Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
Hi all, I agree that it would be better to first burn the music on to your mac, import it to PT and then do all your editing there. The best way to record is with a mic stand and pop filter but I agree that if you really want to hold the mic it will be better to use a dynamic because a condenser is way too sensitive and it will pick up a lot of handling noise. But with that said if you really want to, and if you're a little careful you can do it with handheld condenser mics. As a dynamic I'll still recommend the SM58, the SM7b was also mentioned but this is not a handheld mic it requires a stand, it is anyway not really a vocal mic for singing, it is actually a radio braudcast mic and works good for this because it has no procsimity effect, but this obviously doesn't stop you from trying it people get great results with mics designed for total different stuff as an example, the Shure PG52 kick drum mic was actually originally a quier mic, one day a guy from shure messed around and placed it in a kick drum, they realised it worked awesome so changed the body of the mic for kick drum use. Anyway on the condenser side you can go for the AKG c1000s it is handheld, the rode NT1 and NT2 mentioned is also not handheld and requier stands, a little more pricy you can try the Shure beta87 it is a great mic for live and studio work, you can also check out the shure ksm109. As said it's really better recording with mic stands and if I were you I'd really try to get use to it because it just simply will work better especially if you want more pro recordings but with that said, I'll cry if I bump over a stand with a Rode NT2 or AKG c414. On Monday, May 7, 2012 11:39:11 PM UTC+2, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
Hi, Yes I agree with you about first importing the track into pro tools directly from the mac then using a normal CD player as quality will probably be a little better and also think that I might have more control I will have to do tests with both and listen to what sounds best. I will have to check on good microphones of both types as it would not hurt to at least have some of both so I can try different methods of recordings to see what sounds best as what sounds best for one project might nott sound best for the other. Also, when applying effects is it best to use the insert method where you use an aux track and insert the live and real time effect or is it best to use the type where you select a portion of a track and go into those plugins that make a new file with the effect added into it and how with the aux method do you tune how much of the effect gets sent to the final track as when I do this with the aux or main track it sounds like I am getting the levels or both turned down and I hear more effect then real voice? Nick Gawronski On 5/13/2012 5:53 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi all, I agree that it would be better to first burn the music on to your mac, import it to PT and then do all your editing there. The best way to record is with a mic stand and pop filter but I agree that if you really want to hold the mic it will be better to use a dynamic because a condenser is way too sensitive and it will pick up a lot of handling noise. But with that said if you really want to, and if you're a little careful you can do it with handheld condenser mics. As a dynamic I'll still recommend the SM58, the SM7b was also mentioned but this is not a handheld mic it requires a stand, it is anyway not really a vocal mic for singing, it is actually a radio braudcast mic and works good for this because it has no procsimity effect, but this obviously doesn't stop you from trying it people get great results with mics designed for total different stuff as an example, the Shure PG52 kick drum mic was actually originally a quier mic, one day a guy from shure messed around and placed it in a kick drum, they realised it worked awesome so changed the body of the mic for kick drum use. Anyway on the condenser side you can go for the AKG c1000s it is handheld, the rode NT1 and NT2 mentioned is also not handheld and requier stands, a little more pricy you can try the Shure beta87 it is a great mic for live and studio work, you can also check out the shure ksm109. As said it's really better recording with mic stands and if I were you I'd really try to get use to it because it just simply will work better especially if you want more pro recordings but with that said, I'll cry if I bump over a stand with a Rode NT2 or AKG c414. On Monday, May 7, 2012 11:39:11 PM UTC+2, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
Why are you recording a CD player into the 003? Why not just burn the CD on the Mac and then import the content of the cd into a pro tools session? Forgive me if I sound mistyfide. - Original Message - From: Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 Hi, Let me discribe what I am trying to record and then you will understand what I am trying to do and make more suggestions. I like all of the suggestions and agree that now that I am wanting to do this audio production as a job that I need to get better microphones and adapt my room for recording. Basically I have my mac book pro as well as my digi 003 on the same desk with my CD player on the same table. Everything is working properly but the reason I can't push play on the CD player and record on the digi 003 at the same time then go into a different room to record is that I am going to be the one getting recorded along with some of my friends and want to have headphones for all of us so that sound from either the music or each other does not go threw or as little as possible goes on to each track. I am fine about getting better quality headphones for them as well as extention cables for spreading out people in the room. Should I have all of my equipment on a pad or something other then a wooden shelf? Usually we like to hold our microphones as we find that microphone stands can get pushed over and I like to keep things stored as close as possible to the digi 003 when not in use. I have done some sample recordings turning the microphone volumes way down but it gets so low that the singing os us is pritty much gone as I still want to be able to hear the music as well as the voices or if we are recording a drama recording with background music and sound effects we want to make sure that the music or sound effects don't remove our voices from the production. Based on this discription and the fact that I am the one who will probably buy most if not all of the equipment or wants to learn this stuff and is going to school to learn all of these great things what suggestions can you suggest? Nick Gawronski On 5/9/2012 7:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi Kevin and others. The Rode NT1 is a awesome mic and I will recommend it any day as a studio condenser for doing vocals or acoustic instruments like guitars, violens or piano. However kevin, the NT2 is the one with the pad and patern switching and my opinion if you can afford the $100 or so more I'd rather go for the NT2 as it esentially sounds the same as the NT1 but with the aditional pick up paterns and pad. As for your room, it's highly recommended to get some room treetment especially if you're going to do vocals with condenser mics because they are very sensitive and the quietest condenser mic in the world won't help anything if you have a loud noisy room. As said you can do a lot of stuff DIY style without spending a lot of money on a pro person or company to do it for you but