Re: Unable to reinstall Flow Tools

[Chris Gilland]

Yikes!

Thank God I didn't do what Goerge did and uninstall it then, as I too noticed 
the first time, PT didn't seem to be navigatable with Voiceover. I think 
though, Slau, it was just that odd bug where sometimes it says no windows, and 
until you restart Voiceover, you can't regain control of the application.

I wonder what on earth's making it do that by the way.

Anyway, thanks for letting us know about FloTools. Is there a way we could 
manually back up the macros included and then just manually import them without 
the actual installer, or is that kind of more a pain in the arse than it's 
worth?

I'm just trying to think how things could be backed up and restored if needed. 
Like I say, fortunately, I have an image made of my Monterey install, so if I 
absolutely had to, I could go back, but right now, I don't see any need to do 
that.

Chris.

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 11:14 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi George,
> 
> Yeah, that's a bit unfortunate because both Pro Tools and Flo Tools do not 
> yet support Ventura. At least on the Ventura front, it's not a big issue. 
> With flo Tools, the installer simply doesn't recognize Ventura as a valid OS. 
> Hopefully, Rocco can chime in and help come up with a workaround. Stay tuned.
> 
> Slau
> 
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:05 PM, George Bitzer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello my name is George Bitzer and I am new to Pro Tools. Maybe I shouldn't 
>> have but I upgraded to Mac OS Ventura. After doing so, after starting Pro 
>> Tools, I had to close and reopen Voiceover. I thought that the problem was 
>> Flow Tools and I uninstalled it using the uninstaller in the Flow Tools 
>> folder. When I tried to reinstall, I got the message, "OS variable name 
>> undefined." HELP!! Appologies for maybe being off topic.
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Re: Unable to reinstall Flow Tools

[Chris Gilland]

Slau,

I was about to actually try the actions rotor. That was literally the very next 
thing I had in mind. Go figure! ROFL! That's hillarious. - The one thing I 
didn't try.

So now that I understand, I appreciate it. I don't have time right now this 
evening, but I promise to retract the comment up on Applevis I posted stating 
this is a bug. I won't reference your name or any of the quoted message from 
you, don't worry. I'll just try deleting my comment altogether, and if that 
doesn't work, I'll reach out to admins and have them pull it.

Chris.

PS: Thank you tremendously for your help.

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 11:21 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> The way Pro Tools is behaving in Ventura is actually the way it should from 
> the standpoint of VoiceOver. Command-clicking selects non-contiguous tracks 
> and Shift-clicking (or using Shift with the Control+P/Semicolon selects 
> consecutive tracks. VoiceOver users have had the unusual benefit of being 
> able to select multiple tracks by purely performing the default action with 
> VO+Space. It's the way the Pro Tools UI works for sighted users. We've always 
> tried to have parity with sighted users and this is an example of what that 
> involves. It might feel like a bug but technically it's not. BTW, you can 
> bring up the Action Menu on a track and choose to "press " the track and it 
> will simply add it to the selection.
> 
> Slau
> 
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:26 PM, Christopher Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you don't mind me asking, I don't mean to hijack your thread, so you can 
>> just answer this and then we'll move on, but I'm really curious, as you're 
>> the only other person I know who's outwardly admitted that they updated to 
>> Ventura prior to PT being officially supported..
>> 
>> 
>> When you have multiple tracks in the track list table at a time, what 
>> happens, regardless FloTools being installed or not, if you try selecting 
>> the first track in the table at the very top, then VO+down arrow to the next 
>> track in the list, and then hit VO+Space? Do you find like me it's really 
>> acting totally F***ed up, and is selecting that next track but not leaving 
>> the other one selected as it should?
>> 
>> 
>> I can command+click on each track to select or unselect them individually, 
>> and yeah, CTRL+semi colon, and CTRL+P do work, and also adding shift with 
>> those shortcuts works as well, but doing it the old fassion way by literally 
>> going into the table and VO+spacing on tracks to toggle them is totally 
>> totally totally! busted on my end.
>> 
>> 
>> So far, I'm not seeming to have any other show stopping issues, but then, 
>> I've not really done much with PT since upgrading yesterday, so nightmares 
>> may yet to be discovered. I hope and pray not though. I do however have a 
>> time machine backup, and a bootable USB drive of Monterey, so if worst comes 
>> to worst, I'm not totally screwed. I'd rather not go back, but I will if I 
>> absolutely absolutely must.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Unable to reinstall Flow Tools

[Slau Halatyn]

Chris,
The way Pro Tools is behaving in Ventura is actually the way it should from the 
standpoint of VoiceOver. Command-clicking selects non-contiguous tracks and 
Shift-clicking (or using Shift with the Control+P/Semicolon selects consecutive 
tracks. VoiceOver users have had the unusual benefit of being able to select 
multiple tracks by purely performing the default action with VO+Space. It's the 
way the Pro Tools UI works for sighted users. We've always tried to have parity 
with sighted users and this is an example of what that involves. It might feel 
like a bug but technically it's not. BTW, you can bring up the Action Menu on a 
track and choose to "press " the track and it will simply add it to the 
selection.

