Re: Questions about Clips

2013-10-30 Thread James Lee

HI Slau,

Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few 
more questions.
You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste 
it into the desired spot on the track you're working on.

Question: How do you import a clip to a new track?

You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you 
can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the 
selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move 
to the master playlist and paste.
Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, 
but I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, 
choose a different playlist, and then play.
Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press 
option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I 
could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut 
instead of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to 
paste to, and then paste.


You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing 
providing I'm moving by bars and beats.
Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip 
at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to 
move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select 
and nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, 
wouldn't it move it to 4.4.270?

Thank you again.

On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi James,

I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now.


1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list?

Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the clip 
in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name and perform 
a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the Option key. 
VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this type so it has to 
be done with the mouse or track pad.


2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars recorded, 
but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip.

This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a track. 
For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. It used to 
be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN screen reader. 
You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't guarantee success. If 
you hide all tracks except for the track to which you'd like to drag the clip 
and set its display to jumbo or extreme, you can route the mouse pointer to the 
clip, click and drag the clip to the center of the track pad and let go. You'll 
need to pay attention to whether you have any regions in the track already 
because you may inadvertently drop a clip right on top of another. If you 
include a modifier before the mouse down, you can get different results like 
snapping to the insertion point or activating the spot dialog where you can 
specify the location where the clip should go.

The alternative is to import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and 
paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on.

I should also point out that, if you're dealing with clips from various takes, it's best to create playlists 
for each take so that each take is easily accessible. Using the name of the track as the basic playlist works 
best. For example, create a track named Vocal and duplicate it. The resulting track name, and 
therefore playlist, becomes Vocal01. As you record onto this track, the filenames will start with 
Vocal.01-01, Vocal.01-02, Vocal.01_03, etc. This is all vocal take one. When you're ready for take two, 
create a new playlist and the track name will automatically be Vocal.02 and the filenames will all be .02_01, 
.02_02, .02_03, etc. In the end, copy the best take into the original playlist named Vocal and 
then use bits of whichever take is best for any given line, phrase, word, etc. If you make a selection in the 
master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the 
selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste.


3. Also, is there a shortcut to nudge a selected clip to a closest grid without 
cutting and pasting?

I never use Grid mode so I can't comment. I do use nudge mode to essentially 
accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats.


4. Let's say I have clip A on bar 1 and clip B on bar 2, and both are 1 bar 
long. I accidentally nudged Clip A to bar 2, so they overlap exactly on the 
same spot. Then how can I choose clip A or clip B?

If the two clips are exactly the same length and you've nudged one on top of 
another, it's not possible to select the one beneath, at least as far as I can 
tell. Now, that may be different in version 11 and I don't know off the top of 
my head. I won't be able to check that for another day or so.

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Re: Questions about Clips

2013-10-30 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi James,

1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate to 
the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted 
whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track radio 
button.

2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or playlists). 
The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is created when a 
track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to be done, it's 
simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v shortcut but, first, 
you'll have to pass through the shortcut because VoiceOver uses it for 
adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to the master, you can't 
hear it in context, that is, with the audio that precedes or follows it. I 
suppose one can just listen to those transitions later and fix them as needed. 
My personal preference is to actually navigate to the master playlist and 
audition the beginnings and endings on the spot.

3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with 
either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the 
grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember somebody 
trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how 
easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be.

Cheers,

slau


On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI Slau,
 
 Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few more 
 questions.
 You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it 
 into the desired spot on the track you're working on.
 Question: How do you import a clip to a new track?
 
 You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can 
 audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected 
 area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master 
 playlist and paste.
 Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but I'm 
 not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose a 
 different playlist, and then play.
 Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press 
 option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I could 
 save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead of click 
 playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and then paste.
 
 You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing 
 providing I'm moving by bars and beats.
 Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a 
 start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that 
 phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that 
 clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 
 4.4.270?
 Thank you again.
 
 On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi James,
 
 I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now.
 
 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list?
 Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the 
 clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name and 
 perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the Option 
 key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this type so it 
 has to be done with the mouse or track pad.
 
