Re: [protest-ro] We endorse the Pace nu sange! Petition to Guvernul Romaniei.

2005-04-27 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Bolovane, in Romania nu e democratie? Retragerea trupelor in frunte cu
presedintele Basescu? Jumatate din polulatia Romaniei?!?! Cat poti fi de
prost, incredibil! Forte de ocupatie, ai? Si sondajele? Care, ala CURS?
Adica ala comandat de Antena 1, baietzash? IQ cat temperatura camerei, nu
altceva.
Pe de alta parte, ar fi fost cu adevarat frumoasa ideea cu banderola numai
daca ti-ai fi taiat glanda proprie ca s-o vopsesti. As fi apreciat gestul
asta, as fi cerut un bis, la dracu'! Dar ce-i aia, cerneala rosie? Asa
suferi tu pentru cauzele nobile? Lasule, egoistule!
P.S. esti sigur ca nu esti beat-muci? Recitindu-ti pululatiile, asa as zice!

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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:45 AM
Subject: [protest-ro] We endorse the Pace nu sange! Petition to Guvernul
Romaniei.



 Buna,

 http://www.PetitionOnline.com/pace/petition.html

 Sunt cetatean roman si consider ca trupele romanesti
 ar trebui aduse acasa din Iraq.

 Consider ca Romania nu are motive sa detina forte de
 ocupatie intr-o tara care nu a agresat niciodata tara
 noastra.

 Cer retragerea imediata a trupelor autoritatilor
 romane in frunte cu presedintele Traian Basescu.

 Conform sondajelor mult peste jumatate din polulatia
 Romaniei este pentru retragerea trupelor.

 In semn de protest fata de mentinerea trupelor
 romanesti in Iraq voi arbora la geamul locuintei
 si/sau la brat un bandaj alb cu rosu ( batista alba si
 batista rosie, sau batista alba patata cu un colorant
 rosu) care simbolizeaza solicitarea  PACE NU SANGE !


 Avem noi dreptul sa mergem in alte state sa instauram
 democratia cand la noi in tara mai avem pana vom
 ajunge acolo?
 Nu comentam dreptul altor state de a exporta
 democratia, ne limitam strict la Romania.


 PACE NU SANGE



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Re: [protest-ro] Re: We endorse the Pace nu sange! Petition to Guvernul Romaniei.

2005-04-27 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Problema, care este, e ca, fara dubiu, nu e nici un conflit [sic!] intre
ideile si solicitarile tale si ideile si solicitarile antropoizilor care
amenintza ca o sa le taie beregata celor patru in Iraq. Ale tale si ale lor
sunt perfect identice. Asa ca vara-te la loc in vagauna de unde ai iesit si
dormi pana iese alcoolul din tine, cand esti beat spui tot ce crezi cu
adevarat si esti absolut penibil.

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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:44 AM
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 --- In protest-ro@yahoogroups.com, valachus per skorilo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Bolovane, [...] Cat poti fi de  prost, incredibil! [...] baietzash?
  IQ cat temperatura camerei, nu altceva. [...] Lasule, egoistule!
  P.S. esti sigur ca nu esti beat-muci? Recitindu-ti pululatiile, [...]

 Ok, nene valahule, ti-am citit productiile, ti le-am recitit, ce sa
 zic, sunt impresionat... Daca asta e tot ce poti, da-i inainte... Nu
 vad nici un conflit intre a apara onoarea de tara agresoare a
 Romaniei si limbajul pe care il folosesti, congruenta e chiar perfecta.
 Cat despre idei, aici chiar NU E NICI UN CONFLICT... Hai, ma opresc
 aici, simt pe undeva ca ma trece mila la adresa persoanei tale.

 Toate cele bune,
 Radu Iliescu






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Re: [protest-ro] banc

2005-04-26 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Bun banc, frumos de tot, cine zicea ca muierile nu stiu sa spuna bancuri? E
bine de tzinut minte de instalatorii care lucreaza in Frantza, sa-l spuna
cand vine apropitarul sa vaza dac-au reparat bine bidetul, poate le sare-un
franc in plus bacsis si-i mai cheama s-alta data.

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Subject: [protest-ro] banc




 Hearing so many people speaking about his intelligence level, George
double you Bush decided to get his brain checked.
 The physician diagnosis was as follows:
 - Mr. President, you have two brains, the left and the right, like all
normal people. But the problem is that in your left brain there is nothing
right and in your right brain there is nothing left.



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Re: [protest-ro]

2005-04-25 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Dac-ar avea macar o vaga idee de cam pe ce pot magistratii din RO sa puna
gura, nici un om sanatos la minte nu s-ar lasa.

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 From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Din cate imi dau seama, nu-i deloc o smecherie. Din slugarnicie si/sau
  panica - zic eu - magistratii au propus sa-l scoata din judecata
  (disjungerea dosarului) pana cand isi termina mandatul, pe temeiul
  imunitatii prevazute de Constitutie. Basescu in schimb a insistat
pentru
  continuarea lucrarilor si in ce-l priveste - si pe buna dreptate -

 Vrei sa spui ca magistratii l-ar pupa in fund pe Base - si Base nu se lasa
 pupat? ;)))

 Codruta

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Re: [protest-ro] Ia atitudine si protesteaza: retrageti armata romana din Irak!

2005-04-24 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

In functie de circumstante si/sau preferintele onor d-lui Procuror General
al Parchetului de pe langa Inalta Curte de Casatie si Justitie a Romaniei,
temeiul ar putea fi imbogatirea fara justa cauza (a angajatorilor, cu
persoanele in viatza ale celor trei reintorsi la sediile corespunzatoare)
sau raspunderea comitentilor (angajatorilor) pentru daunele civile comise de
prepusi (angajati). Ambele, prevazute de Codul civil. In functie de dupa cum
d-l Procuror ar considera ca banii virati de stat ar reprezenta un act de
administrare al statului roman, sau o dauna suferita de acesta. Eu as merge
pe varianta daunelor. De-as fi carcotas, in functie de circumstante, as
adauga, pe alt cap de cerere, si daune morale.

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 From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  sconcsule? Daca se termina cu bine si cei trei idioti revin in Romania,
 voi
  formula cerere potrivit legii 544/2001 ca sa aflu cati bani s-au platit
  pentru pielea lor. Si in calitate de contribuabil roman voi solicita
  Procurorului general al Romaniei sa initieze actiune civila contra
  angajatorilor celor trei pentru recuperarea eventualelor sume platite.
 Banii

 Asta mi se pare o idee EXCELENTA! ;)
 (dar exista baza legala pentru asa ceva? in caz ca da, ti-as fi
 recunoscatoare daca ai mentiona-o)

 Si sa stii, valachus, ca treaba cu agreatul limbajului pe lista se
aplica
 si in privinta ta, nu doar a lui Radu.

 Codruta


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Re: [protest-ro] Ia atitudine si protesteaza: retrageti armata romana din Irak!

2005-04-24 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Fiindca dupa toate indiciile numai suma care fi de plata ar duce in faliment
si PrimaTV si Romania Libera. Oricum insa, pentru daune morale ar merita
bagati in solidar si toti cei vor fi atat de imbecili si nevertebrati incat
sa-si puna steagul alb al capitularii in geam. Acest gest de dobitoci
capitularzi o sa devina rasul lumii-ntregi cu viteza cu care eu o sa apas pe
butonul SEND in cateva secunde!

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 From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  pe varianta daunelor. De-as fi carcotas, in functie de circumstante, as
  adauga, pe alt cap de cerere, si daune morale.

 Si de CE sa nu fii? mi se pare justificat ;)

 Codruta


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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Autostrada Bechtel: «Adio, dar raman cu voi!»

2005-04-18 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

De curiozitate, de unde provin cifrele astea mirobolante?

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 Deocamdata, bugetul Romaniei, este alimentat in proportie de
 60% de veniturile realizate in Transilvania, din care doar 23%
 se intorc in Transilvania, restul fiind redistribuite
 in zonele sarace ale Romaniei.



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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

D-le Branea,

ma tem ca ati scris un mesaj prea ermetic, asa incat in grupul asta de
discutii cel putin, desi ar fi fost amuzant la culme sa auzim reactiile din
suflet ale bobulatziei, asta n-o sa se intample decat daca problema e expusa
scurt pe doi, dupa cum urmeaza:

Cel mai nou roman (care nu prea mai e roman ci deja scriere politica) al lui
Michael Crichton ia de freza teoria incalzirii globale, tratatul de la Kyoto
si alte chipuri cioplite ale eco-anarhismului mondial si da cu ele de
peretzi de le sar dintzii! Si, culmea blasfemiei, cu abundentza de
argumente.

Si recomand dreptcredinciosilor eco-anarhisti ca lectura suplimentara
oricare din cartzile apostatului Bjorn Lomborg. O sa va faca sa va urcatzi
pe peretzi!

valachus



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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Tocmai fiindca nu-s deloc romane, si fiindca dupa cum ziceam indivizii astia
doi se pare ca fac praf balivernele eco-apocaliptice devenite truisme in
prezent. Cititi si carcotiti dupa aia :)

O seara buna,

valachus

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 Ma bucur, totusi, ca pe lista asta exista si un tip destept (alaturi de
 incontestabilul D. Schiau). Inteleg de aici ca merita, totusi, sa pastrez
 lista, mersi, valachus! :-p

Exista cel putin doi, totusi, fiindca alaturi de d-l Branea indraznesc sa ma
includ si pe mine, cu voia dumneavoastra, in respectiva subcategorie.

