Clips to timeline in Sierra
Hi All, Since running Sierra, I'm no longer able to get clips from the clips list onto the timeline, using the methods in Slau's tutorial. Having selected one or more clips, when I do a mouse-down, VO speaks 'Now in mix ...". and focus has indeed jumped to the mix window. On rare occasions when it has said 'mouse down on edit', when I then go to the tracklist table and do a mouse-up, it says 'mouse up on Apple', and there is no new track. This is a total show-stopper for me as I constantly have to import files. Firstly, can anyone suggest what I might try, and secondly, is there any chance that FloTools might address this long-standing difficulty. I'm so tempted right now to go back to Sonar for certain tasks where this was a cinch ... but seriously, there has to be a reliable way to get files in. Even when I used to import them as new tracks, I found that they couldn't be edited normally if they weren't in the clips list, so what to do? Best, Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Clips to timeline in Sierra
Hi Peter! Did you check the mouse tracking setting in the VO utility? Maybe it's off by default in Sierra. Just try VO+Command+F5 before executing any mouse clicks etc. Good luck! / Martin > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] > On Behalf Of Peter Bosher > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:44 AM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Clips to timeline in Sierra > > Hi All, > > > Since running Sierra, I'm no longer able to get clips from the clips > list onto the timeline, using the methods in Slau's tutorial. > > > Having selected one or more clips, when I do a mouse-down, VO speaks > 'Now in mix ...". and focus has indeed jumped to the mix window. On > rare occasions when it has said 'mouse down on edit', when I then go to > the tracklist table and do a mouse-up, it says 'mouse up on Apple', and > there is no new track. > > > This is a total show-stopper for me as I constantly have to import > files. Firstly, can anyone suggest what I might try, and secondly, is > there any chance that FloTools might address this long-standing > difficulty. I'm so tempted right now to go back to Sonar for certain > tasks where this was a cinch ... but seriously, there has to be a > reliable way to get files in. Even when I used to import them as new > tracks, I found that they couldn't be edited normally if they weren't in > the clips list, so what to do? > > > Best, > > > Peter > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clips to timeline in Sierra
Hi Peter, The first thing I'd look at is whether the clip you're selecting isn't beyond the bottom of the visible scroll area of the Clips List. The list will display roughly 80 items before you need to scroll down and, as we all know, VoiceOver is capable of reading things beyond the visible boundary. That's the first thing. Second, what's most likely happening if the prior scenario isn't the case, is that the Clips List is too narrow. Its default width is 86 points. when the mouse pointer follows the VoiceOver cursor, it becomes centered within the VoiceOver cursor and, when the table is too narrow, the mouse pointer actually ends up being outside the table, just to the right. Sometimes you'll hear VoiceOver say it's clicking on the desktop or Dock upon issuing a click. Now, let me say that the upcoming release of Flo Tools does address this issue and makes it very easy to drag clips from the Clips List to a track. We're just dotting the Ies and crossing the tees and it should be up any day. In the mean time, you can read through the text file in the PT Access Drop Box about how to resize the Track List and Clips List. You'll need Flo Tools to do things like move the mouse pointer to a specific coordinate and move the pointer while dragging. You'll have to follow the steps precisely but you'll be able to resize the Clips List within a session and that should help you drag clips the old-fashioned way according to that demo I did a while ago. This whole process of resizing the Track List and Clips List is simplified in the upcoming Flo Tools release as well. Finally, I have to say, when you import a file into a new track, the clip does, in fact, end up in your Clips List and there should be no issues editing it. As long as your track view is set to Waveform, you should be able to edit the clip, providing things like Link Edit and timeline and Edit Selection Follows Track selection are checked, etc. Hopefully this will help until Flo Tools 2.2 is out. Cheers, Slau > On Jun 13, 2017, at 5:44 AM, Peter Bosher wrote: > > Hi All, > > > Since running Sierra, I'm no longer able to get clips from the clips list > onto the timeline, using the methods in Slau's tutorial. > > > Having selected one or more clips, when I do a mouse-down, VO speaks 'Now in > mix ...". and focus has indeed jumped to the mix window. On rare occasions > when it has said 'mouse down on edit', when I then go to the tracklist table > and do a mouse-up, it says 'mouse up on Apple', and there is no new track. > > > This is a total show-stopper for me as I constantly have to import files. > Firstly, can anyone suggest what I might try, and secondly, is there any > chance that FloTools might address this long-standing difficulty. I'm so > tempted right now to go back to Sonar for certain tasks where this was a > cinch ... but seriously, there has to be a reliable way to get files in. > Even when I used to import them as new tracks, I found that they couldn't be > edited normally if they weren't in the clips list, so what to do? > > > Best, > > > Peter > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Any new Avid control surfaces coming?
