[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap di AS. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > deportation. > > By KIRK SEMPLE > Published: December 6, 2011 > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was spared > deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual agreement with > immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the country temporarily. > The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be able to stay and work, but > the permission could be rescinded at any moment. > > > Follow @NYTMetro > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and headlines. > > Enlarge This Image > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter Jocelyn, 9, > read his letter to President Obama. > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale, had > appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with extra time, they would be > able to figure out a way to secure permanent legal status, either though the > courts or with the passage of immigration reform legislation in Washington. > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of humanitarian > release for illegal immigrants without criminal records and with deep ties to > the community. > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled persecution of > Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received letters from the Department > of Homeland Security ordering them to appear at the agencyâs Newark office, > a one-way ticket to Indonesia in hand. > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to immigration officials > for continued lenience and lobbying members of the stateâs Legislature and > Congressional delegation to intervene. > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York and Frank > Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to submit a bill that would > provide relief to many of the Indonesians. The bill would allow certain > Indonesians who fled persecution in their homeland between 1997 and 2002 to > resubmit asylum claims that had been denied because they missed a one-year > filing deadline. > > âIt feels so un-American to not make room to keep families together, > especially when folks came out of a time and place where there was tremendous > violence,â Mr. Kaper-Dale said in a telephone interview on Tuesday as he > led a 24-hour vigil and fast at his parish, the Reformed Church of Highland > Park, N.J., in support of the Indonesians. > > The advocates said the decision to end the so-called orders of supervision > was surprising in light of recent assurances by the Obama administration that > it would focus its enforcement strategy on illegal immigrants with criminal > records, while sparing those with strong ties to the community and no > criminal record. > > In June, senior officials at the Homeland Security Department announced a > policy to encourage immigration agents and lawyers to use prosecutorial > discretion when deciding whether to pursue deportation. The policy expanded > the factors immigration authorities can take into account in such decisions, > including how long an illegal immigrant has been in the United States and > whether the immigrant was brought to the country as a child. In addition, the > directive gave federal immigration lawyers the authority to dismiss > deportation proceedings against immigrants without serious criminal records. > > Last month, Homeland Security officials, seeking to speed deportation of > convicted criminals, said they would begin a review of all deportation cases > in the immigration courts and begin training enforcement agents and > government lawyers in the application of the new prosecutorial discretion > guidelines. > > Mr. Kaper-Dale said all the Indonesians he had been helping would seem to be > worthy candidates for this sort of relief. Most have been in the country for > at least a decade and have American-born children, steady jobs and no > criminal records, he said. > > Most of the Indonesians have filed requests for prosecutorial discretion, he > said. âIf these folks were good enough for discretion two years ago, why > arenât they good enough for discretion now?â the pastor asked. > > Officials at Immigration and Customs Enforcement, an arm of Homeland > Security, would no
[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan Teddy yang adalah oportunis bertgabiat menjijikkan ini berkata: "Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap di AS. " Omongan orang yang mau menikmati sendiri saja hidup enak di negeri maju.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap di > AS. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > deportation. > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was spared > > deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual agreement with > > immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the country > > temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be able to stay > > and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any moment. > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and headlines. > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter Jocelyn, > > 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale, > > had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with extra time, they > > would be able to figure out a way to secure permanent legal status, either > > though the courts or with the passage of immigration reform legislation in > > Washington. > > > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of > > humanitarian release for illegal immigrants without criminal records and > > with deep ties to the community. > > > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled persecution of > > Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received letters from the > > Department of Homeland Security ordering them to appear at the agencyâs > > Newark office, a one-way ticket to Indonesia in hand. > > > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to immigration officials > > for continued lenience and lobbying members of the stateâs Legislature > > and Congressional delegation to intervene. > > > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York and Frank > > Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to submit a bill that would > > provide relief to many of the Indonesians. The bill would allow certain > > Indonesians who fled persecution in their homeland between 1997 and 2002 to > > resubmit asylum claims that had been denied because they missed a one-year > > filing deadline. > > > > âIt feels so un-American to not make room to keep families together, > > especially when folks came out of a time and place where there was > > tremendous violence,â Mr. Kaper-Dale said in a telephone interview on > > Tuesday as he led a 24-hour vigil and fast at his parish, the Reformed > > Church of Highland Park, N.J., in support of the Indonesians. > > > > The advocates said the decision to end the so-called orders of supervision > > was surprising in light of recent assurances by the Obama administration > > that it would focus its enforcement strategy on illegal immigrants with > > criminal records, while sparing those with strong ties to the community and > > no criminal record. > > > > In June, senior officials at the Homeland Security Department announced a > > policy to encourage immigration agents and lawyers to use prosecutorial > > discretion when deciding whether to pursue deportation. The policy expanded > > the factors immigration authorities can take into account in such > > decisions, including how long an illegal immigrant has been in the United > > States and whether the immigrant was brought to the country as a child. In > > addition, the directive gave federal immigration lawyers the authority to > > dismiss deportation proceedings against immigrants without serious criminal > > records. > > > > Last month, Homeland Security officials, seeking to speed deportation of > > convicted criminals, said they would begin a review of all deportation > > cases in the immigration courts and begin training enforcement agents and > > government lawyers in the application of the new prosecutorial discretion > > guidelines. > > > > Mr. Kaper-