 De ce ar trebui sa ne urcam pe pereti, pentru niste romane?
 MOR de curioasa : :))







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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Acilea ie un paradocs daca pot zice-asa, unde Fahrenheit era o piesa jalnica
de agitprop (fictiune) care se pretindea, pentru foloase necuvenite,
docomentar riguros realist, apai State of Fear este, din cate vad, o scriere
realista deghizata in roman de actiune.

Asta ca sa vezi si sa nu crezi unde-au adus lumea occidentala corectii
politic-stiintific-ecologic, ca sa le combati fanatismul ideologic si sa ai
succes de piatza trebuie sa-ti maschezi manifestul sub forma de fictiune.
Scandalos, madame!

P.S. Lomborg nu scrie fictiune ci studii stiintifice irefutabile, iar daca
aveati curiozitatea sa cititi integral articolul lui Crichton in engleza
puteati afla, bunaoara, ca printre realizarile cu-adevarat notabile ale
miscarii ecologiste mondiale, din care imi pare ca revendicati a fi, se
numara moartea a catorva zeci de milioane de oameni ca urmare a interzicerii
productiei si utilizarii de DDT.

Invatati, invatati, invatati, cum bine zicea tovarasul Lenin - de cate ori
am zis-o pe lista asta, si tot de-atatea ori am zis-o in desert. Deh.



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 From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Tocmai fiindca nu-s deloc romane, si fiindca dupa cum ziceam indivizii
 astia
  doi se pare ca fac praf balivernele eco-apocaliptice devenite truisme in
  prezent. Cititi si carcotiti dupa aia :)

 eh! o gramada de kestii de pe lumea asta nu-s romane... nici filme
(parca
 era unul cu 11 sept.? ;)). da' unele sunt intens contestate, de zici
ca
 ar intoarce lumea cu susu'n jos :-pp

 Nici viata mea nu-i un roman - dar daca as scrie despre momentul in care
 am facut o poza cu o broscuta testoasa si totce s-a intamplat dupa aia
 (inclusiv corespondenta mea chiar din aceasta clipa ;), cred ca Dl. Branea
 ar zice ca-i un SF prost ;))

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Re: [protest-ro] Caz concret

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Ce superb caz de spalare pe creier! Ce detergent folositi? Pravda cu
inverzitor cumva?
Ca sa trecem la alt exemplu superb de agitprop, mai an se vorbea de
chinurile teribile suferite de inocentzii incarcerati la Guantanamo, Cuba,
unde sunt bietii tinuti in celule deschise, din plasa de sarma, si deci
supusi la atacurile tzantzarilor purtatori de malarie. Poanta e ca in toata
Cuba nu mai exista malarie  - pe tema asta Castro se bate cu pumnii in tâte
de si le-a invinetit - si schema e ca situatia dateaza de aproape un secol,
tocmai fiindca s-a dat temeinic cu DDT si de catre cine, taman de catre
americani.
Cum tocmai v-am afectat in privinta asta spalarea pe creier, repetati
spalarea, clatiti, repetati, clatiti si tot asa pana la obtinerea unei
culori verzi frumoase, proaspete si uniforme.
Si chiar asa, Cornele, unde esti babicule? Cornele! Cornele! Aport,
babicule! Aport!

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 From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Multzi? Cat de multzi? Cam atata de multzi, sau chiar mai multzi
de-atata:
  http://www.junkscience.com/malaria_clock.htm ?

 Ce SUPERB exemplu de manipulare!
 Deci, oamenii aceia nu mor pentru ca traiesc in conditii de mizerie,
pentru
 ca n-au medicamente samd... da' de UNDE! ei mor pentru ca nu este folosit
la
 greu un agent poluant, care, btw., produce mutatii la copii.

 Hai ca asta fu tare!

 Codruta

 mah, Cornele, tu cand te-ntorci, domne? sau, Doamne-feri, dete malaria
peste
 tine in Hawaii? ;)

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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Reformulez si eu, fiindca observatia e justa. Problema nu e, intr-adevar, ca
un autor etichetat SF foloseste un roman deloc SF - imi luai si eu cartea de
undeva de pe web (nu spui de unde :D si o s-o citesc zilele urmatoare)  si
intr-adevar e ultrastufoasa cu tabele pentru o scriere literara - pentru a
promova o idee corecta dar nepopulara.
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Problema e ca establishmentul stiintific, politic, jurnalistic si in general
opinia publica din lumea larga nu permit, sub nici o forma sa li se spuna,
sub aspectul ipotezei lor fundamentale a eschatonului ecologic inevitabil,
si nu numai, ca bat campii!
Parca am vorbi de URSS-ul anilor 50 si de contestarea miciurinismului, gest
care te-ar fi lasat fara slujba si te-ar fi aruncat direct in Gulag!
Lomborg, de care am vorbit mai inainte, e un om efectiv vanat de aktivistii
environmentalismului, atat profesional cat chiar si fizic!

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From: Lucian Branea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

Daca premisa 'manifestului' este atingerea
 unor esantioane cit mai vaste de public, nu pleci in aceasta cruciada cu
 articole din Nature sau, mai rau, din Bulletin of the American
 Meteorological Society, ci cu un thriller care, si daca ar contine doar
pete
 de cerneala, tot s-ar vinde in minimum un milion de exemplare. As simple
as
 that.. :)

 asta cu DDT-ul e o discutie veche - si e si, inca, o tinta usoara - pentru
 ambele tabere, dupa cite se vede, ca nici una n-a reusit s-o convinga pe
 cealalta, in ciuda docomentelor, si a exagerarilor pe marginea acestora :)
 mai bine incercam cu fumatul, eventual cu fumatul second-hand, despre care
 's-a descoperit' ca produce cancer la sin.. well..

Iata ca asta cu DDT-ul nu-i deloc o tinta usoara - problema cu
dreptcredinciosii de orice fel e ca sunt total supusi adagiului credo quia
absurdum (sau in zilele noastre, moralem, ca-i trendy sa fii moralist)
est. Faza asta cu interdictia DDT-ului de altfel e izbitor de similara cu
atitudinea vis-a-vis de bolsevism: n-a omorat decat cateva zeci de milioane
de oameni, si are si parti bune (care? urmeaza litania de lozinci de
agitprop), deci merita inca o sansa!



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Re: [protest-ro] Caz concret

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Eram convins ca inevitabil se va ajunge la invocarea acestei tampenii
absolute, si sincer, gasesc ca nu exista idiotenii mai mari si umor mai
involuntar decat cele continute in genul asta de lozinci de extrema-verde.
Sunt doar surprins de cat de putzin timp a durat sa se ajunga cu agitpropul
in punctul de fierbere cu spume.
Tzantzarii fac parte din ecosistem, deci nu trebuie omorati! Intre viata
unui tantzar anofel si viata unui copil african sau al unei negrese
insarcinate (astia sunt 9/10 din victimele malariei), intre o insecta si o
fiintza umana, ecologistii adevaratzi aleg insecta. Beton morala, util de
retzinut. Fu tare asta, madame Codrutza.

Hai diazepam si vise-n verde!

valachus

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 Este ABSOLUT o prostie sa spui ca unii au omorat pentru ca NU s-a dat cu
 nu-stiu-ce (apropo: intr-un ecisistem din care tzantzarii FAC parte),

 Hai, ca asta fu tare!

 Rationamentul asta scalamb vine cumva din aia ca ati fost dat cu DDT cand
 erati mic?

 Codruta

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Re: [protest-ro] Caz concret

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Are, n-are legatura, madame, asta ai zis! Si ramane cum ai stabilit (mare
noutate, de altfel): pentru ecologisti viata unui copil conteaza mai putin
decat o imputita de insecta. E ecosistemul insectei, nu? Si daca te gandesti
mai bine poate te trezesti ca ne spui ca de fapt de eradicat trebuie
eradicati copiii de acolo, doar le cauzeaza ipohondrie la tantarii anofeli
acasa in ecosistem! Gura pacatosului adevar graieste!
Zici ca ecologistii n-au ucis zeci de milioane de oameni prin
obstructionismul lor jegos, fundamentat stiintific? Sa-ti improspatez
memoria, mai an vociferai ca americanii ucid sute de mii de copii (o
calomnie abjecta de altfel) cu embargoul lor impus Irakului! Nu sesizezi o
oarecare similitudine intre cele doua situatii? Nu-ti crapa obrazul de
rusine? Nu? De ce nu sunt surprins, oare!?

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 N-are nici o legatura cu discutia, cred ca de la diazepam ti se trage,
 valachus!
 Eu iti cerusem CLAR cazuri in care ecologistii au omorat oameni



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[protest-ro] Stire Reuters de azi: Malaria Estimated at 515 Million Cases Worldwide

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo


Sanatatea si viata a 515 milioane de oameni, pfff - o nimica toata pe langa 
cauza nobila a conservarii ecosistemului tzantzarului anofel, nu-i asa, coana 
Codrutza?


Malaria Estimated at 515 Million Cases Worldwide




Wed Mar 9, 1:02 PM ET
By Patricia Reaney 

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20050309/hl_nm/health_malaria_dc_1

LONDON (Reuters) - More than half a billion people, nearly double previous 
estimates, were affected by the deadliest form of malaria in 2002, scientists 
said Wednesday. 