Slau


> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:26 PM, Christopher Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> If you don't mind me asking, I don't mean to hijack your thread, so you can 
> just answer this and then we'll move on, but I'm really curious, as you're 
> the only other person I know who's outwardly admitted that they updated to 
> Ventura prior to PT being officially supported..
> 
> 
> When you have multiple tracks in the track list table at a time, what 
> happens, regardless FloTools being installed or not, if you try selecting the 
> first track in the table at the very top, then VO+down arrow to the next 
> track in the list, and then hit VO+Space? Do you find like me it's really 
> acting totally F***ed up, and is selecting that next track but not leaving 
> the other one selected as it should?
> 
> 
> I can command+click on each track to select or unselect them individually, 
> and yeah, CTRL+semi colon, and CTRL+P do work, and also adding shift with 
> those shortcuts works as well, but doing it the old fassion way by literally 
> going into the table and VO+spacing on tracks to toggle them is totally 
> totally totally! busted on my end.
> 
> 
> So far, I'm not seeming to have any other show stopping issues, but then, 
> I've not really done much with PT since upgrading yesterday, so nightmares 
> may yet to be discovered. I hope and pray not though. I do however have a 
> time machine backup, and a bootable USB drive of Monterey, so if worst comes 
> to worst, I'm not totally screwed. I'd rather not go back, but I will if I 
> absolutely absolutely must.
> 
> 
> Chris.
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Re: Unable to reinstall Flow Tools

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi George,

Yeah, that's a bit unfortunate because both Pro Tools and Flo Tools do not yet 
support Ventura. At least on the Ventura front, it's not a big issue. With flo 
Tools, the installer simply doesn't recognize Ventura as a valid OS. Hopefully, 
Rocco can chime in and help come up with a workaround. Stay tuned.

Slau


> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:05 PM, George Bitzer  wrote:
> 
> Hello my name is George Bitzer and I am new to Pro Tools. Maybe I shouldn't 
> have but I upgraded to Mac OS Ventura. After doing so, after starting Pro 
> Tools, I had to close and reopen Voiceover. I thought that the problem was 
> Flow Tools and I uninstalled it using the uninstaller in the Flow Tools 
> folder. When I tried to reinstall, I got the message, "OS variable name 
> undefined." HELP!! Appologies for maybe being off topic.
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Re: Unable to reinstall Flow Tools

[Christopher Gilland]

If you don't mind me asking, I don't mean to hijack your thread, so you 
can just answer this and then we'll move on, but I'm really curious, as 
you're the only other person I know who's outwardly admitted that they 
updated to Ventura prior to PT being officially supported..



When you have multiple tracks in the track list table at a time, what 
happens, regardless FloTools being installed or not, if you try 
selecting the first track in the table at the very top, then VO+down 
arrow to the next track in the list, and then hit VO+Space? Do you find 
like me it's really acting totally F***ed up, and is selecting that next 
track but not leaving the other one selected as it should?



I can command+click on each track to select or unselect them 
individually, and yeah, CTRL+semi colon, and CTRL+P do work, and also 
adding shift with those shortcuts works as well, but doing it the old 
fassion way by literally going into the table and VO+spacing on tracks 
to toggle them is totally totally totally! busted on my end.



So far, I'm not seeming to have any other show stopping issues, but 
then, I've not really done much with PT since upgrading yesterday, so 
nightmares may yet to be discovered. I hope and pray not though. I do 
however have a time machine backup, and a bootable USB drive of 
Monterey, so if worst comes to worst, I'm not totally screwed. I'd 
rather not go back, but I will if I absolutely absolutely must.



Chris.

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Unable to reinstall Flow Tools

[George Bitzer]

Hello my name is George Bitzer and I am new to Pro Tools. Maybe I shouldn't 
have but I upgraded to Mac OS Ventura. After doing so, after starting Pro 
Tools, I had to close and reopen Voiceover. I thought that the problem was 
Flow Tools and I uninstalled it using the uninstaller in the Flow Tools 
folder. When I tried to reinstall, I got the message, "OS variable name 
undefined." HELP!! Appologies for maybe being off topic.

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Re: jumping voiceover cursor

[Chris Gilland]

This isn't on Ventura is it? I doubt it, as that isn't supported fully yet, but 
I just wanted to be sure so I don't get surprised when/if I run into it.