 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars 
 recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip.
 This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a 
 track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. 
 It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN 
 screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't 
 guarantee success. If you hide all tracks except for the track to which 
 you'd like to drag the clip and set its display to jumbo or extreme, you can 
 route the mouse pointer to the clip, click and drag the clip to the center 
 of the track pad and let go. You'll need to pay attention to whether you 
 have any regions in the track already because you may inadvertently drop a 
 clip right on top of another. If you include a modifier before the mouse 
 down, you can get different results like snapping to the insertion point or 
 activating the spot dialog where you can specify the location where the clip 
 should go.
 
 The alternative is to import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip 
 and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on.
 
 I should also point out that, if you're dealing with clips from various 
 takes, it's best to create playlists for each take so that each take is 
 easily accessible. Using the name of the track as the basic playlist works 
 best. For example, create a track named Vocal and duplicate it. The 
 resulting track name, and 

Re: Questions about Clips

2013-10-30 Thread Poppa Bear

Slau, Why don't you use grid mode, and what mode do you use and why?
Thanks
- Original Message - 
From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Questions about Clips


Hi James,

1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate 
to the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted 
whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track 
radio button.


2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or 
playlists). The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is 
created when a track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to 
be done, it's simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v 
shortcut but, first, you'll have to pass through the shortcut because 
VoiceOver uses it for adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to 
the master, you can't hear it in context, that is, with the audio that 
precedes or follows it. I suppose one can just listen to those transitions 
later and fix them as needed. My personal preference is to actually navigate 
to the master playlist and audition the beginnings and endings on the spot.


3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with 
either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the 
grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember 
somebody trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how 
easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be.


Cheers,

slau


On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote:


HI Slau,

Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few 
more questions.
You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste 
it into the desired spot on the track you're working on.

Question: How do you import a clip to a new track?

You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can 
audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected 
area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the 
master playlist and paste.
Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but 
I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, 
choose a different playlist, and then play.
Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press 
option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I 
could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead 
of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and 
then paste.


You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing 
providing I'm moving by bars and beats.
Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at 
a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move 
that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and 
nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it 
move it to 4.4.270?

Thank you again.

On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi James,

I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now.


1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list?
Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the 
clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name 
and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the 
Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this 
type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad.


2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars 
recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded 
clip.
This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a 
track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver 
user. It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old 
outSPOKEN screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but 
I can't guarantee success. If you hide all tracks except for the track to 
which you'd like to drag the clip and set its display to jumbo or 
extreme, you can route the mouse pointer to the clip, click and drag the 
clip to the center of the track pad and let go. You'll need to pay 
attention to whether you have any regions in the track already because 
you may inadvertently drop a clip right on top of another. If you include 
a modifier before the mouse down, you can get different results like 
snapping to the insertion point or activating the spot dialog where you 
can specify the location where the clip should go.


The alternative is to import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip 
and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on.


I should also point out that, if you're dealing with clips from various 
takes, it's best to create playlists for 

Re: Questions about Clips

2013-10-30 Thread Slau Halatyn
The straight-forward answer is that I'm not a grid kind of guy. The music I 
record doesn't lend itself to landing on precisely 0 ticks. I don't do 
electronic music. I do mostly live musicians playing real instruments and any 
editing I do is based on natural phrases. Sometimes I do need to nudge 
something a little forward or back but then it's just a matter of milliseconds, 
sometimes 10, sometimes 100, whatever is required.

I flip between Shuffle mode and Slip mode. Most of the time, I use slip mode if 
I'm editing multitrack sessions for individual performances. Otherwise, I use 
Shuffle when I'm editing between multitrack takes of live performances like 
jazz ensembles, orchestra, etc.

Slau

On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Slau, Why don't you use grid mode, and what mode do you use and why?
 Thanks
 - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Questions about Clips
 
 
 Hi James,
 
 1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate 
 to the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted 
 whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track 
 radio button.
 
 2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or playlists). 
 The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is created when a 
 track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to be done, it's 
 simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v shortcut but, first, 
 you'll have to pass through the shortcut because VoiceOver uses it for 
 adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to the master, you can't 
 hear it in context, that is, with the audio that precedes or follows it. I 
 suppose one can just listen to those transitions later and fix them as 
 needed. My personal preference is to actually navigate to the master playlist 
 and audition the beginnings and endings on the spot.
 
