[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Camp Oct 1-2 at SFSU

2009-06-11 Thread James Turnbull

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David Schmitt wrote:
> 
> I'm currently trying to re-activate the PuppetCommonModules[1] project 
> in redmine and seed it with some of my modules from 
> http://git.black.co.at/. I've already got positive feedback on the IRC 
> channel, just trying[2] to get Luke on the phone to get the "official" 
> side licked.

I had a chat with Luke and he was supportive of the idea and I also
think its a way cool move.

I've also started thinking about a way to deploy the modules (welcome
input here too) once we've got a central home for them and some further
agreements on standardisation - many platforms/distro support in one
module for example.

For everyone's interest:

http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleStandards

This documents the current thinking around standards - it's very early
stages and needs more input and consensus.

> Meanwhile I'm also trying to merge the various forks and advancements of 
> the modules. The first batch of modules can be seen on my github 
> account[3].

I look forward to all the people who manage module collections putting
in their ten cents of approach and design.  Woot! Bring on the merge fest!

Regards

James Turnbull

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[Puppet Users] Re: Variables in definitions

2009-06-11 Thread David Schmitt

DrKJam schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> A quick "Hello" to every as this is my first post on the Puppet Users group.
> 
> I had some training with Teyo in London recently and am busy
> evaluating Puppet to replace a config engine developed for internal
> use at my company.
> 
> Question: Is it possible to refer to variables declared inside
> realised definitions?
> 
> Here's a basic example of how to refer to variables defined inside the
> scope of a class that is not your own :-
> 
> test.pp
> --
> class foo {
> $bar = 'baz'
> }
> include foo
> notice("$foo::bar")
> 
> output :-
> --
> notice: Scope(Class[main]): baz
> 
> Is there any equivalent syntax for definitions along the lines of :-
> 
> $foo['somename']::bar
> 
> Is it possible to do something similar with definitions or is this
> just abuse of Puppet principles ;-)

Currently this is not possible.

> Basically what I'm trying to achieve is the set up of a bunch of
> scopes with variables in them. These are then combined in various ways
> to configure multiple instances of an application on a individual
> system (of which there may be many).
> 
> It's proving to be tougher than I thought ;-)
> 
> Any thoughts or suggestions on the direction I could take from here?

That's a tough question to answer without actually seeing your specific 
requirements.

The common way would be to create a define representing application 
instances and using this define to setup instances:

| define application($path1, $path2, $param1, $param2) { ... }


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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Camp Oct 1-2 at SFSU

2009-06-11 Thread David Schmitt

Hi David, *!

David Lutterkort schrieb:
> On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 16:59 +0100, Matt wrote:
>> A few things from the top of my head:
>>
>> 1) What people have done in regard to node management, as well as
>> dealing with nodes that do not have static DNS names such as when
>> using Ec2.
>> 2) Success/failures on scaling puppet out to n clients
>> 3) How it's been incorporated in to development, operations, and
>> infrastructure environments
> 
> I'd be very interested in hearing anything about module reuse, both
> within organizations, and from the various repos out there. Both
> successes, and even more failures. In a similar vein, anything about
> attempts at using modules to provide simplified config building blocks
> to others.
> 
> Maybe an in-person meeting would be a good opportunity to revive the
> 'grand unified puppet module repo' idea that has been out there for a
> while, but never really taken off.
> 
> BTW, I will definitely attend if I am in town (there's a very small
> chance that I might not be)

I'm currently trying to re-activate the PuppetCommonModules[1] project 
in redmine and seed it with some of my modules from 
http://git.black.co.at/. I've already got positive feedback on the IRC 
channel, just trying[2] to get Luke on the phone to get the "official" 
side licked.

Meanwhile I'm also trying to merge the various forks and advancements of 
the modules. The first batch of modules can be seen on my github 
account[3].

Regards, DavidS

[1] http://projects.reductivelabs.com/projects/pcm
[2] holidays on both sides of the pond made that a bit difficult lately ;)
[3] http://github.com/DavidS

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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Asif Iqbal

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Luke Kanies wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Luke Kanies wrote:

 On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kanies
> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>>
>>> In my puppet client I have
>>> puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet
>>>
>>> server = mypuppet.example.net
>>>
>>> Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
>>> noises to the syslog
>>>
>>> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911
>>> daemon.error]
>>> Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
>>> known
>>> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911
>>> daemon.error]
>>> Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could
>>> not
>>> find server puppet
>>> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
>>> daemon.notice]
>>> Starting catalog run
>>> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
>>> daemon.notice]
>>> Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds
>>>
>>> Am I hitting a but?
>>
>>
>> Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket
>> --
>> do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?
>
> my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
> in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry
> I am
> a puppet newbie

 Look for a 'filebucket' resource in your manifests.
>>>
>>> nothing there in puppet master
>>>
>>> # /etc/puppet/manifests# ls
>>> classes  site.pp  site.pp.orig
>>
>> What's the output of 'grep -r filebucket *' in that directory?
>
>
> # /etc/puppet/manifests# grep -r filebucket *
> #
>
> Nothing found

Also I am not seeing the error on puppet-test the puppet clients
syslog anymore.

