Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

[Poppa Bear]

One reason I got into Pro tools is because I lost a potential client who 
needed her sessions in pro tools. I couldn't afford that to become a 
pattern. It has been quite a learning curve. I had never even owned a Mac 
untill a month ago. So not only have I had to learn Voice over and PT, but I 
have had to learn some expensive lessons about the Mac/pro tools/ Avid 
politics and all that good stuff. About a week from now I should be starting 
to record a rock band that needs to finish half a dozen songs for their 
album and they wouldn't have went with me if I didn't have PT because their 
having everything mixed and mastered on a PT set up. I would be losing about 
$1000 if I had to pass that client up.
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Casey" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pro tools or Sonar?



Well said Nick,

My thoughts exactly.

I actually did a masters in music and technology last year just to have 
access to PT and a mac, but unfortunately,  I got so caught up with other 
work that I only just got a taste for it, and there wasn't much studio 
work involved in the end, however its great to learn the platform and not 
be afraid of Voice Over any more.


Brian.
--
From: "Nick Gawronski" 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 8:22 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

Hi, I think it really depends on what you plan to do with your audio 
editing.  I am using pro tools because I am in school and wanted to use 
the same program that all the other students in my classes were using. I 
could have chosen sonar as well as it is for my home setup currently and 
I am fine on the pc but did want to learn the mac and what my other 
options were for audio editing.  Do you know the mac and voiceover well 
enough to jump into pro tools or are you a pc user all of the way?  I do 
know that some studios do use sonar for some professional projects so if 
you want to go with sonar go for it.  I might buy a copy of sonar for my 
pc desktop and laptop so I can learn both as I have messed around with it 
some with window eyes and found it very usable.  There was no requirement 
for me to get pro tools or a mac but I did it to learn how they all 
worked.  If you have a pc and like what you are using and don't want to 
buy an entire new system then get sonar.  If you want to get another 
system and learn voiceover and the mac then get pro tools.  You don't 
have to get an audio interface at first if you don't want to if it will 
be to much to learn at once but I did for the moving faders as I use to 
have an analog 4 track tape recorder that also had faders so wanted this 
same type of setup.  If you just want to use the computer keyboard for 
learning how to do things first that is always an option and remember you 
can switch between them or use them both at the same time.  I have found 
sonar works fine on todays modern and some older desktops and laptops so 
always buying a special audio editing system I don't think is required if 
you are just learning. Perhaps give us some background on what you plan 
to use the system for and then we can help more.  Nick Gawronski


On 4/26/2012 11:13 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I will say one thing. At this point, I would have felt completely lost
in PT if I hadn't started as a Sonar user. I was able to use Sonar in a
couple sessions fairly easy. PT is a different beast.

- Original Message -
*From:* Pino Guarraci 
*To:* ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:41 AM
*Subject:* Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

Hello Chris,
I agree with you but do you think that Protools is even accessible
as Sonar?
Regards,
Pino
www.studiocrescendo.be 
www.proguide.eu 

- Original Message -
*From:* Christopher-Mark Gilland 
*To:* ptaccess@googlegroups.com 


*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

For one thing, do realize that on the Windows side of things,
ProTools is going to be almost useless.
If you get a mac, it works almost flawlessly. I would recommend
PT by far and away over Sonar! The effects are way better, the
sound is way better, and honestly, over all things I find at
least, are just way easier to do in PT in a whole. Plus, Sonar
is not industry standard, where as ProTools is.
Any good major recording studio is going to have most likely
one, if not more, ProTools systems that they can use.
So ultimately, I'd suggest PT, but that is me.
Chris.

- Original Message -
*From:* stuart young 
*To:* 'ptaccess@googlegroups.com'

Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

[Brian Casey]

Well said Nick,

My thoughts exactly.

I actually did a masters in music and technology last year just to have 
access to PT and a mac, but unfortunately,  I got so caught up with other 
work that I only just got a taste for it, and there wasn't much studio work 
involved in the end, however its great to learn the platform and not be 
afraid of Voice Over any more.


