Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM
On 06:53 PM 25/09/2003, Laurie Biddulph said: I had a quick look on the archive and eventually found some references to SafeSource (a Microsoft product) which is a Version Management System. I followed that up with a further search and found a program called CVS (Concurrent Version Systems) which is free and might be worth looking at (I am trying it out myself at the moment). Goto to www.cvsnt.org for further information There are lots of version control systems around, but they don't, generally, do issue management (or manage BOMs and assemblies etc). Have a look under version control systems on sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/) for open source version control system by the bucket full. The link to the version control development projects is: http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=52 This one does some neat tricks (check-in/out with right clicks in Explorer) - it is a Win32 GUI for CVS (CVS is not known for its ease of use and has spawned numerous front ends): http://sourceforge.net/projects/tortoisecvs/ If you think you will ever use DXP then make sure there is an SCC interface for your version control system as it will allow you to check-in and out from within the DXP environment. If anyone did offer a complete version control, BOM and assembly management, parts inventory and issue management system you can be sure it would be so large and over-wieldy that normal users would quickly go off and bolt together a system from bits and pieces. Nice idea though. Ian (Visual SourceSafe is the MS version control system - it has some nice features but is denigrated by many (probably the usual anti-MS suspects - no shortage of those). What I want is an open source package that can open a VSS archive. I have one I am keen to open but don't have VSS. Does anyone have VSS, and knows whether it is possible to export a VSS archive into another format (preserving history, branches etc), and would be prepared to do a once off load and export? Thanks) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM
Laurie the problem i have with a standard CVS system is that i have to check out the whole directory. we keep all pcbs in a single directory, all drawings in a single directory etc and then reference drawing number/pcb number to projects. (This is because items are used in more than one project) I haven't found one yet that handles individual files properly. its fine for source code but not everything else. Someone please correct me if i'm wrong here... Rich -Original Message- From: Laurie Biddulph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2003 09:54 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM I had a quick look on the archive and eventually found some references to SafeSource (a Microsoft product) which is a Version Management System. I followed that up with a further search and found a program called CVS (Concurrent Version Systems) which is free and might be worth looking at (I am trying it out myself at the moment). Goto to www.cvsnt.org for further information Best Regards Laurie Biddulph http://www.ozemail.com.au/~boobies * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM
Ian -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are lots of version control systems around, but they don't, generally, do issue management (or manage BOMs and assemblies etc). Have a look under version control systems on sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/) for open source version control system by the bucket full. The link to the version control development projects is: http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=52 This one does some neat tricks (check-in/out with right clicks in Explorer) - it is a Win32 GUI for CVS (CVS is not known for its ease of use and has spawned numerous front ends): http://sourceforge.net/projects/tortoisecvs/ snip I already looked at sourceforge, its chock full of great sw. I even looked at tortoiseCVS, but couldn't see how to check out single files from a directory. they all want to check out the whole lot! is it even possible? I am looking at (www.IssueView.com) for ECO tracking etc, (thanks Jeff) it looks great. I don't need a BOM/Assembly tracker, our company database is used for that. I guess all i need now, is a CVS system, that lets me check out single files and a database to manage drawing numbers and pcb numbers. I'll probably end up writing that myself. As for DXP, I already use it! We upgraded earlier this year, and i have to admit that once you get used to it, it is better than 99SE. BTW, on my searches i came accross this, http://www.oasys-software.com/product/dm/columbus/ its free and is a very good document tracker, if you have docs spread across servers etc. Thanks Rich * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM
thanks Paul that looks great. i'll give it a trial on monday. together with Tlib, issueview and columbus! thanks everyone Rich the problem i have with a standard CVS system is that i have to check out the whole directory. Quma Version Control System from Quma Software Inc. allows you to check out/in single files. It is SCC compliant, very reasonably priced and has a 30 day trial version available. I use QVCS-Pro and it works very well for me. http://www.qumasoft.com Paul A satisfied Quma customer. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM
Hi Jeff Would you mind CC'ing it to me, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wasn't subscribed to the OT list (am now) as the mail archive doesn't seem to archive the OT list and i missed it. thanks Rich -Original Message- From: Jeffrey A. Bensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 September 2003 03:27 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM Rich - I've posted a reply to the Open-Topic Forum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Jeff Bensen Bensen Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM
Hi Jeff Would you mind CC'ing it to me, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wasn't subscribed to the OT list (am now) and the mail archive doesn't seem to archive the OT list so i missed it. thanks Rich -Original Message- From: Jeffrey A. Bensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 September 2003 03:27 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM Rich - I've posted a reply to the Open-Topic Forum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Jeff Bensen Bensen Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM
I had a quick look on the archive and eventually found some references to SafeSource (a Microsoft product) which is a Version Management System. I followed that up with a further search and found a program called CVS (Concurrent Version Systems) which is free and might be worth looking at (I am trying it out myself at the moment). Goto to www.cvsnt.org for further information Best Regards Laurie Biddulph http://www.ozemail.com.au/~boobies - Original Message - From: Rich Thompson To: Protel EDA Forum Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM Hi Jeff Would you mind CC'ing it to me, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wasn't subscribed to the OT list (am now) and the mail archive doesn't seem to archive the OT list so i missed it. thanks Rich -Original Message- From: Jeffrey A. Bensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 September 2003 03:27 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM Rich - I've posted a reply to the Open-Topic Forum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Jeff Bensen Bensen Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM
Hi group sorry about the kinda off topic post but this is a good place for opinions etc. I need a new system to track drawing revisions, ECO, ECR,MCR etc. Maybe even a full blown product lifecycle management system. I don't want to (or rather can't ;-) ) spend 100 thousand on a full blown system like Agile. it doesn't need to be that in depth. Firstly what does everyone else use? If any. and what can be recommended for a smallish company? Its not specifically for pcb docs, but basically the whole product preferably. I manage pretty much everything on a product so something to track all of that would be cool. I have just seen lots of products out there but they are way overpriced for what we need. I am seriously looking at maybe writing my own because of this. help appreciated Rich * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM
Rich, this topic was discussed a while ago. You might have a look into the archive. Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Rich Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2003 2:42 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM Hi group sorry about the kinda off topic post but this is a good place for opinions etc. I need a new system to track drawing revisions, ECO, ECR,MCR etc. Maybe even a full blown product lifecycle management system. I don't want to (or rather can't ;-) ) spend 100 thousand on a full blown system like Agile. it doesn't need to be that in depth. Firstly what does everyone else use? If any. and what can be recommended for a smallish company? Its not specifically for pcb docs, but basically the whole product preferably. I manage pretty much everything on a product so something to track all of that would be cool. I have just seen lots of products out there but they are way overpriced for what we need. I am seriously looking at maybe writing my own because of this. help appreciated Rich * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
