Hi Andrew,
Thank you very much for your answers here.
I'm glad to have your explanations and opinion; I've read your answer
too in the subject
What must Prototype JS do to become the library of choice? (with the
link you provided) and I will tend to say that I'm ok with your
position (If I can say, not sure it is correct in english, sorry).
Even if I don't have to care about market share, even if nobody will
never ask why I have used this or this library (I'm lucky compared to
some of the others participants) - I can deal with a niche library
as you say as I working in a niche too -,
I really needed this kind of clarifications.
I still have a last question, however, but I don't want overload the
topic here.
(nevertheless, I hope I could have your point of view for this one
too)
Best regards,
Vinc.
On 23 août, 02:07, Andrew Dupont googlegro...@andrewdupont.net
wrote:
OK, let's start from the beginning:
On Jul 13, 9:36 am, Cantrelle Vincent vcantre...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope that I have a
truncated view of the situation, and that the number of users for
Prototype.js is still high enough, and the motivation of the core
team too, so that this library will be still maintained / improved in
the futur.
Prototype's development over the past few years has been typified by a
few months of inactivity, then a furious week of activity, and I doubt
that will change anytime soon. It happens that way because I'm
juggling several different open-source projects on top of my day job,
and so I try to rotate between them every few weeks.
So don't read anything into the periods of inactivity. I don't have
any plans to stop working on Prototype.
On Jul 15, 12:49 pm, Phil Petree phil.pet...@gmail.com wrote:
I certainly have the resouces to host the forums and would have no problem
in putting them up and maintaining them but it would take a consensus of the
powers that be because if none of the guys that answer the majority of the
questions are interested then it would just be like the french forums when
no one replied.
If people feel like this mailing list isn't serving their needs, I've
got no problem with someone wanting to start a forum somewhere else.
Frankly, I think the best solution would be to encourage people with
support questions to post on StackOverflow and tag their questions
with prototype or prototypejs or something, but I'm open to other
suggestions. Certainly, if someone were willing to maintain some
forums, I'd be happy to give them the vouch, because that's a task we
know we'll never have time for.
On Jul 21, 8:42 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:
The current documentation (1.7) is generated directly from the source
code using a tool written by one of the core guys -- I think it's
called jsDoc or something like that. Anyway, it's just static HTML,
CSS and JavaScript (naturally) once that tool is done.
I think that if there was enough energy for moderation, or some sort
of community moderation system, that a great add-on to the site would
be something like Disqus, so the user comments and corrections could
be added to the mix.
Our documentation tool is called PDoc, and it's Tobie's brainchild. In
fact, he had spent some time modifying it to generate one HTML page
per method for precisely this purpose — so that we could enable Disqus
commenting on every page. I think the project got shelved when Tobie's
daughter was born, or else when he started working for Facebook. I'll
follow up with him and see if that's at a point where he can hand it
off to someone else.
I share the concerns about moderation, because while I agree that
PHP's documentation comments are a net benefit, many of them contain
sloppy code and încorrect information. But I think Disqus's likes
are a good start. Hopefully the cream will rise.
On Jul 26, 2:42 pm, Phil Petree phil.pet...@gmail.com wrote:
The core devs need to appoint a Community Activist whose responsibility it
is to build the community and who has the decision making authority to
implement these changes without bugging the devs with all our needs.
T.J. used to serve in this role, but stepped back some time ago
because of other commitments. You can blame me for not seeking out
someone to take his place; that's mostly why the documentation tickets
have been languishing on Lighthouse. I'm happy to appoint whoever
you guys think would do a good job.
On Aug 17, 10:04 am, Phil Petree phil.pet...@gmail.com wrote:
My fear is that prototype will ultimately face the same fate... be a
technically superior product with a few guys pitching in and carrying the
weight (anyone who follows this feed knows who the guys are who always pitch
in with an answer) while marketing, support, easy access to developed libs
and all the other goodies go ignored which causes adoption of the product to
dwindle because these things exist on another platform.
I know the major