Brian.
--
From: "Nick Gawronski" 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 8:22 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

Hi, I think it really depends on what you plan to do with your audio 
editing.  I am using pro tools because I am in school and wanted to use 
the same program that all the other students in my classes were using. I 
could have chosen sonar as well as it is for my home setup currently and I 
am fine on the pc but did want to learn the mac and what my other options 
were for audio editing.  Do you know the mac and voiceover well enough to 
jump into pro tools or are you a pc user all of the way?  I do know that 
some studios do use sonar for some professional projects so if you want to 
go with sonar go for it.  I might buy a copy of sonar for my pc desktop 
and laptop so I can learn both as I have messed around with it some with 
window eyes and found it very usable.  There was no requirement for me to 
get pro tools or a mac but I did it to learn how they all worked.  If you 
have a pc and like what you are using and don't want to buy an entire new 
system then get sonar.  If you want to get another system and learn 
voiceover and the mac then get pro tools.  You don't have to get an audio 
interface at first if you don't want to if it will be to much to learn at 
once but I did for the moving faders as I use to have an analog 4 track 
tape recorder that also had faders so wanted this same type of setup.  If 
you just want to use the computer keyboard for learning how to do things 
first that is always an option and remember you can switch between them or 
use them both at the same time.  I have found sonar works fine on todays 
modern and some older desktops and laptops so always buying a special 
audio editing system I don't think is required if you are just learning. 
Perhaps give us some background on what you plan to use the system for and 
then we can help more.  Nick Gawronski


On 4/26/2012 11:13 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I will say one thing. At this point, I would have felt completely lost
in PT if I hadn't started as a Sonar user. I was able to use Sonar in a
couple sessions fairly easy. PT is a different beast.

- Original Message -
*From:* Pino Guarraci 
*To:* ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:41 AM
*Subject:* Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

Hello Chris,
I agree with you but do you think that Protools is even accessible
as Sonar?
Regards,
Pino
www.studiocrescendo.be 
www.proguide.eu 

- Original Message -
*From:* Christopher-Mark Gilland 
*To:* ptaccess@googlegroups.com 


*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

For one thing, do realize that on the Windows side of things,
ProTools is going to be almost useless.
If you get a mac, it works almost flawlessly. I would recommend
PT by far and away over Sonar! The effects are way better, the
sound is way better, and honestly, over all things I find at
least, are just way easier to do in PT in a whole. Plus, Sonar
is not industry standard, where as ProTools is.
Any good major recording studio is going to have most likely
one, if not more, ProTools systems that they can use.
So ultimately, I'd suggest PT, but that is me.
Chris.

- Original Message -
*From:* stuart young 
*To:* 'ptaccess@googlegroups.com'

*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:51 AM
*Subject:* Pro tools or Sonar?

Hi all.

I am going to be setting up a small recording studio with in
the next 6 months or so and I am currently doing some
research in to which digital audio work station to use. I
have decided to use either Pro tools, or Sonar, but I
thought that I would first ask on this list if anyone has
had experience in using either product, and what were there
thoughts on using each one.

Many thanks for your help on this, regards.

Stuart Young

Learning Support Unit

The West of England School and College

Countess Wear

Exeter

Devon

EX2 6H

Re: Native Instruments

[Poppa Bear]

Ok, thanks. I guess I am feeling kind of limetted in the way of plugins at 
this point. On the Sonar side, I have access to basicly anything to a 
certain degree without too much fussing and fighting.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Chesworth" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Native Instruments



To the best of my knowledge, nothing from Native Instruments is
accessible on the Mac side. Over time, I've heard of a few attempts to
raise it with NI, but never heard any positive noises after those
attempts.

Really annoying, because there's some awesome stuff out there that
requires Kontakt.

