Re: Blending clips when I paste
Likewise, thanks Kevin. Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Dec 2014, at 16:20, "Poppa Bear" wrote: > > Thanks for that tip Kevin, I will archive it. > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Kevin Reeves > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:13 AM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Blending clips when I paste > > I’m late in seeing this thread, but I found an even easier way to do this. > Set your nudge to 10 ms if spoken word, or about 20 ticks if in bars beats. > Tab to the region you want to crossfade. Press minus once so your a bit > before the clip boundary. Press command Shift Plus twice. This will start > creating a selection from the curser. By pressing twice, you are extending > the selection across the 2 clips. Then, Perform the crossfade. > I have no control surface, and I can clean up tracks very quickly with this > method. > > Hope this helps. > > Kevin > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Blending clips when I paste
Thanks for that tip Kevin, I will archive it. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Reeves Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:13 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Blending clips when I paste I’m late in seeing this thread, but I found an even easier way to do this. Set your nudge to 10 ms if spoken word, or about 20 ticks if in bars beats. Tab to the region you want to crossfade. Press minus once so your a bit before the clip boundary. Press command Shift Plus twice. This will start creating a selection from the curser. By pressing twice, you are extending the selection across the 2 clips. Then, Perform the crossfade. I have no control surface, and I can clean up tracks very quickly with this method. Hope this helps. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
I’m late in seeing this thread, but I found an even easier way to do this. Set your nudge to 10 ms if spoken word, or about 20 ticks if in bars beats. Tab to the region you want to crossfade. Press minus once so your a bit before the clip boundary. Press command Shift Plus twice. This will start creating a selection from the curser. By pressing twice, you are extending the selection across the 2 clips. Then, Perform the crossfade. I have no control surface, and I can clean up tracks very quickly with this method. Hope this helps. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Blending clips when I paste
I do like that Chuck, funny though. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:50 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Blending clips when I paste Hi David, What I do for back round noise is to keep a track of just background noise and use it be hind the narration. :) HTH Chuck YMMV On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:35 PM, David Eagle wrote: > OK, that is very simple. It’s a very different way of working, but it seems > to work and I suppose once I get used to it then it should work just as good. > Thanks again Slau. I’ll give you the weekend off. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
Thanks slau. I understand that all perfectly. Yes, I am using shuffle mode poppa. Thanks for your help. Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Dec 2014, at 04:06, "Poppa Bear" wrote: > > Hello Dave, this isn't a perfect solution, but have you tried to use shuffle > mode \rather than grid mode? Shuffle mode allows the deleted portion of audio > to be filled by sliding the remaining audio together. I have went through an > hour long voice over session rather quickly using this, taking out a lot of > Hmms, uhs, and other useless gibber. > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of David Eagle > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:08 PM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Blending clips when I paste > > Hi, I’ve searched the Internet for this but to no avail. When I paste a clip > over another clip, the original clip is replaced by the new one. But I’d like > to have the old and new clip play together. I’d basically like to have the > two clips on the same track playing together rather than one replacing the > other. I assumed that paste special might allow me to do this, but it is > dimmed. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
Hi David, What I do for back round noise is to keep a track of just background noise and use it be hind the narration. :) HTH Chuck YMMV On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:35 PM, David Eagle wrote: > OK, that is very simple. It’s a very different way of working, but it seems > to work and I suppose once I get used to it then it should work just as good. > Thanks again Slau. I’ll give you the weekend off. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Blending clips when I paste
Hello Dave, this isn't a perfect solution, but have you tried to use shuffle mode \rather than grid mode? Shuffle mode allows the deleted portion of audio to be filled by sliding the remaining audio together. I have went through an hour long voice over session rather quickly using this, taking out a lot of Hmms, uhs, and other useless gibber. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:08 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Blending clips when I paste Hi, I’ve searched the Internet for this but to no avail. When I paste a clip over another clip, the original clip is replaced by the new one. But I’d like to have the old and new clip play together. I’d basically like to have the two clips on the same track playing together rather than one replacing the other. I assumed that paste special might allow me to do this, but it is dimmed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
No problem, David. Thing is, doing crossfades without a control surface is fairly tedious and involves a bunch of keystrokes. You can do a bulk crossfade operation but the results of the bulk crossfade might be fine for 90% of the points but maybe not all of them. It's better to do them individually in general. If it's spoken word, depending on the edits, you can probably get away with 20 ms crossfades. Without explaining a lot in detail (others can fill in the gaps), set your nudge value to 10 milliseconds. Tab to the edit. Use the minus key to move back 10 milliseconds. Press slash on the num pad three times and, assuming you're in Minutes:seconds, type 0.0.020. You'll have made a 20 millisecond selection across the edit. If you're in Commands Focus mode, press f or press Command-f to bring up the fades dialog and simply press enter. HTH, Slau On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:35 PM, David Eagle wrote: > OK, that is very simple. It’s a very different way of working, but it seems > to work and I suppose once I get used to it then it should work just as good. > Thanks again Slau. I’ll give you the weekend off. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
