Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses.
Hi everybody, so, if I understand well, in a bus you can group a list of tracks, and, for example, you can put a fader or an insert on it: it is like a little mixer in a big mixer. Right? But I don't understand the function of Aux tracks. What do the actually do? Thank you for your answer. Have a nice day. Diego. 2011/8/9, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hey Gordon, Just to clarify, every Pro Tools session has 128 stereo or 256 mono channels of busses which may or may not be used but are available for assignment. Further, an auxiliary track is technically known as an auxiliary input so it's source doesn't necessarily have to be a bus. You can have an aux input that gets its feed from your interface as well. Plus, of course, busses can feed busses. For example, you can have a bus for several soprano, alto, tenor and bass tracks and have all of those 4 aux tracks output to yet another bus for, say, an entire choir and put that on one fader. Of course, you probably already figured that from prior experience ;) Best, Slau On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Thanks. There's a lot of good stuff up there. I guess the main concept I need to get used to is that the aux tracks you create are actually assigned to the available busses and act as a gateway to those busses, rather than interacting with them directly. In Sonar, you actuaslly create the output busses themselves as needed. I certainly am familiar with working with busses, sends, inserts, etc. Back in the day I had patch bays with over 200 patch points, I sure don't miss that. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:21 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses. Hi List, Heres a great little article on PT 9 busses. Enjoy http://protoolstraining.com/ProMedia-Blog/Tip-and-Trick/lets-all-get-on-the-bus.html?utm_content=chuck2sticks%40gmail.comutm_source=VerticalResponseutm_medium=Emailutm_term=utm_campaign=Pro%20Tools%20Training%3A%20Bus%20Routing%20in%20Pro%20Tools%20%26%20New%20Mixing%20Classes%20Announcedcontent On Aug 5, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi chuck: Thanks for getting back to me. I had had him check for that since we have it in the lt version, but it didn't seem to be there, at least it wasn't in the output tab of the i/o setup window. I'll have him give it another look, maybe it is in a different place. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:49 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hi Gordon, Here is the solution to your friends I/O set up getting messed up. Tell your friend with the full tdm system before he opens your session to go and make sure to uncheck Sessions overwrite current I/ O Setup Have Him Follow this path find the set up menu; next find the I/o; open the I/O window, then find option for Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup which is located near the bottom of the PT I/O set up window. MAKE SURE that Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup when opened; is unchecked to prevent your session that your sending to Him changing his I/O. Call me for further details if you want. YMMV GOD Bless Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Usually when I set up a track in PT, I just assign the output to a physical hardware output. How can I use all those busses they give you and where do you go to route their outputs to the appropriate hardware? When I send a PT session I've done to someone I do a lot of work with who has a full tdm system, it messes up all his i/o routing. I figured that if I just route all my tracks to a master bus instead of hardware, it might help the situation. Any ideas about this would be welcome. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:06 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From joy to frustration! Hi Gazza, Use Command-Option-1 to use Commands focus mode. There are two other modes which are, if I remember correctly, Audio Regions and Groups focus mode and they are Command-Option-2 and Command- Option-3 respectively. There's also a keyboard focus button right in the window but, if the tracks list isn't displayed, you can't access that button. what Kevin mentioned about the Mix window display buttons should help you get it to be visible. I think there's also a menu item to display the tracks list. HTH, Slau On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: Hi Listers, Well, I bought a mac about a year ago because I wanted to start using Pro Tools, but when the accessible version finally arrived, I found getting around a session so clunky and horrible to use, I bought Logic and have been using that, I have a little sight so I was stumbling
Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses.
