Re: FloTools MIDI editing - why doesn't it work?

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi John,

If I’m not mistaken, we took that feature out when Pro Tools updated it’s 
method of editing MIDI with keyboard shortcuts. Also, since we added the 
velocity and pitch macros and you can use standard commands for editing length, 
moving beginnings and endings, etc., it seemed superfluous. True, it’s still a 
different matter to edit controller data but that’s a slightly different topic. 
HTH,
Slau


> On Jan 6, 2024, at 9:45 AM, 'John André Lium-Netland' via Pro Tools 
> Accessibility  wrote:
> 
> Hi, since nobody responded on this question, I ‘ll try again… :).
> 
> Long ago, I think it was way back in FloTools 2.2, a way to edit MIDI notes 
> was announced. I got it to work back then, but after some time it stopped to 
> work for me. But after being so frustrated by the hard way Pro Tools works 
> with VO when it comes to MIDI editing, I remember those FloTools features. 
>> 
>> I have tried to make it work again today, but with no luck.
>> 
>> Shortcuts like control left arrow and right arrow to focus on a MIDI value 
>> ,in the MIDI event list, as well as control-command-return to edit a 
>> specific value does not work.
>> 
>> Any suggestions or advices.
>> 
>> I did try to consolidate the MIDI track first with no better result, but do 
>> I really need to do that for every track? It’s ok for me to work in the MIDI 
>> event list if I can get this to work. 
>> 
>> I do not have to be able to close the MIDI event list to be satisfied. I 
>> just want to edit easier than I currently is able to in the MIDI event list..
>> 
>> Best,
>> John André
>> 
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Fwd: FloTools MIDI editing - why doesn't it work?

['John André Lium-Netland' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

Hi, since nobody responded on this question, I ‘ll try again… :).

Long ago, I think it was way back in FloTools 2.2, a way to edit MIDI notes was 
announced. I got it to work back then, but after some time it stopped to work 
for me. But after being so frustrated by the hard way Pro Tools works with VO 
when it comes to MIDI editing, I remember those FloTools features. 
> 
> I have tried to make it work again today, but with no luck.
> 
> Shortcuts like control left arrow and right arrow to focus on a MIDI value 
> ,in the MIDI event list, as well as control-command-return to edit a specific 
> value does not work.
> 
> Any suggestions or advices.
> 
> I did try to consolidate the MIDI track first with no better result, but do I 
> really need to do that for every track? It’s ok for me to work in the MIDI 
> event list if I can get this to work. 
> 
> I do not have to be able to close the MIDI event list to be satisfied. I just 
> want to edit easier than I currently is able to in the MIDI event list..
> 
> Best,
> John André
> 

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FloTools MIDI editing - why doesn't it work?

['John André Lium-Netland' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

Hi,

Ong ago, I think it was way back in FloTools 2.2, a way to edit MIDI notes was 
announced. I got it to work back then, but after some time it stopped to work 
for me. But after being so frustrated by the hard way Pro Tools works with VO 
when it comes to MIDI editing, I remember those FloTools features. 

I have tried to make it work again today, but with no luck.

Shortcuts like control left arrow and right arrow to focus on a MIDI value ,in 
the MIDI event list, as well as control-command-return to edit a specific value 
does not work.

Any suggestions or advices.

I did try to consolidate the MIDI track first with no better result, but do I 
really need to do that for every track? It’s ok for me to work in the MIDI 
event list if I can get this to work. 

I do not have to be able to close the MIDI event list to be satisfied. I just 
want to edit easier than I currently is able to in the MIDI event list..

Best,
John André

 

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Re: Midi Editing

[Rory McDonald]

Sorry, my mistake. Got the number right anyway though, lol.

Rory

> On Sep 11, 2020, at 7:09 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rory,
> 
> The memory locates window command is "Command num pad 5"
> Just hit the same command again to close it also.
> HTH
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 1:08 AM, Rory McDonald wrote:
>> 
>> I believe the memory window shortcut is option 5 on the numpad. In there 
>> theres a clear memory locations button.
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>>>> On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Janne Svensson  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 2020-09-09 16:34 GMT+02:00, Rory McDonald :
>>>> If your using Flow Tools, hit F1 twice to go into shuffle mode, go to the
>>>> spot in the session you would like to paste and drop it there. If all goes
>>>> well it should have no problems.
>>>> Alternatively, I believe you could get in shuffle mode, then, assuming the
>>>> section you'd like to paste is selected, hit command D and have it
>>>> duplicated.
>>>> I'm not sure if you plan to record more drums there on that same track
>>>> afterwards, but if not and you can do this, I often find for whatever 
>>>> reason
>>>> that committing instrument tracks to audio before doing any editing like
>>>> that makes it go smoother than not, sometimes notes move around weirdly
>>>> where they shouldn't, might just be on my end for some reason though. 
>>>> Anyway
>>>> though hope this helps at least somewhat.
>>>> 
>>>> Rory
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 5:44 AM, Janne Svensson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a problem and I will try to explain it easy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have selected 2 bars of a drumtrack and would like to paste it in
>>>>> the middle of this track to make a part 2 bars longer. Can anyone
>>>>> explain how to do this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I want to keep Everything at the right of the insetion Point and just
>>>>> move it 2 bars forward. Hope you understand my question.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Med vänlig hälsning
>>>>> Janne Svensson
>>>>> Tel: +46-(0)702-60 52 04
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>>> 
>>> Hello Rory!
>>> 
>>> Thank you for this tip. It worked after a while. Now I underständ what
>>> these different edit modes are. I have one more question and this is
>>> not only in midi editing. If I want to clear all memory locations, is
>>> there a shortcut or somewhere in menus i can clear all locations?
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>>> 
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Re: Midi Editing

