Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.

2012-03-30 Thread Slau Halatyn
No problems. Given the nature of forum communication, my brief answers may come 
across as curt. Most often, it's just because I don't have the time to 
elaborate.

Slau

On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> I kept over looking it.  I'm so so sorry.
> 
> It had been a long night.  Yes, I found it.  Please don't think I was 
> accusing you, as if it was taken that way, I definitely didn't mean for it to 
> come across in that manor.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Did you actually look through the Preferences window? In the Mixing tab, the 
> very first checkbox is the one. I don't understand why you couldn't find it. 
> well, there it is.
> 
> best,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> I don't see that tab anywhere by the way.
>> 
>> Can you get the exact tab it's on, and what exactly it's called?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> The reason you're not seeing bus 1-2 is because it's probably either the 
>> delay or reverb aux. I don't know why your busses have been named that way 
>> but that's what's going on. Normally, one can use the pop-up menu in the 
>> sends to send to a new auxiliary track. Pro Tools then automatically creates 
>> an Aux track and assigns the proper bus routing and names the bus to 
>> correspond with the auxiliary track's name. The way you did it is 
>> essentially the manual way. Just an FYI.
>> 
>> One thing you might want to do to ensure the plug-in is getting signal is to 
>> set your default send level to unity gain. There's a checkbox in the Pro 
>> Tools Preferences window, although I can't remember exactly which tab, that 
>> says something like, "Sends default to inf" which means infinite resistance, 
>> in other words zero. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, this is really strange.
>>> 
>>> I have two tracks in my project.  One is justan mp3 karaoke track I 
>>> imported.  The other is my vocal track.  So, I added a new stereo track on 
>>> top of having those other two, and set it to a stereo A U X track.
>>> 
>>> Then, on the vocal track, I interacted with the sends, ond on send A, I 
>>> went to buss sub menu, and was going to route it to 1 2 stereo.  I can't 
>>> though. The only thing I see is things like reverb stereo, delay stereo, 
>>> etc. then I see 7 8 or 7 etc. etc.  I dont' see one 2.  I went ahead and 
>>> said what the heck, route it to 7 8.  I did, then went to the A U X track, 
>>> and set the input path to buss, 7 8.  Again, I'm only doing that as I can't 
>>> find 1 2 anywhere in the buss menu for some weird reason.  If it would help 
>>> you all for me to send you the session, I'd be happy to send space it off 
>>> list so you actually can look at what I did.
>>> 
>>> The bottom line is, in my A U X track, I assigned on insert A, a reverb 
>>> effect.  Then back on the audio track of my vocal, I hit the send assign 
>>> button with vo+space.  Here's also where I'm really getting stuck. 
>>> According to the documentation, there is supposed to be a fader I can move 
>>> up and down now to determine how much is sent to the A U X track. The only 
>>> fader I see is something about a post mix or something fader. When I 
>>> interacted with that and tried turning it from where it was which by 
>>> default was like -100 something odd DB, I find no matter how high I turn 
>>> it, I went all the way to like positive 20.  I still heard nothing. No 
>>> difference. I'm guessing that's either 1, not the right slider, or B, it 
>>> has to do with the fact I routed to an unknown buss with the 7 8.
>>> 
>>> I feel I got a pretty good handle now on what bgusses are, I just more 
>>> specifically in p t from a VO perspective am not getting how to do this, 
>>> nor why the 1 2 they tell me to select in the docs is not showing up.
>>> 
>>> I must say: I'm perplexed.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>> 
> 



Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.

2012-03-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I kept over looking it.  I'm so so sorry.

It had been a long night.  Yes, I found it.  Please don't think I was 
accusing you, as if it was taken that way, I definitely didn't mean for it 
to come across in that manor.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.


Chris,

Did you actually look through the Preferences window? In the Mixing tab, the 
very first checkbox is the one. I don't understand why you couldn't find it. 
well, there it is.


best,

Slau

On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


I don't see that tab anywhere by the way.

Can you get the exact tab it's on, and what exactly it's called?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.


Hi Chris,

The reason you're not seeing bus 1-2 is because it's probably either the 
delay or reverb aux. I don't know why your busses have been named that way 
but that's what's going on. Normally, one can use the pop-up menu in the 
sends to send to a new auxiliary track. Pro Tools then automatically 
creates an Aux track and assigns the proper bus routing and names the bus 
to correspond with the auxiliary track's name. The way you did it is 
essentially the manual way. Just an FYI.