Hi, Does anybody know of any upcoming new Avid control surfaces? Any rumours circulating? A local dealer was convinced there would come out new products similar to the Artist lineup, but this didn’t happen. The c/24 is great, but way overkill for my needs and the Pro Tools Dock I would only buy for the jog wheel, since the Artist Transport isn’t available anymore and I was too late to buy it. I have tried the Pro Tools Control app, but is too confusing for me, so has no extra value in that respect. thanks, Ronald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Correction: Midi event list
I really appreciate the assistance. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 12, 2017, at 8:07 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart wrote: > > Hi Andre and others! > > I mixed up the right order to consolidate a midi track... > Sorry for that. > Here is my correction. > > To consolidate: > Set the track view to clips. > Select the desired track from start to end. > Consolidate clips by pressing shift+option+3. > Set the track view back to notes. > > Best! / Martin > -Original Message- > From: Martin (Punky) Sopart [mailto:m...@cakewalker.de] > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 10:26 AM > To: 'ptaccess@googlegroups.com' > Subject: RE: Midi event list > > Hi Andre! > > In addition to Slau's helpful explanations. > > When working with midi in the counter display cluster, everything is fine > until you start editing the midi track like copying / pasting etc. > After that edits you have to consolidate the track again to make Shure that > the tab key will bring you to the next midi event the whole track through. > Same for ottion+tab for the prior midi event. > > After every edit of the midi track a new clip is created and the midi event > navigation in the counter display cluster only works for the current clip. > Consolidating the whole track again will make one large clip out of all clips. > > To consolidate: > Set the track view to notes. > Select the desired track from start to end. > Consolidate by pressing shift+option+3. > Set the track view back to clips. > > Good success! / Martin >> -Original Message- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:27 PM >> To: PTAccess List >> Subject: Re: Midi event list >> >> Hi Andre, >> Although it's technically accessible in the sense that VoiceOver sees the >> elements within each column, it's just a little tricky to work with and I'll >> explain a few things you can do to get around it. Before I do, I must say, >> the >> upcoming Flo Tools will make all of this a moot point but it doesn't hurt to >> have a backup plan when you're working on a system that doesn't have Flo >> Tools. >> >> First, VoiceOver can read down an area beyond what is displayed visually on >> screen. This is both good and bad. If you navigate the event list with >> VoiceOver only, you can certainly select notes (even discontiguously) and do >> things like delete or edit using event operations. However, if you want to do >> things like double-click to type a new value directly, you have to make sure >> the selected event is visible in the window. Pressing Command+h will bring >> the selection into view. For VoiceOver to see it correctly, though, you'll >> need >> to stop interacting with the table and then re-interact. Then performing a >> double-click will work as expected. >> >> Rather than doing that, however, it's possible to edit without clicking, per >> se. >> When an event is selected, pressing Command+Enter (on the numeric key >> pad) will put the event into an edit field which will always start with the >> first >> column. Pressing right arrow will advance the edit field to the next column. >> Be aware that the second column will either be beats or seconds, depending >> on the main counter format. Having pressed the right arrow 3 times, you'd be >> on the note field. Type a value and press either enter or return. With this >> method, you don't have to worry about what's in focus in the Event List >> window. >> >> Alternatively, you can also focus on the counter display cluster in the Edit >> window and, as you use the Tab key to advance to each note, the note name >> along with a few other controls will be displayed and you can double-click to >> edit those values. There's a caveat in that you have to make sure you're >> tabbing through a contiguous clip but in Notes view in the track view >> options. >> >> Again, this will all be a lot simpler when Flo Tools 2.2 is out. It'll be >> just a few >> more days. >> >> HTH, >> Slau >> >>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:39 AM, Andre Woods >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhonehello to all, >>> >>> Is the midi event list accessible with voice over on protools? If so, how do >> you change the note value on it? >>> Best regards, >>> Andre Woods >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go