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Rory,

The memory locates window command is "Command num pad 5"
Just hit the same command again to close it also.
HTH
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Sep 11, 2020, at 1:08 AM, Rory McDonald wrote:

> I believe the memory window shortcut is option 5 on the numpad. In there 
> theres a clear memory locations button.
> 
> Rory
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Janne Svensson  wrote:
>> 
>> 2020-09-09 16:34 GMT+02:00, Rory McDonald :
>>> If your using Flow Tools, hit F1 twice to go into shuffle mode, go to the
>>> spot in the session you would like to paste and drop it there. If all goes
>>> well it should have no problems.
>>> Alternatively, I believe you could get in shuffle mode, then, assuming the
>>> section you'd like to paste is selected, hit command D and have it
>>> duplicated.
>>> I'm not sure if you plan to record more drums there on that same track
>>> afterwards, but if not and you can do this, I often find for whatever reason
>>> that committing instrument tracks to audio before doing any editing like
>>> that makes it go smoother than not, sometimes notes move around weirdly
>>> where they shouldn't, might just be on my end for some reason though. Anyway
>>> though hope this helps at least somewhat.
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 5:44 AM, Janne Svensson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello list.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a problem and I will try to explain it easy.
>>>> 
>>>> I have selected 2 bars of a drumtrack and would like to paste it in
>>>> the middle of this track to make a part 2 bars longer. Can anyone
>>>> explain how to do this?
>>>> 
>>>> I want to keep Everything at the right of the insetion Point and just
>>>> move it 2 bars forward. Hope you understand my question.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Med vänlig hälsning
>>>> Janne Svensson
>>>> Tel: +46-(0)702-60 52 04
>>>> 
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>> 
>> Hello Rory!
>> 
>> Thank you for this tip. It worked after a while. Now I underständ what
>> these different edit modes are. I have one more question and this is
>> not only in midi editing. If I want to clear all memory locations, is
>> there a shortcut or somewhere in menus i can clear all locations?
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>> Med vänlig hälsning
>> Janne Svensson
>> Tel: +46-(0)702-60 52 04
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Re: Midi Editing

[Rory McDonald]

I believe the memory window shortcut is option 5 on the numpad. In there theres 
a clear memory locations button.

Rory

> On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Janne Svensson  wrote:
> 
> 2020-09-09 16:34 GMT+02:00, Rory McDonald :
>> If your using Flow Tools, hit F1 twice to go into shuffle mode, go to the
>> spot in the session you would like to paste and drop it there. If all goes
>> well it should have no problems.
>> Alternatively, I believe you could get in shuffle mode, then, assuming the
>> section you'd like to paste is selected, hit command D and have it
>> duplicated.
>> I'm not sure if you plan to record more drums there on that same track
>> afterwards, but if not and you can do this, I often find for whatever reason
>> that committing instrument tracks to audio before doing any editing like
>> that makes it go smoother than not, sometimes notes move around weirdly
>> where they shouldn't, might just be on my end for some reason though. Anyway
>> though hope this helps at least somewhat.
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 5:44 AM, Janne Svensson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello list.
>>> 
>>> I have a problem and I will try to explain it easy.
>>> 
>>> I have selected 2 bars of a drumtrack and would like to paste it in
>>> the middle of this track to make a part 2 bars longer. Can anyone
>>> explain how to do this?
>>> 
>>> I want to keep Everything at the right of the insetion Point and just
>>> move it 2 bars forward. Hope you understand my question.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Med vänlig hälsning
>>> Janne Svensson
>>> Tel: +46-(0)702-60 52 04
>>> 
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> 
> Hello Rory!
> 
> Thank you for this tip. It worked after a while. Now I underständ what
> these different edit modes are. I have one more question and this is
> not only in midi editing. If I want to clear all memory locations, is
> there a shortcut or somewhere in menus i can clear all locations?
> -- 
> 
> 
> Med vänlig hälsning
> Janne Svensson
> Tel: +46-(0)702-60 52 04
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Re: Midi Editing

[Janne Svensson]