Chris.

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Tom Hessels  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> When i am working on a session with let’s say 30 tracks and navigate with vo 
> plus arrow to track 3 and e.g. typ star 20 to go to measure twenty the 
> voiceover cursor jumps to track 30. I also has this jumping around in other 
> cursomstances in pro tools.
> Any idea what i can do to resolve this?\
>  
> Tom.
>  
>  
>  
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jumping voiceover cursor

[Tom Hessels]

Hi All,

 

When i am working on a session with let's say 30 tracks and navigate with vo
plus arrow to track 3 and e.g. typ star 20 to go to measure twenty the
voiceover cursor jumps to track 30. I also has this jumping around in other
cursomstances in pro tools.

Any idea what i can do to resolve this?\

 

Tom.

 

 

 

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Re: The only problem I'm finding: was: Re: Updates: Adhere to this gentle warning

[Chris Gilland]

They need to be fixed, yes, but at the end of the day, it's definitely not a 
show stopper for me.

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 2:52 AM, Ronald J. Glaser  
> wrote:
> 
> I am glad you found these bugs chris, because when they do get fixed that 
> will be a great help to us all.
> 
> Ron.
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 11:31 PM, Christopher Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK. I'm sorry. Yes. It did come off a bit rudely, but I understand now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On that note, I did! take the plunge. I'm not ready yet to downgrade, as 
>> things look well... O, Kayyy, and I guess we can discuss it here being 
>> Ventura now is in public release, just with the understanding that everyone 
>> knows that this is technically not yet supported fully, so do at your own 
>> risk, but the track list table seems broken in Ventura with 2022.9, and I 
>> didn't know if you and other accessibility testers were aware of it. It's 
>> not a dealbreaker for me though, as there are a few work arounds.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Avid is so big of an industry, I'd not even remotely know where to start 
>> with contacting people there to give the feedback. Here are the more 
>> specifics though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I see in the mix and edit windows both the track list table. But, when I 
>> interact with it, if I try pressing VO+Space on any of the tracks, that 
>> track gets selected, even though you don't hear the little click like you 
>> normally would when hitting VO+Space. The issue is however, when trying to 
>> select multiple tracks, as soon as you hit VO+Space on another track, the 
>> previous selection goes away. So for example, say you had tracks 1, and 
>> tracks 2. If I hit vo+space on track 1, it's now selected only. I now 
>> VO+down arrow to track 2 and hit VO+Space. The expected behavior would be 
>> that now, track 1 and! track 2 both would be selected. In reality though, 
>> only track 2 is now selected. If you go back to track 1 and do a VO+Space, 
>> now, track 1 is selected again, but not track 2.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Before you ask, yes, CTRL+P and CTRL+Semi colon do work pretty reliably for 
>> the most part, and adding shift to those seems to work selecting things 
>> contiguously.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The only way I've found to do it otherwise noncontigulously is to use my 
>> actual mouse trackpad, and literally command+click each track one by one to 
>> toggle it from selected to nonselected or vice versa. Looking in the Avid 
>> forums, it appears that this is the official way sighted people do it, and 
>> yes. That way seems to be working totally consistently.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If this isn't known already, is there any Avid people we can push it to so 
>> that this gets fixed by the time it does go official?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ---
>> Chris Gilland
>> 
>> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/c/chrisgilland
>> On 10/24/2022 7:00 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> You did nothing wrong at all. I was merely poking a little fun at the fact 
>>> that, despite your disclaimer, you do tend to be overly dramatic with the 
>>> "Chocked beyond belief" type of comment. Sorry, but wouldn't you agree that 
>>> such a statement is just a wee bit over the top? Again, I'm just making 
>>> light of it and I hope you can see the light-hearted humor in it. Helping 
>>> is a good thing, of course and it's a good thing to point out the obvious 
>>> sometimes. It's all good. Don't take offense. I'm just funnin' with you :)
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Christopher Gilland >>> > wrote:
 
 Goodness, Slau. I'm sorry! Not to be rude/overdramatic here, but I thought 
 I was doing a good thing, helping. I guess not though. Jesus Christ! Thank 
 you for the link though.
 
 
 
 Chris.
 
 ---
 Chris Gilland
 
 Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/c/chrisgilland
 On 10/24/2022 4:06 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> Chris,
> Once your shock (beyond belief) wears off, you should consider the fact 
> that Avid posts compatibility data on their website and Pro Tools users 
> are used to the fact that upgrading an OS before Pro Tools supports it is 
> not recommended, not to mention somewhat risky. People do, however, try 
> things out on a separate machine or partition just to experiment. Brace 
> yourself (so that you're not shocked) when the question of whether or not 
> to upgrade to Ventura comes up for months to come and users will 
> repeatedly be pointed toward the compatibility chart on the Avid site. 
> When the question inevitably comes up, steel yourself and share the 
> following link:
> https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/compatibility/Pro-Tools-Operating-System-Compatibility-Chart
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm absolutely shocked beyond belief that not a single person, not even 
>> Slau, has written 

Re: The only problem I'm finding: was: Re: Updates: Adhere to this gentle warning

[Ronald J. Glaser]

I am glad you found these bugs chris, because when they do get fixed that will 
be a great help to us all.

