Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-14 Thread Nick Gawronski 
Hi, Like I said I was able to do the downloads but like Chuck said 
things could be improved.  Really the web site should be fully 
accessible for all browsers regardless of the platform.  I was wondering 
if there is a way for Pro Tools to check for updates and download them 
or at least let us know when an update is out?  For those of us using 
the educational license that web site where you go to enter in your 
school's e-mail address could be more usable as well as having a support 
desk for help with it as I had to have a sited person help me with it. 
The new Pro Tools 2019.12 works great on 10.13.6 and so far I have had 
no major issues with it.  Nick Gawronski
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, Christopher 
Gilland wrote:



Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:29:03 -0500
From: Christopher Gilland 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
Tools 2019 with screen readers

Actually, Chuck, I'm totally familiar with that exact page, being that I am 
an Apple developer. When I saw the URL in your msg, I knew exactly what you 
were referring to.



Chris.

On 01/14/2020 11:26 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:

Hi Chris,
did you visit the link I posted?
That says it all.
Every interaction you have with Avid tech support get them that Apple link 
so they can standardize the Avid site.

Chuck

On Jan 14, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:


Chuck,


NO offense, but what action needs to be taken? As Slau said, the website 
works just fine. I'm just a little confused what the problem is here? What 
did I miss?



Chris.

On 01/14/2020 09:31 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:

Hi Nick & all!

I've been bringing this up during Avid Conference calls for a long time 
now! :(
Heres a link to get to Avid every chance you get and remind them to fix 
the Avid site for mac users!

https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/
Now take some action guys! :)


Talk soon
Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’

On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:

Hi, I finally got it to work there were portions of the site I had to 
move threw and expand to find the proper download and I like it how Pro 
Tools has a way to login to your ilok account and once that was done the 
ilok license manager came up.  One issue I did find is on the click here 
to activate license button if you don't activate it with in a few 
seconds it moves you back to the license description.  Is that a known 
accessibility bug as tabbing or using quicknav did not fix the automatic 
moving?  Now that the license is on my USB ilok with the yearly Pro 
Tools subscriptions there are timed evaluation licenses for Avid Falcon 
AAX timed license and a Pro Tools rental license is in the licenses that 
can be activated do I need any of these if Pro Tools 2019.12 runs fine 
and what are they for?  Nick Gawronski

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, Nick Gawronski wrote:


Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:07:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Nick Gawronski 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for 
Pro

Tools 2019 with screen readers
Hi, What do you do if you just see Pro Tools down pointing black 
pointer and no headings on that product to interact with?  In different 
portions of the page I see questionmarks listed as links and no matter 
what I do I don't see any downloads come up after interacting with 
those links and clicking them? Even my older Pro Tools downloads are 
not showing up as mac downloads but I do see them as past choices and 
the Pro Tools text is nothing I can interact with to click on.  Nick 
Gawronski

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, John Covici wrote:


Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:34:41 -0500
From: John Covici 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page 
for Pro

Tools 2019 with screen readers
I am not getting that result on my mac.  You do have to click on the
cover image, and you have to interact with the headers to be able to
click on the show links, but this is the way its always been, quirky,
but it seems to work.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:06:16 -0500,
Nick Gawronski wrote:

Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I
myself am using voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to
Pro Tools 2019 and from what a sited person told me from looking
at my account on their computer everything is ok for me to
download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come up.
Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading
navigation do see my subscription is updated but all of the show
products links are just seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a
totally blind user.  No matter what I try I am unable to find the
downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air effects bundles.  If
Avid does care about Pro Tools

Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-14 Thread Christopher Gilland 
Actually, Chuck, I'm totally familiar with that exact page, being that I 
am an Apple developer. When I saw the URL in your msg, I knew exactly 
what you were referring to.



Chris.

On 01/14/2020 11:26 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:

Hi Chris,
did you visit the link I posted?
That says it all.
Every interaction you have with Avid tech support get them that Apple link so 
they can standardize the Avid site.
Chuck

On Jan 14, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:


Chuck,


NO offense, but what action needs to be taken? As Slau said, the website works 
just fine. I'm just a little confused what the problem is here? What did I miss?


Chris.

On 01/14/2020 09:31 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:

Hi Nick & all!