Thanks. I've been wondering why sometimes you see the message busses 32 thru 96 active or whatever. Does that mean that those are the ones that are still left unused? Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses. Hey Gordon, Just to clarify, every Pro Tools session has 128 stereo or 256 mono channels of busses which may or may not be used but are available for assignment. Further, an auxiliary track is technically known as an auxiliary input so it's source doesn't necessarily have to be a bus. You can have an aux input that gets its feed from your interface as well. Plus, of course, busses can feed busses. For example, you can have a bus for several soprano, alto, tenor and bass tracks and have all of those 4 aux tracks output to yet another bus for, say, an entire choir and put that on one fader. Of course, you probably already figured that from prior experience ;) Best, Slau On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Thanks. There's a lot of good stuff up there. I guess the main concept I need to get used to is that the aux tracks you create are actually assigned to the available busses and act as a gateway to those busses, rather than interacting with them directly. In Sonar, you actuaslly create the output busses themselves as needed. I certainly am familiar with working with busses, sends, inserts, etc. Back in the day I had patch bays with over 200 patch points, I sure don't miss that. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:21 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses. Hi List, Heres a great little article on PT 9 busses. Enjoy http://protoolstraining.com/ProMedia-Blog/Tip-and-Trick/lets-all-get-on-the-bus.html?utm_content=chuck2sticks%40gmail.comutm_source=VerticalResponseutm_medium=Emailutm_term=utm_campaign=Pro%20Tools%20Training%3A%20Bus%20Routing%20in%20Pro%20Tools%20%26%20New%20Mixing%20Classes%20Announcedcontent On Aug 5, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi chuck: Thanks for getting back to me. I had had him check for that since we have it in the lt version, but it didn't seem to be there, at least it wasn't in the output tab of the i/o setup window. I'll have him give it another look, maybe it is in a different place. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:49 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hi Gordon, Here is the solution to your friends I/O set up getting messed up. Tell your friend with the full tdm system before he opens your session to go and make sure to uncheck Sessions overwrite current I/ O Setup Have Him Follow this path find the set up menu; next find the I/o; open the I/O window, then find option for Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup which is located near the bottom of the PT I/O set up window. MAKE SURE that Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup when opened; is unchecked to prevent your session that your sending to Him changing his I/O. Call me for further details if you want. YMMV GOD Bless Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Usually when I set up a track in PT, I just assign the output to a physical hardware output. How can I use all those busses they give you and where do you go to route their outputs to the appropriate hardware? When I send a PT session I've done to someone I do a lot of work with who has a full tdm system, it messes up all his i/o routing. I figured that if I just route all my tracks to a master bus instead of hardware, it might help the situation. Any ideas about this would be welcome. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:06 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From joy to frustration! Hi Gazza, Use Command-Option-1 to use Commands focus mode. There are two other modes which are, if I remember correctly, Audio Regions and Groups focus mode and they are Command-Option-2 and Command- Option-3 respectively. There's also a keyboard focus button right in the window but, if the tracks list isn't displayed, you can't access that button. what Kevin mentioned about the Mix window display buttons should help you get it to be visible. I think there's also a menu item to display the tracks list. HTH, Slau On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: Hi Listers, Well, I bought a mac about a year ago because I wanted to start using Pro Tools, but when the accessible version finally arrived, I found getting around a session so clunky and horrible to use, I bought Logic and have been using that, I have a little sight so I was stumbling along with it. Then, after months and months of using Logic, I
Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses.
Where are you seeing that? There's no way to tell which busses are being used unless you go to the sends or audio in and audio outs of tracks. There is no buss view in Pro Tools like Sonar. HF On 8/9/2011 4:54 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Thanks. I've been wondering why sometimes you see the message busses 32 thru 96 active or whatever. Does that mean that those are the ones that are still left unused? Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses. Hey Gordon, Just to clarify, every Pro Tools session has 128 stereo or 256 mono channels of busses which may or may not be used but are available for assignment. Further, an auxiliary track is technically known as an auxiliary input so it's source doesn't necessarily have to be a bus. You can have an aux input that gets its feed from your interface as well. Plus, of course, busses can feed busses. For example, you can have a bus for several soprano, alto, tenor and bass tracks and have all of those 4 aux tracks output to yet another bus for, say, an entire choir and put that on one fader. Of course, you probably already figured that from prior experience ;) Best, Slau On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Thanks. There's a lot of good stuff up there. I guess the main concept I need to get used to is that the aux tracks you create are actually assigned to the available busses and act as a gateway to those busses, rather than interacting with them directly. In Sonar, you actuaslly create the output busses themselves as needed. I certainly am familiar with working with busses, sends, inserts, etc. Back in the day I had patch bays with over 200 patch points, I sure don't miss that. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:21 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses. Hi List, Heres a great little article on PT 9 busses. Enjoy http://protoolstraining.com/ProMedia-Blog/Tip-and-Trick/lets-all-get-on-the-bus.html?utm_content=chuck2sticks%40gmail.comutm_source=VerticalResponseutm_medium=Emailutm_term=utm_campaign=Pro%20Tools%20Training%3A%20Bus%20Routing%20in%20Pro%20Tools%20%26%20New%20Mixing%20Classes%20Announcedcontent On Aug 5, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi chuck: Thanks for getting back to me. I had had him check for that since we have it in the lt version, but it didn't seem to be there, at least it wasn't in the output tab of the i/o setup window. I'll have him give it another look, maybe it is in a different place. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:49 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hi Gordon, Here is the solution to your friends I/O set up getting messed up. Tell your friend with the full tdm system before he opens your session to go and make sure to uncheck Sessions overwrite current I/ O Setup Have Him Follow this path find the set up menu; next find the I/o; open the I/O window, then find option for Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup which is located near the bottom of the PT I/O set up window. MAKE SURE that Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup when opened; is unchecked to prevent your session that your sending to Him changing his I/O. Call me for further details if you want. YMMV GOD Bless Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Usually when I set up a track in PT, I just assign the output to a physical hardware output. How can I use all those busses they give you and where do you go to route their outputs to the appropriate hardware? When I send a PT session I've done to someone I do a lot of work with who has a full tdm system, it messes up all his i/o routing. I figured that if I just route all my tracks to a master bus instead of hardware, it might help the situation. Any ideas about this would be welcome. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:06 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From joy to frustration! Hi Gazza, Use Command-Option-1 to use Commands focus mode. There are two other modes which are, if I remember correctly, Audio Regions and Groups focus mode and they are Command-Option-2 and Command- Option-3 respectively. There's also a keyboard focus button right in the window but, if the tracks list isn't displayed, you can't access that button. what Kevin mentioned about the Mix window display buttons should help you get it to be visible. I think there's also a menu item to display the tracks list. HTH, Slau On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: Hi Listers, Well, I bought a mac about a year ago because I wanted to start using Pro Tools, but when the accessible version finally arrived, I found getting around a session so clunky and horrible to use
Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses.
Hey Gord, I'm not sure where you're seeing that. When assigning sends or track outputs to a bus, since any number of tracks can be assigned to any bus, there's no such thing as available or unavailable. The only thing I can think of is if an Aux track hasn't been assigned to an output but then it usually just says, No Output or something like that. If you come across that message again, let us know so we can figure out where and why you're seeing it. It used to be that LE systems had way fewer busses than HD systems and if you were to open such an HD session on an LE system, the higher busses were inactive but that should no longer really be the case. Anyway, keep an eye out. Best, Slau On Aug 9, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Thanks. I've been wondering why sometimes you see the message busses 32 thru 96 active or whatever. Does that mean that those are the ones that are still left unused? Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses. Hey Gordon, Just to clarify, every Pro Tools session has 128 stereo or 256 mono channels of busses which may or may not be used but are available for assignment. Further, an auxiliary track is technically known as an auxiliary input so it's source doesn't necessarily have to be a bus. You can have an aux input that gets its feed from your interface as well. Plus, of course, busses can feed busses. For example, you can have a bus for several soprano, alto, tenor and bass tracks and have all of those 4 aux tracks output to yet another bus for, say, an entire choir and put that on one fader. Of course, you probably already figured that from prior experience ;) Best, Slau On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Thanks. There's a lot of good stuff up there. I guess the main concept I need to get used to is that the aux tracks you create are actually assigned to the available busses and act as a gateway to those busses, rather than interacting with them directly. In Sonar, you actuaslly create the output busses themselves as needed. I certainly am familiar with working with busses, sends, inserts, etc. Back in the day I had patch bays with over 200 patch points, I sure don't miss that. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:21 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses. Hi List, Heres a great little article on PT 9 busses. Enjoy http://protoolstraining.com/ProMedia-Blog/Tip-and-Trick/lets-all-get-on-the-bus.html?utm_content=chuck2sticks%40gmail.comutm_source=VerticalResponseutm_medium=Emailutm_term=utm_campaign=Pro%20Tools%20Training%3A%20Bus%20Routing%20in%20Pro%20Tools%20%26%20New%20Mixing%20Classes%20Announcedcontent On Aug 5, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi chuck: Thanks for getting back to me. I had had him check for that since we have it in the lt version, but it didn't seem to be there, at least it wasn't in the output tab of the i/o setup window. I'll have him give it another look, maybe it is in a different place. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:49 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hi Gordon, Here is the solution to your friends I/O set up getting messed up. Tell your friend with the full tdm system before he opens your session to go and make sure to uncheck Sessions overwrite current I/ O Setup Have Him Follow this path find the set up menu; next find the I/o; open the I/O window, then find option for Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup which is located near the bottom of the PT I/O set up window. MAKE SURE that Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup when opened; is unchecked to prevent your session that your sending to Him changing his I/O. Call me for further details if you want. YMMV GOD Bless Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Usually when I set up a track in PT, I just assign the output to a physical hardware output. How can I use all those busses they give you and where do you go to route their outputs to the appropriate hardware? When I send a PT session I've done to someone I do a lot of work with who has a full tdm system, it messes up all his i/o routing. I figured that if I just route all my tracks to a master bus instead of hardware, it might help the situation. Any ideas about this would be welcome. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:06 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From joy to frustration! Hi Gazza, Use Command-Option-1 to use Commands focus mode. There are two other modes which are, if I
Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses.
