Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Slau Halatyn]

There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location and they 
are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to determine whether 
a license can be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. Some 
developers allow all three while some only allow one or two. The third 
generation iLok can store at least 512 licenses if not more. I'd imagine 
there's no theoretical maximum for computer activation slots. One disadvantage 
with computer activation is that you have to remove all license activations if 
you're formatting the drive. Apart from that, portability is a big factor for 
some users.
HTH,
Slau


> On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland  wrote:
> 
> For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get way too 
> long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you with why I ask 
> this question. I know typically, this isn't something most people probably 
> would do, all be it the option's there, but I have to ask at least this 
> much...
> 
> 
> I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one which 
> I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require it. I see 
> however that when activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I either can 
> put the asset on my physical iLok USB dongle, or I can actually put it 
> locally on my mac itself.
> 
> 
> I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is there a 
> limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them instead on my mac? 
> Also, having this option, does that mean that technically speaking, as long 
> as I don't plan to move around from one system to another, I could 
> theoreticly store the asset there instead of on my actual dongle itself? 
> Finally, what would be the disadvantages aside the obvious of no portability 
> from one system to another of having it stored locally on my mac instead of 
> the key itself?
> 
> 
> Chris.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Christopher Gilland]

Slau,


Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for the 
answer, but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on the matter.



Have a wonderful rest of your day.


Chris.

On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location 
and they are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to 
determine whether a license can be activated to an iLok, a computer 
and the cloud. Some developers allow all three while some only allow 
one or two. The third generation iLok can store at least 512 licenses 
if not more. I'd imagine there's no theoretical maximum for computer 
activation slots. One disadvantage with computer activation is that 
you have to remove all license activations if you're formatting the 
drive. Apart from that, portability is a big factor for some users.

HTH,
Slau


On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get 
way too long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you 
with why I ask this question. I know typically, this isn't something 
most people probably would do, all be it the option's there, but I 
have to ask at least this much...



I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one 
which I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require 
it. I see however that when activating a plugin through the iLok 
manager, I either can put the asset on my physical iLok USB dongle, 
or I can actually put it locally on my mac itself.



I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is 
there a limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them 
instead on my mac? Also, having this option, does that mean that 
technically speaking, as long as I don't plan to move around from one 
system to another, I could theoreticly store the asset there instead 
of on my actual dongle itself? Finally, what would be the 
disadvantages aside the obvious of no portability from one system to 
another of having it stored locally on my mac instead of the key itself?



Chris.

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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Ronald van Rhijn]

I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only registration needs 
a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. , 
Anyone know why this is the case? I would definately like to have a ilok-less 
setup. 

Ronald


 
> Op 3 jan. 2020, om 15:08 heeft Christopher Gilland  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Slau,
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for the answer, 
> but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on the matter.
> 
> 
> 
> Have a wonderful rest of your day.
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location and 
>> they are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to determine 
>> whether a license can be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. 
>> Some developers allow all three while some only allow one or two. The third 
>> generation iLok can store at least 512 licenses if not more. I'd imagine 
>> there's no theoretical maximum for computer activation slots. One 
>> disadvantage with computer activation is that you have to remove all license 
>> activations if you're formatting the drive. Apart from that, portability is 
>> a big factor for some users.
>> HTH,
>> Slau
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get way too 
>>> long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you with why I ask 
>>> this question. I know typically, this isn't something most people probably 
>>> would do, all be it the option's there, but I have to ask at least this 
>>> much...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one which 
>>> I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require it. I see 
>>> however that when activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I either 
>>> can put the asset on my physical iLok USB dongle, or I can actually put it 
>>> locally on my mac itself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is there a 
>>> limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them instead on my mac? 
>>> Also, having this option, does that mean that technically speaking, as long 
>>> as I don't plan to move around from one system to another, I could 
>>> theoreticly store the asset there instead of on my actual dongle itself? 
>>> Finally, what would be the disadvantages aside the obvious of no 
>>> portability from one system to another of having it stored locally on my 
>>> mac instead of the key itself?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Slau Halatyn]

That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection which can 
certainly be wireless. The connection can technically even be over an iOS 
device. What it does not require is the iLok key itself but an Internet 
connection is the key, so to speak.
HTH,
Slau


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only registration 
> needs a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. , 
> Anyone know why this is the case? I would definately like to have a ilok-less 
> setup. 
> 
> Ronald
> 
> 
>  
>> Op 3 jan. 2020, om 15:08 heeft Christopher Gilland > > het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Slau,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for the answer, 
>> but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on the matter.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Have a wonderful rest of your day.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>> There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location and 
>>> they are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to determine 
>>> whether a license can be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. 
>>> Some developers allow all three while some only allow one or two. The third 
>>> generation iLok can store at least 512 licenses if not more. I'd imagine 
>>> there's no theoretical maximum for computer activation slots. One 
>>> disadvantage with computer activation is that you have to remove all 
>>> license activations if you're formatting the drive. Apart from that, 
>>> portability is a big factor for some users.
>>> HTH,
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland >>> > wrote:
 
 For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get way 
 too long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you with why I 
 ask this question. I know typically, this isn't something most people 
 probably would do, all be it the option's there, but I have to ask at 
 least this much...
 
 
 I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one 
 which I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require it. I 
 see however that when activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I 
 either can put the asset on my physical iLok USB dongle, or I can actually 
 put it locally on my mac itself.
 
 
 I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is there a 
 limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them instead on my 
 mac? Also, having this option, does that mean that technically speaking, 
 as long as I don't plan to move around from one system to another, I could 
 theoreticly store the asset there instead of on my actual dongle itself? 
 Finally, what would be the disadvantages aside the obvious of no 
 portability from one system to another of having it stored locally on my 
 mac instead of the key itself?
 
 
 Chris.
 
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, What would happen if your hard drive crashed with the license on it 
and you had no backup made could the license be restored?  If say I did 
have a full backup could I just restore everything back to the new 
drive?  I am just asking so I would know what I would have to do if 
something happened.  Nick Gawronski

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Slau Halatyn wrote:


Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:32:18 -0500
From: Slau Halatyn 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: PTAccess List 
Subject: Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection which can 
certainly be wireless. The connection can technically even be over an iOS 
device. What it does not require is the iLok key
itself but an Internet connection is the key, so to speak.HTH,
Slau


  On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:

I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only registration needs 
a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. , Anyone know why this is the 
case? I would definately like to
have a ilok-less setup. 