2020-09-09 16:34 GMT+02:00, Rory McDonald :
> If your using Flow Tools, hit F1 twice to go into shuffle mode, go to the
> spot in the session you would like to paste and drop it there. If all goes
> well it should have no problems.
> Alternatively, I believe you could get in shuffle mode, then, assuming the
> section you'd like to paste is selected, hit command D and have it
> duplicated.
> I'm not sure if you plan to record more drums there on that same track
> afterwards, but if not and you can do this, I often find for whatever reason
> that committing instrument tracks to audio before doing any editing like
> that makes it go smoother than not, sometimes notes move around weirdly
> where they shouldn't, might just be on my end for some reason though. Anyway
> though hope this helps at least somewhat.
>
> Rory
>
>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 5:44 AM, Janne Svensson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello list.
>>
>> I have a problem and I will try to explain it easy.
>>
>> I have selected 2 bars of a drumtrack and would like to paste it in
>> the middle of this track to make a part 2 bars longer. Can anyone
>> explain how to do this?
>>
>> I want to keep Everything at the right of the insetion Point and just
>> move it 2 bars forward. Hope you understand my question.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --
>>
>>
>> Med vänlig hälsning
>> Janne Svensson
>> Tel: +46-(0)702-60 52 04
>>
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Hello Rory!

Thank you for this tip. It worked after a while. Now I underständ what
these different edit modes are. I have one more question and this is
not only in midi editing. If I want to clear all memory locations, is
there a shortcut or somewhere in menus i can clear all locations?
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Re: Midi Editing

[Rory McDonald]

If your using Flow Tools, hit F1 twice to go into shuffle mode, go to the spot 
in the session you would like to paste and drop it there. If all goes well it 
should have no problems.
Alternatively, I believe you could get in shuffle mode, then, assuming the 
section you'd like to paste is selected, hit command D and have it duplicated.
I'm not sure if you plan to record more drums there on that same track 
afterwards, but if not and you can do this, I often find for whatever reason 
that committing instrument tracks to audio before doing any editing like that 
makes it go smoother than not, sometimes notes move around weirdly where they 
shouldn't, might just be on my end for some reason though. Anyway though hope 
this helps at least somewhat.

Rory

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 5:44 AM, Janne Svensson  wrote:
> 
> Hello list.
> 
> I have a problem and I will try to explain it easy.
> 
> I have selected 2 bars of a drumtrack and would like to paste it in
> the middle of this track to make a part 2 bars longer. Can anyone
> explain how to do this?
> 
> I want to keep Everything at the right of the insetion Point and just
> move it 2 bars forward. Hope you understand my question.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> -- 
> 
> 
> Med vänlig hälsning
> Janne Svensson
> Tel: +46-(0)702-60 52 04
> 
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Midi Editing

[Janne Svensson]

Hello list.

I have a problem and I will try to explain it easy.

I have selected 2 bars of a drumtrack and would like to paste it in
the middle of this track to make a part 2 bars longer. Can anyone
explain how to do this?

I want to keep Everything at the right of the insetion Point and just
move it 2 bars forward. Hope you understand my question.

Thanks in advance.
-- 


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Janne Svensson
Tel: +46-(0)702-60 52 04

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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Gordon Kent]

Oh I certainly understand that this was just a 
quick overview sort of thing.  I guess I should have presented it as an 
additional feature.  I did learn about that command H thing.  I was running 
into that problem of the table not updating.  And the filter is also handy.  
When I am playing a piano part, I often am constantly pressing and releasing 
the sustain pedal, a throwback to my classical training I guess.
Gord

From: Slau Halatyn 
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 9:15 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and 
Pro Tools

Hi Gord, 

Yes, that’s correct but I couldn’t possibly cover everything and this was not 
any sort of official tutorial. It was simply a basic run-through as per a 
request by Jason Dasent on how to use the MIDI Event List. Thanks for pointing 
that out for others. Cheers,
Slau

  On Sep 3, 2016, at 8:35 PM, Gordon Kent  wrote:

  Slau, I’m surprised you didn’t point out that it is 
possible to select noncontiguous events.  If I’ve made a few flubs and want to 
delete them, I can select those noncontiguous events just like we can select 
tracks in the table.  I’ve never tired it, but it might be possible to set a 
bunch of notes to the same velocity or length  that way.
  Gord

  From: Slau Halatyn 
  Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 10:46 AM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and 
Pro Tools

  Here it is: 
  
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5gzsrdcreww5e/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a?dl=1

  Please save it. I can’t hold on to these things too long.
  Slau

On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:29 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Sir slau, did u remove the file? I need it plzz. Thanks so much 


Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:


  Many thanks Slau. 

  Ronald

Op 9 aug. 2016, om 04:53 heeft Slau Halatyn  het 
volgende geschreven:

A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using primarily 
the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so that, when 
others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the list. 


