Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries
Hehehe... berhubung si Teddy udah jarang nongol, maka gua masukin deh lu ke dlm the Big 3 dlm kontes Proletar Idiot bersama dgn Abbas Amin dan rezameutia menggantikan si Teddy. From: Musik hari Ini >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 10:59 AM >Subject: Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries > > > >Ini type postingan konyollu yang tiap2 hari lu kunyah2 kayak kambing goblok >belajar pakai otak kalau pamer kegoblokan biar lucu nanti nya kudu pakai otak > >kalau hanya seperti ini baik nya elu belajar dulu jadi orang normal >tidak ada satupun dari ribuan postingan elu yang pakai akal sehat selama ini > >elu itu pengada paling bodoh yang bercokol di prol. > > >From: item abu >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 4:49 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries > > > >Ternyata posting berisi fatwa itu adalah posting konyol. Berarti fatwa2 itu >adalah konyol. > >Padahal, masih banyak fatwa yg jauh lebih konyol, misalnya fatwa yg bilang spy >cowok dewasa nyusu ke cewek sekantor spy jadi muhrimnya. > > > >From: Musik hari Ini >>To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" >>Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 6:31 AM >>Subject: Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries >> >> >> >>Yang tolol itu elu,jelas2 tiap hari salah melulu >>tapi terus saja bawa posting konyol kesini >>jadi orang pemalu kadang-kadang2 perlu juga >>pertanyaan gua kapan lu posting argument2 yang masuk akal! >>semua postingan elu terlalu dipaksakan >>akhirnya poin22 kebenaran2 yang diharapkan >>hilang begitu saja......blek mendigan lubalik keIgama nenek moyanglu >> >> >>From: item abu >>To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" >>Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 5:36 PM >>Subject: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries >> >> >> >>Hehehe kalo nurut fatwa di bawah ini, Abbas Amin yg kerja di bagian >>keuangan sdh melakukan kegiatan haram. >>Fatwa2 di bawah ini ga terlalu konyol, msh banyak fatwa lain yg super tolol, >>konyol dan biadab. >>Tp orang Islam akan ngoceh bhw fatwa itu ga mengikat, hehehe... spy mereka ga >>ikut konyol, padahal fatwa itu dikeluarkan oleh ahli Islam, bukan orang2 >>tolol ga ngerti Islam kayak orang2 Islam di milis ini. >> >>http://mail.dailypioneer.com/columnists/item/50998-i%E2%80%99ve-three-wives-and-other-such-queries.html >> >>I’ve three wives and other such queries >>Author: Kanchan Gupta >>Or, can I use a webcam? >> >>Last Sunday we visited the world offatwas issued by Darul Ifta, which is >>considered “one of the most significant departments” of Darul Uloom Deoband, >>globally recognised as an influential centre of Islamic theology which was >>founded on May 30, 1866. Darul Ifta is charged with the responsibility of >>interpreting Islam for followers of the faith and ensuring the application of >>the tenets of this religion in the everyday lives of Muslims — only Sunnis, >>as all other sects are deemed to be “not Muslims” as “their books are against >>the Quran and Hadith” (Fatwa 989/844=B-1429). >> >>Darul Ifta, set up in 1892, draws its importance from both communal and >>secular sources. The institution, which has till now issued seven lakh >>fatwas, or perhaps more, is candid about the influence it wields: “The fatwas >>of Darul Uloom (are) highly esteemed in and outside the country; besides the >>masses, the law courts in the country also honour them and consider them >>decisive.” In other words, a fatwa issued by Darul Uloom Deoband through >>Darul Ifta is not only seen as binding on the community at home (as also the >>global ummah) but also on the secular courts of the country. The power of the >>Deobandi fatwa, for instance, is reflected in the hounding of what Darul >>Ifta’s maulanas describe as “deviant sects”— Ahmediyas in this case — by the >>faithful at home and abroad, most notably in Pakistan. >> >>It may be tempting to contest Darul Ifta’s claim — many Muslims are >>reluctant, if not loath, to be guided by religious injunctions by maulanas >>and the courts are unlikely to take such notions of over-riding supremacy >>kindly — but that is a debate best left for another day. For the moment, let >>us further explore the world of Darul Uloom Deoband with the help of Darul >>Ifta’s fatwas that cover every possible aspect of a believer’s life. The >>previous article publ
Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries
Ini type postingan konyollu yang tiap2 hari lu kunyah2 kayak kambing goblok belajar pakai otak kalau pamer kegoblokan biar lucu nanti nya kudu pakai otak kalau hanya seperti ini baik nya elu belajar dulu jadi orang normal tidak ada satupun dari ribuan postingan elu yang pakai akal sehat selama ini elu itu pengada paling bodoh yang bercokol di prol. From: item abu To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries Ternyata posting berisi fatwa itu adalah posting konyol. Berarti fatwa2 itu adalah konyol. Padahal, masih banyak fatwa yg jauh lebih konyol, misalnya fatwa yg bilang spy cowok dewasa nyusu ke cewek sekantor spy jadi muhrimnya. From: Musik hari Ini >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 6:31 AM >Subject: Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries > > > >Yang tolol itu elu,jelas2 tiap hari salah melulu >tapi terus saja bawa posting konyol kesini >jadi orang pemalu kadang-kadang2 perlu juga >pertanyaan gua kapan lu posting argument2 yang masuk akal! >semua postingan elu terlalu dipaksakan >akhirnya poin22 kebenaran2 yang diharapkan >hilang begitu saja..blek mendigan lubalik keIgama nenek moyanglu > > >From: item abu >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 5:36 PM >Subject: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries > > > >Hehehe kalo nurut fatwa di bawah ini, Abbas Amin yg kerja di bagian >keuangan sdh melakukan kegiatan haram. >Fatwa2 di bawah ini ga terlalu konyol, msh banyak fatwa lain yg super tolol, >konyol dan biadab. >Tp orang Islam akan ngoceh bhw fatwa itu ga mengikat, hehehe... spy mereka ga >ikut konyol, padahal fatwa itu dikeluarkan oleh ahli Islam, bukan orang2 tolol >ga ngerti Islam kayak orang2 Islam di milis ini. > >http://mail.dailypioneer.com/columnists/item/50998-i%E2%80%99ve-three-wives-and-other-such-queries.html > >I’ve three wives and other such queries >Author: Kanchan Gupta >Or, can I use a webcam? > >Last Sunday we visited the world offatwas issued by Darul Ifta, which is >considered “one of the most significant departments” of Darul Uloom Deoband, >globally recognised as an influential centre of Islamic theology which was >founded on May 30, 1866. Darul Ifta is charged with the responsibility of >interpreting Islam for followers of the faith and ensuring the application of >the tenets of this religion in the everyday lives of Muslims — only Sunnis, as >all other sects are deemed to be “not Muslims” as “their books are against the >Quran and Hadith” (Fatwa 989/844=B-1429). > >Darul Ifta, set up in 1892, draws its importance from both communal and >secular sources. The institution, which has till now issued seven lakh fatwas, >or perhaps more, is candid about the influence it wields: “The fatwas of Darul >Uloom (are) highly esteemed in and outside the country; besides the masses, >the law courts in the country also honour them and consider them decisive.” In >other words, a fatwa issued by Darul Uloom Deoband through Darul Ifta is not >only seen as binding on the community at home (as also the global ummah) but >also on the secular courts of the country. The power of the Deobandi fatwa, >for instance, is reflected in the hounding of what Darul Ifta’s maulanas >describe as “deviant sects”— Ahmediyas in this case — by the faithful at home >and abroad, most notably in Pakistan. > >It may be tempting to contest Darul Ifta’s claim — many Muslims are reluctant, >if not loath, to be guided by religious injunctions by maulanas and the courts >are unlikely to take such notions of over-riding supremacy kindly — but that >is a debate best left for another day. For the moment, let us further explore >the world of Darul Uloom Deoband with the help of Darul Ifta’s fatwas that >cover every possible aspect of a believer’s life. The previous article >published in this column had cited a random selection of fatwas issued by >Darul Ifta. This Sunday, the effort is on looking at fatwas that concern >specific concerns of Muslim men and women. Reproduced below is a selection of >suchfatwas as they appear on Darul Ifta’s website; only spellings have been >corrected: > >Question 32651:I have three wives and my third wife has one daughter of age 10 >years from her first husband and she took khula eight years before from her >first husband. Since that time her daughter is staying with my third wife, her >husband did not see her daughter till date and he did not pay any money for >her daughter. I married with my third wife in 2008 and by the grace o
Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries
