala-serigala yang mencuri dan 
> >membinasakan, menipu dengan semua ajaran dan dogma buatan manusia untuk 
> >menipu manusia supaya tetap GOBLOG. 
> >
> >
> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >>
> >> Lu ini sakit jiwa, selalu ngekhayal aja. Pergi deh ke psikiater ketimbang 
> >> lu tambah parah.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >From: pemerhatidunia 
> >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >> >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:27 AM
> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> >> >Sendiri !!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >ÃÂ  
> >> >mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> >> >mereka. 
> >> >
> >> >agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> >> >terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari 
> >> >atas, kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, 
> >> >alias alien ???
> >> >
> >> >sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> >> >orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> >> >
> >> >kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa 
> >> >bajingan yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong 
> >> >leher kambing domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> >> >
> >> >EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> >> >BANGSAT. 
> >> >ALIEN BANGSAT
> >> >PENIPU DAN

[proletar] Alien ALLAH Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

sudahlah alien jangan sekali-kali dibilang bego. mereka bisa gentayangan naik 
spaceship, dgn mereka pakai segala teknik canggih  antigravitasi dan time 
travel yg tidak terbayangkan.  

Kalau benar Isa diutus dari Tuhan yg ia sebut Bapaknya, tentu Isa punya 
teknologi dan pasukan yg lebih besar dan lebih kuat teknologinya. Suatu kali 
Isa mengatakan ada pasukan malaikat yg mengawalnya, tetapi Isa sama sekali 
tidak mau memakai kekuatan mereka. Entah apa niatnya. Isa sering melakukan 
mujijat, dan banyak diantaranya mujijat yang mengatasi waktu dan dimensi. 
Sekali ia pernah mengembalikan nyawa Lazarus balik ke badannya setelah mati 4 
hari. Itu kekuatan dan teknologi antar dimensi.  


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
>
> Tuh pemdun bego, coba jawab
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Sunny" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:19:59 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Alien ALLAH Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman 
> Agamanya Sendiri !!!
> 
> Dari mana bisa diketahui bahwa Allah itu pintar?
> 
> From: pemerhatidunia 
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:54 AM
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [proletar] Alien ALLAH Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman 
> Agamanya Sendiri !!!
> 
>   
> Aku memang tidak sepintar ALLAH tetapi aku mulai tahu jalan pikiran dan niat 
> apa yang tersembunyi dalam benak pikiran oknum dzat bernama Allah (bukti lagi 
> ia alien dari dzat sama dengan kita) ketika ia menciptakan sistem tertutup 
> bernama Islam yang sudah makan korban banyak nyawa manusia dan hewan ini. 
> 
> Mengapa Allah tidak diperanakkan dan tidak memperanakkan??? Betul. Alien 
> golongan greys berkembang biak dengan KLONING. 
> 
> Mengapa Jibril takut dengan anjing dalam rumah?? Betul. Sebab para alien 
> greys takut ketularan kuman dari anjing. 
> Juga mengapa Muhammad tidak boleh makan bawang putih sebelum bertemu Jibril?? 
> alasannya sama, sebab aliens tidak tahan bau keringat manusia dan selalu 
> menjaga jarak, karena kuman dari manusia itu amat sangat berbahaya bagi 
> mereka. 
> 
> Mengapa Allah tahtanya arasynya ada di atas air?? betul sebab ia pakai 
> mothership yang mengambang diatas samudera 
> 
> 
> --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
> >
> > Terbukti goblognya si Pemdun
> > 
> > 
> > Hahahahahaha
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> > Sender: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:27:19 
> > To: <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri 
> > !!!
> > 
> > mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> > mereka. 
> > 
> > agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> > terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, 
> > kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias 
> > alien ???
> > 
> > sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> > orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> > 
> > kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa 
> > bajingan yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong leher 
> > kambing domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> > 
> > EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> > BANGSAT. 
> > ALIEN BANGSAT
> > PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> > YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> > 
> > 
> > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Pantes Malaysia pakai irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama lagu 
> > > kebangsaannya.
> > > 
> > > From: item abu 
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> > > Sendiri !!!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Orang itu selalu nyari sesuatu unt mereka jadikan patokan unt sesuatu yg 
> > > mereka ga ketahui, kayak si pemdun yg ngekhayal ttg alien. Jadi ga heran 
> > > kalo orang2 jaman dulu pd nyembah matahari, bulan, gunung dll.
> > > 
> > > Matahari dan bulan itu sering dijadikan obyek unt disembah krn dua benda 
> > > itu jelas kelihatan dan jg banyak pengaruhnya unt kehidupan. Tp di Arab 
>

[proletar] Agama RE: Alien BIBLE Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

Jelasnya, agama2 yg dimulai dan hanya mengandalkan mujijat dan penampakan serta 
kunjungan "malaikat" atau "orang suci" itu wajib diwaspadai sebagai aliran 
buatan alien. wajib diperiksa dengan teliti buktinya apakah ia mampu membawa 
hidup setelah mati, atau hanya omong kosong doang. 

Contohnya adalah Musa dan agama Yahudi, Sekte Mormon, Raelian, Islam, dan juga 
(sebagian) Katolik.   

Lain dengan ISA. Ia benar alien tetapi datang dalam wujud daging dan darah, 
sama dengan kita, sehingga apa yang ia lakukan bisa kita evaluasi dan kita tiru 
dan dibuktikan. Kalau Isa hidup setelah mati, kita pun bisa demikian, tanpa 
mempermasalahkan ia itu Tuhan, manusia, atau monyet. ISA jelas manusia. TITIK. 
Ia jelas hidup setelah mati. itu bukti terakhir. TITIK. Ajarannya dan sunnahnya 
membawa hidup setelah mati, tanpa mujijat atau dengan mujijat. TITIK. 

  

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Yesaya melihat "Tuhan", tahtanya menjulang tinggi kelangit. apa itu bukan 
> alien?? apa itu hanya khayalan??
> 
> Yehezkiel melihat roda dalam roda; kuberitahu ya itu adalah pesawat alien 
> mothership yang berputar dalam piringan lampu2 bercahaya. ada banyak video 
> merekam ufo semacam ini. 
> 
> Musa melihat "tuhan" lewat dalam nyala api dan angin dan bisa melihat 
> "belakang"nya tuhan. Kamu pikir pencipta alam semesta yang lebarnya 80 milyar 
> tahun cahaya ini apa pantas tampangnya seperti itu?? apa itu bukan alien 
> lewat ?? Ia lihat api membakar tetapi tidak belukar tidak terbakar. Itu mah 
> teknologi gampang dengan hologram dan laser saja bisa. 
> 
> Lalu yg bangsat adalah permintaan YAHweh dalam kitab keluaran dan imamat itu, 
> weleh weleh, lebih sadis dari kurban untuk Nyi Roro Kidul. Sama dengan tumbal 
> sajen untuk nyi blorong dan lebih sadis dari permintaan roh2 di gunung kawi. 
> Kamu tahu tidak, sekarang cara suruhan Yahweh itu dipraktekkan dengan setia 
> oleh orang Islam, setiap Idul Adha. Mau diganti oleh partai islam progresif 
> seperti PKS menjadi uang saja, tidak usah potong kambing, tetapi sejauh ini 
> belum berhasil. Mereka tidak tahu nyawa hewan itu menjadi persembahan "yang 
> berbau harum" itu disedot oleh Yahweh dan Allah untuk makanannya, karena 
> alien2 roh ini sudah terputus dari aliran energi kosmik Tuhan, harus cari 
> makan sendiri. Oh ya, Yahweh sangat suka dupa seperti di klenteng dan dukun2 
> santet, dan genderuwo kuntilanak juga suka bau kemenyan dupa seperti itu. 
> 
> Satu lagi, Jesus tidak wafat untuk jadi kurban tumbal sajen Yahweh. Ingat tu 
> baik2. Itu sangat menghina. Apalagi patungnya telanjang digantung di atas 
> pintu. Memalukan. JEsus sudah ke syurga, ia menang. Ia mengalahkan Yahweh dan 
> Lucifer bosnya.  
> 
> semua itu tatacara agama biadab tanpa tujuan yang dimengerti, kecuali oleh 
> penyuruhnya, alien2 yang jahat, serigala-serigala yang mencuri dan 
> membinasakan, menipu dengan semua ajaran dan dogma buatan manusia untuk 
> menipu manusia supaya tetap GOBLOG.   
>  
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
> >
> > Lu ini sakit jiwa, selalu ngekhayal aja. Pergi deh ke psikiater ketimbang 
> > lu tambah parah.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >From: pemerhatidunia 
> > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:27 AM
> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri 
> > >!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >Â  
> > >mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> > >mereka. 
> > >
> > >agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> > >terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, 
> > >kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias 
> > >alien ???
> > >
> > >sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> > >orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> > >
> > >kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa 
> > >bajingan yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong 
> > >leher kambing domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> > >
> > >EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> > >BANGSAT. 
> > >ALIEN BANGSAT
> > >PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> > >YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> > >
> > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Te

[proletar] Alien BIBLE Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

Yesaya melihat "Tuhan", tahtanya menjulang tinggi kelangit. apa itu bukan 
alien?? apa itu hanya khayalan??

Yehezkiel melihat roda dalam roda; kuberitahu ya itu adalah pesawat alien 
mothership yang berputar dalam piringan lampu2 bercahaya. ada banyak video 
merekam ufo semacam ini. 

Musa melihat "tuhan" lewat dalam nyala api dan angin dan bisa melihat 
"belakang"nya tuhan. Kamu pikir pencipta alam semesta yang lebarnya 80 milyar 
tahun cahaya ini apa pantas tampangnya seperti itu?? apa itu bukan alien lewat 
?? Ia lihat api membakar tetapi tidak belukar tidak terbakar. Itu mah teknologi 
gampang dengan hologram dan laser saja bisa. 

Lalu yg bangsat adalah permintaan YAHweh dalam kitab keluaran dan imamat itu, 
weleh weleh, lebih sadis dari kurban untuk Nyi Roro Kidul. Sama dengan tumbal 
sajen untuk nyi blorong dan lebih sadis dari permintaan roh2 di gunung kawi. 
Kamu tahu tidak, sekarang cara suruhan Yahweh itu dipraktekkan dengan setia 
oleh orang Islam, setiap Idul Adha. Mau diganti oleh partai islam progresif 
seperti PKS menjadi uang saja, tidak usah potong kambing, tetapi sejauh ini 
belum berhasil. Mereka tidak tahu nyawa hewan itu menjadi persembahan "yang 
berbau harum" itu disedot oleh Yahweh dan Allah untuk makanannya, karena alien2 
roh ini sudah terputus dari aliran energi kosmik Tuhan, harus cari makan 
sendiri. Oh ya, Yahweh sangat suka dupa seperti di klenteng dan dukun2 santet, 
dan genderuwo kuntilanak juga suka bau kemenyan dupa seperti itu. 

Satu lagi, Jesus tidak wafat untuk jadi kurban tumbal sajen Yahweh. Ingat tu 
baik2. Itu sangat menghina. Apalagi patungnya telanjang digantung di atas 
pintu. Memalukan. JEsus sudah ke syurga, ia menang. Ia mengalahkan Yahweh dan 
Lucifer bosnya.  

semua itu tatacara agama biadab tanpa tujuan yang dimengerti, kecuali oleh 
penyuruhnya, alien2 yang jahat, serigala-serigala yang mencuri dan 
membinasakan, menipu dengan semua ajaran dan dogma buatan manusia untuk menipu 
manusia supaya tetap GOBLOG.   

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu  wrote:
>
> Lu ini sakit jiwa, selalu ngekhayal aja. Pergi deh ke psikiater ketimbang lu 
> tambah parah.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >From: pemerhatidunia 
> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:27 AM
> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri 
> >!!!
> >
> >
> >Â  
> >mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> >mereka. 
> >
> >agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> >terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, 
> >kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias alien 
> >???
> >
> >sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> >orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> >
> >kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa bajingan 
> >yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong leher kambing 
> >domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> >
> >EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> >BANGSAT. 
> >ALIEN BANGSAT
> >PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> >YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> >
> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama lagu 
> >> kebangsaannya.
> >> 
> >> From: item abu 
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> >> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> >> Sendiri !!!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Orang itu selalu nyari sesuatu unt mereka jadikan patokan unt sesuatu yg 
> >> mereka ga ketahui, kayak si pemdun yg ngekhayal ttg alien. Jadi ga heran 
> >> kalo orang2 jaman dulu pd nyembah matahari, bulan, gunung dll.
> >> 
> >> Matahari dan bulan itu sering dijadikan obyek unt disembah krn dua benda 
> >> itu jelas kelihatan dan jg banyak pengaruhnya unt kehidupan. Tp di Arab 
> >> orang milih bulan, bukan matahari itu krn matahari ga dianggap sepenting 
> >> bulan, kalo siang, tanpa matahari (kalo mendung) jg langit udah terang, 
> >> pikir orang Arab. Kalo malam, tanpa bulan (dan bintang), orang Arab itu 
> >> akan kelabakan krn gelap gulita. Jadi bulanlah yg disembah oleh Arab bukan 
> >> matahari.
> >> 
> >> Arab jg pake kalender bulan, bukan matahari. Ini jg nunjukin bhw matahari 
> >> itu ga penting sama sekali dibandingkan bulan. Biarpun hujan di g

[proletar] Alien ALLAH Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

Ada cerita pasukan gajah dilempari batu-batu dari angkasa?? emangnya apa itu 
proyektil2 dari pelempar batu itu bukan teknologi alien dar mothership mereka?? 
 

Ada hajar aswad batu hitam di Kaabah Mekkah itu bukannya batu meteor biasa yang 
berukuran besar, hitam karena mengandung banyak besi?? 

Kira-kira JIbril itu menampakkan diri dalam wujud manusia itu bukan hologram 
atau memang alien beneran muncul di gua Hira?? 

Syurga ranjang berjejer dialiri susu dan madu??? betul. Itu ranjang2 otopsi di 
UFO mothership dan dibawahnya adalah pipa-pipa minuman. 
 
Dilayani 72 houris?? betul. itu adalah robot biologis seks perempuan, dengan 
tujuan mengambil sperma manusia untuk dipakai untuk percobaan genetik alien. 


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Aku memang tidak sepintar ALLAH tetapi aku mulai tahu jalan pikiran dan niat 
> apa yang tersembunyi dalam benak pikiran oknum dzat bernama Allah (bukti lagi 
> ia alien dari dzat sama dengan kita) ketika ia menciptakan sistem tertutup 
> bernama Islam yang sudah makan korban banyak nyawa manusia dan hewan ini. 
> 
> Mengapa Allah tidak diperanakkan dan tidak memperanakkan??? Betul. Alien 
> golongan greys berkembang biak dengan KLONING. 
> 
> Mengapa Jibril takut dengan anjing dalam rumah?? Betul. Sebab para alien 
> greys takut ketularan kuman dari anjing. 
> Juga mengapa Muhammad tidak boleh makan bawang putih sebelum bertemu Jibril?? 
> alasannya sama, sebab aliens tidak tahan bau keringat manusia dan selalu 
> menjaga jarak, karena kuman dari manusia itu amat sangat berbahaya bagi 
> mereka. 
> 
> Mengapa Allah tahtanya arasynya ada di atas air?? betul sebab ia pakai 
> mothership yang mengambang diatas samudera
>  
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
> >
> > Terbukti goblognya si Pemdun
> > 
> > 
> > Hahahahahaha
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:27:19 
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri 
> > !!!
> > 
> > mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> > mereka. 
> > 
> > agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> > terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, 
> > kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias 
> > alien ???
> > 
> > sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> > orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> > 
> > kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa 
> > bajingan yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong leher 
> > kambing domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> > 
> > EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> > BANGSAT. 
> > ALIEN BANGSAT
> > PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> > YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama lagu 
> > > kebangsaannya.
> > > 
> > > From: item abu 
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> > > Sendiri !!!
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Orang itu selalu nyari sesuatu unt mereka jadikan patokan unt sesuatu yg 
> > > mereka ga ketahui, kayak si pemdun yg ngekhayal ttg alien. Jadi ga heran 
> > > kalo orang2 jaman dulu pd nyembah matahari, bulan, gunung dll.
> > > 
> > > Matahari dan bulan itu sering dijadikan obyek unt disembah krn dua benda 
> > > itu jelas kelihatan dan jg banyak pengaruhnya unt kehidupan. Tp di Arab 
> > > orang milih bulan, bukan matahari itu krn matahari ga dianggap sepenting 
> > > bulan, kalo siang, tanpa matahari (kalo mendung) jg langit udah terang, 
> > > pikir orang Arab. Kalo malam, tanpa bulan (dan bintang), orang Arab itu 
> > > akan kelabakan krn gelap gulita. Jadi bulanlah yg disembah oleh Arab 
> > > bukan matahari.
> > > 
> > > Arab jg pake kalender bulan, bukan matahari. Ini jg nunjukin bhw matahari 
> > > itu ga penting sama sekali dibandingkan bulan. Biarpun hujan di gurun 
> > > Arab itu cuma turun di sekitar bulan Januari, hujan itu cuma sehari 
> > > doang

[proletar] Alien ALLAH Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

Aku memang tidak sepintar ALLAH tetapi aku mulai tahu jalan pikiran dan niat 
apa yang tersembunyi dalam benak pikiran oknum dzat bernama Allah (bukti lagi 
ia alien dari dzat sama dengan kita) ketika ia menciptakan sistem tertutup 
bernama Islam yang sudah makan korban banyak nyawa manusia dan hewan ini. 

Mengapa Allah tidak diperanakkan dan tidak memperanakkan??? Betul. Alien 
golongan greys berkembang biak dengan KLONING. 

Mengapa Jibril takut dengan anjing dalam rumah?? Betul. Sebab para alien greys 
takut ketularan kuman dari anjing. 
Juga mengapa Muhammad tidak boleh makan bawang putih sebelum bertemu Jibril?? 
alasannya sama, sebab aliens tidak tahan bau keringat manusia dan selalu 
menjaga jarak, karena kuman dari manusia itu amat sangat berbahaya bagi mereka. 

Mengapa Allah tahtanya arasynya ada di atas air?? betul sebab ia pakai 
mothership yang mengambang diatas samudera
 


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
>
> Terbukti goblognya si Pemdun
> 
> 
> Hahahahahaha
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:27:19 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!
> 
> mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> mereka. 
> 
> agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, 
> kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias alien 
> ???
> 
> sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> 
> kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa bajingan 
> yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong leher kambing 
> domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> 
> EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> BANGSAT. 
> ALIEN BANGSAT
> PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> >
> > Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama lagu 
> > kebangsaannya.
> > 
> > From: item abu 
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> > Sendiri !!!
> > 
> >   
> > Orang itu selalu nyari sesuatu unt mereka jadikan patokan unt sesuatu yg 
> > mereka ga ketahui, kayak si pemdun yg ngekhayal ttg alien. Jadi ga heran 
> > kalo orang2 jaman dulu pd nyembah matahari, bulan, gunung dll.
> > 
> > Matahari dan bulan itu sering dijadikan obyek unt disembah krn dua benda 
> > itu jelas kelihatan dan jg banyak pengaruhnya unt kehidupan. Tp di Arab 
> > orang milih bulan, bukan matahari itu krn matahari ga dianggap sepenting 
> > bulan, kalo siang, tanpa matahari (kalo mendung) jg langit udah terang, 
> > pikir orang Arab. Kalo malam, tanpa bulan (dan bintang), orang Arab itu 
> > akan kelabakan krn gelap gulita. Jadi bulanlah yg disembah oleh Arab bukan 
> > matahari.
> > 
> > Arab jg pake kalender bulan, bukan matahari. Ini jg nunjukin bhw matahari 
> > itu ga penting sama sekali dibandingkan bulan. Biarpun hujan di gurun Arab 
> > itu cuma turun di sekitar bulan Januari, hujan itu cuma sehari doang, jadi 
> > ga signifikan perannya, nurut orang2 primitif itu.
> > 
> > Beda dgn orang Cina, biarpun mereka pake kalender bulan, mereka sadar 
> > pentingnya matahari, maka mereka mengoreksi kalender bulan mereka spy 
> > sesuai dgn matahari.
> > 
> > Dgn adanya fakta bhw auloh jg pake kalender bulan spt orang Arab di gurun 
> > Arab, kita bisa simpulkan bhw auloh itu adalah orang Arab jg. Kalo misal 
> > auloh tau geografi di seluruh dunia, logikanya auloh itu kan make kalender 
> > matahari, bukan kalender bulan.
> > 
> > >
> > >From: Sunny <mailto:ambon%40tele2.se>
> > >To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:51 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> > >Sendiri !!!
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >Mengapa dan apa signifikan dipakai bulan dan bintang sebagai lambang 
> > >kepercayaan? Ada yang bisa kasi komentar? Kalau agama Krsiten, pada 
> > >umumnya orang sudah mengetahui mengapa dipakai salib sebagai lambang agama.
> > >
> > >From: item abu

[proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

Betul sekali kata Ny. Muskie sekarang bagaimana membebaskan muslimah dari 
ancaman agamanya sendiri. korban pertama agamanya adalah perempuan. korban 
kedua adalah non muslim. korban kedua adalah islam moderat dan liberal. korban 
berikutnya adalah pengikut islam sendiri yang disuruh berkhayal mengenai syurga 
padahal Nabi Muhammad sendiri tidak bisa membuktikan ia sendiri hidup setelah 
mati, artinya sama dengan nenekmu, mati masuk kuburan jadi bangkai dan lenyap 
ditelan tanah. 


