Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread rick
So would a Mesh-a-thon warrant an Ansari prize? Or would a Data 
Link-a-thon imply a tightly funded Mechanical Turk HITS approach?


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Juan Sequeda wrote:

Hi Tony,

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Tony Shaw > wrote:


By whatever name is decided, I would be happy to contribute to a
cash prize if it would provide some momentum to the competition.

That would be awesome! Thanks!!
 


I'm also willing to facilitate a similar exercise at Enterprise Data
World 2010 and/or SemTech 2010.  We're very much trying to get the
enterprise data community more engaged in semantic technologies and
linked data, and a competition like this would help draw attention
to the possibilities.


This would be interesting. Would love to hear what you have in mind.

However I agree with the comment that (most) corproate data
architects and integrators probably won't jump into a coding
exercise during a conference, especially if they are novices.  We'd
have to bring in more experienced Semweb hackers.  But if there were
3 or 4 teams competing and we could demo their results in the final
plenary, I think that would make for a compelling showcase of Linked
Data/SemWeb capabilities.


 and I agree too!.. that is why this type of event wouldn't be for them. 
It would be for the "hackers" that can easily code something up in a 
hours/couple of days. In April after WWW, Olaf Hartig and I got together 
for a couple hours and came up with a linked data mashup using SQUIN. 
That is why I thought, if the knowledgeable people of the technology and 
the tools are together, lets have some fun, and at the same time 
showcase stuff for the rest of the world.


The data is out there. Tools exist. Can't we spend a couple hours and do 
something quick and dirty? Let's get the rest of the world excited of 
what you can do with linked data. If we can do it quick and dirty (and 
cool) in a few hours, imagine what others can start doing.



Tony Shaw
Semantic Universe &
Wilshire Conferences


*From:* Pat Hayes mailto:pha...@ihmc.us>>
*To:* Kingsley Idehen mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>>

*Cc:* Juan Sequeda mailto:juanfeder...@gmail.com>>; public-lod mailto:public-lod@w3.org>>; Semantic Web mailto:semantic-...@w3.org>>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:13:47 PM

*Subject:* Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

How about calling it a  Data Link-a-thon ?


On Sep 16, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

 > Juan Sequeda wrote:
 >> The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be
done with Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web
hackers are all together at the same place.
 > Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data
mashing.
 >>
 >> In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon
 > Why Hack when you can Mesh?
 >
 > Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued,
seriously :-)
 >
 > Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and
people with other data oriented technical skill sets not have a
look-in here? I don't think these profiles gravitate to events that
carry the  "Hacking" theme.
 >
 > Kingsley
 >
 >
 >>
 >> Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
 >> Dept. of Computer Sciences
 >> The University of Texas at Austin
 >> www.juansequeda.com 

 >> www.semanticwebaustin.org 

 >>
 >>
 >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen
mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>
>> wrote:
 >>
 >>Juan Sequeda wrote:
 >>
 >>Hi everybody,
 >>
 >>Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
 >>Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
 >>Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this
is the
 >>biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
 >>cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
 >>period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
 >>could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
 >>session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
 >>can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
 >>My objective is to get people out of this community excited
 >>about Linked Data and what they can do with it.
 >>
 >>Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.
 >>
 >>  

Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Patrick Sinclair
Hi Juan,
You can count me in on a Linked Data hack event - it will be awesome to
spend some hours at ISWC with other Linked Data enthusiasts building
interesting apps and hacks on top of Linked Data!

What can I do to help?