if you have the budget it is obviously better to get in the pros. There's a lot of stuff on the net about DIY acoustics and you can get verry far by doing some reading and by experementing a little with different things. You can make a lot of improvements by using blankets, carpet, cardboard boxes, spunge/phome etc. used in the rite ways and placed rite. For serious studio vocals I'd always recommend condenser mics like the Rode NT1 and NT2 mentioned above and as also mentioned the NT2 can switch to omni directional to pick up people singing in a group or a string section etc. If you really want to use dynamic mics you can get verry far with something like the SM58, a lot of studio engineers would consider dynamic mics for vocal recording a big no, no but it can be done, for example U2's Bonno only records vocals with his SM58. Mics really depends a lot on your budget and needs, I've mentioned the Rode mics, AKG has awesome vocal mics at the budget end starting at the c1000 going up to the c414 etc and you can also look at shure, a lot of people only see shure mics as live mics but they have awesome studio mics in fact the SM in SM58 actually stands for studio microphone. Dynamic as said look at the SM58 and condenser wise the beta87 is awesome for recording and also the KSM109. As you probably know by now the ideal situation would be to keep your equipment like computer and hard drive in one room and record in another but if not possible you can do it in one room, as mentioned by use of longer cables distance the mic and your computer as far away from each other as possible. In sted of covering your computer with something like a blanket a good idea is just to put a barryer between thee computer and the mic, you can do this with a acoustic pannel or something as simple as a blanket hanged between 2 mic stands can also do the trick. On Monday, May 7, 2012 11:39:11
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
Hi, Are you saying rip the CD that me and my friends are going to be performing to into the mac and then import that into pro tools? I am not burning directly from the digi 003 to a CD I am using the CD player to play back music. I like to announce things before I press play so importing the music into pro tools I would have to put the announcement and music then cut and move data around so things don't overlap. Were you thinking I was burning from the digi 003 directly to CD as I am not sure what you were thinking I was trying to do? Nick Gawronski On 5/10/2012 10:08 AM, Poppa Bear wrote: Why are you recording a CD player into the 003? Why not just burn the CD on the Mac and then import the content of the cd into a pro tools session? Forgive me if I sound mistyfide. - Original Message - From: Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 Hi, Let me discribe what I am trying to record and then you will understand what I am trying to do and make more suggestions. I like all of the suggestions and agree that now that I am wanting to do this audio production as a job that I need to get better microphones and adapt my room for recording. Basically I have my mac book pro as well as my digi 003 on the same desk with my CD player on the same table. Everything is working properly but the reason I can't push play on the CD player and record on the digi 003 at the same time then go into a different room to record is that I am going to be the one getting recorded along with some of my friends and want to have headphones for all of us so that sound from either the music or each other does not go threw or as little as possible goes on to each track. I am fine about getting better quality headphones for them as well as extention cables for spreading out people in the room. Should I have all of my equipment on a pad or something other then a wooden shelf? Usually we like to hold our microphones as we find that microphone stands can get pushed over and I like to keep things stored as close as possible to the digi 003 when not in use. I have done some sample recordings turning the microphone volumes way down but it gets so low that the singing os us is pritty much gone as I still want to be able to hear the music as well as the voices or if we are recording a drama recording with background music and sound effects we want to make sure that the music or sound effects don't remove our voices from the production. Based on this discription and the fact that I am the one who will probably buy most if not all of the equipment or wants to learn this stuff and is going to school to learn all of these great things what suggestions can you suggest? Nick Gawronski On 5/9/2012 7:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi Kevin and others. The Rode NT1 is a awesome mic and I will recommend it any day as a studio condenser for doing vocals or acoustic instruments like guitars, violens or piano. However kevin, the NT2 is the one with the pad and patern switching and my opinion if you can afford the $100 or so more I'd rather go for the NT2 as it esentially sounds the same as the NT1 but with the aditional pick up paterns and pad. As for your room, it's highly recommended to get some room treetment especially if you're going to do vocals with condenser mics because they are very sensitive and the quietest condenser mic in the world won't help anything if you have a loud noisy room. As said you can do a lot of stuff DIY style without spending a lot of money on a pro person or company to do it for you but if you have the budget it is obviously better to get in the pros. There's a lot of stuff on the net about DIY acoustics and you can get verry far by doing some reading and by experementing a little with different things. You can make a lot of improvements by using blankets, carpet, cardboard boxes, spunge/phome etc. used in the rite ways and placed rite. For serious studio vocals I'd always recommend condenser mics like the Rode NT1 and NT2 mentioned above and as also mentioned the NT2 can switch to omni directional to pick up people singing in a group or a string section etc. If you really want to use dynamic mics you can get verry far with something like the SM58, a lot of studio engineers would consider dynamic mics for vocal recording a big no, no but it can be done, for example U2's Bonno only records vocals with his SM58. Mics really depends a lot on your budget and needs, I've mentioned the Rode mics, AKG has awesome vocal mics at the budget end starting at the c1000 going up to the c414 etc and you can also look at shure, a lot of people only see shure mics as live mics but they have awesome studio mics in fact the SM in SM58 actually stands for studio microphone. Dynamic as said look at the SM58 and condenser wise the beta87 is awesome for recording and also the KSM109. As you probably know
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