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip

Best,

Slau


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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Gord,

Yes, that’s correct but I couldn’t possibly cover everything and this was not 
any sort of official tutorial. It was simply a basic run-through as per a 
request by Jason Dasent on how to use the MIDI Event List. Thanks for pointing 
that out for others. Cheers,
Slau

> On Sep 3, 2016, at 8:35 PM, Gordon Kent  wrote:
> 
> Slau, I’m surprised you didn’t point out that it is 
> possible to select noncontiguous events.  If I’ve made a few flubs and want 
> to delete them, I can select those noncontiguous events just like we can 
> select tracks in the table.  I’ve never tired it, but it might be possible to 
> set a bunch of notes to the same velocity or length  that way.
> Gord
>  
> From: Slau Halatyn <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 10:46 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and 
> Pro Tools
>  
> Here it is:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5gzsrdcreww5e/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a?dl=1
>  
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5gzsrdcreww5e/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a?dl=1>
>  
> Please save it. I can’t hold on to these things too long.
> Slau
>  
>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:29 AM, Ramy Moustafa > <mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Sir slau, did u remove the file? I need it plzz. Thanks so much 
>> 
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> Musicc instructor at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn > <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Many thanks Slau.
>>>  
>>> Ronald
>>>  
>>>> Op 9 aug. 2016, om 04:53 heeft Slau Halatyn >>> <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>  
>>>> A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
>>>> recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using 
>>>> primarily the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so 
>>>> that, when others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the 
>>>> list.
>>>>  
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip
>>>>  
>>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip>
>>>>  
>>>> Best,
>>>>  
>>>> Slau
>>>>  
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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Gordon Kent]

Slau, I’m surprised you didn’t point out that it is 
possible to select noncontiguous events.  If I’ve made a few flubs and want to 
delete them, I can select those noncontiguous events just like we can select 
tracks in the table.  I’ve never tired it, but it might be possible to set a 
bunch of notes to the same velocity or length  that way.
Gord

From: Slau Halatyn 
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 10:46 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and 
Pro Tools

Here it is: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5gzsrdcreww5e/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a?dl=1

Please save it. I can’t hold on to these things too long.
Slau

  On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:29 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

  Sir slau, did u remove the file? I need it plzz. Thanks so much 


  Ramy moustafa saber
  Musicc instructor at:
  faculty of musical education
  music arranger and sound engineer
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:


Many thanks Slau. 

Ronald

  Op 9 aug. 2016, om 04:53 heeft Slau Halatyn  het 
volgende geschreven:

  A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using primarily 
the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so that, when 
others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the list. 

  
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip

  Best,

  Slau


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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Rui Vilarinho]

Cool... thanks for sharing!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 3:46 PM
  Subject: Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and 
Pro Tools


  Here it is:
  
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5gzsrdcreww5e/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a?dl=1


  Please save it. I can’t hold on to these things too long.
  Slau


On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:29 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:


Sir slau, did u remove the file? I need it plzz. Thanks so much 


Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:


  Many thanks Slau.


  Ronald


Op 9 aug. 2016, om 04:53 heeft Slau Halatyn  het 
volgende geschreven:


A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using primarily 
the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so that, when 
others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the list.



https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip


Best,


Slau




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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[TheOreoMonster]

Here you go.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/igb84fags0c6gbq/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a?dl=0
 



> On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:29 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Sir slau, did u remove the file? I need it plzz. Thanks so much 
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  > wrote:
> 
>> Many thanks Slau.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>>> Op 9 aug. 2016, om 04:53 heeft Slau Halatyn >> > het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
>>> recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using 
>>> primarily the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so 
>>> that, when others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the 
>>> list.
>>> 
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Ramy Moustafa]

thanks so much sir slau. i have just see this today. thanks again for your hard work.
بتاريخ ٠٣‏/٠٩‏/٢٠١٦ ٤:٤٦ م، جاء من Slau Halatyn :Here it is:https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5gzsrdcreww5e/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a?dl=1Please save it. I can’t hold on to these things too long.SlauOn Sep 3, 2016, at 3:29 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:Sir slau, did u remove the file? I need it plzz. Thanks so much Ramy moustafa saberMusicc instructor at:faculty of musical educationmusic arranger and sound engineerSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 9, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:Many thanks Slau.RonaldOp 9 aug. 2016, om 04:53 heeft Slau Halatyn  het volgende geschreven:A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using primarily the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so that, when others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the list.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zipBest,Slau

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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Slau Halatyn]

Here it is:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5gzsrdcreww5e/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a?dl=1

Please save it. I can’t hold on to these things too long.
Slau

> On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:29 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Sir slau, did u remove the file? I need it plzz. Thanks so much 
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  > wrote:
> 
>> Many thanks Slau.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>>> Op 9 aug. 2016, om 04:53 heeft Slau Halatyn >> > het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
>>> recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using 
>>> primarily the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so 
>>> that, when others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the 
>>> list.
>>> 
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Ramy Moustafa]

Sir slau, did u remove the file? I need it plzz. Thanks so much 

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Slau.
> 
> Ronald
> 
>> Op 9 aug. 2016, om 04:53 heeft Slau Halatyn  het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
>> recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using primarily 
>> the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so that, when 
>> others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the list.
>> 
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Rui Vilarinho]

Hello, somebody  saved  Slau's midi editting demonstration? and can please 
share with me?
Regards, Rui Vilarinho 

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  From: Slau Halatyn 
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  Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:53 AM
  Subject: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro 
Tools


  A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using primarily 
the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so that, when 
others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the list. 


  
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip


  Best,


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Re: brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Many thanks Slau.