[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Saya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini. Buktinya kalau memang kesaksian mereka memang benar, tentu Pemerintah AS akan memberikan visa tinggal bagi mereka. Orang memasuki negara lain itu dengan cara yang legal dan bukan dengan cara menipu. Saat dulu untuk mendapatkan visa penduduk tetap Australia, saya lulus ujian tertulis selama 3 jam hingga layak menjadi anggota Institution of Engineers, Australia. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > Tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan Teddy yang adalah oportunis bertgabiat > menjijikkan ini berkata: > > "Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap di > AS. " > > Omongan orang yang mau menikmati sendiri saja hidup enak di negeri maju.. > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap > > di AS. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > > deportation. > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was > > > spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual > > > agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the > > > country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be > > > able to stay and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any > > > moment. > > > > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and > > > headlines. > > > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter > > > Jocelyn, 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale, > > > had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with extra time, they > > > would be able to figure out a way to secure permanent legal status, > > > either though the courts or with the passage of immigration reform > > > legislation in Washington. > > > > > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of > > > humanitarian release for illegal immigrants without criminal records and > > > with deep ties to the community. > > > > > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > > > > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled persecution > > > of Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received letters from the > > > Department of Homeland Security ordering them to appear at the agencyâs > > > Newark office, a one-way ticket to Indonesia in hand. > > > > > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to immigration > > > officials for continued lenience and lobbying members of the stateâs > > > Legislature and Congressional delegation to intervene. > > > > > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York and Frank > > > Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to submit a bill that > > > would provide relief to many of the Indonesians. The bill would allow > > > certain Indonesians who fled persecution in their homeland between 1997 > > > and 2002 to resubmit asylum claims that had been denied because they > > > missed a one-year filing deadline. > > > > > > âIt feels so un-American to not make room to keep families together, > > > especially when folks came out of a time and place where there was > > > tremendous violence,â Mr. Kaper-Dale said in a telephone interview on > > > Tuesday as he led a 24-hour vigil and fast at his parish, the Reformed > > > Church of Highland Park, N.J., in support of the Indonesians. > > > > > > The advocates said the decision to end the so-called orders of > > > supervision was surprising in light of recent assurances by the Obama > > > administration that it would focus its enforcement strategy on illegal > > > immigrants with criminal records, while sparing those with strong ties to > > > the community and no criminal record. > > > > > > In June, senior officials at the Homeland Security Department announced a > > > policy to encourage immigration agents and lawyers to use prosecutorial > > > discretion when deciding whether to pursue deportation. The policy > > > expanded the factors immigration authorities can take into account in > > > such decisions, includ
[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Jadi Teddy yang katanya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini nggak bisa bawa buktinya... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > Saya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini. Buktinya kalau memang kesaksian > mereka memang benar, tentu Pemerintah AS akan memberikan visa tinggal bagi > mereka. Orang memasuki negara lain itu dengan cara yang legal dan bukan > dengan cara menipu. Saat dulu untuk mendapatkan visa penduduk tetap > Australia, saya lulus ujian tertulis selama 3 jam hingga layak menjadi > anggota Institution of Engineers, Australia. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > Tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan Teddy yang adalah oportunis bertgabiat > > menjijikkan ini berkata: > > > > "Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap > > di AS. " > > > > Omongan orang yang mau menikmati sendiri saja hidup enak di negeri maju.. > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar > > > bisa menetap di AS. > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > > > deportation. > > > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was > > > > spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual > > > > agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the > > > > country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be > > > > able to stay and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any > > > > moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and > > > > headlines. > > > > > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter > > > > Jocelyn, 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth > > > > Kaper-Dale, had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with > > > > extra time, they would be able to figure out a way to secure permanent > > > > legal status, either though the courts or with the passage of > > > > immigration reform legislation in Washington. > > > > > > > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of > > > > humanitarian release for illegal immigrants without criminal records > > > > and with deep ties to the community. > > > > > > > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > > > > > > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled persecution > > > > of Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received letters from the > > > > Department of Homeland Security ordering them to appear at the > > > > agencyâs Newark office, a one-way ticket to Indonesia in hand. > > > > > > > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to immigration > > > > officials for continued lenience and lobbying members of the stateâs > > > > Legislature and Congressional delegation to intervene. > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York and Frank > > > > Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to submit a bill that > > > > would provide relief to many of the Indonesians. The bill would allow > > > > certain Indonesians who fled persecution in their homeland between 1997 > > > > and 2002 to resubmit asylum claims that had been denied because they > > > > missed a one-year filing deadline. > > > > > > > > âIt feels so un-American to not make room to keep families together, > > > > especially when folks came out of a time and place where there was > > > > tremendous violence,â Mr. Kaper-Dale said in a telephone interview on > > > > Tuesday as he led a 24-hour vigil and fast at his parish, the Reformed > > > > Church of Highland Park, N.J., in support of the Indonesians. > > > > > > > > The advocates said the decision to end the so-called orders of > > > > supervision was surprising in light of recent assurances by the Obama > > > > administration that it would focus its enforcement strategy on illegal > > > > immigrants with criminal records, while sparing those with strong ties > > > > to the community and no criminal record. > > > >