I thought you were recording the stuff from a CD to pro tools through your 003. If that was the case, I would say that it is a smoother process to just ripp the cd to your mac then import into a PT session. - Original Message - From: Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:49 AM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 Hi, Are you saying rip the CD that me and my friends are going to be performing to into the mac and then import that into pro tools? I am not burning directly from the digi 003 to a CD I am using the CD player to play back music. I like to announce things before I press play so importing the music into pro tools I would have to put the announcement and music then cut and move data around so things don't overlap. Were you thinking I was burning from the digi 003 directly to CD as I am not sure what you were thinking I was trying to do? Nick Gawronski On 5/10/2012 10:08 AM, Poppa Bear wrote: Why are you recording a CD player into the 003? Why not just burn the CD on the Mac and then import the content of the cd into a pro tools session? Forgive me if I sound mistyfide. - Original Message - From: Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 Hi, Let me discribe what I am trying to record and then you will understand what I am trying to do and make more suggestions. I like all of the suggestions and agree that now that I am wanting to do this audio production as a job that I need to get better microphones and adapt my room for recording. Basically I have my mac book pro as well as my digi 003 on the same desk with my CD player on the same table. Everything is working properly but the reason I can't push play on the CD player and record on the digi 003 at the same time then go into a different room to record is that I am going to be the one getting recorded along with some of my friends and want to have headphones for all of us so that sound from either the music or each other does not go threw or as little as possible goes on to each track. I am fine about getting better quality headphones for them as well as extention cables for spreading out people in the room. Should I have all of my equipment on a pad or something other then a wooden shelf? Usually we like to hold our microphones as we find that microphone stands can get pushed over and I like to keep things stored as close as possible to the digi 003 when not in use. I have done some sample recordings turning the microphone volumes way down but it gets so low that the singing os us is pritty much gone as I still want to be able to hear the music as well as the voices or if we are recording a drama recording with background music and sound effects we want to make sure that the music or sound effects don't remove our voices from the production. Based on this discription and the fact that I am the one who will probably buy most if not all of the equipment or wants to learn this stuff and is going to school to learn all of these great things what suggestions can you suggest? Nick Gawronski On 5/9/2012 7:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi Kevin and others. The Rode NT1 is a awesome mic and I will recommend it any day as a studio condenser for doing vocals or acoustic instruments like guitars, violens or piano. However kevin, the NT2 is the one with the pad and patern switching and my opinion if you can afford the $100 or so more I'd rather go for the NT2 as it esentially sounds the same as the NT1 but with the aditional pick up paterns and pad. As for your room, it's highly recommended to get some room treetment especially if you're going to do vocals with condenser mics because they are very sensitive and the quietest condenser mic in the world won't help anything if you have a loud noisy room. As said you can do a lot of stuff DIY style without spending a lot of money on a pro person or company to do it for you but if you have the budget it is obviously better to get in the pros. There's a lot of stuff on the net about DIY acoustics and you can get verry far by doing some reading and by experementing a little with different things. You can make a lot of improvements by using blankets, carpet, cardboard boxes, spunge/phome etc. used in the rite ways and placed rite. For serious studio vocals I'd always recommend condenser mics like the Rode NT1 and NT2 mentioned above and as also mentioned the NT2 can switch to omni directional to pick up people singing in a group or a string section etc. If you really want to use dynamic mics you can get verry far with something like the SM58, a lot of studio engineers would consider dynamic mics for vocal recording a big no, no but it can be done, for example U2's Bonno only records vocals with his SM58. Mics really depends a lot on your budget and needs, I've mentioned
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
Hi, yes I would agree that importing the track into pro tools directly would probably sound clearlier but can you do things where like one track overlaps the over by a small ammount so as one faids out the next one starts playing that is depending on what the original song was doing? If the tracks are stereo tracks will I have two mono tracks or one stereo track? Nick Gawronski On 5/10/2012 2:47 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: I thought you were recording the stuff from a CD to pro tools through your 003. If that was the case, I would say that it is a smoother process to just ripp the cd to your mac then import into a PT session. - Original Message - From: Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:49 AM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 Hi, Are you saying rip the CD that me and my friends are going to be performing to into the mac and then import that into pro tools? I am not burning directly from the digi 003 to a CD I am using the CD player to play back music. I like to announce things before I press play so importing the music into pro tools I would have to put the announcement and music then cut and move data around so things don't overlap. Were you thinking I was burning from the digi 003 directly to CD as I am not sure what you were thinking I was trying to do? Nick Gawronski On 5/10/2012 10:08 AM, Poppa Bear wrote: Why are you recording a CD player into the 003? Why not just burn the CD on the Mac and then import the content of the cd into a pro tools session? Forgive me if I sound mistyfide. - Original Message - From: Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 Hi, Let me discribe what I am trying to record and then you will understand what I am trying to do and make more suggestions. I like all of the suggestions and agree that now that I am wanting to do this audio production as a job that I need to get better microphones and adapt my room for recording. Basically I have my mac book pro as well as my digi 003 on the same desk with my CD player on the same table. Everything is working properly but the reason I can't push play on the CD player and record on the digi 003 at the same time then go into a different room to record is that I am going to be the one getting recorded along with some of my friends and want to have headphones for all of us so that sound from either the music or each other does not go threw or as little as possible goes on to each track. I am fine about getting better quality headphones for them as well as extention cables for spreading out people in the room. Should I have all of my equipment on a pad or something other then a wooden shelf? Usually we like to hold our microphones as we find that microphone stands can get pushed over and I like to keep things stored as close as possible to the digi 003 when not in use. I have done some sample recordings turning the microphone volumes way down but it gets so low that the singing os us is pritty much gone as I still want to be able to hear the music as well as the voices or if we are recording a drama recording with background music and sound effects we want to make sure that the music or sound effects don't remove our voices from the production. Based on this discription and the fact that I am the one who will probably buy most if not all of the equipment or wants to learn this stuff and is going to school to learn all of these great things what suggestions can you suggest? Nick Gawronski On 5/9/2012 7:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi Kevin and others. The Rode NT1 is a awesome mic and I will recommend it any day as a studio condenser for doing vocals or acoustic instruments like guitars, violens or piano. However kevin, the NT2 is the one with the pad and patern switching and my opinion if you can afford the $100 or so more I'd rather go for the NT2 as it esentially sounds the same as the NT1 but with the aditional pick up paterns and pad. As for your room, it's highly recommended to get some room treetment especially if you're going to do vocals with condenser mics because they are very sensitive and the quietest condenser mic in the world won't help anything if you have a loud noisy room. As said you can do a lot of stuff DIY style without spending a lot of money on a pro person or company to do it for you but if you have the budget it is obviously better to get in the pros. There's a lot of stuff on the net about DIY acoustics and you can get verry far by doing some reading and by experementing a little with different things. You can make a lot of improvements by using blankets, carpet, cardboard boxes, spunge/phome etc. used in the rite ways and placed rite. For serious studio vocals I'd always recommend condenser mics like the Rode NT1 and NT2 mentioned above and as also mentioned the NT2 can
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
Rip the cd, then import it into Pro Tools. It will import into a stereo track. Then record your intro. Select the audio track you just imported and do the cut command. move the cursor to the end of you intro or about where you want the music to start, and paste. Then select the intro of the music track and set the fade if needed. Then select the end of the intro and set the fade out if necessary. You could also record the intro and then import the track about where you would want it as well. On May 10, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, yes I would agree that importing the track into pro tools directly would probably sound clearlier but can you do things where like one track overlaps the over by a small ammount so as one faids out the next one starts playing that is depending on what the original song was doing? If the tracks are stereo tracks will I have two mono tracks or one stereo track? Nick Gawronski On 5/10/2012 2:47 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: I thought you were recording the stuff from a CD to pro tools through your 003. If that was the case, I would say that it is a smoother process to just ripp the cd to your mac then import into a PT session. - Original Message - From: Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:49 AM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 Hi, Are you saying rip the CD that me and my friends are going to be performing to into the mac and then import that into pro tools? I am not burning directly from the digi 003 to a CD I am using the CD player to play back music. I like to announce things before I press play so importing the music into pro tools I would have to put the announcement and music then cut and move data around so things don't overlap. Were you thinking I was burning from the digi 003 directly to CD as I am not sure what you were thinking I was trying to do? Nick Gawronski On 5/10/2012 10:08 AM, Poppa Bear wrote: Why are you recording a CD player into the 003? Why not just burn the CD on the Mac and then import the content of the cd into a pro tools session? Forgive me if I sound mistyfide. - Original Message - From: Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:40 PM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 Hi, Let me discribe what I am trying to record and then you will understand what I am trying to do and make more suggestions. I like all of the suggestions and agree that now that I am wanting to do this audio production as a job that I need to get better microphones and adapt my room for recording. Basically I have my mac book pro as well as my digi 003 on the same desk with my CD player on the same table. Everything is working properly but the reason I can't push play on the CD player and record on the digi 003 at the same time then go into a different room to record is that I am going to be the one getting recorded along with some of my friends and want to have headphones for all of us so that sound from either the music or each other does not go threw or as little as possible goes on to each track. I am fine about getting better quality headphones for them as well as extention cables for spreading out people in the room. Should I have all of my equipment on a pad or something other then a wooden shelf? Usually we like to hold our microphones as we find that microphone stands can get pushed over and I like to keep things stored as close as possible to the digi 003 when not in use. I have done some sample recordings turning the microphone volumes way down but it gets so low that the singing os us is pritty much gone as I still want to be able to hear the music as well as the voices or if we are recording a drama recording with background music and sound effects we want to make sure that the music or sound effects don't remove our voices from the production. Based on this discription and the fact that I am the one who will probably buy most if not all of the equipment or wants to learn this stuff and is going to school to learn all of these great things what suggestions can you suggest? Nick Gawronski On 5/9/2012 7:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi Kevin and others. The Rode NT1 is a awesome mic and I will recommend it any day as a studio condenser for doing vocals or acoustic instruments like guitars, violens or piano. However kevin, the NT2 is the one with the pad and patern switching and my opinion if you can afford the $100 or so more I'd rather go for the NT2 as it esentially sounds the same as the NT1 but with the aditional pick up paterns and pad. As for your room, it's highly recommended to get some room treetment especially if you're going to do vocals with condenser mics because they are very sensitive and the quietest condenser mic in the world won't help
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
Hi Kevin and others. The Rode NT1 is a awesome mic and I will recommend it any day as a studio condenser for doing vocals or acoustic instruments like guitars, violens or piano. However kevin, the NT2 is the one with the pad and patern switching and my opinion if you can afford the $100 or so more I'd rather go for the NT2 as it esentially sounds the same as the NT1 but with the aditional pick up paterns and pad. As for your room, it's highly recommended to get some room treetment especially if you're going to do vocals with condenser mics because they are very sensitive and the quietest condenser mic in the world won't help anything if you have a loud noisy room. As said you can do a lot of stuff DIY style without spending a lot of money on a pro person or company to do it for you but if you have the budget it is obviously better to get in the pros. There's a lot of stuff on the net about DIY acoustics and you can get verry far by doing some reading and by experementing a little with different things. You can make a lot of improvements by using blankets, carpet, cardboard boxes, spunge/phome etc. used in the rite ways and placed rite. For serious studio vocals I'd always recommend condenser mics like the Rode NT1 and NT2 mentioned above and as also mentioned the NT2 can switch to omni directional to pick up people singing in a group or a string section etc. If