Most were in sub-Saharan Africa but nearly 25 percent occurred in southeast 
Asia and the Western Pacific. 


The disease burden is 515 million clinical attacks a year on the planet. That 
is quite substantial, said Professor Bob Snow of the Kenyan Medical Research 
Institute in Nairobi, Kenya. 


We have taken a conservative approach to estimating how many attacks occur 
globally each year but even so the problem is far bigger than we previously 
thought, he told Reuters. 


The figures, which are reported in the science journal Nature, are almost twice 
those of the World Health Organization (news - web sites) (WHO) which estimated 
the global incidence of malaria at 273 million cases in 1998 with 90 percent of 
cases in Africa. 


It is quite substantially higher than the WHO estimate, said Snow who 
calculated there were 365 million cases of malaria in Africa alone in 2002. 


Malaria is transmitted by the bite of an infected mosquito. It occurs in more 
than 100 countries and kills more than a million people each year -- mostly 
young children in sub-Saharan Africa. Most deaths are caused by the Plasmodium 
falciparum parasite. 


Snow and his colleagues used epidemiological data, studies, demographic 
information and data from satellites to pinpoint areas where the disease is 
most prevalent. 


For the first time we have provided a framework for estimating how many 
clinical attacks there are each year due to Plasmodium falciparum -- the most 
lethal of the malaria parasites that affect man, said Snow. 


The research suggests that 2.2 billion people are at risk of malaria. Although 
the scientists did not estimate deaths from the disease, the risk of severe 
life-threatening complications is about 10 times higher in Africa than in 
southeast Asia and the western Pacific. 


Getting the numbers right is important, said Snow. Not knowing the size of 
the problem limits our ability to articulate how much money we need to tackle 
the problem -- not knowing where the problem is located means you can't spend 
wisely. 


The Roll Back Malaria campaign, organized by the WHO, the United Nations (news 
- web sites) Children's Fund (UNICEF (news - web sites)), the United Nations 
Development Program (UNDP) and the World Bank (news - web sites), aims to halve 
malaria deaths by the year 2010. 




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Re: [protest-ro] Stire Reuters de azi: Malaria Estimated at 515 Million Cases Worldwide

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Observand ca fara voie v-am lezat onoarea si reputatia si oferindu-va
scuzele mele sincere, nu pot, in aceste circumstante, decat sa va sfatuiesc
sa va indreptati cererea de reperare a onoarei si sticla de mastica prima
spre instantza teritorial si material competenta.

noapte buna

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 From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Sanatatea si viata a 515 milioane de oameni, pfff - o nimica toata pe
 langa cauza nobila a conservarii ecosistemului tzantzarului anofel, nu-i
 asa, coana Codrutza?

 Stimabile, coana este mama Dvs., adica delicata persoana care v-a
invatat
 sa va adresati asa!
 Adica, coana valachus - ca vad ca va e rusine de numele adevarat de
 familie!

 Codruta

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[protest-ro] A-nnebunit ursu'!

2005-03-01 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

The Arabs' Berlin Wall has crumbled
By Mark Steyn
(Filed: 01/03/2005)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/03/01/do0102.xmlsSheet=/opinion/2005/03/01/ixop.html

Three years ago - April 6 2002, if you want to rummage through the old 
Spectators in the attic - I wrote: The stability junkies in the EU, UN and 
elsewhere have, as usual, missed the point. The Middle East is too stable. So, 
if you had to pick only one regime to topple, why not Iraq? Once you've got rid 
of the ruling gang, it's the West's best shot at incubating a reasonably 
non-insane polity. That's why the unravelling of the Middle East has to start 
not in the West Bank but in Baghdad.

I don't like to say I told you so. But, actually, I do like to say I told you 
so. What I don't like to do is the obligatory false self-deprecatory thing to 
mitigate against the insufferableness of my saying I told you so. But 
nevertheless I did.

Consider just the past couple of days' news: not the ever more desperate 
depravity of the floundering insurgency, but the real popular Arab resistance 
the car-bombers and the head-hackers are flailing against: the Saudi foreign 
minister, who by remarkable coincidence goes by the name of Prince Saud, told 
Newsweek that women would be voting in the next Saudi election. That is going 
to be good for the election, he said, because I think women are more sensible 
voters than men.

Four-time Egyptian election winner - and with 90 per cent of the vote! - 
President Mubarak announced that next polling day he wouldn't mind an opponent. 
Ordering his stenographer to change the constitution to permit the first 
multi-choice presidential elections in Egyptian history, His Excellency said 
the country would benefit from more freedom and democracy. The state-run TV 
network hailed the president's speech as a historical decision in the nation's 
7,000-year-old march toward democracy. After 7,000 years on the march, they're 
barely out of the parking lot, so Mubarak's move is, as they say, a step in the 
right direction.

Meanwhile in Damascus, Boy Assad, having badly overplayed his hand in Lebanon 
and after months of denying that he was harbouring any refugee Saddamites, 
suddenly discovered that - wouldja believe it? - Saddam's brother and 29 other 
bigshot Baghdad Baathists were holed up in north-eastern Syria, and promptly 
handed them over to the Iraqi government.

And, for perhaps the most remarkable development, consider this report from 
Mohammed Ballas of Associated Press: Palestinians expressed anger on Saturday 
at an overnight suicide bombing in Tel Aviv that killed four Israelis and 
threatened a fragile truce, a departure from former times when they welcomed 
attacks on their Israeli foes.

No disrespect to Associated Press, but I was disinclined to take their word for 
it. However, Charles Johnson, whose Little Green Footballs website has done an 
invaluable job these past three years presenting the ugly truth about 
Palestinian death-cultism, reported that he went hunting around the internet 
for the usual photographs of deliriously happy Gazans dancing in the street and 
handing out sweets to celebrate the latest addition to the pile of Jew corpses 
- and, to his surprise, couldn't find any.

Why is all this happening? Answer: January 30. Don't take my word for it, 
listen to Walid Jumblatt, big-time Lebanese Druze leader and a man of 
impeccable anti-American credentials: I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw 
the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, eight million of them, it was the 
start of a new Arab world. The Berlin Wall has fallen.

Just so. Left to their own devices, the House of Saud - which demanded all US 
female air-traffic controllers be stood down for Crown Prince Abdullah's flight 
to the Bush ranch in Crawford - would stick to their traditional line that 
Wahhabi women have no place in a voting booth; instead, they have to dress like 
a voting booth - a big black impenetrable curtain with a little slot to drop 
your ballot through. Likewise, Hosni Mubarak has no desire to take part in 
campaign debates with Hosno Name-Recognition. Boy Assad has no desire to hand 
over his co-Baathists to the Great Satan's puppets in Baghdad.

But none of them has much of a choice. In the space of a month, the Iraq 
election has become the prism through which all other events in the region are 
seen.

Assad's regime knocks off a troublemaker in Lebanon. Big deal. They've done it 
a gazillion times. But this time the streets are full of demonstrators 
demanding an end to Syrian occupation.

A suicide bomber kills four Jews. So what's new? But this time the Palestinians 
decline to celebrate. And some even question whether being a delivery system 
for plastic explosives is really all life has to offer, even on the West Bank.

Mubarak announces the arrest of an opposition leader. Like, who cares? The 
jails are full of 'em. But this time Condi Rice cancels her visit and the 

Re: [protest-ro] Adevarul - Fetita moarta sub ruinele unei cladiri cu bulina rosie

2005-02-28 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Asta e din ciclul rasu-plansu sau nebunia cuprinde romania cumva? Am
citit bine, autoritatile locale sunt vinovate de moartea fetitei? Cred ca
am citit bine. Propuneti deci tema asta de discutie in LiRD, sunt curios
daca se ofera careva sa preia cazul.
Tema de gandire: de ce familia lui Mohammed Atta nu poate da in judecata
consortiul Boeing ca le-a murit ficiorul in accident aviatic?

P.S. participantii la furt sa fie fericiti daca scapa cu pedepse sub 7 ani
inchisoare, mama fetei inclusiv - fapta lor se cheama omor din culpa in
concurs cu furt calificat si distrugere.

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bulina rosie


 In cazul acesta, cat se poate de clar, autoritatile locale sunt vinovate
de moartea fetitei! Dar nu numai! ci si de distrugerea uneia dintre cele mai
interesante parti ale unui oras care ar putea reprezenta Romania in toata
lumea!!!

 Deci o fetita de 3 ani a murit pentru ca firma sa-si vada, cu
complicitatea Primariei, sacii in car!!!