On 4/26/12, Poppa Bear  wrote:

Is there any particular version of Native Instruments that is more
accessible than another? I hope I can maybe get an answer for this.
Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, 
Mastering
and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com 

Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I think it really depends on what you plan to do with your audio 
editing.  I am using pro tools because I am in school and wanted to use 
the same program that all the other students in my classes were using. 
I could have chosen sonar as well as it is for my home setup currently 
and I am fine on the pc but did want to learn the mac and what my other 
options were for audio editing.  Do you know the mac and voiceover well 
enough to jump into pro tools or are you a pc user all of the way?  I do 
know that some studios do use sonar for some professional projects so if 
you want to go with sonar go for it.  I might buy a copy of sonar for my 
pc desktop and laptop so I can learn both as I have messed around with 
it some with window eyes and found it very usable.  There was no 
requirement for me to get pro tools or a mac but I did it to learn how 
they all worked.  If you have a pc and like what you are using and don't 
want to buy an entire new system then get sonar.  If you want to get 
another system and learn voiceover and the mac then get pro tools.  You 
don't have to get an audio interface at first if you don't want to if it 
will be to much to learn at once but I did for the moving faders as I 
use to have an analog 4 track tape recorder that also had faders so 
wanted this same type of setup.  If you just want to use the computer 
keyboard for learning how to do things first that is always an option 
and remember you can switch between them or use them both at the same 
time.  I have found sonar works fine on todays modern and some older 
desktops and laptops so always buying a special audio editing system I 
don't think is required if you are just learning.  Perhaps give us some 
background on what you plan to use the system for and then we can help 
more.  Nick Gawronski


On 4/26/2012 11:13 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I will say one thing. At this point, I would have felt completely lost
in PT if I hadn't started as a Sonar user. I was able to use Sonar in a
couple sessions fairly easy. PT is a different beast.

- Original Message -
*From:* Pino Guarraci 
*To:* ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:41 AM
*Subject:* Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

Hello Chris,
I agree with you but do you think that Protools is even accessible
as Sonar?
Regards,
Pino
www.studiocrescendo.be 
www.proguide.eu 

- Original Message -
*From:* Christopher-Mark Gilland 
*To:* ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: Pro tools or Sonar?

For one thing, do realize that on the Windows side of things,
ProTools is going to be almost useless.
If you get a mac, it works almost flawlessly. I would recommend
PT by far and away over Sonar! The effects are way better, the
sound is way better, and honestly, over all things I find at
least, are just way easier to do in PT in a whole. Plus, Sonar
is not industry standard, where as ProTools is.
Any good major recording studio is going to have most likely
one, if not more, ProTools systems that they can use.
So ultimately, I'd suggest PT, but that is me.
Chris.

- Original Message -
*From:* stuart young 
*To:* 'ptaccess@googlegroups.com'

*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:51 AM
*Subject:* Pro tools or Sonar?

Hi all.

I am going to be setting up a small recording studio with in
the next 6 months or so and I am currently doing some
research in to which digital audio work station to use. I
have decided to use either Pro tools, or Sonar, but I
thought that I would first ask on this list if anyone has
had experience in using either product, and what were there
thoughts on using each one.

Many thanks for your help on this, regards.

Stuart Young

Learning Support Unit

The West of England School and College

Countess Wear

Exeter

Devon

EX2 6HA

Tel: 01392 454223

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New AAX Plug-ins.

[studiojay]

Hi every one,
 Avid is converting more and more of their included plug-ins to
the new AAX format and leaving RTAS behind. Does this affect
accessibility of these plug-ins? For example, is this why the new
channel strip included in pro tools 10 is not accessible? Thanks for
any help.
Jason

Re: Native Instruments

[Scott Chesworth]

To the best of my knowledge, nothing from Native Instruments is
accessible on the Mac side. Over time, I've heard of a few attempts to
raise it with NI, but never heard any positive noises after those
attempts.

Really annoying, because there's some awesome stuff out there that
requires Kontakt.