Hi List, Heres a great little article on PT 9 busses. Enjoy http://protoolstraining.com/ProMedia-Blog/Tip-and-Trick/lets-all-get-on-the-bus.html?utm_content=chuck2sticks%40gmail.comutm_source=VerticalResponseutm_medium=Emailutm_term=utm_campaign=Pro%20Tools%20Training%3A%20Bus%20Routing%20in%20Pro%20Tools%20%26%20New%20Mixing%20Classes%20Announcedcontent On Aug 5, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi chuck: Thanks for getting back to me. I had had him check for that since we have it in the lt version, but it didn't seem to be there, at least it wasn't in the output tab of the i/o setup window. I'll have him give it another look, maybe it is in a different place. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:49 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hi Gordon, Here is the solution to your friends I/O set up getting messed up. Tell your friend with the full tdm system before he opens your session to go and make sure to uncheck Sessions overwrite current I/ O Setup Have Him Follow this path find the set up menu; next find the I/o; open the I/O window, then find option for Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup which is located near the bottom of the PT I/O set up window. MAKE SURE that Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup when opened; is unchecked to prevent your session that your sending to Him changing his I/O. Call me for further details if you want. YMMV GOD Bless Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Usually when I set up a track in PT, I just assign the output to a physical hardware output. How can I use all those busses they give you and where do you go to route their outputs to the appropriate hardware? When I send a PT session I've done to someone I do a lot of work with who has a full tdm system, it messes up all his i/o routing. I figured that if I just route all my tracks to a master bus instead of hardware, it might help the situation. Any ideas about this would be welcome. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:06 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From joy to frustration! Hi Gazza, Use Command-Option-1 to use Commands focus mode. There are two other modes which are, if I remember correctly, Audio Regions and Groups focus mode and they are Command-Option-2 and Command- Option-3 respectively. There's also a keyboard focus button right in the window but, if the tracks list isn't displayed, you can't access that button. what Kevin mentioned about the Mix window display buttons should help you get it to be visible. I think there's also a menu item to display the tracks list. HTH, Slau On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: Hi Listers, Well, I bought a mac about a year ago because I wanted to start using Pro Tools, but when the accessible version finally arrived, I found getting around a session so clunky and horrible to use, I bought Logic and have been using that, I have a little sight so I was stumbling along with it. Then, after months and months of using Logic, I come across Keven's tutorial and discover that, once you've got more than one track in the session, the track list is usable by VO and that's what I wanted to do initally, quickly find a track, mute, solo and arm. However, whilst I can select the tracks in the track list, Shift m r and s are not working for me regardless of what I seem to try. So I googled around and found that this seems to have something to do with keyboard focus mode? I'm using PT 8.4 by the way, and these keys apparently are available in 8.4? So, How, in the name of sanity, do I get that functionality to work where I can sit in the track list and mute, solo and arm and unarm? My other question is, How do I get the track list to be displayed in the mix window? PT is only letting me cursor over there if I'm in the edit window but Kevin seemed to be able to get there whilst in the mix window? Finally, for now, what's the quickest way to get to the track list? I'm often using vo i to bring up the items list and typing table to filter the list and selecting track list table, however if you've got a gazillion tracks in your session, it takes a while for the itme list to pop up. Any thoughts on that one? Thanks Gazza Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses.