Ternyata posting berisi fatwa itu adalah posting konyol. Berarti fatwa2 itu adalah konyol. Padahal, masih banyak fatwa yg jauh lebih konyol, misalnya fatwa yg bilang spy cowok dewasa nyusu ke cewek sekantor spy jadi muhrimnya. From: Musik hari Ini >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 6:31 AM >Subject: Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries > > > >Yang tolol itu elu,jelas2 tiap hari salah melulu >tapi terus saja bawa posting konyol kesini >jadi orang pemalu kadang-kadang2 perlu juga >pertanyaan gua kapan lu posting argument2 yang masuk akal! >semua postingan elu terlalu dipaksakan >akhirnya poin22 kebenaran2 yang diharapkan >hilang begitu saja..blek mendigan lubalik keIgama nenek moyanglu > > >From: item abu >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 5:36 PM >Subject: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries > > > >Hehehe kalo nurut fatwa di bawah ini, Abbas Amin yg kerja di bagian >keuangan sdh melakukan kegiatan haram. >Fatwa2 di bawah ini ga terlalu konyol, msh banyak fatwa lain yg super tolol, >konyol dan biadab. >Tp orang Islam akan ngoceh bhw fatwa itu ga mengikat, hehehe... spy mereka ga >ikut konyol, padahal fatwa itu dikeluarkan oleh ahli Islam, bukan orang2 tolol >ga ngerti Islam kayak orang2 Islam di milis ini. > >http://mail.dailypioneer.com/columnists/item/50998-i%E2%80%99ve-three-wives-and-other-such-queries.html > >I’ve three wives and other such queries >Author: Kanchan Gupta >Or, can I use a webcam? > >Last Sunday we visited the world offatwas issued by Darul Ifta, which is >considered “one of the most significant departments” of Darul Uloom Deoband, >globally recognised as an influential centre of Islamic theology which was >founded on May 30, 1866. Darul Ifta is charged with the responsibility of >interpreting Islam for followers of the faith and ensuring the application of >the tenets of this religion in the everyday lives of Muslims — only Sunnis, as >all other sects are deemed to be “not Muslims” as “their books are against the >Quran and Hadith” (Fatwa 989/844=B-1429). > >Darul Ifta, set up in 1892, draws its importance from both communal and >secular sources. The institution, which has till now issued seven lakh fatwas, >or perhaps more, is candid about the influence it wields: “The fatwas of Darul >Uloom (are) highly esteemed in and outside the country; besides the masses, >the law courts in the country also honour them and consider them decisive.” In >other words, a fatwa issued by Darul Uloom Deoband through Darul Ifta is not >only seen as binding on the community at home (as also the global ummah) but >also on the secular courts of the country. The power of the Deobandi fatwa, >for instance, is reflected in the hounding of what Darul Ifta’s maulanas >describe as “deviant sects”— Ahmediyas in this case — by the faithful at home >and abroad, most notably in Pakistan. > >It may be tempting to contest Darul Ifta’s claim — many Muslims are reluctant, >if not loath, to be guided by religious injunctions by maulanas and the courts >are unlikely to take such notions of over-riding supremacy kindly — but that >is a debate best left for another day. For the moment, let us further explore >the world of Darul Uloom Deoband with the help of Darul Ifta’s fatwas that >cover every possible aspect of a believer’s life. The previous article >published in this column had cited a random selection of fatwas issued by >Darul Ifta. This Sunday, the effort is on looking at fatwas that concern >specific concerns of Muslim men and women. Reproduced below is a selection of >suchfatwas as they appear on Darul Ifta’s website; only spellings have been >corrected: > >Question 32651:I have three wives and my third wife has one daughter of age 10 >years from her first husband and she took khula eight years before from her >first husband. Since that time her daughter is staying with my third wife, her >husband did not see her daughter till date and he did not pay any money for >her daughter. I married with my third wife in 2008 and by the grace of Allah I >am paying all expenses for my third wife and her daughter. My questions are: >1.First husband is liable to ask possession of his daughter at any time in >life? 2.If he demands possession of his daughter then what to do in this >regard? 3.What will be my status with regards to my wife’s daughter in terms >of mahram? > >Fatwa 1055/1055/M=1432:(1)Her previous husband, ie, the father of the girl, >can claim the custody of his daughter. He shall be sinful for not taking any >care of his daughter until now. (2)W
Re: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries
Yang tolol itu elu,jelas2 tiap hari salah melulu tapi terus saja bawa posting konyol kesini jadi orang pemalu kadang-kadang2 perlu juga pertanyaan gua kapan lu posting argument2 yang masuk akal! semua postingan elu terlalu dipaksakan akhirnya poin22 kebenaran2 yang diharapkan hilang begitu saja..blek mendigan lubalik keIgama nenek moyanglu From: item abu To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 5:36 PM Subject: [proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries Hehehe kalo nurut fatwa di bawah ini, Abbas Amin yg kerja di bagian keuangan sdh melakukan kegiatan haram. Fatwa2 di bawah ini ga terlalu konyol, msh banyak fatwa lain yg super tolol, konyol dan biadab. Tp orang Islam akan ngoceh bhw fatwa itu ga mengikat, hehehe... spy mereka ga ikut konyol, padahal fatwa itu dikeluarkan oleh ahli Islam, bukan orang2 tolol ga ngerti Islam kayak orang2 Islam di milis ini. http://mail.dailypioneer.com/columnists/item/50998-i%E2%80%99ve-three-wives-and-other-such-queries.html I’ve three wives and other such queries Author: Kanchan Gupta Or, can I use a webcam? Last Sunday we visited the world offatwas issued by Darul Ifta, which is considered “one of the most significant departments” of Darul Uloom Deoband, globally recognised as an influential centre of Islamic theology which was founded on May 30, 1866. Darul Ifta is charged with the responsibility of interpreting Islam for followers of the faith and ensuring the application of the tenets of this religion in the everyday lives of Muslims — only Sunnis, as all other sects are deemed to be “not Muslims” as “their books are against the Quran and Hadith” (Fatwa 989/844=B-1429). Darul Ifta, set up in 1892, draws its importance from both communal and secular sources. The institution, which has till now issued seven lakh fatwas, or perhaps more, is candid about the influence it wields: “The fatwas of Darul Uloom (are) highly esteemed in and outside the country; besides the masses, the law courts in the country also honour them and consider them decisive.” In other words, a fatwa issued by Darul Uloom Deoband through Darul Ifta is not only seen as binding on the community at home (as also the global ummah) but also on the secular courts of the country. The power of the Deobandi fatwa, for instance, is reflected in the hounding of what Darul Ifta’s maulanas describe as “deviant sects”— Ahmediyas in this case — by the faithful at home and abroad, most notably in Pakistan. It may be tempting to contest Darul Ifta’s claim — many Muslims are reluctant, if not loath, to be guided by religious injunctions by maulanas and the courts are unlikely to take such notions of over-riding supremacy kindly — but that is a debate best left for another day. For the moment, let us further explore the world of Darul Uloom Deoband with the help of Darul Ifta’s fatwas that cover every possible aspect of a believer’s life. The previous article published in this column had cited a random selection of fatwas issued by Darul Ifta. This Sunday, the effort is on looking at fatwas that concern specific concerns of Muslim men and women. Reproduced below is a selection of suchfatwas as they appear on Darul Ifta’s website; only spellings have been corrected: Question 32651:I have three wives and my third wife has one daughter of age 10 years from her first husband and she took khula eight years before from her first husband. Since that time her daughter is staying with my third wife, her husband did not see her daughter till date and he did not pay any money for her daughter. I married with my third wife in 2008 and by the grace of Allah I am paying all expenses for my third wife and her daughter. My questions are: 1.First husband is liable to ask possession of his daughter at any time in life? 2.If he demands possession of his daughter then what to do in this regard? 3.What will be my status with regards to my wife’s daughter in terms of mahram? Fatwa 1055/1055/M=1432:(1)Her previous husband, ie, the father of the girl, can claim the custody of his daughter. He shall be sinful for not taking any care of his daughter until now. (2)When the girl attains puberty, she shall be free to choose whether to live with her mother or father. Father cannot compel her after she attains puberty to keep her with him. Yes, he may claim before it. If he claims and there is no fear of any harm, she should be given to the father. (3)If you have had intercourse with your third wife, her daughter became haram for you and you became her mahram forever. Question 24487:As per the Islamic law, can a person study the course of chartered accountant? Fatwa 1237/964/D=1431:Yes, it is lawful to study the course of chartered accountant. However, it will not be lawful to record interest-based accounts. Question 19472:Can you please tell me (whether the) reading of books,
[proletar] I’ve three wives and other such queries