On 4/26/12, Poppa Bear  wrote:
> Is there any particular version of Native Instruments that is more
> accessible than another? I hope I can maybe get an answer for this.
> Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering
> and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com

Re: Guitar fx plugins

[Scott Chesworth]

Pretty sure you meant to say PT instead of Sonar? Yeah, the PSA-1
should come free with PT these days. Seeing as I know you're a bit of
a metalhead, you should definitely find time to have a tinker with it.

On 4/26/12, The Oreo Monster  wrote:
> Is the SamsAmp PSA1 included with sonar  or is that an extra cost. I hear
> people like tht one alot and keep forgetting to look for it.
> - T.O.M
>
> On Apr 26, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Scott Chesworth 
> wrote:
>
>> There should be a free version of Eleven that came with PT, from
>> memory with 9 it was installed by default. Definitely worth a tinker,
>> sounded great to my ears when I last used it to re-amp some weak
>> guitar tracks. Also, it's not appropriate for every genre, but the
>> Sansamp PSA-1 plugin is great for distortions and crunches. No fx in
>> there, but it's worth investigating unless you never need to use a
>> software amp sim. Both of those expose their parameters tidily in the
>> plugins window, so no need for a control surface to get a decent
>> workflow going.
>>
>> Hth
>> Scott
>>
>> On 4/26/12, Poppa Bear  wrote:
>>> Thanks brother, I will look into some of the built in stuff. I have
>>> talked
>>> to Chuck and need to connect with him to get his presets for up to Waves
>>> 7.
>>> I have tons of plugins on the Sonar side and now that I am using PT I am
>>> in
>>> a barron land when it comes to having my normal tool kits. As for control
>>> serfases I use a Mackie onyx board, but may have to spring for at least a
>>> 002 or 003 to get a little more flexability. Pro Tools was at first a
>>> back
>>> up DAW that I was going to slowley learn to get my feet wet, but now I
>>> have
>>> some client prospects who need pro tool sessions.
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  From: The Oreo Monster
>>>  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>  Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:28 AM
>>>  Subject: Re: Guitar fx plugins
>>>
>>>
>>>  The waves stuff while not accessible, should be mappable and controlable
>>> from a control surface. Whether or not the guitar plug in suite falls
>>> into
>>> this category is unknown. Chuck on this list is a Big fan of  the waves
>>> stuff and probably the person to consult with. I honestly on guitars just
>>> been using alot of the modulation fx that comes with PT for free with
>>> great
>>> results. Also I am under the impression that PT may come with a free Demo
>>> of
>>> 11 or an LE version of it which is Avid's Guitar amp and fx modeler. If
>>> there isn't a demo or le version installed, you should be able to find a
>>> trial on avid's site to try as well.
>>>
>>>  - T.O.M
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Apr 26, 2012, at 3:23 AM, "Poppa Bear" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello guys, I am looking for an accessible guitar plugin bundle akend
>>> to
>>> the waves guitar bundles, but accessible with presets. Also, looking to
>>> set
>>> up accessible drum sample kitts in PT as well. I have a band coming in
>>> that
>>> would like to track their drums via a Roland midi electronic drum kit. I
>>> could use Sonar, but I would like to use PT if I can get a little
>>> direction
>>> from somebody on here.
>>>Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing,
>>> Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com
>>>
>>>
>
>

Re: protools conference call

[Poppa Bear]

Did this call take place, and will it be posted as a Mp3 download? Thanks
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Howerton" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:10 AM
Subject: protools conference call



Hello all,
Are we still having the protools conference call today?
Brian

Re: Problem with pitch

[Slau Halatyn]

No worries at all. I just wanted to make sure it didn't turn into a long thread 
on list. It is a fascinating subject, however.

