Re: Questions about Clips
Hi Slau, Again, thanks for the clear explanation. I guess the best way is to audition each files, import the one I want onto new track, edit, and move it back to the original track. I wasn't sure if there was any other easier way to do this. I have another question which I might know the answer. I just want to make sure I'm not missing on a better way to do this. Let's say you want to punch a certain section a few times and select the best one later, and the players also want to hear the little bit of pre roll materials that lead into the punch in section. What's the best way to do this? If you create a new playlist for all the tracks, I assume the players won't be able to hear the pre-roll material before the punch in begins. IF you just punch over the original track, you can hear the pre. However, you'll just over riding it every time a new pass gets recorded. Pro Tools probably keeps the old ones in the clip list, but then you have to swap them around with dragging. Then, is the best way just duplicating the playlist before recording? Also, duplicating the playlist doesn't increase the project size, right? Pro Tools just refers to the original wave files instead of copying them. Thanks, On 10/30/2013 12:40 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi James, 1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate to the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track radio button. 2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or playlists). The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is created when a track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to be done, it's simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v shortcut but, first, you'll have to pass through the shortcut because VoiceOver uses it for adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to the master, you can't hear it in context, that is, with the audio that precedes or follows it. I suppose one can just listen to those transitions later and fix them as needed. My personal preference is to actually navigate to the master playlist and audition the beginnings and endings on the spot. 3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember somebody trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be. Cheers, slau On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote: HI Slau, Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few more questions. You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. Question: How do you import a clip to a new track? You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste. Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose a different playlist, and then play. Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and then paste. You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats. Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 4.4.270? Thank you again. On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi James, I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now. 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list? Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad. 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip. This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. It used to be
Re: Questions about Clips
When you create a new playlist, it doesn't increase anything until you record new punch-ins. If you duplicate the playlist rather than creating a new playlist, all of the previously recorded material is in the playlist so the artist still has context. There is a method that is not currently accessible for auditioning clips within a playlist. You select a range, enable pre/post roll and choose Loop Record. The section will loop and record each pass until you press stop. If it looped 4 full times, you'll have 4 clips. If you click right on the clip in the playlist with a particular modifier, you can flip between clips. Now that I think of it, that might now be possible under the Clips menu but I could be wrong. I'll see if I can verify that this afternoon. Best, Slau On Nov 2, 2013, at 6:36 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Again, thanks for the clear explanation. I guess the best way is to audition each files, import the one I want onto new track, edit, and move it back to the original track. I wasn't sure if there was any other easier way to do this. I have another question which I might know the answer. I just want to make sure I'm not missing on a better way to do this. Let's say you want to punch a certain section a few times and select the best one later, and the players also want to hear the little bit of pre roll materials that lead into the punch in section. What's the best way to do this? If you create a new playlist for all the tracks, I assume the players won't be able to hear the pre-roll material before the punch in begins. IF you just punch over the original track, you can hear the pre. However, you'll just over riding it every time a new pass gets recorded. Pro Tools probably keeps the old ones in the clip list, but then you have to swap them around with dragging. Then, is the best way just duplicating the playlist before recording? Also, duplicating the playlist doesn't increase the project size, right? Pro Tools just refers to the original wave files instead of copying them. Thanks, On 10/30/2013 12:40 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi James, 1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate to the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track radio button. 2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or playlists). The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is created when a track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to be done, it's simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v shortcut but, first, you'll have to pass through the shortcut because VoiceOver uses it for adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to the master, you can't hear it in context, that is, with the audio that precedes or follows it. I suppose one can just listen to those transitions later and fix them as needed. My personal preference is to actually navigate to the master playlist and audition the beginnings and endings on the spot. 3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember somebody trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be. Cheers, slau On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote: HI Slau, Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few more questions. You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. Question: How do you import a clip to a new track? You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste. Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose a different playlist, and then play. Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and then paste. You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats. Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that clip to
Re: Questions about Clips
Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 4.4.270? In this case i honestly would just select the clip at 5.1.270, cut it move to 5.1.0 and paste it. On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote: Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 4.4.270? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Questions about Clips
HI Slau, Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few more questions. You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. Question: How do you import a clip to a new track? You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste. Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose a different playlist, and then play. Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and then paste. You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats. Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 4.4.270? Thank you again. On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi James, I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now. 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list? Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad. 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip. This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't guarantee success. If you hide all tracks except for the track to which you'd like to drag the clip and set its display to jumbo or extreme, you can route the mouse pointer to the clip, click and drag the clip to the center of the track pad and let go. You'll need to pay attention to whether you have any regions in the track already because you may inadvertently drop a clip right on top of another. If you include a modifier before the mouse down, you can get different results like snapping to the insertion point or activating the spot dialog where you can specify the location where the clip should go. The alternative is to import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. I should also point out that, if you're dealing with clips from various takes, it's best to create playlists for each take so that each take is easily accessible. Using the name of the track as the basic playlist works best. For example, create a track named Vocal and duplicate it. The resulting track name, and therefore playlist, becomes Vocal01. As you record onto this track, the filenames will start with Vocal.01-01, Vocal.01-02, Vocal.01_03, etc. This is all vocal take one. When you're ready for take two, create a new playlist and the track name will automatically be Vocal.02 and the filenames will all be .02_01, .02_02, .02_03, etc. In the end, copy the best take into the original playlist named Vocal and then use bits of whichever take is best for any given line, phrase, word, etc. If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste. 3. Also, is there a shortcut to nudge a selected clip to a closest grid without cutting and pasting? I never use Grid mode so I can't comment. I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats. 4. Let's say I have clip A on bar 1 and clip B on bar 2, and both are 1 bar long. I accidentally nudged Clip A to bar 2, so they overlap exactly on the same spot. Then how can I choose clip A or clip B? If the two clips are exactly the same length and you've nudged one on top of another, it's not possible to select the one beneath, at least as far as I can tell. Now, that may be different in version 11 and I don't know off the top of my head. I won't be able to check that for another day or so. Of
Re: Questions about Clips
Hi James, 1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate to the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track radio button. 2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or playlists). The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is created when a track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to be done, it's simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v shortcut but, first, you'll have to pass through the shortcut because VoiceOver uses it for adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to the master, you can't hear it in context, that is, with the audio that precedes or follows it. I suppose one can just listen to those transitions later and fix them as needed. My personal preference is to actually navigate to the master playlist and audition the beginnings and endings on the spot. 3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember somebody trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be. Cheers, slau On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote: HI Slau, Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few more questions. You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. Question: How do you import a clip to a new track? You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste. Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose a different playlist, and then play. Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and then paste. You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats. Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 4.4.270? Thank you again. On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi James, I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now. 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list? Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad. 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip. This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't guarantee success. If you hide all tracks except for the track to which you'd like to drag the clip and set its display to jumbo or extreme, you can route the mouse pointer to the clip, click and drag the clip to the center of the track pad and let go. You'll need to pay attention to whether you have any regions in the track already because you may inadvertently drop a clip right on top of another. If you include a modifier before the mouse down, you can get different results like snapping to the insertion point or activating the spot dialog where you can specify the location where the clip should go. The alternative is to import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. I should also point out that, if you're dealing with clips from various takes, it's best to create playlists for each take so that each take is easily accessible. Using the name of the track as the basic playlist works best. For example, create a track named Vocal and duplicate it. The resulting track name, and
Re: Questions about Clips