Thanks. There's a lot of good stuff up there. I guess the main concept I need to get used to is that the aux tracks you create are actually assigned to the available busses and act as a gateway to those busses, rather than interacting with them directly. In Sonar, you actuaslly create the output busses themselves as needed. I certainly am familiar with working with busses, sends, inserts, etc. Back in the day I had patch bays with over 200 patch points, I sure don't miss that. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:21 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses. Hi List, Heres a great little article on PT 9 busses. Enjoy http://protoolstraining.com/ProMedia-Blog/Tip-and-Trick/lets-all-get-on-the-bus.html?utm_content=chuck2sticks%40gmail.comutm_source=VerticalResponseutm_medium=Emailutm_term=utm_campaign=Pro%20Tools%20Training%3A%20Bus%20Routing%20in%20Pro%20Tools%20%26%20New%20Mixing%20Classes%20Announcedcontent On Aug 5, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi chuck: Thanks for getting back to me. I had had him check for that since we have it in the lt version, but it didn't seem to be there, at least it wasn't in the output tab of the i/o setup window. I'll have him give it another look, maybe it is in a different place. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:49 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hi Gordon, Here is the solution to your friends I/O set up getting messed up. Tell your friend with the full tdm system before he opens your session to go and make sure to uncheck Sessions overwrite current I/ O Setup Have Him Follow this path find the set up menu; next find the I/o; open the I/O window, then find option for Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup which is located near the bottom of the PT I/O set up window. MAKE SURE that Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup when opened; is unchecked to prevent your session that your sending to Him changing his I/O. Call me for further details if you want. YMMV GOD Bless Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Usually when I set up a track in PT, I just assign the output to a physical hardware output. How can I use all those busses they give you and where do you go to route their outputs to the appropriate hardware? When I send a PT session I've done to someone I do a lot of work with who has a full tdm system, it messes up all his i/o routing. I figured that if I just route all my tracks to a master bus instead of hardware, it might help the situation. Any ideas about this would be welcome. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:06 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From joy to frustration! Hi Gazza, Use Command-Option-1 to use Commands focus mode. There are two other modes which are, if I remember correctly, Audio Regions and Groups focus mode and they are Command-Option-2 and Command- Option-3 respectively. There's also a keyboard focus button right in the window but, if the tracks list isn't displayed, you can't access that button. what Kevin mentioned about the Mix window display buttons should help you get it to be visible. I think there's also a menu item to display the tracks list. HTH, Slau On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: Hi Listers, Well, I bought a mac about a year ago because I wanted to start using Pro Tools, but when the accessible version finally arrived, I found getting around a session so clunky and horrible to use, I bought Logic and have been using that, I have a little sight so I was stumbling along with it. Then, after months and months of using Logic, I come across Keven's tutorial and discover that, once you've got more than one track in the session, the track list is usable by VO and that's what I wanted to do initally, quickly find a track, mute, solo and arm. However, whilst I can select the tracks in the track list, Shift m r and s are not working for me regardless of what I seem to try. So I googled around and found that this seems to have something to do with keyboard focus mode? I'm using PT 8.4 by the way, and these keys apparently are available in 8.4? So, How, in the name of sanity, do I get that functionality to work where I can sit in the track list and mute, solo and arm and unarm? My other question is, How do I get the track list to be displayed in the mix window? PT is only letting me cursor over there if I'm in the edit window but Kevin seemed to be able to get there whilst in the mix window? Finally, for now, what's the quickest way to get to the track list? I'm often using vo i to bring up the items list and typing table to filter the list and selecting track
Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses.