Ronald

> Op 9 aug. 2016, om 04:53 heeft Slau Halatyn  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
> recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using primarily 
> the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so that, when 
> others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the list.
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip
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brief audio walk through on MIDI editing tips for VoiceOver and Pro Tools

[Slau Halatyn]

A bunch of people have asked about this not too long ago and a few more 
recently as well. I’ve put together a little demo of editing using primarily 
the MIDI Event List. As always, please feel free to save it so that, when 
others ask, there might be a few copies circulating amongst the list.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/MIDI%20editing%20tips%20for%20Pro%20Tools%20and%20VoiceOver.m4a.zip
 


Best,

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Re: midi editing question

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Tim,

Hopefully, you'll understand how difficult it is to give step-by-step 
instructions because there's no way I can know what your starting point is. 
However, I'll try to explain exactly what I would do myself if I were 
experiencing problems.

1. I'd make sure no other applications are running except Pro Tools.
2. I would close all windows except for the Mix and Edit windows and I would 
keep the Edit window as the foremost window.
3. I'd press Control-Option-f2 twice in a row to open the window chooser menu 
and make sure that there are no other windows like system dialogs open.
4. I'd enter the approximate bar/beat location where I want to edit by using 
the numeric keypad.
5. I'd press Option-= (equals) to open the MIDI Event List.
6. I'd use voiceOver to navigate to the value I want to change.
7. I'd click once on that event to select it.
8. I'd press Command-h to make sure the event is focused visibly in the MIDI 
Event List window.
9. I'd navigate to the field I want to change.
10. I'd simply use Control-Option-Shift along with the Space Bar twice to 
double-click the field.
11. I'd type in the value I want and I'd press Return on the qwerty keyboard.


If I've ever had any issue whatsoever, following the steps above would always 
result in success. Once you follow the initial steps, you don't have to repeat 
them. Just navigate, select and, if you've moved through a significant number 
of events (like 30 or 40), it's a good idea to use the Command-h shortcut to 
scroll that event into view once you've selected that event.
Hopefully that helps,
Slau

On May 2, 2016, at 7:33 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:

> Hi Slau:
> 
> I use MacBook Pro now, so already have apple track pad,
> What should I do now?
> can you step by step to teach me?
> excuse, forgive my stupid please.
> 
> Thanks
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Re: midi editing question

[Tim Liu]

Hi Slau:

I use MacBook Pro now, so already have apple track pad,
What should I do now?
can you step by step to teach me?
excuse, forgive my stupid please.

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Re: midi editing question

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Tim,

I would recommend the Apple Magic Track Pad. While a mouse is OK, sometimes in 
the process of physically locating it on a table or desktop can cause the mouse 
pointer to move. With a track pad, it doesn't matter exactly where you tap the 
pad. I find it far better than a mouse—just something to consider.
Slau

On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:31 PM, TheOreoMonster  wrote:

> You do need to have a mouse attached to your computer if you aren’t using a 
> laptop. This can be one of the apple mic but most any USB or BlueTooth mice 
> should work as well. If you have  laptop then the trackpad is your mouse. 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Tim Liu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Slau:
>> 
>> I already try this method but is not take effect.
>> Now, I'm more interested to know I should buy the apple mouse or not?
>> because I'm a totally blind, but I mean you say press the physical
>> mouse can fix the problem, so I want to learn about how do you do?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> On 4/29/16, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> There's nothing else that I can offer except one important bit of advice
>>> that you should always remember when using VoiceOver and physical mouse
>>> clicks: Make sure there are no other windows blocking the window within
>>> which you're trying to click. Use Control-Option-f2 f2 (that is, function 2
>>> twice in a row) to bring up the Window Chooser menu. This list should have
>>> nothing other than the Mix and Edit windows along with the MIDI Event list
>>> (which should be the foremost window and there should be no other windows in
>>> that list. If so, focus on that window and close it.
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Slau:
>>>> 
>>>> I already following your step to control the midi event list in my old
>>>> project, but is not exactly focus the event to edit the time/verlosity.
>>>> I create the new project is OK, but I want to edit back my old project,
>>>> can you help me?
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC+8, Peter Durieux wrote:
>>>> Hi Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
>>>> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand
>>>> it well
>>>> Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
>>>> 
>>>> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and
>>>> it stands that the piano roll is accessible.
>>>> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
>>>> If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>> 
>>>> With kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
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Re: midi editing question

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You do need to have a mouse attached to your computer if you aren’t using a 
laptop. This can be one of the apple mic but most any USB or BlueTooth mice 
should work as well. If you have  laptop then the trackpad is your mouse. 

> On Apr 29, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Tim Liu  wrote:
> 
> Hi Slau:
> 
> I already try this method but is not take effect.
> Now, I'm more interested to know I should buy the apple mouse or not?
> because I'm a totally blind, but I mean you say press the physical
> mouse can fix the problem, so I want to learn about how do you do?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On 4/29/16, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> There's nothing else that I can offer except one important bit of advice
>> that you should always remember when using VoiceOver and physical mouse
>> clicks: Make sure there are no other windows blocking the window within
>> which you're trying to click. Use Control-Option-f2 f2 (that is, function 2
>> twice in a row) to bring up the Window Chooser menu. This list should have
>> nothing other than the Mix and Edit windows along with the MIDI Event list
>> (which should be the foremost window and there should be no other windows in
>> that list. If so, focus on that window and close it.
>> Hope that helps,
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Slau:
>>> 
>>> I already following your step to control the midi event list in my old
>>> project, but is not exactly focus the event to edit the time/verlosity.
>>> I create the new project is OK, but I want to edit back my old project,
>>> can you help me?
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC+8, Peter Durieux wrote:
>>> Hi Listers,
>>> 
>>> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
>>> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand
>>> it well
>>> Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
>>> 
>>> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and
>>> it stands that the piano roll is accessible.
>>> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
>>> If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> 
>>> With kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
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Re: midi editing question