Ronald


 
  Op 3 jan. 2020, om 15:08 heeft Christopher Gilland 
 het volgende geschreven:

Slau,


Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for the answer, 
but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on the matter.


Have a wonderful rest of your day.


Chris.

On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
  There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location 
and they are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to determine 
whether a license can
  be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. Some developers allow 
all three while some only allow one or two. The third generation iLok can store 
at least 512
  licenses if not more. I'd imagine there's no theoretical maximum for 
computer activation slots. One disadvantage with computer activation is that 
you have to remove all
  license activations if you're formatting the drive. Apart from that, 
portability is a big factor for some users.HTH,
Slau


  On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland  
wrote:

For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get way too 
long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you with why I ask this 
question. I know
typically, this isn't something most people probably would do, all be it the 
option's there, but I have to ask at least this much...


I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one which I'm 
using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require it. I see however 
that when
activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I either can put the asset on my 
physical iLok USB dongle, or I can actually put it locally on my mac itself.


I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is there a limit 
on how many assets will fit if I was to store them instead on my mac? Also, 
having this
option, does that mean that technically speaking, as long as I don't plan to 
move around from one system to another, I could theoreticly store the asset 
there instead of on
my actual dongle itself? Finally, what would be the disadvantages aside the 
obvious of no portability from one system to another of having it stored 
locally on my mac
instead of the key itself?


Chris.

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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Slau Halatyn]

My understanding is that the replacement of licenses is up to the discretion of 
the developer. To me, it's kind of a no-brainer to use an iLok key for 
everything if possible. That said, it's also been convenient to just throw a 
license on the drive to free up a USB slot if necessary. Horses for courses, I 
guess.
Slau


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
> 
> Hi, What would happen if your hard drive crashed with the license on it and 
> you had no backup made could the license be restored?  If say I did have a 
> full backup could I just restore everything back to the new drive?  I am just 
> asking so I would know what I would have to do if something happened.  Nick 
> Gawronski
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> 
>> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:32:18 -0500
>> From: Slau Halatyn 
>> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> To: PTAccess List 
>> Subject: Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager
>> That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection which can 
>> certainly be wireless. The connection can technically even be over an iOS 
>> device. What it does not require is the iLok key
>> itself but an Internet connection is the key, so to speak.HTH,
>> Slau
>> 
>>  On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only registration 
>> needs a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. , Anyone know why this 
>> is the case? I would definately like to
>> have a ilok-less setup. 
>> Ronald
>>  
>>  Op 3 jan. 2020, om 15:08 heeft Christopher Gilland 
>>  het volgende geschreven:
>> Slau,
>> Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for the answer, 
>> but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on the matter.
>> Have a wonderful rest of your day.
>> Chris.
>> On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>  There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location 
>> and they are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to 
>> determine whether a license can
>>  be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. Some developers 
>> allow all three while some only allow one or two. The third generation iLok 
>> can store at least 512
>>  licenses if not more. I'd imagine there's no theoretical maximum for 
>> computer activation slots. One disadvantage with computer activation is that 
>> you have to remove all
>>  license activations if you're formatting the drive. Apart from that, 
>> portability is a big factor for some users.HTH,
>> Slau
>> 
>>  On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get way too 
>> long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you with why I ask 
>> this question. I know
>> typically, this isn't something most people probably would do, all be it the 
>> option's there, but I have to ask at least this much...
>> I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one which 
>> I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require it. I see 
>> however that when
>> activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I either can put the asset on 
>> my physical iLok USB dongle, or I can actually put it locally on my mac 
>> itself.
>> I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is there a 
>> limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them instead on my mac? 
>> Also, having this
>> option, does that mean that technically speaking, as long as I don't plan to 
>> move around from one system to another, I could theoreticly store the asset 
>> there instead of on
>> my actual dongle itself? Finally, what would be the disadvantages aside the 
>> obvious of no portability from one system to another of having it stored 
>> locally on my mac
>> instead of the key itself?
>> Chris.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Well that sounds a lot more logical to me slau.
Weird my dealer told me wrong, he is a very experienced guy.
For now I don't really mind using an iLok either. Although I hear at Pro Tools 
startup something about Cloud also.

Ronald

> Op 3 jan. 2020, om 17:32 heeft Slau Halatyn  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection which can 
> certainly be wireless. The connection can technically even be over an iOS 
> device. What it does not require is the iLok key itself but an Internet 
> connection is the key, so to speak.
> HTH,
> Slau
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Ronald van Rhijn > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only registration 
>> needs a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. , 
>> Anyone know why this is the case? I would definately like to have a 
>> ilok-less setup. 
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>> Op 3 jan. 2020, om 15:08 heeft Christopher Gilland >> > het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Slau,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for the 
>>> answer, but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on the matter.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a wonderful rest of your day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location and 
 they are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to 
 determine whether a license can be activated to an iLok, a computer and 
 the cloud. Some developers allow all three while some only allow one or 
 two. The third generation iLok can store at least 512 licenses if not 
 more. I'd imagine there's no theoretical maximum for computer activation 
 slots. One disadvantage with computer activation is that you have to 
 remove all license activations if you're formatting the drive. Apart from 
 that, portability is a big factor for some users.
 HTH,
 Slau
 
 
> On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland  > wrote:
> 
> For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get way 
> too long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you with why I 
> ask this question. I know typically, this isn't something most people 
> probably would do, all be it the option's there, but I have to ask at 
> least this much...
> 
> 
> I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one 
> which I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require it. 
> I see however that when activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I 
> either can put the asset on my physical iLok USB dongle, or I can 
> actually put it locally on my mac itself.
> 
> 
> I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is there a 
> limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them instead on my 
> mac? Also, having this option, does that mean that technically speaking, 
> as long as I don't plan to move around from one system to another, I 
> could theoreticly store the asset there instead of on my actual dongle 
> itself? Finally, what would be the disadvantages aside the obvious of no 
> portability from one system to another of having it stored locally on my 
> mac instead of the key itself?
> 
> 
> Chris.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Slau Halatyn]