you really want to use dynamic mics you can get verry far with something like the SM58, a lot of studio engineers would consider dynamic mics for vocal recording a big no, no but it can be done, for example U2's Bonno only records vocals with his SM58. Mics really depends a lot on your budget and needs, I've mentioned the Rode mics, AKG has awesome vocal mics at the budget end starting at the c1000 going up to the c414 etc and you can also look at shure, a lot of people only see shure mics as live mics but they have awesome studio mics in fact the SM in SM58 actually stands for studio microphone. Dynamic as said look at the SM58 and condenser wise the beta87 is awesome for recording and also the KSM109. As you probably know by now the ideal situation would be to keep your equipment like computer and hard drive in one room and record in another but if not possible you can do it in one room, as mentioned by use of longer cables distance the mic and your computer as far away from each other as possible. In sted of covering your computer with something like a blanket a good idea is just to put a barryer between thee computer and the mic, you can do this with a acoustic pannel or something as simple as a blanket hanged between 2 mic stands can also do the trick. On Monday, May 7, 2012 11:39:11 PM UTC+2, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski
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Hi, Let me discribe what I am trying to record and then you will understand what I am trying to do and make more suggestions. I like all of the suggestions and agree that now that I am wanting to do this audio production as a job that I need to get better microphones and adapt my room for recording. Basically I have my mac book pro as well as my digi 003 on the same desk with my CD player on the same table. Everything is working properly but the reason I can't push play on the CD player and record on the digi 003 at the same time then go into a different room to record is that I am going to be the one getting recorded along with some of my friends and want to have headphones for all of us so that sound from either the music or each other does not go threw or as little as possible goes on to each track. I am fine about getting better quality headphones for them as well as extention cables for spreading out people in the room. Should I have all of my equipment on a pad or something other then a wooden shelf? Usually we like to hold our microphones as we find that microphone stands can get pushed over and I like to keep things stored as close as possible to the digi 003 when not in use. I have done some sample recordings turning the microphone volumes way down but it gets so low that the singing os us is pritty much gone as I still want to be able to hear the music as well as the voices or if we are recording a drama recording with background music and sound effects we want to make sure that the music or sound effects don't remove our voices from the production. Based on this discription and the fact that I am the one who will probably buy most if not all of the equipment or wants to learn this stuff and is going to school to learn all of these great things what suggestions can you suggest? Nick Gawronski On 5/9/2012 7:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi Kevin and others. The Rode NT1 is a awesome mic and I will recommend it any day as a studio condenser for doing vocals or acoustic instruments like guitars, violens or piano. However kevin, the NT2 is the one with the pad and patern switching and my opinion if you can afford the $100 or so more I'd rather go for the NT2 as it esentially sounds the same as the NT1 but with the aditional pick up paterns and pad. As for your room, it's highly recommended to get some room treetment especially if you're going to do vocals with condenser mics because they are very sensitive and the quietest condenser mic in the world won't help anything if you have a loud noisy room. As said you can do a lot of stuff DIY style without spending a lot of money on a pro person or company to do it for you but if you have the budget it is obviously better to get in the pros. There's a lot of stuff on the net about DIY acoustics and you can get verry far by doing some reading and by experementing a little with different things. You can make a lot of improvements by using blankets, carpet, cardboard boxes, spunge/phome etc. used in the rite ways and placed rite. For serious studio vocals I'd always recommend condenser mics like the Rode NT1 and NT2 mentioned above and as also mentioned the NT2 can switch to omni directional to pick up people singing in a group or a string section etc. If you really want to use dynamic mics you can get verry far with something like the SM58, a lot of studio engineers would consider dynamic mics for vocal recording a big no, no but it can be done, for example U2's Bonno only records vocals with his SM58. Mics really depends a lot on your budget and needs, I've mentioned the Rode mics, AKG has awesome vocal mics at the budget end starting at the c1000 going up to the c414 etc and you can also look at shure, a lot of people only see shure mics as live mics but they have awesome studio mics in fact the SM in SM58 actually stands for studio microphone. Dynamic as said look at the SM58 and condenser wise the beta87 is awesome for recording and also the KSM109. As you probably know by now the ideal situation would be to keep your equipment like computer and hard drive in one room and record in another but if not possible you can do it in one room, as mentioned by use of longer cables distance the mic and your computer as far away from each other as possible. In sted of covering your computer with something like a blanket a good idea is just to put a barryer between thee computer and the mic, you can do this with a acoustic pannel or something as simple as a blanket hanged between 2 mic stands can also do the trick. On Monday, May 7, 2012 11:39:11 PM UTC+2, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in
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Yeah once again, given everything you just said, especially the part about not wanting to use stands, avoid condensor microphones for now.Personally i have a few decent condensor mics and dynamic mics and to be honest after doing shoot outs before tracking vocals, majority of the time we aall agree dynamics work better for that song/situation. Yes i agree thta most pros will tell you get a condensor for vocals, but these pro studios also have nice treated spaces. and most condensers, if they are even comfortable to hold while performing ar so sensative that they will pick up every hand movement.I love condensors too, but till you have the space to take care of it, you could get far with some variant of the Shure SM58, SM7B or even a couple of behringer xm8500's. On May 9, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, Let me discribe what I am trying to record and then you will understand what I am trying to do and make more suggestions. I like all of the suggestions and agree that now that I am wanting to do this audio production as a job that I need to get better microphones and adapt my room for recording. Basically I have my mac book pro as well as my digi 003 on the same desk with my CD player on the same table. Everything is working properly but the reason I can't push play on the CD player and record on the digi 003 at the same time then go into a different room to record is that I am going to be the one getting recorded along with some of my friends and