One thing you might want to do to ensure the plug-in is getting signal is 
to set your default send level to unity gain. There's a checkbox in the 
Pro Tools Preferences window, although I can't remember exactly which tab, 
that says something like, "Sends default to inf" which means infinite 
resistance, in other words zero. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked.


HTH,

Slau

On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


OK, this is really strange.

I have two tracks in my project.  One is justan mp3 karaoke track I 
imported.  The other is my vocal track.  So, I added a new stereo track 
on top of having those other two, and set it to a stereo A U X track.


Then, on the vocal track, I interacted with the sends, ond on send A, I 
went to buss sub menu, and was going to route it to 1 2 stereo.  I can't 
though. The only thing I see is things like reverb stereo, delay stereo, 
etc. then I see 7 8 or 7 etc. etc.  I dont' see one 2.  I went ahead and 
said what the heck, route it to 7 8.  I did, then went to the A U X 
track, and set the input path to buss, 7 8.  Again, I'm only doing that 
as I can't find 1 2 anywhere in the buss menu for some weird reason.  If 
it would help you all for me to send you the session, I'd be happy to 
send space it off list so you actually can look at what I did.


The bottom line is, in my A U X track, I assigned on insert A, a reverb 
effect.  Then back on the audio track of my vocal, I hit the send assign 
button with vo+space.  Here's also where I'm really getting stuck. 
According to the documentation, there is supposed to be a fader I can 
move up and down now to determine how much is sent to the A U X track. 
The only fader I see is something about a post mix or something fader. 
When I interacted with that and tried turning it from where it was which 
by default was like -100 something odd DB, I find no matter how high I 
turn it, I went all the way to like positive 20.  I still heard nothing. 
No difference. I'm guessing that's either 1, not the right slider, or B, 
it has to do with the fact I routed to an unknown buss with the 7 8.


I feel I got a pretty good handle now on what bgusses are, I just more 
specifically in p t from a VO perspective am not getting how to do this, 
nor why the 1 2 they tell me to select in the docs is not showing up.


I must say: I'm perplexed.

Chris.






Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.

2012-03-30 Thread Slau Halatyn
As soon as you assign a send to a bus, the window that pops up contains a fader 
named "send Pre/Post Fader."

On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> ok, but if I set that to be unchecked in the prefs, then, once that's done, 
> how then do I find the slider so I can ajust how much signal that A U X 
> track's getting?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.
> 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> The reason you're not seeing bus 1-2 is because it's probably either the 
> delay or reverb aux. I don't know why your busses have been named that way 
> but that's what's going on. Normally, one can use the pop-up menu in the 
> sends to send to a new auxiliary track. Pro Tools then automatically creates 
> an Aux track and assigns the proper bus routing and names the bus to 
> correspond with the auxiliary track's name. The way you did it is essentially 
> the manual way. Just an FYI.
> 
> One thing you might want to do to ensure the plug-in is getting signal is to 
> set your default send level to unity gain. There's a checkbox in the Pro 
> Tools Preferences window, although I can't remember exactly which tab, that 
> says something like, "Sends default to inf" which means infinite resistance, 
> in other words zero. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> OK, this is really strange.
>> 
>> I have two tracks in my project.  One is justan mp3 karaoke track I 
>> imported.  The other is my vocal track.  So, I added a new stereo track on 
>> top of having those other two, and set it to a stereo A U X track.
>> 
>> Then, on the vocal track, I interacted with the sends, ond on send A, I went 
>> to buss sub menu, and was going to route it to 1 2 stereo.  I can't though. 
>> The only thing I see is things like reverb stereo, delay stereo, etc. then I 
>> see 7 8 or 7 etc. etc.  I dont' see one 2.  I went ahead and said what the 
>> heck, route it to 7 8.  I did, then went to the A U X track, and set the 
>> input path to buss, 7 8.  Again, I'm only doing that as I can't find 1 2 
>> anywhere in the buss menu for some weird reason.  If it would help you all 
>> for me to send you the session, I'd be happy to send space it off list so 
>> you actually can look at what I did.
>> 
>> The bottom line is, in my A U X track, I assigned on insert A, a reverb 
>> effect.  Then back on the audio track of my vocal, I hit the send assign 
>> button with vo+space.  Here's also where I'm really getting stuck. According 
>> to the documentation, there is supposed to be a fader I can move up and down 
>> now to determine how much is sent to the A U X track.  The only fader I see 
>> is something about a post mix or something fader.  When I interacted with 
>> that and tried turning it from where it was which by default was like -100 
>> something odd DB, I find no matter how high I turn it, I went all the way to 
>> like positive 20.  I still heard nothing.  No difference. I'm guessing 
>> that's either 1, not the right slider, or B, it has to do with the fact I 
>> routed to an unknown buss with the 7 8.
>> 
>> I feel I got a pretty good handle now on what bgusses are, I just more 
>> specifically in p t from a VO perspective am not getting how to do this, nor 
>> why the 1 2 they tell me to select in the docs is not showing up.
>> 
>> I must say: I'm perplexed.
>> 
>> Chris.
> 



Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.