Slau, Why don't you use grid mode, and what mode do you use and why? Thanks - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Questions about Clips Hi James, 1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate to the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track radio button. 2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or playlists). The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is created when a track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to be done, it's simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v shortcut but, first, you'll have to pass through the shortcut because VoiceOver uses it for adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to the master, you can't hear it in context, that is, with the audio that precedes or follows it. I suppose one can just listen to those transitions later and fix them as needed. My personal preference is to actually navigate to the master playlist and audition the beginnings and endings on the spot. 3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember somebody trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be. Cheers, slau On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote: HI Slau, Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few more questions. You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. Question: How do you import a clip to a new track? You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste. Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose a different playlist, and then play. Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and then paste. You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats. Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 4.4.270? Thank you again. On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi James, I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now. 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list? Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad. 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip. This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't guarantee success. If you hide all tracks except for the track to which you'd like to drag the clip and set its display to jumbo or extreme, you can route the mouse pointer to the clip, click and drag the clip to the center of the track pad and let go. You'll need to pay attention to whether you have any regions in the track already because you may inadvertently drop a clip right on top of another. If you include a modifier before the mouse down, you can get different results like snapping to the insertion point or activating the spot dialog where you can specify the location where the clip should go. The alternative is to import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. I should also point out that, if you're dealing with clips from various takes, it's best to create playlists
Re: Questions about Clips
The straight-forward answer is that I'm not a grid kind of guy. The music I record doesn't lend itself to landing on precisely 0 ticks. I don't do electronic music. I do mostly live musicians playing real instruments and any editing I do is based on natural phrases. Sometimes I do need to nudge something a little forward or back but then it's just a matter of milliseconds, sometimes 10, sometimes 100, whatever is required. I flip between Shuffle mode and Slip mode. Most of the time, I use slip mode if I'm editing multitrack sessions for individual performances. Otherwise, I use Shuffle when I'm editing between multitrack takes of live performances like jazz ensembles, orchestra, etc. Slau On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, Why don't you use grid mode, and what mode do you use and why? Thanks - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Questions about Clips Hi James, 1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate to the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track radio button. 2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or playlists). The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is created when a track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to be done, it's simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v shortcut but, first, you'll have to pass through the shortcut because VoiceOver uses it for adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to the master, you can't hear it in context, that is, with the audio that precedes or follows it. I suppose one can just listen to those transitions later and fix them as needed. My personal preference is to actually navigate to the master playlist and audition the beginnings and endings on the spot. 3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember somebody trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be. Cheers, slau On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote: HI Slau, Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few more questions. You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. Question: How do you import a clip to a new track? You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste. Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose a different playlist, and then play. Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and then paste. You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats. Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 4.4.270? Thank you again. On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi James, I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now. 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list? Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad. 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip. This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't guarantee success
Re: Questions about Clips
The straight-forward answer is that I'm not a grid kind of guy. The music I record doesn't lend itself to landing on precisely 0 ticks. I don't do electronic music. I do mostly live musicians playing real instruments and any editing I do is based on natural phrases. Sometimes I do need to nudge something a little forward or back but then it's just a matter of milliseconds, sometimes 10, sometimes 100, whatever is required. I flip between Shuffle mode and Slip mode. Most of the time, I use slip mode if I'm editing multitrack sessions for individual performances. Otherwise, I use Shuffle when I'm editing between multitrack takes of live performances like jazz ensembles, orchestra, etc. Slau On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Slau, Why don't you use grid mode, and what mode do you use and why? Thanks - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Questions about Clips Hi James, 1. Use the Import command under the File menu and choose audio. Navigate to the file, press Enter and then press the Done button. You'll be prompted whether to import to the session or import to a track. Choose the track radio button. 