I've been bringing this up during Avid Conference calls for a long time now! :(
Heres a link to get to Avid every chance you get and remind them to fix the 
Avid site for mac users!
https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/
Now take some action guys! :)


Talk soon
Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’

On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:


Hi, I finally got it to work there were portions of the site I had to move 
threw and expand to find the proper download and I like it how Pro Tools has a 
way to login to your ilok account and once that was done the ilok license 
manager came up.  One issue I did find is on the click here to activate license 
button if you don't activate it with in a few seconds it moves you back to the 
license description.  Is that a known accessibility bug as tabbing or using 
quicknav did not fix the automatic moving?  Now that the license is on my USB 
ilok with the yearly Pro Tools subscriptions there are timed evaluation 
licenses for Avid Falcon AAX timed license and a Pro Tools rental license is in 
the licenses that can be activated do I need any of these if Pro Tools 2019.12 
runs fine and what are they for?  Nick Gawronski
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, Nick Gawronski wrote:


Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:07:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Nick Gawronski 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
Tools 2019 with screen readers
Hi, What do you do if you just see Pro Tools down pointing black pointer and no 
headings on that product to interact with?  In different portions of the page I 
see questionmarks listed as links and no matter what I do I don't see any 
downloads come up after interacting with those links and clicking them? Even my 
older Pro Tools downloads are not showing up as mac downloads but I do see them 
as past choices and the Pro Tools text is nothing I can interact with to click 
on.  Nick Gawronski
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, John Covici wrote:


Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:34:41 -0500
From: John Covici 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
Tools 2019 with screen readers
I am not getting that result on my mac.  You do have to click on the
cover image, and you have to interact with the headers to be able to
click on the show links, but this is the way its always been, quirky,
but it seems to work.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:06:16 -0500,
Nick Gawronski wrote:

Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I
myself am using voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to
Pro Tools 2019 and from what a sited person told me from looking
at my account on their computer everything is ok for me to
download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come up.
Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading
navigation do see my subscription is updated but all of the show
products links are just seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a
totally blind user.  No matter what I try I am unable to find the
downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air effects bundles.  If
Avid does care about Pro Tools accessibility on the mac should
this not include the web site for downloading my software as
well?  Some web pages on accessibility information are
http://w3.org/WAI and http://www.webaim.org and I have written
the webmaster address at avid.com and did not get any message
back so can someone please tell me how I am to access and
download the software and bundles with voiceover?  I even tried
using windows 10 pro 64 bits to try to download the files to no
luck.  I am not trying to be rude but think something needs to be
done to the site for accessibility as currently it is a mess.
Nick Gawronski
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Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-14 Thread CHUCK REICHEL 
Hi Chris,
did you visit the link I posted?
That says it all.
Every interaction you have with Avid tech support get them that Apple link so 
they can standardize the Avid site.
Chuck

On Jan 14, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:

> Chuck,
> 
> 
> NO offense, but what action needs to be taken? As Slau said, the website 
> works just fine. I'm just a little confused what the problem is here? What 
> did I miss?
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On 01/14/2020 09:31 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
>> Hi Nick & all!
>> 
>> I've been bringing this up during Avid Conference calls for a long time now! 
>> :(
>> Heres a link to get to Avid every chance you get and remind them to fix the 
>> Avid site for mac users!
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/
>> Now take some action guys! :)
>> 
>> 
>> Talk soon
>> Chuck
>> 
>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>> "Albert Einstein’
>> 
>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I finally got it to work there were portions of the site I had to move 
>>> threw and expand to find the proper download and I like it how Pro Tools 
>>> has a way to login to your ilok account and once that was done the ilok 
>>> license manager came up.  One issue I did find is on the click here to 
>>> activate license button if you don't activate it with in a few seconds it 
>>> moves you back to the license description.  Is that a known accessibility 
>>> bug as tabbing or using quicknav did not fix the automatic moving?  Now 
>>> that the license is on my USB ilok with the yearly Pro Tools subscriptions 
>>> there are timed evaluation licenses for Avid Falcon AAX timed license and a 
>>> Pro Tools rental license is in the licenses that can be activated do I need 
>>> any of these if Pro Tools 2019.12 runs fine and what are they for?  Nick 
>>> Gawronski
>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>>> 
 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:07:32 -0600 (CST)
 From: Nick Gawronski 
 Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
Tools 2019 with screen readers
 Hi, What do you do if you just see Pro Tools down pointing black pointer 
 and no headings on that product to interact with?  In different portions 
 of the page I see questionmarks listed as links and no matter what I do I 
 don't see any downloads come up after interacting with those links and 
 clicking them? Even my older Pro Tools downloads are not showing up as mac 
 downloads but I do see them as past choices and the Pro Tools text is 
 nothing I can interact with to click on.  Nick Gawronski
 On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, John Covici wrote:
 