# less /var/adm/messages
[..]
Jun 10 13:52:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
known
Jun 10 13:52:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could not
find server puppet
[...]
#
# date
Thu Jun 11 22:12:17 EDT 2009

Jun 10 13:52:23 was the last time I saw that error


No idea what changed. Oh well, at least the noise is not there anymore

Thanks for your help



>
>>
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>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>
>
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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Asif Iqbal

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Luke Kanies wrote:
>
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Luke Kanies wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>>>

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kanies
 wrote:
>
> On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>
>> In my puppet client I have
>> puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet
>>
>> server = mypuppet.example.net
>>
>> Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
>> noises to the syslog
>>
>> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911
>> daemon.error]
>> Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
>> known
>> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911
>> daemon.error]
>> Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could
>> not
>> find server puppet
>> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
>> daemon.notice]
>> Starting catalog run
>> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
>> daemon.notice]
>> Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds
>>
>> Am I hitting a but?
>
>
> Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket
> --
> do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?

 my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
 in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry
 I am
 a puppet newbie
>>>
>>> Look for a 'filebucket' resource in your manifests.
>>
>> nothing there in puppet master
>>
>> # /etc/puppet/manifests# ls
>> classes  site.pp  site.pp.orig
>
> What's the output of 'grep -r filebucket *' in that directory?


# /etc/puppet/manifests# grep -r filebucket *
#

Nothing found

>
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>
>
> >
>



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[Puppet Users] Managing content of state.yaml

2009-06-11 Thread Greg

Hi all,

I have a tidy block set up to clean up old Puppet reports (older than
1 month). One side effect of this is that every file that is removed
gets added into the state.yaml file. On a small scale this is not a
bad thing - it keeps track of what's been culled, etc...

On a larger scale (ie. Tidy is cleaning a lot of files with different
filenames) the state.yaml file will grow and grow. This whole state
file is read in on a regular basis by the Puppet daemon. Its probably
a small one for most people, but in theory it is a persistent memory
leak.

What is the general best practice for managing Puppet state/config
databases?

Greg
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[Puppet Users] Re: Another Redundant Puppet Master Servers Thread

2009-06-11 Thread chakkerz

Sounds sensible and straight forward. Thanks for that!
chakkerz
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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Camp Oct 1-2 at SFSU

2009-06-11 Thread David Lutterkort

On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 16:59 +0100, Matt wrote:
> A few things from the top of my head:
> 
> 1) What people have done in regard to node management, as well as
> dealing with nodes that do not have static DNS names such as when
> using Ec2.
> 2) Success/failures on scaling puppet out to n clients
> 3) How it's been incorporated in to development, operations, and
> infrastructure environments

I'd be very interested in hearing anything about module reuse, both
within organizations, and from the various repos out there. Both
successes, and even more failures. In a similar vein, anything about
attempts at using modules to provide simplified config building blocks
to others.

Maybe an in-person meeting would be a good opportunity to revive the
'grand unified puppet module repo' idea that has been out there for a
while, but never really taken off.

BTW, I will definitely attend if I am in town (there's a very small
chance that I might not be)

David



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[Puppet Users] Re: Another Redundant Puppet Master Servers Thread

2009-06-11 Thread RijilV

2009/6/11 chakkerz :
> Which leads to my two questions:
> 1) how do i keep the certs on both prod hosts ? I assume they ID the
> host uniquely, so just copying them across is not the way forward,
> though i'm planning to use some sort of IP failover between the two
> prod hosts, and i'm thinking signing against the shared IP may be
> sufficient (have not tried).

So, you don't need the client certs on any puppetmaster.   All that is
important is that the client trusts the master's cert, and that the
master trusts the client's cert.  Probably the easiest way of doing
that is (1) just putting the same cert on both puppetmasters, or (2)
including the contents of both ca.pem on all hosts, and lastly (3)
creating a rootCA that all parties trust and just sign all the keys
accordingly.

And also fwiw, the host is only identified by its FQDN by default -
its the CN in the cert.

> 2) has anyone used puppet with IP failover ? My Red Hat Cluster Suite
> nodes are currently intent on upsetting me so i'm inclined not to go
> that way, rather i'm considering ucarp. Regardless, has anyone tried
> puppet + IP failover?

We did it in active-active with load balancers, which could have
easily been active-passive.  Its just a simple web service from the
perspective of high availability.  When the move to REST is complete
it'll be even more simple.

> I guess there is a 3: is there a way of just specifying two hosts in
> the config (and what does that mean to certificates)?

No, I assume the thought being high availability would be handled
outside of the client.  This has come up a few times now though... I
think I'd rather see ordered A or SRV RRs.


.r'

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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppetrun timeout

2009-06-11 Thread Pete Emerson
Aha! Excellent. Reference:

http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ReportsAndReporting

I haven't played with this piece of puppet yet, but will do so now.

