Re: Key command to show tracks with data?

2013-01-28 Thread Chris Norman
Ah, cheers for that. The track name usually gives an indication of the 
existance, and I work so much with them, I usually work on the assumption that 
if its got a funny name, there's audio there somewhere lol. 

Cheers,

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Jan 2013, at 18:28, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, that's a sure way to know. One thing to consider is that, if there are 
 underlying playlists with data, the topmost playlist might not actually 
 contain anything and one would still get that dialog. In other words, there's 
 an exception to be aware of in this case. barring the playlist variable, 
 deleting the track would most certainly bring up the dialog warning about 
 active regions.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Chris Norman wrote:
 
 Another slightly dirty way to do it, if you've got an audio track with
 data on it, a MIDI track with MIDI on it, etc, is right click it in
 the track table and go to delete. If it's got stuff on it, it'll ask
 you to confirm. I suspect it's undoable if not, but I'm not sure.
 
 HTH,
 
 On 26/01/2013, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a reference.
 You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not name
 them  as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that
 says, Has Data or No Data. I just have to be more aware of what tracks I
 have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them.
 Thanks
 - Original Message -
 From: Slau Halatyn
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data?
 
 
 Hi Nate,
 
 
 Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit
 window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you
 can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd
 consider these steps increasing in verification:
 1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while
 the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most
 straight-forward way.
 2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press
 the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads
 anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides
 in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session
 or further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab
 and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means
 there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads
 zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the
 beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and
 select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where
 the clip resides by reading the counter display.
 
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 
 Slau
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
 
 
   Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have
 any data?
   Thanks
   Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing,
 Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com
 
 
 
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Re: Key command to show tracks with data?

2013-01-27 Thread Poppa Bear

Thank you for that tip as well Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data?



Another slightly dirty way to do it, if you've got an audio track with
data on it, a MIDI track with MIDI on it, etc, is right click it in
the track table and go to delete. If it's got stuff on it, it'll ask
you to confirm. I suspect it's undoable if not, but I'm not sure.

HTH,

On 26/01/2013, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a 
reference.
You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not 
name

them  as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that
says, Has Data or No Data. I just have to be more aware of what 
tracks I

have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them.
Thanks
  - Original Message -
  From: Slau Halatyn
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data?


  Hi Nate,


  Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the 
Edit

window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you
can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd
consider these steps increasing in verification:
  1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while
the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most
straight-forward way.
  2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, 
press

the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads
anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something 
resides
in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the 
session

or further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab
and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that 
means
there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it 
reads
zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to 
the
beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to 
and
select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see 
where

the clip resides by reading the counter display.


  Hope that helps,


  Slau




  On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:


Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks 
have

any data?
Thanks
Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing,
Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com



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Re: Key command to show tracks with data?

2013-01-27 Thread Chris Norman
No worries.
If you can use the others, you're probably best off doing that, I'm
just a creature of habbit, and when I was learning, that was the most
ifficient way I found to make the magic happen!

Have fun,

On 27/01/2013, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you for that tip as well Chris.
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data?


 Another slightly dirty way to do it, if you've got an audio track with
 data on it, a MIDI track with MIDI on it, etc, is right click it in
 the track table and go to delete. If it's got stuff on it, it'll ask
 you to confirm. I suspect it's undoable if not, but I'm not sure.

 HTH,

 On 26/01/2013, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a
 reference.
 You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not
 name
 them  as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that
 says, Has Data or No Data. I just have to be more aware of what
 tracks I
 have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them.
 Thanks
   - Original Message -
   From: Slau Halatyn
   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM
   Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data?


   Hi Nate,


   Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the
 Edit
 window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what
 you
 can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd
 consider these steps increasing in verification:
   1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track
 while
 the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most
 straight-forward way.
   2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected,
 press
 the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads
 anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something
 resides
 in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the
 session
 or further in, go to the start of the session and press
 Control-Shift-Tab
 and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that
 means
 there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it
 reads
 zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to

 the
 beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to
 and
 select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see
 where
 the clip resides by reading the counter display.


   Hope that helps,


   Slau




   On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:


 Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks
 have
 any data?
 Thanks
 Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing,
 Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com



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 Take care,

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Re: Key command to show tracks with data?

2013-01-27 Thread Slau Halatyn
For a scripted screen reader, that's a nice feature for feedback. I suppose 
that kind of thing is important if you use pre-configured templates and don't 
use all the tracks. I never use templates and personally feel they lock you in 
too early on. Unless one really tends to do the exact same same type of session 
every time, I feel they are actually a waste of time. I've never done the same 
type of session twice with the exception, perhaps of a soloist with piano 
accompaniment. In any case, it's elementary to create as many tracks as one 
needs in a matter of seconds. I tend not to track with plug-ins and setting up 
headphone routings is easy.

I'm sure there are folks on the list who will swear that templates are the only 
way to go. I won't argue because there's no point. I know what works for me and 
for most of my colleagues and, as they say, to each, his own.

Oh, bTW, when I was referring to those steps with tabbing and checking 
counters, one thing to remember is, if the track display is set to show 
something other than waveform like volume, pan or mute, etc., tabbing will 
propel the insertion point to the next such event  like a mute on or mute off. 
So, if there are no other events like volume automation and such, tabbing won't 
move to any region boundaries as it does when waveforms are being displayed. 
Just something to keep in mind. That burned me once.

best,

Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

 It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a reference. 
 You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not name 
 them  as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that 
 says, Has Data or No Data. I just have to be more aware of what tracks I 
 have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them.
 Thanks
 - Original Message -
 From: Slau Halatyn
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data?
 