2012-03-30 Thread Slau Halatyn
Chris,

Did you actually look through the Preferences window? In the Mixing tab, the 
very first checkbox is the one. I don't understand why you couldn't find it. 
well, there it is.

best,

Slau

On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> I don't see that tab anywhere by the way.
> 
> Can you get the exact tab it's on, and what exactly it's called?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.
> 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> The reason you're not seeing bus 1-2 is because it's probably either the 
> delay or reverb aux. I don't know why your busses have been named that way 
> but that's what's going on. Normally, one can use the pop-up menu in the 
> sends to send to a new auxiliary track. Pro Tools then automatically creates 
> an Aux track and assigns the proper bus routing and names the bus to 
> correspond with the auxiliary track's name. The way you did it is essentially 
> the manual way. Just an FYI.
> 
> One thing you might want to do to ensure the plug-in is getting signal is to 
> set your default send level to unity gain. There's a checkbox in the Pro 
> Tools Preferences window, although I can't remember exactly which tab, that 
> says something like, "Sends default to inf" which means infinite resistance, 
> in other words zero. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> OK, this is really strange.
>> 
>> I have two tracks in my project.  One is justan mp3 karaoke track I 
>> imported.  The other is my vocal track.  So, I added a new stereo track on 
>> top of having those other two, and set it to a stereo A U X track.
>> 
>> Then, on the vocal track, I interacted with the sends, ond on send A, I went 
>> to buss sub menu, and was going to route it to 1 2 stereo.  I can't though. 
>> The only thing I see is things like reverb stereo, delay stereo, etc. then I 
>> see 7 8 or 7 etc. etc.  I dont' see one 2.  I went ahead and said what the 
>> heck, route it to 7 8.  I did, then went to the A U X track, and set the 
>> input path to buss, 7 8.  Again, I'm only doing that as I can't find 1 2 
>> anywhere in the buss menu for some weird reason.  If it would help you all 
>> for me to send you the session, I'd be happy to send space it off list so 
>> you actually can look at what I did.
>> 
>> The bottom line is, in my A U X track, I assigned on insert A, a reverb 
>> effect.  Then back on the audio track of my vocal, I hit the send assign 
>> button with vo+space.  Here's also where I'm really getting stuck. According 
>> to the documentation, there is supposed to be a fader I can move up and down 
>> now to determine how much is sent to the A U X track.  The only fader I see 
>> is something about a post mix or something fader.  When I interacted with 
>> that and tried turning it from where it was which by default was like -100 
>> something odd DB, I find no matter how high I turn it, I went all the way to 
>> like positive 20.  I still heard nothing.  No difference. I'm guessing 
>> that's either 1, not the right slider, or B, it has to do with the fact I 
>> routed to an unknown buss with the 7 8.
>> 
>> I feel I got a pretty good handle now on what bgusses are, I just more 
>> specifically in p t from a VO perspective am not getting how to do this, nor 
>> why the 1 2 they tell me to select in the docs is not showing up.
>> 
>> I must say: I'm perplexed.
>> 
>> Chris.
> 



Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.

2012-03-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I don't see that tab anywhere by the way.

Can you get the exact tab it's on, and what exactly it's called?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.


Hi Chris,

The reason you're not seeing bus 1-2 is because it's probably either the 
delay or reverb aux. I don't know why your busses have been named that way 
but that's what's going on. Normally, one can use the pop-up menu in the 
sends to send to a new auxiliary track. Pro Tools then automatically creates 
an Aux track and assigns the proper bus routing and names the bus to 
correspond with the auxiliary track's name. The way you did it is 
essentially the manual way. Just an FYI.


One thing you might want to do to ensure the plug-in is getting signal is to 
set your default send level to unity gain. There's a checkbox in the Pro 
Tools Preferences window, although I can't remember exactly which tab, that 
says something like, "Sends default to inf" which means infinite resistance, 
in other words zero. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked.