Hey Gordon, Just to clarify, every Pro Tools session has 128 stereo or 256 mono channels of busses which may or may not be used but are available for assignment. Further, an auxiliary track is technically known as an auxiliary input so it's source doesn't necessarily have to be a bus. You can have an aux input that gets its feed from your interface as well. Plus, of course, busses can feed busses. For example, you can have a bus for several soprano, alto, tenor and bass tracks and have all of those 4 aux tracks output to yet another bus for, say, an entire choir and put that on one fader. Of course, you probably already figured that from prior experience ;) Best, Slau On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Thanks. There's a lot of good stuff up there. I guess the main concept I need to get used to is that the aux tracks you create are actually assigned to the available busses and act as a gateway to those busses, rather than interacting with them directly. In Sonar, you actuaslly create the output busses themselves as needed. I certainly am familiar with working with busses, sends, inserts, etc. Back in the day I had patch bays with over 200 patch points, I sure don't miss that. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:21 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Confused about busses/ PT 9 Link about busses. Hi List, Heres a great little article on PT 9 busses. Enjoy http://protoolstraining.com/ProMedia-Blog/Tip-and-Trick/lets-all-get-on-the-bus.html?utm_content=chuck2sticks%40gmail.comutm_source=VerticalResponseutm_medium=Emailutm_term=utm_campaign=Pro%20Tools%20Training%3A%20Bus%20Routing%20in%20Pro%20Tools%20%26%20New%20Mixing%20Classes%20Announcedcontent On Aug 5, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi chuck: Thanks for getting back to me. I had had him check for that since we have it in the lt version, but it didn't seem to be there, at least it wasn't in the output tab of the i/o setup window. I'll have him give it another look, maybe it is in a different place. Gord -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:49 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hi Gordon, Here is the solution to your friends I/O set up getting messed up. Tell your friend with the full tdm system before he opens your session to go and make sure to uncheck Sessions overwrite current I/ O Setup Have Him Follow this path find the set up menu; next find the I/o; open the I/O window, then find option for Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup which is located near the bottom of the PT I/O set up window. MAKE SURE that Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup when opened; is unchecked to prevent your session that your sending to Him changing his I/O. Call me for further details if you want. YMMV GOD Bless Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Usually when I set up a track in PT, I just assign the output to a physical hardware output. How can I use all those busses they give you and where do you go to route their outputs to the appropriate hardware? When I send a PT session I've done to someone I do a lot of work with who has a full tdm system, it messes up all his i/o routing. I figured that if I just route all my tracks to a master bus instead of hardware, it might help the situation. Any ideas about this would be welcome. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:06 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From joy to frustration! Hi Gazza, Use Command-Option-1 to use Commands focus mode. There are two other modes which are, if I remember correctly, Audio Regions and Groups focus mode and they are Command-Option-2 and Command- Option-3 respectively. There's also a keyboard focus button right in the window but, if the tracks list isn't displayed, you can't access that button. what Kevin mentioned about the Mix window display buttons should help you get it to be visible. I think there's also a menu item to display the tracks list. HTH, Slau On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: Hi Listers, Well, I bought a mac about a year ago because I wanted to start using Pro Tools, but when the accessible version finally arrived, I found getting around a session so clunky and horrible to use, I bought Logic and have been using that, I have a little sight so I was stumbling along with it. Then, after months and months of using Logic, I come across Keven's tutorial and discover that, once you've got more than one track in the session, the track list is usable by VO and that's what I wanted to do initally, quickly find a track, mute, solo and arm. However, whilst I can select
Re: Confused about busses
AAAh! I thought that was the case, just wanted to be sure. Thanks. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 8:14 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses VoiceOver itself doesn't support modifier clicks. You need to route the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and use a track pad or mouse with the Option modifier. HTH, Slau On Aug 6, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: OK, but how do you option click with VO? Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:21 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hey Gordon, What Chuck described should work fine. While that's the more preferable solution, there's another simple solution that'll solve the problem even without having to make sure the I/O Setup is configured properly for overwriting configurations and that is to simply unassign all outputs. You can do this by Option-clicking any output on any track and choosing no output. Anyone opening the session will first have to assign the outputs by essentially doing the opposite. Regarding busses, they're not assignable to outputs directly. That is, much like analog consoles, they have to eventually be assigned to a fader which, in turn, is assigned to a physical output. When saving a session, you can leave your busses assigned and the assignments will remain intact on other systems. HTH, Slau
Re: Confused about busses