Well, I suppose that, when you consider Internet connectivity, regardless of 
whether a wifi network is being used, there's a wire involved to get a network 
connection to a router. Maybe that's what he was thinking? Anyway, yeah, PT 
began supporting cloud activations last year. It's OK, I suppose.
Slau


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Well that sounds a lot more logical to me slau.
> Weird my dealer told me wrong, he is a very experienced guy.
> For now I don't really mind using an iLok either. Although I hear at Pro 
> Tools startup something about Cloud also.
> 
> Ronald
> 
>> Op 3 jan. 2020, om 17:32 heeft Slau Halatyn > > het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection which can 
>> certainly be wireless. The connection can technically even be over an iOS 
>> device. What it does not require is the iLok key itself but an Internet 
>> connection is the key, so to speak.
>> HTH,
>> Slau
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only registration 
>>> needs a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. , 
>>> Anyone know why this is the case? I would definately like to have a 
>>> ilok-less setup. 
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
 Op 3 jan. 2020, om 15:08 heeft Christopher Gilland >>> > het volgende geschreven:
 
 Slau,
 
 
 
 Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for the 
 answer, but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on the matter.
 
 
 
 Have a wonderful rest of your day.
 
 
 
 Chris.
 
 On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location 
> and they are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to 
> determine whether a license can be activated to an iLok, a computer and 
> the cloud. Some developers allow all three while some only allow one or 
> two. The third generation iLok can store at least 512 licenses if not 
> more. I'd imagine there's no theoretical maximum for computer activation 
> slots. One disadvantage with computer activation is that you have to 
> remove all license activations if you're formatting the drive. Apart from 
> that, portability is a big factor for some users.
> HTH,
> Slau
> 
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get way 
>> too long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you with why 
>> I ask this question. I know typically, this isn't something most people 
>> probably would do, all be it the option's there, but I have to ask at 
>> least this much...
>> 
>> 
>> I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one 
>> which I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require it. 
>> I see however that when activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I 
>> either can put the asset on my physical iLok USB dongle, or I can 
>> actually put it locally on my mac itself.
>> 
>> 
>> I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is there a 
>> limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them instead on my 
>> mac? Also, having this option, does that mean that technically speaking, 
>> as long as I don't plan to move around from one system to another, I 
>> could theoreticly store the asset there instead of on my actual dongle 
>> itself? Finally, what would be the disadvantages aside the obvious of no 
>> portability from one system to another of having it stored locally on my 
>> mac instead of the key itself?
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Jesse Kragiel]

One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to use the 
iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I use Main Stage in 
live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home because I don't want it damaged 
or stolen. However, I authorize PT in the cloud, and most of the instruments I 
use have 2 or 3 simultaneous activations allowed, so at least one is always on 
the iLok, which is always plugged into the studio iMac. That's just my scenario.

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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, Can you transfer the license back and forth from a key to your 
computer should you say want to upgrade the operating system and just to 
make sure you don't lose the license?  Nick Gawronski
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, 
Jesse Kragiel wrote:



Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 12:55:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Jesse Kragiel 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: Pro Tools Accessibility 
Subject: Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to use the 
iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I use Main Stage in 
live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home because I don't want it damaged 
or stolen. However, I authorize PT in the cloud, and most of the instruments I 
use have 2 or 3 simultaneous activations allowed, so at least one is always on 
the iLok, which is always plugged into the studio iMac. That's just my scenario.




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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Slau Halatyn]

Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be a USB C 
iLok key. We'll see…
Slau


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel  wrote:
> 
> One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to use the 
> iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I use Main Stage in 
> live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home because I don't want it 
> damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in the cloud, and most of the 
> instruments I use have 2 or 3 simultaneous activations allowed, so at least 
> one is always on the iLok, which is always plugged into the studio iMac. 
> That's just my scenario.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Slau Halatyn]

Yes, you can either transfer to a key or simply deactivate the license and it 
goes back to your iLok account and you can reactivate afterwards.
Slau


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Can you transfer the license back and forth from a key to your computer 
> should you say want to upgrade the operating system and just to make sure you 
> don't lose the license?  Nick Gawronski
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Jesse Kragiel wrote:
> 
>> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 12:55:16 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Jesse Kragiel 
>> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> To: Pro Tools Accessibility 
>> Subject: Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager
>> One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to use the 
>> iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I use Main Stage 
>> in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home because I don't want it 
>> damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in the cloud, and most of the 
>> instruments I use have 2 or 3 simultaneous activations allowed, so at least 
>> one is always on the iLok, which is always plugged into the studio iMac. 
>> That's just my scenario.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Christopher Gilland]

E! I hope and pray that they will not get rid of the iLoks that're 
just regular USB type A. What about people like me who have older macs, 
and can't aford a newer one at the time.



By the way, what is NAMM? I feel dumb for asking, but...


Chris.

On 01/03/2020 04:51 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be a 
USB C iLok key. We'll see…

Slau


On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel > wrote:


One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to 
use the iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I 
use Main Stage in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home 
because I don't want it damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in 
the cloud, and most of the instruments I use have 2 or 3 simultaneous 
activations allowed, so at least one is always on the iLok, which is 
always plugged into the studio iMac. That's just my scenario.


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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Christopher Gilland]

While we're on this subject, what happens if God forbid, I'm activating 
something, and have a power serge, or something just weird glitches, and 
my iLok gets toasted? Would Avid replace the asset? I know they wouldn't 
replace the iLok. That's understandable. I wouldn't expect for them to 
do that, but would they at least! replace the asset, provided I was 
willing to get another iLok at my own expense? If so, I might go ahead 
and order me another one just to have as a backup.



Quite frankly, I want to upgrade my iLok anyway, as I think I might have 
the 1st generation. I know this as, when Ron gots his iLok, I felt his, 
and man! it's physically dementionally in size much smaller, and his 
also doesn't have the little protection cap over the USB end of the 
apparatus.



