Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update
Hi All, When I get my new Mac - thanks to all for advice on that - it will come with Mountain Lion. If I put the latest version of ProTools on it, will there be enough accessibility to start learning PT, or would it be better to downgrade to Lion, if that's even possible? Best, Peter At 13:57 14/03/2013, you wrote: FYI: Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and is available for download from the Avid website. I haven't played around with it much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the functionality in Lion remains the same. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. *** Peter Bosher, Email: pe...@soundlinks.com http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, Bucks. HP5 1AL England. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update
Hey Peter, You'll need to downgrade to Lion. The bug that's affecting PT in Mountain Lion has been reported to and acknowledged by Apple though, so hopefully you won't have to stay there indefinitely. One problem you might have is that the Macs that are shipping now were manufactured post Lion, so there's a chance you might run into hardware not being supported. Dunno, someone else will have to chime in on that. Scott On 3/15/13, Peter Bosher peterbos...@enterprise.net wrote: Hi All, When I get my new Mac - thanks to all for advice on that - it will come with Mountain Lion. If I put the latest version of ProTools on it, will there be enough accessibility to start learning PT, or would it be better to downgrade to Lion, if that's even possible? Best, Peter At 13:57 14/03/2013, you wrote: FYI: Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and is available for download from the Avid website. I haven't played around with it much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the functionality in Lion remains the same. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. *** Peter Bosher, Email: pe...@soundlinks.com http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, Bucks. HP5 1AL England. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update
Hi, Exactly why we need to take a more active standing on fixing these issues for example getting both Apple and Avid members on this list as even if they don't respond at least they could be reading these messages and getting to the developers suggestions on ways to improove accessibility. There are already some macs that won't run 10.6 that will run 10.7 and 10.8 just fine and if we are not active in this we will find lots of newer ones if they don't exist already that can't be downgraded. I suggest we call Apple and demonstrate these issues and explain to them that there are people like me in school who don't have the power to downgrade a school system for accessibility reasons. If Apple cares about the educational market like they say they do they should really get on this issue and I find that talking to someone on the phone and showing them these issues where they can hear them is a great way of getting the points across. I would suggest you try out pro tools on your new system as you should be able to at least make recordings and do some tasks as I have been doing on mountain lion to test out things. What type of work will you be doing and this way we can help you out more? Nick Gawronski On Fri, March 15, 2013 10:25 am, Peter Bosher wrote: Hi All, When I get my new Mac - thanks to all for advice on that - it will come with Mountain Lion. If I put the latest version of ProTools on it, will there be enough accessibility to start learning PT, or would it be better to downgrade to Lion, if that's even possible? Best, Peter At 13:57 14/03/2013, you wrote: FYI: Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and is available for download from the Avid website. I haven't played around with it much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the functionality in Lion remains the same. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. *** Peter Bosher, Email: pe...@soundlinks.com http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, Bucks. HP5 1AL England. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update
Nick, having banged my head repeatedly on Apple's door over one thing or another for a decade or more, all I can say is I wish you luck and limitless energy. You'll need both. Tbh, the fact that the situation was acknowledged at all beyond canned responses gives me more hope that a fix will happen at some point than hours and hours of advocacy would. Is that the way the world should work? No. Is it the way Apple's world does work? Yep. On 3/15/13, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, Exactly why we need to take a more active standing on fixing these issues for example getting both Apple and Avid members on this list as even if they don't respond at least they could be reading these messages and getting to the developers suggestions on ways to improove accessibility. There are already some macs that won't run 10.6 that will run 10.7 and 10.8 just fine and if we are not active in this we will find lots of newer ones if they don't exist already that can't be downgraded. I suggest we call Apple and demonstrate these issues and explain to them that there are people like me in school who don't have the power to downgrade a school system for accessibility reasons. If Apple cares about the educational market like they say they do they should really get on this issue and I find that talking to someone on the phone and showing them these issues where they can hear them is a great way of getting the points across. I would suggest you try out pro tools on your new system as you should be able to at least make recordings and do some tasks as I have been doing on mountain lion to test out things. What type of work will you be doing and this way we can help you out more? Nick Gawronski On Fri, March 15, 2013 10:25 am, Peter Bosher wrote: Hi All, When I get my new Mac - thanks to all for advice on that - it will come with Mountain Lion. If I put the latest version of ProTools on it, will there be enough accessibility to start learning PT, or would it be better to downgrade to Lion, if that's even possible? Best, Peter At 13:57 14/03/2013, you wrote: FYI: Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and is available for download from the Avid website. I haven't played around with it much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the functionality in Lion remains the same. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. *** Peter Bosher, Email: pe...@soundlinks.com http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, Bucks. HP5 1AL England. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update
FYI: Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and is available for download from the Avid website. I haven't played around with it much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the functionality in Lion remains the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update
Not really surprising, given that so far as we know, the bug causing the counter display etc not to be read in ML is on Apples end of the equation rather than Avids. If you've got a suitable system to try it on, testing any flavour of PT 10 with the ML 10.8.3 release that Apple have just put out would be mega useful though, just in case they've slipped a fix in there. On 3/14/13, Dread Beat Dadz dreadbeatd...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and is available for download from the Avid website. I haven't played around with it much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the functionality in Lion remains the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update
That’s because the problems are with Apple, not avid. This is a real shame, it’s always a drag to lose a level of accessibility we once had, and it is one of the more basic functions of pt that we really need to work efficiently. Gord From: Dread Beat Dadz Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:57 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update FYI: Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and is available for download from the Avid website. I haven't played around with it much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the functionality in Lion remains the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