Thanks,
Pete

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Luke Kanies  wrote:

>
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Pete Emerson wrote:
>
> > Hrm, I'm running it with --foreground so that I know when it's
> > complete, and I'm getting these execution expired messages, which I
> > took to mean that puppetrun already has some sort of internal
> > timeout mechanism. Is that not the case?
> >
> > I guess an alternative would be to run with --no-foreground. If I do
> > that, is there a way to query host and see when it's last successful
> > update was, in order to show that the changes have been completed?
> >
> > If that doesn't work, then I guess I'd have to ssh to each box and
> > run puppetd there and wait for it to finish.
>
> I'd recommend using reports from the client to figure out when it's
> done.
>
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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Luke Kanies wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kanies  
>>> wrote:

 On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

> In my puppet client I have
> puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet
>
> server = mypuppet.example.net
>
> Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
> noises to the syslog
>
> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911  
> daemon.error]
> Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
> known
> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911  
> daemon.error]
> Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could
> not
> find server puppet
> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
> daemon.notice]
> Starting catalog run
> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
> daemon.notice]
> Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds
>
> Am I hitting a but?


 Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket  
 --
 do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?
>>>
>>> my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
>>> in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry  
>>> I am
>>> a puppet newbie
>>
>> Look for a 'filebucket' resource in your manifests.
>
> nothing there in puppet master
>
> # /etc/puppet/manifests# ls
> classes  site.pp  site.pp.orig

What's the output of 'grep -r filebucket *' in that directory?

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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Asif Iqbal

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Luke Kanies wrote:
>
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kanies wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>>>
 In my puppet client I have
 puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet

 server = mypuppet.example.net

 Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
 noises to the syslog

 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
 known
 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could
 not
 find server puppet
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
 daemon.notice]
 Starting catalog run
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
 daemon.notice]
 Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds

 Am I hitting a but?
>>>
>>>
>>> Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket --
>>> do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?
>>
>> my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
>> in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry I am
>> a puppet newbie
>
> Look for a 'filebucket' resource in your manifests.

nothing there in puppet master

# /etc/puppet/manifests# ls
classes  site.pp  site.pp.orig


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>
>
> >
>



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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppetrun timeout

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Pete Emerson wrote:

> Hrm, I'm running it with --foreground so that I know when it's  
> complete, and I'm getting these execution expired messages, which I  
> took to mean that puppetrun already has some sort of internal  
> timeout mechanism. Is that not the case?
>
> I guess an alternative would be to run with --no-foreground. If I do  
> that, is there a way to query host and see when it's last successful  
> update was, in order to show that the changes have been completed?
>
> If that doesn't work, then I guess I'd have to ssh to each box and  
> run puppetd there and wait for it to finish.

I'd recommend using reports from the client to figure out when it's  
done.

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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppetrun timeout

2009-06-11 Thread Pete Emerson
Hrm, I'm running it with --foreground so that I know when it's complete, and
I'm getting these execution expired messages, which I took to mean that
puppetrun already has some sort of internal timeout mechanism. Is that not
the case?

I guess an alternative would be to run with --no-foreground. If I do that,
is there a way to query host and see when it's last successful update was,
in order to show that the changes have been completed?

If that doesn't work, then I guess I'd have to ssh to each box and run
puppetd there and wait for it to finish.

Pete

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Luke Kanies  wrote:

>
> On Jun 8, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Pete Emerson wrote:
>
> > I'm using puppet 0.24.7-4. I have a situation where I have some very
> > long running puppet runs in order to do upgrades (removing
> > applications from load balancers gracefully, et cetera).
> >
> > My puppet runs triggered via puppetrun are finishing successfully:
> >
> > Jun  8 20:31:29 puppetd[10178]: Finished catalog run in 345.18 seconds
> >
> > Puppetrun itself is timing out:
> >
> > err: Connection timeout calling puppetrunner.run: execution expired
> > Host myhost failed: Connection Timeout
> > myhost finished with exit code 2
> >
> > I'm calling puppetrun with --foreground: puppetrun --host=myhost --
> > host=myhost2 --host=myhost3 --foreground --parallel
> >
> > However, I don't see anything in the puppetrun doco that hints at
> > setting the execution exiry time. Any suggestions?
>
>
> I'd run with --no-foreground.  Or, modify puppetrun to have a timeout?
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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kanies wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>>
>>> In my puppet client I have
>>> puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet
>>>
>>> server = mypuppet.example.net
>>>
>>> Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
>>> noises to the syslog
>>>
>>> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
>>> Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
>>> known
>>> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
>>> Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could  
>>> not
>>> find server puppet
>>> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911  
>>> daemon.notice]
>>> Starting catalog run
>>> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911  
>>> daemon.notice]
>>> Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds
>>>
>>> Am I hitting a but?
>>
>>
>> Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket --
>> do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?
>
> my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
> in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry I am
> a puppet newbie

Look for a 'filebucket' resource in your manifests.

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[Puppet Users] Re: Controlling the order of execution of puppet code?

2009-06-11 Thread James Turnbull
Rene wrote:
> Does anybody know the status of that patch?
> 

It's pushed and will be in 0.25.0.  The next 0.25.0 release will be
beta2 but I haven't got a date yet.

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[Puppet Users] Another Redundant Puppet Master Servers Thread

2009-06-11 Thread chakkerz

So it looks like at least the linux side of things is sorted at my
site, which means i'm approaching go-live.