I got my iLok included in the box with the DVD's to my m-Audio Fast 
Tracks C400 interface back in 2011 when I ordered from Sweetwater. I 
basically got the ProTools 9 MPower bundle with the interface. This is 
why I'm saying, I think I have the 1st gen. Also, it's already half full 
with licenses I need, I do believe. If I remember this correctly, Slau, 
you or someone else will have to confirm this, but didn't the 1st gens 
only give you 100 assets? I'm already up to 40. So, yeah...



Chris.

On 01/03/2020 02:24 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
My understanding is that the replacement of licenses is up to the 
discretion of the developer. To me, it's kind of a no-brainer to use 
an iLok key for everything if possible. That said, it's also been 
convenient to just throw a license on the drive to free up a USB slot 
if necessary. Horses for courses, I guess.

Slau


On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Nick Gawronski <mailto:n...@nickgawronski.com>> wrote:


Hi, What would happen if your hard drive crashed with the license on 
it and you had no backup made could the license be restored?  If say 
I did have a full backup could I just restore everything back to the 
new drive?  I am just asking so I would know what I would have to do 
if something happened.  Nick Gawronski

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Slau Halatyn wrote:


Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:32:18 -0500
From: Slau Halatyn <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>>

Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
To: PTAccess List <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>>

Subject: Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager
That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection which 
can certainly be wireless. The connection can technically even be 
over an iOS device. What it does not require is the iLok key

itself but an Internet connection is the key, so to speak.HTH,
Slau

 On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only 
registration needs a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. 
, Anyone know why this is the case? I would definately like to

have a ilok-less setup.
Ronald

 Op 3 jan. 2020, om 15:08 heeft Christopher Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> het volgende 
geschreven:

Slau,
Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for the 
answer, but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on the matter.

Have a wonderful rest of your day.
Chris.
On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to 
location and they are determined by the developer. It's up to the 
developer to determine whether a license can
 be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. Some 
developers allow all three while some only allow one or two. The 
third generation iLok can store at least 512
 licenses if not more. I'd imagine there's no theoretical 
maximum for computer activation slots. One disadvantage with 
computer activation is that you have to remove all
 license activations if you're formatting the drive. Apart from 
that, portability is a big factor for some users.HTH,

Slau

 On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get 
way too long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you 
with why I ask this question. I know
typically, this isn't something most people probably would do, all 
be it the option's there, but I have to ask at least this much...
I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have 
one which I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which 
require it. I see however that when
activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I either can put the 
asset on my physical iLok USB dongle, or I can actually put it 
locally on my mac itself.
I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is 
there a limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them 

Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[TheOreoMonster]

Chris, usb-c to usb A and vice versa converters are like $5. So if they ever do 
switch the iLok’s over which they probably will at some point in the distant 
future you will be fine. 


> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:27 AM, Christopher Gilland  wrote:
> 
> E! I hope and pray that they will not get rid of the iLoks that're just 
> regular USB type A. What about people like me who have older macs, and can't 
> aford a newer one at the time.
> 
> 
> 
> By the way, what is NAMM? I feel dumb for asking, but...
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On 01/03/2020 04:51 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be a USB C 
>> iLok key. We'll see…
>> Slau
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to use the 
>>> iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I use Main Stage 
>>> in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home because I don't want it 
>>> damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in the cloud, and most of the 
>>> instruments I use have 2 or 3 simultaneous activations allowed, so at least 
>>> one is always on the iLok, which is always plugged into the studio iMac. 
>>> That's just my scenario.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[TheOreoMonster]

Chris you have a gen 2 iLok. I got mine earlier than 2011 with ProTools 9 also 
and it ws a gen 2. The really small ones are gen 3. Also Gen 1 is no longer 
supported by a lot of licenses so it’s safe to assume you have a gen 2. 


> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:38 AM, Christopher Gilland  wrote:
> 
> While we're on this subject, what happens if God forbid, I'm activating 
> something, and have a power serge, or something just weird glitches, and my 
> iLok gets toasted? Would Avid replace the asset? I know they wouldn't replace 
> the iLok. That's understandable. I wouldn't expect for them to do that, but 
> would they at least! replace the asset, provided I was willing to get another 
> iLok at my own expense? If so, I might go ahead and order me another one just 
> to have as a backup.
> 
> 
> 
> Quite frankly, I want to upgrade my iLok anyway, as I think I might have the 
> 1st generation. I know this as, when Ron gots his iLok, I felt his, and man! 
> it's physically dementionally in size much smaller, and his also doesn't have 
> the little protection cap over the USB end of the apparatus.
> 
> 
> 
> I got my iLok included in the box with the DVD's to my m-Audio Fast Tracks 
> C400 interface back in 2011 when I ordered from Sweetwater. I basically got 
> the ProTools 9 MPower bundle with the interface. This is why I'm saying, I 
> think I have the 1st gen. Also, it's already half full with licenses I need, 
> I do believe. If I remember this correctly, Slau, you or someone else will 
> have to confirm this, but didn't the 1st gens only give you 100 assets? I'm 
> already up to 40. So, yeah...
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On 01/03/2020 02:24 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> My understanding is that the replacement of licenses is up to the discretion 
>> of the developer. To me, it's kind of a no-brainer to use an iLok key for 
>> everything if possible. That said, it's also been convenient to just throw a 
>> license on the drive to free up a USB slot if necessary. Horses for courses, 
>> I guess.
>> Slau
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Nick Gawronski >> <mailto:n...@nickgawronski.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, What would happen if your hard drive crashed with the license on it and 
>>> you had no backup made could the license be restored?  If say I did have a 
>>> full backup could I just restore everything back to the new drive?  I am 
>>> just asking so I would know what I would have to do if something happened.  
>>> Nick Gawronski
>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:32:18 -0500
>>>> From: Slau Halatyn mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>>
>>>> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
>>>> To: PTAccess List >>> <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>>
>>>> Subject: Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager
>>>> That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection which can 
>>>> certainly be wireless. The connection can technically even be over an iOS 
>>>> device. What it does not require is the iLok key
>>>> itself but an Internet connection is the key, so to speak.HTH,
>>>> Slau
>>>> 
>>>>  On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>> I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only registration 
>>>> needs a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. , Anyone know why this 
>>>> is the case? I would definately like to
>>>> have a ilok-less setup. 
>>>> Ronald
>>>>  
>>>>  Op 3 jan. 2020, om 15:08 heeft Christopher Gilland 
>>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> het volgende 
>>>> geschreven:
>>>> Slau,
>>>> Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for the 
>>>> answer, but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on the matter.
>>>> Have a wonderful rest of your day.
>>>> Chris.
>>>> On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>>>  There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to 
>>>> location and they are determined by the developer. It's up to the 
>>>> developer to determine whether a license can
>>>>  be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. Some developers 
>>>> allow all three while some only allow one or two. The third generation 
>>>> iLok can store

Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Ronald van Rhijn]

NAMM stands for the National Association of Music Merchants and is a trade 
organization for music gear ...
This years trade show is from january 16 to 19 january.

hth,
Ronald

> Op 4 jan. 2020, om 10:27 heeft Christopher Gilland  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> E! I hope and pray that they will not get rid of the iLoks that're just 
> regular USB type A. What about people like me who have older macs, and can't 
> aford a newer one at the time.
> 
> 
> 
> By the way, what is NAMM? I feel dumb for asking, but...
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On 01/03/2020 04:51 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be a USB C 
>> iLok key. We'll see…
>> Slau
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to use the 
>>> iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I use Main Stage 
>>> in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home because I don't want it 
>>> damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in the cloud, and most of the 
>>> instruments I use have 2 or 3 simultaneous activations allowed, so at least 
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Christopher Gilland]

Would you happen to know if they stream their presentations?


Chris.

On 01/04/2020 07:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
NAMM stands for the National Association of Music Merchants and is a 
trade organization for music gear ...

This years trade show is from january 16 to 19 january.

hth,
Ronald

Op 4 jan. 2020, om 10:27 heeft Christopher Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> het volgende 
geschreven:


E! I hope and pray that they will not get rid of the iLoks 
that're just regular USB type A. What about people like me who have 
older macs, and can't aford a newer one at the time.



By the way, what is NAMM? I feel dumb for asking, but...


Chris.

On 01/03/2020 04:51 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be 
a USB C iLok key. We'll see…

Slau


On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel > wrote:


One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to 
use the iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I 
use Main Stage in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home 
because I don't want it damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT 
in the cloud, and most of the instruments I use have 2 or 3 
simultaneous activations allowed, so at least one is always on the 
iLok, which is always plugged into the studio iMac. That's just my 
scenario.


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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Christopher Gilland]

Aa, OK then? How many licenses does the 2nd! um, I guess, LOL, iLok hold 
as aposed to the 3rd gen? Again, LOL!



Chris.

On 01/04/2020 07:33 AM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
Chris you have a gen 2 iLok. I got mine earlier than 2011 with 
ProTools 9 also and it ws a gen 2. The really small ones are gen 3. 
Also Gen 1 is no longer supported by a lot of licenses so it’s safe to 
assume you have a gen 2.



On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:38 AM, Christopher Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


While we're on this subject, what happens if God forbid, I'm 
activating something, and have a power serge, or something just weird 
glitches, and my iLok gets toasted? Would Avid replace the asset? I 
know they wouldn't replace the iLok. That's understandable. I 
wouldn't expect for them to do that, but would they at least! replace 
the asset, provided I was willing to get another iLok at my own 
expense? If so, I might go ahead and order me another one just to 
have as a backup.



Quite frankly, I want to upgrade my iLok anyway, as I think I might 
have the 1st generation. I know this as, when Ron gots his iLok, I 
felt his, and man! it's physically dementionally in size much 
smaller, and his also doesn't have the little protection cap over the 
USB end of the apparatus.



I got my iLok included in the box with the DVD's to my m-Audio Fast 
Tracks C400 interface back in 2011 when I ordered from Sweetwater. I 
basically got the ProTools 9 MPower bundle with the interface. This 
is why I'm saying, I think I have the 1st gen. Also, it's already 
half full with licenses I need, I do believe. If I remember this 
correctly, Slau, you or someone else will have to confirm this, but 
didn't the 1st gens only give you 100 assets? I'm already up to 40. 
So, yeah...



Chris.

On 01/03/2020 02:24 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
My understanding is that the replacement of licenses is up to the 
discretion of the developer. To me, it's kind of a no-brainer to use 
an iLok key for everything if possible. That said, it's also been 
convenient to just throw a license on the drive to free up a USB 
slot if necessary. Horses for courses, I guess.

Slau


On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Nick Gawronski <mailto:n...@nickgawronski.com>> wrote:


Hi, What would happen if your hard drive crashed with the license 
on it and you had no backup made could the license be restored?  If 
say I did have a full backup could I just restore everything back 
to the new drive?  I am just asking so I would know what I would 
have to do if something happened.  Nick Gawronski

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Slau Halatyn wrote:


Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:32:18 -0500
From: Slau Halatyn <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>>

Reply-To:ptaccess@googlegroups.com <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
To: PTAccess List <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>>

Subject: Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager
That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection 
which can certainly be wireless. The connection can technically 
even be over an iOS device. What it does not require is the iLok key

itself but an Internet connection is the key, so to speak.HTH,
Slau

 On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Ronald van Rhijn 
mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only 
registration needs a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. 
, Anyone know why this is the case? I would definately like to

have a ilok-less setup.
Ronald

 Op 3 jan. 2020, om 15:08 heeft Christopher Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> het 
volgende geschreven:

Slau,
Thank you for your help. That's pretty much what i suspected for 
the answer, but I definitely do appreciate your confirmation on 
the matter.

Have a wonderful rest of your day.
Chris.
On 01/02/2020 11:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to 
location and they are determined by the developer. It's up to the 
developer to determine whether a license can
 be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. Some 
developers allow all three while some only allow one or two. The 
third generation iLok can store at least 512
 licenses if not more. I'd imagine there's no theoretical 
maximum for computer activation slots. One disadvantage with 
computer activation is that you have to remove all
 license activations if you're formatting the drive. Apart 
from that, portability is a big factor for some users.HTH,

Slau

 On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would 
get way too long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore 
you with why I ask this question. I know
typically, this isn't something most people probably would do, all 
be it the option's there, but I have 

Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Slau Halatyn]

Pace's web site states the following:
. A single iLok USB can store up to 1500 separate licenses (3rd generation), 
500 separate licenses (2nd generation), or 118 separate licenses (1st 
generation).

