Re: Pitch changing in PT
Hey: I went up on the waves site an registered and downloaded a demo of the sound shifter plug and couldn't get the online installer for mac to work at all. It certainly is not like a normal installer. Did you get the off line version and run that? I tried doing that for windows and got a weird error message from some site in Japan. Gordd -Original Message- From: Chuck Reichel Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 7:14 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Pitch changing in PT Hi Mike, Waves soundShifter is fairly accessible with a control surface. I just grabbed it for $129.00 the other day and wow!!! Changing Pitch or time or both for full mixes, complete songs is stunning to say the least! Still in early stages of whacking! AS for vocal tuning, Waves Tune sounds or may be I should say does not sound! LOL excellent! I have just about got it conquered I hope! LOL Your pitch may beri. But your mileage won't with waves! LOL Chuck On Jun 24, 2011, at 3:10 PM, MLock1g wrote: Sorry don't know what happen. Hey Jake PitchTime is probably more used in the protools DAW the older V. was more accessible but there are some work around for protools9. To your earlier question yes at some point you have to hear it though, even if they are viewing it on screen theres no perfect wave to note depiction when it comes to say a vocal track unless its being sung with no modulation. L8R MLock1g wrote: Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Dear Jake, I remember someone asking about Melodyne ae awhile ago on this list. Melodyne is undoubtably the best tuning device I've ever heard, but I don't know about its accessibility. On the other hand, sonar'sV vocal is not bad and almost entirely accessible. Maybe you could have BootCamp on your Mac and use Windows, jaws, and sonar's V Vocal if nothing is available on ProTools, but that would require learning how to use all this as well. I hope that ProTools experts will come up with another solution. Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Jake To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: a new round of questions Dear JP, I agree with you hole heartedly. Illegal downloading is a large problem in the US as well, and has undoubtedly hurt the music industry. This does not change the realities of our situation. As I see it speaking in general terms. We have 2 choices we can either resign our selves to working with what ever comes across our table witch means having to polish terds and find the occasional gold nugget, if you will pardon the metaphor. Or we can become so good and so well known for our craft and turning out a good product that we can demand a higher price and thus gather a more exclusive client list, and only work with those who are worth that kind of money and time. I am just starting out learning and know I at least in the beginning will not be worth that level of exclusivity. So my question is how do we deal with the day to day non-golden nuggets and still make them as shiny as possible. The specific question is tuning and does the screen reader help with the visual representation or do we have to develop a masters ear if not a masters client list. thanks Jake PS Thank you list for indulging my rants. - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:32 AM Subject: Re: a new round of questions Dear Jake, I know exactly what you're saying, but I also think it is one of the reasons why the music industry is dying. The pearl necklace you're talking about is just plastic now, I'm in France, and we also have a big problem about kids downloading music illegally. It's bad, but maybe these kids, down inside, feel that what the industry is trying to sell them as music is not worth any more. My musical background goes from Mozart to Thelenious Monk, Miles Davis, the Beatles, Frank Zappa, and also African music I'm very fond of, and they want to sell me lady gaga? Okay, I'm getting really off topic now and I hope you'll excuse me for this. Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Jake To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:04 AM Subject: Re: a new round of questions I completely agree but it is a fact of life if we want to make a living all of our clients are not going to be legend status good or even particularly professional, and we are going to have to polish terds from time to time and just hope it doesn't become our bred and butter. I have sat in on 4 or 5 sessions now and it strikes me that a large part of the time in studio working on an album is turning a string of terds in to a pearl necklace. So how do we as blind engineers
Pitch changing in PT
Hi Mike, Waves soundShifter is fairly accessible with a control surface. I just grabbed it for $129.00 the other day and wow!!! Changing Pitch or time or both for full mixes, complete songs is stunning to say the least! Still in early stages of whacking! AS for vocal tuning, Waves Tune sounds or may be I should say does not sound! LOL excellent! I have just about got it conquered I hope! LOL Your pitch may beri. But your mileage won't with waves! LOL Chuck On Jun 24, 2011, at 3:10 PM, MLock1g wrote: Sorry don't know what happen. Hey Jake PitchTime is probably more used in the protools DAW the older V. was more accessible but there are some work around for protools9. To your earlier question yes at some point you have to hear it though, even if they are viewing it on screen theres no perfect wave to note depiction when it comes to say a vocal track unless its being sung with no modulation. L8R MLock1g wrote: Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Dear Jake, I remember someone asking about Melodyne ae awhile ago on this list. Melodyne is undoubtably the best tuning device I've ever heard, but I don't know about its accessibility. On the other hand, sonar'sV vocal is not bad and almost entirely accessible. Maybe you could have BootCamp on your Mac and use Windows, jaws, and sonar's V Vocal if nothing is available on ProTools, but that would require learning how to use all this as well. I hope that ProTools experts will come up with another solution. Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Jake To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: a new round of questions Dear JP, I agree with you hole heartedly. Illegal downloading is a large problem in the US as well, and has undoubtedly hurt the music industry. This does not change the realities of our situation. As I see it speaking in general terms. We have 2 choices we can either resign our selves to working with what ever comes across our table witch means having to polish terds and find the occasional gold nugget, if you will pardon the metaphor. Or we can become so good and so well known for our craft and turning out a good product that we can demand a higher price and thus gather a more exclusive client list, and only work with those who are worth that kind of money and time. I am just starting out learning and know I at least in the beginning will not be worth that level of exclusivity. So my question is how do we deal with the day to day non-golden nuggets and still make them as shiny as possible. The specific question is tuning and does the screen reader help with the visual representation or do we have to develop a masters ear if not a masters client list. thanks Jake PS Thank you list for indulging my rants. - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:32 AM Subject: Re: a new round of questions Dear Jake, I know exactly what you're saying, but I also think it is one of the reasons why the music industry is dying. The pearl necklace you're talking about is just plastic now, I'm in France, and we also have a big problem about kids downloading music illegally. It's bad, but maybe these kids, down inside, feel that what the industry is trying to sell them as music is not worth any more. My musical background goes from Mozart to Thelenious Monk, Miles Davis, the Beatles, Frank Zappa, and also African music I'm very fond of, and they want to sell me lady gaga? Okay, I'm getting really off topic now and I hope you'll excuse me for this. Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Jake To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:04 AM Subject: Re: a new round of questions I completely agree but it is a fact of life if we want to make a living all of our clients are not going to be legend status good or even particularly professional, and we are going to have to polish terds from time to time and just hope it doesn't become our bred and butter. I have sat in on 4 or 5 sessions now and it strikes me that a large part of the time in studio working on an album is turning a string of terds in to a pearl necklace. So how do we as blind engineers compensate for the unprofessional sound of the majority of our clients? thanks much Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:35 AM Subject: Re: a new round of questions Dear Jake and all, it has nothing to do with you and it's probably off topic, but it just striked me when I read your message, why a hell don't people learn how to