Cheers,

Slau

On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> Slau,
> 
> There is actually another audio list that I'm on, and I thought I was sending 
> to that list, not the p t access list.
> 
> My apology.  I hate when my system does dumb things like that.
> 
> My apology.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Problem with pitch
> 
> 
> As this is off topic, I'd simply ask that any replies just go off list and 
> just copy all for those interested in the subject.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Apr 26, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> OK, for those of you out there with perfect pitch ability, you're probably 
>> gonna wanna smack me upside the face for asking this, but is there a way to 
>> ruin the ability of perfect pitch causing you only to have relative pitch? I 
>> ask this as I! have perfect pitch, and it is driving me bananas! The 
>> slightest off note, and I hear it!  It's so bad, my friend literally played 
>> me a note, then went only ten vibrations per second's difference, and it 
>> sounded so ear splitting to me I almost puked!  I hardly feel I can get any 
>> productive recording done, as the slightest off, I hear it and it sounds God 
>> aweful to me.  Is there a way actually to lose? this ability? How do you all 
>> with perfect pitch deal with this sort a thing!
>> 
>> Chris.
> 

Re: keyboard focus question again

[Slau Halatyn]

Yes, the keyboard shortcuts I mentioned in my original reply are the ones you 
can use to ensure you're in the right mode but, again, I'll point out that 
there's more than one way to achieve the same results (as in, using the Control 
modifier or decimal letter decimal on the numeric keypad).

HTH,

Slau

On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Brian Howerton wrote:

> Thank you Slau.  But am I right that command option 1 ensures that you are in 
> the qwerty keyboard focus mode and command option 3 puts you in the groups 
> focus keyboard mode.  If that's the case, I will just make sure I toggle 
> whatever keyboard focus mode I want to be working in with the keystroke :).
> BrianOn Apr 27, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> 
>> I don't know if there's a default, per se. It might be persistent between 
>> sessions and bootups. An interesting experiment would be to open different 
>> sessions, create new ones, etc. to determine how it actually works. Maybe 
>> you might try that and let us know what you find. You can tell which 
>> keyboard focus is active by examining the keyboard focus status in the 
>> various areas of either the Mix or Edit windows. I've never looked into this 
>> myself because a simple keystroke will ensure the proper mode but, if you 
>> want the question answered, I think you'll have to experiment for yourself. 
>> Let us know what you find.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Brian Howerton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I understand that keyboard focus is already turned on, but someone said in 
>>> a previous post that if you hit command option 1 it turs on the qwerty 
>>> commands, and if you hit ommand option 3, it selects the keyboard to do 
>>> something related to the groups, so my question is does protools default to 
>>> the keyboard focus mode being in the qwerty mode or do I have to make sure 
>>> it is there by hitting commond option 1 if I want to use the qwerty 
>>> keyboard to do things such as nudging or selecting to the beginning of a 
>>> region.  Thanks,
>>> Brian
>> 
> 

Re: Problem with pitch

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Slau,

There is actually another audio list that I'm on, and I thought I was 
sending to that list, not the p t access list.


My apology.  I hate when my system does dumb things like that.

My apology.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with pitch


As this is off topic, I'd simply ask that any replies just go off list and 
just copy all for those interested in the subject.


thanks,

Slau

On Apr 26, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, for those of you out there with perfect pitch ability, you're probably 
gonna wanna smack me upside the face for asking this, but is there a way 
to ruin the ability of perfect pitch causing you only to have relative 
pitch? I ask this as I! have perfect pitch, and it is driving me bananas! 
The slightest off note, and I hear it!  It's so bad, my friend literally 
played me a note, then went only ten vibrations per second's difference, 
and it sounded so ear splitting to me I almost puked!  I hardly feel I can 
get any productive recording done, as the slightest off, I hear it and it 
sounds God aweful to me.  Is there a way actually to lose? this ability? 
How do you all with perfect pitch deal with this sort a thing!


Chris.