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:34:41 -0500
> From: John Covici 
> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for 
> Pro
>Tools 2019 with screen readers
> I am not getting that result on my mac.  You do have to click on the
> cover image, and you have to interact with the headers to be able to
> click on the show links, but this is the way its always been, quirky,
> but it seems to work.
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:06:16 -0500,
> Nick Gawronski wrote:
>> Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I
>> myself am using voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to
>> Pro Tools 2019 and from what a sited person told me from looking
>> at my account on their computer everything is ok for me to
>> download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come up.
>> Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading
>> navigation do see my subscription is updated but all of the show
>> products links are just seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a
>> totally blind user.  No matter what I try I am unable to find the
>> downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air effects bundles.  If
>> Avid does care about Pro Tools accessibility on the mac should
>> this not include the web site for downloading my software as
>> well?  Some web pages on accessibility information are
>> http://w3.org/WAI and http://www.webaim.org and I have written
>> the webmaster address at avid.com and did not get any message
>> back so can someone please tell me how I am to access and
>> download the software and bundles with voiceover?  I even tried
>> using windows 10 pro 64 bits to try to download the files to no
>> luck.  I am not trying to be rude but think something needs to be
>> done to the site for accessibility as currently it is a mess.
>> Nick Gawronski
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Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-14 Thread Christopher Gilland 

Chuck,


NO offense, but what action needs to be taken? As Slau said, the website 
works just fine. I'm just a little confused what the problem is here? 
What did I miss?



Chris.

On 01/14/2020 09:31 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:

Hi Nick & all!

I've been bringing this up during Avid Conference calls for a long time now! :(
Heres a link to get to Avid every chance you get and remind them to fix the 
Avid site for mac users!
https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/
Now take some action guys! :)


Talk soon
Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’

On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:


Hi, I finally got it to work there were portions of the site I had to move 
threw and expand to find the proper download and I like it how Pro Tools has a 
way to login to your ilok account and once that was done the ilok license 
manager came up.  One issue I did find is on the click here to activate license 
button if you don't activate it with in a few seconds it moves you back to the 
license description.  Is that a known accessibility bug as tabbing or using 
quicknav did not fix the automatic moving?  Now that the license is on my USB 
ilok with the yearly Pro Tools subscriptions there are timed evaluation 
licenses for Avid Falcon AAX timed license and a Pro Tools rental license is in 
the licenses that can be activated do I need any of these if Pro Tools 2019.12 
runs fine and what are they for?  Nick Gawronski
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, Nick Gawronski wrote:


Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:07:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Nick Gawronski 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
Tools 2019 with screen readers
Hi, What do you do if you just see Pro Tools down pointing black pointer and no 
headings on that product to interact with?  In different portions of the page I 
see questionmarks listed as links and no matter what I do I don't see any 
downloads come up after interacting with those links and clicking them? Even my 
older Pro Tools downloads are not showing up as mac downloads but I do see them 
as past choices and the Pro Tools text is nothing I can interact with to click 
on.  Nick Gawronski
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, John Covici wrote:


Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:34:41 -0500
From: John Covici 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
Tools 2019 with screen readers
I am not getting that result on my mac.  You do have to click on the
cover image, and you have to interact with the headers to be able to
click on the show links, but this is the way its always been, quirky,
but it seems to work.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:06:16 -0500,
Nick Gawronski wrote:

Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I
myself am using voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to
Pro Tools 2019 and from what a sited person told me from looking
at my account on their computer everything is ok for me to
download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come up.
Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading
navigation do see my subscription is updated but all of the show
products links are just seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a
totally blind user.  No matter what I try I am unable to find the
downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air effects bundles.  If
Avid does care about Pro Tools accessibility on the mac should
this not include the web site for downloading my software as
well?  Some web pages on accessibility information are
http://w3.org/WAI and http://www.webaim.org and I have written
the webmaster address at avid.com and did not get any message
back so can someone please tell me how I am to access and
download the software and bundles with voiceover?  I even tried
using windows 10 pro 64 bits to try to download the files to no
luck.  I am not trying to be rude but think something needs to be
done to the site for accessibility as currently it is a mess.
Nick Gawronski
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Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-14 Thread CHUCK REICHEL 
Hi Nick & all!