 Hi Nate,
 
 Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit 
 window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you can 
 do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd consider 
 these steps increasing in verification:
 1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while the 
 transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most 
 straight-forward way.
 2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press the 
 Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads anything 
 other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides in the 
 track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session or 
 further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab and 
 look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means 
 there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads 
 zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the 
 beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and 
 select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where 
 the clip resides by reading the counter display.
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 Slau
 
 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
 
 Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have any 
 data?
 Thanks
 Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering 
 and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com
 
 
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Re: Key command to show tracks with data?

2013-01-27 Thread Poppa Bear
Thanks again. I am learning that it is give and take when going back and forth 
between two DAWS. Some stuff I like about Sonar better and some stuff I like 
about PT better. Right now I just want to give PT a fare shot so I am trying to 
finish the rest of this next projects tracking, and mixing all in PT so that I 
can get more used to the workflow. Both Sonar and PT seem to be in a crusial 
point right now as far as accesibility, Sonar has not had a fully accessibil 
platform since 8.5 and they are on x2 now and PT seems to be wavering on some 
features sence 9 series from what I can tell. I am trying to keep my finger on 
the pulse of both as they progress through their vallies.
Thanks again
  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data?


  For a scripted screen reader, that's a nice feature for feedback. I suppose 
that kind of thing is important if you use pre-configured templates and don't 
use all the tracks. I never use templates and personally feel they lock you in 
too early on. Unless one really tends to do the exact same same type of session 
every time, I feel they are actually a waste of time. I've never done the same 
type of session twice with the exception, perhaps of a soloist with piano 
accompaniment. In any case, it's elementary to create as many tracks as one 
needs in a matter of seconds. I tend not to track with plug-ins and setting up 
headphone routings is easy.


  I'm sure there are folks on the list who will swear that templates are the 
only way to go. I won't argue because there's no point. I know what works for 
me and for most of my colleagues and, as they say, to each, his own.


  Oh, bTW, when I was referring to those steps with tabbing and checking 
counters, one thing to remember is, if the track display is set to show 
something other than waveform like volume, pan or mute, etc., tabbing will 
propel the insertion point to the next such event  like a mute on or mute off. 
So, if there are no other events like volume automation and such, tabbing won't 
move to any region boundaries as it does when waveforms are being displayed. 
Just something to keep in mind. That burned me once.


  best,


  Slau


  On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:


It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a reference. 
You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not name 
them  as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that says, 
Has Data or No Data. I just have to be more aware of what tracks I have 
used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them.
Thanks
  - Original Message -
  From: Slau Halatyn
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data?


  Hi Nate,


  Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the 
Edit window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you 
can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd consider 
these steps increasing in verification:
  1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while 
the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most 
straight-forward way.
  2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press 
the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads 
anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides in 
the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session or 
further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab and look 
at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means there's a 
clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads zero, the 
first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the beginning of 
the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and select the first 
clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where the clip resides by 
reading the counter display.


  Hope that helps,


  Slau




  On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:


Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks 
have any data?
Thanks
Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, 
Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com




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Key command to show tracks with data?

2013-01-26 Thread Poppa Bear
Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have any 
data?
Thanks
Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and 
all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com

Re: Key command to show tracks with data?

2013-01-26 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Nate,

Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit 
window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you can 
do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd consider these 
steps increasing in verification:
1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while the 
transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most straight-forward 
way.
2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press the 
Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads anything 
other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides in the 
track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session or further 
in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab and look at the 
Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means there's a clip 
which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads zero, the first 
clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the beginning of the 
session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and select the first clip 
in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where the clip resides by 
reading the counter display.

Hope that helps,

Slau


On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

 Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have any 
 data?
 Thanks
 Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering 
 and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com

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Re: Key command to show tracks with data?

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Norman
Another slightly dirty way to do it, if you've got an audio track with
data on it, a MIDI track with MIDI on it, etc, is right click it in
the track table and go to delete. If it's got stuff on it, it'll ask
you to confirm. I suspect it's undoable if not, but I'm not sure.

HTH,

On 26/01/2013, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 It does help and I will stick this message in my PT folder for a reference.
 You see in Sonar, I may start off with 24 tracks and get lazey and not name
 them  as I go along, but there is an alert as you move to any track that
 says, Has Data or No Data. I just have to be more aware of what tracks I
 have used and not be lazy when it comes to naming them.
 Thanks
   - Original Message -
   From: Slau Halatyn
   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:24 PM
   Subject: Re: Key command to show tracks with data?


   Hi Nate,


   Since a sighted user would simply look at the waveform display in the Edit
 window, there's no command in Pro Tools for such a thing. Here's what you
 can do to verify whether there's something in an audio track and I'd
 consider these steps increasing in verification:
   1. For a track that is not part of a group, simply solo the track while
 the transport is engaged. That's, of course, the simplest and most
 straight-forward way.
   2. Go to the beginning of the session and, with the track selected, press
 the Tab key. check the start field or Main Counter display. If it reads
 anything other than bar 1, beat 1 or 0 seconds, that means something resides
 in the track. To verify whether the clip is at the beginning of the session
 or further in, go to the start of the session and press Control-Shift-Tab
 and look at the Length field. If it reads anything other than 0, that means
 there's a clip which begins right at the start of the session. If it reads
 zero, the first clip begins at some point after 0. Press Return to go to the
 beginning of the session and then press Control-Tab. This will move to and
 select the first clip in the timeline. Now you can take a look to see where
 the clip resides by reading the counter display.


   Hope that helps,


   Slau




   On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:


 Is there a VO or PT command key stroke to show if a track or tracks have
 any data?
 Thanks
 Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing,
 Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com



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Take care,

Chris Norman.

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