Re: keyboard focus question again

[Brian Howerton]

Thank you Slau.  But am I right that command option 1 ensures that you are in 
the qwerty keyboard focus mode and command option 3 puts you in the groups 
focus keyboard mode.  If that's the case, I will just make sure I toggle 
whatever keyboard focus mode I want to be working in with the keystroke :).
BrianOn Apr 27, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

> I don't know if there's a default, per se. It might be persistent between 
> sessions and bootups. An interesting experiment would be to open different 
> sessions, create new ones, etc. to determine how it actually works. Maybe you 
> might try that and let us know what you find. You can tell which keyboard 
> focus is active by examining the keyboard focus status in the various areas 
> of either the Mix or Edit windows. I've never looked into this myself because 
> a simple keystroke will ensure the proper mode but, if you want the question 
> answered, I think you'll have to experiment for yourself. Let us know what 
> you find.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Brian Howerton wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I understand that keyboard focus is already turned on, but someone said in a 
>> previous post that if you hit command option 1 it turs on the qwerty 
>> commands, and if you hit ommand option 3, it selects the keyboard to do 
>> something related to the groups, so my question is does protools default to 
>> the keyboard focus mode being in the qwerty mode or do I have to make sure 
>> it is there by hitting commond option 1 if I want to use the qwerty keyboard 
>> to do things such as nudging or selecting to the beginning of a region.  
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
> 

Re: keyboard focus question again

[Slau Halatyn]

I don't know if there's a default, per se. It might be persistent between 
sessions and bootups. An interesting experiment would be to open different 
sessions, create new ones, etc. to determine how it actually works. Maybe you 
might try that and let us know what you find. You can tell which keyboard focus 
is active by examining the keyboard focus status in the various areas of either 
the Mix or Edit windows. I've never looked into this myself because a simple 
keystroke will ensure the proper mode but, if you want the question answered, I 
think you'll have to experiment for yourself. Let us know what you find.

cheers,

Slau

On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Brian Howerton wrote:

> Hello all,
> I understand that keyboard focus is already turned on, but someone said in a 
> previous post that if you hit command option 1 it turs on the qwerty 
> commands, and if you hit ommand option 3, it selects the keyboard to do 
> something related to the groups, so my question is does protools default to 
> the keyboard focus mode being in the qwerty mode or do I have to make sure it 
> is there by hitting commond option 1 if I want to use the qwerty keyboard to 
> do things such as nudging or selecting to the beginning of a region.  Thanks,
> Brian

keyboard focus question again

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
I understand that keyboard focus is already turned on, but someone said in a 
previous post that if you hit command option 1 it turs on the qwerty commands, 
and if you hit ommand option 3, it selects the keyboard to do something related 
to the groups, so my question is does protools default to the keyboard focus 
mode being in the qwerty mode or do I have to make sure it is there by hitting 
commond option 1 if I want to use the qwerty keyboard to do things such as 
nudging or selecting to the beginning of a region.  Thanks,
Brian

Re: keyboard focus keyboard commands

[Slau Halatyn]

It's not possible to disable any shortcuts in Pro Tools. If a command doesn't 
work, there's something else going on. An example where a shortcut like 
command-v wouldn't work would be when you're trying to paste something copied 
from a stereo track into a mono track or vice versa. The operation won't work, 
not because the shortcut isn't working but because the operation simply cannot 
be completed in this manner.

HTH,

Slau

On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Chris Norman wrote:

> Just out of interest, how does one disable all the shortcuts? I only
> ask, because some times, I do something, and then keys don't work,
> command + v for example, and I have to close my session, and reopen it
> to fix it, leading me to think it's something I'm doing without
> realising, rather than a problem with PT it's self.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> On 27/04/2012, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> Keyboard focus refers to the focus for single letter shortcuts but it
>> pertains to whether the letter a, for example, will enable the edit or mix
>> group assigned to the letter a or trim a region boundary from insertion to
>> start of region, which is a shortcut when the commands focus is engaged.
>> Pressing Command-Option-1 will focus on qwerty commands while
>> Command-Option-3 will focus on the groups list. There are ways to override
>> this like by pressing Control plus the associated qwerty command when
>> commands focus is not enabled or using decimal letter decimal on the numeric
>> keypad when groups focus is not engaged.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:30 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually if I am not mistaken, those are just standard keyboard commands.
>>> Turning on keyboard focus allows you to do things with a single key that
>>> you would normally have to press a couple keys to do. For example, paste
>>> would be just "V" instead of "CMD+V" and so on. Btw, that was just an
>>> example, don't quote me on that being one of the keyboard focus shortcuts.
>>> - T.O.M
>>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Brian,
 
 Keyboard focus is on by default.
 