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Aku tahu si YAHWEH itu pintar, super pintar 
> 
> Aku PEMDUN tidak sepintar dia. 
> 
> tapi YAHWEH (dan ALLAH) itu alien-alien BANGSAT TIDAK BERMORAL YANG DOYAN 
> TUMBAL SAJEN DAN KEKERASAN.
> 
> alien2 yang menipu manusia dan mengangkangi manusia dalam sistem HUKUM AGAMA  
> dimana manusia tidak bisa lepas. Coba baca lagi artikelku ISLAM AGAMA 
> SEMPURNA 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/328198
> Dimana jelas Islam (dan Yahudi juga) itu memenjarakan pengikutnya dalam 
> sebuah sistem autokrasi tertutup yang dirancang demikian cerdas oleh 
> supermind hebat dari alien, digunakan gabungan metode teror, pahala+hukuman, 
> cuci otak intensif, hukum politik, dan kekerasan, sehingga praktis manusia 
> terkuasai sempurna dalam sistem ini. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
> >
> > Terbukti goblognya si Pemdun
> > 
> > 
> > Hahahahahaha
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:27:19 
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri 
> > !!!
> > 
> > mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> > mereka. 
> > 
> > agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> > terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, 
> > kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias 
> > alien ???
> > 
> > sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> > orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> > 
> > kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa 
> > bajingan yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong leher 
> > kambing domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> > 
> > EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> > BANGSAT. 
> > ALIEN BANGSAT
> > PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> > YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama lagu 
> > > kebangsaannya.
> > > 
> > > From: item abu 
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> > > Sendiri !!!
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Orang itu selalu nyari sesuatu unt mereka jadikan patokan unt sesuatu yg 
> > > mereka ga ketahui, kayak si pemdun yg ngekhayal ttg alien. Jadi ga heran 
> > > kalo orang2 jaman dulu pd nyembah matahari, bulan, gunung dll.
> > > 
> > > Matahari dan bulan itu sering dijadikan obyek unt disembah krn dua benda 
> > > itu jelas kelihatan dan jg banyak pengaruhnya unt kehidupan. Tp di Arab 
> > > orang milih bulan, bukan matahari itu krn matahari ga dianggap sepenting 
> > > bulan, kalo siang, tanpa matahari (kalo mendung) jg langit udah terang, 
> > > pikir orang Arab. Kalo malam, tanpa bulan (dan bintang), orang Arab itu 
> > > akan kelabakan krn gelap gulita. Jadi bulanlah yg disembah oleh Arab 
> > > bukan matahari.
> > > 
> > > Arab jg pake kalender bulan, bukan matahari. Ini jg nunjukin bhw matahari 
> > > itu ga penting sama sekali dibandingkan bulan. Biarpun hujan di gurun 
> > > Arab itu cuma turun di sekitar bulan Januari, hujan itu cuma sehari 
> > > doang, jadi ga signifikan perannya, nurut orang2 primitif itu.
> > > 
> > > Beda dgn orang Cina, biarpun mereka pake kalender bulan, mereka sadar 
> > > pentingnya matahari, maka mereka mengoreksi kalender bulan mereka spy 
> > > sesuai dgn matahari.
> > > 
> > > Dgn adanya fakta bhw auloh jg pake kalender bulan spt orang Arab di gurun 
> > > Arab, kita bisa si

[proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

Aku tahu si YAHWEH itu pintar, super pintar 

Aku PEMDUN tidak sepintar dia. 

tapi YAHWEH (dan ALLAH) itu alien-alien BANGSAT TIDAK BERMORAL YANG DOYAN 
TUMBAL SAJEN DAN KEKERASAN.

alien2 yang menipu manusia dan mengangkangi manusia dalam sistem HUKUM AGAMA  
dimana manusia tidak bisa lepas. Coba baca lagi artikelku ISLAM AGAMA SEMPURNA 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/328198
Dimana jelas Islam (dan Yahudi juga) itu memenjarakan pengikutnya dalam sebuah 
sistem autokrasi tertutup yang dirancang demikian cerdas oleh supermind hebat 
dari alien, digunakan gabungan metode teror, pahala+hukuman, cuci otak 
intensif, hukum politik, dan kekerasan, sehingga praktis manusia terkuasai 
sempurna dalam sistem ini. 




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
>
> Terbukti goblognya si Pemdun
> 
> 
> Hahahahahaha
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:27:19 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!
> 
> mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
> mereka. 
> 
> agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan 
> terjadi dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, 
> kamu dari dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias alien 
> ???
> 
> sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak 
> orang yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 
> 
> kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa bajingan 
> yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong leher kambing 
> domba di kitab Imamat itu??
> 
> EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
> BANGSAT. 
> ALIEN BANGSAT
> PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
> YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
> >
> > Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama lagu 
> > kebangsaannya.
> > 
> > From: item abu 
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> > Sendiri !!!
> > 
> >   
> > Orang itu selalu nyari sesuatu unt mereka jadikan patokan unt sesuatu yg 
> > mereka ga ketahui, kayak si pemdun yg ngekhayal ttg alien. Jadi ga heran 
> > kalo orang2 jaman dulu pd nyembah matahari, bulan, gunung dll.
> > 
> > Matahari dan bulan itu sering dijadikan obyek unt disembah krn dua benda 
> > itu jelas kelihatan dan jg banyak pengaruhnya unt kehidupan. Tp di Arab 
> > orang milih bulan, bukan matahari itu krn matahari ga dianggap sepenting 
> > bulan, kalo siang, tanpa matahari (kalo mendung) jg langit udah terang, 
> > pikir orang Arab. Kalo malam, tanpa bulan (dan bintang), orang Arab itu 
> > akan kelabakan krn gelap gulita. Jadi bulanlah yg disembah oleh Arab bukan 
> > matahari.
> > 
> > Arab jg pake kalender bulan, bukan matahari. Ini jg nunjukin bhw matahari 
> > itu ga penting sama sekali dibandingkan bulan. Biarpun hujan di gurun Arab 
> > itu cuma turun di sekitar bulan Januari, hujan itu cuma sehari doang, jadi 
> > ga signifikan perannya, nurut orang2 primitif itu.
> > 
> > Beda dgn orang Cina, biarpun mereka pake kalender bulan, mereka sadar 
> > pentingnya matahari, maka mereka mengoreksi kalender bulan mereka spy 
> > sesuai dgn matahari.
> > 
> > Dgn adanya fakta bhw auloh jg pake kalender bulan spt orang Arab di gurun 
> > Arab, kita bisa simpulkan bhw auloh itu adalah orang Arab jg. Kalo misal 
> > auloh tau geografi di seluruh dunia, logikanya auloh itu kan make kalender 
> > matahari, bukan kalender bulan.
> > 
> > >
> > >From: Sunny <mailto:ambon%40tele2.se>
> > >To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:51 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> > >Sendiri !!!
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >Mengapa dan apa signifikan dipakai bulan dan bintang sebagai lambang 
> > >kepercayaan? Ada yang bisa kasi komentar? Kalau agama Krsiten, pada 
> > >umumnya orang sudah mengetahui mengapa dipakai salib sebagai lambang agama.
> > >
> > >From: item abu 
> > >Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:52 AM
> > >To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com 
> > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari An

[proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

mengatakan alien itu gak ada sama dengan membantah nabi2 bible PL bertemu 
mereka. 

agama2 dunia itu ada karena kegiatan dan prakarsa para alien ini, bukan terjadi 
dengan sendirinya. emangnya Jesus bukannya berkata "Aku dari atas, kamu dari 
dunia" darimana dong dia kalau bukan dari planet lain, alias alien ???

sudahlah, kamu tidak berargumen berdasar penelitian dan pengalaman banyak orang 
yang sengaja meneliti tentang alien. 

kamu tersinggung khan kalau aku katakan fakta bahwa YAHWEH itu dewa bajingan 
yang demen tumbal sajen, seperti ditulis jelas potong-potong leher kambing 
domba di kitab Imamat itu??

EMANG KOK, DARI 8 TAHUN LALU SUDAH KUKATAKAN JELAS YAHWEH ITU DEWA YAHUDI 
BANGSAT. 
ALIEN BANGSAT
PENIPU DAN PEMBUNUH MANUSIA DARI SEMULA
YAHWEH SANG ALIEN BAJINGAN


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
>
> Pantes Malaysia pakai  irama lagu klasik Terang Bulan menjadi irama lagu 
> kebangsaannya.
> 
> From: item abu 
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> Sendiri !!!
> 
>   
> Orang itu selalu nyari sesuatu unt mereka jadikan patokan unt sesuatu yg 
> mereka ga ketahui, kayak si pemdun yg ngekhayal ttg alien. Jadi ga heran kalo 
> orang2 jaman dulu pd nyembah matahari, bulan, gunung dll.
> 
> Matahari dan bulan itu sering dijadikan obyek unt disembah krn dua benda itu 
> jelas kelihatan dan jg banyak pengaruhnya unt kehidupan. Tp di Arab orang 
> milih bulan, bukan matahari itu krn matahari ga dianggap sepenting bulan, 
> kalo siang, tanpa matahari (kalo mendung) jg langit udah terang, pikir orang 
> Arab. Kalo malam, tanpa bulan (dan bintang), orang Arab itu akan kelabakan 
> krn gelap gulita. Jadi bulanlah yg disembah oleh Arab bukan matahari.
> 
> Arab jg pake kalender bulan, bukan matahari. Ini jg nunjukin bhw matahari itu 
> ga penting sama sekali dibandingkan bulan. Biarpun hujan di gurun Arab itu 
> cuma turun di sekitar bulan Januari, hujan itu cuma sehari doang, jadi ga 
> signifikan perannya, nurut orang2 primitif itu.
> 
> Beda dgn orang Cina, biarpun mereka pake kalender bulan, mereka sadar 
> pentingnya matahari, maka mereka mengoreksi kalender bulan mereka spy sesuai 
> dgn matahari.
> 
> Dgn adanya fakta bhw auloh jg pake kalender bulan spt orang Arab di gurun 
> Arab, kita bisa simpulkan bhw auloh itu adalah orang Arab jg. Kalo misal 
> auloh tau geografi di seluruh dunia, logikanya auloh itu kan make kalender 
> matahari, bukan kalender bulan.
> 
> >
> >From: Sunny <mailto:ambon%40tele2.se>
> >To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:51 PM
> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> >Sendiri !!!
> >
> >
> >  
> >Mengapa dan apa signifikan dipakai bulan dan bintang sebagai lambang 
> >kepercayaan? Ada yang bisa kasi komentar? Kalau agama Krsiten, pada umumnya 
> >orang sudah mengetahui mengapa dipakai salib sebagai lambang agama.
> >
> >From: item abu 
> >Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:52 AM
> >To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com 
> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya 
> >Sendiri !!!
> >
> >Ni orang emang tolol, kebanyakan nonton film holywood.
> >
> >>
> >>From: pemerhatidunia <mailto:pemerhatidunia%40yahoo.com>
> >>To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com
> >>Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:06 PM
> >>Subject: [proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri 
> >>!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>Dan mungkin sekali ALLAH itu memang DEWI BULAN (moon goddess), dari 
> >>simbolnya bulan bintang, ALLAH itu adalah ALIEN YANG BERMARKAS DI BULAN 
> >>menjajah bumi dengan ideologi dan tipu menipu iming2 syurga ranjang 
> >>berjejer ranjang otopsi dan robot biologis sexy houris di mothership UFO 
> >>itu 
> >>
> >>--- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia" 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Minggu siang ini, masjid menyiarkan keras suara kelompok pengajian 
> >>> perempuan menyanyi. 
> >>> 
> >>> Mereka tidak tahu, bahwa kalau Islam lebih diterapkan di Indonesia, maka 
> >>> hak asasi perempuan yang akan langsung dipotong dan mereka ditindas dan 
> >>> dianiaya. sebagaimana terbukti dimana2 ketika Syariah Islam ditegakkan. 
> >>> Mereka boleh dipoligami, keluar rumah saja tidak boleh tanpa dikawal 
> >>> lelaki, dst dst ciri khas ISLAM sistem bikinan ALLA

[proletar] CARA MENGALAHKAN ALLAH DENGAN METODE SPIRITUAL

Allah itu alien yang riil dan kekuasaannya atas manusia kuat. 

Cara mengalahkannya, pertama dengan metode spiritual.

Kalian yang ingin kekuasaan ALlah atas bangsa Indonesia diruntuhkan, lakukan 
metode spiritual. 

Setiap hari, tujukan konsentrasi pikiran dan kekuatan mentalmu, bayangkan 
langit kota Jakarta dan Allah ada diatas. 

Dalam nama ISA ALMASIH, BAYANGKAN ALLAH DIIKAT OLEH KEKUATAN SPIRIT YANG HEBAT, 
SEHINGGA IA TIDAK BERDAYA
SELANJUTnya DENGAN SEKUAT TENAGA, BAYANGKAN ALLAH ITU DIHEMPASKAN DAN HANCUR 
BERKEPING-KEPING KE BUMI. 
KEKUASAANNYA RUNTUH DAN PATAH. 

ANGKAT ALLAH, DAN SEKUAT TENAGA, BAYANGKAN dan lemparkan ALLAH KELUAR PLANET 
INI!!!

kalau sejuta orang Bumi melakukan hal ini, rontok sudah kekuasaan Allah atas 
Indonesia. 
   





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[proletar] Re: HUDUD CIPTAAN PAS MEMBUKTIKAN PAS PARTI SESAT MENYESATKAN -

ALLAH itulah YANG HARUS DIUSIR DARI PLANET INI

Dia bukan TUHAn YANG BAIK DAN BENAR

DIa alien yang JAHAT

Agama TIDAK BOLEH DIDASARKAN PADA HUKUM

AGAMA ITU HAL SPIRITUALITAS DAN HIDUP SELAMANYA DALAM WUJUD SPIRIT, BUKAN HUKUM 
POTONG DAN RAJAM

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Hizamri Johari  wrote:
>
> Salam
> Yang pasti sesat.. Mereka yang menetang hukum Allah SWT...
> 
> 
> HR Termizi : 
> Umar ra berkata : 
> Rasul SAW merejam, Abu Bakar merejam, aku pun merejam. 
> Kalau tidak kerana tidak mahu menambah kitab Allah, tentulah aku sudah 
> menulisnya dalam mushaf. 
> Sesungguhnya, aku takut kaum selepasku akan menjadi KAFIR kerana tidak 
> mendapatinya dalam kitab Allah. 
> (Himpunan Hadith Hukum Hudud - ms 85)
> Yang pasti menyesatkan.. Fatwa dari mereka yang bodoh/jahil..
> 
> 
> Daripada Abdullah bin Amr bin 'ash r.a. 
> berkata: Aku mendengar Rasulullah saw. bersabda, "Bahawasanya Allah swt. 
> tidak mencabut (menghilangkan) akan ilmu itu dengan sekaligus dari 
> (dada) manusia. Tetapi Allah swt. menghilangkan ilmu itu dengan 
> mematikan alim ulama. Maka apabila sudah ditiadakan alim ulama, orang 
> ramai akan memilih orang-orang yang jahil sebagai pemimpin mereka.Maka 
> apabila pemimpin yang jahil itu ditanya, mereka akan berfatwa tanpa ilmu 
> pengetahuan. Mereka sesat dan menyesatkan orang lain." 
> H.R. Muslim
> 
> 
> 
> Jelas tercatit untuk kes rogol :
> Hadis ini dengan jelas menunjukkan bahawa Nabi melayani dan menerima aduan 
> mangsa, menyiasat kebenarannya dan seterusnya menjatuhkan 
> hukuman, meskipun aduan mangsa yang mendakwa dirinya dirogol seseorang, 
> dilakukan tanpa mengemukakan empat saksi.
> 
> Adalah jelas, Nabi tidak terus mensabitkan kesalahan qazaf ke atas wanita itu 
> disebabkan beliau mengadu seseorang merogolnya tanpa mengemukakan empat 
> saksi.
> 
> 
> 
> WAllahua3lam
> Wassalam
> Hizamri
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: zulfahmi zainal 
> 
> 
> 
> Â  
> assalammualaikum sahabat, banyak2 istighfar.
> 
> Â 
> ISLAM DULU KINI DAN SELAMANYA
> 
> 
> 
> From: hamden yahaya 
> Subject: Re: [Idaman_Group] HUDUD CIPTAAN PAS MEMBUKTIKAN PAS PARTI SESAT 
> MENYESATKAN
> 
> 
> Â  
> ertinya, HUKUM HUDUD ciptaan PAS tidak merujuk jumhur ulama Malaysia/Dunia 
> Muslim. Apakah HUKUM HUDUD ciptaan PAS itu cuma MANIPFESTO untuk memikat 
> pengundi pilihanraya sahaja
> 
> 
> 
> From: nizam penang 
> Subject: [Idaman_Group] HUDUD CIPTAAN PAS MEMBUKTIKAN PAS PARTI SESAT 
> MENYESATKAN
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Dan tiadalah yang dapat mengambil pengajaran (dan peringatan) melainkan 
> orang-orang yang menggunakan akal fikirannya. (Al-Baqarah 2:269)
> 
> Berikut ini di nukilkan sebahagian dari Enakmen Undang-undang Kanun Jenayah 
> Syariah (ii) 1993 (Hukum Hudud):
> 
> BAHAGIAN III
> 
> Keterangan
> 
> 39. Bagaimana membukti kesalahan. En. 2/91.
> 
> (1) Kecuali jika ada percanggahan dengan peruntukan yang ada dalam Enakmen 
> ini, maka Enakmen Keterangan Mahkamah Syariah 1991 hendaklah dipakai untuk 
> membuktikan kesalahan-kesalahan di baawah Enakmen ini.
> 
> (2) Semua kesalahan di bawah Enakmen ini samada kesalahan hudud atau 
> kesalahan qisos, atau kesalahan ta'zir, hendaklah dibuktikan dengan 
> keterangan lisan atau iqrar yang dibuat oleh tertuduh.
> 
> 40. Bilangan saksi
> 
> (1) Bilangan saksi-saksi yang dikehendaki untuk membuktikan semua kesalahan 
> di bawah Enakmen ini melainkan zina, hendaklah sekurang-kurangnya dua orang.
> 
> (2) Bilangan saksi-saksi yang dikehendaki untuk membuktikan kesalahan zina 
> hendaklah tidak kurang daripada empat orang.
> 
> 41. Syarat-syarat menjadi saksi
> 
> (1) Tiap-tiap orang saksi hendaklah terdiri daripada seorang lelaki Islam 
> yang akil baligh dan hendaklah seorang yang adil.
> 
> (2) Seseorang itu adalah dianggap adil jika ia menunaikan apa-apa yang 
> disuruh oleh Islam dan menjauhi daripada dosa-dosa besar serta tidak 
> mengekalkan dosa-dosa kecil dan juga mempunyai isti'mal al-muru'ah, (perasaan 
> dan pendirian menghormati diri).
> 
> (3) Seseorang itu adalah dianggap adil, sehingga sebaliknya dibuktikan.
> 
> 42. Keadaan keterangan
> 
> (1) Untuk membuktikan tuduhan terhadap tertuduh dan menyebabkan dia boleh 
> dihukum dengan hukuman hudud atau qisos, keterangan yang diberi hendaklah 
> benar-benar terang dan tidak ada apa-apa kesamaran dan keraguan.
> 
> (2) Tiap-tiap saksi hendaklah dengan terang menyatakan bahawa dia benar-benar 
> melihat perbuatan yang didakwakan itu dan dalam kes zina pula keempat-empat 
> orang saksi itu hendaklah menyatakan bahawa mereka benar-benar melihat 
> kemasukan zakar ke dalam faraj perempuan pasangan yang bersetubuh itu dengan 
> juga hendaklah jangan ada perselisihan dan pertelingkahan di antara 
> saksi-saksi di dalam keterangan itu.
> 
> 43. Menarik balik keterangan
> 
> (1) Untuk menyebabkan hukuman hudud dikenakan kepada tertuduh setiap saksi 
> itu hendaklah berdiri teguh di atas keterangan te

[proletar] ISLAM AGAMA SEMPURNA Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

dan Islam adalah betul agama jempolan, "hari ini sudah kusempurnakan agamamu" 
dari sudut alien penciptanya, itu sistem sempurna untuk mengikat membelenggu 
menindas manusia dalam satu sistem terpadu yang tertutup.

1. dari segi kemajuan dilarang, karena semua harus mengacu pada sunnah nabi. 
sedangkan sunnah nabi itu meliputi semua aspek kehidupan. habis sudah semua 
diatur dalam satu sistem hukum tertutup dimana tidak ada kebebasan. 

2. dari segi keberanian berpikir bebas manusia dipupus dengan ancaman bahwa 
Tuhan itu pemurka dan pengazab neraka sepedih-pedihnya. Teror ketakutan untuk 
menakuti manusia dgn sesuatu yg imajiner. 

3. perempuan adalah agen perubahan, dimana-mana spiritualitas muncul dari 
perempuan yg bermeditasi, mencintai, ikhlas dan sabar, melakukan pelayanan amal 
kebaikan. Perempuan ditindas tidak oleh bicara dalam sistem laki-laki ini. 
Kekuasaan politik perempuan dibuat setengah atau bahkan ditindas dengan ancaman 
dan teror. neraka katanya mayoritas perempuan. lalu harga perempuan lebih nista 
dari binatang dan harta milik lelaki karena bisa dipukul dan dicerai semau 
lelaki sedangkan kemana2 harus dikawal. Yg dicambuk selalu perempuan. Yg 
matanya jelalatan lelaki tetapi yg disalahkan perempuan disuruh menutupi badan 
seperti mumi.
 