 Codruta


http://www.adevarulonline.ro/index.jsp?page=articolsection_id=1article_id=
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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Fascismul american, Controlul mass-media

2005-02-26 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Coane, nu prea te ajuta cutia cu idei, nu? Trec peste partea cu rasismul
(n-ai priceput nimic din ce am zis atunci, dar esti bine conditionat
pavlovian sa sari sa faci pe indignatu' cand auzi cuvinte cheie, te-nteleg),
insa la alte doua chestiuni iti dai cu tesla-n oua singur, daca permisa mi-e
expresia.
1) De cand e interzis sa te pronunti in sensul ca ti-e scarba de anumite
(orice) practici sexuale si de prozelitismul aferent? Nu imi e sila doar de
homosexuali, am aceleasi calde opinii si despre pedofili, zoofili, necrofili
s.a.m.d. Potrivit logicii tale, avem voie sa ne exprimam dezgustul fatza de
ei doar fiindca astia sunt inca persecutati de public (adica inclinatiile
lor sunt inca penale in unele tzari din lume) si n-au comunitati sa faca
gat si demonstratii-n strada? Ce rezulta deci, avem voie sa facem gat doar
daca ne permite guvernmentu' si varii lobby groups, dashteptule? Mirosi
cumva a ipocrimen sau mi se pare mie?
Si n-ai nimerit-o cu egzemplul cu doftorul, ala de orice culoare ar fi e
OBLIGAT sa ma trateze (sau la homosexuali e permis sa discrimineze in
functie de preferinte sexuale?!?) - si nu exista in nici un caz o obligatie
a mea corelativa de a digera fituici de prozelitism homo sau de a-l bate pe
umar, bravo dom' doftor, imi place cum te acuplezi. Si viceversa pentru
clientii mei dupa ce-mi achita onorariul corespunzator.
2) E amuzant sa vad cum strambi din nasuc ca vai, se insulta oamenii-ntre ei
in romaneste-n public, n'est-ce pas, educatzia ta fina iti cauzeaza la
stomah sa-nduri asa ceva. Ei bine, poate ca educatzia mea fina imi cauzeaza
la stomah sa-ndur injurii-n englezeste (unii invatza engleza din carti si cu
profesor, altzii prin AA si grupurile de gay si dykes, stii). Si ca sa
intelegi mai bine: pe romaneste fuck are ca echivalent optim expresia
vulgara imi bag pula. Deci fuck off, pretene, inainte sa te plangi de
maniere si magari violenti mai cata-te-n oglinda, si afla ca nu e Romania
asa de plina de netoti pe cat iti place tie sa-ti inchipui.

Respekt,

valachus

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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Fascismul american, Controlul mass-media

2005-02-25 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Bjola, rapandula buboasa si intelectual corcit, mi-a luat ceva timp sa-mi
dau seama de ce, pe langa ura pe care i-o porti lui Bush, il detesti in
egala masura si pe ex-catindatul Kerry: amandoi s-au pronuntzat impotriva
legalizarii in USA a casatoriilor intre homosexuatzi. Adio, deci, viselor
tale frumoase in care mergeai la altar in rochie alba cu dantela si te purta
barbat-to peste pragul cuibusorului de nebunii.
Dar bibicule, nu-i nici o problema, daca dragostea e mare, putetzi trai in
concubinaj pana la adanci batranetzi, nuu? Ziceai ca te duci acuma in Hawaii
(nu-i asa, o destinatzie favorita a berbantzilor adevarati, nu la munte la
schi sau alte alea friguroase, brr naspa-i acolo, ti se face pielea de
gaina pe gambele proaspat epilate si nu arata bine prin dres) - o sa frangi
inimi, berbantule, mai ales daca-ti iei si ukulelele ca un macho adevarat si
mai tragi o hula romantica in fapt de seara la lu'au.

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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Fascismul american, Controlul mass-media

2005-02-24 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Da' ce crezi tu tzarane, ca pot avea privilegiul sa vorbeasca cu
presedintele USA orice fel de bolsevici dezechilibrati ca tine? Deja salivai
la ideea ca o sa puteti infiltra membri din factiunea Tembeli leftisti in
libertate la intrunirea aia! Ete na ca nu se putu! Poate data viitoare.
Si, bibicutz, nu-mi purta mie de grija cu manicuristele, n-am nici un fel de
legaturi nici cu manicuriste nici cu manicuristi, nici in Craiova si nici
aiurea. Unu ca-mi provocatzi sila, si doi ca din asemenea legaturi
primejsiloase oricand m-as putea pomeni ca ma invart de tulpina aia noua
virulenta de HIV, sper ca ai auzit de ea, aia de-va imputineaza comunitatea
vazand cu ochii (si-i afecteaza-ndeosebi pe utilizatorii de crystal meth,
deci tzine okii-n patru, da? mi-ar lipsi iesirile tale delirant-ilariante).
Si tot n-ai raspuns la interpelare, tavarase, raspunde cinstit (comunitatea
voastra incurajeaza iesirea din closet ... nu, din DULAP - engleza, bat-o
vina): deci, esti sau nu esti abonat la Gay Politics? Si de ce?


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 Ia vezi Schiau-Nazistu si Valachus-Dobitocus cate parale da Fuhrerul
 vostru iubit pe free speech. A trebuit sa anuleze o discutie in
 Germania pt ca nemtii au refuzat sa manareasca intalnirea cu intrebari
   masluite.

 With a Hush and a Whisper, Bush Drops Town Hall Meeting with Germans
 Der Spiegel



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Re: [protest-ro] Fascismul american, Controlul mass-media

2005-02-23 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Bjola, nu esti doar deranjat la cap, esti si tzaran prost! Ori nu stii
engleza suficient de bine, ori ai impresia ca restul lumii nu cunoashte
limba asta cat sa-si dea seama ca batzi campii! Si, prapaditule, chiar nu
te-ai abtinut sa nu cenzurezi doua paragrafe din articol (articol si asa la
limita paranoiei), nu se simtzea bine bolsevicul din tine daca nu ajusta
nitzel realitatea la convingerile lui ideologice!

Deci pe scurt, faptul ca DHS angajeaza temporar reporteri someri pentru un
exercitiu de PR si comunicare DE UZ INTERN e o forma de fascism? Somerii
n-au voie sa se mai angajeze, in conceptia ta? Ar trebui eliminati fizic sau
bagati la puscarie cum facea statul comunist roman, pentru parazitism
social? Eu zic c-ar trebui sa faci reclamatie la farmacie, iar ti-au vandut
aia calmante expirate!

 The posting, which has since been taken off the site, sought
 applicants who can write copy for an online news service reporting
 events within the exercise for an audience of exercise participants.

 You must NOT be currently employed by a real news organization and
 will be required to sign a nondisclosure agreement barring you from
 writing about this in the future, the job posting stated.

The reporters will be expected to start around March 14. The job would
last for three to four weeks. Journalists will  receive competitive pay
rates, according to the job ad.


Si paragrafele taiate la cenzura (tot nu-mi vine sa cred cat de imbecil poti
sa fii):

Defense reporters, for example, often observe war games with the
understanding they won't write about them afterward to develop sources or
better understand their beat.

The firm Ogilvy Public Relations is helping DHS hire the reporters. Zachary
Twigg of Ogilvy said the posting was taken off the site because a number of
applicants responded.

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/022305/homelan
d.html

Mai incearca din nou sa dezinformezi public, ti-am zic ca rad de ma
prapadesc cand te dai in vileag ca un mascarici bolsevic ce esti!

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 O noua fila in incercarile fasciste ale Administratiei Bush a a
 control mass-media: acum angajeaza jurnalisti care sa stie sa taca
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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Fascismul american, Controlul mass-media

2005-02-23 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Tz tz tz tz. Partidul ce parere are oare despre acest gen de legaturi
neprincipiale, decadente, netovarasesti, tavaris Bjola? Ne trimiti sa citim,
ce? Nu c-ar fi fost dubii cu privire la modul in care l-atzi depistat pe
numitul cetatean Gannon, dar chiar nu te poti abtine? Dupa ce ca tocmai ai
fost prins cu minciuna-n falsh, acuma faci reclama la site-uri de
prozelitism si ademenire homosexuata? Macar admite, daca ai curaj, ca suntem
intre cunoscuti: nu-i asa ca esti abonat la lista email Gay Politics a lui
mr. Aravosis?

http://AMERICAblog.blogspot.com
by John Aravosis  friends

Join my Gay Politics
email list: click here

Si reclama pe site:

Outsports.com

If one in 10 men are gay, there are over 100 gay men in the NFL. When one of
them comes out, Outsports will be there. Until then, you can meet gay jocks,
talk sports or look at our hot pictures of swimmers, gymnasts and other
athletes. Come celebrate athletes - and the sports they play! 

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 Se impute treaba rau: membri ai congresului cer oficial acum
 investigarea scandalului de propaganda in care este bagata Casa Alba...


http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/breaking-news-top-house-judiciary-an
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Re: [protest-ro] Dezertarea din armata US devine fenomen de masa....

2005-02-22 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last
(Sir  Winston Churchill - 1874-1965, British orator, author and prime
minister during World War II)

Si-mi reiterez sugestia, Invatati, invatati, invatati, ca incidenta
habarnismului complet e mult prea mare-n lume in acest moment, si
fandacsia-i gata. Si din fandacsie, dam dracului drept in ipohondrie!

Respekt,

valachus


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 From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Al doilea razboi mondial a fost mondial tocmai fiindca au existat
  pacifisti in Anglia, Franta si US la vremea aia.

 Vreti sa spuneti ca pacifistii au declansat razboiul

 Al doilea razboi mondial a fost pentru ca existau RAZBOINICI (sau
promotori
 ai razboiului sau whatever).

 Uite exemplu clasic de manipulare: a face legaturi stupide intre lucruri,
 pentru a demonstra o aberatie!