Patrick

2009/9/16 Juan Sequeda 

> Hi Tony,
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Tony Shaw wrote:
>
>> By whatever name is decided, I would be happy to contribute to a cash
>> prize if it would provide some momentum to the competition.
>>
>> That would be awesome! Thanks!!
>
>
>> I'm also willing to facilitate a similar exercise at Enterprise Data World
>> 2010 and/or SemTech 2010.  We're very much trying to get the enterprise data
>> community more engaged in semantic technologies and linked data, and a
>> competition like this would help draw attention to the possibilities.
>>
>>
> This would be interesting. Would love to hear what you have in mind.
>
>> However I agree with the comment that (most) corproate data architects and
>> integrators probably won't jump into a coding exercise during a conference,
>> especially if they are novices.  We'd have to bring in more experienced
>> Semweb hackers.  But if there were 3 or 4 teams competing and we could demo
>> their results in the final plenary, I think that would make for a compelling
>> showcase of Linked Data/SemWeb capabilities.
>>
>
>  and I agree too!.. that is why this type of event wouldn't be for them. It
> would be for the "hackers" that can easily code something up in a
> hours/couple of days. In April after WWW, Olaf Hartig and I got together for
> a couple hours and came up with a linked data mashup using SQUIN. That is
> why I thought, if the knowledgeable people of the technology and the tools
> are together, lets have some fun, and at the same time showcase stuff for
> the rest of the world.
>
> The data is out there. Tools exist. Can't we spend a couple hours and do
> something quick and dirty? Let's get the rest of the world excited of what
> you can do with linked data. If we can do it quick and dirty (and cool) in a
> few hours, imagine what others can start doing.
>
>>
>> Tony Shaw
>> Semantic Universe &
>> Wilshire Conferences
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Pat Hayes 
>> *To:* Kingsley Idehen 
>> *Cc:* Juan Sequeda ; public-lod <
>> public-lod@w3.org>; Semantic Web 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:13:47 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon
>>
>> How about calling it a  Data Link-a-thon ?
>>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>
>> > Juan Sequeda wrote:
>> >> The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done with
>> Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web hackers are all
>> together at the same place.
>> > Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data mashing.
>> >>
>> >> In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon
>> > Why Hack when you can Mesh?
>> >
>> > Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued, seriously :-)
>> >
>> > Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people with
>> other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in here? I don't
>> think these profiles gravitate to events that carry the  "Hacking" theme.
>> >
>> > Kingsley
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
>> >> Dept. of Computer Sciences
>> >> The University of Texas at Austin
>> >> www.juansequeda.com 
>> >> www.semanticwebaustin.org 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen <
>> kide...@openlinksw.com > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Juan Sequeda wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Hi everybody,
>> >>
>> >>Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
>> >>Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
>> >>Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
>> >>biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
>> >>cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
>> >>period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
>> >>could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
>> >>session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
>> >>can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
>> >>My objective is to get people out of this community excited
>> >>about Linked Data and what they can do with it.
>> >>
>> >>Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.
>> >>
>> >>Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
>> >>Dept. of Computer Sciences
>> >>The University of Texas at Austin
>> >>www.juansequeda.com 
>> >>
>> >>www.semanticwebaustin.org 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ulti

Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Juan Sequeda
Hi Tony,

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Tony Shaw wrote:

> By whatever name is decided, I would be happy to contribute to a cash prize
> if it would provide some momentum to the competition.
>
> That would be awesome! Thanks!!


> I'm also willing to facilitate a similar exercise at Enterprise Data World
> 2010 and/or SemTech 2010.  We're very much trying to get the enterprise data
> community more engaged in semantic technologies and linked data, and a
> competition like this would help draw attention to the possibilities.
>
>
This would be interesting. Would love to hear what you have in mind.

> However I agree with the comment that (most) corproate data architects and
> integrators probably won't jump into a coding exercise during a conference,
> especially if they are novices.  We'd have to bring in more experienced
> Semweb hackers.  But if there were 3 or 4 teams competing and we could demo
> their results in the final plenary, I think that would make for a compelling
> showcase of Linked Data/SemWeb capabilities.
>

 and I agree too!.. that is why this type of event wouldn't be for them. It
would be for the "hackers" that can easily code something up in a
hours/couple of days. In April after WWW, Olaf Hartig and I got together for
a couple hours and came up with a linked data mashup using SQUIN. That is
why I thought, if the knowledgeable people of the technology and the tools
are together, lets have some fun, and at the same time showcase stuff for
the rest of the world.

The data is out there. Tools exist. Can't we spend a couple hours and do
something quick and dirty? Let's get the rest of the world excited of what
you can do with linked data. If we can do it quick and dirty (and cool) in a
few hours, imagine what others can start doing.

>
> Tony Shaw
> Semantic Universe &
> Wilshire Conferences
>
> --
> *From:* Pat Hayes 
> *To:* Kingsley Idehen 
> *Cc:* Juan Sequeda ; public-lod ;
> Semantic Web 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:13:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon
>
> How about calling it a  Data Link-a-thon ?
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>
> > Juan Sequeda wrote:
> >> The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done with
> Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web hackers are all
> together at the same place.
> > Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data mashing.
> >>
> >> In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon
> > Why Hack when you can Mesh?
> >
> > Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued, seriously :-)
> >
> > Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people with
> other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in here? I don't
> think these profiles gravitate to events that carry the  "Hacking" theme.
> >
> > Kingsley
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
> >> Dept. of Computer Sciences
> >> The University of Texas at Austin
> >> www.juansequeda.com 
> >> www.semanticwebaustin.org 
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen <
> kide...@openlinksw.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>Juan Sequeda wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi everybody,
> >>
> >>Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
> >>Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
> >>Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
> >>biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
> >>cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
> >>period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
> >>could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
> >>session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
> >>can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
> >>My objective is to get people out of this community excited
> >>about Linked Data and what they can do with it.
> >>
> >>Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.
> >>
> >>Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
> >>Dept. of Computer Sciences
> >>The University of Texas at Austin
> >>www.juansequeda.com 
> >>
> >>www.semanticwebaustin.org 
> >>
> >>
> >>Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing?
> >>Words matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of
> >>evolution witning any innovation continuum (which includes the
> >>Web), really.
> >>
> >>You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web
> >>2.0 technologies handle that fine.
> >>
> >>Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't
> >>handled

Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Tony Shaw
By whatever name is decided, I would be happy to contribute to a cash prize if 
it would provide some momentum to the competition.