[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Hingga sampai-sampai bersaksi dusta? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda berdiam > pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti Anda merasa > tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah ketempat lain > atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama halnya orang > yang dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, sekalipun mahal harganya. > Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di Indonesia, sekalipun agama > mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk Indonesia. > > From: Teddy S. > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > Jersey to Leave > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap di > AS. > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > deportation. > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was spared > > deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual agreement with > > immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the country > > temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be able to stay > > and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any moment. > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and headlines. > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter Jocelyn, > > 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale, > > had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with extra time, they > > would be able to figure out a way to secure permanent legal status, either > > though the courts or with the passage of immigration reform legislation in > > Washington. > > > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of > > humanitarian release for illegal immigrants without criminal records and > > with deep ties to the community. > > > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled persecution of > > Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received letters from the > > Department of Homeland Security ordering them to appear at the > > agencyâÂÂs Newark office, a one-way ticket to Indonesia in hand. > > > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to immigration officials > > for continued lenience and lobbying members of the stateâÂÂs Legislature > > and Congressional delegation to intervene. > > > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York and Frank > > Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to submit a bill that would > > provide relief to many of the Indonesians. The bill would allow certain > > Indonesians who fled persecution in their homeland between 1997 and 2002 to > > resubmit asylum claims that had been denied because they missed a one-year > > filing deadline. > > > > âÂÂIt feels so un-American to not make room to keep families together, > > especially when folks came out of a time and place where there was > > tremendous violence,â Mr. Kaper-Dale said in a telephone interview on > > Tuesday as he led a 24-hour vigil and fast at his parish, the Reformed > > Church of Highland Park, N.J., in support of the Indonesians. > > > > The advocates said the decision to end the so-called orders of supervision > > was surprising in light of recent assurances by the Obama administration > > that it would focus its enforcement strategy on illegal immigrants with > > criminal records, while sparing those with strong ties to the community and > > no criminal record. > > > > In June, senior officials at the Homeland Sec
[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Ya ampun... Sampai begini menjijikkannya fikiran Suryana ini hingga dia membantah ada orang Tionghoa dari Indonesia yang cari selamat ke Amerika. Pada hal kita baca berita bahwa di Amerika ada pendeta yang membantu mereka yang cari selamat itu. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "suryana" wrote: > > Apakah cina cina yg ke amerika mencari selamat ?di amerika mereka > saling tipu, cina Indonesia di amerika tidak pernah kompak, yg ada tipu > menipu sesama cina asal Indonesia, sampai sampai peristiwa Mei dijadikan > acara tahunan dengan membuat bazar dengan hasil nanti bisa untung.. > Jadi adalah orang dodol yg percaya cina Indonesia ke Amerika mencari > selamat, buktinya banyak lulusan Amerika tinggal di Indonesia dan malah jadi > konglomerat sialan. > > - Original Message - > From: "Sunny" > > Berdusta untuk cari selamat. > > From: Teddy S. > > Hingga sampai-sampai bersaksi dusta? > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda berdiam > > pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti Anda merasa > > tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah ketempat > > lain atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama halnya > > orang yang dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, sekalipun mahal > > harganya. Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di Indonesia, > > sekalipun agama mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk Indonesia. > > > > From: Teddy S. > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > > Jersey to Leave > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap > > di AS. > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Ataukah untuk kehidupan dan masa depan yang lebih cerah untuk anak-anak mereka? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > Berdusta untuk cari selamat. > > From: Teddy S. > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:36 AM > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > Jersey to Leave > > > Hingga sampai-sampai bersaksi dusta? > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda berdiam > > pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti Anda merasa > > tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah ketempat lain > > atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama halnya orang > > yang dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, sekalipun mahal > > harganya. Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di Indonesia, > > sekalipun agama mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk Indonesia. > > > > From: Teddy S. > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > > Jersey to Leave > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap > > di AS. > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > > deportation. > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was > > > spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual > > > agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the > > > country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be > > > able to stay and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any > > > moment. > > > > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and > > > headlines. > > > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter > > > Jocelyn, 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale, > > > had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with extra time, they > > > would be able to figure out a way to secure permanent legal status, > > > either though the courts or with the passage of immigration reform > > > legislation in Washington. > > > > > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of > > > humanitarian release for illegal immigrants without criminal records and > > > with deep ties to the community. > > > > > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > > > > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled persecution > > > of Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received letters from the > > > Department of Homeland Security ordering them to appear at the > > > agencyâÃÂÃÂs Newark office, a one-way ticket to Indonesia in hand. > > > > > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to immigration > > > officials for continued lenience and lobbying members of the > > > stateâÃÂÃÂs Legislature and Congressional delegation to intervene. > > > > > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York and Frank > > > Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to submit a bill that > > > would provide relief to many of the Indonesians. The bill would allow > > > certain Indonesians who fled persecution in their homeland between 1997 > > > and 2002 to resubmit asylum claims that had been denied because they > > > missed a one-year filing deadline. > > > &g