OK, but how do you option click with VO? Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:21 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hey Gordon, What Chuck described should work fine. While that's the more preferable solution, there's another simple solution that'll solve the problem even without having to make sure the I/O Setup is configured properly for overwriting configurations and that is to simply unassign all outputs. You can do this by Option-clicking any output on any track and choosing no output. Anyone opening the session will first have to assign the outputs by essentially doing the opposite. Regarding busses, they're not assignable to outputs directly. That is, much like analog consoles, they have to eventually be assigned to a fader which, in turn, is assigned to a physical output. When saving a session, you can leave your busses assigned and the assignments will remain intact on other systems. HTH, Slau
Re: Confused about busses
VoiceOver itself doesn't support modifier clicks. You need to route the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and use a track pad or mouse with the Option modifier. HTH, Slau On Aug 6, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: OK, but how do you option click with VO? Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:21 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Confused about busses Hey Gordon, What Chuck described should work fine. While that's the more preferable solution, there's another simple solution that'll solve the problem even without having to make sure the I/O Setup is configured properly for overwriting configurations and that is to simply unassign all outputs. You can do this by Option-clicking any output on any track and choosing no output. Anyone opening the session will first have to assign the outputs by essentially doing the opposite. Regarding busses, they're not assignable to outputs directly. That is, much like analog consoles, they have to eventually be assigned to a fader which, in turn, is assigned to a physical output. When saving a session, you can leave your busses assigned and the assignments will remain intact on other systems. HTH, Slau
Re: Confused about busses
Hi Gordon, Here is the solution to your friends I/O set up getting messed up. Tell your friend with the full tdm system before he opens your session to go and make sure to uncheck Sessions overwrite current I/ O Setup Have Him Follow this path find the set up menu; next find the I/o; open the I/O window, then find option for Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup which is located near the bottom of the PT I/O set up window. MAKE SURE that Sessions overwrite current I/O Setup when opened; is unchecked to prevent your session that your sending to Him changing his I/O. Call me for further details if you want. YMMV GOD Bless Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Usually when I set up a track in PT, I just assign the output to a physical hardware output. How can I use all those busses they give you and where do you go to route their outputs to the appropriate hardware? When I send a PT session I've done to someone I do a lot of work with who has a full tdm system, it messes up all his i/o routing. I figured that if I just route all my tracks to a master bus instead of hardware, it might help the situation. Any ideas about this would be welcome. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:06 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: From joy to frustration! Hi Gazza, Use Command-Option-1 to use Commands focus mode. There are two other modes which are, if I remember correctly, Audio Regions and Groups focus mode and they are Command-Option-2 and Command-Option-3 respectively. There's also a keyboard focus button right in the window but, if the tracks list isn't displayed, you can't access that button. what Kevin mentioned about the Mix window display buttons should help you get it to be visible. I think there's also a menu item to display the tracks list. HTH, Slau On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: Hi Listers, Well, I bought a mac about a year ago because I wanted to start using Pro Tools, but when the accessible version finally arrived, I found getting around a session so clunky and horrible to use, I bought Logic and have been using that, I have a little sight so I was stumbling along with it. Then, after months and months of using Logic, I come across Keven's tutorial and discover that, once you've got more than one track in the session, the track list is usable by VO and that's what I wanted to do initally, quickly find a track, mute, solo and arm. However, whilst I can select the tracks in the track list, Shift m r and s are not working for me regardless of what I seem to try. So I googled around and found that this seems to have something to do with keyboard focus mode? I'm using PT 8.4 by the way, and these keys apparently are available in 8.4? So, How, in the name of sanity, do I get that functionality to work where I can sit in the track list and mute, solo and arm and unarm? My other question is, How do I get the track list to be displayed in the mix window? PT is only letting me cursor over there if I'm in the edit window but Kevin seemed to be able to get there whilst in the mix window? Finally, for now, what's the quickest way to get to the track list? I'm often using vo i to bring up the items list and typing table to filter the list and selecting track list table, however if you've got a gazillion tracks in your session, it takes a while for the itme list to pop up. Any thoughts on that one? Thanks Gazza Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: Confused about busses
Hey Gordon, What Chuck described should work fine. While that's the more preferable solution, there's another simple solution that'll solve the problem even without having to make sure the I/O Setup is configured properly for overwriting configurations and that is to simply unassign all outputs. You can do this by Option-clicking any output on any track and choosing no output. Anyone opening the session will first have to assign the outputs by essentially doing the opposite. Regarding busses, they're not assignable to outputs directly. That is, much like analog consoles, they have to eventually be assigned to a fader which, in turn, is assigned to a physical output. When saving a session, you can leave your busses assigned and the assignments will remain intact on other systems. HTH, Slau