With CFengine we've had two servers defined in the configuration, but
puppet doesn't seem to do that and there are other issues with this
setup (well our current setup of cfengine anyway). My plan was this:

My dev host remains that - new modules and such get built on it, and
when it's tested and working we check it in to svn.

My prod hosts update from svn via cron every X minutes (thinking
between 5 and 15) and serve their data.

Which leads to my two questions:
1) how do i keep the certs on both prod hosts ? I assume they ID the
host uniquely, so just copying them across is not the way forward,
though i'm planning to use some sort of IP failover between the two
prod hosts, and i'm thinking signing against the shared IP may be
sufficient (have not tried).
2) has anyone used puppet with IP failover ? My Red Hat Cluster Suite
nodes are currently intent on upsetting me so i'm inclined not to go
that way, rather i'm considering ucarp. Regardless, has anyone tried
puppet + IP failover?

I guess there is a 3: is there a way of just specifying two hosts in
the config (and what does that mean to certificates)?

Cheers
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[Puppet Users] Variables in definitions

2009-06-11 Thread DrKJam

Hi,

A quick "Hello" to every as this is my first post on the Puppet Users group.

I had some training with Teyo in London recently and am busy
evaluating Puppet to replace a config engine developed for internal
use at my company.

Question: Is it possible to refer to variables declared inside
realised definitions?

Here's a basic example of how to refer to variables defined inside the
scope of a class that is not your own :-

test.pp
--
class foo {
$bar = 'baz'
}
include foo
notice("$foo::bar")

output :-
--
notice: Scope(Class[main]): baz

Is there any equivalent syntax for definitions along the lines of :-

$foo['somename']::bar

Is it possible to do something similar with definitions or is this
just abuse of Puppet principles ;-)

Basically what I'm trying to achieve is the set up of a bunch of
scopes with variables in them. These are then combined in various ways
to configure multiple instances of an application on a individual
system (of which there may be many).

It's proving to be tougher than I thought ;-)

Any thoughts or suggestions on the direction I could take from here?

Regards,

David Moss

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[Puppet Users] Re: Controlling the order of execution of puppet code?

2009-06-11 Thread Rene

Does anybody know the status of that patch?

On May 29, 10:01 am, Brice Figureau 
wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 08:18 +1000, James Turnbull wrote:
> > Brice Figureau wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:55 +0200, Peter Meier wrote:
> > >> Hi
>
> > >>> Only way I know is to make individual objects depend on other objects.
> > >>> Can't do it at
> > >>> class level... I think there is a feature request somewhere in the
> > >>> system for this, because
> > >>> I'd like it as well...
> > >> hmm did I only dream that in the upcoming release there will be a  
> > >> require (or something like that) keyword to include a class and  
> > >> require it. Unfortunately I'm not able to find the appropriate bug  
> > >> report.
>
> > > I implemented it for sure, but in the end I think it was rejected:
> > >http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/1907
>
> > > Re-reading the thread I see why we rejected the bug, but not the patch.
> > > I think I'll have to resubmit it.
>
> > Yes - had to go re-read myself.  As long as we provide both functions -
> > include and a stronger require - I think this is an easy +1.
>
> Yes, that's what my patch was doing.
> I'll resurrect the patch and post it to puppet-dev this week-end.
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[Puppet Users] Alternate file source

2009-06-11 Thread Jason Antman

I was wondering if anyone out there has done any work on other URI types
for File "source" ?

I have a few machines that need some local scripts copied over, which
are stored in CVS or Subversion. It would be really helpful if, instead
of having to check out the scripts into the module's files/ directory
when they change, I could just provide Puppet with a http:// or svn://
URI

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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Asif Iqbal

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kanies wrote:
>
> On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:
>
>> In my puppet client I have
>> puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet
>>
>> server = mypuppet.example.net
>>
>> Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
>> noises to the syslog
>>
>> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
>> Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
>> known
>> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
>> Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could not
>> find server puppet
>> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice]
>> Starting catalog run
>> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice]
>> Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds
>>
>> Am I hitting a but?
>
>
> Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket --
> do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?

my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry I am
a puppet newbie

>
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>
> >
>



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[Puppet Users] Re: puppetd not running on intervals

2009-06-11 Thread Len Rugen
We are just putting our RHEL 4 systems in crontab

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Christopher
wrote:

>
> Turns out this is a bug in facter which is fixed in 1.5.5. The rpm is
> available in epel-testing.
>
> On Jun 10, 11:18 am, Christopher 
> wrote:
> > I'm having the same exact problem here on quite a few el4 machines.
> > Those that don't work are running puppet 0.24.8 whereas I do have one
> > el4 that works and it's running 0.23.0.
>
>  >
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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

> In my puppet client I have
> puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet
>
> server = mypuppet.example.net
>
> Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
> noises to the syslog
>
> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
> Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
> known
> Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
> Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could not
> find server puppet
> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice]
> Starting catalog run
> Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice]
> Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds
>
> Am I hitting a but?


Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket --  
do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?