[Tim Liu]

Hi Slau:

I already try this method but is not take effect.
Now, I'm more interested to know I should buy the apple mouse or not?
because I'm a totally blind, but I mean you say press the physical
mouse can fix the problem, so I want to learn about how do you do?

Thanks

On 4/29/16, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> There's nothing else that I can offer except one important bit of advice
> that you should always remember when using VoiceOver and physical mouse
> clicks: Make sure there are no other windows blocking the window within
> which you're trying to click. Use Control-Option-f2 f2 (that is, function 2
> twice in a row) to bring up the Window Chooser menu. This list should have
> nothing other than the Mix and Edit windows along with the MIDI Event list
> (which should be the foremost window and there should be no other windows in
> that list. If so, focus on that window and close it.
> Hope that helps,
> Slau
>
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:
>
>> Hi Slau:
>>
>> I already following your step to control the midi event list in my old
>> project, but is not exactly focus the event to edit the time/verlosity.
>> I create the new project is OK, but I want to edit back my old project,
>> can you help me?
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC+8, Peter Durieux wrote:
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
>> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand
>> it well
>> Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
>>
>> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and
>> it stands that the piano roll is accessible.
>> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
>> If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> With kind regards,
>>
>> Peter
>>
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Re: midi editing question

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Tim,

There's nothing else that I can offer except one important bit of advice that 
you should always remember when using VoiceOver and physical mouse clicks: Make 
sure there are no other windows blocking the window within which you're trying 
to click. Use Control-Option-f2 f2 (that is, function 2 twice in a row) to 
bring up the Window Chooser menu. This list should have nothing other than the 
Mix and Edit windows along with the MIDI Event list (which should be the 
foremost window and there should be no other windows in that list. If so, focus 
on that window and close it.
Hope that helps,
Slau

On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Tim Liu  wrote:

> Hi Slau:
> 
> I already following your step to control the midi event list in my old 
> project, but is not exactly focus the event to edit the time/verlosity.
> I create the new project is OK, but I want to edit back my old project, can 
> you help me?
> 
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC+8, Peter Durieux wrote:
> Hi Listers, 
> 
> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X. 
> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand it 
> well 
> Logic Pro X should be better for this job. 
> 
> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and it 
> stands that the piano roll is accessible. 
> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job. 
> If someone could tell me what can we do or not? 
> 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> With kind regards, 
> 
> Peter 
> 
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Re: midi editing question

[Tim Liu]

Hi Slau:

I already following your step to control the midi event list in my old 
project, but is not exactly focus the event to edit the time/verlosity.
I create the new project is OK, but I want to edit back my old project, can 
you help me?

On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC+8, Peter Durieux wrote:
>
> Hi Listers, 
>
> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X. 
> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand 
> it well 
> Logic Pro X should be better for this job. 
>
> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and 
> it stands that the piano roll is accessible. 
> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job. 
> If someone could tell me what can we do or not? 
>
> Thanks in advance 
>
> With kind regards, 
>
> Peter 
>

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Re: midi editing question

[Slau Halatyn]

er or more verifiable.
>> 
>> When you click on an event in the MIDI Event List, the Edit window reflects 
>> the selection. Just as selecting a range displays various values in the edit 
>> window's counter display, selecting an event in the MIDI Event List defines 
>> a start point of the event, an end point, a length and even pitch, velocity 
>> etc. If you've selected an event in the Event List, press Command-accent to 
>> cycle to the Edit window. You'll notice that in the counter display cluster, 
>> the note pitch and velocity, among other things, are displayed.
>> 
>> Let's say you selected middle c and it landed on bar 1, beat 1 and 56 ticks. 
>> With the note selected, you can press the slash key on the numeric keypad 3 
>> times to get to the ticks field, enter 0 and hit Enter to change the start 
>> time of the note to be at bar 1, beat 1 and zero ticks. Note that, since 
>> we're using the num pad to modify the value, we need to use the Enter key 
>> rather than the Return key like we did in the MIDI Event List window. The 
>> same editing options can be used to change the end time or duration. Again, 
>> pressing Enter after typing the new values.
>> 
>> You can also change the pitch or velocity in the counter display cluster of 
>> the Edit window. Here, however, you don't need to double-click. You can 
>> simply click one once on the value with Control-Option-Space Bar, type the 
>> value or press a note on a controller and hit Return.
>> 
>> I should reiterate that this alternative method which I just described 
>> involves cycling between the Event List and the Edit window. While each 
>> window has focus, the down and up arrow keys will behave differently. In the 
>> Event List, if there's an event selected, the arrow keys will selecte notes 
>> as the keys are pressed. This doesn't select a range but rather individual 
>> notes at a time whether you're moving up or down. The same arrow keys have a 
>> very different function in the Edit window, of course. If you press the down 
>> arrow in the Edit window, you will move the insertion point to reflect the 
>> Start time and it will deselect any duration or note value. In other words, 
>> with this alternate method, one has to be conscious of which window is 
>> active and when to use the arrow keys for which purpose.
>> 
>> So, there are advantages to either method, I suppose. Hopefully, that'll 
>> help some folks with their MIDI editing. There are still some peculiarities 
>> regarding how Pro Tools displays bank and program change values in the Event 
>> List. It's an active bug which I hope will be resolved in the future. As 
>> always, things sound so much more complicated when they're written out. All 
>> of this is actually quite easy when you've done it a bit.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Slau
>> parameters 
>> On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:22 AM, peter  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Listers,
>>> 
>>> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
>>> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand 
>>> it well
>>> Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
>>> 
>>> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and 
>>> it stands that the piano roll is accessible.
>>> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
>>> If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> With kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Peter 
>>> 
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Re: midi editing question