OK, that is very simple. It’s a very different way of working, but it seems to work and I suppose once I get used to it then it should work just as good. Thanks again Slau. I’ll give you the weekend off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
Oh, gosh, no, David. You just crossfade. Select from a little bit before the cut to a little bit after the cut and crossfade. Hopefully, someone else can chime in to explain. On Dec 4, 2014, at 7:20 PM, David Eagle wrote: > Thanks Slau. A bit of a shame. I have a piece of audio that I want to make > very precise edits on. Some of the edits won’t work if I just do a crude > delete in shuffle mode. In Sonar I would delete the portion of audio I didn’t > want, then cut the bit after that portion, and paste it over the top of the > end of the previous section, and the two bits of audio would seamlessly > crossfade, and you’d never know they had been edited. This has been a > technique I’ve used for years, and assumed it was a staple part of editing > speech. Say you have a piece of audio that says: “I am trying to … er … learn > … ProTools.” I don’t want the ‘ers.’ Now I could just delete them, except > this sentence has been recorded in the street and there is the sound of > traffic, and so you’d hear the shift in the ambient sound if I just did a > crude delete, and it wouldn’t sound natural. It would be an obvious bad edit. > So you need to blend the two clips and crossfade them. So you delete an, er, > and then take the portion of audio after it, cut it, and paste it over the > top of the last second or so of the previous bit, giving you a lovely > crossfade and a seamless edit. To do the equivalent of this in PT, it seems > as if I’ll have to create a bus, because I’m unfortunately going to be > working with multiple tracks, since I can’t do this track merge technique, > and I need the same EQ and compression settings to be in play for both > tracks. Then I’ll have to delete the piece of audio I don’t want, cut the bit > after it, paste it onto a new track, apply a fade out on the first track, > then apply a fade in on the second track. As you can see, that’s quite a few > more steps. > > I don’t mind if this is what I need to do, but I thought I’d explain my > reasoning for wanting to do it in case you or anyone else can think of a > quicker way of doing this. > > Oh dear, I am demanding aren’t I? I’m really getting the hang of ProTools, > and I have read the manual cursorily, and I’ve listened to the PT with speech > tutorials, but I’ve used Sonar for about ten years, and I was lightning fast > on the thing. So I’m just trying to migrate my knowledge over to PT. > > Sorry for all the questions, and thank you again for your patients and help. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
Thanks Slau. A bit of a shame. I have a piece of audio that I want to make very precise edits on. Some of the edits won’t work if I just do a crude delete in shuffle mode. In Sonar I would delete the portion of audio I didn’t want, then cut the bit after that portion, and paste it over the top of the end of the previous section, and the two bits of audio would seamlessly crossfade, and you’d never know they had been edited. This has been a technique I’ve used for years, and assumed it was a staple part of editing speech. Say you have a piece of audio that says: “I am trying to … er … learn … ProTools.” I don’t want the ‘ers.’ Now I could just delete them, except this sentence has been recorded in the street and there is the sound of traffic, and so you’d hear the shift in the ambient sound if I just did a crude delete, and it wouldn’t sound natural. It would be an obvious bad edit. So you need to blend the two clips and crossfade them. So you delete an, er, and then take the portion of audio after it, cut it, and paste it over the top of the last second or so of the previous bit, giving you a lovely crossfade and a seamless edit. To do the equivalent of this in PT, it seems as if I’ll have to create a bus, because I’m unfortunately going to be working with multiple tracks, since I can’t do this track merge technique, and I need the same EQ and compression settings to be in play for both tracks. Then I’ll have to delete the piece of audio I don’t want, cut the bit after it, paste it onto a new track, apply a fade out on the first track, then apply a fade in on the second track. As you can see, that’s quite a few more steps. I don’t mind if this is what I need to do, but I thought I’d explain my reasoning for wanting to do it in case you or anyone else can think of a quicker way of doing this. Oh dear, I am demanding aren’t I? I’m really getting the hang of ProTools, and I have read the manual cursorily, and I’ve listened to the PT with speech tutorials, but I’ve used Sonar for about ten years, and I was lightning fast on the thing. So I’m just trying to migrate my knowledge over to PT. Sorry for all the questions, and thank you again for your patients and help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
David, You're not going to get very far trying to learn Pro Tools by searching on google. There's no substitute for reading the manual. You can't combine regions that way. If you want it to play at the same time, create a new track and paste it in where you want it. Boom. Slau On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:07 PM, David Eagle wrote: > Hi, I’ve searched the Internet for this but to no avail. When I paste a clip > over another clip, the original clip is replaced by the new one. But I’d like > to have the old and new clip play together. I’d basically like to have the > two clips on the same track playing together rather than one replacing the > other. I assumed that paste special might allow me to do this, but it is > dimmed. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