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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppetrun timeout

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 8, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Pete Emerson wrote:

> I'm using puppet 0.24.7-4. I have a situation where I have some very  
> long running puppet runs in order to do upgrades (removing  
> applications from load balancers gracefully, et cetera).
>
> My puppet runs triggered via puppetrun are finishing successfully:
>
> Jun  8 20:31:29 puppetd[10178]: Finished catalog run in 345.18 seconds
>
> Puppetrun itself is timing out:
>
> err: Connection timeout calling puppetrunner.run: execution expired
> Host myhost failed: Connection Timeout
> myhost finished with exit code 2
>
> I'm calling puppetrun with --foreground: puppetrun --host=myhost -- 
> host=myhost2 --host=myhost3 --foreground --parallel
>
> However, I don't see anything in the puppetrun doco that hints at  
> setting the execution exiry time. Any suggestions?


I'd run with --no-foreground.  Or, modify puppetrun to have a timeout?

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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Certification?

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 3, 2009, at 6:03 AM, paul matthews wrote:

> I realise this could be a long way off as Puppet is rapidly  
> evolving, with development still at the forefront but are there  
> plans in the furture to offer a Puppet Certification exam. I know  
> the subject of certification is not to everyone's taste, but I find  
> studying for these is a good way for me to focus on learning all the  
> subject areas and to demonstrate some level of competence to any  
> would be employers. I think there would be benefits to Reductive  
> too, I guess mostly in the area of getting people to attend training  
> courses
>
> I'll get my flame proof suit on in anticipation for any replies

We've actually had quite a few people ask for certification, for  
various reasons, and we plan on offering it.  We hope to have a first  
pass available something like the end of 2009.  Obviously, the more  
people ask for it, the faster it will get done.

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[Puppet Users] Re: how do I submit a patch?

2009-06-11 Thread Felix Schäfer

Am 11.06.2009 um 17:23 schrieb Paul Nasrat:

> That all should be part of libc. Try apt-get install build-essential.

Actually, libc6-dev was enough.

"""
Architecture:  x86_64
CPU(s):2
Thread(s) per core:1
Core(s) per socket:1
CPU socket(s): 2
NUMA node(s):  1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family:6
Model: 2
Stepping:  3
CPU MHz:   2659.996
Hypervisor vendor ID:  KVMKVMKVM
Virtualization type:   full
"""

Ubuntu guest in KVM.

Regards,

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[Puppet Users] Re: how do I submit a patch?

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Nasrat

>> gcc -o lscpu lscpu.c
>
> I get:
> """
> lscpu.c:21:19: Fehler: ctype.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:22:20: Fehler: dirent.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:23:17: Fehler: err.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:24:19: Fehler: errno.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:25:19: Fehler: fcntl.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:26:20: Fehler: getopt.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:27:19: Fehler: stdio.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:28:20: Fehler: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:29:20: Fehler: string.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:30:25: Fehler: sys/utsname.h: No such file or directory
> lscpu.c:31:20: Fehler: unistd.h: No such file or directory
> """
> on an ubuntu KVM guest with gcc installed. I suppose I lack some paths
> in some ENV variables, can anyone point me to which ones?

That all should be part of libc. Try apt-get install build-essential.

Paul

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[Puppet Users] trying to understand puppet internal

2009-06-11 Thread Arnau Bria

Hi all,

I keep doing my own scalability test. Trying to run puppet in all nodes
at once.

I've started with a fresh puppet+mongrel install (4 cpus, 4
puppetmasterd).

I decided to start with a simple test, copying 1MB file to 188 nodes.
No node type/group.
It worked really fine.

Now I'm trying with new test, 100files, one rpm install and 1 service
stop.
No node type/group.
Worked fine.


Next test is my prod conf. I has many classes, some definition, host
group, dependencies, etc...
And here puppet crashes...


So I'd like to simplify my conf, and I'm wondering how puppet evaluates
a node conf, so maybe I could reduce its complexity... 

For example, user/group creation, I rarely add users, so I could disable
that class in a dynamic way? maybe adding some condition? or adding a
condition will overload puppet server? or packages, i have about 50
sepaarte packages, If I define a var with all packages, will the load
down? 


Any tips will be appreciate,
Cheers,
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[Puppet Users] Re: how do I submit a patch?

2009-06-11 Thread Felix Schäfer

Hi,

Am 11.06.2009 um 15:41 schrieb Paul Nasrat:

> gcc -o lscpu lscpu.c

I get:
"""
lscpu.c:21:19: Fehler: ctype.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:22:20: Fehler: dirent.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:23:17: Fehler: err.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:24:19: Fehler: errno.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:25:19: Fehler: fcntl.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:26:20: Fehler: getopt.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:27:19: Fehler: stdio.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:28:20: Fehler: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:29:20: Fehler: string.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:30:25: Fehler: sys/utsname.h: No such file or directory
lscpu.c:31:20: Fehler: unistd.h: No such file or directory
"""
on an ubuntu KVM guest with gcc installed. I suppose I lack some paths  
in some ENV variables, can anyone point me to which ones?

Felix

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[Puppet Users] Re: how do I submit a patch?