 3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with 
 either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the 
 grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember somebody 
 trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how 
 easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be.
 
 Cheers,
 
 slau
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Slau,
 
 Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few 
 more questions.
 You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it 
 into the desired spot on the track you're working on.
 Question: How do you import a clip to a new track?
 
 You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can 
 audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected 
 area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master 
 playlist and paste.
 Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but 
 I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose 
 a different playlist, and then play.
 Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press 
 option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I 
 could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead 
 of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and 
 then paste.
 
 You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing 
 providing I'm moving by bars and beats.
 Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a 
 start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that 
 phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that 
 clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 
 4.4.270?
 Thank you again.
 
 On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi James,
 
 I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now.
 
 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list?
 Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the 
 clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name 
 and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the 
 Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this 
 type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad.
 
 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars 
 recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip.
 This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a 
 track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. 
 It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN 
 screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't 
 guarantee success. If 

Re: Questions about Clips

2013-10-30 Thread Slau Halatyn
The straight-forward answer is that I'm not a grid kind of guy. The music I 
record doesn't lend itself to landing on precisely 0 ticks. I don't do 
electronic music. I do mostly live musicians playing real instruments and any 
editing I do is based on natural phrases. Sometimes I do need to nudge 
something a little forward or back but then it's just a matter of milliseconds, 
sometimes 10, sometimes 100, whatever is required.

I flip between Shuffle mode and Slip mode. Most of the time, I use slip mode if 
I'm editing multitrack sessions for individual performances. Otherwise, I use 
Shuffle when I'm editing between multitrack takes of live performances like 
jazz ensembles, orchestra, etc.

Slau

On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Slau, Why don't you use grid mode, and what mode do you use and why?
 Thanks
 - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Questions about Clips
 
 
 Hi James,
 
 1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate 
 to the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted 
 whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track 
 radio button.
 
 2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or playlists). 
 The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is created when a 
 track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to be done, it's 
 simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v shortcut but, first, 
 you'll have to pass through the shortcut because VoiceOver uses it for 
 adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to the master, you can't 
 hear it in context, that is, with the audio that precedes or follows it. I 
 suppose one can just listen to those transitions later and fix them as 
 needed. My personal preference is to actually navigate to the master playlist 
 and audition the beginnings and endings on the spot.
 
 3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with 
 either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the 
 grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember somebody 
 trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how 
 easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be.
 
 Cheers,
 
 slau
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Slau,
 
 Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few 
 more questions.
 You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it 
 into the desired spot on the track you're working on.
 Question: How do you import a clip to a new track?
 
 You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can 
 audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected 
 area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master 
 playlist and paste.
 Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but 
 I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose 
 a different playlist, and then play.
 Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press 
 option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I 
 could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead 
 of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and 
 then paste.
 
 You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing 
 providing I'm moving by bars and beats.
 Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a 
 start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that 
 phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that 
 clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 
 4.4.270?
 Thank you again.
 
 On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Hi James,
 
 I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now.
 
 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list?
 Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the 
 clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name 
 and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the 
 Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this 
 type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad.
 
 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars 
 recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip.
 This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a 
 track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. 
 It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN 
 screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't 
 guarantee success. If 

Re: Pasting and overlapping audio

2013-10-30 Thread Poppa Bear
Wow, that's some good information. I appreciate you taking the time to explain 
all of it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Pasting and overlapping audio


  You need to create an unlinked crossfade and set the parameters in such a way 
that the fade out and fade in are instantaneous.


  Select the range from a few ticks before the second region begins to how ever 
many ticks into the second region you'd like the first region to last. Press 
Command-f to open the fades dialog. Press the None button to unlink the two 
fades. I think the shortcut for that is Shift-down arrow a couple of times. To 
set the fade out to be at it's maximum power until the very end, press 
Control-right arrow several times, like 7 times just to be on the safe side 
although probably only 3 will do. I'll explain later.


  To make the fade in instantaneous, press Option-left arrow several times. 
Press Enter and audition the result with Command-Option-left or right arrow, 
providing you have a value greater than 0 in your pre and post roll fields.