I'm also willing to facilitate a similar exercise at Enterprise Data World 2010 
and/or SemTech 2010.  We're very much trying to get the enterprise data 
community more engaged in semantic technologies and linked data, and a 
competition like this would help draw attention to the possibilities.

However I agree with the comment that (most) corproate data architects and 
integrators probably won't jump into a coding exercise during a conference, 
especially if they are novices.  We'd have to bring in more experienced Semweb 
hackers.  But if there were 3 or 4 teams competing and we could demo their 
results in the final plenary, I think that would make for a compelling showcase 
of Linked Data/SemWeb capabilities.

Tony Shaw
Semantic Universe &
Wilshire Conferences




From: Pat Hayes 
To: Kingsley Idehen 
Cc: Juan Sequeda ; public-lod ; 
Semantic Web 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:13:47 PM
Subject: Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

How about calling it a  Data Link-a-thon ?


On Sep 16, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

> Juan Sequeda wrote:
>> The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done with 
>> Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web hackers are all 
>> together at the same place.
> Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data mashing.
>> 
>> In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon
> Why Hack when you can Mesh?
> 
> Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued, seriously :-)
> 
> Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people with 
> other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in here? I don't 
> think these profiles gravitate to events that carry the  "Hacking" theme.
> 
> Kingsley
> 
> 
>> 
>> Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
>> Dept. of Computer Sciences
>> The University of Texas at Austin
>> www.juansequeda.com
>> www.semanticwebaustin.org
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen > > wrote:
>> 
>>Juan Sequeda wrote:
>> 
>>Hi everybody,
>> 
>>Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
>>Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
>>Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
>>biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
>>cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
>>period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
>>could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
>>session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
>>can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
>>My objective is to get people out of this community excited
>>about Linked Data and what they can do with it.
>> 
>>Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.
>> 
>>Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
>>Dept. of Computer Sciences
>>The University of Texas at Austin
>>www.juansequeda.com 
>>
>>www.semanticwebaustin.org 
>>
>> 
>>Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing?
>>Words matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of
>>evolution witning any innovation continuum (which includes the
>>Web), really.
>> 
>>You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web
>>2.0 technologies handle that fine.
>> 
>>Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't
>>handled by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force
>>presentation layer confined data recombinations, with code at the
>>terminal.
>> 
>>I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a-thon :-)
>> 
>>--
>> 
>>Regards,
>> 
>>Kingsley Idehen   Weblog:
>>http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>>
>>President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kingsley Idehen  Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Juan Sequeda
Wow. I was in a meeting for 2 hours and my email got flooded.

I'm glad that this discussion came up, but I don't think this is such a big
deal.

First of all. I thought to myself (and sorry for being repetitive), if the
gurus of the semantic web are together for 5 days, how about we take
advantage of that and do something *cool*. I know that ISWC is a
research/academic conference and understand that the term "hacking" may not
be well received.   But cool for whom?

Kingsley said: Linked Data meme is not about programmers solely. Its
supposed to be inherently inclusive :-)

For everybody who is not inclusive!.. which IMHO.. is about everybody else
except the semantic web community. We (the semantic web community) live in a
bubble (there, I said it!). If you talk to people outside our bubble (the
rest of the world), they think we are crazy. I know Kingsley will cut right
in and object to what I am saying but this is my real life example. FYI,
I've started the Semantic Web Austin group, we are now a non-profit, we have
industry partners, advisory board members  so I can say that "selling" the
semantic web in order to get support is HARD because we, the people in the
bubble, have not been able to convey the semantic web to the mainstream. I
urge everybody to try to explain what Linked Data and the Semantic Web is 1)
web developer 2) CEO 3) VC investors 4) my parents! If they can all
understand, I want to know what you told them. I still haven't been able to
do this successfully.

We need to bridge the semantic web community with the rest of the world.
Linked Data is starting to get traction, but we still don't have
*cool*things that can show 1) web developer 2) CEO 3) VC investors 4)
my parents!
Well actually, http://dbpedia.neofonie.de/ this is really cool that all 4
groups would see a value. So... can we get, as Giovanni says "those that
instead "would get bored otherwise" usually funnel into these things", to
build something *cool*?

Pat Hayes said: How about calling it a  Data Link-a-thon ?