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Nasrat

2009/6/10 Dick Davies :
>
> Thanks James.
>
> Actually it's the same fundamental issue as
>
>   http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2067
>
> so i've amended that ticket.
>
> I won't send a patch just yet, but at least I can pick through the code
> now when I get a spare hour :) Thanks for the pointers.

I'm in the middle of completely rewriting the fact.

On your virtual box guest can you give me the output of running lscpu:

wget http://people.redhat.com/kzak/lscpu.c
gcc -o lscpu lscpu.c
./lscpu

Cheers

Paul

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[Puppet Users] Re: Exporting and collecting resources on the multiple hosts problem

2009-06-11 Thread Chris

> If you're running a version affected, upgrade to the 0.24.8 version on
> your master.
>

Ah, that would explain it.  I'm running the version that comes with
OpenCSW (the solaris package repo.), which is currently at 0.24.7.
I'll see if there are any plans to upgrade that in the near future,
and if not, I'll see about doing a re-install from source.

Thanks!

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[Puppet Users] Re: Exporting and collecting resources on the multiple hosts problem

2009-06-11 Thread Brice Figureau

Hi,

On which version of puppet is running on your puppetmaster?
Various versions had some issues with exported/collected resources (0.24.7
was one of them, if I remember correctly).

On Thu, June 11, 2009 13:44, Chris wrote:
>
> I'm using puppet to generate nagios configs in what I guess is the
> 'usual' way; by having each host export config a files for each nagios
> check using  @@file {...tag=nagios...}, which are then collected onto
> the nagios server with File <<|tag == 'nagios' |>>

Yes, this looks like pretty standard.

> I have two nagios servers, and I want each of them to collect all of
> the config files.

No issue, each one has to File <<||>>.

> The nagios servers also define nagios checks of their own (having two
> means they can check each other, which is handy).
>
> Now, what's strange is that the nagios servers don't appear collect
> each others' checks. So each nagios server gets the checks for itself,
> and for all the other non-nagios servers, but not for the other
> nagios.
>
> Looking in the database, it seems that the nagios config file
> resources, on both  servers, are marked as "exported=0". So they
> appear on their own server by virtue of being 'real'  resources,
> despite being defined with @@file...

This really looks like one of the issue in 0.24.7.

> I guess this is something to do with the fact that the same node is
> exporting the resource and collecting it - could this somehow cause
> puppet to think that, since the resource is being collected locally,
> it doesn't need to be exported?
>
> Is there a way around this?

If you're running a version affected, upgrade to the 0.24.8 version on
your master.

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[Puppet Users] Exporting and collecting resources on the multiple hosts problem

2009-06-11 Thread Chris

Hi,

I'm using puppet to generate nagios configs in what I guess is the
'usual' way; by having each host export config a files for each nagios
check using  @@file {...tag=nagios...}, which are then collected onto
the nagios server with File <<|tag == 'nagios' |>>


I have two nagios servers, and I want each of them to collect all of
the config files.

The nagios servers also define nagios checks of their own (having two
means they can check each other, which is handy).

Now, what's strange is that the nagios servers don't appear collect
each others' checks. So each nagios server gets the checks for itself,
and for all the other non-nagios servers, but not for the other
nagios.

Looking in the database, it seems that the nagios config file
resources, on both  servers, are marked as "exported=0". So they
appear on their own server by virtue of being 'real'  resources,
despite being defined with @@file...

I guess this is something to do with the fact that the same node is
exporting the resource and collecting it - could this somehow cause
puppet to think that, since the resource is being collected locally,
it doesn't need to be exported?

Is there a way around this?

Thanks

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[Puppet Users] Re: Any way to stop has_variable? throwing errors?

2009-06-11 Thread Trevor Vaughan

One other try:

<% if classes.index('httpd') 

I forgot that tags weren't exposed in the ERB.