 Codruta



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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Fascismul american: controlul mass-media

2005-02-21 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Oaa, rushin! Tavarish Bjola Cornel nu are fonturi chirilice pe
calculator? Se poate asa ceva, tovarashe? Pai le are un McCarthyst ca
subsemnatu' si nu le ai matale, activist cu state vechi de plata? Asteptam
autocritica, taioasa ma-ntzelegi, la prima sedintza de comitet! Apropo de
autocritica, am vazut zilele astea o metoda suparata de tot la shiitii din
Irak. Cetatzeanul isi ia un satar monstruos si isi face autocritica taioasa
pana ramane fara scalp pe tzeasta! Ar fi bine s-o inveti rapid, ca ai
dezonorat partidul si memoria lui Lenin, si la urmatoarea abatere la fel de
grava cred ca vei fi epurat din avangarda progresismului mondial!

PS hai diazepam e unica urare potrivita pentru matale, mosh Bjola. Deci,

Hai diazepam, si vezi ce mai visezi ca am chef sa rad iar sa cad pe sub
masa.

valachus


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 Bush, judecat si inchis in Europa?
-
 i se pregateste ceva! Ce-o fi oare, ce-o fi oare,
intrebare-ntrebatoare!
 ЧÑ,о делаÑ,ÑO? zicea tovarasul Lenin.



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Re: [protest-ro] S-a sinucis un stangist!

2005-02-21 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Thompson was found dead Sunday in his Aspen-area home of an apparent
self-inflicted gunshot wound

Deci chiar asa sta treaba, GUNS KILL! Profund adevar contine zicala asta.

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 Thompson was a counterculture
 icon at the height of the
 Watergate era



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[protest-ro] ONU - sau ce obtii daca amesteci inghetata cu rahatul (reteta frantuzeasca)

2005-02-20 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo


  
UN forces - just a bunch of thugs?
By Mark Steyn
(Filed: 15/02/2005)

It's a good basic axiom that if you take a quart of ice-cream and a quart of 
dog faeces and mix 'em together the result will taste more like the latter than 
the former. That's the problem with the UN. If you make the free nations and 
the thug states members of the same club, the danger isn't that they'll meet 
each other half-way but that the free world winds up going three-quarters, 
seven-eighths of the way. Thus the Oil-for-Fraud scandal: in the end, Saddam 
Hussein had a much shrewder understanding of the way the UN works than Bush and 
Blair did.

And, of course, corrupt organisations rarely stop at just one kind. If you 
don't want to bulk up your pension by skimming the Oil-for-Food programme, 
don't worry, whatever your bag, the UN can find somewhere that suits - in West 
Africa, it's Sex-for-Food, with aid workers demanding sexual services from 
locals as young as four; in Cambodia, it's drug dealing; in Kenya, it's the 
refugee extortion racket; in the Balkans, sex slaves.

But you get the general picture: on a UN peace mission, everyone gets his 
piece. Didier Bourguet, a UN staffer in Congo and the Central African Republic, 
enjoyed the pleasures of 12-year-old girls, and as a result is now on trial in 
France. His lawyer has said he was part of a UN paedophile network that 
transcends national boundaries.

Now how about this? The Third US Infantry Division are raping nine-year olds in 
Ramadi, Iraq. Ready, set, go! That thundering sound outside your window isn't 
the new IKEA sale, but the great herd of BBC/CNN/Independent/Guardian/New York 
Times/Le Monde/Sydney Morning Herald/Irish Times/Cork Examiner reporters 
stampeding to the Sunni Triangle. Whoa, hold up, lads, it's only hypothetical.

But think about it: the merest glimpse of a freaky West Virginia tramp leading 
an Abu Ghraib inmate around with girlie knickers on his head was enough to 
prompt calls for Rumsfeld's resignation, and for Ted Kennedy to charge that 
Saddam's torture chambers were now open under new management, and for Robert 
Fisk to be driven into the kind of orgasmic frenzy unseen since his column on 
how much he enjoyed being beaten up by an Afghan mob: Just look at the way US 
army reservist Lynndie England holds the leash of the naked, bearded Iraqi, 
wrote Fisk. No sadistic movie could outdo the damage of this image. In 
September 2001, the planes smashed into the buildings; today, Lynndie smashes 
to pieces our entire morality with just one tug on the leash.

Who's straining at the leash here? Down, boy. But, if Lynndie's smashed to 
pieces our entire morality with just one tug, Bush's Zionist neocons getting it 
on with Congolese kindergarteners would have the Independent calling for US 
expulsion from the UN - no, wait, from Planet Earth: slice it off from Maine to 
Hawaii and use one of those new Euro-Airbuses to drag it out round the back of 
Uranus.

But systemic UN child sex in at least 50 per cent of their missions? The 
transnational morality set can barely stifle their yawns. If you're going to 
rape prepubescent girls, make sure you're wearing a blue helmet.

And at least the Pentagon put a stop to Abu Ghraib. As a UN official in Congo 
told the Telegraph yesterday: The crux of the problem is that if the UN gets 
bolshie with these governments then they stop providing the UN with troops and 
staff.

And the problem with that is?

In Congo, the UN has now forbidden all contact between its forces and the 
natives. The rest of the world should be so lucky.

I take it from his use of bolshie that the quoted UN wallah is British. If 
so, that's the system in a nutshell: when a British bigwig is with British 
forces, he'll enforce British standards; when a British official is holed up 
with an impeccably multilateral force of Uruguayans, Tunisians, etc, he's 
more circumspect. When in Rome, do as the Visigoths do.

The child sex racket is only the most extreme example of what's wrong with the 
UN approach to the world. Developed peoples value resilience: when disaster 
strikes, you bounce back. A hurricane flattens Florida, you patch things up and 
reopen. As the New Colonial Class, the UN doesn't look at it like that: when 
disaster strikes, it just proves you and your countrymen are children who need 
to be taken under the transnational wing.

The folks that have been under the UN wing the longest - indeed, the only ones 
with their own permanent UN agency and semi-centenarian refugee camps - are 
the most comprehensively wrecked people on the face of the earth: the 
Palestinians. UN territories like Kosovo are the global equivalent of 
inner-city council estates with the blue helmets as local enforcers for the 
absentee slum landlord. By contrast, a couple of years after imperialist 
warmonger Bush showed up, Afghanistan and Iraq have elections, presidents and 
prime ministers.

When the tsunami hit, hundreds of thousands of 

Re: [protest-ro] Fascismul american: controlul mass-media

2005-02-20 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Bjola, nu ma pot abtine sa nu rad cand citesc ce nazdravanii iti mai elimina
telectul, si sari de la una la alta ca prostituatele la batranetze din pat
in pat. Acum o luna parca Bush furase (a doua oara, adica - LOL) alegerile.
Acuma, daca recurgeti la impeachment nu inseamna implicit ca achiesati la
rezultatul scrutinului? Si care e problema ta daca unii sau altii mananca in
USA rahat? Esti contribuabil american, tzarane, sa vociferezi ca atunci cand
chiar ai acest drept? Si cand mananci rahat leftist, mananci pe bani
publici, din bani privatzi sau o faci ca si altzii pe gratis, din pasiune?
Ce-i amuzant acuma ca finalmente puteti si voi, scotocind site-urile cu
curve masculine, ca puteti imbini utilul (calomnia si delirul politic cu
program) cu placutul (mai vezi si tu o buca fina, o chestie acolo).

Hai diazepam!

valachus


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 Scandalul despre legaturile dintre Casa Alba si un male prostitute
 (tariful respectivului era de $200 pe ora si $1200 pe week-end; ia
 vedeti Schiau si Valachus ca stiu ca va curg balele dupa asa ceva)
 sunt acum peste tot in mainstream media.

 Treaba creste ca un bulgare de zapada de la zi la zi. De ce? Pt ca
 GannonGate reprezinta inca un element din operatiunea de natura
 fascista prin care Bush a incercat sa puna mass-media cu botul pe
 labe. Mai exact exista dovezi clare acum ca oamenii lui au platit cel
 putin 5 jurnalisti cu sume intre $20.000 si $240.000 DIN BANI PUBLICI
 (adica ai lui US tax-payer) ca sa manance rahat!

 Ce fel de rahat? Ca cel mancat pe lista asta de Schiau-nazistu' si
 Valachus-rasistus-libidinosus sau Bouleanu turnatoru'-securist:



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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Fascismul american: controlul mass-media

2005-02-20 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

a achiesa = vb. intr. (jur.) - a consimti, a accepta conditiile unui
contract (fr. acquiescer, lat. acquiescere); Dictionar de Neologisme,
editia a III-a, Ed. Academiei RSR, 1978

 Ce inseamna 'achiesati'?



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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Fascismul american: controlul mass-media

2005-02-20 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Man, you must be smokin some serious shit, man! You're trippin', man!

Bush, judecat si inchis in Europa? Saddam, judecat la Haga? Saddam, inchis
in Europa? Pai cum asa, parca bietul om fusese arestat in baza unei
interventii straine total ilegale, a cainelui de Bush! Hotaraste-te, ori il
inchizi pe Bush, ori pe Saddam! Tertium non datur! Dar cand iti zic eu ca
dupa ce bagi un joint esti absolut ilariant, stiu eu ce spun!