I don't know how much this would imply of linking data, but I like the name.

Giovanni Tummarello said:p.s. as i was saying to juan i might be able to put
some $$$ for a prize if we really do it (need to check with accounting)

Wow, that would be awesome!

Hopefully we can come up with a neutral name that ISWC organizers can accept


Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com
www.semanticwebaustin.org


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

> Brian Manley wrote:
>
>> On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>
>>  Juan Sequeda wrote:
>>>
 The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done with
 Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web hackers are all
 together at the same place.

>>> Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data mashing.
>>>

 In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon

>>> Why Hack when you can Mesh?
>>>
>>> Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued, seriously :-)
>>>
>>>
>> Kingsley, I find it rather ironic that someone whose cryptic,
>> buzzword-overloaded, often unparsable messages here, on his blog and on
>> twitter would complain about misconstrued terms or less-than-crystal-clear
>> communication.
>>
> As context improves on the Web my messages will be clearer. The great thing
> is that I won't even have to edit (bar typos), they'll just get clearer :-)
>
>>
>> If Juan wants to call it a Mashup, Hack-a-thon, or whatever...who cares?
>>
> Some do, its an event aimed at an audience. And audience in this context is
> supposed to imply: burgeoning pool of Linked Data meme enthusiasts.
>
>>
>>  Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people with
>>> other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in here? I don't
>>> think these profiles gravitate to events that carry the  "Hacking" theme.
>>>
>>>
>> Hell yeah, "hacking" is great term to use. Don't be such a stick in the
>> mud. ;)
>>
> I am a proud "stick in the mud" re. this matter.  I would like this
> community to pay attention to "inclusion".
>
>
>
> Kingsley
>
>>
>>  Kingsley
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
 Dept. of Computer Sciences
 The University of Texas at Austin
 www.juansequeda.com 
 www.semanticwebaustin.org 


 On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen <
 kide...@openlinksw.com > wrote:

   Juan Sequeda wrote:

   Hi everybody,

   Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
   Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
   Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
   biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
   cool thin

Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen

Brian Manley wrote:

On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:


Juan Sequeda wrote:
The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done 
with Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web 
hackers are all together at the same place.

Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data mashing.


In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon

Why Hack when you can Mesh?

Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued, seriously :-)



Kingsley, I find it rather ironic that someone whose cryptic, 
buzzword-overloaded, often unparsable messages here, on his blog and 
on twitter would complain about misconstrued terms or 
less-than-crystal-clear communication.
As context improves on the Web my messages will be clearer. The great 
thing is that I won't even have to edit (bar typos), they'll just get 
clearer :-)


If Juan wants to call it a Mashup, Hack-a-thon, or whatever...who cares?
Some do, its an event aimed at an audience. And audience in this context 
is supposed to imply: burgeoning pool of Linked Data meme enthusiasts.


Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people 
with other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in 
here? I don't think these profiles gravitate to events that carry 
the  "Hacking" theme.




Hell yeah, "hacking" is great term to use. Don't be such a stick in 
the mud. ;)
I am a proud "stick in the mud" re. this matter.  I would like this 
community to pay attention to "inclusion".




Kingsley



Kingsley




Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com 
www.semanticwebaustin.org 


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen 
mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>> wrote:


   Juan Sequeda wrote:

   Hi everybody,

   Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
   Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
   Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
   biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
   cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
   period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
   could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
   session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
   can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
   My objective is to get people out of this community excited
   about Linked Data and what they can do with it.

   Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.

   Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
   Dept. of Computer Sciences
   The University of Texas at Austin
   www.juansequeda.com 
   
   www.semanticwebaustin.org 
   

   Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing?
   Words matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of
   evolution witning any innovation continuum (which includes the
   Web), really.

   You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web
   2.0 technologies handle that fine.

   Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't
   handled by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force
   presentation layer confined data recombinations, with code at the
   terminal.

   I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a-thon :-)

   --

   Regards,

   Kingsley Idehen   Weblog:
   http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
   
   President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








--


Regards,

Kingsley Idehen  Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com











--


Regards,

Kingsley Idehen   Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO 
OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen

Brian Manley wrote:

On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:


Juan Sequeda wrote:
The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done 
with Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web 
hackers are all together at the same place.

Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data mashing.


In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon

Why Hack when you can Mesh?

Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued, seriously :-)



Kingsley, I find it rather ironic that someone whose cryptic, 
buzzword-overloaded, often unparsable messages here, on his blog and 
on twitter would complain about misconstrued terms or 
less-than-crystal-clear communication.
As context improves on the Web my messages will be clearer. The great 
thing is that I won't even have to edit (bar typos), they'll just get 
clearer :-)


If Juan wants to call it a Mashup, Hack-a-thon, or whatever...who cares?
Some do, its an event aimed at an audience. And audience in this context 
is supposed to imply: burgeoning pool of Linked Data meme enthusiasts.


Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people 
with other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in 
here? I don't think these profiles gravitate to events that carry 
the  "Hacking" theme.




Hell yeah, "hacking" is great term to use. Don't be such a stick in 
the mud. ;)
I am produc stick in the mud re. this matter.  I would like this 
community to pay attention to "inclusion".


Kingsley



Kingsley




Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com 
www.semanticwebaustin.org 


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen 
mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>> wrote:


   Juan Sequeda wrote:

   Hi everybody,

   Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
   Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
   Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
   biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
   cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
   period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
   could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
   session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
   can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
   My objective is to get people out of this community excited
   about Linked Data and what they can do with it.

   Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.

   Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
   Dept. of Computer Sciences
   The University of Texas at Austin
   www.juansequeda.com 
   
   www.semanticwebaustin.org 
   

   Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing?
   Words matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of
   evolution witning any innovation continuum (which includes the
   Web), really.

   You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web
   2.0 technologies handle that fine.

   Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't
   handled by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force
   presentation layer confined data recombinations, with code at the
   terminal.

   I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a-thon :-)

   --

   Regards,

   Kingsley Idehen   Weblog:
   http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
   
   President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








--


Regards,

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President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com











--


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President & CEO 
OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Bernhard Schandl

Hi Juan,

I think that's a nice idea and I would like to join the event. Btw, we  
are planning a similar event in Vienna, located and scheduled near  
ESTC 2009, which we call "Linked Data Camp", more about this will be  
posted soon under  and .


Best,
Bernhard

On Sep 16, 2009, at 16:49 , Juan Sequeda wrote:


Hi everybody,

Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a Linked  
Data
mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked Data out there,  
enough
tools to do cool stuff, and this is the biggest semantic web  
meeting, so why
not show the world the cool things that can be done with Linked  
Data, in a
short period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this  
could run
for the whole conference, or have an afternoon session where  
everybody comes
in and codes up an mashup. We can then showcase what we have done as  
1 min
lightning talks. My objective is to get people out of this community  
excited

about Linked Data and what they can do with it.

Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.

Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com
www.semanticwebaustin.org





Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Pat Hayes

How about calling it a  Data Link-a-thon ?


On Sep 16, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:


Juan Sequeda wrote:
The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done  
with Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web  
hackers are all together at the same place.
Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data  
mashing.


In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon

Why Hack when you can Mesh?

Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued,  
seriously :-)


Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people  
with other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in  
here? I don't think these profiles gravitate to events that carry  
the  "Hacking" theme.


Kingsley




Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com 
www.semanticwebaustin.org 


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen  > wrote:


   Juan Sequeda wrote:

   Hi everybody,

   Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
   Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
   Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
   biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
   cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
   period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
   could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
   session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
   can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
   My objective is to get people out of this community excited
   about Linked Data and what they can do with it.

   Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.

   Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
   Dept. of Computer Sciences
   The University of Texas at Austin
   www.juansequeda.com 
   
   www.semanticwebaustin.org 
   

   Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing?
   Words matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of
   evolution witning any innovation continuum (which includes the
   Web), really.

   You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web
   2.0 technologies handle that fine.

   Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't
   handled by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force
   presentation layer confined data recombinations, with code at the
   terminal.

   I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a- 
thon :-)


   --

   Regards,

   Kingsley Idehen   Weblog:
   http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
   
   President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








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President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com









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Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Brian Manley

On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:


Juan Sequeda wrote:
The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done  
with Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web  
hackers are all together at the same place.
Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data  
mashing.


In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon

Why Hack when you can Mesh?

Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued,  
seriously :-)




Kingsley, I find it rather ironic that someone whose cryptic, buzzword- 
overloaded, often unparsable messages here, on his blog and on twitter  
would complain about misconstrued terms or less-than-crystal-clear  
communication.


If Juan wants to call it a Mashup, Hack-a-thon, or whatever...who cares?

Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people  
with other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in  
here? I don't think these profiles gravitate to events that carry  
the  "Hacking" theme.




Hell yeah, "hacking" is great term to use. Don't be such a stick in  
the mud. ;)



Kingsley




Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com 
www.semanticwebaustin.org 


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen  > wrote:


   Juan Sequeda wrote:

   Hi everybody,

   Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
   Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
   Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
   biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
   cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
   period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
   could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
   session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
   can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
   My objective is to get people out of this community excited
   about Linked Data and what they can do with it.

   Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.

   Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
   Dept. of Computer Sciences
   The University of Texas at Austin
   www.juansequeda.com 
   
   www.semanticwebaustin.org 
   

   Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing?
   Words matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of
   evolution witning any innovation continuum (which includes the
   Web), really.

   You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web
   2.0 technologies handle that fine.

   Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't
   handled by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force
   presentation layer confined data recombinations, with code at the
   terminal.

   I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a- 
thon :-)


   --

   Regards,

   Kingsley Idehen   Weblog:
   http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
   
   President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








--


Regards,

Kingsley Idehen   Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com










Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen

Giovanni Tummarello wrote:

Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people with
other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in here? I don't
think these profiles gravitate to events that carry the  "Hacking" theme.




they'd be probably networking and or following the conference rather
than being doing on the fly code :-)
those that instead "would get bored otherwise" usually funnel into these things.

Caters certain needs..
Giovanni

p.s. as i was saying to juan i might be able to put some $$$ for a
prize if we really do it (need to check with accounting)

  

Giovanni,

Here is a very critical and serious point re. any Linked Data Gathering.

In my dream scenario this is how it would work (in short this is what I 
hoped for a few years ago when the Cambridge Gatherings started):


1. Linked Data enthusiasts (heterogeneous profiles) gather at some event
2. Someone tosses out a HTTP URI that Identifies something that has a 
structured description, he/she does their thing with it (maybe shows off 
their browser, query tool, data store, etc.)
3. Another person comes along shows something else, but the subject HTTP 
URI doesn't change until another becomes more interesting, in line with 
session progression.


Its the year 2009, I really don't see anything mercurial about the 
dogfooding pattern outlined above.


Linked Data meme is not about programmers solely. Its supposed to be 
inherently inclusive :-)



--


Regards,

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President & CEO 
OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
>
> Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people with
> other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in here? I don't
> think these profiles gravitate to events that carry the  "Hacking" theme.


they'd be probably networking and or following the conference rather
than being doing on the fly code :-)
those that instead "would get bored otherwise" usually funnel into these things.

Caters certain needs..
Giovanni

p.s. as i was saying to juan i might be able to put some $$$ for a
prize if we really do it (need to check with accounting)



government linked data (new group at W3C)

2009-09-16 Thread Sandro Hawke

The W3C eGovernment Interest Group is in the process being re-chartered,
and the new focus is largely on government data, including gathering
experience and advising governments on how to publish linked data and
use other Semantic Web technologies.

If this is something you're interested in, please consider at least
joining our mailing list (not just for W3C members):

   http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/participation#mailinglist

If you're part of a W3C member organization, please make sure your AC
Rep [1] has reviewed the charter [2], and expressed their support and/or
given other feedback on the proposal using the comments form:
  
   http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/eGov2/   [member only]

Assuming the eGov group is re-chartered, we intend to form task forces
able to focus as necessary on particular parts of the problem space.  If
you join the mailing list or the IG now, you'll be able to help guide
the formation of those task forces.

 -- Sandro   http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/

[1] http://www.w3.org/Member/ACList   [member only]
[2] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/eGov/ig-charter



Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen

Juan Sequeda wrote:
The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done 
with Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web 
hackers are all together at the same place.

Objective was clear, my gripe was the regressive theme of data mashing.


In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon

Why Hack when you can Mesh?

Hacking is overrated, overloaded, and easily miscontrued, seriously :-)

Do Data Architects, Systems Designers, Data Integrators, and people with 
other data oriented technical skill sets not have a look-in here? I 
don't think these profiles gravitate to events that carry the  "Hacking" 
theme.


Kingsley




Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com 
www.semanticwebaustin.org 


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen 
mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>> wrote:


Juan Sequeda wrote:

Hi everybody,

Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a
Linked Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked
Data out there, enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the
biggest semantic web meeting, so why not show the world the
cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a short
period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this
could run for the whole conference, or have an afternoon
session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We
can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks.
My objective is to get people out of this community excited
about Linked Data and what they can do with it.

Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.

Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com 

www.semanticwebaustin.org 


Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing?
Words matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of
evolution witning any innovation continuum (which includes the
Web), really.

You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web
2.0 technologies handle that fine.

Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't
handled by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force
presentation layer confined data recombinations, with code at the
terminal.

I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a-thon :-)

-- 



Regards,

Kingsley Idehen   Weblog:
http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen

President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








--


Regards,

Kingsley Idehen   Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO 
OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Juan Sequeda
The objective of this idea is to show that cool things can be done with
Linked Data, and lets take advantage that the semantic web hackers are all
together at the same place.