want to have headphones for all of us so that sound from either the music or each other does not go threw or as little as possible goes on to each track. I am fine about getting better quality headphones for them as well as extention cables for spreading out people in the room. Should I have all of my equipment on a pad or something other then a wooden shelf? Usually we like to hold our microphones as we find that microphone stands can get pushed over and I like to keep things stored as close as possible to the digi 003 when not in use. I have done some sample recordings turning the microphone volumes way down but it gets so low that the singing os us is pritty much gone as I still want to be able to hear the music as well as the voices or if we are recording a drama recording with background music and sound effects we want to make sure that the music or sound effects don't remove our voices from the production. Based on this discription and the fact that I am the one who will probably buy most if not all of the equipment or wants to learn this stuff and is going to school to learn all of these great things what suggestions can you suggest? Nick Gawronski On 5/9/2012 7:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi Kevin and others. The Rode NT1 is a awesome mic and I will recommend it any day as a studio condenser for doing vocals or acoustic instruments like guitars, violens or piano. However kevin, the NT2 is the one with the pad and patern switching and my opinion if you can afford the $100 or so more I'd rather go for the NT2 as it esentially sounds the same as the NT1 but with the aditional pick up paterns and pad. As for your room, it's highly recommended to get some room treetment especially if you're going to do vocals with condenser mics because they are very sensitive and the quietest condenser mic in the world won't help anything if you have a loud noisy room. As said you can do a lot of stuff DIY style without spending a lot of money on a pro person or company to do it for you but if you have the budget it is obviously better to get in the pros. There's a lot of stuff on the net about DIY acoustics and you can get verry far by doing some reading and by experementing a little with different things. You can make a lot of improvements by using blankets, carpet, cardboard boxes, spunge/phome etc. used in the rite ways and placed rite. For serious studio vocals I'd always recommend condenser mics like the Rode NT1 and NT2 mentioned above and as also mentioned the NT2 can switch to omni directional to pick up people singing in a group or a string section etc. If you really want to use dynamic mics you can get verry far with something like the SM58, a lot of studio engineers would consider dynamic mics for vocal recording a big no, no but it can be done, for example U2's Bonno only records vocals with his SM58. Mics really depends a lot on your budget and needs, I've mentioned the Rode mics, AKG has awesome vocal mics at the budget end starting at the c1000 going up to the c414 etc and you can also look at shure, a lot of people only see shure mics as live mics but they have awesome studio mics in fact the SM in SM58 actually stands for studio microphone. Dynamic as said look at the SM58 and condenser wise the beta87 is awesome for recording and also the KSM109. As you probably know by now the ideal situation would be to keep your
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I have a Rode NT1-A, and I love it, and am hoping to buy another some time soon. It's awesome, and reproduces everything that comes out of my girlfriend's mouth perfectly, which is quite a feat, as she is very dynamic, going from low breathy vocal to gospel-style sweeping blues lines way up high. They will however, get every noise, so again, you can't escape either the gate, or the treated room. Anyways, hth, On 08/05/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't want to worry about removing things after the fact, then stick to dynamic microphones like the ones i recommended. One of those and a long enough mic cable so you aren't right next to the mac and the HD and you should be fine. They are people that specialize in helping you treat a room but you are looking at about $500 and up to hire one. There are plenty of resources out there to guide you and alot of the things can be done DIY style on the cheap or be bought at areasonable prices once you figure out what your room needs. On May 7, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I will have to check on the exact names of my microphones if the names are even still written on them anymore as I have used these things for a long time so stuff might have been warn off but again just going out and buying brand new ones now that I am really into audio production might be the best thing. I don't always like using a microphone stand but do agree about those shock mounts as they do help a lot. Are there companies out there that specialize in prepairing a room to be a studio as I also agree with you about minimizing the ammount of noise that gets into microphones? What is the best way to stop the noise of my external hard drive or mac book pro fan noise from always existing in my recordings with out removing it afterwords? I don't want to put a material over things like a hard drive or a mac book pro because of heat and do you think a wind screen on the microphones will help on the background room noise? Nick Gawronski On 5/7/2012 5:20 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: Which microphones do you currently have? Those sound like condensors but yet you say they don't require phantom power.Personally i think every studio should own a Behringer xm8500 or two. Yeah they may only be $20 but they are every bit as good in build/sound quality as the shure SM58 they are based on. Do they sound exactly alike? Nope, One is slightly brighter than the other. THe Shure SM58 is the induestry standard which you will probably find atleast one of in every major studio that cuts vocals. And of course there are way too many variants of that mic in its $100 price range. If you can afford a few hundred dollars then the Shure SM7B is worth a look, It's probably next on my mic list. My research on it shows that its quite the utility mic, sounding good on anything you put in front of it, voice, drums, guitar cabinets, bass cabinets etc, etc. Those 3 should get you started and all have pretty good rejection of anything thats not in front of them. I would avoid condensors for now till your recording space inprooves or unless you have a walk in closet or something like that to set one up in when recording. On May 7, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Nick Gawronskin...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