Si hai sa ma fac ca nu-nteleg care-ti e rafuiala cu Pinochet si Kissinger:
ii ai la ranza c-au belit bolsevici si maoisti? Cred si eu ca-i nasol,
moshule, sa stii ca astia care ti-au belit tavariscii stau bine mersi in
siguranta in lagarul imperialist.
Ah, dar ce vad, alte stiri nasoale: ca urmare a ultimelor evolutii pe plan
international, Castro si comunismul cubanez penduleaza precar deasupra
gropii, iar lui Kim Jong Il, ala mic, cu uniforma - il stii, ochelaristu' -
i se pregateste ceva! Ce-o fi oare, ce-o fi oare, intrebare-ntrebatoare!
 ? zicea tovarasul Lenin. Mai rasfiratzi, mai baietzi, mai
rasfiratzi, zic eu.

Hai diazepam!

valachus


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 Bush fascistu' e pe craca!
 Impeachment-ul bate greu la usa. Chestia cea mai placuta va fi insa
 cand individul va fi judecat la Haga, drept CRIMINAL DE RAZBOI, si va
 sfarsi in aceiasi celula fie cu jigodia de Milosevici, fie cu canalia
 de Saddam.

 E scenariu asta asa implauzibil? Pai sa vedem: Pinochet a scapat la
 mustata de puscarie in Spania, dar de atunci nu a mai facut nici o
 calatorie in afara Chile. Kissinger nu pune piciorul prin Europa pt ca
 exista cateva mandate de arestare pe numele lui. Pana si jigodia de
 Rumsfeld a refuzat luna trecuta sa mearga in Germania pt ca o
 organizatie americana a deschis proces la Munchen si a cerut arestarea
 lui pt crime de razboi. Bush e deja cu un pas in puscarie, si abia
 astept sa-l vad cum o sa se bata pt o lingura de fasole putrezita cu
 Saddam sau Milosevici in beciurile puscariei de la BXL!



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Re: [protest-ro] Nou scandal sexual la Casa Alba?

2005-02-12 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Dar ce bibicule, leftistii-pacifistii avetzi contract de exclusivitate la
prestari servicii cu tagma curvelor masculi? Si care e relatia intre cele
doua multimi de elemente, care o include pe cealalta? Sau relatia e cumva
una de identitate intre ele? Ce vi s-a umflat ranza-n halul asta, sunteti
geloshi, tuuu? Vai, dar nu pot sa-nteleg de unde atata lipsa totala de
toleranta la preferintele sexuale ale cuiva, parc-ai fi enorias de-al lui
Jerry Falwell, de-ala abrutizat de viata-n preerie! Cum ai putut sa fii asa
reactionar, tovarase!?! Asteptam sa-ti faci autocritica taioasa la
urmatoarea sedinta de partid! Pai parca in programul vostru e centrala
legalizarea casatoriilor intre homosexuatzi!

P.S. bibicule, poate ma inseala memoria dar anul trecut cand guvernatorul
democrat de NJ a fost prins cu curva masculina-n falsh (cum zicea, bietul,
toarshu' ceausescu) parca n-ai facut clabuci ca pentru bashina asta fasaita
de scandal. Serios acuma, care-i explicatia, in acceptiunea voastra o
atitudine de stransa conlucrare pe linia organelor de partid e de fapt o
referintza criptica la activitati pidosnice?


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Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 12:38 AM
Subject: [protest-ro] Nou scandal sexual la Casa Alba?




 Treaba cu jurnalistul ala fals se impute rau. NY Times si W Post au
 scris despre asta, CNN a prezentat cateva reportaje, iar unii cer acum
 o investigatie completa a scandalului. Se pare ca toate firele duc
 sus. Ca element nou, se pune problema acum daca nu cumva cineva de la
 CAsa Alba ar fi solicitat servicii sexuale de la male prostitutes...
 Sper sa nu aud ca Bush ar avea si el vreun costum patat dubios



 We demand the appointment of a Special Prosecutor to investigate the
 journalist using the pseudonym Jeff Gannon (James Dale Guckert)
 who attended daily press briefings at the White House and was
 regularly called upon by Scott McClellan.

 Obviously Jeff Gannon is not a bona fide journalist and should never
 have been given White House press credentials.

 In 2003, top White House officials gave Jeff Gannon exclusive access
 to an internal CIA memo that named Joseph Wilson's wife, Valerie
 Plame, as a covert CIA agent.

 It is obvious that there was a connection between Gannon, McClellan,
 and other top White House officials to run smear campaigns against
 White House enemies and to interfere with tough questions by real
 White House reporters. This is unacceptable in a Democracy.

 In addition, Jeff Gannon may have dabbled in male prostitution rings
 (through registration of sites like Hotmilitarystud.com,
 Militaryescorts.com, and Militaryescortsm4m.com) which raises the
 possibility he was bringing male prostitutes into the White House or
 other institutions of our government.

 These issues go infinitely beyond the charges involving Monica
 Lewinsky and therefore demand immediate investigation and prosecution.






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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam

2005-02-06 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Batrane, incerci sa rezonezi cu un individ dedicat cu ambii sai neuroni
virtutilor gandirii unice si lucrului in slujba politiei gandirii. Mai cu
ceva vreme in urma asta ne-ar fi invatzat pe toti gramatica, fonetica si
lexicul corecte ale limbii de lemn si ne-ar fi facut instructajul zilnic cu
lecturi si comentarii din Pravda. Si de fapt chiar cu asta se ocupa azi,
numai ca nu e vorba de limba de lemn clasica ci de neo-limba de lemn si
filosofia aferenta ei: pacifism/ multiculturalism/ progresism/
toleranta/ sexism/ crimele inegalabile ale imperialistilor americani/
s.a.m.d.
Daca totusi apreciezi experientele insolite, incearca in continuare sa-l
contrazici, sa vezi ce se intampla.

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From: Radu Ionescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: protest-ro@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [protest-ro] Re: Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam



 Neah, e o latura prezenta la toti oamenii.
 Nu-mi spune ca e cineva care  sa NU vrea un mobil mai
 fitzos sau bani suficienti sa nu se gandeasca cu teama
 la ziua de maiine, pentru ca nu cred.
 Consumerismul este o constanta eterna a fiintei umane :-)

 Cu canalele TV terestre ai insa dreptate, nimic nu te impiedica insa
 sa iei un  kit pentru receptie satelit si sa te uiti la chestii mai
spalate.
 Si mai sunt si programele Discovery :-)
 Iar la Carrefour e cel putin interesant orice ai zice.

 Radu


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 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 7:07 PM
 Subject: [protest-ro] Re: Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam


  Dupa 2-3 zile insa de stat prin RO nu stiam cum sa plec mai repede. Cu
  mici exceptii (cateva pe lista asta), distractia de capatai a
  oamenilor e sa stea la cozi la Carefour, sa-si afiseze mobilele (???)
  si sa discute exclusiv despre cum sa faca cat mai multi bani. Ce-i
  rahatul asta? Inteleg ca penuria din comunism a impins oarecum
  societatea in directia asta, dar treaba devine absolut hidoasa.
  Canalele TV sunt practic pline de mitocanii, infotainment, si
  penibilitati religioase: o populatie intreaga e indobitocita
  sistematic. Ca sa nu mai vorbesc de sexismul si rasismul rampant. Suna
  deja familiar, nu?
 
  Pe de alta parte, life is short, prostimea multa, iar eu am treaba ca
  la balamuc. La buna vedere!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Bush-Pinochio: O noua minciuna bushista iese la iveala...

2005-02-05 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Mai documenteaza-te, papitzoiule, cum e cu misoginismul si cum rezulta
acesta fara dubiu din tratamentul diferentiat (e.g. gradele de politete net
diferite) in functie de genul preopinentului. Asa incat estimez ca nu o data
ti-ai luat bucatzi in bot de la cucoane (si nu neaparat feministe) scarbite
de comportamentul tau obsecvios de tarat sexual.
De altfel domnitza Diana singura a spus ca face fatza si nu se fereste de
discutzii dure, si nu dumneaei are probleme si pauza de inspiratie ci tu, si
de indata ce nu mai ai argumente ti se incinge psihicul labil si ti se umfla
histeria de scapet de da in clocot - dovada si mesajul asta.
Te dai telectual si progresist? Ramai la cestiune, papitzoiule. La cestiune.
Deci, ce ziceai, cum e prezenta la vot in tzara lu' Irak?


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To: protest-ro@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:24 PM
Subject: [protest-ro] Re: Bush-Pinochio: O noua minciuna bushista iese la
iveala...




 --- In protest-ro@yahoogroups.com, valachus per skorilo
  scurta pauza publicitara pentru sponsorii foiletonului, Prozac si
 Diazepam.

 Horca-horca si pupicuristul de serviciu!Putea el sa lipseasca la apel
 si sa nu mai traga o limba de serviciu Marelui Lider? N-am inteles
 nimic din  baliverne pe care le-ai indrugrat despre Al Bundy, Bugs
 Bunny, gheare murdare, Diazepam si Prozac, dar in fine am renuntat
 demult sa inteleg ce rationamente poate sa faca creierul asta al tau
 ros de rasism (cum spuneai ca sunt asiaticii? galbejiti?) si
 super-prostie.

 Vad insa ca dogmatismul si pupicurismul nu mai sunt suficiente sa-ti
 acopere complexul ala imens de inferioritate care te roade pe
 dinauntru ca un cancer, asa ca ai recurs si la libidosenii jegoase.
 Mi-a placut insa cum te-a pus la Diana la punct! Ramane o dilema insa
 pe mine de ce toate scursorile care-l sustin pe Bush-fascistu' sunt
 ultra-misogini! Ia explica-ne si noua mai, Valachus per Prozacus, ca
 tu esti doar cel mai bine informat. De ce urasti femeile si te porti
 ca o scarba cu ele?