Ron.

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 11:31 PM, Christopher Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK. I'm sorry. Yes. It did come off a bit rudely, but I understand now.
> 
> 
> 
> On that note, I did! take the plunge. I'm not ready yet to downgrade, as 
> things look well... O, Kayyy, and I guess we can discuss it here being 
> Ventura now is in public release, just with the understanding that everyone 
> knows that this is technically not yet supported fully, so do at your own 
> risk, but the track list table seems broken in Ventura with 2022.9, and I 
> didn't know if you and other accessibility testers were aware of it. It's not 
> a dealbreaker for me though, as there are a few work arounds.
> 
> 
> 
> Avid is so big of an industry, I'd not even remotely know where to start with 
> contacting people there to give the feedback. Here are the more specifics 
> though.
> 
> 
> 
> I see in the mix and edit windows both the track list table. But, when I 
> interact with it, if I try pressing VO+Space on any of the tracks, that track 
> gets selected, even though you don't hear the little click like you normally 
> would when hitting VO+Space. The issue is however, when trying to select 
> multiple tracks, as soon as you hit VO+Space on another track, the previous 
> selection goes away. So for example, say you had tracks 1, and tracks 2. If I 
> hit vo+space on track 1, it's now selected only. I now VO+down arrow to track 
> 2 and hit VO+Space. The expected behavior would be that now, track 1 and! 
> track 2 both would be selected. In reality though, only track 2 is now 
> selected. If you go back to track 1 and do a VO+Space, now, track 1 is 
> selected again, but not track 2.
> 
> 
> 
> Before you ask, yes, CTRL+P and CTRL+Semi colon do work pretty reliably for 
> the most part, and adding shift to those seems to work selecting things 
> contiguously.
> 
> 
> 
> The only way I've found to do it otherwise noncontigulously is to use my 
> actual mouse trackpad, and literally command+click each track one by one to 
> toggle it from selected to nonselected or vice versa. Looking in the Avid 
> forums, it appears that this is the official way sighted people do it, and 
> yes. That way seems to be working totally consistently.
> 
> 
> 
> If this isn't known already, is there any Avid people we can push it to so 
> that this gets fixed by the time it does go official?
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ---
> Chris Gilland
> 
> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/c/chrisgilland
> On 10/24/2022 7:00 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> You did nothing wrong at all. I was merely poking a little fun at the fact 
>> that, despite your disclaimer, you do tend to be overly dramatic with the 
>> "Chocked beyond belief" type of comment. Sorry, but wouldn't you agree that 
>> such a statement is just a wee bit over the top? Again, I'm just making 
>> light of it and I hope you can see the light-hearted humor in it. Helping is 
>> a good thing, of course and it's a good thing to point out the obvious 
>> sometimes. It's all good. Don't take offense. I'm just funnin' with you :)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Christopher Gilland >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Goodness, Slau. I'm sorry! Not to be rude/overdramatic here, but I thought 
>>> I was doing a good thing, helping. I guess not though. Jesus Christ! Thank 
>>> you for the link though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Chris Gilland
>>> 
>>> Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/c/chrisgilland
>>> On 10/24/2022 4:06 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Chris,
 Once your shock (beyond belief) wears off, you should consider the fact 
 that Avid posts compatibility data on their website and Pro Tools users 
 are used to the fact that upgrading an OS before Pro Tools supports it is 
 not recommended, not to mention somewhat risky. People do, however, try 
 things out on a separate machine or partition just to experiment. Brace 
 yourself (so that you're not shocked) when the question of whether or not 
 to upgrade to Ventura comes up for months to come and users will 
 repeatedly be pointed toward the compatibility chart on the Avid site. 
 When the question inevitably comes up, steel yourself and share the 
 following link:
 https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/compatibility/Pro-Tools-Operating-System-Compatibility-Chart
 
 
 
> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Gilland  > wrote:
> 
> I'm absolutely shocked beyond belief that not a single person, not even 
> Slau, has written in on the list about this. as of yet. At least, not 
> that I've seen.
> 
> Remember that today for us Mac users is mager upgrade time. This means OS 
> Monterrey is getting an upgrade officially to OS 13 Ventura.
> 
> Along with this, we may even be getting