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I have thought about picking up one of those just for collecting sake. I believed that it is marketed as the quietest condenser microphone in the world or something like that if I remember right. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:19 AM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 I have a Rode NT1-A, and I love it, and am hoping to buy another some time soon. It's awesome, and reproduces everything that comes out of my girlfriend's mouth perfectly, which is quite a feat, as she is very dynamic, going from low breathy vocal to gospel-style sweeping blues lines way up high. They will however, get every noise, so again, you can't escape either the gate, or the treated room. Anyways, hth, On 08/05/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't want to worry about removing things after the fact, then stick to dynamic microphones like the ones i recommended. One of those and a long enough mic cable so you aren't right next to the mac and the HD and you should be fine. They are people that specialize in helping you treat a room but you are looking at about $500 and up to hire one. There are plenty of resources out there to guide you and alot of the things can be done DIY style on the cheap or be bought at areasonable prices once you figure out what your room needs. On May 7, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I will have to check on the exact names of my microphones if the names are even still written on them anymore as I have used these things for a long time so stuff might have been warn off but again just going out and buying brand new ones now that I am really into audio production might be the best thing. I don't always like using a microphone stand but do agree about those shock mounts as they do help a lot. Are there companies out there that specialize in prepairing a room to be a studio as I also agree with you about minimizing the ammount of noise that gets into microphones? What is the best way to stop the noise of my external hard drive or mac book pro fan noise from always existing in my recordings with out removing it afterwords? I don't want to put a material over things like a hard drive or a mac book pro because of heat and do you think a wind screen on the microphones will help on the background room noise? Nick Gawronski On 5/7/2012 5:20 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: Which microphones do you currently have? Those sound like condensors but yet you say they don't require phantom power.Personally i think every studio should own a Behringer xm8500 or two. Yeah they may only be $20 but they are every bit as good in build/sound quality as the shure SM58 they are based on. Do they sound exactly alike? Nope, One is slightly brighter than the other. THe Shure SM58 is the induestry standard which you will probably find atleast one of in every major studio that cuts vocals. And of course there are way too many variants of that mic in its $100 price range. If you can afford a few hundred dollars then the Shure SM7B is worth a look, It's probably next on my mic list. My research on it shows that its quite the utility mic, sounding good on anything you put in front of it, voice, drums, guitar cabinets, bass cabinets etc, etc. Those 3 should get you started and all have pretty good rejection of anything thats not in front of them. I would avoid condensors for now till your recording space inprooves or unless you have a walk in closet or something like that to set one up in when recording. On May 7, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Nick Gawronskin...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
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I have an NT1A and I love it. However, there's no pattern selection on it, or at least I haven't been able to find it. I could really use the ability to pad the mic, as well as tighten up the pickup pattern. Kevin On May 8, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: I have thought about picking up one of those just for collecting sake. I believed that it is marketed as the quietest condenser microphone in the world or something like that if I remember right. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:19 AM Subject: Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 I have a Rode NT1-A, and I love it, and am hoping to buy another some time soon. It's awesome, and reproduces everything that comes out of my girlfriend's mouth perfectly, which is quite a feat, as she is very dynamic, going from low breathy vocal to gospel-style sweeping blues lines way up high. They will however, get every noise, so again, you can't escape either the gate, or the treated room. Anyways, hth, On 08/05/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't want to worry about removing things after the fact, then stick to dynamic microphones like the ones i recommended. One of those and a long enough mic cable so you aren't right next to the mac and the HD and you should be fine. They are people that specialize in helping you treat a room but you are looking at about $500 and up to hire one. There are plenty of resources out there to guide you and alot of the things can be done DIY style on the cheap or be bought at areasonable prices once you figure out what your room needs. On May 7, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I will have to check on the exact names of my microphones if the names are even still written on them anymore as I have used these things for a long time so stuff might have been warn off but again just going out and buying brand new ones now that I am really into audio production might be the best thing. I don't always like using a microphone stand but do agree about those shock mounts as they do help a lot. Are there companies out there that specialize in prepairing a room to be a studio as I also agree with you about minimizing the ammount of noise that gets into microphones? What is the best way to stop the noise of my external hard drive or mac book pro fan noise from always existing in my recordings with out removing it afterwords? I don't want to put a material over things like a hard drive or a mac book pro because of heat and do you think a wind screen on the microphones will help on the background room noise? Nick Gawronski On 5/7/2012 5:20 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: Which microphones do you currently have? Those sound like condensors but yet you say they don't require phantom power.Personally i think every studio should own a Behringer xm8500 or two. Yeah they may only be $20 but they are every bit as good in build/sound quality as the shure SM58 they are based on. Do they sound exactly alike? Nope, One is slightly brighter than the other. THe Shure SM58 is the induestry standard which you will probably find atleast one of in every major studio that cuts vocals. And of course there are way too many variants of that mic in its $100 price range. If you can afford a few hundred dollars then the Shure SM7B is worth a look, It's probably next on my mic list. My research on it shows that its quite the utility mic, sounding good on anything you put in front of it, voice, drums, guitar cabinets, bass cabinets etc, etc. Those 3 should get you started and all have pretty good rejection of anything thats not in front of them. I would avoid condensors for now till your recording space inprooves or unless you have a walk in closet or something like that to set one up in when recording. On May 7, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Nick Gawronskin...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski
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Exactly what mics do you have now? Learning to use a gate plugin will help to minumize background noise. Also, treating your room with blankets or acoustic foam will also help to control some of the room noise. If you can't control the sounds in your recording area, the acoustics, then a condenser mic will not only enhance the clarety of vocals, but the noisy ghosts in your space. If you are looking for a condenser mic on a budget then I would maybe look at something like the AKG C2000. You can pick one up for under $160 on Ebay most of the time. Make sure that if you do get a mic off of Ebay you get a shock mount with it, that is the cradle that holds the microphone on your mic stand. I hope this helps some. PS, your gate plugin FX are under the dynamic settings. - Original Message - From: Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:39 PM Subject: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003 Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