4. Diatas semua itu dibuat sistem hukum yang berkuasa diatas hak asasi, Manusia 
ditundukkan dalam sistem hukum. Kata nabi Isa: Hukum agama itu dibuat untuk 
manusia, bukan manusia untuk hukum syariat. Dalam Islam, semua hal tidak 
bermoral dan kekejian diperbolehkan demi melaksanakan hukum agama. 
Celakanya, hukum agama Islam itu sendiri hukum negatif, belum melakukan baru 
prasangka sudah dihukum. Ajaran beda dipandang sesat belum terbukti merugikan 
sudah langsung dihancurkan. Babi dan anjing belum terbukti merugikan langsung 
dilarang. Semua hanya prasangka dan gugon tuhon, tabu (taboo, pamali) yang 
tidak ada buktinya. 

5. Dengan sistematis Islam menghambat dan memusnahkan semua peluang berinovasi 
dan kreativitas. Seni dilarang semua, kecuali hanya klotekan rebana yg iramanya 
gitu deh satu jenis rhythm dan melodinya nama minor, nyanyian Islam dan adzan 
itu lebih mirip orang menangis daripada. Semua bentuk lukisan dan seni (yg 
biasanya menggambarkan manusia dilarang. Jelas ketika Islam masuk di Jawa, 
habislah hampir semua seni candi dan ukiran (seperti yg kita lihat sisanya di 
Bali).

6. Iptek dihentikan. Di jaman Abbasiyah ada aliran mu'tazilah yang menyerap 
ajaran Yunani ke dalam Islam. Itulah masa keemasan iptek Islam dimana 
berkembang aljabar dan ilmu kimia. Lalu muncul bentrokan dengan kelompok 
fundamentalis Islam, soal wujud Tuhan dan kitab suci AlQuran, dll, soal 
penemuan ilmiah yang tidak cocok dengan Islam dan kebebasan berpikir yang tidak 
sesuai dalam Islam. Islam melarang kebebasan berpikir yang dianjurkan filsafat 
Yunani. Lalu muncul dekrit untuk kembali pada Islam sunnah teladan Nabi 
Muhammad, aliran ahlusunnah wal jamaah, lalu semua kemajuan ilmu teknologi 
dalam Islam berhenti, perlahan-lahan hingga sekarang tidak pernah berhasil 
muncul lagi. Islam terpuruk dalam jaman kegelapan.   

7. Islam itu sendiri artinya pasrah total. Manusia dipandang sebagai abdi atau 
hamba yang tidak bisa membantah apapun kata "Allah" atau kata ulama. Dengan 
demikian dipotonglah semua hak freedom of freewill yang melekat dalam diri 
manusia. 

8. Lebih pintar lagi, dengan hafalan ayat dan tatacara standar yang 
diulang-ulang-ulang seribu kali dengan iming2 lebih banyak dapat pahala dan 
sejenisnya, itu brainswashing dan melanggar prinsip kreativitas dan kebebasan. 
Dari ilmu hypnosis kita tahu fakta bahwa manusia yg disuruh melakukan demikian 
akan terprogram otaknya, dan tidak bisa melakukan yg lain kecuali pikirannya 
diprogram ulang dan dibebaskan. Mereka tidak bisa membedakan antara yang benar 
dan salah lagi. 
  
9. Semua diprogram untuk mencapai kesenangan syurga yg isinya tempat maksiat 
raksasa untuk semua kesenangan. Syurga yang fiktif dan sama sekali tak ada 
buktinya. Sebaliknya dalam majalah2 islam kita baca kesaksian mereka bahwa 
akhirat itu menakutkan, mati itu mengerikan, mayat dimakan ulat, dll dll yg 
isinya bahwa Allah itu memang pemilik neraka, bukan syurga yg fiktif.  

10. Anak2 ditakuti dan diajari biadab melalui menonton pembantaian binatang di 
Idul Adha. Itu pembuktian bahwa Islam itu tidak berbelas kasihan. Bukti juga 
bahwa Islam itu sekte yg sama dengan agama2 kuno pengurbanan tumbal sajen 
binatang dan darah, ciri khas penyembahan syetan. 

11. Sejak kecil ditanamkan bahwa kafir itu sesat, masuk neraka, dll dll 
sehingga menanamkan kebencian dalam jiwa manusia. Ayat Allah tidak diperanakkan 
dst ditanamkan diulang2. Salib akan dipatahkan dll. Jelas ada sasarannya. Dan 
sasarannya Nabi Isa, dalam wujud kristen dan aliran2 campurannya, seperti 
Ahmadiyyah (Ahmadiyyah menantikan kedatangan Imam Mahdi, yang mereka percayai 
adalah Isa Almasih, dan mereka memegang kubur Nabi Isa di Kashmir. Isa mengaku 
jelas dia

[proletar] AFGHANISTAN: Anak lelaki korban perdagangan budak

MUSLIM SEX SLAVES: `BACHA BAZI' aka Boy Play where very young boys are the
`entertainment' for grown men
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/02/27/muslim-sex-slaves-bacha-bazi-aka-boy-play-where-very-young-boys-are-the-entertainment-for-grown-men/
Posted: February 27, 2010 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed under: Children |333
Comments »
Popular in Afghanistan, these "dancing boys" are actually sex slaves, lured off
the streets by pimps, taught to dance and sing, to wear make-up and to dress
like girls. Then they are made to perform before large groups of men. ALL of
them are sexually abused.

So let me get this straight. We know paedophilia is condoned in Islam but I
thought homosexuality was against the law?

"Dancing boys" are a lucrative business. Powerful former warlords and
businessmen love to watch them and will pay a lot of money to have their own
boy for Bacha Bazi. Some of the boys are traded like swap cards amongst the
rich and powerful and if they disobey their "owners" they are killed or
brutalised.

The trade in boys is well known to the United Nations. According to Nazir
Alimy, who compiled a report on the issue for the UN, there is no doubt who is
funding this practice and why the police refuse to stop it. "According to our
research these dancing boys are used by powerful men for sex," Mr Alimy said.

Paedophiles and pimps search for young boys so they can sell them or groom them
to be trained as "dancing boys". In one case a journalist goes in the car with
a paedophile named Dastager. As they drive, Dastager explains the type of boy
he is looking for. Then in broad daylight the "dancing boy master" stops the
car, goes to a shopfront and brings a boy back to his the waiting car

According to a report prepared for the United Nations there is evidence that
the practice of bacha bazi and the sexual abuse of boys is common throughout
the north of the country. It confirms that young boys, some of them only 10
years old, are lured into life as a sex slave.

There is also evidence that this type of abuse is spreading throughout
Afghanistan."It's true they make the boys wear girls' clothes and make them
dance in front of many men," he said.

The powerful customers are often former warlords who helped drive the Taliban
out of the north. Others who involve themselves in the trade of boys are
wealthy businessmen. Under the Taliban, Bacha Bazi was outlawed. Today it is
still a crime but clearly there is no concerted effort being made to stop the
practice and the criminal activity that surrounds it.

See an excellent 6-part documentary about BACHA BAZI here:
bacha-bazi-documentary
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boys are the `entertainment' for grown men"

QV
February 27, 2010 at 5:52 AM

All muslim countries that are not Arabic are in the business of kidnapping,
selling and trafficking boys to the Gulf States. This is called MUSLIM LOVE.
Boys are sodomised from the time they crawl. The sight of a bare bottom
arouses the muslim who bows 5 times/day to his pig allah who sanctioned
sodomising boys and animals is islamic. Right hymen-deflorer commenters?

Islamic schools lure African boys into begging, children trafficked to
work for the benefit of others. Those who lure them into servitude make $15
billion annually, according to the International Labor Organization. It's big
business in Senegal. In the capital of Dakar alone, at least 7,600 child
beggars work the streets, according to a study released in February by the ILO,
the United Nations Children's Fund and the World Bank. The children collect an
average of 300 African francs a day, just 72 cents, reaping their keepers $2
million a year.Most of the boys 90 percent, the study found are sent out to
beg under the cover of Islam, placing the problem at the complicated
intersection of greed and tradition. For among the cruelest facts of Coli's
life is that he was not stolen from his family. He was brought to Dakar with
their blessing to learn Islam's holy book. In the name of religion, Coli spent
two hours a day memorizing verses from the Quran and over nine hours begging to
pad the pockets of the man he called his teacher. It was getting dark. Coli had
less than half the 72 cents he was told to bring back. He was afraid. He knew
what happened to children who failed to meet their daily quotas. They were
stripped and doused in cold water. The older boys picked them up like hammocks
by their ankles and wrists. Then the teacher whipped them with an electrical
cord until the cord ate their skin. Coli's head hurt with hunger. He could
already feel the slice of the wire on his back. So while the nutjobs talk of
reforming islam, and the dimwits of the West bury their head in the sand and
chime "islam is a religion of peace" while muslim mass murderers shrill allah
the merciful, the bountiful, allahu akhbar.

[proletar] NIGERIA: Christian pastor and wife burned to death by Muslims

Posted: April 17, 2010 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed under: Persecution of 
Christians |19 Comments »
Lihat foto dan videonya di 
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/04/17/nigeria-christian-pastor-and-wife-burned-to-death-by-muslims/

This follows the murders and burnings of hundreds of other Nigerian Christians 
by Muslims in recent months.

KANO, Nigeria (AFP)  Sectarian tension is rising in a Muslim-dominated 
northern Nigeria state following the murder of a pastor and his wife as 
Christians call for revenge, residents and officials said.

The couple were allegedly abducted and killed by some Muslims in Boto village 
in Bauchi State, they said.

The burnt bodies of the pentecostal pastor, Ishaya Kadah, and his wife, Selina, 
were discovered on Thursday by the police in the village, located in the 
predominantly Christian Tafawa Balewa district, two days after they were 
kidnapped, they added.

"It is quite tense here since the burnt corpses of pastor Ishaya and his wife 
were discovered yesterday (Thursday), with his flock calling for revenge. We 
don't know what is going to happen," Boto resident Bitrus Kagama said.

"The pastor and his wife were found missing and their bodies later discovered 
in the bush," Kagama said.

"We received a report on Tuesday that a pastor and his wife were missing and a 
search team discovered the bodies two days later", Bauchi State police 
commissioner Danlami Yar'Adua told AFP on phone from the state capital, Bauchi.

"We have arrested two suspects and we are still looking for four other suspects 
in connection with the murder. We are on top of the situation," Yar'Adua said. 
Tafawa Balewa, which has a history of Christian-Muslim violence, is on the 
border with Plateau State, which has been rocked by sectarian violence in the 
last six years that has left hundreds dead.

Boto is home to more than 100 Muslims displaced by the sectarian violence in 
Jos, capital of Plateau State, in January which the police said left 326 
dead.YAHOO NEWS

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[proletar] SAUDI GIRLS GONE WILD!

Cewek Saudi merevolusi dengan pose gila2an melalui internet. Dimana sekarang 
moralitas Islam???
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/saudi-girls-gone-wild/
Posted: January 17, 2009 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed under: Laughing at 
Islam, Women |362 Comments »
Rebelling against strict fundamentalist customs and traditions, Saudi girls 
take to "web stripping" in the face of endless social prohibitions.

According to one Saudi commentator, "The further she goes (with web stripping), 
the more admiration she harvests."Well, no shi'ite Sherlock!





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[proletar] FOTO ANAK 9 THN DIPOTONG KEPALANYA DI THAILAND OLEH PENGIKUT ALLAH

http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/thailand-muslims-behead-a-9-year-old-boy-warning-graphic-images/
THAILAND: Muslims behead a 9-year-old boy (WARNING: Graphic Images)
Posted: May 9, 2011 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed under: Beheadings 
(GRAPHIC) |505 Comments »
Then they hanged or beheaded the rest of his family. Yet another example of 
Muslim on Buddhist violence in a country where Muslims are only a small 
minority.





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[proletar] FOTO2 ANAK 12 tahun DIPOTONG KEPALANYA OLEH PENGIKUT ALLAH

12-YEAR OLD TALIBAN BOY'S FIRST BEHEADING (WARNING: Extremely graphic images)
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/12-year-old-taliban-boys-first-beheading-warning-extremely-graphic-images/

Posted: August 13, 2009 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed under: Beheadings 
(GRAPHIC) |867 Comments »
Initiation into the Taliban starts early, in this case a 12-year old boy is 
being coached in the finer points of beheading. It takes him a while to saw 
through the head but notice the pride in his face when he finally holds up the 
severed head. What a future he has!
This video is more gruesome than most, primarily because of the tender age of 
the beheader. PLEASE DO NOT VIEW VIDEO IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH.

CLICK HERE TO SEE VIDEO: 12-YEAR-OLD TALIBAN BEHEADING





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[proletar] Islams rules for having SEX WITH ANIMALS

Aturannya, boleh, tapi setelah itu hewannya langsung harus dibunuh dan dibakar. 
Lihat video dan ayat2nya. 
 
Posted: June 13, 2009 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed under: Laughing at Islam 
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Don't let them deny it, it's right there in the holy books.

But the rules about sex with animals apply to males only. In most Muslim 
countries, a woman must be executed for fornicating with any animal, even if 
it's a pet. Figures! 

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[proletar] BELGIUM: Hundreds of Muslims riot at beach area, then savagely attack police

Posted: October 16, 2011 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed under: Islamization 
of the West |3 Comments »
>From a Belgian Crimestoppers program, police are asking for help in 
>identifying the Muslim attackers from Brussels who were at this beach at 
>Hofstade.

Islam vs Europe Hofstade is a natural lake where families can go swimming and 
play tennis. But in the last few years, North African Muslim youths, mostly 
from Morocco, have made it a dangerous place. It has gotten so bad, that all 
buses into the area must be accompanied by police escort.

At this particular incident, some 200  300 Muslim thugs started fighting and 
security called for help from the police. Eight police arrived and were 
bombarded with bottles, rocks, cans, and other projectiles. According to the 
story, some 60  70 officers came to the scene, yet order was not 
re-established until after the police left . Only one arrest was made.

(So now they have to for help from the public in identifying the attackers? 
Wheat kind of police department is that?  Apparently one that is not armed. 
Sheeesh)





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[proletar] Destruction of Copts is Islamically Correct

Caranya Islam menangani minoritas dan aliran lain seperti kristen Koptik Mesir 
memang demikian dari sejarah. Itu cara khas ISLAM. Sekarang kita tahu beda 
"agama" yang satu ini.   

http://www.wnd.com

I am looking at a reproduction of an old engraving of Jerusalem's Church of the 
Holy Sepulcher. It is in Bat Ye'or's book "The Dhimmi," which collects primary 
documents from history to chronicle the impact of Islamic law on non-Muslims 
through the centuries. 

What is notable about the image, which is based on an 1856 photograph, is that 
the church, said to be at the site of Jesus Christ's crucifixion and burial, 
has no cross and no belfry. Stripped of its Christian symbols, the church stood 
in compliance with the Islamic law and traditions of the Ottoman (Turkish) 
Empire, which ruled Jerusalem at the time. 

I went back to the book to find this image for a reason. It had to do with last 
weekend's massacre of two dozen Coptic Christians in Cairo by Egyptian military 
and street mobs, which also left hundreds wounded. 

The unarmed Copts were protesting the destruction of yet another church in 
Egypt, St. George's, which on Sept. 30 was set upon by thousands of Muslim men 
following Friday prayers. Why? The trigger was repair work on the building  
work that the local council and governor had approved. 

Does that explanation make any sense? Not to anyone ignorant of Islamic law. 
Unfortunately, that criterion includes virtually all media reporting the story. 

Raymond Ibrahim, an Islam specialist, Arabic speaker and author of "The Al 
Qaeda Reader" (Broadway, 2007), catalogs the key sequence of events that turned 
a church renovation project into terror and flames. With repair work in 
progress, he writes online at Hudson New York (www.hudson-ny.org), "It was not 
long before local Muslims began complaining, making various demands, including 
that the church be devoid of crosses and bells  even though the permit 
approved them  citing that 'the cross irritates Muslims and their children.'" 

Those details drove me to re-examine the de-Christianized 19th-century image of 
the Church of the Holy Sepulcher  no cross, no bells. It becomes a revealing 
illustration of Islamic history repeating itself in this "Shariah Autumn," the 
deadly but natural harvest of the grotesquely branded "Arab Spring." 

Given our see-no-Shariah media (and government), we have no context in which to 
place such events. That context is Shariah society, advanced (but by no means 
initiated) by "Arab Spring," where non-Muslims  "dhimmi"  occupy a place 
defined for them by Islamic law and tradition. 

Theologian, author and Anglican pastor Mark Durie elaborates at markdurie.com: 
"Dhimmi are permitted to live in an Islamic state under terms of surrender as 
laid out in the 'dhimma' pact." Such terms, Durie writes, "are a 
well-established part of Islamic law and can be found laid out in countless 
legal text books." When non-Muslims violate these terms, they become subject to 
attack. 

To place the dhimmi pact in comparable Western terms is to say the West has its 
Magna Carta, Islam has its Pact of Umar. Among other things, this seminal pact 
governing Muslim and non-Muslims relations stipulates, Durie notes, the 
condition that Christians "will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church 
or sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs 
restoration." 

Thus, this anti-Coptic violence, which for the moment has caught world 
attention, is Islamically correct. This is the piece of the puzzle Westerners 
fail to grasp. But Durie takes us through the theological steps: "For some 
pious Muslims in Egypt today, the act of repairing a church is a flagrant 
provocation, a breach of the peace, which amounts to a deliberate revocation of 
one's right to exist in the land." As such, it "becomes a legitimate topic for 
sermons in the mosque (where) the faithful are urged ... to uphold the honor of 
Islam." 

In Islamic terms, then, the destruction of the church is no injustice, as Durie 
writes. It is "even a duty to destroy the church and even the lives of 
Christians who have the temerity to repair their churches." That's because 
dhimmi who take to the streets to protest the Islamically just destruction of 
the church "are also rebels who have forfeited their rights (under the pact) to 
'safety and protection.'" As violators of the "dhimmi" pact, they become fair 
game. 

It's quite simple, but the theology eludes us. Why? I think the answer is that 
to expose the facts about Shariah in the Western milieu is to invite their 
criticism. Such criticism is forbidden under Shariah. So, we remain silent  
which is what good "dhimmi" do.





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[proletar] BERPIKIR KOSMIK Re: ALIEN SPECIES

Gini ya broer. Aku memerhatikan dunia dan alam semesta. Aku menyaring ribuan 
informasi dengan menggunakan milist, feeds dan readers setiap hari selama 
bertahun-tahun, dari semua aspek dan segi kehidupan, relijius maupun sekuler, 
misteri maupun sehari-hari, penelitian ilmiah, buku, pengalaman dan opini semua 
kubaca. Propaganda setiap agama dan aliran kubaca. Akhirnya aku menyimpulkan 
misalnya bahwa Tuhan itu ada, tentang Isa yang benar dan terbukti, dan tentang 
alien jahat vs alien baik, asal usul Islam, Jesus dan Jibril itu alien, Yahweh 
itu alien drakula, dll dll yg kalian anggap gila. 

Kebenaran tidak bisa ditutupi, sebab semua di alam ini ada garis besar dan 
benang merahnya.  

Kehidupan cerdas ini pasti ada sebabnya. Pasti ada dalangnya. Maka aku 
memandang dari atas, jika AKU adalah oknum2 yang kalian sebut TUHAN. Maka aku 
berkesimpulan misalnya Allah itu alien jahat yang menguasai bumi sebagai 
tempatnya mencari makan dari energi nyawa kurban manusia dan hewan. Manusia 
adalah hewan piaraannya untuk nanti dikurbankan dan dimakannya, karena alien 
Allah ini terputus dari sumber energi kosmik sehingga perlu makan. Bulan2 depan 
adalah Idul Adha, upacara yg sebenarnya memberi makan Allah dgn nyawa binatang. 

Hati-hati alien jahat ini. 