[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Ada perbedaan dalam hal ini di mana daerah tujuan transmigrasi merupakan daerah yang relatif terkebelakang dengan jumlah penduduk sedikit. Sementara AS adalah tempat yang jauh lebih maju dengan jumlah penduduk cukup padat. Transmigrasi merupakan kebijakan Pemerintah, sementara yang lain adalah inisiatif pribadi. Satu hal positif dari mereka adalah bersihnya dari melakukan kejahatan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > Inti masalahnya tidak beda dengan transmigrasi yang dikirim ke berbargai > daerah di dalam Indonesia, orang yang bertransmigrasi misalnya dari Jawa ke > Sumatera, Kalimatan, Maluku dan Papua, adalah tidak lain karena mereka ingin > hari depan yang layak untuk mereka dan anak-anak mereka. Tetapi, orang > transmigran ini ada juga, yang curang, yaitu dibawa bersama lonte-lonte > dengan alasan mereka ada adik, kakak perempuan, ditempat baru mereka buka > bisnis pinjit etc. Ini bisa dilakukan karena tidak ada nama keluarga, > seperti, Andries, soulisa, hajar, said, de Costa.. > > Oranhg-orang Jawa yang didatangkan ke Maluku 150 tahun itu rata-rata tidak > punya nama keluarga, hanya satu nama saja. Karena di Maluku berlaku nama > marga, maka orang-orang Jawa itu juga harus punya nama keluarga, tidak > pusing-pusing dicari nama, dipakai nama kota tempat mereka berasal, maka oleh > karena itu ada orang dari Maluku yang namanya Djokja, Semarang, Banyumas, > Cheribon, Magelang. Satu keluarga yang tetap pegang namanya ialah Tjokro, > turunannya selalu pakai belangkong, rupanya orang bangsawan. Saya dengar > famili Tjokro ini semua pindah ke Belanda. Orang-orang Jawa ini asal > diexilkan oleh pemerintah dengan tuduhan pengikut Diponegoro. > > > > From: Teddy S. > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:55 PM > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > Jersey to Leave > > > Ataukah untuk kehidupan dan masa depan yang lebih cerah untuk anak-anak > mereka? > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > Berdusta untuk cari selamat. > > > > From: Teddy S. > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:36 AM > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > > Jersey to Leave > > > > > > Hingga sampai-sampai bersaksi dusta? > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda > > > berdiam pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti > > > Anda merasa tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah > > > ketempat lain atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama > > > halnya orang yang dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, > > > sekalipun mahal harganya. Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di > > > Indonesia, sekalipun agama mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk > > > Indonesia. > > > > > > From: Teddy S. > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM > > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > > > Jersey to Leave > > > > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar > > > bisa menetap di AS. > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > > > deportation. > > > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was > > > > spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual > > > > agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the > > > > country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be > > > > able to stay and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any
[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Sudah tua maunya masih minta disuapin aja. Nih, beritanya yang gampang sudah dalam bahasa Indonesia. --- Mayoritas mengajukan suaka berdasarkan kekerasan terkait agama. Namun, semuanya ditolak karena mereka telah tinggal lebih dari setahun yang merupakan batas waktu pengajuan suaka setelah mereka tiba di AS. --- http://internasional.kompas.com/read/2011/12/08/09364282/Hendak.Dideportasi.72.WNI.Cari.Suaka.di.AS Orang yang minta suaka biasanya langsung dilakukan seperti misalnya yang dilakukan orang saat dia baru mendarat di bandara Sydney. Kalau setahun lewat belum dilakukan juga, keasyikan cari duit, alasannnya diragukan kebenarannya. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > Jadi Teddy yang katanya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini nggak bisa bawa > buktinya... > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > Saya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini. Buktinya kalau memang kesaksian > > mereka memang benar, tentu Pemerintah AS akan memberikan visa tinggal bagi > > mereka. Orang memasuki negara lain itu dengan cara yang legal dan bukan > > dengan cara menipu. Saat dulu untuk mendapatkan visa penduduk tetap > > Australia, saya lulus ujian tertulis selama 3 jam hingga layak menjadi > > anggota Institution of Engineers, Australia. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan Teddy yang adalah oportunis bertgabiat > > > menjijikkan ini berkata: > > > > > > "Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar > > > bisa menetap di AS. " > > > > > > Omongan orang yang mau menikmati sendiri saja hidup enak di negeri maju.. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah > > > > agar bisa menetap di AS. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at > > > > > a candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > > > > deportation. > > > > > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was > > > > > spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual > > > > > agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in > > > > > the country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians > > > > > would be able to stay and work, but the permission could be rescinded > > > > > at any moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > > > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and > > > > > headlines. > > > > > > > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter > > > > > Jocelyn, 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > > > > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth > > > > > Kaper-Dale, had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with > > > > > extra time, they would be able to figure out a way to secure > > > > > permanent legal status, either though the courts or with the passage > > > > > of immigration reform legislation in Washington. > > > > > > > > > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of > > > > > humanitarian release for illegal immigrants without criminal records > > > > > and with deep ties to the community. > > > > > > > > > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > > > > > > > > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled > > > > > persecution of Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received > > > > > letters from the Department of Homeland Security ordering them to > > > > > appear at the agencyâs Newark office, a one-way ticket to Indonesia > > > > > in hand. > > > > > > > > > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to immigration > > > > > officials for continued lenience and lobbying members of the > > > > > stateâs Legislature and Congressional delegation to intervene. > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York and > > > > > Frank Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to submit a > > > > > bill that would provide relief to many of the Indonesians. The bill > > > > > would allow certain Indonesians who fled persecution in their > > > > > homeland
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Goblok. Dari berita itu belum jelas apakah mereka memang TIDAK menjadi korban persekusi di Indonedia.. Dibalik itu mereka juga punya argumen untuk tetap tinggal di Amerika: anak mereka yang lahir di Amerika adalah orang Amerika. Yang menjijikkan dengan Teddy ini adalah bahwa, saat orang Amerika sendiri ada yang berusaha menolong orang Indonesia itu, dia justru tidak menunjukkkan rasa solidaritasnya. Kelakuan manusia oportunis ini betul-betul busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > Sudah tua maunya masih minta disuapin aja. > Nih, beritanya yang gampang sudah dalam bahasa Indonesia. > > --- > Mayoritas mengajukan suaka berdasarkan kekerasan terkait agama. Namun, > semuanya ditolak karena mereka telah tinggal lebih dari setahun yang > merupakan batas waktu pengajuan suaka setelah mereka tiba di AS. > --- > > http://internasional.kompas.com/read/2011/12/08/09364282/Hendak.Dideportasi.72.WNI.Cari.Suaka.di.AS > > Orang yang minta suaka biasanya langsung dilakukan seperti misalnya yang > dilakukan orang saat dia baru mendarat di bandara Sydney. Kalau setahun lewat > belum dilakukan juga, keasyikan cari duit, alasannnya diragukan kebenarannya. > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > Jadi Teddy yang katanya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini nggak bisa bawa > > buktinya... > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > > > Saya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini. Buktinya kalau memang kesaksian > > > mereka memang benar, tentu Pemerintah AS akan memberikan visa