 Basically that just lets you use the commands you already know, like
 command+equals for your mix/edit window, return for the beginning of the
 session, option+return for the end, F12/command+Space to record, space to
 play/stop, things like that.  It's nothing that enhances things anymore
 than they already are.  If you turned that off, none of those keyboard
 shortcuts would work.
 
 I understand that the keyboard shutcut guide may be a lot and very
 daunting, and please don't take this rudely, but frankly, it really is
 your best resource, and as you read through it, you'll begin to find it
 is a lot, yes, but it's very very logical.  Once you get the feel for
 things, you'll begin to see a definite pattern.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:16 PM
 Subject: keyboard focus keyboard commands
 
 
 Hello all,
 I saw a youtube demo of these and they looklike they will make my life
 easier :). Can someone send me a list of these commands so I can start
 getting to know them and using them?  I am having a hard time finding
 these in the documentation and they look like they would be helpful from
 the video I saw on keyboard focus mode.  Thanks,
 Brian=
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Take care,
> 
> Chris Norman.
> 
> 

Re: keyboard focus keyboard commands

[Chris Norman]

Just out of interest, how does one disable all the shortcuts? I only
ask, because some times, I do something, and then keys don't work,
command + v for example, and I have to close my session, and reopen it
to fix it, leading me to think it's something I'm doing without
realising, rather than a problem with PT it's self.

Cheers,

On 27/04/2012, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Keyboard focus refers to the focus for single letter shortcuts but it
> pertains to whether the letter a, for example, will enable the edit or mix
> group assigned to the letter a or trim a region boundary from insertion to
> start of region, which is a shortcut when the commands focus is engaged.
> Pressing Command-Option-1 will focus on qwerty commands while
> Command-Option-3 will focus on the groups list. There are ways to override
> this like by pressing Control plus the associated qwerty command when
> commands focus is not enabled or using decimal letter decimal on the numeric
> keypad when groups focus is not engaged.
>
> HTH,
>
> Slau
>
> On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:30 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote:
>
>> Actually if I am not mistaken, those are just standard keyboard commands.
>> Turning on keyboard focus allows you to do things with a single key that
>> you would normally have to press a couple keys to do. For example, paste
>> would be just "V" instead of "CMD+V" and so on. Btw, that was just an
>> example, don't quote me on that being one of the keyboard focus shortcuts.
>> - T.O.M
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> Keyboard focus is on by default.
>>>
>>> Basically that just lets you use the commands you already know, like
>>> command+equals for your mix/edit window, return for the beginning of the
>>> session, option+return for the end, F12/command+Space to record, space to
>>> play/stop, things like that.  It's nothing that enhances things anymore
>>> than they already are.  If you turned that off, none of those keyboard
>>> shortcuts would work.
>>>
>>> I understand that the keyboard shutcut guide may be a lot and very
>>> daunting, and please don't take this rudely, but frankly, it really is
>>> your best resource, and as you read through it, you'll begin to find it
>>> is a lot, yes, but it's very very logical.  Once you get the feel for
>>> things, you'll begin to see a definite pattern.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:16 PM
>>> Subject: keyboard focus keyboard commands
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I saw a youtube demo of these and they looklike they will make my life
>>> easier :). Can someone send me a list of these commands so I can start
>>> getting to know them and using them?  I am having a hard time finding
>>> these in the documentation and they look like they would be helpful from
>>> the video I saw on keyboard focus mode.  Thanks,
>>> Brian=
>>
>
>


-- 
Take care,

Chris Norman.