Pengamatan dan penyaringan dan pemerhatian informasi akan aku lakukan terus dan 
aku posting di sini.  
 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
>
> Aki aki yang terobsesi sama alien nih
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "pemerhatidunia" 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:29:39 
> To: 
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] ALIEN SPECIES
> 
> Pengalaman orang banyak bertemu aliens didokumentasikan. Usul: Yang kurang 
> adalah pengalaman Muhammad ketika di Gua Hira dan ketika menerima wahyu 
> seperti dalam ayat2 pembukaan hadits. katanya sering didatangi "Jibril" yg 
> adalah pasti alien. Alien dalam sejarah dunia banyak menemui orang, yang 
> kemudian membuat agama dan aliran baru. Sebut saja di Bible, Musa ketika 
> bertemu "Tuhan" di gunung Horeb, menyala dalam api. Bangsa israel dipimpin 
> alien keluar dari Mesir, dalam tiang awan dan api. Jeremiah dan Isaiah juga 
> pernah bertemu "Tuhan" yg jelas alien. Muhammad juga. Celakanya, memang 
> aliens punya agenda mereka, dan mereka (yang jahat) pintar membuat agama yang 
> mencuci otak dan mengendalikan manusia menjadi penjahat, seperti Islam. Islam 
> itu adalah sistem agama buatan alien bernama "ALLAH" atau "ELOHIM" 
> 
> Planet ini ada dalam zona perang antara dua kelompok alien, jahat dan baik. 
> 
> Jadi ini real bung!! ini bukan mainan kita, tetapi permainan kelas tinggi 
> untuk menguasai dan mengendalikan planet ini demi kepentingan ALIEN. 
> 
> http://www.maar.us/alien_species.html
> Alien Species
> 
> Use menu below to read about various alien species. If you have had an 
> experience with another species besides what's listed, please email us here 
> and let us know. Also look in the sub categories to see if it's listed
> 
> "In any case, the Air Force has arrived to the conclusion that a certain 
> number of anomalous phenomena has been produced within Belgian airspace. The 
> numerous testimonies of ground observations compiled in this [SOBEPS] book, 
> reinforced by the reports of the night of March 30-31 [1990], have led us to 
> face the hypothesis that a certain number of unauthorized aerial activities 
> have taken place. Until now, not a single trace of aggressiveness has been 
> signaled; military or civilian air traffic has not been perturbed nor 
> threatened. We can therefore advance that the presumed activities do not 
> constitute a direct menace." "The day will come undoubtedly when the 
> phenomenon will be observed with technological means of detection and 
> collection that won't leave a single doubt about its origin. This should lift 
> a part of the veil that has covered the mystery for a long time. A mystery 
> that continues to the present. But it exists, it is real, and that in itself 
> is an important conclusion."
> 
> -Major-General Wilfred de Brouwer, Deputy Chief, Royal Belgian Air Force, 
> "Postface" in SOBEPS' Vague d'OVNI sur la Belgique - Un Dossier Exceptionnel, 
> Brussels: SOBEPS, 1991.
> Alien Species Adamic / Evadamic Hybrids   Alpha Centaurians   
> Altairians   Andromedains
> AntarieansArcturians  Blues / Greens  Browns / Greys
> Cassiopaeans  Draconian ReptiliansELs or EL Hybrids   Hybrids / Mixed 
> Species
> Hydra Reptilians  Iguaniods   Insectiods / Mantas Lacertian 
> Reptilians
> Lemurian Hybrids   Luciferi

[proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

Dan mungkin sekali ALLAH itu memang DEWI BULAN (moon goddess), dari simbolnya 
bulan bintang, ALLAH itu adalah ALIEN YANG BERMARKAS DI BULAN menjajah bumi 
dengan ideologi dan tipu menipu iming2 syurga ranjang berjejer ranjang otopsi 
dan robot biologis sexy houris di mothership UFO itu 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Minggu siang ini, masjid menyiarkan keras suara kelompok pengajian perempuan 
> menyanyi. 
> 
> Mereka tidak tahu, bahwa kalau Islam lebih diterapkan di Indonesia, maka hak 
> asasi perempuan yang akan langsung dipotong dan mereka ditindas dan dianiaya. 
> sebagaimana terbukti dimana2 ketika Syariah Islam ditegakkan. Mereka boleh 
> dipoligami, keluar rumah saja tidak boleh tanpa dikawal lelaki, dst dst ciri 
> khas ISLAM sistem bikinan ALLAH yang benci banget sama kecantikan perempuan. 
> 
> Kurasa karena ALLAH itu perempuan, karena "ALLAH" itu memang nama perempuan.  
>  
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "muskitawati"  wrote:
> >
> > Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!
> >  
> > Emansipasi muslimah adalah tuntutan wanita Islam dalam memilih maupun 
> > memutuskan yang terbaik bagi dirinya tanpa adanya paksaan, ancaman, maupun 
> > hukuman yang bisa dikenakan kepada dirinya.
> > 
> > Masalah baik buruknya keputusan si wanita Islam dalam memilih atau 
> > memutuskan yang terbaik bagi dirinya itu, tidak boleh dijadikan alasan 
> > untuk melarang, membungkam, atau membatalkan keputusan si wanita Islam tsb 
> > oleh orang2 diluar dirinya.
> > 
> > Emansipasi muslimah meletakkan tanggung jawab dirinya diatas tanggung 
> > jawabnya sendiri bukan menjadi tanggung jawab ulamanya atau saudara 
> > laki2nya ataupun bapaknya.
> > 
> > Kita tahu, bencana dunia wanita sebagai korban2 Taliban, jutaan wanita yang 
> > dibunuhnya secara keji hanya karena dianggap melanggar perintah2 agama 
> > Islam yang tidak pernah dipilihnya.  Tapi sekarang Taliban sudah dicabut 
> > legitimasinya dari muka bumi ini dan mereka hanya bergerak sebagai terorist 
> > buta yang mengambil korban siapapun yang berada didekatnya.
> > 
> > > Wal Suparmo  wrote:
> > > Wanita yang dengan sadar masuk Islam
> > > adalah IKHLAS dan RELA menjalankan 
> > > fitrahnya sebagaiÂ  makhluk klas 2
> > > ciptaan Allah. Dan tidak pernah 
> > > mempersialkannya karenaÂ  menunggu
> > > dinaikkan derajatnya oleh Islam Yang 
> > > penting, pokoknya bisa masuk surga.
> > 
> > Memang pada mulanya para ulama Islam menyanggahnya seperti diatas, yaitu 
> > sudah keikhlasan kaum wanitanya sehingga orang lain diluar Islam tidak 
> > boleh mencampurinya.
> > 
> > Ternyata kenyataannya tidaklah demikian, hukuman mati terhadap TK di Arab 
> > Saudia telah mengundang perhatian dunia yang diminta menolong wanita2 yang 
> > jadi korban Syariah Islam ini untuk membatalkan hukuman matinya karena 
> > selain melanggar HAM juga melanggar hukum Internasional tentang kekebalan 
> > diplomatik orang asing meskipun dipekerjakan sebagai budak2 disana.
> > 
> > Para muslimahpun tidak pernah diberi pilihan, dilahirkan dan hidup dalam 
> > lingkungan Islam telah membekukan dan membrainwash pikiran dan perasaannya 
> > tentang ada kemungkinan lain yang bisa jadi pilihannya.  Oleh karena itu, 
> > emansipasi wanita bukan memaksakan muslimah keluar dari Islam, melainkan 
> > membuka kesempatan bagi para muslimah untuk menjatuhkan pilihannya dalam 
> > memilih yang terbaik bagi dirinya tanpa harus ditakuti ajaran2 Allah yang 
> > tidak benar itu.
> > 
> > Jadi, emansipasi wanita itu membuka kesempatan bagi wanita Islam secara 
> > se-luas2nya untuk menempatkan dirinya dimanapun yang dia sukai atau yang 
> > diingini tanpa harus meminta persetujuan kaum laki2, suami, ayah, atau imam 
> > dimesjid.  Baik buruknya pilihan tsb hanya ditentukan oleh si wanita tsb 
> > yang tidak boleh dipaksa atau dipengaruhi oleh pihak2 lain diluar dirinya 
> > apalagi memaksakannya.
> > 
> > Wanita Islam yang memilih nyetir mobil sendiri tanpa dikawal keluarga 
> > laki2, suami, ayah, atau ulamanya, harus dilindungi, harus dihormati bukan 
> > ditangkap dan dihukum.
> > 
> > Bahkan wanita Islam yang memilih untuk berzinah sekalipun tetap harus 
> > dilindungi pilihannya, tidak seorangpun termasuk suaminya berhak 
> > menghukumnya, biarkanlah Allah yang menghukumnya nanti setelah mati 
> > diakhirat.
> > 
> > Dunia Islam sekarang sedang bergolak, yaitu bergolak melepaskan diri dari 
> > pembelengguan ulaman

[proletar] Re: Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!

Minggu siang ini, masjid menyiarkan keras suara kelompok pengajian perempuan 
menyanyi. 

Mereka tidak tahu, bahwa kalau Islam lebih diterapkan di Indonesia, maka hak 
asasi perempuan yang akan langsung dipotong dan mereka ditindas dan dianiaya. 
sebagaimana terbukti dimana2 ketika Syariah Islam ditegakkan. Mereka boleh 
dipoligami, keluar rumah saja tidak boleh tanpa dikawal lelaki, dst dst ciri 
khas ISLAM sistem bikinan ALLAH yang benci banget sama kecantikan perempuan. 

Kurasa karena ALLAH itu perempuan, karena "ALLAH" itu memang nama perempuan.   


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "muskitawati"  wrote:
>
> Membebaskan Muslimah Dari Ancaman Agamanya Sendiri !!!
>  
> Emansipasi muslimah adalah tuntutan wanita Islam dalam memilih maupun 
> memutuskan yang terbaik bagi dirinya tanpa adanya paksaan, ancaman, maupun 
> hukuman yang bisa dikenakan kepada dirinya.
> 
> Masalah baik buruknya keputusan si wanita Islam dalam memilih atau memutuskan 
> yang terbaik bagi dirinya itu, tidak boleh dijadikan alasan untuk melarang, 
> membungkam, atau membatalkan keputusan si wanita Islam tsb oleh orang2 diluar 
> dirinya.
> 
> Emansipasi muslimah meletakkan tanggung jawab dirinya diatas tanggung 
> jawabnya sendiri bukan menjadi tanggung jawab ulamanya atau saudara laki2nya 
> ataupun bapaknya.
> 
> Kita tahu, bencana dunia wanita sebagai korban2 Taliban, jutaan wanita yang 
> dibunuhnya secara keji hanya karena dianggap melanggar perintah2 agama Islam 
> yang tidak pernah dipilihnya.  Tapi sekarang Taliban sudah dicabut 
> legitimasinya dari muka bumi ini dan mereka hanya bergerak sebagai terorist 
> buta yang mengambil korban siapapun yang berada didekatnya.
> 
> > Wal Suparmo  wrote:
> > Wanita yang dengan sadar masuk Islam
> > adalah IKHLAS dan RELA menjalankan 
> > fitrahnya sebagaiÂ  makhluk klas 2
> > ciptaan Allah. Dan tidak pernah 
> > mempersialkannya karenaÂ  menunggu
> > dinaikkan derajatnya oleh Islam Yang 
> > penting, pokoknya bisa masuk surga.
> 
> Memang pada mulanya para ulama Islam menyanggahnya seperti diatas, yaitu 
> sudah keikhlasan kaum wanitanya sehingga orang lain diluar Islam tidak boleh 
> mencampurinya.
> 
> Ternyata kenyataannya tidaklah demikian, hukuman mati terhadap TK di Arab 
> Saudia telah mengundang perhatian dunia yang diminta menolong wanita2 yang 
> jadi korban Syariah Islam ini untuk membatalkan hukuman matinya karena selain 
> melanggar HAM juga melanggar hukum Internasional tentang kekebalan diplomatik 
> orang asing meskipun dipekerjakan sebagai budak2 disana.
> 
> Para muslimahpun tidak pernah diberi pilihan, dilahirkan dan hidup dalam 
> lingkungan Islam telah membekukan dan membrainwash pikiran dan perasaannya 
> tentang ada kemungkinan lain yang bisa jadi pilihannya.  Oleh karena itu, 
> emansipasi wanita bukan memaksakan muslimah keluar dari Islam, melainkan 
> membuka kesempatan bagi para muslimah untuk menjatuhkan pilihannya dalam 
> memilih yang terbaik bagi dirinya tanpa harus ditakuti ajaran2 Allah yang 
> tidak benar itu.
> 
> Jadi, emansipasi wanita itu membuka kesempatan bagi wanita Islam secara 
> se-luas2nya untuk menempatkan dirinya dimanapun yang dia sukai atau yang 
> diingini tanpa harus meminta persetujuan kaum laki2, suami, ayah, atau imam 
> dimesjid.  Baik buruknya pilihan tsb hanya ditentukan oleh si wanita tsb yang 
> tidak boleh dipaksa atau dipengaruhi oleh pihak2 lain diluar dirinya apalagi 
> memaksakannya.
> 
> Wanita Islam yang memilih nyetir mobil sendiri tanpa dikawal keluarga laki2, 
> suami, ayah, atau ulamanya, harus dilindungi, harus dihormati bukan ditangkap 
> dan dihukum.
> 
> Bahkan wanita Islam yang memilih untuk berzinah sekalipun tetap harus 
> dilindungi pilihannya, tidak seorangpun termasuk suaminya berhak 
> menghukumnya, biarkanlah Allah yang menghukumnya nanti setelah mati diakhirat.
> 
> Dunia Islam sekarang sedang bergolak, yaitu bergolak melepaskan diri dari 
> pembelengguan ulamanya yang mencatut nama Allah, Islam dan AlQurannya untuk 
> melindungi vested interest-nya sendiri yang makin terancam dengan 
> berkembangnya teknologi dan science.
> 
> Kalo dulu kaum muslimin bergantung kepada ulamanya, namun dizaman sekarang 
> umat Islam atau kaum muslimin menggantungkan diri nafkah dan masa depannya 
> kepada pekerjaan sehingga penjara2 religious yang dibangun para ulama ini 
> makin banyak mengalami kehancurannya.  Pada detik ini, muslimin diseluruh 
> dunia berada dalam masa transisi kehidupan agamanya dalam menumbangkan 
> penjara2 religious yang tidak pernah membuka lapangan pekerjaan yang bisa 
> menyediakan nafkah mereka maupun masa depan mereka.
> 
> Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati.
>






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[proletar] Re: Allah Bukanlah God, Jangan Disamakan !!!

Terjemahan Bible, setahuku: 

Yahweh menjadi TUHAN  (huruf besar semua) itu adalah nama pribadi seperti item 
abu, proteus, muskie sayangku, dll 

Elohim atau God diterjemahkan menjadi Allah (besar kecil), nama generik. "El" 
menjadi "Al". Eloah menjadi Allah.  

Allah itu bukan dari kata al-ilah. 

Ada yang bilang ALLAH dari kata Alaha (bahasa Aram induk bahasa Arab)




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "muskitawati"  wrote:
>
> Allah Bukanlah God, Jangan Disamakan !!!
>   
> Presiden Bush dalam pembukaan pidatonya pada pembentukan barisan "war on 
> terror" memerangi teroris jihad Islam, menyatakan bahwa "Allah" bukanlah God 
> dan ini ditunjang dengan rujukannya ke kalimat Syahadat yang menjadi 
> kewajiban setiap umat Islam untuk mengucapkannya setiap harinya, " tiada 
> Tuhan selain Allah...", yang artinya Tuhan tidak ada, yang artinya tidak 
> mempercayai adanya Tuhan, hanya mempercayai adanya Allah bukan Tuhan.
> 
> Jadi kalo di Indonesia diterjemahkan secara salah bahwa Allah itu disamakan 
> dengan Tuhan, maksudnya untuk mengecoh, menjebak, dan menipu umat yang bukan 
> Islam yang waktu itu masih mayoritas didominasi oleh pemeluk2 Hindu ini, agar 
> mereka beralih mempercayai agama Islam menggantikan agama mereka.
> 
> Jadi pemerintah Malaysia melarang pemakaian nama Allah dalam semua agama yang 
> bukan Islam adalah tepat dan harus dicontoh oleh pemerintah di Indonesia.
> 
> > Bing Petri  wrote:
> > Tindakan yang justru membuat citra
> > Islam itu menjadi buruk. Menurut
> > saya, pendapat ulama dan sikap
> > pemerintah Malaysia itu adalah
> > salah satu contoh tindakan goblok.
> 
> Sebenarnya tindakan pemerintah Malaysia itu justru paling tepat, paling 
> benar, dan memang demikianlah yang menjadi kenyataan.
> 
> Anda mau akui atau menyangkalnya tidak merubah kenyataan bahwa kata "Allah" 
> memang hanya ada dalam bahasa Arab, dan juga merupakan pusat yang disembah 
> umat Islam.
> 
> Jadi sebagai kenyataan yang tidak bisa disangkal, ternyata dalam kalimat 
> shadat juga dikatakan, "tiada Tuhan selain Allah", cukup jelas khan artinya 
> bahwa Islam menolak adanya Tuhan, hanya Allah yang disembah dalam Islam.
> 
> Urusan orang2 Nasrani di Indonesia mengganti kata Tuhan menjadi Allah 
> bukanlah asalnya dari Kristen, melainkan asalnya dari Departement Agama yang 
> memaksa organisasi2 Kristen untuk mengganti kata2 Tuhan ini menjadi Allah 
> dengan maksud nantinya terjadi hubungan sambung menyambung antara Islam dan 
> Nasrani sehingga memudahkan umat Nasrani untuk pindah dan masuk Islam.
> 
> Begitulah, kalo anda baca bible dibawah tahun 1970 kebawah, tidak satupun 
> dalam bible ada kata2 Allah, mereka menyebutnya Tuhan bukan Allah, sama 
> dengan terjemahan dalam bible berbahasa Inggris tidak menggunakan Allah 
> tetapi "God".
> 
> Munculnya dominasi Islam yang menguasai pemerintahan di Indonesia semenjak 
> penumpasan G30S telah mendorong menteri Agama untuk melarang bible2 yang 
> masih menggunakan kata Tuhan ini sehingga lembaga Alkitab Indonesia ini 
> mencetak ulang bible2nya dengan edisi baru dimana semua kata2 Tuhan diganti 
> dengan nama Allah.
> 
> Memang, cita2nya tadinya untuk mendorong umat Nasrani masuk Islam dengan 
> menceritakan bahwa sejarah keduanya berasal dari sumber yang sama namun bible 
> katanya telah terkontaminasi dengan cerita2 bohong dari setan sehingga umat 
> Kristen yang ingin mendalami ajaran Yesus yang sebenarnya dirujuk untuk 
> mempelajari AlQuran.
> 
> Demikianlah, cita2 cuma tinggal impian tidak pernah tercapai sehingga 
> digunakannya kata Allah dalam Bible bukan mendorong lebih banyak orang2 
> Kristen masuk Islam, sebaliknya jadi lebih banyak orang2 Islam yang pindah ke 
> agama Kristen dimana puncaknya ulama besar Islam yang bernama Jusuf mendadak 
> masuk Islam dan mengganti namanya jadi Jusuf Roni.  Pergolakan terjadi 
> sehingga Jusuf Roni karena merasa terancam pembunuhan oleh umat Islam di 
> Indonesia terpaksa meminta suaka politik di Amerika dan sekarang menjadi 
> pendeta di Amerika entah dimana dia menetapnya saya sendiri kurang jelas.
> 
> http://alt.nntp2http.com/comp/malaysia/2007/06/d7381fd2e2ea231eac41652a8b4f5b30.html
> 
> Demi keamanannya, Jusuf Roni yang sangat terkenal dikalangan umat Islam 
> tadinya, sekarang se-olah2 hilang sementara dikalangan Kristen sendiri diapun 
> tidak terkenal hanya ada yang menyatakan dia menjadi pendeta Kristen di 
> Amerika.  Ini adalah pukulan hebat yang memalukan dan menimbulkan luka dendam 
> dihati umat Islam di indonesia.  Jadi silahkan para pembaca membaca sendiri 
> riwayat ulama besar Islam dari Indonesia yang terpaksa keluar dari Indonesia 
> mendapatkan asylum di Amerika untuk menghindari pembunuhan umat Islam yang 
> juga bekas umat beliau di Indonesia.
> 
> Berita besar yang merupakan pukulan bagi umat Islam di Indonesia betul2 
> dikubur berita2nya hingga sekarang untuk keselamatan Jusuf Roni sendiri dan 
> juga untuk menghindari konflik berdarah antara Isl

[proletar] YAHWEH ALIEN BAJINGAN Re: ALIEN UFO BERNAMA ELOHIM (ELOAH==ALLAH)



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Rael itu ada. Alirannya ada. Webnya ada. Pengikutnya banyak. Ceritanya dengan 
> alien YAHWEH juga ada diceritakan dan divideokan.  
> 
> Jadi kalian pikir masih bisa menipu manusia dengan berkedok nama YAHWEH dewa 
> bangsat yang doyan tumbal sajen nyawa dan darah itu??? 
> 
> Hadapi dulu PEMDUN. 
> 
> MANA YAHWEH BANGSAT ITU  suruh kesini jilat kakiku !!!
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
> >
> > Elo ama si pemdun sama sama goblognya tem
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: item abu 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 04:51:03 
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] ALIEN UFO BERNAMA ELOHIM (ELOAH==ALLAH)
> > 
> > Lu ini gobloknya emang ga kira2, tukang berkhayal.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >From: pemerhatidunia 
> > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:42 AM
> > >Subject: [proletar] ALIEN UFO BERNAMA ELOHIM (ELOAH==ALLAH)
> > >
> > >
> > >Â  
> > >Sampai hari ini belum pernah kubaca ada orang masuk syurga memakai 
> > >sistemnya ALLAH. Muhammad sendiri tidak ada buktinya ada di syurga. Tidak 
> > >ada buktinya ia hidup setelah mati. 
> > >
> > >Semua tatacara sholat haji dll dll itu omong kosong. 
> > >
> > >Yg pernah mengalami pengalaman mirip Muhammad dalam Quran (syurga ranjang 
> > >berjejer dilayani bidadari dan air sungai susu madu) adalah pengalaman 
> > >orang bernama RAEL, ia mendirikan aliran Raelian, setelah diculik oleh UFO 
> > >bernama ELOHIM alias YAHWEH. 
> > >
> > >Rael dibawa dalam UFO mothershipnya YAHWEH, disana ia dilayani oleh robot 
> > >sex perempuan. Ranjang berjejer itu adalah ranjang otopsi, dan aliran susu 
> > >madu itu pipa2 biasa yg di jaman Muhammad tentu itu keajaiban. 
> > >
> > >Elohim adalah nama jamak. Tunggalnya adalah ELOAH yang dalam bahasa Arab 
> > >adalah ALLAH. 
> > >
> > >Banyak aliran agama muncul setelah pertemuan dengan alien. Islam adalah 
> > >salah satunya. 
> > >
> > >Raelian Movement
> > >An Introduction to Raelians for Beginners
> > >
> > >By Catherine Beyer, About.com Guide
> > >See More About:
> > >
> > >raelians
> > >ufo cults
> > >aliens
> > >new religious movements
> > >controversial religions
> > >
> > >"Official Raelian symbol"
> > >
> > >Official Raelian Symbol, representing infinite time and space as well as 
> > >the Elohim
> > >Sponsored Links
> > >
> > >Is Jesus Really God?Discover the Evidence From Scholars About Jesus' 
> > >Claims to be GodY-Jesus.com
> > >
> > >Christ-The hunger for HimAnd the adoring of Him. Everything He can do for 
> > >Man and Woman.www.hallvworthington.com
> > >
> > >Your Zodiac HoroscopeInsert Your Birthdate & Get Answers about 
> > >Past-Present and Future. FreeAboutAstro.com/horoscope
> > >Alternative Religions Ads
> > >
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> > >
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> > >God Can Give You New LifeLearn From This True Life Story How God Can 
> > >Change Your Lifewww.LifesGreatestQuestion.com
> > >
> > >Is there a Hell?Free "Where Are The Dead?" Explains the Bible 
> > >Hellwww.bibletruthkeys.com
> > >
> > >The Raelian Movement is a new religious movement and atheistic religion 
> > >that denies the existence of true supernatural gods, believing instead 
> > >that various mythologies (particularly that of the Abrahamic God) are 
> > >based upon experiences with an alien race called the Elohim.
> > >
> > >Various religious prophets and founders such as the Buddha, Jesus, Moses, 
> > >etc. are also considered prophets of the Elohim, chosen and educated by 
> > >the Elohim to reveal their message to humanity in stages.
> > >
> > >Origins
> > >On December 13, 1973, Claude Vorilhon experienced an alien abduction by 
> > >the Elohim, who renamed him Rael and instructed him to act as their 
> > >prophet.