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Christopher Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Aa, OK then? How many licenses does the 2nd! um, I guess, LOL, iLok hold as 
> aposed to the 3rd gen? Again, LOL!
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On 01/04/2020 07:33 AM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>> Chris you have a gen 2 iLok. I got mine earlier than 2011 with ProTools 9 
>> also and it ws a gen 2. The really small ones are gen 3. Also Gen 1 is no 
>> longer supported by a lot of licenses so it’s safe to assume you have a gen 
>> 2. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:38 AM, Christopher Gilland >> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> While we're on this subject, what happens if God forbid, I'm activating 
>>> something, and have a power serge, or something just weird glitches, and my 
>>> iLok gets toasted? Would Avid replace the asset? I know they wouldn't 
>>> replace the iLok. That's understandable. I wouldn't expect for them to do 
>>> that, but would they at least! replace the asset, provided I was willing to 
>>> get another iLok at my own expense? If so, I might go ahead and order me 
>>> another one just to have as a backup.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Quite frankly, I want to upgrade my iLok anyway, as I think I might have 
>>> the 1st generation. I know this as, when Ron gots his iLok, I felt his, and 
>>> man! it's physically dementionally in size much smaller, and his also 
>>> doesn't have the little protection cap over the USB end of the apparatus.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I got my iLok included in the box with the DVD's to my m-Audio Fast Tracks 
>>> C400 interface back in 2011 when I ordered from Sweetwater. I basically got 
>>> the ProTools 9 MPower bundle with the interface. This is why I'm saying, I 
>>> think I have the 1st gen. Also, it's already half full with licenses I 
>>> need, I do believe. If I remember this correctly, Slau, you or someone else 
>>> will have to confirm this, but didn't the 1st gens only give you 100 
>>> assets? I'm already up to 40. So, yeah...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> On 01/03/2020 02:24 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>>> My understanding is that the replacement of licenses is up to the 
>>>> discretion of the developer. To me, it's kind of a no-brainer to use an 
>>>> iLok key for everything if possible. That said, it's also been convenient 
>>>> to just throw a license on the drive to free up a USB slot if necessary. 
>>>> Horses for courses, I guess.
>>>> Slau
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Nick Gawronski >>>> <mailto:n...@nickgawronski.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, What would happen if your hard drive crashed with the license on it 
>>>>> and you had no backup made could the license be restored?  If say I did 
>>>>> have a full backup could I just restore everything back to the new drive? 
>>>>>  I am just asking so I would know what I would have to do if something 
>>>>> happened.  Nick Gawronski
>>>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:32:18 -0500
>>>>>> From: Slau Halatyn mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> To: PTAccess List >>>>> <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager
>>>>>> That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection which can 
>>>>>> certainly be wireless. The connection can technically even be over an 
>>>>>> iOS device. What it does not require is the iLok key
>>>>>> itself but an Internet connection is the key, so to speak.HTH,
>>>>>> Slau
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>>>> I have learned from my Pro Tools dealer that the Cloud only registration 
>>>>>> needs a wired internet connection, no wifi will do. , An

Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Don’t know, sorry.



> Op 4 jan. 2020, om 17:50 heeft Christopher Gilland  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Would you happen to know if they stream their presentations?
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On 01/04/2020 07:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
>> NAMM stands for the National Association of Music Merchants and is a trade 
>> organization for music gear ...
>> This years trade show is from january 16 to 19 january.
>> 
>> hth,
>> Ronald
>> 
>>> Op 4 jan. 2020, om 10:27 heeft Christopher Gilland >> > het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> E! I hope and pray that they will not get rid of the iLoks that're just 
>>> regular USB type A. What about people like me who have older macs, and 
>>> can't aford a newer one at the time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> By the way, what is NAMM? I feel dumb for asking, but...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> On 01/03/2020 04:51 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be a USB 
 C iLok key. We'll see…
 Slau
 
 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel  > wrote:
> 
> One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to use 
> the iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I use Main 
> Stage in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home because I don't 
> want it damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in the cloud, and most 
> of the instruments I use have 2 or 3 simultaneous activations allowed, so 
> at least one is always on the iLok, which is always plugged into the 
> studio iMac. That's just my scenario.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

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Panels aren't streamed but sometimes recorded. Main show floor presentations 
are sometimes streamed. Not sure if this year's stuff will be. FWIW, the Pro 
Tools / Sibelius accessibility presentations by me and Chi will be on Saturday 
at 5 P.M. and Sunday at 3:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time.
Slau


> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Don’t know, sorry.
> 
> 
> 
>> Op 4 jan. 2020, om 17:50 heeft Christopher Gilland > > het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Would you happen to know if they stream their presentations?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On 01/04/2020 07:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
>>> NAMM stands for the National Association of Music Merchants and is a trade 
>>> organization for music gear ...
>>> This years trade show is from january 16 to 19 january.
>>> 
>>> hth,
>>> Ronald
>>> 
 Op 4 jan. 2020, om 10:27 heeft Christopher Gilland >>> > het volgende geschreven:
 
 E! I hope and pray that they will not get rid of the iLoks that're 
 just regular USB type A. What about people like me who have older macs, 
 and can't aford a newer one at the time.
 
 
 
 By the way, what is NAMM? I feel dumb for asking, but...
 
 
 
 Chris.
 
 On 01/03/2020 04:51 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be a USB 
> C iLok key. We'll see…
> Slau
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel > > wrote:
>> 
>> One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to use 
>> the iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I use Main 
>> Stage in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home because I don't 
>> want it damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in the cloud, and 
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Ronald J. Glaser]

would you happen to know,  if namm has a YouTube channel?

A Smile on your face shows Gods grace!