I've been bringing this up during Avid Conference calls for a long time now! :(
Heres a link to get to Avid every chance you get and remind them to fix the 
Avid site for mac users!
https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/
Now take some action guys! :)


Talk soon
Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’

On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:

> Hi, I finally got it to work there were portions of the site I had to move 
> threw and expand to find the proper download and I like it how Pro Tools has 
> a way to login to your ilok account and once that was done the ilok license 
> manager came up.  One issue I did find is on the click here to activate 
> license button if you don't activate it with in a few seconds it moves you 
> back to the license description.  Is that a known accessibility bug as 
> tabbing or using quicknav did not fix the automatic moving?  Now that the 
> license is on my USB ilok with the yearly Pro Tools subscriptions there are 
> timed evaluation licenses for Avid Falcon AAX timed license and a Pro Tools 
> rental license is in the licenses that can be activated do I need any of 
> these if Pro Tools 2019.12 runs fine and what are they for?  Nick Gawronski
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, Nick Gawronski wrote:
> 
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:07:32 -0600 (CST)
>> From: Nick Gawronski 
>> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
>>Tools 2019 with screen readers
>> Hi, What do you do if you just see Pro Tools down pointing black pointer and 
>> no headings on that product to interact with?  In different portions of the 
>> page I see questionmarks listed as links and no matter what I do I don't see 
>> any downloads come up after interacting with those links and clicking them? 
>> Even my older Pro Tools downloads are not showing up as mac downloads but I 
>> do see them as past choices and the Pro Tools text is nothing I can interact 
>> with to click on.  Nick Gawronski
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, John Covici wrote:
>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:34:41 -0500
>>> From: John Covici 
>>> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
>>>Tools 2019 with screen readers
>>> I am not getting that result on my mac.  You do have to click on the
>>> cover image, and you have to interact with the headers to be able to
>>> click on the show links, but this is the way its always been, quirky,
>>> but it seems to work.
>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:06:16 -0500,
>>> Nick Gawronski wrote:
 Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I
 myself am using voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to
 Pro Tools 2019 and from what a sited person told me from looking
 at my account on their computer everything is ok for me to
 download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come up.
 Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading
 navigation do see my subscription is updated but all of the show
 products links are just seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a
 totally blind user.  No matter what I try I am unable to find the
 downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air effects bundles.  If
 Avid does care about Pro Tools accessibility on the mac should
 this not include the web site for downloading my software as
 well?  Some web pages on accessibility information are
 http://w3.org/WAI and http://www.webaim.org and I have written
 the webmaster address at avid.com and did not get any message
 back so can someone please tell me how I am to access and
 download the software and bundles with voiceover?  I even tried
 using windows 10 pro 64 bits to try to download the files to no
 luck.  I am not trying to be rude but think something needs to be
 done to the site for accessibility as currently it is a mess.
 Nick Gawronski
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Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-13 Thread Slau Halatyn 
Hi Nick,
There's no reason to attempt to access iLok licenses from the Avid web site. 
The iLok License Manager is fully accessible and you can use it to redeem, 
activate, deactivate licenses, etc. There's an mp3 in the Drop Box with a full 
demonstration on how to use it. Hope that helps,
Slau