[proletar] Re: ALIEN UFO BERNAMA ELOHIM (ELOAH==ALLAH)

Rael itu ada. Alirannya ada. Webnya ada. Pengikutnya banyak. Ceritanya dengan 
alien YAHWEH juga ada diceritakan dan divideokan.  

Jadi kalian pikir masih bisa menipu manusia dengan berkedok nama YAHWEH dewa 
bangsat yang doyan tumbal sajen nyawa dan darah itu??? 

Hadapi dulu PEMDUN. 

MANA YAHWEH BANGSAT ITU  suruh kesini jilat kakiku !!!


  

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Roman Proteus"  wrote:
>
> Elo ama si pemdun sama sama goblognya tem
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: item abu 
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 04:51:03 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [proletar] ALIEN UFO BERNAMA ELOHIM (ELOAH==ALLAH)
> 
> Lu ini gobloknya emang ga kira2, tukang berkhayal.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >From: pemerhatidunia 
> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:42 AM
> >Subject: [proletar] ALIEN UFO BERNAMA ELOHIM (ELOAH==ALLAH)
> >
> >
> >Â  
> >Sampai hari ini belum pernah kubaca ada orang masuk syurga memakai sistemnya 
> >ALLAH. Muhammad sendiri tidak ada buktinya ada di syurga. Tidak ada buktinya 
> >ia hidup setelah mati. 
> >
> >Semua tatacara sholat haji dll dll itu omong kosong. 
> >
> >Yg pernah mengalami pengalaman mirip Muhammad dalam Quran (syurga ranjang 
> >berjejer dilayani bidadari dan air sungai susu madu) adalah pengalaman orang 
> >bernama RAEL, ia mendirikan aliran Raelian, setelah diculik oleh UFO bernama 
> >ELOHIM alias YAHWEH. 
> >
> >Rael dibawa dalam UFO mothershipnya YAHWEH, disana ia dilayani oleh robot 
> >sex perempuan. Ranjang berjejer itu adalah ranjang otopsi, dan aliran susu 
> >madu itu pipa2 biasa yg di jaman Muhammad tentu itu keajaiban. 
> >
> >Elohim adalah nama jamak. Tunggalnya adalah ELOAH yang dalam bahasa Arab 
> >adalah ALLAH. 
> >
> >Banyak aliran agama muncul setelah pertemuan dengan alien. Islam adalah 
> >salah satunya. 
> >
> >Raelian Movement
> >An Introduction to Raelians for Beginners
> >
> >By Catherine Beyer, About.com Guide
> >See More About:
> >
> >raelians
> >ufo cults
> >aliens
> >new religious movements
> >controversial religions
> >
> >"Official Raelian symbol"
> >
> >Official Raelian Symbol, representing infinite time and space as well as the 
> >Elohim
> >Sponsored Links
> >
> >Is Jesus Really God?Discover the Evidence From Scholars About Jesus' Claims 
> >to be GodY-Jesus.com
> >
> >Christ-The hunger for HimAnd the adoring of Him. Everything He can do for 
> >Man and Woman.www.hallvworthington.com
> >
> >Your Zodiac HoroscopeInsert Your Birthdate & Get Answers about Past-Present 
> >and Future. FreeAboutAstro.com/horoscope
> >Alternative Religions Ads
> >
> >Holidays
> >Religion
> >Raelian Movement
> >Rael Player
> >Engel Elohim
> >
> >Sponsored Links
> >
> >God Can Give You New LifeLearn From This True Life Story How God Can Change 
> >Your Lifewww.LifesGreatestQuestion.com
> >
> >Is there a Hell?Free "Where Are The Dead?" Explains the Bible 
> >Hellwww.bibletruthkeys.com
> >
> >The Raelian Movement is a new religious movement and atheistic religion that 
> >denies the existence of true supernatural gods, believing instead that 
> >various mythologies (particularly that of the Abrahamic God) are based upon 
> >experiences with an alien race called the Elohim.
> >
> >Various religious prophets and founders such as the Buddha, Jesus, Moses, 
> >etc. are also considered prophets of the Elohim, chosen and educated by the 
> >Elohim to reveal their message to humanity in stages.
> >
> >Origins
> >On December 13, 1973, Claude Vorilhon experienced an alien abduction by the 
> >Elohim, who renamed him Rael and instructed him to act as their prophet. 
> >Yahweh is the name of the specific Elohim with him Rael was in contact. He 
> >held his first public conference on his revelations on September 19, 1974.
> >
> >Basic Beliefs
> >Intelligent Design
> >Raelians disbelieve in evolution, believing that DNA naturally rejects 
> >mutations. They believe the Elohim planted all life on Earth 25,000 years 
> >ago through scientific processes. The Elohim were likewise created by 
> >another race, and one day humanity will do the same on some other planet.
> >
> >Read more: The Elohim - Creators of Humanity
> >
> >Immortality through Cloning
> >W

[proletar] Stunned by bloodshed, Egyptians torn over army

By SARAH EL DEEB, Associated Press
Saturday, October 15, 2011

Nasser Nasser / AP

FILE - In this Sunday, Oct. 9, 2011 file photo, Coptic Egyptian demonstrators, 
one carrying a wooden Christian cross, set on fire an army vehicle during 
cashes with Egyptian army soldiers following a demonstration in Cairo, Egypt. 
An army crackdown on a protest that killed more than 20 Christians has not only 
stunned Egyptians, it has left them with deeply torn feelings towards the force 
seen as the protector of the nation. Even supporters of the ruling military are 
grappling with the question of how the bloodshed could have happened.
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(10-15) 12:16 PDT CAIRO, Egypt (AP) --

An army crackdown on a protest that killed more than 20 Christians has not only 
stunned Egyptians, it has left them with deeply torn feelings toward the force 
seen as the protector of the nation. Even supporters of the ruling military are 
grappling with the question of how the bloodshed could have happened.

The deaths a week ago deepened mistrust of the military among the 
"revolutionary" sector, the politically active liberal and leftist activists 
who have been leading protests against the generals' rule for months. They have 
become increasingly vocal in calls for the army to step aside.

A broader sector of the public has been thrown into shocked confusion. Many 
Egyptians view the military as the last bastion of stability  a force "made up 
of our own sons," as many often say  and tend to trust it to handle the 
transition toward a democratic system. So images of army troops wildly running 
over protesters with armored vehicles have jolted them.

Some try to find excuses for the ruling junta or nervously defend it. 
Intertwined in the reaction are the religious tensions between Egypt's Muslim 
majority and Christian minority. The fact that victims were Christians has made 
some less sympathetic or more willing to forgive the army's actions.

Others have been so shocked they have joined the criticism.

"This was an awful failure," said Mohammed Othman, a former army officer who 
now works as a pharmacist. "I think the (generals) lost credit and now we are 
in the countdown for them to leave."

Othman said his confidence in the military was gone. He can't bring himself to 
believe the accusations by some that troops killed protesters intentionally, 
but the bloodshed proved to him that the generals are not equipped to run 
civilian affairs.

Moreover, he fears wider sectarian turmoil in Egypt. "I am too embarrassed to 
send condolences to my Christian friends," he said. "I personally need someone 
to give me condolences." Like others, he is now afraid to join protests, 
fearing chaos or violence by security forces.

The violence was the deadliest since the military took over Egypt following the 
Feb. 11 fall of President Hosni Mubarak  and was a stark contrast to the 
idealistic sense of Muslim-Christian unity that flourished during the 
anti-Mubarak uprising.

It began Sunday night when thousands of Christians demonstrated outside the 
state television building, protesting an attack on a church in southern Egypt. 
Army troops waded in, and armored personnel carriers barreled through the 
crowds. The violence killed 26 people, including at least 21 Christians, some 
crushed by vehicles or shot to death. State media said three soldiers were 
among the dead.

In the first official press conference after the violence, the military tried 
to exonerate itself, blaming the Christians and "hidden hands" for starting the 
violence, denying its troops shot any protesters or intentionally ran them 
over. Witnesses said soldiers started the melee. Videos showing soldiers 
beating and shooting into crowds and armored vehicles seeming to chase 
protesters cast doubt on the military's account.

The public seemed torn in every direction. Some accept the military's version. 
Many activists accuse the military of intentionally sparking the bloodshed  or 
at least exploiting it and the sectarian tensions  to scare Egyptians from 
protesting and to justify its hold on power. They say the bloody attack has 
derailed discussion of how to hold parliament elections due to begin on Nov. 28.

On Friday, a march through Cairo denouncing the military and demanding justice 
for victims came under a hail of rocks thrown by army supporters.

Some Muslim clerics have hiked criticism of Christians' demands for equal 
rights. Christians, mainly from the Coptic Orthodox Church, make up around 10 
percent of Egypt's population of 85 million.

Read more: 
http://www.sfgate.com/cg

[proletar] MESIR: Pembantaian Kristen Coptic

Yg begini hanya dilakukan di negeri ISLAM saja. Bahkan komunis China saja sudah 
tidak melakukannya. 
 

Egyptian state TV admits false reports of soldiers' deaths, used to incite 
Muslims against Copts

As the army plowed armored personnel carriers into the crowd of protesters, 
state television worked to incite Muslims to "protect the army" from the 
Christians, and mobs of Muslims took to the streets to attack anyone they 
suspected of being a Christian. The abuse was compounded even in death as death 
certificates were falsified with causes of death such as "cardiac arrest caused 
by fear."

Future aid to Egypt should be in jeopardy over the massacre and over these 
developments. Rewarding Egypt through inaction invites more of the same 
behavior. "Egypt state television admits to making up news over soldiers' 
deaths," by Manar Ammar for Bikya Masr, October 15:

CAIRO: Egypt's state television announced on Monday that there are no 
deaths among the military forces after previously reporting there were during 
the bloody Sunday clashes between the military and Coptic protesters, saying 
that it was the fault of the news presenter.

State TV, also known as Maspero, is under fire from rights activists for 
falsely reporting that the Coptic protesters attacked the military forces with 
weapons, which resulted in the death of at least three soldiers and the called 
on the Egyptian people to take to the street to help protect the armed forces.

"War is deceit."

The news, when reported on Sunday evening, agitated many Muslims, who took 
up arms and went to the streets of downtown, clashing with protesters, both 
Muslims and Coptic Christians, injuring dozens in the worst sectarian violence 
since the fall of ousted President Hosni Muabrak's regime.

State TV also reported that the protesters were armed and initiated the 
violence that killed the soldiers, which escalated the bloodshed late on Sunday.

The Copts who were marching and demanding justice for the burning of a 
house of worship in southern Egypt last week, were shot at by the military upon 
their arrival at the state TV building by the military.

Videos posted online show armored vehicles running over people, killing and 
injuring scores of them. Eyewitnesses told Bikyamasr.com at the protest that 
Copts were "not armed" and the army was "not provoked to attack."

International media outlets largely reported on Sunday night Cairo what 
state television was reporting.

That was the idea. They knew it would be picked up in the international press.
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[proletar] ALIEN SPECIES

Pengalaman orang banyak bertemu aliens didokumentasikan. Usul: Yang kurang 
adalah pengalaman Muhammad ketika di Gua Hira dan ketika menerima wahyu seperti 
dalam ayat2 pembukaan hadits. katanya sering didatangi "Jibril" yg adalah pasti 
alien. Alien dalam sejarah dunia banyak menemui orang, yang kemudian membuat 
agama dan aliran baru. Sebut saja di Bible, Musa ketika bertemu "Tuhan" di 
gunung Horeb, menyala dalam api. Bangsa israel dipimpin alien keluar dari 
Mesir, dalam tiang awan dan api. Jeremiah dan Isaiah juga pernah bertemu 
"Tuhan" yg jelas alien. Muhammad juga. Celakanya, memang aliens punya agenda 
mereka, dan mereka (yang jahat) pintar membuat agama yang mencuci otak dan 
mengendalikan manusia menjadi penjahat, seperti Islam. Islam itu adalah sistem 
agama buatan alien bernama "ALLAH" atau "ELOHIM" 

Planet ini ada dalam zona perang antara dua kelompok alien, jahat dan baik. 

Jadi ini real bung!! ini bukan mainan kita, tetapi permainan kelas tinggi untuk 
menguasai dan mengendalikan planet ini demi kepentingan ALIEN. 

http://www.maar.us/alien_species.html
Alien Species

Use menu below to read about various alien species. If you have had an 
experience with another species besides what's listed, please email us here and 
let us know. Also look in the sub categories to see if it's listed

"In any case, the Air Force has arrived to the conclusion that a certain number 
of anomalous phenomena has been produced within Belgian airspace. The numerous 
testimonies of ground observations compiled in this [SOBEPS] book, reinforced 
by the reports of the night of March 30-31 [1990], have led us to face the 
hypothesis that a certain number of unauthorized aerial activities have taken 
place. Until now, not a single trace of aggressiveness has been signaled; 
military or civilian air traffic has not been perturbed nor threatened. We can 
therefore advance that the presumed activities do not constitute a direct 
menace." "The day will come undoubtedly when the phenomenon will be observed 
with technological means of detection and collection that won't leave a single 
doubt about its origin. This should lift a part of the veil that has covered 
the mystery for a long time. A mystery that continues to the present. But it 
exists, it is real, and that in itself is an important conclusion."

-Major-General Wilfred de Brouwer, Deputy Chief, Royal Belgian Air Force, 
"Postface" in SOBEPS' Vague d'OVNI sur la Belgique - Un Dossier Exceptionnel, 
Brussels: SOBEPS, 1991.
Alien Species Adamic / Evadamic Hybrids Alpha Centaurians   
Altairians   Andromedains
Antarieans  Arcturians  Blues / Greens  Browns / Greys
CassiopaeansDraconian ReptiliansELs or EL Hybrids   Hybrids / Mixed 
Species
Hydra ReptiliansIguaniods   Insectiods / Mantas Lacertian 
Reptilians
Lemurian Hybrids LuciferiansLyrans  Martians
NeonatesNordics / Agathartians  Orions  Other Grey Species
 Pleiadans  RaeliansReptilians / ReptiodsSubterranean Reptilians
Serpentine  Reptilians  Sirius Beings   Sirius Reptilians   Son's of 
Darkness
Son's of Light  The AncientsUltratraterrestrialsUrantian
Vampuria Reptilians Vegans  Venusians   White Brotherhood of Light
Winged Draconians   Zeta Riticulans  
 

Miscellaneous Possibly Related Species ( Non alphabetized) 

 
Mothman / Mothmen   Bigfoot / Sasquatch Chupacabras Men in Black / 
MIB's
Abominable Snowman  AnunnakiNephilim / Nephilim Gypsies
MILABS  Military Abductions Satyrs  Plasma Craft UFOTubes, Rods

 

Adamic / Evadamic Hybrids

Some people call these the first humans, possibly first hybrid descendants of 
the Anunnaki . It is believed that the Adam / Eve theme shows up in many 
cultures over every continent in in many ancient texts. It is also believed 
that there are two races of beings within our universal locale; Draconian's 
(reptiles) and the Evadamic (human) which battled for domination of Terra, or 
Earth. They would look somewhat middle eastern or Native American, Black, dark 
brown hair, dark eyes, olive eyes, in rare cases blue eyes. Or are these 
mythological creatures in world history?

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Alpha Centaurians

A humanoid species that has aquatic qualities such as gills, webbed feet an 
hands allowing them to live beneath our seas. They possibly inhabit our deep 
ocean depths and piloting UFO's often seen coming out of our oceans. They have 
been accredited with cattle mutilations, possess such an advanced weapons 
systems that other specie swill not war with them. Yet others claim they are 
here to enlighten our consciousness. Also they've been described as being a 
luminous bluish gray in color of various height.

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Altairians

Supposedly a reptilian ( have seen them described as humanoid/reptilian) 
species that is associated with the Constellation A

[proletar] Re: ALIEN UFO BERNAMA ELOHIM (ELOAH==ALLAH)

Dan di majalah2 Islam seperti Hidayatullah itu isinya adalah CERITA2 kematian 
yang MENGERIKAN. Tidak ada sama sekali syurga. Allah itu betul2 alien yang amat 
berbahaya. 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Sampai hari ini belum pernah kubaca ada orang masuk syurga memakai sistemnya 
> ALLAH. Muhammad sendiri tidak ada buktinya ada di syurga. Tidak ada buktinya 
> ia hidup setelah mati. 
> 
> Semua tatacara sholat haji dll dll itu omong kosong. 
> 
> Yg pernah mengalami pengalaman mirip Muhammad dalam Quran (syurga ranjang 
> berjejer dilayani bidadari dan air sungai susu madu) adalah pengalaman orang 
> bernama RAEL, ia mendirikan aliran Raelian, setelah diculik oleh UFO bernama 
> ELOHIM alias YAHWEH. 
> 
> Rael dibawa dalam UFO mothershipnya YAHWEH, disana ia dilayani oleh robot sex 
> perempuan. Ranjang berjejer itu adalah ranjang otopsi, dan aliran susu madu 
> itu pipa2 biasa yg di jaman Muhammad tentu itu keajaiban. 
> 
> Elohim adalah nama jamak. Tunggalnya adalah ELOAH yang dalam bahasa Arab 
> adalah ALLAH.
>  
> Banyak aliran agama muncul setelah pertemuan dengan alien. Islam adalah salah 
> satunya.  
> 
> 
> Raelian Movement
> An Introduction to Raelians for Beginners
> 
> By Catherine Beyer, About.com Guide
> See More About:
> 
> raelians
> ufo cults
> aliens
> new religious movements
> controversial religions
> 
> "Official Raelian symbol"
> 
> Official Raelian Symbol, representing infinite time and space as well as the 
> Elohim
> Sponsored Links
> 
> Is Jesus Really God?Discover the Evidence From Scholars About Jesus' Claims 
> to be GodY-Jesus.com
> 
> Christ-The hunger for HimAnd the adoring of Him. Everything He can do for Man 
> and Woman.www.hallvworthington.com
> 
> Your Zodiac HoroscopeInsert Your Birthdate & Get Answers about Past-Present 
> and Future. FreeAboutAstro.com/horoscope
> Alternative Religions Ads
> 
> Holidays
> Religion
> Raelian Movement
> Rael Player
> Engel Elohim
> 
> Sponsored Links
> 
> God Can Give You New LifeLearn From This True Life Story How God Can Change 
> Your Lifewww.LifesGreatestQuestion.com
> 
> Is there a Hell?Free "Where Are The Dead?" Explains the Bible 
> Hellwww.bibletruthkeys.com
> 
> The Raelian Movement is a new religious movement and atheistic religion that 
> denies the existence of true supernatural gods, believing instead that 
> various mythologies (particularly that of the Abrahamic God) are based upon 
> experiences with an alien race called the Elohim.
> 
> Various religious prophets and founders such as the Buddha, Jesus, Moses, 
> etc. are also considered prophets of the Elohim, chosen and educated by the 
> Elohim to reveal their message to humanity in stages.
> 
> Origins
> On December 13, 1973, Claude Vorilhon experienced an alien abduction by the 
> Elohim, who renamed him Rael and instructed him to act as their prophet. 
> Yahweh is the name of the specific Elohim with him Rael was in contact. He 
> held his first public conference on his revelations on September 19, 1974.
> 
> Basic Beliefs
> Intelligent Design
> Raelians disbelieve in evolution, believing that DNA naturally rejects 
> mutations. They believe the Elohim planted all life on Earth 25,000 years ago 
> through scientific processes. The Elohim were likewise created by another 
> race, and one day humanity will do the same on some other planet.
> 
> Read more: The Elohim - Creators of Humanity
> 
> Immortality through Cloning
> While the Raelians disbelieve in an afterlife, they vigorously pursue 
> scientific inquiries into cloning, which will grant its own form of 
> immortality to those who are cloned. They also believe that the Elohim 
> occasionally clone truly outstanding human individuals, and that these clones 
> now live on another planet among the Elohim.
> 
> Read more: Ressurection through Cloning
> 
> Embracing Sensuality
> The Elohim are benevolent creators who wish for us to enjoy the life they 
> have given us. As such, Raelians are strong advocates of sexual freedom 
> between consenting adults, and their attitude toward free love is one of the 
> most well known facts about them. Raelians therefore exhibit a very wide 
> variety of sexual orientations and preferences, including monogamy and even 
> chastity.
> 
> Creation of an Embassy
> Raelians seek for an embassy to be created on Earth as a neutral space for 
> the Elohim. The Elohim do not wish to force themselves upon humanity, so they 
> will only fully reveal themselves once humanity is ready for and accepting of 
> them.
> 
> It is pref

[proletar] ALIEN UFO BERNAMA ELOHIM (ELOAH==ALLAH)

Sampai hari ini belum pernah kubaca ada orang masuk syurga memakai sistemnya 
ALLAH. Muhammad sendiri tidak ada buktinya ada di syurga. Tidak ada buktinya ia 
hidup setelah mati. 