[Steve Matzura]

l notice that in the counter display cluster, the 
>note pitch and velocity, among other things, are displayed.
>
>Let's say you selected middle c and it landed on bar 1, beat 1 and 56 ticks. 
>With the note selected, you can press the slash key on the numeric keypad 3 
>times to get to the ticks field, enter 0 and hit Enter to change the start 
>time of the note to be at bar 1, beat 1 and zero ticks. Note that, since we're 
>using the num pad to modify the value, we need to use the Enter key rather 
>than the Return key like we did in the MIDI Event List window. The same 
>editing options can be used to change the end time or duration. Again, 
>pressing Enter after typing the new values.
>
>You can also change the pitch or velocity in the counter display cluster of 
>the Edit window. Here, however, you don't need to double-click. You can simply 
>click one once on the value with Control-Option-Space Bar, type the value or 
>press a note on a controller and hit Return.
>
>I should reiterate that this alternative method which I just described 
>involves cycling between the Event List and the Edit window. While each window 
>has focus, the down and up arrow keys will behave differently. In the Event 
>List, if there's an event selected, the arrow keys will selecte notes as the 
>keys are pressed. This doesn't select a range but rather individual notes at a 
>time whether you're moving up or down. The same arrow keys have a very 
>different function in the Edit window, of course. If you press the down arrow 
>in the Edit window, you will move the insertion point to reflect the Start 
>time and it will deselect any duration or note value. In other words, with 
>this alternate method, one has to be conscious of which window is active and 
>when to use the arrow keys for which purpose.
>
>So, there are advantages to either method, I suppose. Hopefully, that'll help 
>some folks with their MIDI editing. There are still some peculiarities 
>regarding how Pro Tools displays bank and program change values in the Event 
>List. It's an active bug which I hope will be resolved in the future. As 
>always, things sound so much more complicated when they're written out. All of 
>this is actually quite easy when you've done it a bit.
>
>Best,
>Slau
>parameters 
>On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:22 AM, peter  wrote:
>
>> Hi Listers,
>> 
>> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
>> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand 
>> it well
>> Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
>> 
>> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and it 
>> stands that the piano roll is accessible.
>> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
>> If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance 
>> 
>> With kind regards,
>> 
>> Peter 
>> 
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Re: midi editing question

[peter]

ed an event in the Event List, press Command-accent to 
> cycle to the Edit window. You'll notice that in the counter display cluster, 
> the note pitch and velocity, among other things, are displayed.
> 
> Let's say you selected middle c and it landed on bar 1, beat 1 and 56 ticks. 
> With the note selected, you can press the slash key on the numeric keypad 3 
> times to get to the ticks field, enter 0 and hit Enter to change the start 
> time of the note to be at bar 1, beat 1 and zero ticks. Note that, since 
> we're using the num pad to modify the value, we need to use the Enter key 
> rather than the Return key like we did in the MIDI Event List window. The 
> same editing options can be used to change the end time or duration. Again, 
> pressing Enter after typing the new values.
> 
> You can also change the pitch or velocity in the counter display cluster of 
> the Edit window. Here, however, you don't need to double-click. You can 
> simply click one once on the value with Control-Option-Space Bar, type the 
> value or press a note on a controller and hit Return.
> 
> I should reiterate that this alternative method which I just described 
> involves cycling between the Event List and the Edit window. While each 
> window has focus, the down and up arrow keys will behave differently. In the 
> Event List, if there's an event selected, the arrow keys will selecte notes 
> as the keys are pressed. This doesn't select a range but rather individual 
> notes at a time whether you're moving up or down. The same arrow keys have a 
> very different function in the Edit window, of course. If you press the down 
> arrow in the Edit window, you will move the insertion point to reflect the 
> Start time and it will deselect any duration or note value. In other words, 
> with this alternate method, one has to be conscious of which window is active 
> and when to use the arrow keys for which purpose.
> 
> So, there are advantages to either method, I suppose. Hopefully, that'll help 
> some folks with their MIDI editing. There are still some peculiarities 
> regarding how Pro Tools displays bank and program change values in the Event 
> List. It's an active bug which I hope will be resolved in the future. As 
> always, things sound so much more complicated when they're written out. All 
> of this is actually quite easy when you've done it a bit.
> 
> Best,
> Slau
> parameters 
> On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:22 AM, peter  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Listers,
> > 
> > this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
> > the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand 
> > it well
> > Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
> > 
> > The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and 
> > it stands that the piano roll is accessible.
> > Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
> > If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance 
> > 
> > With kind regards,
> > 
> > Peter 
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Re: midi editing question