> On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I finally got it to work there were portions of the site I had to move 
> threw and expand to find the proper download and I like it how Pro Tools has 
> a way to login to your ilok account and once that was done the ilok license 
> manager came up.  One issue I did find is on the click here to activate 
> license button if you don't activate it with in a few seconds it moves you 
> back to the license description. Is that a known accessibility bug as tabbing 
> or using quicknav did not fix the automatic moving?  Now that the license is 
> on my USB ilok with the yearly Pro Tools subscriptions there are timed 
> evaluation licenses for Avid Falcon AAX timed license and a Pro Tools rental 
> license is in the licenses that can be activated do I need any of these if 
> Pro Tools 2019.12 runs fine and what are they for? Nick Gawronski
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, Nick Gawronski wrote:
> 
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:07:32 -0600 (CST)
>> From: Nick Gawronski mailto:n...@nickgawronski.com>>
>> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
>>Tools 2019 with screen readers
>> Hi, What do you do if you just see Pro Tools down pointing black pointer and 
>> no headings on that product to interact with?  In different portions of the 
>> page I see questionmarks listed as links and no matter what I do I don't see 
>> any downloads come up after interacting with those links and clicking them? 
>> Even my older Pro Tools downloads are not showing up as mac downloads but I 
>> do see them as past choices and the Pro Tools text is nothing I can interact 
>> with to click on.  Nick Gawronski
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, John Covici wrote:
>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:34:41 -0500
>>> From: John Covici mailto:cov...@ccs.covici.com>>
>>> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
>>>Tools 2019 with screen readers
>>> I am not getting that result on my mac.  You do have to click on the
>>> cover image, and you have to interact with the headers to be able to
>>> click on the show links, but this is the way its always been, quirky,
>>> but it seems to work.
>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:06:16 -0500,
>>> Nick Gawronski wrote:
 Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I
 myself am using voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to
 Pro Tools 2019 and from what a sited person told me from looking
 at my account on their computer everything is ok for me to
 download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come up.
 Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading
 navigation do see my subscription is updated but all of the show
 products links are just seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a
 totally blind user.  No matter what I try I am unable to find the
 downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air effects bundles.  If
 Avid does care about Pro Tools accessibility on the mac should
 this not include the web site for downloading my software as
 well?  Some web pages on accessibility information are
 http://w3.org/WAI  and http://www.webaim.org 
  and I have written
 the webmaster address at avid.com  and did not get any 
 message
 back so can someone please tell me how I am to access and
 download the software and bundles with voiceover?  I even tried
 using windows 10 pro 64 bits to try to download the files to no
 luck.  I am not trying to be rude but think something needs to be
 done to the site for accessibility as currently it is a mess.
 Nick Gawronski
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Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-13 Thread Nick Gawronski 
Hi, I finally got it to work there were portions of the site I had to 
move threw and expand to find the proper download and I like it how Pro 
Tools has a way to login to your ilok account and once that was done the 
ilok license manager came up.  One issue I did find is on the click here 
to activate license button if you don't activate it with in a few 
seconds it moves you back to the license description.  Is that a known 
accessibility bug as tabbing or using quicknav did not fix the automatic 
moving?  Now that the license is on my USB ilok with the yearly Pro 
Tools subscriptions there are timed evaluation licenses for Avid Falcon 
AAX timed license and a Pro Tools rental license is in the licenses that 
can be activated do I need any of these if Pro Tools 2019.12 runs fine 
and what are they for?  Nick Gawronski
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, Nick Gawronski 
wrote:



Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:07:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Nick Gawronski 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
Tools 2019 with screen readers

Hi, What do you do if you just see Pro Tools down pointing black pointer and 
no headings on that product to interact with?  In different portions of the 
page I see questionmarks listed as links and no matter what I do I don't see 
any downloads come up after interacting with those links and clicking them? 
Even my older Pro Tools downloads are not showing up as mac downloads but I 
do see them as past choices and the Pro Tools text is nothing I can interact 
with to click on.  Nick Gawronski

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, John Covici wrote:


Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:34:41 -0500
From: John Covici 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
Tools 2019 with screen readers

I am not getting that result on my mac.  You do have to click on the
cover image, and you have to interact with the headers to be able to
click on the show links, but this is the way its always been, quirky,
but it seems to work.

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:06:16 -0500,
Nick Gawronski wrote:


Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I
myself am using voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to
Pro Tools 2019 and from what a sited person told me from looking
at my account on their computer everything is ok for me to
download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come up.
Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading
navigation do see my subscription is updated but all of the show
products links are just seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a
totally blind user.  No matter what I try I am unable to find the
downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air effects bundles.  If
Avid does care about Pro Tools accessibility on the mac should
this not include the web site for downloading my software as
well?  Some web pages on accessibility information are
http://w3.org/WAI and http://www.webaim.org and I have written
the webmaster address at avid.com and did not get any message
back so can someone please tell me how I am to access and
download the software and bundles with voiceover?  I even tried
using windows 10 pro 64 bits to try to download the files to no
luck.  I am not trying to be rude but think something needs to be
done to the site for accessibility as currently it is a mess.
Nick Gawronski

