Re: [proto] Phoenix3 at BoostCon?

2010-10-17 Thread Eric Niebler
On 10/17/2010 8:20 AM, Hartmut Kaiser wrote:
> Eric Niebler wrote:
>> IMO, Phoenix3 is one of the most important Boost development over the past
>> year. There should unquestionably be a presentation at BoostCon about it.
>> I think I'll go, and would at the very least like to help. Is anybody else
>> going, and are they interested in collaborating?
>>
>> There is obviously lots to talk about. Choosing a direction would be
>> tough, but I think it should focus the things that are new in v3 over v2.
>> I think an end-user-centric talk would be more valuable than a talk about
>> implementation details (despite how much fun it would be to give such a
>> talk). So I'm thinking about a talk on AST manipulation a-la Scheme
>> macros. There is evidence that there is already excitement about this
>> topic.[*] Thoughts?
>>
>> [*] http://cplusplus-soup.com/2010/07/23/lisp-macro-capability-in-c/
> 
> Sounds like a very valuable idea. Who would be willing to present that?

I would.

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Re: [proto] Phoenix3 at BoostCon? (Fwd: [CfP] 5th Annual BoostCon, Aspen (CO, USA), May 15-20, 2011)

2010-10-17 Thread Hartmut Kaiser
> On 10/16/2010 7:51 AM, Hartmut Kaiser wrote:
> > Please distribute.
> > --
> >
> > 5TH ANNUAL BOOST CONFERENCE 2011
> > Aspen CO, USA, May 15 - 20, 2011, www.boostcon.com
> >
> > CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
> 
> 
> IMO, Phoenix3 is one of the most important Boost development over the past
> year. There should unquestionably be a presentation at BoostCon about it.
> I think I'll go, and would at the very least like to help. Is anybody else
> going, and are they interested in collaborating?
> 
> There is obviously lots to talk about. Choosing a direction would be
> tough, but I think it should focus the things that are new in v3 over v2.
> I think an end-user-centric talk would be more valuable than a talk about
> implementation details (despite how much fun it would be to give such a
> talk). So I'm thinking about a talk on AST manipulation a-la Scheme
> macros. There is evidence that there is already excitement about this
> topic.[*] Thoughts?
> 
> [*] http://cplusplus-soup.com/2010/07/23/lisp-macro-capability-in-c/

Sounds like a very valuable idea. Who would be willing to present that?

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Re: [proto] Phoenix3 at BoostCon? (Fwd: [CfP] 5th Annual BoostCon, Aspen (CO, USA), May 15-20, 2011)

2010-10-16 Thread Joel de Guzman

On 10/17/2010 2:42 AM, Eric Niebler wrote:

On 10/16/2010 7:51 AM, Hartmut Kaiser wrote:

Please distribute.
--

5TH ANNUAL BOOST CONFERENCE 2011
Aspen CO, USA, May 15 - 20, 2011, www.boostcon.com

CALL FOR PARTICIPATION



IMO, Phoenix3 is one of the most important Boost development over the
past year. There should unquestionably be a presentation at BoostCon
about it. I think I'll go, and would at the very least like to help. Is
anybody else going, and are they interested in collaborating?

There is obviously lots to talk about. Choosing a direction would be
tough, but I think it should focus the things that are new in v3 over
v2. I think an end-user-centric talk would be more valuable than a talk
about implementation details (despite how much fun it would be to give
such a talk). So I'm thinking about a talk on AST manipulation a-la
Scheme macros. There is evidence that there is already excitement about
this topic.[*] Thoughts?


This is definitely a very good idea. There hasn't been any talks on
lambda nor phoenix yet. I'm not sure I could come this time around,
but I'm definitely interested in helping out on the talk structure.
Even if we focus on the end-user, the scope is still very broad.
How basic would it be? Would it start as a tutorial on lambda
expressions, going through phoenix-esque extensions, then advance
to more advanced subjects like AST manipulation a-la Scheme macros?

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Re: [proto] Phoenix3 at BoostCon? (Fwd: [CfP] 5th Annual BoostCon, Aspen (CO, USA), May 15-20, 2011)

2010-10-16 Thread Thomas Heller
On Saturday 16 October 2010 20:42:46 Eric Niebler wrote:
> On 10/16/2010 7:51 AM, Hartmut Kaiser wrote:
> > Please distribute.
> > --
> > 
> > 5TH ANNUAL BOOST CONFERENCE 2011
> > Aspen CO, USA, May 15 - 20, 2011, www.boostcon.com
> > 
> > CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
> 
> 
> 
> IMO, Phoenix3 is one of the most important Boost development over the
> past year. There should unquestionably be a presentation at BoostCon
> about it. I think I'll go, and would at the very least like to help. Is
> anybody else going, and are they interested in collaborating?
> 
> There is obviously lots to talk about. Choosing a direction would be
> tough, but I think it should focus the things that are new in v3 over
> v2. I think an end-user-centric talk would be more valuable than a talk
> about implementation details (despite how much fun it would be to give
> such a talk). So I'm thinking about a talk on AST manipulation a-la
> Scheme macros. There is evidence that there is already excitement about
> this topic.[*] Thoughts?

This would be awesome! I would be happy to help here. I think I will not be 
able to come, since this it is just too expensive for a student from Europe 
:(

> [*] http://cplusplus-soup.com/2010/07/23/lisp-macro-capability-in-c/
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Re: [proto] Phoenix3 at BoostCon? (Fwd: [CfP] 5th Annual BoostCon, Aspen (CO, USA), May 15-20, 2011)

2010-10-16 Thread Michael Caisse

 On 10/16/2010 11:42 AM, Eric Niebler wrote:

On 10/16/2010 7:51 AM, Hartmut Kaiser wrote:

Please distribute.
--

5TH ANNUAL BOOST CONFERENCE 2011
Aspen CO, USA, May 15 - 20, 2011, www.boostcon.com

CALL FOR PARTICIPATION



IMO, Phoenix3 is one of the most important Boost development over the
past year. There should unquestionably be a presentation at BoostCon
about it. I think I'll go, and would at the very least like to help. Is
anybody else going, and are they interested in collaborating?

There is obviously lots to talk about. Choosing a direction would be
tough, but I think it should focus the things that are new in v3 over
v2. I think an end-user-centric talk would be more valuable than a talk
about implementation details (despite how much fun it would be to give
such a talk). So I'm thinking about a talk on AST manipulation a-la
Scheme macros. There is evidence that there is already excitement about
this topic.[*] Thoughts?

[*] http://cplusplus-soup.com/2010/07/23/lisp-macro-capability-in-c/



I'll be in the front row!

I agree that a user-centric talk makes the most sense; however, if you 
are able to get multiple slots then a second talk about the wizardry 
would be wonderful. More precisely, talking about the design choices 
made and the implementation techniques utilized would be a an excellent 
segment for those who aspire to be more than users and wanting to expand 
their understanding and skills.


I was petitioning (for selfish purposes) last year for a session that 
looked under the hood of a library and discussed the design, 
implementation and tricks of the trade. Alas, I was unable (even with 
bribery of homemade chocolate chip cookies and free pizza) to find 
someone knowledgeable enough who could pull off the task and willing to 
sign up.


Two years back we had a number of "author's corner" sessions which were 
wonderful. But at 45-minutes they mostly left me wanting to know more 
about some of the implementation details.



Take care -
michael

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