 
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  From: cbjola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: protest-ro@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 12:51 AM
  Subject: [protest-ro] Bush-Pinochio: O noua minciuna bushista iese la
  iveala...
 
 
  
  
   Alta minciuna gogonata a lui Bush-Impostorul a fost dezvaluita azi de
   presa: cifra anuntata de Bush de 60% prezentare la vot in Irak a fost
   masluita! Cifrele reale se invart in momentul de fata intre 20% si
   10%!!!
  
   Cand naiba o sa se opreasca sarlatanul asta din mintit? A mintit cu
   razboiul, a mintit despre cum a dezertat din armata, a mintit despre
   cum a fost arestat pt betie la volan, a mintit despre cum a furat
   alegerile, a mintit despre cum si-a fortat amica sa faca avort in
   tinerete, a mintit despre relatiile lui cu familia lui bin Laden, a
   mintit despre relatiile lui cu seful de la Enron, si tot asa.
  
  
  
  
   UPDATE: Officials Back Away from Early Estimates of Iraqi Voter
 
 
 
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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam

2005-02-04 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Ce sa-ti zic prietene... Cred ca raspunsul potrivit pentru tine, in cazul
asta, e o straveche zicatoare americana:
Drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [protest-ro] Re: Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam



 Sa nu uitam mister acritura aroganta ca si US ii impacheteaza pe
respectivii
 si ii trimite frumos lui Fidel. Asa ca nu stiu ce-o fi mai nasol, sa nu te
 primeasca la masa, sau sa te trimita inapoi la tatucu cu niste bocanci in
 cur si muscaturi de ciini bonus din Land of the Free?
 Limba lunga, saracia omului.



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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam

2005-02-04 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Vezi, bjola, cand renuntzi la imprecatzii si incerci sa fii elevat,
instantaneu atmosfera devine mai civilizata, mai telectuala!
Spre exemplu schimbul tau de replici la agatzament cu distinsa domnitza
diana m-a inspirat spontan la un haiku:

Sinonime cat,
i vreau s tiu de-i bine
Pacifiti - rahat?



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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: [protest-ro] Re: Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam




 --- In protest-ro@yahoogroups.com, diana lungu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 e doar pasiunea ascunsa in spatele cuvintelor - si de ce nu,
 portretul absurdului lumii in care traim.

 Complet de acord, cu precizarea ca treaba are o logica, desi perversa.



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Re: [protest-ro] Bush-Pinochio: O noua minciuna bushista iese la iveala...

2005-02-04 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Distrus esti ba moshule, ferfenitza, muci! Pana si Al Ternet stiu cand le
pute gura si isi rectifica gherlele flagrante sau (ca niste delatori
inveteratzi ce se afla) le sterg urmele! Dar tu trebuia sa fii mai varza
decat ei! Ai prins din zbor articolul asta si pana sa afli/sa itzi dai seama
ca de fapt aia de la Al Ternet s-au tzepuit si l-au dat jos de pe net,
repede l-ai prins in dintzi si nu l-ai lasat pana nu a aflat toata lumea ca
ai rahatzelu-n gura! LOL ! La Al Ternet nici macar 6 ore n-a stat articolul
online, dar nu-i nimic, arhiva yahoogroups e din fericire perena si putem
astfel contabiliza pentru posteritate, cu dovezi negru pe alb, inca un
episod din foiletonul Cornel infiereaza furtul la coshnitza. Si acum,
scurta pauza publicitara pentru sponsorii foiletonului, Prozac si Diazepam.

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Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 12:51 AM
Subject: [protest-ro] Bush-Pinochio: O noua minciuna bushista iese la
iveala...




 Alta minciuna gogonata a lui Bush-Impostorul a fost dezvaluita azi de
 presa: cifra anuntata de Bush de 60% prezentare la vot in Irak a fost
 masluita! Cifrele reale se invart in momentul de fata intre 20% si
 10%!!!

 Cand naiba o sa se opreasca sarlatanul asta din mintit? A mintit cu
 razboiul, a mintit despre cum a dezertat din armata, a mintit despre
 cum a fost arestat pt betie la volan, a mintit despre cum a furat
 alegerile, a mintit despre cum si-a fortat amica sa faca avort in
 tinerete, a mintit despre relatiile lui cu familia lui bin Laden, a
 mintit despre relatiile lui cu seful de la Enron, si tot asa.




 UPDATE: Officials Back Away from Early Estimates of Iraqi Voter



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[protest-ro] Atentie, pacifisti, puneti-va rapid tichiile de folie Alu

2005-02-04 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Atentie, pacifisti, acesta este ultimul avertisment, puneti-va rapid tichiile 
de folie Alu, urmeaza un comunicat neoconservator cu efecte daunatoare pentru 
creierele bine spalate. 

3..., 2..., 1...



Shiite Ticket Has Big Lead in Iraq Vote 

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=514e=2u=/ap/20050205/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_050204212161


  1 hour, 28 minutes ago  

By MARIAM FAM, Associated Press Writer 

BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S.-backed Prime Minister Ayad Allawi was trailing a Shiite 
ticket with ties to Iran in Iraq (news - web sites)'s historic election, 
according to partial returns released Friday. One U.S. soldier was killed and 
seven wounded in the north, and gunmen seized an Italian journalist in Baghdad. 

The United Iraqi Alliance, endorsed by Iraq's top Shiite clerics, captured more 
than two-thirds of the 3.3 million votes counted so far, the election 
commission said. The ticket headed by Allawi, a secular Shiite, had about 18 
percent - or more than 579,700 votes. 


Those latest partial figures from Sunday's contest for 275 National Assembly 
seats came from 10 of Iraq's 18 provinces, said Hamdiyah al-Husseini, an 
election commission official. All 10 provinces have heavy Shiite populations, 
and the Alliance had been expected to do well there. So far, 45 percent of the 
vote has been counted in Baghdad, with varying percentages tallied in the other 
nine provinces. 


Nevertheless, the huge lead that the Shiites were rolling up among their core 
constituency in the Shiite heartland of southern Iraq pointed to the likelihood 
of a tremendous victory. An Alliance win would seal the Shiite majority's bid 
to claim power after centuries of domination by Sunni Arabs, including years of 
oppression by Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s Sunni-led regime. 


No returns have been released from the Kurdish provinces of the north or mainly 
Sunni provinces north and west of the capital. Many Sunni Arabs, who comprise 
an estimated 20 percent of Iraq's 26 million people, are believed to have 
stayed away from the polls - either out of fear of retaliation or anger at a 
vote held while U.S. troops are in the country. 


The Shiite ticket was also running strong among Iraqis who voted in 14 foreign 
countries. The International Organization for Migration, which supervised the 
expatriate vote, said the Shiite Alliance won about 36 percent of the 263,685 
absentee ballots. The Kurdish Alliance List took nearly 30 percent, and 
Allawi's ticket was third with about 9 percent. 


Allawi, who lived in exile in Britain during Saddam's rule, had been expected 
to draw support from many voters outside Iraq. 


Seats in the National Assembly will be apportioned according to each faction's 
percentage of the nationwide vote. A two-thirds majority in the assembly - 
possibly in a coalition with Kurds and others - would enable the cleric-backed 
ticket to wield considerable influence in drafting the new constitution and 
shaping a democratic Iraq. 


The leader of the Shiite ticket, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, has promised an inclusive 
government and a role for the Sunnis and others in drafting the constitution - 
the major task of the new assembly. 


Al-Hakim and other figures in the Alliance spent years in exile in mainly 
Shiite Iran, but they insist they have no intention of transforming Iraq into a 
clerical-run state. The ticket was endorsed by Iraq's most revered top Shiite 
cleric, the Iranian-born Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani. 


The signs of a strong Shiite victory have sparked fears that the Sunni Arab 
minority will not accept any new government that emerges from the election, 
fueling the mainly Sunni insurgency. 

[...]


Associated Press writers Ellen Knickmeyer, Sameer N. Yacoub and Jason Keyser 
contributed to this report. 


 




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Re: [protest-ro] Re: Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam

2005-02-03 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Era si firesc ca dupa epurarea elementelor dusmanoase din colectivul de
redactie la EvZ sa se rectifice si linia ideologica a acestui organ de
informare a maselor muncitoare. Observam cu satisfactie ca s-a adoptat si
metoda progresista de a o da cu curaj, anonima, pac la Rasboiul - in ce ma
priveste ii adresez un calduros salut tovarashului R.P., cadru de nadejde si
om de mare viitor.
Si desigur ca zilele urmatoare EvZ va anuntza si decizia salutara a
organelor de conducere centrala de la Bruxelles potrivit careia ambasadele
statelor Uniunii Republicilor Sovietice Europene vor trebui sa se consulte
cu organele de securitate ale Republicii Populare Cuba atunci cand au de
gand sa invite la mese tovarasesti cetatzeni ai Republicii Populare Cuba. Nu
de alta, dar oricand la asemenea intruniri de lucru se pot infiltra elemente
dusmanoase, contrarevolutionare, cunoscute in America si restul lumii
libere ca dizidenti sau militanti pentru democratie. Democratie?! Ha!
Libertate?! Ahahhaahaha!
Traiasca lupta pentru pace, traiasca pretenia-ntre tzarile socialiste,
moarte imperialismului american!

s.s.,

(indescifrabil)


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From: diana lungu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [protest-ro] Re: Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam



In optica variatiunilor pe aceeasi tema, postez aici pe lista un articol
aparut  in Ev Zilei, (deh ziar romanesc) dar cu mentiunea: IL ROG PE D-NUL
bouleanu SA NU MA CHEME IN JUSTITIE, pentru acest lucru.