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Panels aren't streamed but sometimes recorded. Main show floor presentations 
> are sometimes streamed. Not sure if this year's stuff will be. FWIW, the Pro 
> Tools / Sibelius accessibility presentations by me and Chi will be on 
> Saturday at 5 P.M. and Sunday at 3:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time.
> Slau
> 
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Don’t know, sorry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 4 jan. 2020, om 17:50 heeft Christopher Gilland  
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Would you happen to know if they stream their presentations?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
 On 01/04/2020 07:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
 NAMM stands for the National Association of Music Merchants and is a trade 
 organization for music gear ...
 This years trade show is from january 16 to 19 january.
 
 hth,
 Ronald
 
> Op 4 jan. 2020, om 10:27 heeft Christopher Gilland 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> E! I hope and pray that they will not get rid of the iLoks that're 
> just regular USB type A. What about people like me who have older macs, 
> and can't aford a newer one at the time.
> 
> 
> 
> By the way, what is NAMM? I feel dumb for asking, but...
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
>> On 01/03/2020 04:51 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be a 
>> USB C iLok key. We'll see…
>> Slau
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to use 
>>> the iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I use 
>>> Main Stage in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home because I 
>>> don't want it damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in the cloud, 
>>> and most of the instruments I use have 2 or 3 simultaneous activations 
>>> allowed, so at least one is always on the iLok, which is always plugged 
>>> into the studio iMac. That's just my scenario.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Ronald J. Glaser]

my eye lock, is a third GEN. I’m glad to know that. Because then I can start a 
lot more assets. Then on a second GEN. That is really good to know. Thanks for 
letting us know that.

A Smile on your face shows Gods grace!

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Pace's web site states the following:
> . A single iLok USB can store up to 1500 separate licenses (3rd generation), 
> 500 separate licenses (2nd generation), or 118 separate licenses (1st 
> generation).
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Christopher Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Aa, OK then? How many licenses does the 2nd! um, I guess, LOL, iLok hold as 
>> aposed to the 3rd gen? Again, LOL!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>>> On 01/04/2020 07:33 AM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>> Chris you have a gen 2 iLok. I got mine earlier than 2011 with ProTools 9 
>>> also and it ws a gen 2. The really small ones are gen 3. Also Gen 1 is no 
>>> longer supported by a lot of licenses so it’s safe to assume you have a gen 
>>> 2. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:38 AM, Christopher Gilland  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> While we're on this subject, what happens if God forbid, I'm activating 
>>>> something, and have a power serge, or something just weird glitches, and 
>>>> my iLok gets toasted? Would Avid replace the asset? I know they wouldn't 
>>>> replace the iLok. That's understandable. I wouldn't expect for them to do 
>>>> that, but would they at least! replace the asset, provided I was willing 
>>>> to get another iLok at my own expense? If so, I might go ahead and order 
>>>> me another one just to have as a backup.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Quite frankly, I want to upgrade my iLok anyway, as I think I might have 
>>>> the 1st generation. I know this as, when Ron gots his iLok, I felt his, 
>>>> and man! it's physically dementionally in size much smaller, and his also 
>>>> doesn't have the little protection cap over the USB end of the apparatus.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I got my iLok included in the box with the DVD's to my m-Audio Fast Tracks 
>>>> C400 interface back in 2011 when I ordered from Sweetwater. I basically 
>>>> got the ProTools 9 MPower bundle with the interface. This is why I'm 
>>>> saying, I think I have the 1st gen. Also, it's already half full with 
>>>> licenses I need, I do believe. If I remember this correctly, Slau, you or 
>>>> someone else will have to confirm this, but didn't the 1st gens only give 
>>>> you 100 assets? I'm already up to 40. So, yeah...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 01/03/2020 02:24 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>>>> My understanding is that the replacement of licenses is up to the 
>>>>> discretion of the developer. To me, it's kind of a no-brainer to use an 
>>>>> iLok key for everything if possible. That said, it's also been convenient 
>>>>> to just throw a license on the drive to free up a USB slot if necessary. 
>>>>> Horses for courses, I guess.
>>>>> Slau
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Nick Gawronski  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, What would happen if your hard drive crashed with the license on it 
>>>>>> and you had no backup made could the license be restored?  If say I did 
>>>>>> have a full backup could I just restore everything back to the new 
>>>>>> drive?  I am just asking so I would know what I would have to do if 
>>>>>> something happened.  Nick Gawronski
>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 11:32:18 -0500
>>>>>>> From: Slau Halatyn 
>>>>>>> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> To: PTAccess List 
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager
>>>>>>> That's not correct. What it requires is an Internet connection which 
>>>>>>> can certainly be wireless. The connection can technically even be over 
>>>>>>> an iOS device. What it does not require is the iLok key
>>>>>>> itself but an Internet con

Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[John André Lium-Netland]

Does anyone here have bad experience with using cloud-only licences instead of 
the USB iLok? Except for the obvious one that you’ll not be able to use your 
DAW and plugins if your internet connection is down…..?

On 03 Jan 2020, at 05:04, Slau Halatyn  wrote:

There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location and they 
are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to determine whether 
a license can be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. Some 
developers allow all three while some only allow one or two. The third 
generation iLok can store at least 512 licenses if not more. I'd imagine 
there's no theoretical maximum for computer activation slots. One disadvantage 
with computer activation is that you have to remove all license activations if 
you're formatting the drive. Apart from that, portability is a big factor for 
some users.
HTH,
Slau


> On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland  > wrote:
> 
> For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get way too 
> long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you with why I ask 
> this question. I know typically, this isn't something most people probably 
> would do, all be it the option's there, but I have to ask at least this 
> much...
> 
> 
> I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one which 
> I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require it. I see 
> however that when activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I either can 
> put the asset on my physical iLok USB dongle, or I can actually put it 
> locally on my mac itself.
> 
> 
> I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is there a 
> limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them instead on my mac? 
> Also, having this option, does that mean that technically speaking, as long 
> as I don't plan to move around from one system to another, I could 
> theoreticly store the asset there instead of on my actual dongle itself? 
> Finally, what would be the disadvantages aside the obvious of no portability 
> from one system to another of having it stored locally on my mac instead of 
> the key itself?
> 
> 
> Chris.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Slau Halatyn]

No idea whether they do anything on YouTube. I'd imagine they'd simply host it 
on their web site.
Slau


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:51 AM, Ronald J. Glaser  wrote:
> 
> would you happen to know,  if namm has a YouTube channel?
> 
> A Smile on your face shows Gods grace!
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> Panels aren't streamed but sometimes recorded. Main show floor 
>> presentations are sometimes streamed. Not sure if this year's stuff will be. 
>> FWIW, the Pro Tools / Sibelius accessibility presentations by me and Chi 
>> will be on Saturday at 5 P.M. and Sunday at 3:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time.
>> Slau
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Ronald van Rhijn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don’t know, sorry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Op 4 jan. 2020, om 17:50 heeft Christopher Gilland >>> > het volgende geschreven:
 
 Would you happen to know if they stream their presentations?
 