Semua tatacara sholat haji dll dll itu omong kosong. 

Yg pernah mengalami pengalaman mirip Muhammad dalam Quran (syurga ranjang 
berjejer dilayani bidadari dan air sungai susu madu) adalah pengalaman orang 
bernama RAEL, ia mendirikan aliran Raelian, setelah diculik oleh UFO bernama 
ELOHIM alias YAHWEH. 

Rael dibawa dalam UFO mothershipnya YAHWEH, disana ia dilayani oleh robot sex 
perempuan. Ranjang berjejer itu adalah ranjang otopsi, dan aliran susu madu itu 
pipa2 biasa yg di jaman Muhammad tentu itu keajaiban. 

Elohim adalah nama jamak. Tunggalnya adalah ELOAH yang dalam bahasa Arab adalah 
ALLAH.
 
Banyak aliran agama muncul setelah pertemuan dengan alien. Islam adalah salah 
satunya.  


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The Raelian Movement is a new religious movement and atheistic religion that 
denies the existence of true supernatural gods, believing instead that various 
mythologies (particularly that of the Abrahamic God) are based upon experiences 
with an alien race called the Elohim.

Various religious prophets and founders such as the Buddha, Jesus, Moses, etc. 
are also considered prophets of the Elohim, chosen and educated by the Elohim 
to reveal their message to humanity in stages.

Origins
On December 13, 1973, Claude Vorilhon experienced an alien abduction by the 
Elohim, who renamed him Rael and instructed him to act as their prophet. Yahweh 
is the name of the specific Elohim with him Rael was in contact. He held his 
first public conference on his revelations on September 19, 1974.

Basic Beliefs
Intelligent Design
Raelians disbelieve in evolution, believing that DNA naturally rejects 
mutations. They believe the Elohim planted all life on Earth 25,000 years ago 
through scientific processes. The Elohim were likewise created by another race, 
and one day humanity will do the same on some other planet.

Read more: The Elohim - Creators of Humanity

Immortality through Cloning
While the Raelians disbelieve in an afterlife, they vigorously pursue 
scientific inquiries into cloning, which will grant its own form of immortality 
to those who are cloned. They also believe that the Elohim occasionally clone 
truly outstanding human individuals, and that these clones now live on another 
planet among the Elohim.

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Embracing Sensuality
The Elohim are benevolent creators who wish for us to enjoy the life they have 
given us. As such, Raelians are strong advocates of sexual freedom between 
consenting adults, and their attitude toward free love is one of the most well 
known facts about them. Raelians therefore exhibit a very wide variety of 
sexual orientations and preferences, including monogamy and even chastity.

Creation of an Embassy
Raelians seek for an embassy to be created on Earth as a neutral space for the 
Elohim. The Elohim do not wish to force themselves upon humanity, so they will 
only fully reveal themselves once humanity is ready for and accepting of them.

It is preferred that the embassy be created in Israel, since the Hebrews were 
the first people contacted by the Elohim according to Raelian belief. However, 
other locations are acceptable if creating it in Israel is not possible.

Act of Apostasy and Baptism
Formal joining of the Raelian Movement requires the Act of Apostasy, denying 
any previous theistic associations, followed by a baptism, known as the 
transmission of the cellular plan. This ritual is understood to communicate the 
new member's DNA makeup to an Elohim extraterrestrial computer.

Read more: Raelian Baptism - Transmission of the Cellular Plan

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The first Sunday in April: when Raelians believe the Elohim created Adam 
and Eve.
August 6: The date of t

[proletar] KESIMPULAN : SISTEM ALLAH YG MEMPERBUDAK MANUSIA

Sistem agamanya Allah itu memperbudak manusia, melanggar hak asasi, tidak 
bermoral, dan itu diperalat oleh ALIEN bernama ALLAH itu untuk kepentingan dia 
menguasai dunia yang kita tidak tahu untuk apa 





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[proletar] DISKRIMINASI PEREMPUAN DALAM ISLAM

All women political candidates must be veiled and silent, says Egyptian 
politician
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All women political candidates must be veiled and silent, says Egyptian 
politician
posted by Rob Kerby, Senior Editor | 12:23pm Friday October 14, 2011

All Egyptian women seeking office in upcoming elections must be veiled and not 
speak to men, says a top Egyptian politician, adding to growing concerns that 
"Arab Spring" has been a setback for human rights in the Arab world's most 
populous nation.

Last week, 26 Coptic Christians were killed and more than 200 injured when the 
Egyptian army opened fire on a peaceful march. Christians were protesting a ban 
on any construction  including repairs  to churches, which has been enforced 
brutally in some cases by the Egyptian army.

Salafi leader Mahmoud Amer said "there should be conditions on women running in 
the upcoming parliamentary elections, namely that they should be veiled, and 
that they should not talk to men except when utterly necessary," reported staff 
writers Mounir Adib, Hamdi Dabash and Ghada Mohamed Al-Sherif in the Egyptian 
daily al-Masry al-Youm.

Three Salafi parties, the Nour, Asala and Fadila parties, have announced that 
they are fielding female candidates in the elections.

"We want to prevent other female candidates who are not from the Islamist 
trends from winning seats," said Nader Bakar, spokesman of the Nour Party.

Bakar added that his party would hold a conference in which it would explain 
the role of women in political life, according to al-Masry al-Youm. Hoda Abdel 
Moneim of the Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party told the newspaper that 
female members of the group would  play an important role in politics. "We are 
no longer persecuted by the security services," she said. Party Assistant 
Secretary Azab Mostafa said the party is fielding 47 women in the elections.

Meanwhile the president of Cairo's Ain Shams University announced during an 
open discussion with university students and faculty members Wednesday morning 
that the university has decided to ban faculty members who wear full-body veils 
from teaching at the university and entering lectures.

Educational activities require communication between the students and faculty, 
said President Dr. Maged al-Dib.

"Accoring to al-Dib, niqab-wearing staff will be assigned to tasks that don't 
involve teaching, such as grading papers," reported al-Masry al-Youm. The 
university president warned of the growth of what he called "strange political 
currents" in the university, "stressing to teachers that they must look after 
their students and guide them away from such currents. He asked them to run 
discussions with students participating in such trends to try to convince them 
to renounce their ideas in a friendly way.

University Vice President for Student Affairs Atef al-Ouloum told the 
newspaper, "There are extremist and banned movements that can lead our students 
astray, but we make an exceptional effort to rally the students against this, 
because if we leave them alone, we will have to answer to God."

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[proletar] ISLAM MENUNJUKKAN KEBENCIAN MEREKA PADA JESUS ATAU ISA

Columbian soccer star arrested in Saudi Arabia for failing to cover tattoo of 
Jesus
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Columbian soccer star arrested in Saudi Arabia for failing to cover tattoo of 
Jesus
posted by Rob Kerby, Senior Editor | 7:55pm Wednesday October 12, 2011

Juan Pablo Pino

Saudi Arabia's religious police have arrested a South American soccer star in a 
shopping mall in the Saudi capital for failing to cover up his tattoo of Jesus.

Juan Pablo Pino, 24, who plays for the An-Nasr professional team was wearing a 
sleeveless shirt while walking with his young pregnant wife in a shopping mall 
in Riyadh, reported Asia News.

"The tattoo on his left shoulder led to the insults of some local Muslims," 
reported the Vatican Insider newspaper. "The incident attracted the attention 
of the so-called `police for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice,' 
who stopped the couple."

According to the Qatar newspaper al-Sharq, religious police "put the player and 
his wife in a car and took them to the police station."

Soon afterward, police contacted the soccer club and "Pino and his wife were 
handed over to them."

"Immediately afterwards the football club released a statement, attributed to 
the player," reported Asia News, "where Juan Pablo Pino expressed his `deep 
sadness' over the incident and certified that it was not his intention to 
violate the laws of the country. The communiqué adds that the player was in the 
mall `to buy Muslim clothes for his wife, so that she can go out in public 
dressed in a respectful manner.'

The player's wife, however, according to al-Sharq is distressed wanted her 
husband to leave Saudi Arabia with her. The newspaper said that the club has 
asked the coach, Gustavo Costas, to convince her to change her mind.

In September the Peruvian newspaper El Comercio, Costas described his new life 
in Saudi Arabia.

In Lima he had a habit of making the sign of the cross before every game and 
wore a rosary around his neck.

"Now I can not do this in public, I do it in the locker room. If I made the 
sign of the cross, they would kill me, stone me," Costas told El Comercio.

Last year, the Romanian player Mirel Radoi who plays for the Saudi club 
al-Hilal kissed the cross tattoo on his arm after scoring a goal. The episode 
scandalized Muslims, according to El Comerc

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[proletar] PAKISTAN: HERO of ISLAM

Agama yang tidak bermoral begini ini hanya ISLAM, kalah debat pendapat, 
membunuh. Dipuja dan dilindungi, lagi. 
Pakistan: "We will not let the government keep hostage the hero of Islam, who 
killed a blasphemous infidel"

The suspension of the death sentence for the assassin of the Pakistani governor 
and blasphemy law critic, Salman Taseer, has only emboldened the protesters. In 
their outrage following the verdict against Mumtaz Qadri, they have also 
ransacked the judge's chambers, while making the standard allegations of a 
"Jewish" hand in the verdict. "Pakistani Islamic extremists march in support of 
assassin Mumtaz Qadri," by Jibran Khan for Asia News, October 14:

Islamabad (AsiaNews) - The Islamic fundamentalist fringe, the association 
of lawyers in Rawalpindi, a famous judge of the court of Lahore and thousands 
of Pakistanis are on the streets: a large chunk of the country is challenging 
the judiciary and the government, guilty of condemning to death Mumtaz Qadri, 
the bodyguard and self-confessed murderer of the Punjab Governor Salman Taseer, 
who was killed on January 2 for defending the Christian Asia Bibi and asking 
for changes to the blasphemy laws. Speaking to AsiaNews Catholic leaders 
confirm the "mass reaction" of religious parties against the ruling and observe 
"with great sorrow" a nation that is "in danger of falling into chaos and 
anarchy."

Sahibzada Fazle Karim, president of the Sunni Ittehad Council, has 
announced for 21 November next, a human chain under the slogan: "Bring down the 
government." According to the extremist leader, a long line of people will link 
Rawalpindi  home to the court that handed down the sentence against Qadri - 
and Karachi in southern Pakistan, demanding the resignation of the executive. 
"We will not let the government - said Sahibzada Fazle Karim  keep hostage the 
hero of Islam, who killed a blasphemous infidel." He then launches an appeal to 
all Muslims, to fight together against "the government, the Ahmadis and the 
West" accused of "conspiracy against Islam."

In a surprise decision, the former head of the Lahore High Court has 
decided to take the legal defense of Qadri in the appeal process in Islamabad. 
"Qadri's gesture is justified - says the judge  as one of a true Muslim." The 
members of the Association of lawyers of Rawalpindi have also given the 
government an ultimatum: if within five days Judge Syed Pervez Ali Shah - 
author of the sentence to death  is not transferred a lawyers strike will be 
launched nationwide. Meanwhile, the city attorney has suspended the 
enforceability of the death sentence, pending appeal.

Meanwhile, among the Catholic leaders in Pakistan the fear of a violent 
drift of the protest remains: for Msgr. Lawrence Saldanha, archbishop emeritus 
of Lahore, there was a "massive response" of Islamic religious parties, which 
so far, "the authorities have been able to control." For Mgr. Rufin Anthony, 
Bishop of Islamabad-Rawalpindi, the fact a respected judge decides to assume 
the defense of a criminal is not a "good sign" for the judicial system in 
Pakistan. Not only for the act of killing itself, clarifies the prelate, but 
for "the justification for killing anyone who does not share your opinion."

The bishop of the capital, warns that the country may plunge into chaos and 
anarchy, becoming a place where "the killers are considered heroes." And note a 
contradiction: If Taseer's murder was justified, why is the Islamic Tehreek 
movement offering a sum of money "to wash the blood spilled with money."

Islamic law provides for the use of diyya, or blood money, giving people with 
enough money or sufficient connections and influence to raise it the 
possibility of buying their way out of their crimes. The offer here is 
condescending and disdainful, attempting to buy off the loss of Taseer at a 
price of their choosing and make the matter go away, so that Qadri gets off 
scot-free.
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[proletar] Imam in the U.K. found guilty of abusing young girls

Rupanya bukan hanya imam katolik saja yang begitu...
Imam in the U.K. found guilty of abusing young girls
If the offending imam had committed his acts of pedophilia in a country with a 
high degree of sharia compliance, then of course the imam would not have been 
convicted at all, as the founder of Islam consummated his own marriage to his 
child bride Aisha when she was but nine (Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, 
Number 64). Not that the British government or its legal system is about to 
acknowledge this, of course. Note that the convictions are for crimes that 
occurred 25-30 years ago, and no one in the Muslim community stepped forward in 
all that time save one brave victim herself. At the lightning rate that sharia 
is advancing in Britain, however, what are the chances of another imam being 
similarly convicted in the U.K. in 25 to 30 years' time? From "Imam found 
guilty of abusing young girls", by Scott D'arcy, Swindon Advertiser, 15 October 
2011 (thanks to Geert Wilders Facebook British Admin):

A `DESPICABLE' paedophile who abused three girls when he was an Imam at a 
town centre mosque has been convicted by a jury.

Ebrahim Yusuf Kazi, 67, was found guilty of five counts of indecent assault 
on three girls aged under the age of 13.

The offences took place between 1979 and 1986 at Broad Street Mosque, where 
Kazi was an Imam before moving to Gloucester.

The victims have been praised by the police for their bravery in coming 
forward and one victim told the Adver she will come face-to-face with him at 
court next month to see him sentenced.

Kazi's crimes were only revealed after one young victim contacted Wiltshire 
Police.

PC Dawn Simmonds, the investigating officer, said that Kazi had abused his 
position to commit his crimes.

She said: "Ebrahim Yusuf Kazi was found guilty of five counts of indecent 
assault on three girls aged under the age of 13.

"The offences took place in the 1980s when Kazi was the Imam at the Broad 
Street Mosque in Swindon. As an Imam, Kazi was in a position of responsibility 
and trust, a position which he abused for his own gratification.

"Not only did he subject these children to these despicable acts but he has 
shown no remorse for his actions, having now also put them through the ordeal 
of a trial. 

Why would he be remorseful when he is following his own (so-called) prophet's 
example?
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[proletar] Agamanya Zen Re: Steve Jobs Ternyata Berasal dari Garis Keturunan Nabi Muhammad

Dan ternyata Steve Jobs menganut BUDDHIS aliran ZEN dari Jepang. 

The Zen of Steve Jobs
from CNN Belief Blog by Dan Gilgoff

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN)  Steve Jobs' admirers praised him for de-cluttering the world of 
high-tech gadgetry. The products that made him famous, from the Macintosh 
computer to the iPad, exemplified minimalist design and simplicity of use, 
enabling what some called a Zen-like experience.

"Apple products are as defined by what they're missing as much as by what they 
contain," wrote tech and pop culture columnist Jeff Yang this year in the San 
Francisco Chronicle.

The spiritual side of Steve Jobs

Might Jobs' approach to innovation and design have been provoked by real-life 
Zen, as in Zen Buddhism?

The Apple chief, who died Wednesday at 56, had a decades-long relationship with 
a Zen master, who presided over his wedding and whom Jobs reportedly appointed 
as a corporate spiritual adviser. Their ties have fed speculation about such a 
connection.

Early on in life, Jobs took a spiritual retreat to India that helped lead him 
to embrace Buddhism. But the teacher with whom Jobs bonded with in the United 
States was a Zen Buddhist, a tradition rooted in Japan.

According to Yang and to other press reports, Jobs studied at the Los Altos Zen 
Center in the 1970s and developed a close relationship with a Japanse-born Zen 
master, or roshi, named Kobun Chino Otogawa.

Kobun focused his teaching on developing a Zen meditation practice.

"The real purpose of practice is to discover the wisdom which you have always 
been keeping with you," Kobun said in a talk that's posted on the website for 
the Jikoji Retreat Center, a Zen center he founded outside San Francisco.

"To discover yourself is to discover wisdom; without discovering yourself you 
can never communicate with anybody," said Kobun, who died in 2002, in the same 
talk.

Jobs seemed to echo that spiritual self-reliance in public comments, including 
his oft-quoted 2005 commencement address at Stanford University:

For the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked 
myself, "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am 
about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "no" for too many days in 
a row, I know I need to change something. Remembering that you are going to die 
is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to 
lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.

According to Yang, Jobs appointed Kobun as the official "spiritual adviser" for 
the company he founded after being fired as Apple CEO in 1986. Called NeXT, 
that company was eventually purchased by Apple, paving the way for Jobs' second 
act there.

In the 2001 book "The Second Coming of Steve Jobs," Alan Deutschman describes 
Kobun as:

a Zen Buddhist monk who had been Steve's guru and friend since Steve was in 
his late teens. (Kobun) was a lovable, poetic, romantic personality who was 
known for speaking very slowly (even in his native Japanese) and giving 
unintelligible lectures... He was a renegade who rebelled against the strict 
discipline and burdensome responsibility of being a priest. He was the Steve 
Jobs of Zen.

Kobun presided over Jobs' 1991 marriage to Laurene Powell.

The relationship between Jobs and Kobun is the subject of a graphic novel, soon 
to be published by Forbes. The book, which is fiction but is inspired by the 
real-life relationship, is titled "The Zen of Steve Jobs."

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny"  wrote:
>
> Ref: Pantas Steve sangat kreatif dan kalau begitu Steve adalah adalah 
> akliwaris jubah Nabi Muhammad yang ada pada Mullah Omar (pemimpn Taliban) 
> 
> 
> http://forum.vivanews.com/internasional/207843-steve-jobs-ternyata-berasal-dari-garis-keturunan-nabi-muhammad.html
> 
> 
> Steve Jobs Ternyata Berasal dari Garis Keturunan Nabi Muhammad 
> 
> 
> Asal usul mendiang bos Apple, Steve Jobs, terus jadi bahan berita. Setelah 
> diketahui ia ternyata punya darah Suriah, dari ayahnya, Abdul Fattah John 
> Jandali, ada satu lagi temuan yang unik.
> 
> Setelah dirunut-runut, riwayat keluarga Jandali ternyata salah satu keluarga 
> terkemuka di Homs, Suriah. Sepupu Steve Jobs, Bassma Al Jandali, menegaskan 
> trah Jandali punya garis keturunan langsung dengan Nabi Muhammad SAW!
> 
> "Ayah Steve, Paman saya, Abdul Fattah John Jandali datang dari Homs. Keluarga 
> Jandali adalah keluarga yang punya hubungan darah dengan keluarga Nabi 
> Muhammad SAW," kata Bassma, seperti dikutip dari Gulf News. Basma adalah 
> seorang jurnalis di Timur Tengah.
> 
> Steve Jobs Jandali pun ternyata punya nama Arab. Nama Arabnya adalah Abdul 
> Lateef Jandali. Ketika ia lahir dan diadopsi oleh keluarga yang memberinya 
> nama Steve Jobs.
> 
> Bassma bercerita, ketika kecil ibunya Bushra Jandali Rifa'e kerap mengatakan 
> ada keturunan Jandali yang hidup di AS. Itu adalah pamannya, Abdul Fattah 
> Jandali, yang

[proletar] North Carolina Muslims guilty of jihad terror plot

Melatih pengikutnya berkhianat pada negerinya sendiri, itulah sistem bikinan 
Allah bernama ISLAM. 

North Carolina Muslims guilty of jihad terror plot

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And they're already playing the victim card -- of course. "U.S. convicts three 
men of Jihad plot," by Ned Barnett for Reuters, October 14:

(Reuters) - A U.S. jury found three North Carolina men guilty on Thursday 
of conspiring to provide material support to Islamist militants in foreign 
countries.

The indictment named the three men, all in their 20s, as Mohammad Omar Aly 
Hassan, Ziyad Yaghi, both U.S. citizens, and Hysen Sherifi, a native of Kosovo 
and U.S. resident.

It said Boyd, a drywall contractor from Willow Spring, North Carolina, had 
drawn his sons and the other men into a plan to travel abroad to help Islamist 
militants, although prosecutors have said there was no indication they were 
linked to any international militant organization.

The indictment added that Boyd had travelled between 1989 and 1992 to 
Pakistan and Afghanistan, "where he received military-style training in 
terrorist training camps for the purpose of engaging in violent jihad."

It added that from at least November 2006, when the federal investigation 
began, Boyd conspired with the other defendants "to provide material support 
and resources to terrorists, including currency, training, transportation and 
personnel."

Boyd and Sherifi were also accused of conspiring to kill U.S. military 
personnel "in an attack on government and military installations in Virginia 
and elsewhere."

The federal jury found Sherifi guilty on five counts, including three 
counts of conspiring to provide material support to terrorists; to murder, 
kidnap, maim and injure persons; and to kill a federal officer or employee. He 
also was convicted of two counts of possessing a firearm in furtherance of a 
crime of violence

Mauri Saalakhan, director of the Peace Through Justice Foundation, based in 
the Washington D.C. area, attended closing arguments and said the convictions 
were brought about by "a post-9/11 atmosphere of fear and patriotism."

"I just feel it was a terrible miscarriage of justice that doesn't make 
America any safer," Saalakhan said.

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[proletar] TUNISIA: Masjid jadi tempat Provokasi

Masjid mengindoktrinasi orang untuk mengamuk dan clash dengan polisi. Cara 
begini sudah banyak dilakukan di Indonesia, dan ini cara khas ISLAM.  