Trevor

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:42, Dick Davies wrote:
>
> Hi Trevor, thanks for the idea.
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Trevor Vaughan wrote:
>
>> Someone might give you a better answer, but try:
>>
>> <% if tags.index('httpd') && has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %>
>>
>> This *may not* work due to file parsing order, but I *think* that it will.
>
> I did too, but it doesn't :(
>
> The only reason I tried variables is because tags aren't visible
> (due to scoping?).
>
> It seems you can't see tags (autotags or tags set explicitly with
> tag('httpd') defined in
> classes your class includes.
>
> This is a real problem from where I'm sat; it does make me wonder what
> tags are actually
> useful for.
>
> I suppose I could define the tag in the node, but that seems pretty
> redundant since I'm
> also including the 'httpd' class.
>
>
>
>
>
>> Trevor
>>
>> Dick Davies wrote:
>>> I'm using a primitive template to build my iptables rulesets.
>>> It's all in a branch on my github repo at
>>>
>>> http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/tree/templated-iptables
>>>
>>> template that looks like:
>>>
>>> <% if has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %>
>>> -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j 
>>> ACCEPT
>>> <% end -%>
>>>
>>> (see 
>>> http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/iptables/templates/iptables.erb
>>> )
>>>
>>> i then set a variable in the httpd module like this:
>>>
>>> class httpd {
>>>   $open_firewall = 'on'
>>>   # rest of httpd class def.
>>> }
>>>
>>> [ 
>>> http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/httpd/manifests/init.pp
>>> ]
>>>
>>> The idea being that if a node has 'include httpd', then when it runs
>>> 'include iptables'
>>> it'll open the right port.
>>>
>>> This works fine for classes that include httpd. The trouble is that i
>>> get this error on
>>> nodes that don't :
>>>
>>> [r...@node03 ~]# puppetd -tv
>>> info: Retrieving plugins
>>> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Failed to parse template
>>> iptables/iptables.erb: Class httpd has not been evaluated so its
>>> variables cannot be referenced at
>>> /etc/puppet/modules/iptables/manifests/init.pp:11 on node node03.pixie
>>> warning: Not using cache on failed catalog
>>>
>>>
>>> To my mind, that should be a warning, not an error.
>>>
>>> Is there any 'guard' I can put in my template to stop this blowing up?
>>>
>>> I did try:
>>>
>>> <% if has_variable?('httpd') && has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %>
>>>
>>> but the first clause is always false, even on nodes that 'include httpd'.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry this has been a bit longwinded, but I'm a bit stumped here.
>>> Thanks in advance for
>>> any tips.
>>>
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[Puppet Users] Re: Any way to stop has_variable? throwing errors?

2009-06-11 Thread Dick Davies

I've raised http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2336
against this.

To my mind,  has_variable?('panda::blood') returning false makes
more sense than throwing a parse error :)

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Dick
Davies wrote:
> Hi Trevor, thanks for the idea.
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Trevor Vaughan wrote:
>
>> Someone might give you a better answer, but try:
>>
>> <% if tags.index('httpd') && has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %>
>>
>> This *may not* work due to file parsing order, but I *think* that it will.
>
> I did too, but it doesn't :(
>
> The only reason I tried variables is because tags aren't visible
> (due to scoping?).
>
> It seems you can't see tags (autotags or tags set explicitly with
> tag('httpd') defined in
> classes your class includes.
>
> This is a real problem from where I'm sat; it does make me wonder what
> tags are actually
> useful for.
>
> I suppose I could define the tag in the node, but that seems pretty
> redundant since I'm
> also including the 'httpd' class.
>
>
>
>
>
>> Trevor
>>
>> Dick Davies wrote:
>>> I'm using a primitive template to build my iptables rulesets.
>>> It's all in a branch on my github repo at
>>>
>>> http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/tree/templated-iptables
>>>
>>> template that looks like:
>>>
>>> <% if has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %>
>>> -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j 
>>> ACCEPT
>>> <% end -%>
>>>
>>> (see 
>>> http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/iptables/templates/iptables.erb
>>> )
>>>
>>> i then set a variable in the httpd module like this:
>>>
>>> class httpd {
>>>   $open_firewall = 'on'
>>>   # rest of httpd class def.
>>> }
>>>
>>> [ 
>>> http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/httpd/manifests/init.pp
>>> ]
>>>
>>> The idea being that if a node has 'include httpd', then when it runs
>>> 'include iptables'
>>> it'll open the right port.
>>>
>>> This works fine for classes that include httpd. The trouble is that i
>>> get this error on
>>> nodes that don't :
>>>
>>> [r...@node03 ~]# puppetd -tv
>>> info: Retrieving plugins
>>> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Failed to parse template
>>> iptables/iptables.erb: Class httpd has not been evaluated so its
>>> variables cannot be referenced at
>>> /etc/puppet/modules/iptables/manifests/init.pp:11 on node node03.pixie
>>> warning: Not using cache on failed catalog
>>>
>>>
>>> To my mind, that should be a warning, not an error.
>>>
>>> Is there any 'guard' I can put in my template to stop this blowing up?
>>>
>>> I did try:
>>>
>>> <% if has_variable?('httpd') && has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %>
>>>
>>> but the first clause is always false, even on nodes that 'include httpd'.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry this has been a bit longwinded, but I'm a bit stumped here.
>>> Thanks in advance for
>>> any tips.
>>>
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[Puppet Users] Re: Any way to stop has_variable? throwing errors?

2009-06-11 Thread Dick Davies

Hi Trevor, thanks for the idea.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Trevor Vaughan wrote:

> Someone might give you a better answer, but try:
>
> <% if tags.index('httpd') && has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %>
>
> This *may not* work due to file parsing order, but I *think* that it will.

I did too, but it doesn't :(

The only reason I tried variables is because tags aren't visible
(due to scoping?).

It seems you can't see tags (autotags or tags set explicitly with
tag('httpd') defined in
classes your class includes.

This is a real problem from where I'm sat; it does make me wonder what
tags are actually
useful for.

I suppose I could define the tag in the node, but that seems pretty
redundant since I'm
also including the 'httpd' class.