In other words, lets rephrase this: a Linked Data Hack-a-thon

Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com
www.semanticwebaustin.org


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

> Juan Sequeda wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a Linked Data
>> mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked Data out there, enough
>> tools to do cool stuff, and this is the biggest semantic web meeting, so why
>> not show the world the cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a
>> short period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this could run
>> for the whole conference, or have an afternoon session where everybody comes
>> in and codes up an mashup. We can then showcase what we have done as 1 min
>> lightning talks. My objective is to get people out of this community excited
>> about Linked Data and what they can do with it.
>>
>> Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.
>>
>> Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
>> Dept. of Computer Sciences
>> The University of Texas at Austin
>> www.juansequeda.com 
>> www.semanticwebaustin.org 
>>
> Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing? Words
> matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of evolution witning
> any innovation continuum (which includes the Web), really.
>
> You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web 2.0
> technologies handle that fine.
>
> Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't handled
> by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force presentation layer confined
> data recombinations, with code at the terminal.
>
> I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a-thon :-)
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen   Weblog: 
> http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>
>
>
>
>


DBpedia Pages now include RDFa

2009-09-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen

All,

Quick FYI.

All DBpedia pages now include RDFa. Thus, re. the DBpedia Linked Data 
Space, you now have HTML+RDFa as a structured metadata representation 
alternative to N3, Turtle, RDF/XML, and RDF/JSON (*new*).


--


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President & CEO 
OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








Re: Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen

Juan Sequeda wrote:

Hi everybody,

Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a Linked 
Data mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked Data out there, 
enough tools to do cool stuff, and this is the biggest semantic web 
meeting, so why not show the world the cool things that can be done 
with Linked Data, in a short period of time. I haven't thought about 
details, but this could run for the whole conference, or have an 
afternoon session where everybody comes in and codes up an mashup. We 
can then showcase what we have done as 1 min lightning talks. My 
objective is to get people out of this community excited about Linked 
Data and what they can do with it.


Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.

Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com 
www.semanticwebaustin.org 
Why Mash-a-thon when Linked Data is ultimately about Data Meshing? Words 
matter a great deal when introducing critical stages of evolution 
witning any innovation continuum (which includes the Web), really.


You don't need Linked Data for Mashups. The literal realm of Web 2.0 
technologies handle that fine.


Linked Data is supposed to be about addressing those things aren't 
handled by Mashups -- which are simply about brute force presentation 
layer confined data recombinations, with code at the terminal.


I would only be interested in a Linked Data oriented Mesh-a-thon :-)

--


Regards,

Kingsley Idehen   Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO 
OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








Linked Data Mash-a-thon

2009-09-16 Thread Juan Sequeda
Hi everybody,

Chatting with John Goodwin, and idea came up of organizing a Linked Data
mash-a-thon during ISWC. There is a lot of Linked Data out there, enough
tools to do cool stuff, and this is the biggest semantic web meeting, so why
not show the world the cool things that can be done with Linked Data, in a
short period of time. I haven't thought about details, but this could run
for the whole conference, or have an afternoon session where everybody comes
in and codes up an mashup. We can then showcase what we have done as 1 min
lightning talks. My objective is to get people out of this community excited
about Linked Data and what they can do with it.

Anybody interested in participating and/or helping organize.

Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com
www.semanticwebaustin.org


Re: ...and that URI

2009-09-16 Thread Kingsley Idehen

Raphaël Troncy wrote:

Dear Norman, all,


It looks very attractive, but:


Thanks for the feedback, I'm sure W3C will love to hear from these 
comments. All, please note that I'm not working in the W3C comm team :-)


However, if you look at http://beta.w3.org/, at the bottom of the 
page, it is written that ALL can send feedbacks mailing at 
. There is a public archive available at 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/site-comments/. So use this 
channel to suggest any improvements you would like to have ...

Thanks.

  Raphaël


Raphael,

I desperately hope that posting comments here, on a w3c hosting mailing 
list, which is basically a W3C controlled data space, is the only task 
required of Web-content-tweak contributors (circa. 2009). Anything else 
is unacceptably ironic, really :-)


--


Regards,

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President & CEO 
OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com








OPEN PhD POSITIONs: Semantic Multimedia / Video Analysis / Semantic Search at HPI Potsdam, Germany

2009-09-16 Thread Harald Sack

Hello,
if somebody feels like moving to beautiful Potsdam (HPI is located  
right at the city boundary of Berlin) to work in a semantic multimedia  
retrieval project, where we will definitely do some Linked Data  
research, please

let me know.

Best,
  Harald

-

4 OPEN Ph.D. POSITIONS at Hasso-Plattner-Institute (HPI), Potsdam  
(Germany)

starting on the forth quarter of 2009

Hasso-Plattner-Institute (HPI) is a privately financed institute  
affiliated with the University of Potsdam, Germany. The Institute's  
founder and benefactor Professor Hasso Plattner, who is also co- 
founder and chairman of the supervisory board of SAP AG, has created  
an opportunity for students to experience a unique education in IT  
systems engineering in a professional research environment with a  
strong practice orientation.