tinggal > > > bagi mereka. Orang memasuki negara lain itu dengan cara yang legal dan > > > bukan dengan cara menipu. Saat dulu untuk mendapatkan visa penduduk tetap > > > Australia, saya lulus ujian tertulis selama 3 jam hingga layak menjadi > > > anggota Institution of Engineers, Australia. > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan Teddy yang adalah oportunis bertgabiat > > > > menjijikkan ini berkata: > > > > > > > > "Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah > > > > agar bisa menetap di AS. " > > > > > > > > Omongan orang yang mau menikmati sendiri saja hidup enak di negeri > > > > maju.. > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah > > > > > agar bisa menetap di AS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, > > > > > > at a candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians > > > > > > facing deportation. > > > > > > > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was > > > > > > spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual > > > > > > agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in > > > > > > the country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians > > > > > > would be able to stay and work, but the permission could be > > > > > > rescinded at any moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > > > > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and > > > > > > headlines. > > > > > > > > > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter > > > > > > Jocelyn, 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth > > > > > > Kaper-Dale, had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with > > > > > > extra time, they would be able to figure out a way to secure > > > > > > permanent legal status, either though the courts or with the > > > > > > passage of immigration reform legislation in Washington. > > > > > > > > > > > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of > > > > > > humanitarian release for illegal immigrants without criminal > > > > > > records and with deep ties to the community. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > > > > > > > > > > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled > > > > > > persecution of Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received > >
[proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Goblog. Coba simak sendiri komentar-komentar pembaca Kompas yang menyebutkan korban-korban kerusuhan Mei 1998 langsung minta suaka dan mendapatkannya. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > Goblok. > > Dari berita itu belum jelas apakah mereka memang TIDAK menjadi korban > persekusi di Indonedia.. > > Dibalik itu mereka juga punya argumen untuk tetap tinggal di Amerika: anak > mereka yang lahir di Amerika adalah orang Amerika. > > Yang menjijikkan dengan Teddy ini adalah bahwa, saat orang Amerika sendiri > ada yang berusaha menolong orang Indonesia itu, dia justru tidak menunjukkkan > rasa solidaritasnya. > > Kelakuan manusia oportunis ini betul-betul busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan... > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > Sudah tua maunya masih minta disuapin aja. > > Nih, beritanya yang gampang sudah dalam bahasa Indonesia. > > > > --- > > Mayoritas mengajukan suaka berdasarkan kekerasan terkait agama. Namun, > > semuanya ditolak karena mereka telah tinggal lebih dari setahun yang > > merupakan batas waktu pengajuan suaka setelah mereka tiba di AS. > > --- > > > > http://internasional.kompas.com/read/2011/12/08/09364282/Hendak.Dideportasi.72.WNI.Cari.Suaka.di.AS > > > > Orang yang minta suaka biasanya langsung dilakukan seperti misalnya yang > > dilakukan orang saat dia baru mendarat di bandara Sydney. Kalau setahun > > lewat belum dilakukan juga, keasyikan cari duit, alasannnya diragukan > > kebenarannya. > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jadi Teddy yang katanya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini nggak bisa > > > bawa buktinya... > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > > > > > Saya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini. Buktinya kalau memang > > > > kesaksian mereka memang benar, tentu Pemerintah AS akan memberikan visa > > > > tinggal bagi mereka. Orang memasuki negara lain itu dengan cara yang > > > > legal dan bukan dengan cara menipu. Saat dulu untuk mendapatkan visa > > > > penduduk tetap Australia, saya lulus ujian tertulis selama 3 jam hingga > > > > layak menjadi anggota Institution of Engineers, Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan Teddy yang adalah oportunis bertgabiat > > > > > menjijikkan ini berkata: > > > > > > > > > > "Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah > > > > > agar bisa menetap di AS. " > > > > > > > > > > Omongan orang yang mau menikmati sendiri saja hidup enak di negeri > > > > > maju.. > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya > > > > > > adalah agar bisa menetap di AS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > > > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, > > > > > > > at a candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians > > > > > > > facing deportation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > > > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > > > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey > > > > > > > was spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an > > > > > > > unusual agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them > > > > > > > to stay in the country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The > > > > > > > Indonesians would be able to stay and work, but the permission > > > > > > > could be rescinded at any moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > > > > > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and > > > > > > > headlines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > > > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter > > > > > > > Jocelyn, 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth > > > > > > > Kaper-Dale, had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that > > > > > > > with extra time, they would be able to figure out a way to secure > > > > > > > permanent legal status, either though the courts or with the > > > > > > > passage of immigration reform legislation in Washington. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Immigrant advoca
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Tabiat Teddy ini betul-betul menjijikkan... Tanpa dia punya bukti bahwa orang Indonesia yang terancam disuruh pulang itu memang sama sekali tidak terancam di Indonesia. Lagian kita tahu bahwa tiap orang kafir di Indonesia sebenarnya terancam oleh orang Islam, oleh semua orang Islam. Saya ulang: ajaran agama Islam itu menyuruh mukmin membunuhi orang kafir. Jadi, tiap orang Islam itu, bergantung udelnya dan bergantung kesempatan akan merasa dapat pahala untuk menebas batang leher tiap orang kafir Jangan lupa apa yang terjadi tahun 1965-1966 ketika orang Islam ikut membantai pendukung Orde Lama, pada hal mereka sendiri adalah juga pendukung Orde Lama... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > Goblog. > Coba simak sendiri komentar-komentar pembaca Kompas yang menyebutkan > korban-korban kerusuhan Mei 1998 langsung minta suaka dan mendapatkannya. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > Goblok. > > > > Dari berita itu belum jelas apakah mereka memang TIDAK menjadi korban > > persekusi di Indonedia.. > > > > Dibalik itu mereka juga punya argumen untuk tetap tinggal di Amerika: anak > > mereka yang lahir di Amerika adalah orang Amerika. > > > > Yang menjijikkan dengan Teddy ini adalah bahwa, saat orang Amerika sendiri > > ada yang berusaha menolong orang Indonesia itu, dia justru tidak > > menunjukkkan rasa solidaritasnya. > > > > Kelakuan manusia oportunis ini betul-betul busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan... > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > > > Sudah tua maunya masih minta disuapin aja. > > > Nih, beritanya yang gampang sudah dalam bahasa Indonesia. > > > > > > --- > > > Mayoritas mengajukan suaka berdasarkan kekerasan terkait agama. Namun, > > > semuanya ditolak karena mereka telah tinggal lebih dari setahun yang > > > merupakan batas waktu pengajuan suaka setelah mereka tiba di AS. > > > --- > > > > > > http://internasional.kompas.com/read/2011/12/08/09364282/Hendak.Dideportasi.72.WNI.Cari.Suaka.di.AS > > > > > > Orang yang minta suaka biasanya langsung dilakukan seperti misalnya yang > > > dilakukan orang saat dia baru mendarat di bandara Sydney. Kalau setahun > > > lewat belum dilakukan juga, keasyikan cari duit, alasannnya diragukan > > > kebenarannya. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi Teddy yang katanya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini nggak bisa > > > > bawa buktinya... > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Saya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini. Buktinya kalau memang > > > > > kesaksian mereka memang benar, tentu Pemerintah AS akan memberikan > > > > > visa tinggal bagi mereka. Orang memasuki negara lain itu dengan cara > > > > > yang legal dan bukan dengan cara menipu. Saat dulu untuk mendapatkan > > > > > visa penduduk tetap Australia, saya lulus ujian tertulis selama 3 jam > > > > > hingga layak menjadi anggota Institution of Engineers, Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan Teddy yang adalah oportunis > > > > > > bertgabiat menjijikkan ini berkata: > > > > > > > > > > > > "Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya > > > > > > adalah agar bisa menetap di AS. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Omongan orang yang mau menikmati sendiri saja hidup enak di negeri > > > > > > maju.. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > > > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya > > > > > > > adalah agar bisa menetap di AS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > > > > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to > > > > > > > > Leave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > > > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey > > > > > > > > Sondakh, at a candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for > > > > > > > > Indonesians facing deportation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > > > > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > > > > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey > > > > > > > > was spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an > > > > > > > > unusual agreement with immigration authorities that allowed > > > > > > > > them to stay in the country temporarily. The agreement was > > > > > > > > clear: The Indonesians would be able to stay a
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Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda berdiam pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti Anda merasa tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah ketempat lain atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama halnya orang yang dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, sekalipun mahal harganya. Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di Indonesia, sekalipun agama mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk Indonesia. From: Teddy S. Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap di AS. --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > deportation. > > By KIRK SEMPLE > Published: December 6, 2011 > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was spared > deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual agreement with > immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the country temporarily. > The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be able to stay and work, but > the permission could be rescinded at any moment. > > > Follow @NYTMetro > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and headlines. > > Enlarge This Image > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter Jocelyn, 9, > read his letter to President Obama. > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale, had > appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with extra time, they would be > able to figure out a way to secure permanent legal status, either though the > courts or with the passage of immigration reform legislation in Washington. > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of humanitarian > release for illegal immigrants without criminal records and with deep ties to > the community. > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled persecution of > Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received letters from the Department > of Homeland Security ordering them to appear at the agencyâs Newark office, > a one-way ticket to Indonesia in hand. > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to immigration officials > for continued lenience and lobbying members of the stateâs Legislature and > Congressional delegation to intervene. > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York and Frank > Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to submit a bill that would > provide relief to many of the Indonesians. The bill would allow certain > Indonesians who fled persecution in their homeland between 1997 and 2002 to > resubmit asylum claims that had been denied because they missed a one-year > filing deadline. > > âIt feels so un-American to not make room to keep families together, > especially when folks came out of a time and place where there was tremendous > violence,â Mr. Kaper-Dale said in a telephone interview on Tuesday as he > led a 24-hour vigil and fast at his parish, the Reformed Church of Highland > Park, N.J., in support of the Indonesians. > > The advocates said the decision to end the so-called orders of supervision > was surprising in light of recent assurances by the Obama administration that > it would focus its enforcement strategy on illegal immigrants with criminal > records, while sparing those with strong ties to the community and no > criminal record. > > In June, senior officials at the Homeland Security Department announced a > policy to encourage immigration agents and lawyers to use prosecutorial > discretion when deciding whether to pursue deportation. The policy expanded > the factors immigration authorities can take into account in such decisions, > including how long an illegal immigrant has been in the United States and > whether the immigrant was brought to the country as a child. In addition, the > directive gave federal immigration lawyers the authority to dismiss > deportation proceedings against immigrants with
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Berdusta untuk cari selamat. From: Teddy S. Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:36 AM To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave Hingga sampai-sampai bersaksi dusta? --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda berdiam > pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti Anda merasa > tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah ketempat lain > atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama halnya orang yang > dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, sekalipun mahal harganya. > Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di Indonesia, sekalipun agama > mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk Indonesia. > > From: Teddy S. > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > Jersey to Leave > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap di > AS. > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > deportation. > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was spared > > deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual agreement with > > immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the country > > temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be able to stay > > and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any moment. > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and headlines. > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter Jocelyn, > > 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale, > > had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with extra time, they > > would be able to figure out a way to secure permanent legal status, either > > though the courts or with the passage of immigration reform legislation in > > Washington. > > > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use of > > humanitarian release for illegal immigrants without criminal records and > > with deep ties to the community. > > > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled persecution of > > Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received letters from the > > Department of Homeland Security ordering them to appear at the > > agencyâÂÂs Newark office, a one-way ticket to Indonesia in hand. > > > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to immigration officials > > for continued lenience and lobbying members of the stateâÂÂs Legislature > > and Congressional delegation to intervene. > > > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York and Frank > > Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to submit a bill that would > > provide relief to many of the Indonesians. The bill would allow certain > > Indonesians who fled persecution in their homeland between 1997 and 2002 to > > resubmit asylum claims that had been denied because they missed a one-year > > filing deadline. > > > > âÂÂIt feels so un-American to not make room to keep families together, > > especially when folks came out of a time and place where there was > > tremendous violence,â Mr. Kaper-Dale said in a telephone interview on > > Tuesday as he led a 24-hour vigil and fast at his parish, the Reformed > > Church of Highland Park, N.J., in support of the Indonesians. > > > > The advocates said the decision to end the so-called orders of supervision > > was surprising in light of recent assurances by the Obama administration > > that it would focus its enforcemen
Re: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Keponakanku kuliah di Melbourne University, mengambil jurusan sulit, keponakanku memenangkan olympiade Kimia ( mendapat medali emas ), kemarin balik karena liburan, dia bilang ke aku, bahwa dia tidak mau tinggal di Australia.. Hanya orang model kang Sunny dan si uplik yg demen berdusta dan menjadi perantauan gembel sambil maki maki Indonesia karena balik ke Indonesia bisa kena cemooh dari sanak keluarga, maklum selama hidup hanya jadi parasit dinegara orang. Sungguh memalukan dan kasihan juga sih. Banyak cina cina Indonesia yg masuk ke Amerika dengan memakai alasan meng ada ada, sampai sampai peristiwa Mei dijadikan alasan demi menjadi warga negara amerika, karena di Indonesia sudah tidak memiliki masa depan lagi, usaha gak becus, nipu sudah gak ada yg bisa di tipu. - Original Message - From: "Teddy S." Hingga sampai-sampai bersaksi dusta? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda berdiam > pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti Anda merasa > tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah ketempat > lain atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama halnya > orang yang dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, sekalipun mahal > harganya. Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di Indonesia, > sekalipun agama mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk Indonesia. > > From: Teddy S. > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > Jersey to Leave > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap > di AS. > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > deportation. > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was > > spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual > > agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the > > country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be > > able to stay and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any > > moment. > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and > > headlines. > > > Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Apakah cina cina yg ke amerika mencari selamat ?di amerika mereka saling tipu, cina Indonesia di amerika tidak pernah kompak, yg ada tipu menipu sesama cina asal Indonesia, sampai sampai peristiwa Mei dijadikan acara tahunan dengan membuat bazar dengan hasil nanti bisa untung.. Jadi adalah orang dodol yg percaya cina Indonesia ke Amerika mencari selamat, buktinya banyak lulusan Amerika tinggal di Indonesia dan malah jadi konglomerat sialan. - Original Message - From: "Sunny" Berdusta untuk cari selamat. From: Teddy S. Hingga sampai-sampai bersaksi dusta? --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda berdiam > pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti Anda merasa > tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah ketempat > lain atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama halnya > orang yang dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, sekalipun mahal > harganya. Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di Indonesia, > sekalipun agama mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk Indonesia. > > From: Teddy S. > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > Jersey to Leave > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap > di AS. > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Melbourne bertumpuk orang Tionghoa. Di Universitas Melborune ada beberapa guru Tionghoa asal Indonesia. Satu diantara mereka sering bikin seminar tiap hari jumaat untuk orang Indonesia, juga diputar film dari Indonesia. Sur melanconglah ke Australia, ganti udara Bogor dan Jakarta. Di Melbourne itu ada taman besar seperti kebun Raya Bogor, jadi bisa seperti di rumah, cuma saja kalau musim panas, barangkali lebih panas dari Bogor. Saya tidak pernah lihat ada resautaran Indonesia di Melbourne. Mungkin sekarang sudah ada. Saya senang dengan alam Australia. Mau naik unta, ada, Australia export unta terbesar ke negeri-negeri Arab. From: suryana Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:46 PM To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave Keponakanku kuliah di Melbourne University, mengambil jurusan sulit, keponakanku memenangkan olympiade Kimia ( mendapat medali emas ), kemarin balik karena liburan, dia bilang ke aku, bahwa dia tidak mau tinggal di Australia.. Hanya orang model kang Sunny dan si uplik yg demen berdusta dan menjadi perantauan gembel sambil maki maki Indonesia karena balik ke Indonesia bisa kena cemooh dari sanak keluarga, maklum selama hidup hanya jadi parasit dinegara orang. Sungguh memalukan dan kasihan juga sih. Banyak cina cina Indonesia yg masuk ke Amerika dengan memakai alasan meng ada ada, sampai sampai peristiwa Mei dijadikan alasan demi menjadi warga negara amerika, karena di Indonesia sudah tidak memiliki masa depan lagi, usaha gak becus, nipu sudah gak ada yg bisa di tipu. - Original Message - From: "Teddy S." <mailto:teddyr%40gmail.com> Hingga sampai-sampai bersaksi dusta? --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda berdiam > pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti Anda merasa > tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah ketempat > lain atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama halnya > orang yang dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, sekalipun mahal > harganya. Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di Indonesia, > sekalipun agama mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk Indonesia. > > From: Teddy S. > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > Jersey to Leave > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap > di AS. > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > deportation. > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was > > spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual > > agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the > > country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be > > able to stay and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any > > moment. > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and > > headlines. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Inti masalahnya tidak beda dengan transmigrasi yang dikirim ke berbargai daerah di dalam Indonesia, orang yang bertransmigrasi misalnya dari Jawa ke Sumatera, Kalimatan, Maluku dan Papua, adalah tidak lain karena mereka ingin hari depan yang layak untuk mereka dan anak-anak mereka. Tetapi, orang transmigran ini ada juga, yang curang, yaitu dibawa bersama lonte-lonte dengan alasan mereka ada adik, kakak perempuan, ditempat baru mereka buka bisnis pinjit etc. Ini bisa dilakukan karena tidak ada nama keluarga, seperti, Andries, soulisa, hajar, said, de Costa.. Oranhg-orang Jawa yang didatangkan ke Maluku 150 tahun itu rata-rata tidak punya nama keluarga, hanya satu nama saja. Karena di Maluku berlaku nama marga, maka orang-orang Jawa itu juga harus punya nama keluarga, tidak pusing-pusing dicari nama, dipakai nama kota tempat mereka berasal, maka oleh karena itu ada orang dari Maluku yang namanya Djokja, Semarang, Banyumas, Cheribon, Magelang. Satu keluarga yang tetap pegang namanya ialah Tjokro, turunannya selalu pakai belangkong, rupanya orang bangsawan. Saya dengar famili Tjokro ini semua pindah ke Belanda. Orang-orang Jawa ini asal diexilkan oleh pemerintah dengan tuduhan pengikut Diponegoro. From: Teddy S. Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:55 PM To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave Ataukah untuk kehidupan dan masa depan yang lebih cerah untuk anak-anak mereka? --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > Berdusta untuk cari selamat. > > From: Teddy S. > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:36 AM > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > Jersey to Leave > > > Hingga sampai-sampai bersaksi dusta? > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > Masing-masing orang punya problem sendiri-sendiri, coba kalau Anda berdiam > > pemukinan mayoritas keracunan korma yang tidak toleran, pasti Anda merasa > > tidak aman dan melihat tidak ada solusi lain, dari padapindah ketempat lain > > atau emigrasi untuk masa depan anak dan keluarga. Jadi sama halnya orang > > yang dari Timur Tengah berusaha masuk ke Australia, sekalipun mahal > > harganya. Mereka yang ke Australia tidak mau tinggal di Indonesia, > > sekalipun agama mereka sama dengan mayoritas penduduk Indonesia. > > > > From: Teddy S. > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46 AM > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New > > Jersey to Leave > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan keselamatan > > jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya adalah agar bisa menetap > > di AS. > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey Sondakh, at a > > > candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for Indonesians facing > > > deportation. > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey was > > > spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an unusual > > > agreement with immigration authorities that allowed them to stay in the > > > country temporarily. The agreement was clear: The Indonesians would be > > > able to stay and work, but the permission could be rescinded at any > > > moment. > > > > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news and > > > headlines. > > > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his daughter > > > Jocelyn, 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale, > > > had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that with extra time, they > > > would be able to figure out a way to secure permanent legal status, > > > either though the courts or with the passage of immigration reform > > > legislation in Washington. > > > > > >
si Uplik n Kang Sunny hidup ddialam batok kepala kopong Sutan Hajar Meraja Lela...Re: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
si uplik en kang Sunny mana pernah mau tahu ?, mereka tahunya Indonesia ntu negara hancur hancuran. Jadi ingat ketika Carlos Santana manggung di Indonesia tahun ini, sebelumnya yg bersangkutan tidak mau manggung di Indonesia, dengan sebab agama minoritas ditindas habis, dan teroris dimana mana, sampai² pengundang memberikan perlindungan khusus, dan ketika acara sudah berlangsung Carlos Santana heran sampai sampai beberapa kali secara reflek mengucapkan terima kasih kepada para penonton baik yg berjilbab maupun tidak dan terima kasih Carlos Santana juga ditujukan kepada Yesus..dan penonton tidak peduli dengan terima kasih ke Yesus sama halnya dengan Agnes Monica setiap menerima penghargaan selalu mengucapkan terima kasih kepada Yesus dan yg nonton anteng anteng saja. Imigran ke Amerika pada umumnya orang cina yg sudah mati kutu tinggal di Indonesia. Cina Indonesia saat ini ( sejak bebas dari kungkungan cang Ato ) sudah berani tampil tanpa tahu diri, semisal membuat ormas sudah berjibun, baik dalam bentuk marga maupun totok dan peranakan. Sifat dasar cina nya sudah mulai kambuh ke habitat asal, dimana egoistis menjadi pemandangan sehari hari, kerja sama dalam bentuk sosial sudah berkurang ( setahuku hanya 2 kelompok yg aktif Budha Tsuzi dan INTI ), sedang lainnya mikirin diri sendiri. Bila ada yg selalu menyatakan di diskriminasi sudah bisa dipastikan cina tsb adalah katak yg hidup didalam tempurung batok si uplik ( biarpun si uplik belum ndut, batoknya mah sudah kopong ) Bila Kristen di diskriminasi, umatnya yg didominasi para cina, malah semakin makmur, maklum kristen jaman sekarang yg namanya berkat itu banyak harta benda, mengenai sosialnya mbu aku tak tahu. sur. - Original Message - From: "Teddy S." Sudah tua maunya masih minta disuapin aja. Nih, beritanya yang gampang sudah dalam bahasa Indonesia. --- Mayoritas mengajukan suaka berdasarkan kekerasan terkait agama. Namun, semuanya ditolak karena mereka telah tinggal lebih dari setahun yang merupakan batas waktu pengajuan suaka setelah mereka tiba di AS. --- http://internasional.kompas.com/read/2011/12/08/09364282/Hendak.Dideportasi.72.WNI.Cari.Suaka.di.AS Orang yang minta suaka biasanya langsung dilakukan seperti misalnya yang dilakukan orang saat dia baru mendarat di bandara Sydney. Kalau setahun lewat belum dilakukan juga, keasyikan cari duit, alasannnya diragukan kebenarannya. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: si Uplik n Kang Sunny hidup ddialam batok kepala kopong Sutan Hajar Meraja Lela...Re: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to Leave
Jadi si cina goblok ini bilang orang cina ga didiskriminasi. Dungunya minta ampun deh si suryana ini. > > From: suryana >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:24 PM >Subject: si Uplik n Kang Sunny hidup ddialam batok kepala kopong Sutan Hajar >Meraja Lela...Re: [proletar] Re: Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in >New Jersey to Leave > > > >si uplik en kang Sunny mana pernah mau tahu ?, mereka tahunya Indonesia ntu >negara hancur hancuran. > >Jadi ingat ketika Carlos Santana manggung di Indonesia tahun ini, sebelumnya >yg bersangkutan tidak mau manggung di Indonesia, dengan sebab agama >minoritas ditindas habis, dan teroris dimana mana, sampai² pengundang >memberikan perlindungan khusus, dan ketika acara sudah berlangsung Carlos >Santana heran sampai sampai beberapa kali secara reflek mengucapkan terima >kasih kepada para penonton baik yg berjilbab maupun tidak dan terima kasih >Carlos Santana juga ditujukan kepada Yesus..dan penonton tidak peduli >dengan terima kasih ke Yesus sama halnya dengan Agnes Monica setiap menerima >penghargaan selalu mengucapkan terima kasih kepada Yesus dan yg nonton >anteng anteng saja. > >Imigran ke Amerika pada umumnya orang cina yg sudah mati kutu tinggal di >Indonesia. >Cina Indonesia saat ini ( sejak bebas dari kungkungan cang Ato ) sudah >berani tampil tanpa tahu diri, semisal membuat ormas sudah berjibun, baik >dalam bentuk marga maupun totok dan peranakan. >Sifat dasar cina nya sudah mulai kambuh ke habitat asal, dimana egoistis >menjadi pemandangan sehari hari, kerja sama dalam bentuk sosial sudah >berkurang ( setahuku hanya 2 kelompok yg aktif Budha Tsuzi dan INTI ), >sedang lainnya mikirin diri sendiri. > >Bila ada yg selalu menyatakan di diskriminasi sudah bisa dipastikan cina tsb >adalah katak yg hidup didalam tempurung batok si uplik ( biarpun si uplik >belum ndut, batoknya mah sudah kopong ) > >Bila Kristen di diskriminasi, umatnya yg didominasi para cina, malah semakin >makmur, maklum kristen jaman sekarang yg namanya berkat itu banyak harta >benda, mengenai sosialnya mbu aku tak tahu. > >sur. >- Original Message - >From: "Teddy S." > >Sudah tua maunya masih minta disuapin aja. >Nih, beritanya yang gampang sudah dalam bahasa Indonesia. > >--- >Mayoritas mengajukan suaka berdasarkan kekerasan terkait agama. Namun, >semuanya ditolak karena mereka telah tinggal lebih dari setahun yang >merupakan batas waktu pengajuan suaka setelah mereka tiba di AS. >--- > >http://internasional.kompas.com/read/2011/12/08/09364282/Hendak.Dideportasi.72.WNI.Cari.Suaka.di.AS > >Orang yang minta suaka biasanya langsung dilakukan seperti misalnya yang >dilakukan orang saat dia baru mendarat di bandara Sydney. Kalau setahun >lewat belum dilakukan juga, keasyikan cari duit, alasannnya diragukan >kebenarannya. > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
