Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update

2013-03-15 Thread Scott Chesworth 
Nick, having banged my head repeatedly on Apple's door over one thing
or another for a decade or more, all I can say is I wish you luck and
limitless energy. You'll need both.

Tbh, the fact that the situation was acknowledged at all beyond canned
responses gives me more hope that a fix will happen at some point than
hours and hours of advocacy would.

Is that the way the world should work? No. Is it the way Apple's world
does work? Yep.

On 3/15/13, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
> Hi, Exactly why we need to take a more active standing on fixing these
> issues for example getting both Apple and Avid members on this list as
> even if they don't respond at least they could be reading these messages
> and getting to the developers suggestions on ways to improove
> accessibility.  There are already some macs that won't run 10.6 that will
> run 10.7 and 10.8 just fine and if we are not active in this we will find
> lots of newer ones if they don't exist already that can't be downgraded.
> I suggest we call Apple and demonstrate these issues and explain to them
> that there are people like me in school who don't have the power to
> downgrade a school system for accessibility reasons.  If Apple cares about
> the educational market like they say they do they should really get on
> this issue and I find that talking to someone on the phone and showing
> them these issues where they can hear them is a great way of getting the
> points across.  I would suggest you try out pro tools on your new system
> as you should be able to at least make recordings and do some tasks as I
> have been doing on mountain lion to test out things.  What type of work
> will you be doing and this way we can help you out more?  Nick Gawronski
> On Fri, March 15, 2013 10:25 am, Peter Bosher wrote:
>> Hi All, When I get my new Mac - thanks to all for advice on that - it
>> will
>>  come with Mountain Lion.  If I put the latest version of ProTools on
>> it,
>> will there be enough accessibility to start learning PT, or would  it be
>> better to downgrade to Lion, if that's even possible? Best, Peter At
>> 13:57
>> 14/03/2013, you wrote: >FYI: >Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11
>> and is available for  >download from the Avid website. I haven't played
>> around with it  >much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in
>> Mountain Lion  >enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable
>> and the  >pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell,
>> the  >functionality in Lion remains the same. >You received this message
>> because you are subscribed to the Google  >Groups "Pro Tools
>> Accessibility" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
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>> *** Peter Bosher, Email: pe...@soundlinks.com
>> http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0)
>> 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham,
>> Bucks. HP5 1AL England.
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Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update

2013-03-15 Thread Nick Gawronski 
Hi, Exactly why we need to take a more active standing on fixing these
issues for example getting both Apple and Avid members on this list as
even if they don't respond at least they could be reading these messages
and getting to the developers suggestions on ways to improove
accessibility.  There are already some macs that won't run 10.6 that will
run 10.7 and 10.8 just fine and if we are not active in this we will find
lots of newer ones if they don't exist already that can't be downgraded. 
I suggest we call Apple and demonstrate these issues and explain to them
that there are people like me in school who don't have the power to
downgrade a school system for accessibility reasons.  If Apple cares about
the educational market like they say they do they should really get on
this issue and I find that talking to someone on the phone and showing
them these issues where they can hear them is a great way of getting the
points across.  I would suggest you try out pro tools on your new system
as you should be able to at least make recordings and do some tasks as I
have been doing on mountain lion to test out things.  What type of work
will you be doing and this way we can help you out more?  Nick Gawronski
On Fri, March 15, 2013 10:25 am, Peter Bosher wrote:
> Hi All, When I get my new Mac - thanks to all for advice on that - it will
>  come with Mountain Lion.  If I put the latest version of ProTools on  it,
> will there be enough accessibility to start learning PT, or would  it be
> better to downgrade to Lion, if that's even possible? Best, Peter At 13:57
> 14/03/2013, you wrote: >FYI: >Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11
> and is available for  >download from the Avid website. I haven't played
> around with it  >much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in
> Mountain Lion  >enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable
> and the  >pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell,
> the  >functionality in Lion remains the same. >You received this message
> because you are subscribed to the Google  >Groups "Pro Tools
> Accessibility" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
> emails from it,  >send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >For more options, visit
> >https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
> *** Peter Bosher, Email: pe...@soundlinks.com
> http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0)
> 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham,
> Bucks. HP5 1AL England.
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Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update

2013-03-15 Thread Scott Chesworth 
Hey Peter,

You'll need to downgrade to Lion. The bug that's affecting PT in
Mountain Lion has been reported to and acknowledged by Apple though,
so hopefully you won't have to stay there indefinitely.

One problem you might have is that the Macs that are shipping now were
manufactured post Lion, so there's a chance you might run into
hardware not being supported. Dunno, someone else will have to chime
in on that.

Scott

On 3/15/13, Peter Bosher  wrote:
> Hi All, When I get my new Mac - thanks to all for advice on that - it will
> come with Mountain Lion.  If I put the latest version of ProTools on  it,
> will there be enough accessibility to start learning PT, or would  it be
> better to downgrade to Lion, if that's even possible? Best, Peter At 13:57
> 14/03/2013, you wrote: >FYI: >Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and
> is available for  >download from the Avid website. I haven't played around
> with it  >much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion
>>enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the  >pop-up
> buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the  >functionality
> in Lion remains the same. >You received this message because you are
> subscribed to the Google  >Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >To
> unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,  >send an
> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit
>>https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
> *** Peter Bosher, Email: pe...@soundlinks.com http://www.soundlinks.com/
> Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks
> Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, Bucks. HP5 1AL England.
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Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update

2013-03-15 Thread Peter Bosher 
Hi All, When I get my new Mac - thanks to all for advice on that - it will  come with Mountain Lion.  If I put the latest version of ProTools on  it, will there be enough accessibility to start learning PT, or would  it be better to downgrade to Lion, if that's even possible? Best, Peter At 13:57 14/03/2013, you wrote: >FYI: >Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and is available for  >download from the Avid website. I haven't played around with it  >much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion  >enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the  >pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the  >functionality in Lion remains the same. >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google  >Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,  >send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit  >https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. *** Peter Bosher, Email: pe...@soundlinks.com http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, Bucks. HP5 1AL England. 


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