Hehehe kalo nurut fatwa di bawah ini, Abbas Amin yg kerja di bagian keuangan sdh melakukan kegiatan haram. Fatwa2 di bawah ini ga terlalu konyol, msh banyak fatwa lain yg super tolol, konyol dan biadab. Tp orang Islam akan ngoceh bhw fatwa itu ga mengikat, hehehe... spy mereka ga ikut konyol, padahal fatwa itu dikeluarkan oleh ahli Islam, bukan orang2 tolol ga ngerti Islam kayak orang2 Islam di milis ini. http://mail.dailypioneer.com/columnists/item/50998-i%E2%80%99ve-three-wives-and-other-such-queries.html I’ve three wives and other such queries Author: Kanchan Gupta Or, can I use a webcam? Last Sunday we visited the world offatwas issued by Darul Ifta, which is considered “one of the most significant departments” of Darul Uloom Deoband, globally recognised as an influential centre of Islamic theology which was founded on May 30, 1866. Darul Ifta is charged with the responsibility of interpreting Islam for followers of the faith and ensuring the application of the tenets of this religion in the everyday lives of Muslims — only Sunnis, as all other sects are deemed to be “not Muslims” as “their books are against the Quran and Hadith” (Fatwa 989/844=B-1429). Darul Ifta, set up in 1892, draws its importance from both communal and secular sources. The institution, which has till now issued seven lakh fatwas, or perhaps more, is candid about the influence it wields: “The fatwas of Darul Uloom (are) highly esteemed in and outside the country; besides the masses, the law courts in the country also honour them and consider them decisive.” In other words, a fatwa issued by Darul Uloom Deoband through Darul Ifta is not only seen as binding on the community at home (as also the global ummah) but also on the secular courts of the country. The power of the Deobandi fatwa, for instance, is reflected in the hounding of what Darul Ifta’s maulanas describe as “deviant sects”— Ahmediyas in this case — by the faithful at home and abroad, most notably in Pakistan. It may be tempting to contest Darul Ifta’s claim — many Muslims are reluctant, if not loath, to be guided by religious injunctions by maulanas and the courts are unlikely to take such notions of over-riding supremacy kindly — but that is a debate best left for another day. For the moment, let us further explore the world of Darul Uloom Deoband with the help of Darul Ifta’s fatwas that cover every possible aspect of a believer’s life. The previous article published in this column had cited a random selection of fatwas issued by Darul Ifta. This Sunday, the effort is on looking at fatwas that concern specific concerns of Muslim men and women. Reproduced below is a selection of suchfatwas as they appear on Darul Ifta’s website; only spellings have been corrected: Question 32651:I have three wives and my third wife has one daughter of age 10 years from her first husband and she took khula eight years before from her first husband. Since that time her daughter is staying with my third wife, her husband did not see her daughter till date and he did not pay any money for her daughter. I married with my third wife in 2008 and by the grace of Allah I am paying all expenses for my third wife and her daughter. My questions are: 1.First husband is liable to ask possession of his daughter at any time in life? 2.If he demands possession of his daughter then what to do in this regard? 3.What will be my status with regards to my wife’s daughter in terms of mahram? Fatwa 1055/1055/M=1432:(1)Her previous husband, ie, the father of the girl, can claim the custody of his daughter. He shall be sinful for not taking any care of his daughter until now. (2)When the girl attains puberty, she shall be free to choose whether to live with her mother or father. Father cannot compel her after she attains puberty to keep her with him. Yes, he may claim before it. If he claims and there is no fear of any harm, she should be given to the father. (3)If you have had intercourse with your third wife, her daughter became haram for you and you became her mahram forever. Question 24487:As per the Islamic law, can a person study the course of chartered accountant? Fatwa 1237/964/D=1431:Yes, it is lawful to study the course of chartered accountant. However, it will not be lawful to record interest-based accounts. Question 19472:Can you please tell me (whether the) reading of books, newspapers (English) is allowed in washroom or not? Fatwa 193/193/M=1431: Bathroom is not a place to read books and newspapers whether they are in English (or any other language), they should not be studied therein. Question 18576: Hazrat Mufti Sahab, kindly advice maximum time for breast feeding for a girl child?Is breast feeding more than two years haram? Fatwa 20/18/B=1431:According to preferred opinion, the period of breastfeeding to an infant is two years; breastfeeding after tow years is unlawful... (text in Arabic). Question 14505:Sup