Tunisia: Thousands pour out of mosques and clash with police over "offensive" 
movie while attempting to march to TV station that aired it

Self-government depends on government of the self. If Tunisians can allow 
themselves be whipped up into a fury of this degree over a movie shown on TV, 
it obviously bodes ill for the future stability of the country. More on this 
story. "Tunisian police fire tear gas at film protesters," by Bouazza ben 
Bouazza for the Associated Press, October 14:

TUNIS, Tunisia (AP)  Tunisian police used tear gas Friday to disperse 
thousands in the capital in the latest protest over the airing of "Persepolis," 
an animated film that Islamists have called blasphemous.

The demonstrations are ratching up before Tunisia's landmark Oct. 23 
election for a constitutional body that will determine the future of this North 
African nation that overthrew its longtime dictator in January.

Worshippers poured out of al-Fatah mosque in downtown Tunis and began 
protesting after the imam preached against "Persepolis," calling it a "serious 
attack on the religious beliefs of Muslims."

Priorities. This also bodes ill for the future of the country.

Marjane Satrapi's award-winning adaptation of her graphic novels about 
growing up during Iran's 1979 Islamic Revolution contains a scene showing a 
character representing God. Depictions of God are considered sacrilege in Islam.

The film won the jury prize at the 2007 Cannes Film Festival.

The preacher in Tunis questioned the timing of the broadcast by a private 
TV station during such a sensitive period before the election.

When would be a good time?

Police stopped the marchers with tear gas Friday as they headed toward the 
Nessma TV station.

They already tried to torch it once.

Station chief Nabil Karoui has since apologized for airing the film earlier 
this week, calling it a "mistake."

There have been other protests against the TV station in the cities of 
Sousse, Monastir, Sidi Bouzid and Beja. Police arrested 50 demonstrators in 
Tunis on Sunday after they tried to attack the station.

There have been a rise in attacks against perceived symbols of secularism 
by hardcore Muslims in Tunisia ahead of the elections. Once suppressed by the 
former regime, conservative Muslims are increasingly making themselves heard in 
the country's politics

We tried to tell you.
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[proletar] JIHAD itu WAJIB dalam QURAN

Yg ini hanya bisa terjadi dalam satu agama saja: ISLAM

Underwear bomber: "The Koran obliges every able Muslim to participate in jihad 
and fight in the way of Allah, those who fight you, and kill them wherever you 
find them"

Is his understanding of the Qur'an and Islam and jihad wrong? If so, will some 
Muslim spokesman in the U.S. care to explain how? "Transcript: Read 
Abdulmutallab's statement on guilty plea," from the Detroit Free Press, October 
12 (thanks to Dearborn Underground):

The following is the transcript of what accused underwear bomber Umar 
Farouk Abdulmutallab said to the court today as he pleaded guilty to eight 
criminal charges in federal court in Detroit. The transcipt was provided by the 
U.S. District Court in Detroit.

"In the name of Allah, the most merciful, if I were to say I the father did 
not do it, but my son did it and he conspired with the holy spirit to do it, or 
if I said I did it but the American people are guilty of the sin, and Obama 
should pay for the crime, the Court wouldn't accept that from me or anyone else.

"In late 2009, in fulfillment of a religious obligation, I decided to 
participate in jihad against the United States. The Koran obliges every able 
Muslim to participate in jihad and fight in the way of Allah, those who fight 
you, and kill them wherever you find them, some parts of the Koran say, an eye 
for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

"I had an agreement with at least one person to attack the United States in 
retaliation for U.S. support of Israel and in retaliation of the killing of 
innocent and civilian Muslim populations in Palestine, especially in the 
blockade of Gaza, and in retaliation for the killing of innocent and civilian 
Muslim populations in Yemen, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and beyond, most of 
them women, children, and noncombatants.

"As a result, I traveled to Yemen and eventually to the United States, and 
I agreed with at least one person to carry an explosive device onto an aircraft 
and attempt to kill those onboard and wreck the aircraft as an act of jihad 
against the United States for the U.S. killing of my Muslim brothers and 
sisters around the world.

"I was greatly inspired to participate in jihad by the lectures of the 
great and rightly guided mujahedeen who is alive, Sheikh Anwar al-Awlaki, may 
Allah preserve him and his family and give them victory, Amin, and Allah knows 
best.

"Participation in jihad against the United States is considered among the 
most virtuous of deeds in Islam and is highly encouraged in the Koran; however, 
according to U.S. law, which is unjust and oppressive according to the Koran, 
my actions make me guilty of a crime in the United States, in particular, the 
following counts in my indictment.

"Count 1, conspiracy to commit an act of terrorism transcending national 
boundaries, so by me traveling to Yemen, then to Djibouti, to Ethiopia, Ghana, 
Nigeria, the Netherlands, and eventually the United States, with an agreement 
with at least one person to carry an explosive device in an attempt to kill 
those onboard for the U.S. killing of innocent Muslims, I'm guilty in U.S. law 
of this count.

"Count 2, possession of a firearm or destructive device in the furtherance 
of a crime of violence, I carried with me an explosive device onto Northwest 
253, again, to avenge the killing of my innocent Muslim brothers and sisters by 
the U.S. So I am guilty in U.S. law of this count.

"Count 3, attempted murder within the special aircraft jurisdiction of the 
United States, again, in retaliation for U.S. support of Israel and Israel 
massacres of innocent Palestinians, so I am guilty of this count, too.

"Count 4, use and carrying of a firearm, destructive device during and in 
relation to a crime of violence by carrying an explosive device and attempting 
to use it on Flight 253 for the U.S. killing of innocent Muslims, I am guilty 
of this count, too.

"Count 5, willfully placing a destructive device in and upon, in proximity 
to a civil aircraft which was used and operated in interstate, overseas, and 
foreign air commerce which was likely to have endangered the safety of such 
aircraft, I intentionally carried an explosive device onto Flight 253, for the 
United States tyranny and oppression of Muslims, so I am guilty of this count 
in U.S. law, but not in the Koran.

"Count 6, possession of a firearm/destructive device in furtherance of a 
crime of violence. I was in possession of an explosive device intended for use 
against the United States for U.S. interference in Muslim countries, so I am 
guilty in U.S. law of this count.

"Count 7, attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction, I attempted to use 
an explosive device which in the U.S. law is a weapon of mass destruction, 
which I call a blessed weapon to save the lives of innocent Muslims, for U.S. 
use of weapons of mass destruction on Muslim populations in Afghanistan, Iraq, 
Y

[proletar] Indonesia: Parents not getting diphtheria vaccines for children

Yg begini ini hanya bisa terjadi dalam ISLAM, agama bodoh itu. 


Indonesia: Parents not getting diphtheria vaccines for children because they're 
not sure they're halal

We have seen this before. In Britain, the head of the Islamic Medical 
Association told parents that vaccines were haram. In Nigeria, jihadis struck a 
vaccine warehouse, and paranoia about vaccines being a U.S. plot to sterilize 
Muslims led to a polio outbreak. "Religious beliefs hinder vaccination in E. 
Java," by Elly Burhaini Faizal for The Jakarta Post, October 15:

The government has blamed parents' reluctance to get their children 
vaccinated for the recent diphtheria outbreak in East Java, with many religious 
communities in the province still questioning whether the anti diphtheritic 
vaccine is halal, or allowed according to Islam.

Edi Purwinarto, assistant for people's welfare affairs at the East Java 
provincial administration, said on Friday that local communities living in some 
small areas in the province were still somewhat reluctant to give their 
newborns a complete basic vaccination.

"Some parents resist getting their children vaccinated due to a number of 
reasons. Some of them are just worried that vaccination will hurt their 
children or cause a fever but in some areas people worry that the vaccines are 
not halal," Edi told The Jakarta Post.

East Java Governor Soekarwo declared an extraordinary situation (KLB) on 
Sunday for diphtheria in all parts of the province. The provincial 
administration said that as of Oct. 14, diphtheria incidents had reached 352 
cases with 11 deaths, not 328 deaths as reported earlier by several media 
outlets.

Diphtheria is a deadly upper respiratory-tract illness caused by 
Corynebacterium diphtheriae, it can be prevented by administering DPT 
vaccination to newborns.

Mass diphtheria vaccination is being carried out in several outbreak 
regions, especially in 11 regencies and municipalities; Bangkalan, Banyuwangi, 
Blitar, Gresik, Mojokerto, Pamekasan, Pasuruan, Sampang, Sidoarjo, Sumenep and 
Surabaya. Together with religious leaders, Edi said, the local government was 
working to change existing perceptions and attitudes toward vaccines.

"It's not easy to overcome parental resistance to immunization since it is 
closely related to religious perceptions. Therefore, we work with religious 
organizations to teach parents about the importance of getting their children 
vaccinated," said Edi mentioning Muslimat NU and Aisyiyah of Muhammadiyah as 
the government's counterparts in the dialog

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[proletar] AKTRIS IRAN DALAM SISTEM ALLAH

Yang ini hanya bisa terjadi dalam sistem komunis dan dalam sistem buatan ALLAH 
(Auloh) atau siapapun namanya (alien ini suka ganti2 nyawa), yang amat benci 
kebebasan manusia. Allah maunya mengikat total manusia dalam satu sistem 
perhambaan massal dan kekerasan, baik melalui sistrem komunis maupun sistem 
agama.  

Iran reportedly sentences film actress to 90 lashes

Quote:
An Iranian court has sentenced an Iranian actress to one year in jail and 90 
lashes related to her role in an Australian-made film portraying social 
alienation, artistic repression and drug use in Iran, according to an Iranian 
opposition website.

"In an outcome that could have been lifted from the pages of the movie's 
script"--"My Tehran for Sale"--the film's lead actress, Marzieh Vafamehr, "was 
arrested in July and received her sentence at the weekend, according to reports 
quoting Iranian opposition website kalameh.com," the Sydney Morning Herald 
reported.

In the 2009 film, Vafamehr portrays a Tehran actress whose theater work is 
banned by the authorities and is thus driven to Tehran's cultural underground. 
Ultimately, she contemplates whether to leave Iran for exile abroad.

"Vafamehr often appears with a shaved head and no headscarf in the film, which 
also explores cultural oppression in Iran and taboos such as drug use," the 
paper said.

Vafamehr's attorney has reportedly appealed the sentence which was handed down 
on Saturday. Technically, she was accused of participating in a film whose 
shooting did not have the required permits. However, both the film's director 
and the actress's filmmaker husband Nasser Taghvai said the charge is baseless.

"The accusations against Marzieh have no grounds," Granaz Moussavi, the 
Melbourne-based Iranian-Australian director of the film, said in a statement 
Tuesday, the AP reported. "All the documentation has been provided to the 
Iranian court to show that permits were in place for the production of the 
film."

Australian Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd also expressed concern about the 
sentence Tuesday.

"The Australian government condemns the use of cruel, inhuman or degrading 
treatment or punishment and is deeply concerned by reports that Ms. Marzieh 
Vafamehr has been sentenced to one year in jail and 90 lashes for her role in 
an Australian-produced film," a spokeswoman for Rudd said in a statement, the 
AP wrote. "The Australian government urges Iran to protect the rights of all 
Iranians and foreign citizens." 





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[proletar] LAPORAN 12-14 OKTOBER PENGIKUT ALLAH

2011-10-14 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Tiga hari saja...yg menarik adalah analisis bahwa ISLAM ITU ADALAH SEKTE 
KRISTEN ALIRAN YAHUDI, dibuktikan dari analisis dan perbandingan ajaran. Sama 
dong, Yahudi vs Islam, sarua wae, sami mawon, ajarannya, berantemnya, 
KEGAGALANNYA...  

Si munafik Arab Saudi mendirikan center toleransi?? 
Saudi-backed institute for "tolerance" and irony appreciation inaugurated in 
Vienna
by Marisol
The situation in Saudi Arabia itself proves that this outfit, the King Abdullah 
Bin Abdulaziz International Centre for Interreligious and Intercultural 
Dialogue (you can't make this stuff up), is nothing but an outpost for dawah, 
or Islamic proselytizing, and deception. If it is good for anything, it sets up 
a...

2:48 PM (2 hours ago)
Iranian pastor facing death sentence for apostasy may get new trial
by Marisol
What remains to be seen is if the new trial becomes an opportunity to formally 
pile on all of the imaginative new accusations leveled against Joseph 
Nadarkhani in the past month as international attention and opposition to his 
death sentence for apostasy have grown. An update on this story. "With...

2:48 PM (2 hours ago)
Egypt: Military takes over investigation of its own massacre of Christians
by Marisol
The report should make for good fiction, but it will otherwise not be worth the 
paper it is printed on. "Egypt military takes over inquiry of Coptic unrest," 
by Aya Batrawi for the Associated Press, October 13: CAIRO (AP)  Egypt's 
military prosecutor said Thursday his office will take over...

2:48 PM (2 hours ago)
Iranian "space program" suffers a setback as reported attempt to launch a 
monkey into space fails
by Marisol
Iran has already seen plenty of "apes and pigs" beat them into space flight, 
anyway. That is, if the program is anything but a front for ballistic missile 
development. One will recall that North Korea, with whom Iran has cooperated 
extensively, used a similar tactic, claiming in 1998 to have...
2:48 PM (2 hours ago)
Sudanese president says country is proceeding with plans for entirely Islamic 
constitution and Sharia law
by Marisol
The new constitution will be a deliberate U-turn from the interim one that 
respected "the cultural and social diversity of the Sudanese people," at least 
on paper. Wherever Sharia law experiences a revival, tolerance decreases, and 
persecution, harassment, and abuses of human rights increase. Bashir is already 
wanted by the...
6:26 AM (10 hours ago)
Saudi Arabia: Morals police arrest Colombian soccer player for having tattoo of 
Jesus on his arm
by Robert
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Pino: Immoral In Muslim countries, non-Muslims must respect Islamic law. In 
non-Muslim countries, non-Muslims must respect Islamic law. Got it? Sharia 
Alert from the Kingdom of the Two Holy Places, and an update on this story: 
"Saudi Arabia arrests Colombian soccer player over religious tattoos," by Tim 
Hinchliffe for Colombia...
2:02 AM (15 hours ago)
Pennsylvania: Muslim attacks atheist for insulting Muhammad
by Robert
1 person liked this
He could object all he wanted. He could tell the "Zombie Muhammad" guy in no 
uncertain terms that he considered his costume offensive and insulting. But 
when he physically attacks him, he is crossing a line that we have not often 
seen crossed in America. Are we going to stand...
1:31 AM (15 hours ago)
Islamic sex guide says wives meet only 10% of their husbands' desires
by Robert
And what are wives for in Islam, anyway? Women's Rights in Islamic Law Update: 
"Islamic sex guide says wives meet only 10% of husbands' desires," by Lindsay 
Murdoch for the Sydney Morning Herald, October 14: BANGKOK: Just months after 
telling its members to serve their husbands better than prostitutes, 
prompting...
1:31 AM (15 hours ago)
Raymond Ibrahim: Hillary Clinton Promises to Save Egypt's Christians?
by Raymond
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Soon after Sunday's Maspero massacre, where the Egyptian military slaughtered 
Christians demonstrating over the destruction of their churchesincluding by 
running them over with armored vehiclessome Egyptian media began reporting 
that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, having seen enough, declared that 
the U.S. plans on directly intervening in Egypt. Of...
Oct 13, 2011 (18 hours ago)
Libya: "Islamic hard-liners" desecrate Sufi shrines, dig up imams' graves and 
haul bodies away
by Marisol
Wherever Sharia law experiences a revival, tolerance decreases, and harassment 
and violence increase. As much as it is a frequent target, particularly of 
Salafist Muslim movements, Sufism is not the peaceful alternative to violent 
jihad and subjugation of non-Muslims that it is often advertised to be. Rather, 
its adherents are...
Oct 13, 2011 (18 hours ago)
Turkey: Prosecutor seeking arrests from sham list of Israeli military personnel 
said to be involved in flotilla raid
by Marisol
In its attempt at psy-ops, the Turkish side initially claimed the names were 
leaked to flotilla organizers by Israeli soldiers who "regrette

[proletar] ALIRAN YANG TERTOLAK Re: KRISTEN di CHINA dan TIGA ALIRAN KRISTEN

2011-10-11 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

> 3. KRISTEN MONOTEIS (1 Tuhan 1 Pribadi), yang dianut oleh para 
> murid Isa sendiri. Berkembang menjadi kelompok Nasrani (kristen-
> yahudi) yang sempat bentrok dgn kelompok Paulus, karena kelompok yg 
> ini melakukan sunat dan tatacara puasa Yahudi dll. Pemuka kelompok
> ini adalah Arius, uskup Alexandria Mesir.  Aliran ini kemudian amat 
> mempengaruhi Islam.  

Dari analisis jelas Muhammad mau menjadi pendeta kristen aliran ini, percaya 
pada Tuhan secara monotheis atau tauhid. Tapi sayangnya kristen aliran Paulus 
tidak mau terima, maka akhirnya Muhammad memisahkan diri mendirikan agama 
sendiri yang mengadopsi tatacara dan ajaran di Arab utara. Jadi kalau 
Kristen-Paulus itu menyerap Yunani dan Laut Tengah, Islam menyerap ajaran 
Nasrani monoteis dan Yahudi yang ada di sekitar Arab bagian utara.   

Jadi Muhammad itu dari kacamata pengikut Isa tidak salah niatnya, tapi caranya 
itu yang salah, yaitu dengan pasukan bersenjata merampoki dan menyerang kota2 
dan mengislamkan mereka. Ternyata metode ini sukses.  

Maka jadilah sampai sekarang, orang terilhami kesuksesan Muhammad lalu 
melakukan hal yang sama. Jelas juga kenapa kalau Islam dihina jawabannya adalah 
senjata atau hukuman. Jelas kalau mereka dianiaya, jawaban mereka adalah 
kekerasan. Kekerasan itu embedded, terekam jejaknya mulai dari Muhammad, anak 
cucu dan penerusnya yang terus menerus bunuh2an hingga sekarang.   

Itulah balada nabi yang tertolak tapi sukses berinovasi memakai cara kekerasan 
dan hukum syariat. Dua hal itu sudah diganti oleh Isa Almasih ketika beliau 
membatalkan hukum agama Yahudi dan menggantinya dengan spiritualitas. Tapi 
Muhammad mundur kembali lagi pada hukum agama Yahudi lama itu (kalau kalian 
bandingkan praktek dan prinsip agama Yahudi jaman dulu di Perjanjian Lama Bible 
dengan Al-Quran kalian akan mendapati banyak sekali kesamaan.   

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia"  wrote:
>
> Kristen booming di China, kemungkinan karena central values orang China 
> (buddhist) tidak banyak beda dari Kristen. 
> 
> Lalu bagaimana dengan Indonesia?? 
> 
> Bisakah Islam dikembalikan pada akarnya, Muhammad di Mekkah, aliran pengikut 
> Isa yang monotheist, seperti halnya para murid Jesus yang Yahudi, aliran 
> Kristen Arianisme di Mesir, atau Kristen aliran MONOTHEIS atau aliran TAUHID 
> sebagaimana diajarkan oleh manusia ISA ALMASIH ???
> 
> Pengikut Isa itu sejak dulu terpecah menjadi 3 (tiga) aliran besar:
> 
> 1. KRISTEN TRINITARIAN, (1 Tuhan 3 Pribadi) aliran Paulus, yang menggabungkan 
> ajaran Isa dengan filosofi Yunani dan Laut Tengah, Mitraisme dan Romawi, 
> menjadi Kristen mainstream sekarang yang berpatokan pada dogma dan teologi 
> dari Bible Perjanjian Lama dan Baru. 
> 
> 2. KRISTEN GNOSTIK ( 1 Tuhan, dua tabiat maskulin dan feminin), adalah aliran 
> yang dimusnahkan oleh kelompok pertama, melahirkan kitab2 absah seperti 
> penemuan Nag Hammadi (coba cari), antara lain Injil Thomas, Maria, dll. Baca 
> kitab2 itu di www.earlychristianwritings.com/gnostics.html 
> Kristen ini amat berciri mistik, anti-dogma, esoterik, personal, pengalaman 
> subyektif. Aliran mistik teosofi dan witchcraft menganggap Tuhan itu berciri 
> dualisme laki-perempuan. Pengikut aliran ini antara lain adalah penulis novel 
> DaVinci Code. 
> 
> 3. KRISTEN MONOTEIS (1 Tuhan 1 Pribadi), yang dianut oleh para murid Isa 
> sendiri. Berkembang menjadi kelompok Nasrani (kristen-yahudi) yang sempat 
> bentrok dgn kelompok Paulus, karena kelompok yg ini melakukan sunat dan 
> tatacara puasa Yahudi dll. Pemuka kelompok ini adalah Arius, uskup Alexandria 
> Mesir.  Aliran ini kemudian amat mempengaruhi Islam.  
> 
> Ketiganya masih ada dan kemenangan aliran pertama atas Kekaisaran Romawi 
> menyebabkan aliran kedua dan ketiga dilenyapkan dengan melalui beberapa 
> konvensi. Kristen didogmatisir, dogma atau teori Trinity dan Penebusan masuk, 
> yang lain dikalahkan. Muhammad mempertahankan pendapatnya dan mendirikan 
> Islam dari kelompok ketiga.
> 
> Mari, jangan biarkan pendapat ketiga ini mati... Ada kebenaran di dalamnya, 
> bahwa ISA itu MANUSIA dan kita bisa meneladani hidup manusia ISA ini dalam 
> perjuangan mencari syurga.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> BBC
> 23 August 2010 Last updated at 23:52 GMT
> 
> China invests in confident Christians
> By Christopher Landau BBC News, China
> Students at National Catholic Seminary, Beijing The National Catholic 
> Seminary in Beijing prepares many for the priesthood
> 
> Three decades ago, China's Cultural Revolution saw some of the most dramatic 
> restrictions on the practice of religion ever seen in the modern world.
> 
> But today's communist rulers have radically altered their views about 
> religion and have granted substantial freedom to Christians prepared to 
> w

[proletar] Discovery refutes previous theory about galaxies

2011-10-11 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

Ilmu saja bisa dan perlu direvisi. Terus apakah sistem ideologi yang sudah 
jelas error seperti islam itu tidak bisa atau tidak boleh direvisi atau 
dirombak diganti yang lebih baik???