HTH,

Slau

On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


OK, this is really strange.

I have two tracks in my project.  One is justan mp3 karaoke track I 
imported.  The other is my vocal track.  So, I added a new stereo track on 
top of having those other two, and set it to a stereo A U X track.


Then, on the vocal track, I interacted with the sends, ond on send A, I 
went to buss sub menu, and was going to route it to 1 2 stereo.  I can't 
though. The only thing I see is things like reverb stereo, delay stereo, 
etc. then I see 7 8 or 7 etc. etc.  I dont' see one 2.  I went ahead and 
said what the heck, route it to 7 8.  I did, then went to the A U X track, 
and set the input path to buss, 7 8.  Again, I'm only doing that as I 
can't find 1 2 anywhere in the buss menu for some weird reason.  If it 
would help you all for me to send you the session, I'd be happy to send 
space it off list so you actually can look at what I did.


The bottom line is, in my A U X track, I assigned on insert A, a reverb 
effect.  Then back on the audio track of my vocal, I hit the send assign 
button with vo+space.  Here's also where I'm really getting stuck. 
According to the documentation, there is supposed to be a fader I can move 
up and down now to determine how much is sent to the A U X track.  The 
only fader I see is something about a post mix or something fader.  When I 
interacted with that and tried turning it from where it was which by 
default was like -100 something odd DB, I find no matter how high I turn 
it, I went all the way to like positive 20.  I still heard nothing.  No 
difference. I'm guessing that's either 1, not the right slider, or B, it 
has to do with the fact I routed to an unknown buss with the 7 8.


I feel I got a pretty good handle now on what bgusses are, I just more 
specifically in p t from a VO perspective am not getting how to do this, 
nor why the 1 2 they tell me to select in the docs is not showing up.


I must say: I'm perplexed.

Chris.




Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.

2012-03-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ok, but if I set that to be unchecked in the prefs, then, once that's done, 
how then do I find the slider so I can ajust how much signal that A U X 
track's getting?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.


Hi Chris,

The reason you're not seeing bus 1-2 is because it's probably either the 
delay or reverb aux. I don't know why your busses have been named that way 
but that's what's going on. Normally, one can use the pop-up menu in the 
sends to send to a new auxiliary track. Pro Tools then automatically creates 
an Aux track and assigns the proper bus routing and names the bus to 
correspond with the auxiliary track's name. The way you did it is 
essentially the manual way. Just an FYI.


One thing you might want to do to ensure the plug-in is getting signal is to 
set your default send level to unity gain. There's a checkbox in the Pro 
Tools Preferences window, although I can't remember exactly which tab, that 
says something like, "Sends default to inf" which means infinite resistance, 
in other words zero. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked.


HTH,

Slau

On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


OK, this is really strange.

I have two tracks in my project.  One is justan mp3 karaoke track I 
imported.  The other is my vocal track.  So, I added a new stereo track on 
top of having those other two, and set it to a stereo A U X track.


Then, on the vocal track, I interacted with the sends, ond on send A, I 
went to buss sub menu, and was going to route it to 1 2 stereo.  I can't 
though. The only thing I see is things like reverb stereo, delay stereo, 
etc. then I see 7 8 or 7 etc. etc.  I dont' see one 2.  I went ahead and 
said what the heck, route it to 7 8.  I did, then went to the A U X track, 
and set the input path to buss, 7 8.  Again, I'm only doing that as I 
can't find 1 2 anywhere in the buss menu for some weird reason.  If it 
would help you all for me to send you the session, I'd be happy to send 
space it off list so you actually can look at what I did.


The bottom line is, in my A U X track, I assigned on insert A, a reverb 
effect.  Then back on the audio track of my vocal, I hit the send assign 
button with vo+space.  Here's also where I'm really getting stuck. 
According to the documentation, there is supposed to be a fader I can move 
up and down now to determine how much is sent to the A U X track.  The 
only fader I see is something about a post mix or something fader.  When I 
interacted with that and tried turning it from where it was which by 
default was like -100 something odd DB, I find no matter how high I turn 
it, I went all the way to like positive 20.  I still heard nothing.  No 
difference. I'm guessing that's either 1, not the right slider, or B, it 
has to do with the fact I routed to an unknown buss with the 7 8.


I feel I got a pretty good handle now on what bgusses are, I just more 
specifically in p t from a VO perspective am not getting how to do this, 
nor why the 1 2 they tell me to select in the docs is not showing up.


I must say: I'm perplexed.

Chris.