Cruciatul Bush, cu ochii pe marele Orient Mijlociu
Bush, mindru de rolul sau istoric  Versiune pentru tiparire  Care
este parerea ta?Stiri externeMoarte suspecta la Tbilisi

R.P
Vineri, 04 Februarie 2005

Presedintele SUA vede un arc al democratiei din Maroc pina in Bahrein
Statele Unite ale Americii vor ramine in ofensiva in lupta impotriva
terorismului pina la cistigarea acesteia, a afirmat, miercuri seara,
presedintele american George W. Bush, in discursul anual privind starea
natiunii. Tara noastra este in continuare tinta unor teroristi care vor sa
ne intimideze si sa-i ucida pe multi dintre noi, a spus presedintele Bush.
Vom ramine in ofensiva pina ce lupta va fi cistigata, a adaugat el.
Intr-un discurs ce s-a dorit o continuare a celui rostit cu ocazia
ceremoniei de investitura de acum doua saptamini, presedintele american a
prezentat democratizarea a ceea ce el numeste marele Orient Mijociu drept
prioritatea agendei sale internationale, afirmind ca pacea este la indemina
israelienilor si palestinienilor si ca o noua etapa se deschide in Irak dupa
alegerile de la 30 ianuarie.
Scopul celor doua state democratice, Israelul si Palestina, de a trai unul
alaturi de celalalt este la indemina si America le va ajuta sa atinga acest
obiectiv, a subliniat liderul de la Casa Alba, anuntind in context un
ajutor de 350 de milioane de dolari din partea SUA pentru palestinieni. Asa
cum era de asteptat, Bush a insistat pe succesul alegerilor din Irak,
afirmind ca libertatea acestei tari va face Statele Unite mai sigure pentru
generatiile viitoare. Ne vom intensifica eforturile in vederea formarii
unor forte de securitate irakiene mai capabile, care sa includa ofiteri
pregatiti si o structura de comanda.
Pe masura ce aceste forte vor prelua mai multe responsabilitati in domeniul
securitatii, Statele Unite si partenerii din cadrul coalitiei isi vor asuma
tot mai mult un rol de sprijin, a spus Bush, refuzind insa sa raspunda
cererilor formulate de democrati in ceea ce priveste stabilirea unei
strategii de retragere din Irak.
Avertismente severe
Liderul de la Casa Alba a lansat avertismente severe Damascului si
Teheranului si a cerut Arabiei Saudite si Egiptului, aliatii ai SUA in
regiune, sa accelereze reformele democratice, in cadrul eforturilor
Washingtonului pentru promovarea pacii si stabilitatii in marele Orient
Mijlociu, evocind in continuarea discursului sau  un arc ce merge din
Maroc pina in Iordania si Bahrein.
Lacrimi si propaganda
Expertii in materie de propaganda ai Casei Albe si-au dovedit inca o data
maiestria, asezind in publicul ce a asistat la discurs, in jurul primei
doamne, Laura Bush un sergent mutilat pe frontul din Afganistan, o militanta
irakiana pentru drepturile omului si parintii indoliati a unui soldat
american ucis in Irak (foto). Dupa ce au fost prezentate asistentei, mama
indoliata si irakianca s-au imbratisat intr-un gest patetic, menit sa
sublinieze maretia jertfei militarilor americani pentru o cauza atit de
nobila. In aceeasi nota, unii dintre participanti au venit imbracati in
violet, culoarea folosita in Irak pentru a insemna degetele alegatorilor
care si-au exercitat dreptul de a vota. Citiva dintre republicani si-au
expus cu mindrie degetele minjite cu violet in onoarea discursului lui Bush.
Mariajele gay, la index
In sectiunea dedicata problemelor interne, Bush a vorbit despre reformele
necesare in domeniul social si a reiterat mai vechea sa opozitie in 

Re: [protest-ro] Alegerile din Iraq vs alea din Vietnam

2005-02-01 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Morala nedeclarata, tipic progresista: galbejitzii si arabetzii nu-s
capabili sa mentina o democratie sau chiar o societate stabila decat daca
sunt disciplinatzi cu harapnicul si AKM-ul de activisti marxist-maoisti sau
islamofascisti. Pacat ca a imbatranit Kerry si nu-l ajuta botoxul suficient
cat sa-si puna iar jacheta de GI si sa mai traga niste declaratii despre
crimele incomparabile ale imperialistilor americani in Irak. Da' Bjola, nu
te bagi tu? Cu retorica ta si un kefiyeh pe ochi ai fi curat insurgent
zarqawian, moshule! Mai tragi si niste urlete a la Deano si fandacsia-i
gata.
P.S.: unde au fost duminica amicii tai progresisti care faceau pe scuturile
umane acum doi ani in Iraq? A, voi ca si tziganii lautari, prestatzi numai
daca va lipeshte bashtanu' shef bancnota-n frunte, nu? Cred ca-i cam nasoala
pentru voi faza cu eliminarea dictatorilor arabi, ramanetzi shomeri flamanzi
pe drumuri.

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 Uite un articol publicat in 1967 cand US era bagat pana-n gat in alt
 razboi fara sanse de succes. Atunci prezentarea la vot a fost 83%, nu
 60% ca in Iraq. Ghici cine a castigat ultima strigare



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Re: [protest-ro] SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI

2005-01-31 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Parerea mea e ca ieri ai stat cu televizorul inchis sau te-ai uitat doar la
Al-Jazeera. Citez: astazi, dupa doi ani de confruntari, este evident pentru
toata lumea ca poporul irakian este principala victima a acestui conflict,
nicidecum beneficiarul sau.  Nu e deloc evident asa ceva, 'ai sictir deci
si la culcare, moftangiilor. Irakienii savureaza democratia, nu sunt o
natiune de abrutizati sau de lashi si observ cu satisfactie ca adevaratele
culori ale fascistilor deghizati in forte progresiste din toata lumea apar
la iveala. Mai mult, suntetzi total pe dinafara, unde atzi auzit voi ca
polonezii s-ar fi RETRAS DEJA din Iraq?? E clar, Al Jazeera e principala
sursa de informare pentru Al Termedia.

valachus

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SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI


Nota A.M.: Ceea ce puteti citi mai jos este o luare de pozitie, de
care adevarata societate civila romaneasca - nu cea a elitistilor
si liderilor de opinie, ci aceea alcatuita din cetateni obisnuiti -
duce lipsa.
http://ro.altermedia.info



Asociatia Altermedia, Bucuresti, ..

Catre,

PRESEDINTIA ROMÂNIEI - Compartimentul pentru Probleme cetatenesti,
audiente si petitii


Domnule Presedinte,

Am luat act cu suprindere si neplacere, de decizia dumneavoastra
privind suplimentarea efectivelor militare romanesti prezente in
Irak de partea coalitiei pro-americane.

In data de 17 ianuarie 2005, dumneavoastra ati aprobat hotararea
CSAT, prin care Romania mareste contingentul militar din Irak cu 100
de infanteristi. Aceasta, in timp ce Polonia si-a retras soldatii
din Irak, iar Ungaria si Bulgaria urmeaza sa faca la fel, ca sa
mentionam doar tarile apropiate noua ca pozitie geografica.

Un alt motiv invocat de partizanii invadarii Irakului a fost acela
ca poporul irakian trebuie eliberat de dictatorul Saddam Hussein
si ajutat sa se inscrie pe drumul democratiei si stabilitatii. Din
nou il citam pe seful statului american (19 martie 2003): Misiunea
noastra este sa dezarmam Irakul si sa eliberam oamenii de tiranie.
Astazi, dupa doi ani de confruntari, este evident pentru toata lumea
ca poporul irakian este principala victima a acestui conflict,
nicidecum beneficiarul sau. Zeci de mii de irakieni nevinovati au
murit, milioane traiesc in mizerie si sufera de foame, in timp ce
corporatiile transnationale prospera de pe urma petrolului irakian,
iar gruparile fundamentaliste islamice se dezvolta in voie.



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Re: [protest-ro] New file uploaded to protest-ro

2004-12-04 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

De curiozitate, daca vreunul aude la radio si/sau tv de povestea asta, sa
faca gestul gentil si sa dea sfoara-n tzara. Eu unul dau o bere pentru calul
celui care o sa surprinda momentul cesta istoric (o lada daca la respectivul
post radio/tv se da CHIAR inregistrarea).
Pt conformitate si comparatii cu ce veti auzi, linku-i aici:
http://www.evz.ro/diverse/700_milioane/700_milioane.mp3

valachus

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 Salut,
 Am facut la files un folder cu materiale despre alegeri, in care tocmai
am
 pus dragalashul ala de mp3 tocmai anuntat ;)
 Fisierul in sine are peste 400 kB; continutul lui va apare in EvZ de
maine.



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