 
 
 Chris.
 
 On 01/04/2020 07:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
> NAMM stands for the National Association of Music Merchants and is a 
> trade organization for music gear ...
> This years trade show is from january 16 to 19 january.
> 
> hth,
> Ronald
> 
>> Op 4 jan. 2020, om 10:27 heeft Christopher Gilland 
>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>> E! I hope and pray that they will not get rid of the iLoks that're 
>> just regular USB type A. What about people like me who have older macs, 
>> and can't aford a newer one at the time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> By the way, what is NAMM? I feel dumb for asking, but...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On 01/03/2020 04:51 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>> Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be a 
>>> USB C iLok key. We'll see…
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel >>> > wrote:
 
 One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to 
 use the iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I 
 use Main Stage in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home 
 because I don't want it damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in 
 the cloud, and most of the instruments I use have 2 or 3 simultaneous 
 activations allowed, so at least one is always on the iLok, which is 
 always plugged into the studio iMac. That's just my scenario.
 
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[TheOreoMonster]

The different brands may do stuff from their booths or press conferences on 
youtube. The panels put on by the NAMM organizations or brands on the other 
hand are a little harder to find online after the fact if you didn’t attend 
them in person. 


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> No idea whether they do anything on YouTube. I'd imagine they'd simply host 
> it on their web site.
> Slau
> 
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:51 AM, Ronald J. Glaser > > wrote:
>> 
>> would you happen to know,  if namm has a YouTube channel?
>> 
>> A Smile on your face shows Gods grace!
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Slau Halatyn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Panels aren't streamed but sometimes recorded. Main show floor 
>>> presentations are sometimes streamed. Not sure if this year's stuff will 
>>> be. FWIW, the Pro Tools / Sibelius accessibility presentations by me and 
>>> Chi will be on Saturday at 5 P.M. and Sunday at 3:30 P.M. Pacific Standard 
>>> Time.
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Ronald van Rhijn >>> > wrote:
 
 Don’t know, sorry.
 
 
 
> Op 4 jan. 2020, om 17:50 heeft Christopher Gilland  > het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Would you happen to know if they stream their presentations?
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On 01/04/2020 07:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
>> NAMM stands for the National Association of Music Merchants and is a 
>> trade organization for music gear ...
>> This years trade show is from january 16 to 19 january.
>> 
>> hth,
>> Ronald
>> 
>>> Op 4 jan. 2020, om 10:27 heeft Christopher Gilland 
>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> het volgende 
>>> geschreven:
>>> 
>>> E! I hope and pray that they will not get rid of the iLoks that're 
>>> just regular USB type A. What about people like me who have older macs, 
>>> and can't aford a newer one at the time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> By the way, what is NAMM? I feel dumb for asking, but...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> On 01/03/2020 04:51 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Actually, I think one of the announcements at NAMM will probably be a 
 USB C iLok key. We'll see…
 Slau
 
 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jesse Kragiel  > wrote:
> 
> One issue is that all the new Mac laptops are USB C, so in order to 
> use the iLok key, you'd need an adapter or hub to make it happen. I 
> use Main Stage in live settings, and I leave my iLok key at home 
> because I don't want it damaged or stolen. However, I authorize PT in 
> the cloud, and most of the instruments I use have 2 or 3 simultaneous 
> activations allowed, so at least one is always on the iLok, which is 
> always plugged into the studio iMac. That's just my scenario.
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Re: Question about iLoks and the iLok manager

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Havent done much in Pro Tools yet but have probably opted for the Cloud only 
licensing because when I start pro Tools without an iLok connected it checks 
the Cloud and Pro Tools starts working. And this is indeed on a Wifi connection 
only.
Perhaps it checks the Cloud now because there’s no iLok found, this I don’t 
know. I only have Pro Tools installed at the moment FYI.

Ronald

> Op 5 jan. 2020, om 16:01 heeft John André Lium-Netland 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Does anyone here have bad experience with using cloud-only licences instead 
> of the USB iLok? Except for the obvious one that you’ll not be able to use 
> your DAW and plugins if your internet connection is down…..?
> 
> On 03 Jan 2020, at 05:04, Slau Halatyn  > wrote:
> 
> There are 3 main variables to iLok licensing as it relates to location and 
> they are determined by the developer. It's up to the developer to determine 
> whether a license can be activated to an iLok, a computer and the cloud. Some 
> developers allow all three while some only allow one or two. The third 
> generation iLok can store at least 512 licenses if not more. I'd imagine 
> there's no theoretical maximum for computer activation slots. One 
> disadvantage with computer activation is that you have to remove all license 
> activations if you're formatting the drive. Apart from that, portability is a 
> big factor for some users.
> HTH,
> Slau
> 
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> For reasons which go beyond the scope of this e-mail, and would get way too 
>> long-winded for me to attempt explaining, I won't bore you with why I ask 
>> this question. I know typically, this isn't something most people probably 
>> would do, all be it the option's there, but I have to ask at least this 
>> much...
>> 
>> 
>> I know that 1 iLok costs around $50USD. Obviously, I already have one which 
>> I'm using with ProTools, as well as some plugins which require it. I see 
>> however that when activating a plugin through the iLok manager, I either can 
>> put the asset on my physical iLok USB dongle, or I can actually put it 
>> locally on my mac itself.
>> 
>> 
>> I guess my main question is, like there is on an iLok dongle, is there a 
>> limit on how many assets will fit if I was to store them instead on my mac? 
>> Also, having this option, does that mean that technically speaking, as long 
>> as I don't plan to move around from one system to another, I could 
>> theoreticly store the asset there instead of on my actual dongle itself? 
>> Finally, what would be the disadvantages aside the obvious of no portability 
>> from one system to another of having it stored locally on my mac instead of 
>> the key itself?
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
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