Re: I've read, but still dont' totally get this.

2012-03-29 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Chris,

The reason you're not seeing bus 1-2 is because it's probably either the delay 
or reverb aux. I don't know why your busses have been named that way but that's 
what's going on. Normally, one can use the pop-up menu in the sends to send to 
a new auxiliary track. Pro Tools then automatically creates an Aux track and 
assigns the proper bus routing and names the bus to correspond with the 
auxiliary track's name. The way you did it is essentially the manual way. Just 
an FYI.

One thing you might want to do to ensure the plug-in is getting signal is to 
set your default send level to unity gain. There's a checkbox in the Pro Tools 
Preferences window, although I can't remember exactly which tab, that says 
something like, "Sends default to inf" which means infinite resistance, in 
other words zero. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked.

HTH,

Slau
 
On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> OK, this is really strange.
> 
> I have two tracks in my project.  One is justan mp3 karaoke track I imported. 
>  The other is my vocal track.  So, I added a new stereo track on top of 
> having those other two, and set it to a stereo A U X track.
> 
> Then, on the vocal track, I interacted with the sends, ond on send A, I went 
> to buss sub menu, and was going to route it to 1 2 stereo.  I can't though. 
> The only thing I see is things like reverb stereo, delay stereo, etc. then I 
> see 7 8 or 7 etc. etc.  I dont' see one 2.  I went ahead and said what the 
> heck, route it to 7 8.  I did, then went to the A U X track, and set the 
> input path to buss, 7 8.  Again, I'm only doing that as I can't find 1 2 
> anywhere in the buss menu for some weird reason.  If it would help you all 
> for me to send you the session, I'd be happy to send space it off list so you 
> actually can look at what I did.
> 
> The bottom line is, in my A U X track, I assigned on insert A, a reverb 
> effect.  Then back on the audio track of my vocal, I hit the send assign 
> button with vo+space.  Here's also where I'm really getting stuck. According 
> to the documentation, there is supposed to be a fader I can move up and down 
> now to determine how much is sent to the A U X track.  The only fader I see 
> is something about a post mix or something fader.  When I interacted with 
> that and tried turning it from where it was which by default was like -100 
> something odd DB, I find no matter how high I turn it, I went all the way to 
> like positive 20.  I still heard nothing.  No difference. I'm guessing that's 
> either 1, not the right slider, or B, it has to do with the fact I routed to 
> an unknown buss with the 7 8.
> 
> I feel I got a pretty good handle now on what bgusses are, I just more 
> specifically in p t from a VO perspective am not getting how to do this, nor 
> why the 1 2 they tell me to select in the docs is not showing up.
> 
> I must say: I'm perplexed.
> 
> Chris. 



I've read, but still dont' totally get this.

2012-03-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

OK, this is really strange.

I have two tracks in my project.  One is justan mp3 karaoke track I 
imported.  The other is my vocal track.  So, I added a new stereo track on 
top of having those other two, and set it to a stereo A U X track.


Then, on the vocal track, I interacted with the sends, ond on send A, I went 
to buss sub menu, and was going to route it to 1 2 stereo.  I can't though. 
The only thing I see is things like reverb stereo, delay stereo, etc. then I 
see 7 8 or 7 etc. etc.  I dont' see one 2.  I went ahead and said what the 
heck, route it to 7 8.  I did, then went to the A U X track, and set the 
input path to buss, 7 8.  Again, I'm only doing that as I can't find 1 2 
anywhere in the buss menu for some weird reason.  If it would help you all 
for me to send you the session, I'd be happy to send space it off list so 
you actually can look at what I did.


The bottom line is, in my A U X track, I assigned on insert A, a reverb 
effect.  Then back on the audio track of my vocal, I hit the send assign 
button with vo+space.  Here's also where I'm really getting stuck. 
According to the documentation, there is supposed to be a fader I can move 
up and down now to determine how much is sent to the A U X track.  The only 
fader I see is something about a post mix or something fader.  When I 
interacted with that and tried turning it from where it was which by default 
was like -100 something odd DB, I find no matter how high I turn it, I went 
all the way to like positive 20.  I still heard nothing.  No difference. 
I'm guessing that's either 1, not the right slider, or B, it has to do with 
the fact I routed to an unknown buss with the 7 8.


I feel I got a pretty good handle now on what bgusses are, I just more 
specifically in p t from a VO perspective am not getting how to do this, nor 
why the 1 2 they tell me to select in the docs is not showing up.


I must say: I'm perplexed.

Chris.