> Trevor
>
> Dick Davies wrote:
>> I'm using a primitive template to build my iptables rulesets.
>> It's all in a branch on my github repo at
>>
>> http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/tree/templated-iptables
>>
>> template that looks like:
>>
>> <% if has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %>
>> -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j 
>> ACCEPT
>> <% end -%>
>>
>> (see 
>> http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/iptables/templates/iptables.erb
>> )
>>
>> i then set a variable in the httpd module like this:
>>
>> class httpd {
>>   $open_firewall = 'on'
>>   # rest of httpd class def.
>> }
>>
>> [ 
>> http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/httpd/manifests/init.pp
>> ]
>>
>> The idea being that if a node has 'include httpd', then when it runs
>> 'include iptables'
>> it'll open the right port.
>>
>> This works fine for classes that include httpd. The trouble is that i
>> get this error on
>> nodes that don't :
>>
>> [r...@node03 ~]# puppetd -tv
>> info: Retrieving plugins
>> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Failed to parse template
>> iptables/iptables.erb: Class httpd has not been evaluated so its
>> variables cannot be referenced at
>> /etc/puppet/modules/iptables/manifests/init.pp:11 on node node03.pixie
>> warning: Not using cache on failed catalog
>>
>>
>> To my mind, that should be a warning, not an error.
>>
>> Is there any 'guard' I can put in my template to stop this blowing up?
>>
>> I did try:
>>
>> <% if has_variable?('httpd') && has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %>
>>
>> but the first clause is always false, even on nodes that 'include httpd'.
>>
>>
>> Sorry this has been a bit longwinded, but I'm a bit stumped here.
>> Thanks in advance for
>> any tips.
>>
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[Puppet Users] Re: Multiple version of the same package

2009-06-11 Thread Trevor Hemsley

Aurelien Degremont wrote:
> Hello
>
> I would like to install different versions of the same package with Puppet.
>
> The packaging of those package is totally compatible and authorize to 
> have both installed in the meantime.
>
> # rpm -i foo-1.1 foo-2.3
> works very well.
>
> How declare this with Puppet?
> I only found this workaround for the moment:
>
> package {
> "foo-1":
>name   => "foo-1.1",
>ensure => "1.1-25";
> "foo-2":
>name   => "foo-2.3",
>ensure => "2.3-1";
> }
>
> Is there a better way
http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/1720

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[Puppet Users] Multiple version of the same package

2009-06-11 Thread Aurelien Degremont

Hello

I would like to install different versions of the same package with Puppet.

The packaging of those package is totally compatible and authorize to 
have both installed in the meantime.

# rpm -i foo-1.1 foo-2.3
works very well.

How declare this with Puppet?
I only found this workaround for the moment:

package {
"foo-1":
   name   => "foo-1.1",
   ensure => "1.1-25";
"foo-2":
   name   => "foo-2.3",
   ensure => "2.3-1";
}

Is there a better way?


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[Puppet Users] Re: keeping some code out of the repo

2009-06-11 Thread David Schmitt

Dan Bode wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It seems like one of the barriers to the puppet production rollout that 
> I am working towards will be user adoption. For this purpose, I want to 
> manage all common tasks with UIs that autogenerate the puppet code, so 
> that the admins only have to go through the full build process for 
> custom code changes and not routine processes.

>   manifests/managed-server.pp (node group definitions will be an 
> autogenerated file)
> users uses scripts (maybe a GUI later) to add hosts to a group, remove 
> hosts, move hosts, also used by the kickstart scripts to add hosts after 
> installation

Use http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ExternalNodes for that. 
That way you can add/remove classes and set variables for nodes by 
letting puppet call out to a script.

> To do this correctly, I need to use some of the Puppet core API for 
> parsing files, maybe a verfiy function or create fucntion. Can someone 
> point me to a good starting place for these fucntions? Also what is the 
> expectation for backwards compatibility when using the API internals 
> (very low, I assume??) Most of the functionality will just be config 
> files in the files dir for a module that are loaded at run time.

While I haven't actually implemented something like this, I've made two 
designs how I think this could be implemented:

   1) storeconfigs based

This is pretty straight forward. First you need to define what resource 
you want to manage externally:

| define external::something($param1, $param2) {
| # ...
| }

Then activate storedconfigs and work with the created database: Create a 
"fake" host, and add the resources to the "resources" table, adding 
parameters into the "resourcekeep the items with exported='t' and put 
the params into "param_names"/"param_values". The database schema is 
quite straight-forward.

Finally, you can just collect all the resources from the database where 
you need them:

| External::something <<| |>>

See http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ExportedResources for more 
details on the query syntax.



   2) function based

This way is more involved but would provide you with more flexibility. 
The point here is to create puppet functions to query your custom 
database while compiling the configuration for a client:

| define external::something::from_db() {
| $real_name = name_from_db($name)
| $param1 = param1_from_db($name)
| $param2 = param2_from_db($name)
| external::something {
| $real_name:
| param1 => $param1,
| param2 => $param2;
| }
| }

And use it like that:

| external::something::from_db { list_from_db(): }

Where list_from_db() returns an array of primary keys, and 
name_from_db() and param?_from_db() return the name and the values 
respectivly for a certain primary key.



   3) Conclusion

Both of the methods avoid touching internal APIs of puppet and thus 
should be quite stable across releases.




Regards, DavidS














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