Discovery refutes previous theory about galaxies
October 11, 2011 by Javier Pérez Barbuzano

(PhysOrg.com) -- The world's largest optical telescope has allowed University 
of Florida astronomers to see new details about deep space galaxies, finding 
new clues to explain the evolution of galaxies like our own.

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Before these new observations, it was believed that galaxies in the young 
universe were much denser and compact than they are now, undergoing at some 
point a mysterious transformation growing in size and mass. Astronomers around 
the world struggled to find an explanation.

Now, a UF-led team has used the Gran Telescopio Canarias, or GTC, to point out 
the solution to the mystery: The data gathered by lesser telescopes was not 
accurate enough, which led to misinterpretation.

The GTC in Spain's Canary Islands has a primary mirror of 10.4 meters, or 27.6 
feet, which allowed the team led by UF graduate student Jesus Martinez and 
professor Rafael Guzman, to observe four of these dense galaxies with a level 
of detail unachieved so far. They found that the four were six times less 
massive, on average, than previously believed, as described in the September 
issue of The Astrophysical Journal Letters.

It takes time for light to travel through the universe. Considering the great 
distances the light must travel to get to Earth, looking through larger 
telescopes means not only being able to see farther in distance, but also back 
in time  in this case 9 billion years ago.

Martinez and teammates from Spanish research centers Instituto de Astrofisica 
de Canarias and Universidad Complutense de Madrid, concluded that what had been 
thought of as super-dense galaxies actually were not so dense and had not 
undergone dramatic transformation  a discovery that shows how scientists must 
always question previously accepted principles.

Cutting-edge scientific tools such as the GTC help bolster this kind of healthy 
scepticism.

UF is a 5 percent partner in the $180 million GTC, which was inaugurated in 
2009.

Provided by University of Florida (news : web)





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[proletar] Re: atheis dan islam...

2011-10-10 Terurut Topik pemerhatidunia

sama2 gak pernah nginep di dubai aja pada ngebacot 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "johny_indon"  wrote:
>
> sialan, cape2 gua bawa data ternyata yg gua adepin masih kusir delman 
> juga.
> 
> pid, elu tau apa sih soal harga kamar hotel? 
> bayar kost aja lu nuggak mulu mau sok tau soal tarif kamar hotel, 
> pake bawa contoh harga kamar hotel di eropa lagi.
> prihatin gua bacanya.
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, David Silalahi  wrote:
> >
> > hehe... dipancing untuk ngaku salah malah jadi keterlaluan...
> > memang anda ini tipikal orang brengsek...
> > istilahnya dikasih ati minta ampla...
> > 
> > udah jelas2 anda itu tukang fitnah dan tukang bawa link internet tapi kagak
> > mau ngaku...
> > bahkan dalam topik inipun ujung2nya cuma ribut bawa2 link internet..
> > tapi karena kebrengsekan anda dan mental pengecut anda, saya yakin anda gak
> > bakal mau ngaku...
> > maklum, pengecut..
> > 
> > lain kali, coba bawa link yang sesuai dengan topik dan sesuai dengan usia yg
> > lebih baru..
> > yg anda bawa itu link berita tahun 2009, coba lihat sekarang tahun 2011
> > 
> > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-24/diced-up-dubai-office-buildings-give-big-clients-little-to-like.html
> > 
> > kalo soal harga hotel, dimana2 juga harga hotel naik terus... di paris juga
> > naik lebih mahal dari london... coba search aja di internet... iya
> > diinternet, satu2nya modal anda... gak usah malu2 search di internet trus
> > pake ngaku  jalan2, ini saya yang suruh kok, jadi anda aman dan biar jiwa
> > pengecut anda itu gak meleleh... kasihan ...
> > 
> > lalu jangan asal ngebacot dubai itu krisis gara2 dunia krisis... baca yang
> > saya tulis baik2, dubai itu krisis duluan di tahun 2009, baru yang lain
> > bener2 kelihatan krisis...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 2011/10/10 johny_indon 
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > gua hargai pengakuan elu bahwa elu awalnya asal ngomong doang,
> > > ngga apa2, lebih baik ngaku salah (biarpun tanpa minta maaf)
> > > daripada ngotot terus kayak soal bahasa inggris itu.
> > > sekarang terbukti kan kalo jalan2 itu nambah wawasan dan meningkatkan IQ?
> > >
> > > soal krisis property di dubai, gua udah bilang, krisis ekonomi dunia
> > > mempengaruhi SEMUA negara, ngga cuman dubai doang.
> > > sekarang mungkin bisnis property di dubai lagi ngga cerah,
> > > tapi sektor bisnis lainnya tetep lancar jaya.
> > >
> > > asal elu tau, sampe detik ini dubai masih tetep jadi tempat wisata paling
> > > elit di dunia. tapi turis yg ke sana jelas bukan kelasnya elu.
> > > bisnis pariwisata di dubai ngga kepengaruh sama krisis ekonomi.
> > > elu tau kenapa? karena yg bener2 menderita karena krisis cuman orang2
> > > kelas bawah.
> > > orang2 superkaya mah kagak kepengaruh.
> > > di indonesia juga gitu, waktu krismon penjualan kijang innova boleh
> > > anjlok, tapi yg beli harley davidson atau ferrari jumlahnya ngga
> > > berkurang.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.arabianbusiness.com/burj-al-arab-maintains-room-rates-despite-global-crisis-18256.html
> > >
> > > "The luxury sector is certainly resilient to the crisis but this is also
> > > motivated by promotions and prices."
> > >
> > > Two of the group's properties in Dubai, the Jumeirah Beach Hotel and the
> > > Madinat Jumeirah, are keeping occupancy high, with 90 to 95 percent of the
> > > rooms filled between February and April at an average price of $570 
> > > dollars
> > > per night, Lawless said.
> > >
> > > temen kakak gua ada yg pernah gawe di hotel burj al arab yg fenomenal itu.
> > > biarpun harga kamar per malamnya ngga mungkin bisa lu bayar pake gaji lu
> > > sebulan, tapi katanya okupansi hotel itu TIAP HARI diatas 95%.
> > > pariwisata di dubai ngga mengenal high atau low season.
> > > tiap hari selalu rame.
> > >
> > > trus apa urusannya gua kudu bawa foto segala?
> > > di milis ini kagak bisa attach/embed foto, yg bisa tampil cuman link.
> > > blo'on banget sih lu.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>






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[proletar] KRISTEN di CHINA dan TIGA ALIRAN KRISTEN

Kristen booming di China, kemungkinan karena central values orang China 
(buddhist) tidak banyak beda dari Kristen. 

Lalu bagaimana dengan Indonesia?? 

Bisakah Islam dikembalikan pada akarnya, Muhammad di Mekkah, aliran pengikut 
Isa yang monotheist, seperti halnya para murid Jesus yang Yahudi, aliran 
Kristen Arianisme di Mesir, atau Kristen aliran MONOTHEIS atau aliran TAUHID 
sebagaimana diajarkan oleh manusia ISA ALMASIH ???

Pengikut Isa itu sejak dulu terpecah menjadi 3 (tiga) aliran besar:

1. KRISTEN TRINITARIAN, (1 Tuhan 3 Pribadi) aliran Paulus, yang menggabungkan 
ajaran Isa dengan filosofi Yunani dan Laut Tengah, Mitraisme dan Romawi, 
menjadi Kristen mainstream sekarang yang berpatokan pada dogma dan teologi dari 
Bible Perjanjian Lama dan Baru. 

2. KRISTEN GNOSTIK ( 1 Tuhan, dua tabiat maskulin dan feminin), adalah aliran 
yang dimusnahkan oleh kelompok pertama, melahirkan kitab2 absah seperti 
penemuan Nag Hammadi (coba cari), antara lain Injil Thomas, Maria, dll. Baca 
kitab2 itu di www.earlychristianwritings.com/gnostics.html 
Kristen ini amat berciri mistik, anti-dogma, esoterik, personal, pengalaman 
subyektif. Aliran mistik teosofi dan witchcraft menganggap Tuhan itu berciri 
dualisme laki-perempuan. Pengikut aliran ini antara lain adalah penulis novel 
DaVinci Code. 

3. KRISTEN MONOTEIS (1 Tuhan 1 Pribadi), yang dianut oleh para murid Isa 
sendiri. Berkembang menjadi kelompok Nasrani (kristen-yahudi) yang sempat 
bentrok dgn kelompok Paulus, karena kelompok yg ini melakukan sunat dan 
tatacara puasa Yahudi dll. Pemuka kelompok ini adalah Arius, uskup Alexandria 
Mesir.  Aliran ini kemudian amat mempengaruhi Islam.  

Ketiganya masih ada dan kemenangan aliran pertama atas Kekaisaran Romawi 
menyebabkan aliran kedua dan ketiga dilenyapkan dengan melalui beberapa 
konvensi. Kristen didogmatisir, dogma atau teori Trinity dan Penebusan masuk, 
yang lain dikalahkan. Muhammad mempertahankan pendapatnya dan mendirikan Islam 
dari kelompok ketiga.

Mari, jangan biarkan pendapat ketiga ini mati... Ada kebenaran di dalamnya, 
bahwa ISA itu MANUSIA dan kita bisa meneladani hidup manusia ISA ini dalam 
perjuangan mencari syurga.   





BBC
23 August 2010 Last updated at 23:52 GMT

China invests in confident Christians
By Christopher Landau BBC News, China
Students at National Catholic Seminary, Beijing The National Catholic Seminary 
in Beijing prepares many for the priesthood

Three decades ago, China's Cultural Revolution saw some of the most dramatic 
restrictions on the practice of religion ever seen in the modern world.

But today's communist rulers have radically altered their views about religion 
and have granted substantial freedom to Christians prepared to worship within 
state-sanctioned churches.

Within these boundaries, Christianity is growing in China as never before - and 
doing so supported by millions of dollars of government funding.

The BBC has been given unprecedented access to China's state-sanctioned 
Protestant and Catholic churches, to examine why the government seems so keen 
to invest in religion.
State funding

On the outskirts of Nanjing, a building site illustrates the scale of the 
communist state's commitment to supporting the development of Christianity.

Local officials say that the building under construction will become China's 
largest state-sanctioned church - with space for 5,000 worshippers.

The land - and 20% of the building costs - are being provided not by local 
Christians, but by the municipal government.

It represents state financial support worth millions of dollars - just one 
example of the strategy to encourage the development of religion in China.
Director General, State Administration for Religious Affairs, Wang Zuo An Mr 
Wang says Christianity is growing faster than ever

The Communist Party's senior official with responsibility for this policy is 
the director general of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, Wang 
Zuo An.

In a rare interview, he told me that there are now at least 20m Protestant 
Christians in China worshipping in the state-sanctioned church.

"Such growth is unprecedented in the history of Christianity in China. 
Christianity is enjoying its best period of growth in China," he said.

And he explained why the Chinese state is investing in religious faith - 
support which has included funding the construction of national Protestant and 
Catholic seminaries educating hundreds of future Christian leaders each year.

"Our goal in supporting these religions in developing religious education is 
that we hope they can train qualified clergy members so that their religions 
can enjoy better development."

But there is no small irony in the party's new-found enthusiasm for supporting 
the development of religion in China, given Communism's commitment to atheism.
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[proletar] ISLAM dan KRISTEN di CHINA

Setelah beberapa kali rusuh dan coba memberontak, di China, Islam dibatasi 
sejak beberapa tahun ini. Apa reaksi Islam yang asli dalam aniaya?? kalian bisa 
tebak, dan itu dari teladan Muhammad yang terusir dari Mekkah, lalu apa yg ia 
lakukan?? membuat militia bersenjata dan gantian merampoki kafilah dan akhirnya 
menyerbu Mekkah. Kalian pikir itu bisa dilakukan kepada pemerintah komunis 
China??? 


CHINA CRACKDOWN: Islam Could Disappear in 10 Years
Posted: December 16, 2008 | Author: barenakedislam | Filed under: 
EnemyWithin-foreign |32 Comments »
And this is a BAD thing? One day soon, Islam will have to be restricted or 
banned outright in countries where Muslims have tried to impose their beliefs 
and systems on the native population.
After the Beijing Olympics ended and the world's eyes were no longer upon China 
 the government deployed soldiers throughout the province, Uighur rights 
groups say. Security forces made mass arrests of local Muslims and tightened 
surveillance of religious activities in Xinjiang's southern and central 
counties, the rights groups say. In some towns, prayer in public places outside 
the main mosque is forbidden and an imam's sermon is limited to no longer than 
a half-hour.
Since the end of the Olympic Games in late August, the Chinese government's 
crackdown on Uighurs with alleged separatist ties in this oil-rich province has 
escalated. Even though no group has claimed responsibility for the violence, 
Chinese authorities say Islamic separatists are behind it.
As children, Hussein and millions of other young Uighurs never attended the 
religious schools known as madrassas or prayed at mosques because of a 
government ban on Islamic education for those under 18.
"Maybe in 10 years, there will be no more (Islamic) religion in Xinjiang" 
(province), said Hussein.

A Uighur man passes an ad for the Beijing Olympics in Kas... (Ryan Anson / 
Special to The Chronicle)
You don't get to set off deadly bomb attacks in China, as Muslims did during 
the Beijing Olympics, and expect not to get punished for it.

CHINA RESTRICTS ISLAM www.islamonline.net

Chinese authorities have enforced laws restricting Muslims in the northwestern 
region of Xinjiang from practicing their faith. (NY Times photo)

With prayers banned in public areas, private hajj trips not allowed, teaching 
of the Noble Qur'an not allowed in private and students and government 
officials forced to eat during Ramadan, China is enforcing laws and regulations 
restricting the practice of Islam.

In Khotan, signs posted in front of the grand mosque say the weekly Friday 
prayer sermon must not extend beyond than a half-hour.

Prayers in public areas outside the mosque is forbidden and residents are 
banned from worshipping at mosques outside their town.

Under the rules, imams are banned from teaching the Qur'an in private and only 
official versions of the Qur'an are allowed.

Studying Arabic is only allowed at special government schools.Government 
workers are banned from showing the slightest sign of religious devotion. For 
example, a Muslim civil servant could be sacked for donning hijab.



--

KRISTEN DI CHINA

Kristen sedang meledak di China, sekarang diperkirakan sudah 130 juta, lewat 
10% dari penduduk. Dalam satu dekade, pebisnis China menduga, akan berlipat dua 
atau tiga. Kristen China sudah dianiaya habis2an, aku pernah baca buku2 pendeta 
China yang kerjanya keluar masuk penjara demi alasan tidak jelas (beda dengan 
Islam yang pemukanya masuk penjara biasanya karena menghasut bom bunuh diri 
atau pemberontakan). Tetapi sejarah membuktikan, agama Kristen ini akan maju 
jika dianiaya. Suatu kali, seperti halnya Kekaisaran Roma, Korea Selatan, 
Taiwan dan Singapura, China akan diambil alih oleh Kristen. Mendengar fanatisme 
dan keseriusan orang2 kristen China yg kudengar sendiri dari kesaksian mereka, 
trend menunjukkan tidak lama lagi pusat Kristen dunia adalah ... China dan 
Korea Selatan!! 


Christianity in China

By Lauren Green
Fox

Published January 20, 2011
While religion in China may not be a big topic for discussion during President 
Hu Jintao's meeting with President Obama this week, many experts say that an 
explosive growth in Christianity may be transforming the officially atheist 
regime.

According to China Aid, a Texas-based human rights group, the number of 
Christians in China has increased 100-fold since 1949. Current estimates range 
from 80 million to 130 million active members. And one startling estimate from 
a Chinese Christian businessman has that number doubling or even tripling in 
the next generation.

Christianity could become one of the macro forces shaping Chinese culture, say 
experts like Dr. David Aikman, author of "Jesus in Beijing."‬‪

"If the Chinese become Christianized ... which doesn't mean you have a majority 
of people who are Christians, but it means about 25 to 30 percent of people in 
positions of influence, in politics, in culture, in the media. If you have

[proletar] AYU TING TING Dimana dimana dimana tinggalnya sekarang dimana

Ayu Ting Ting

Lirik Lagu Alamat Palsu Ayu Ting Ting

Kemana kemana kemana ku harus mencari kemana
Kekasih tercinta tak tahu rimbanya
Lama tak datang ke rumah
Dimana dimana dimana tinggalnya sekarang dimana

Ke sana kemari membawa alamat
Namun yang ku temui bukan dirinya
Sayang yang ku terima alamat palsu

Ku tanya sama teman-teman semua
Tetapi mereka bilang tidak tahu
Sayang mungkin diriku tlah tertipu
Membuat aku frustrasi dibuatnya

Dimana dimana dimana tinggalnya sekarang dimana

Ke sana kemari membawa alamat
Namun yang ku temui bukan dirinya
Sayang yang ku terima alamat palsu

Ku tanya sama teman-teman semua
Tetapi mereka bilang tidak tahu
Sayang mungkin diriku tlah tertipu
Membuat aku frustrasi dibuatnya

Kemana kemana kemana ku harus mencari kemana
Kekasih tercinta tak tahu rimbanya
Lama tak datang ke rumah
Dimana dimana dimana tinggalnya sekarang dimana


COMMENT: 
Mana ada bukti Muhammad masuk syurga??? Isa Almasih banyak bukti, Isa masih 
sering menampakkan diri sampai sekarang, masih sering bicara melalui para 
channeler, masih disebut dalam pesan2 dari alam lain hingga hari ini, masih 
muncul dalam visiun termasuk raja Solo, masih nolong orang2 yang nyebut 
namanya, masih ditakuti oleh syaitan, dll dll 

Muhammad, mana ?? dimana ...dimana... tinggalnya sekarang dimana ... mari 
kita nyanyikan ... 






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[proletar] Kawin dengan ANAK 7 TAHUN

Muhammad kawin dengan anak 7 tahun, lalu "consummated" artinya dikawini beneran 
alias bahasa moderennya DIENTOTI alias dikawini pada usia 9 tahun. Inilah semua 
bukti ayat2nya dari hadis shahih. inilah perbuatan manusia primitif yang mau 
dipake lagi di dunia moderen sekarang, dengan janji masuk syurga 

Despite Afghan Laws, Eight-Year-Old to Return to Husband After Evidence of Abuse
from Big Peace by Andrew G. Bostom

A three-year-old Afghan girl at her engagement to a cousin aged seven.

Reported by the London Evening Standard, to its own self-described "shock," a 
decade after British troops entered this chronically war-torn Muslim backwater, 
the publication:

has uncovered shocking evidence of an eight-year-old girl who was married 
off to a policeman for cash. She was sold to the officer, in his twenties, in 
clear breach of laws introduced two years ago to protect women. She was then 
the subject of a remarkable battle that symbolises the plight of girls in 
Afghanistan. Her story vividly highlights the failure to bring about social 
reforms in the stricken nation, despite the long presence of British forces. It 
is revealed ahead of tomorrow's 10th anniversary of the first air strikes on 
Afghanistan and is a grim reminder of how once-high hopes for democracy, modern 
justice and social progress there have been dashed.

The child was sold to a member of the Afghan border police, a state 
employee, within the past year by her father in the southern Helmand district 
of Garmsir. A price was agreed with the father and the marriage was duly 
solemnized in a ceremony with a mullah. This was against Afghan state law on 
marriage but the ceremony gave legitimacy and status in the eyes of the 
communities and the families. (Religion of Peace)

The awful plight of this eight-year-old Afghan child was then compounded by an 
almost fittingly tragic and bizarre (to Westerners, or anyone of modern 
sensibilities) "custody battle," resolved, of course, with the appropriate 
Islamic remedy, imposed by Muslim arbiters. Robert Fox, Defense Correspondent 
for the London Evening Standard provides these further unsettling details:

It was agreed in the deal that the groom would not have sex with the bride 
until she had passed puberty. Under current law, the legal lower age for 
marriage is 16. After a few months, the father returned to the bridegroom's 
family to complain. In breach of the contract, the husband had attempted sex 
with the child bride. This was referred, with the help of international 
advisers and counselors, to the legal authorities. The public prosecutor and 
the Haquq, the local arbitrator and a key figure in community justice in 
Afghanistan, were requested to consider a prosecution against the abusive 
husband.

"The child was taken into custody," said my source, a governance adviser from 
the international community. "She was examined by a US Marine doctor and was 
found to have been interfered with (a rather transparent euphemism for sexual 
abuse)." At this point, the authorities decided this was a matter not for the 
law of Afghanistan but community and tribal custom.

That's because Muhammad married Aisha at age six or seven (which is consistent 
with her playing with dolls during the "marriage"), and "consummated" the 
marriage when she was nine, according to Islam's two most trusted and 
"canonical" hadith collectionsthe practice thus becoming "sacralized" as per 
Islam's totalitarian, cloacal system of religio-political "law," the Sharia.

Here is the hard Islamic evidence of Muhammad's "sacralized" behavior towards 
Aisha:

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311: Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported 
that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven 
years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her 
dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years 
old.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88: Narrated Ursa: "The Prophet wrote 
the (marriage contract) with `Aisha while she was six years old and consummated 
his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him 
for nine years (i.e. till his death)."

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Narrated Aisha: "I used to play 
with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to 
play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used 
to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me." 
(The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed 
for `Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, who had not yet reached the 
age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)

Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5981: Aisha reported that she used to play with 
dolls in the presence of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and when her 
playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah's

[proletar] Ajaran MEMBENCI NON-MUSLIM ITU JELAS DALAM ALQURAN