Which microphones do you currently have? Those sound like condensors but yet you say they don't require phantom power.Personally i think every studio should own a Behringer xm8500 or two. Yeah they may only be $20 but they are every bit as good in build/sound quality as the shure SM58 they are based on. Do they sound exactly alike? Nope, One is slightly brighter than the other. THe Shure SM58 is the induestry standard which you will probably find atleast one of in every major studio that cuts vocals. And of course there are way too many variants of that mic in its $100 price range. If you can afford a few hundred dollars then the Shure SM7B is worth a look, It's probably next on my mic list. My research on it shows that its quite the utility mic, sounding good on anything you put in front of it, voice, drums, guitar cabinets, bass cabinets etc, etc. Those 3 should get you started and all have pretty good rejection of anything thats not in front of them. I would avoid condensors for now till your recording space inprooves or unless you have a walk in closet or something like that to set one up in when recording. On May 7, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
Hi, I will have to check on the exact names of my microphones if the names are even still written on them anymore as I have used these things for a long time so stuff might have been warn off but again just going out and buying brand new ones now that I am really into audio production might be the best thing. I don't always like using a microphone stand but do agree about those shock mounts as they do help a lot. Are there companies out there that specialize in prepairing a room to be a studio as I also agree with you about minimizing the ammount of noise that gets into microphones? What is the best way to stop the noise of my external hard drive or mac book pro fan noise from always existing in my recordings with out removing it afterwords? I don't want to put a material over things like a hard drive or a mac book pro because of heat and do you think a wind screen on the microphones will help on the background room noise? Nick Gawronski On 5/7/2012 5:20 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: Which microphones do you currently have? Those sound like condensors but yet you say they don't require phantom power.Personally i think every studio should own a Behringer xm8500 or two. Yeah they may only be $20 but they are every bit as good in build/sound quality as the shure SM58 they are based on. Do they sound exactly alike? Nope, One is slightly brighter than the other. THe Shure SM58 is the induestry standard which you will probably find atleast one of in every major studio that cuts vocals. And of course there are way too many variants of that mic in its $100 price range. If you can afford a few hundred dollars then the Shure SM7B is worth a look, It's probably next on my mic list. My research on it shows that its quite the utility mic, sounding good on anything you put in front of it, voice, drums, guitar cabinets, bass cabinets etc, etc. Those 3 should get you started and all have pretty good rejection of anything thats not in front of them. I would avoid condensors for now till your recording space inprooves or unless you have a walk in closet or something like that to set one up in when recording. On May 7, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Nick Gawronskin...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski
Re: best vocal microphones to use with my digi 003
If you don't want to worry about removing things after the fact, then stick to dynamic microphones like the ones i recommended. One of those and a long enough mic cable so you aren't right next to the mac and the HD and you should be fine. They are people that specialize in helping you treat a room but you are looking at about $500 and up to hire one. There are plenty of resources out there to guide you and alot of the things can be done DIY style on the cheap or be bought at areasonable prices once you figure out what your room needs. On May 7, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I will have to check on the exact names of my microphones if the names are even still written on them anymore as I have used these things for a long time so stuff might have been warn off but again just going out and buying brand new ones now that I am really into audio production might be the best thing. I don't always like using a microphone stand but do agree about those shock mounts as they do help a lot. Are there companies out there that specialize in prepairing a room to be a studio as I also agree with you about minimizing the ammount of noise that gets into microphones? What is the best way to stop the noise of my external hard drive or mac book pro fan noise from always existing in my recordings with out removing it afterwords? I don't want to put a material over things like a hard drive or a mac book pro because of heat and do you think a wind screen on the microphones will help on the background room noise? Nick Gawronski On 5/7/2012 5:20 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote: Which microphones do you currently have? Those sound like condensors but yet you say they don't require phantom power.Personally i think every studio should own a Behringer xm8500 or two. Yeah they may only be $20 but they are every bit as good in build/sound quality as the shure SM58 they are based on. Do they sound exactly alike? Nope, One is slightly brighter than the other. THe Shure SM58 is the induestry standard which you will probably find atleast one of in every major studio that cuts vocals. And of course there are way too many variants of that mic in its $100 price range. If you can afford a few hundred dollars then the Shure SM7B is worth a look, It's probably next on my mic list. My research on it shows that its quite the utility mic, sounding good on anything you put in front of it, voice, drums, guitar cabinets, bass cabinets etc, etc. Those 3 should get you started and all have pretty good rejection of anything thats not in front of them. I would avoid condensors for now till your recording space inprooves or unless you have a walk in closet or something like that to set one up in when recording. On May 7, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Nick Gawronskin...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to find some good quality microphones as the ones that I have when connected to my digi 003 I hear lots of background humming from my external drive and sounds like cars driving by. I am mainly for starting going to be recordings of friends of mine and want both microphones that can capture only what is directly in front of them and some microphones to capture all of the room like for a small group performance where I want all of the voices but not lots of background noise going threw the microphones. My current microphones don't require any phantom power in order to work and when I have tried putting them around the room the people have to talk rather loud in order to be heard or it sounds like they are far away. What types of microphones work well with the digi 003 for both of these setups I don't mind getting better quality microphones as some of these current ones go back years? Nick Gawronski