[Slau Halatyn]

sing 
the num pad to modify the value, we need to use the Enter key rather than the 
Return key like we did in the MIDI Event List window. The same editing options 
can be used to change the end time or duration. Again, pressing Enter after 
typing the new values.

You can also change the pitch or velocity in the counter display cluster of the 
Edit window. Here, however, you don't need to double-click. You can simply 
click one once on the value with Control-Option-Space Bar, type the value or 
press a note on a controller and hit Return.

I should reiterate that this alternative method which I just described involves 
cycling between the Event List and the Edit window. While each window has 
focus, the down and up arrow keys will behave differently. In the Event List, 
if there's an event selected, the arrow keys will selecte notes as the keys are 
pressed. This doesn't select a range but rather individual notes at a time 
whether you're moving up or down. The same arrow keys have a very different 
function in the Edit window, of course. If you press the down arrow in the Edit 
window, you will move the insertion point to reflect the Start time and it will 
deselect any duration or note value. In other words, with this alternate 
method, one has to be conscious of which window is active and when to use the 
arrow keys for which purpose.

So, there are advantages to either method, I suppose. Hopefully, that'll help 
some folks with their MIDI editing. There are still some peculiarities 
regarding how Pro Tools displays bank and program change values in the Event 
List. It's an active bug which I hope will be resolved in the future. As 
always, things sound so much more complicated when they're written out. All of 
this is actually quite easy when you've done it a bit.

Best,
Slau
parameters 
On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:22 AM, peter  wrote:

> Hi Listers,
> 
> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand it 
> well
> Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
> 
> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and it 
> stands that the piano roll is accessible.
> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
> If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
> 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> With kind regards,
> 
> Peter 
> 
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Re: midi editing question

[peter]

Hi Slau,

That would be great. :)

grtz

Peter

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 08:41:26AM -0400, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> Yep,
> 
> Don't use the MIDI Editor in Pro Tools, use the MIDI Event List which lays 
> everything out in a table. There are a few quirks but it works. I'll be doing 
> a bunch of MIDI work next week so I'll try to gather a few pointers and put 
> something together as an outline of what one should be aware of when using 
> the MIDI Event List.
> Slau
> 
> On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:22 AM, peter  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Listers,
> > 
> > this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
> > the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand 
> > it well
> > Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
> > 
> > The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and 
> > it stands that the piano roll is accessible.
> > Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
> > If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance 
> > 
> > With kind regards,
> > 
> > Peter 
> > 
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Re: midi editing question

[Slau Halatyn]

Yep,

Don't use the MIDI Editor in Pro Tools, use the MIDI Event List which lays 
everything out in a table. There are a few quirks but it works. I'll be doing a 
bunch of MIDI work next week so I'll try to gather a few pointers and put 
something together as an outline of what one should be aware of when using the 
MIDI Event List.
Slau

On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:22 AM, peter  wrote:

> Hi Listers,
> 
> this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
> the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand it 
> well
> Logic Pro X should be better for this job.
> 
> The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and it 
> stands that the piano roll is accessible.
> Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
> If someone could tell me what can we do or not?
> 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> With kind regards,
> 
> Peter 
> 
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midi editing question

[peter]

Hi Listers,

this is a question for those who have Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
the midi editor in pro tools isn't accessible in some way. If I understand it 
well
Logic Pro X should be better for this job.

The last update of lp addresses a lot of bugfixes for voiceover users and it 
stands that the piano roll is accessible.
Does this means that midi editing is a doable job.
If someone could tell me what can we do or not?

Thanks in advance 

With kind regards,

Peter 

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Re: Navigation, audio and midi editing

[TheOreoMonster]

kevin reeves did some audio tutorials that explain this stuff greatly. check 
his site, kevinreeves.net  or search the archives of this list. If you have no 
luck hopefully someone on here will have a direct link. 
On Jan 8, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Daniel C  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I'm currently on a protools 10 30 day trial and have a few basic
> questions reguarding navigation and audio/midi editing.
> I've read here that the numpad can be used to navigate through a
> project. How exactly can this be done? Also, how would I go about
> selecting a clip to copy, or quantize etc... Any help would be much
> appreciated. Thanks.

Navigation, audio and midi editing

[Daniel C]

Hello everyone,
I'm currently on a protools 10 30 day trial and have a few basic
questions reguarding navigation and audio/midi editing.
I've read here that the numpad can be used to navigate through a
project. How exactly can this be done? Also, how would I go about
selecting a clip to copy, or quantize etc... Any help would be much
appreciated. Thanks.