(for more information on HPI, c.f. http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/ )

Project Description:
MEDIAGLOBE is part of the THESEUS research program initiated by the  
German Federal Ministry of Economy and Technology (BMWi), with the  
goal of developing a new Internet-based infrastructure in order to  
better use and utilize the knowledge available on the Internet. The  
focus of the research program is on semantic technologies, which  
determine contents (words, images, sounds, and videos) not through  
conventional methods (e.g., combinations of letters) but which are  
able to recognize and place the meaning of a content in its proper  
context. MEDIAGLOBE deals with digitalization, analysis, and semantic  
retrieval of historical, documentary audiovisual content.
(for more information on MEDIAGLOBE, c.f. http://theseus-programm.de/theseus-mittelstand-2009/ 
 )


The ideal candidate holds a MS degree in Computer Science or related  
field and is able to consider both theoretical and practical/  
implementation aspects in her/his work. Fluent english communication  
and programming skills are fundamental requirements. Preferably the  
candidate has a background in one of the following fields:

• semantic web technologies
• knowledge representations and ontology engineering
• audiovisual retrieval and analysis
• semantic search
• innovative web development
• user interface design for audiovisual content

The position starts as soon as possible and is full-time (40h/week)  
for the duration of the project until Oct 2011.
Review of applications will begin immediately and will continue until  
the position is filled. The successful candidate will tightly work  
with international partners and has the possibility to pursue PhD work  
within the scope of the project.


How to apply:
Excellent candidates are invited to apply with:
• Curriculum vitae and copies of degree certificates/transcripts,
	• Writing samples/copies of relevant scientific papers (e.g. thesis,  
etc.),

• Letters of recommendation.

Please send your application in PDF format indicating in the subject
,Application for PhD position‘ via email or via traditional mail to  
the following contact.


Contact and application:
Harald Sack
Hasso-Plattner-Institut für Softwaresystemtechnik GmbH
Universität Potsdam
Prof.-Dr.-Helmert-Str. 2-3
D-14482 Potsdam, Germany

phone:  +49 (0)331-5509-527
fax:+49 (0)331-5509-325
email:  harald.s...@hpi.uni-potsdam.de
web:http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/meinel/persons/sack.html

--
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Hasso-Plattner-Institut für Softwaresystemtechnik GmbH
Universität Potsdam
Prof.-Dr.-Helmert-Str. 2-3
D-14482 Potsdam
Germany
Tel.: +49 (0)331-5509-527
Fax: +49 (0)331-5509-325
E-Mail: harald.s...@hpi.uni-potsdam.de
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/meinel/sack.html







Re: ...and that URI

2009-09-16 Thread Danny Ayers
2009/9/16 Norman Gray :

> Ooops, sorry.  I've sent the comments off to their proper place.

ditto



-- 
http://danny.ayers.name



Re: ...and that URI

2009-09-16 Thread Norman Gray


Rafaël, hello.

On 2009 Sep 16, at 10:08, Raphaël Troncy wrote:

Thanks for the feedback, I'm sure W3C will love to hear from these  
comments. All, please note that I'm not working in the W3C comm  
team :-)


However, if you look at http://beta.w3.org/, at the bottom of the page


Ooops, sorry.  I've sent the comments off to their proper place.

Best wishes,

Norman


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Re: ...and that URI

2009-09-16 Thread François Dongier
2009/9/15 Danny Ayers 

> Thanks Raphaël - great stuff! I very much like the 5 aspects (though
> visually it's begging for a 6th - not that I can think of one :)
>
>
How about Trust?


Re: ...and that URI

2009-09-16 Thread Raphaël Troncy

Dear Norman, all,


It looks very attractive, but:


Thanks for the feedback, I'm sure W3C will love to hear from these 
comments. All, please note that I'm not working in the W3C comm team :-)


However, if you look at http://beta.w3.org/, at the bottom of the page, 
it is written that ALL can send feedbacks mailing at 
. There is a public archive available at 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/site-comments/. So use this channel 
to suggest any improvements you would like to have ...

Thanks.

  Raphaël

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Re: ...and that URI

2009-09-16 Thread Norman Gray


Greetings,

2009/9/15 Raphaël Troncy :

I guess you are not aware of the re-design of the W3C web site.
Check the beta version of the upcoming SW page:
http://beta.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/ (LOD is upfront :-)


It looks very attractive, but:

  * Under the 'Inference' head you have what appears to be a funny  
character (intended to be a dash?) after 'one finds inference'.  It's  
probably just an encoding slipup.


  * 'Linked data are...'?  I am most emphatic that 'data'  
is a mass noun, and therefore singular.  Since some are rash enough to  
disagree, the argument can potentially be sidestepped by something  
like 'The linked data project is empowered...' or 'This linked data  
web is empowered...'


All the best,

Norman


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