  A word about fade in and out shapes. The control-left and right arrows cycles 
through fade out shapes. Think of it as left to right and it doesn't cycle 
through.
  Here are the fade shapes:
  1. Instant attack, no decay, sound just cuts out right at the beginning of 
the selection.
  2. Very fast attack, slow decay. Sound Fades very quickly at first and slowly 
fades toward the end.
  3. Fast attack, gentle decay.
  4. Equal Gain. Steady fade.
  5. Slow attack, fast decay. Initial fade is gradual and speeds up toward the 
end.
  6. Slower attack, very fast decay. Fade starts out very gradually and speeds 
up toward the very end.
  7. No attack, instant silence at the end of selection.


  The shapes for Fade-ins are exactly the same only reversed so that, for 
example, in shape #2, the initial fade-in is extremely quick and slopes gently 
up as it approaches the selection end. Fade #6, on the other hand, has a very 
slow initial entrance and a very fast slope up in volume as it reaches the end 
of the selected fade range.


  The subject of crossfades is quite complex and there are a lot of things to 
consider. I'm giving you the sort of reader's digest version but I hope it 
helps.


  Slau


  On Oct 29, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:


Ok, I have a four bar hook that I want to paste to make 8 bars all 
together. The 4 bar section goes a few ticks into bar 5. When I paste the 
section it pastes over the last few ticks and cutts it off. Is there a setting 
to be able to have the pasted section overlap over the end of the origenal 
section? I know I can duplacate all the tracks and do it that way, but it seems 
kind of rediculus to have to duplacate 6 more tracks when I would think a fade 
setting would be available.
Thanks for any thoughts


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Re: Pasting and overlapping audio

2013-10-30 Thread Slau Halatyn
No problem. I don't always have the time to get into detail much less even 
respond to certain questions but happy to do it whenever I can.

Cheers,

Slau

On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, that's some good information. I appreciate you taking the time to 
 explain all of it.
 - Original Message -
 From: Slau Halatyn
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Pasting and overlapping audio
 
 You need to create an unlinked crossfade and set the parameters in such a way 
 that the fade out and fade in are instantaneous.
 
 Select the range from a few ticks before the second region begins to how ever 
 many ticks into the second region you'd like the first region to last. Press 
 Command-f to open the fades dialog. Press the None button to unlink the two 
 fades. I think the shortcut for that is Shift-down arrow a couple of times. 
 To set the fade out to be at it's maximum power until the very end, press 
 Control-right arrow several times, like 7 times just to be on the safe side 
 although probably only 3 will do. I'll explain later.
 
 To make the fade in instantaneous, press Option-left arrow several times. 
 Press Enter and audition the result with Command-Option-left or right arrow, 
 providing you have a value greater than 0 in your pre and post roll fields.
 
 A word about fade in and out shapes. The control-left and right arrows cycles 
 through fade out shapes. Think of it as left to right and it doesn't cycle 
 through.
 Here are the fade shapes:
 1. Instant attack, no decay, sound just cuts out right at the beginning of 
 the selection.
 2. Very fast attack, slow decay. Sound Fades very quickly at first and slowly 
 fades toward the end.
 3. Fast attack, gentle decay.
 4. Equal Gain. Steady fade.
 5. Slow attack, fast decay. Initial fade is gradual and speeds up toward the 
 end.
 6. Slower attack, very fast decay. Fade starts out very gradually and speeds 
 up toward the very end.
 7. No attack, instant silence at the end of selection.
 
 The shapes for Fade-ins are exactly the same only reversed so that, for 
 example, in shape #2, the initial fade-in is extremely quick and slopes 
 gently up as it approaches the selection end. Fade #6, on the other hand, has 
 a very slow initial entrance and a very fast slope up in volume as it reaches 
 the end of the selected fade range.
 
 The subject of crossfades is quite complex and there are a lot of things to 
 consider. I'm giving you the sort of reader's digest version but I hope it 
 helps.
 
 Slau
 
 On Oct 29, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I have a four bar hook that I want to paste to make 8 bars all together. 
 The 4 bar section goes a few ticks into bar 5. When I paste the section it 
 pastes over the last few ticks and cutts it off. Is there a setting to be 
 able to have the pasted section overlap over the end of the origenal 
 section? I know I can duplacate all the tracks and do it that way, but it 
 seems kind of rediculus to have to duplacate 6 more tracks when I would 
 think a fade setting would be available.
 Thanks for any thoughts
 
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