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Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-13 Thread Nick Gawronski 
Hi, What do you do if you just see Pro Tools down pointing black pointer 
and no headings on that product to interact with?  In different portions 
of the page I 
see questionmarks listed as links and no matter what I do I don't see 
any downloads come up after interacting with those links and clicking 
them?  Even my older Pro Tools downloads are not showing up as mac 
downloads but I do see them as past choices and the Pro Tools text is 
nothing I can interact with to click on.  Nick Gawronski
On Mon, 13 Jan 
2020, John Covici wrote:



Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:34:41 -0500
From: John Covici 
Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro
Tools 2019 with screen readers

I am not getting that result on my mac.  You do have to click on the
cover image, and you have to interact with the headers to be able to
click on the show links, but this is the way its always been, quirky,
but it seems to work.

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:06:16 -0500,
Nick Gawronski wrote:


Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I
myself am using voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to
Pro Tools 2019 and from what a sited person told me from looking
at my account on their computer everything is ok for me to
download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come up.
Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading
navigation do see my subscription is updated but all of the show
products links are just seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a
totally blind user.  No matter what I try I am unable to find the
downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air effects bundles.  If
Avid does care about Pro Tools accessibility on the mac should
this not include the web site for downloading my software as
well?  Some web pages on accessibility information are
http://w3.org/WAI and http://www.webaim.org and I have written
the webmaster address at avid.com and did not get any message
back so can someone please tell me how I am to access and
download the software and bundles with voiceover?  I even tried
using windows 10 pro 64 bits to try to download the files to no
luck.  I am not trying to be rude but think something needs to be
done to the site for accessibility as currently it is a mess.
Nick Gawronski

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Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-13 Thread John Covici 
I am not getting that result on my mac.  You do have to click on the
cover image, and you have to interact with the headers to be able to
click on the show links, but this is the way its always been, quirky,
but it seems to work.

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:06:16 -0500,
Nick Gawronski wrote:
> 
> Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I
> myself am using voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to
> Pro Tools 2019 and from what a sited person told me from looking
> at my account on their computer everything is ok for me to
> download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come up.
> Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading
> navigation do see my subscription is updated but all of the show
> products links are just seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a
> totally blind user.  No matter what I try I am unable to find the
> downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air effects bundles.  If
> Avid does care about Pro Tools accessibility on the mac should
> this not include the web site for downloading my software as
> well?  Some web pages on accessibility information are
> http://w3.org/WAI and http://www.webaim.org and I have written
> the webmaster address at avid.com and did not get any message
> back so can someone please tell me how I am to access and
> download the software and bundles with voiceover?  I even tried
> using windows 10 pro 64 bits to try to download the files to no
> luck.  I am not trying to be rude but think something needs to be
> done to the site for accessibility as currently it is a mess.
> Nick Gawronski
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Re: major accessibility issues with the Avid download page for Pro Tools 2019 with screen readers

2020-01-13 Thread Slau Halatyn 
Actually, Nick, the web site works fine. As long as you're logged in, navigate 
to where you see the "Show" link and interact.. At that point, the link becomes 
clickable. You should have no issues whatsoever.
Slau


> On Jan 13, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
> 
> Hi, If Avid people are on here please read this message!  I myself am using 
> voiceover on the mac and have just upgraded to Pro Tools 2019 and from what a 
> sited person told me from looking at my account on their computer everything 
> is ok for me to download Pro Tools 2019.12 but here is where the issues come 
> up.  Under my products and subscriptions I after using heading navigation do 
> see my subscription is updated but all of the show products links are just 
> seen by voiceover as a questionmark for a totally blind user.  No matter what 
> I try I am unable to find the downloads for Pro Tools or any of the air 
> effects bundles.  If Avid does care about Pro Tools accessibility on the mac 
> should this not include the web site for downloading my software as well?  
> Some web pages on accessibility information are http://w3.org/WAI 
>  and http://www.webaim.org  and I 
> have written the webmaster address at avid.com  and did not 
> get any message back so can someone please tell me how I am to access and 
> download the software and bundles with voiceover?  I even tried using windows 
> 10 pro 64 bits to try to download the files to no luck.  I am not trying to 
> be rude but think something needs to be done to the site for accessibility as 
> currently it is a mess.  Nick Gawronski
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