2. That's exactly the steps for auditioning the various takes (or playlists). The master playlist is simply the very first playlist that is created when a track is initially created. There's nothing else that has to be done, it's simply the first. Yes, you can use the Control-Option-v shortcut but, first, you'll have to pass through the shortcut because VoiceOver uses it for adjusting verbosity. Further, once you've pasted it to the master, you can't hear it in context, that is, with the audio that precedes or follows it. I suppose one can just listen to those transitions later and fix them as needed. My personal preference is to actually navigate to the master playlist and audition the beginnings and endings on the spot. 3. The scenario you're using in your final question is best achieved with either visually dragging in grid mode or simply cutting and pasting on the grid. Again, I personally don't use grid mode but I seem to remember somebody trying it and having some success. Again, I couldn't verify how easy/difficult/successful/unsuccessful it would be. Cheers, slau On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:53 AM, James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com wrote: HI Slau, Thanks so much for answering my questions! This is awesome! I have a few more questions. You wrote: import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. Question: How do you import a clip to a new track? You wrote: If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste. Question: How do you audition the various takes? This is how I do it, but I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I click the play list button, choose a different playlist, and then play. Also, how do you mark a playlist as main? It says if I press option,control,v, it copies selection to main Playlist. It seems like I could save time by just making a selection and press that shortcut instead of click playlist button, choose the playlist that I want to paste to, and then paste. You wrote: I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats. Question: How do you do that with nudge? Let's say if you split a clip at a start of a phrase which happens to be on 5.1.270, and you want to move that phrase to the beginning of the bar 5.1.0. If you just select and nudge that clip to the left, and your nudge value is one beat, wouldn't it move it to 4.4.270? Thank you again. On 10/29/2013 3:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi James, I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now. 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list? Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad. 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip. This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't guarantee success
Re: Questions about Clips
Hi James, I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can for now. 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list? Auditioning clips from the regions list is done by Option-clicking on the clip in the list. You'd have to route the mouse pointer to the file name and perform a physical mouse or track pad click while holding down the Option key. VoiceOver does not currently support modified clicks of this type so it has to be done with the mouse or track pad. 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip. This is done visually by dragging the clip from the regions list into a track. For obvious reasons, this is quite challenging to a VoiceOver user. It used to be possible to do this relatively easily with the old outSPOKEN screen reader. You can still attempt this with a track pad but I can't guarantee success. If you hide all tracks except for the track to which you'd like to drag the clip and set its display to jumbo or extreme, you can route the mouse pointer to the clip, click and drag the clip to the center of the track pad and let go. You'll need to pay attention to whether you have any regions in the track already because you may inadvertently drop a clip right on top of another. If you include a modifier before the mouse down, you can get different results like snapping to the insertion point or activating the spot dialog where you can specify the location where the clip should go. The alternative is to import the clip to a new audio track , cut the clip and paste it into the desired spot on the track you're working on. I should also point out that, if you're dealing with clips from various takes, it's best to create playlists for each take so that each take is easily accessible. Using the name of the track as the basic playlist works best. For example, create a track named Vocal and duplicate it. The resulting track name, and therefore playlist, becomes Vocal01. As you record onto this track, the filenames will start with Vocal.01-01, Vocal.01-02, Vocal.01_03, etc. This is all vocal take one. When you're ready for take two, create a new playlist and the track name will automatically be Vocal.02 and the filenames will all be .02_01, .02_02, .02_03, etc. In the end, copy the best take into the original playlist named Vocal and then use bits of whichever take is best for any given line, phrase, word, etc. If you make a selection in the master Vocal playlist, you can audition the various takes and the transport will just play the selected area. When you find the take that sounds best, copy, then move to the master playlist and paste. 3. Also, is there a shortcut to nudge a selected clip to a closest grid without cutting and pasting? I never use Grid mode so I can't comment. I do use nudge mode to essentially accomplish the same thing providing I'm moving by bars and beats. 4. Let's say I have clip A on bar 1 and clip B on bar 2, and both are 1 bar long. I accidentally nudged Clip A to bar 2, so they overlap exactly on the same spot. Then how can I choose clip A or clip B? If the two clips are exactly the same length and you've nudged one on top of another, it's not possible to select the one beneath, at least as far as I can tell. Now, that may be different in version 11 and I don't know off the top of my head. I won't be able to check that for another day or so. Of course, there's always Undo if it happens by mistake and you catch it quickly enough. As I mentioned earlier, the key is to keep multiple playlists to have the flexibility to grab clips as needed. One more thing I should mention since you inquired about working with clips with shortcuts rather than numeric keypad, you can move to and select entire clips by using Control-tab or Control-Option-tab. Be aware that, for the latter, you have to perform the keystroke twice because Control-Option-Tab is the command to pass through a keystroke. The shortcuts for navigating regions is in the keyboard shortcuts pdf file that comes with Pro Tools. Hope that helps, Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Questions about Clips
Was hoping that somebody would address his question. - Original Message - From: James Lee jameslee...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:46 AM Subject: Questions about Clips Hi all, I have a few questions about using clips. I searched the archive, but couldn't find answer. Maybe someone could help and point me to a right direction. I've been working mostly in MBT world by entering exact numbers when selecting and moving, and most of time, I don't need to worry about clips at all. However, I'm trying to see if I could get better at working with clips without typing numbers. I know how to nudge, change nudge value, and trim/lengthen clips. Anyways, here are my questions. 1. How can I preview unused clips from the region list? 2. How can I move an unused clip to a track? Let's say I have 4 bars recorded, but I want to bring bar 2 and 3 from previously recorded clip. 3. Also, is there a shortcut to nudge a selected clip to a closest grid without cutting and pasting? 4. Let's say I have clip A on bar 1 and clip B on bar 2, and both are 1 bar long. I accidentally nudged Clip A to bar 2, so they overlap exactly on the same spot. Then how can I choose clip A or clip B? Thanks so much for your help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
