Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet install decency issues
To be clear, I do not think that rbenv or rvm are Good Ideas(tm). I'm only claiming that there are enough mismanaged ruby code dumps on github that provide useful functionality that cannot be installed on top of system rubies without destroying the rest of the system to make rbenv the lesser evil. Don't get me started on rvm's I'll-replace-some-of-your-shell-builtins-with-dynamically-loaded-code-from-the-internets philosophy. The ruby community has--obviously with good results--chosen development velocity over more conservative systems values. D. On 07.05.2013 23:35, Brian Lalor wrote: I'd love to be proven wrong, but in my experience neither rvm nor rbenv are packaging-friendly. You'll end up compiling code and downloading dependencies from your prod machines. That's a really Bad Idea. -- Brian Lalor bla...@bravo5.org On May 7, 2013, at 3:55 PM, David Schmitt da...@dasz.at wrote: For everything else, use rbenv or rvm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[Puppet Users] Puppet install decency issues
I have run into the same error installing puppet 2.7 and 3.1.0 on centos box. In the end it tries to install 1.8.7 for the 3.1.0 even though I have 1.9.3 already installed I have dumped all sorts of things like rebuiding the yum repo but nothing seems to help I am using the puppetlabs yum repo Error: Package: rubygem-json-1.5.5-1.el6.x86_64 (puppetlabs-deps) Requires: libruby.so.1.8()(64bit) Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-7.el6_2.x86_64 (base) libruby.so.1.8()(64bit) Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-10.el6_4.x86_64 (updates) libruby.so.1.8()(64bit) Error: Package: ruby-shadow-1.4.1-13.el6.x86_64 (epel) Requires: libruby.so.1.8()(64bit) Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-7.el6_2.x86_64 (base) libruby.so.1.8()(64bit) Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-10.el6_4.x86_64 (updates) libruby.so.1.8()(64bit) Error: Package: ruby-augeas-0.4.1-1.el6.x86_64 (epel) Requires: ruby(abi) = 1.8 Installed: ruby-1.9.3p194-1.el6.x86_64 (@chartboost) ruby(abi) = 1.9 Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-7.el6_2.i686 (base) ruby(abi) = 1.8 Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-10.el6_4.i686 (updates) ruby(abi) = 1.8 Error: Package: ruby-shadow-1.4.1-13.el6.x86_64 (epel) Requires: ruby(abi) = 1.8 Installed: ruby-1.9.3p194-1.el6.x86_64 (@chartboost) ruby(abi) = 1.9 Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-7.el6_2.i686 (base) ruby(abi) = 1.8 Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-10.el6_4.i686 (updates) ruby(abi) = 1.8 Error: Package: rubygem-json-1.5.5-1.el6.x86_64 (puppetlabs-deps) Requires: ruby(abi) = 1.8 Installed: ruby-1.9.3p194-1.el6.x86_64 (@chartboost) ruby(abi) = 1.9 Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-7.el6_2.i686 (base) ruby(abi) = 1.8 Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-10.el6_4.i686 (updates) ruby(abi) = 1.8 Error: Package: ruby-augeas-0.4.1-1.el6.x86_64 (epel) Requires: libruby.so.1.8()(64bit) Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-7.el6_2.x86_64 (base) libruby.so.1.8()(64bit) Available: ruby-libs-1.8.7.352-10.el6_4.x' gem list *** LOCAL GEMS *** activemodel (3.2.13) activerecord (3.2.13) activesupport (3.2.13) arel (3.0.2) aureus (1.3.0) bigdecimal (1.1.0) bson (1.8.4) bson_ext (1.8.4) builder (3.0.4) bundler (1.3.4) cgi_multipart_eof_fix (2.5.0) daemons (1.1.9) elif (0.1.0) fastercsv (1.5.5) fastthread (1.0.7) gem_plugin (0.2.3) i18n (0.6.1) io-console (0.3) json (1.7.7, 1.5.5, 1.5.4) memcache-client (1.8.5) minitest (2.5.1) mongo (1.8.4) mongo_ext (0.19.3) multi_json (1.7.3) rake (0.9.2.2) rdoc (3.9.4) scout (5.6.2) tzinfo (0.3.37) ruby -v ruby 1.9.3p194 (2012-04-20 revision 35410) [x86_64-linux] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet install decency issues
On 5/6/2013 5:34 PM, WojonsTech wrote: I have run into the same error installing puppet 2.7 and 3.1.0 on centos box. In the end it tries to install 1.8.7 for the 3.1.0 even though I have 1.9.3 already installed I have dumped all sorts of things like rebuiding the yum repo but nothing seems to help I am using the puppetlabs yum repo The Puppet rpms require Ruby 1.8.7. Ruby 1.9.3 is a completely different ABI which is reflected in the errors you're getting. Ramin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet install decency issues
Yeah... god forbid you actually need to stay up to date with Ruby... On May 7, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Ramin K ramin-l...@badapple.net wrote: On 5/6/2013 5:34 PM, WojonsTech wrote: I have run into the same error installing puppet 2.7 and 3.1.0 on centos box. In the end it tries to install 1.8.7 for the 3.1.0 even though I have 1.9.3 already installed I have dumped all sorts of things like rebuiding the yum repo but nothing seems to help I am using the puppetlabs yum repo The Puppet rpms require Ruby 1.8.7. Ruby 1.9.3 is a completely different ABI which is reflected in the errors you're getting. Ramin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet install decency issues
meh, it's all the same problems and solutions of upgrading your Python version and breaking yum. Ramin On 5/7/2013 10:08 AM, Jerald Sheets wrote: Yeah... god forbid you actually need to stay up to date with Ruby... On May 7, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Ramin K ramin-l...@badapple.net wrote: On 5/6/2013 5:34 PM, WojonsTech wrote: I have run into the same error installing puppet 2.7 and 3.1.0 on centos box. In the end it tries to install 1.8.7 for the 3.1.0 even though I have 1.9.3 already installed I have dumped all sorts of things like rebuiding the yum repo but nothing seems to help I am using the puppetlabs yum repo The Puppet rpms require Ruby 1.8.7. Ruby 1.9.3 is a completely different ABI which is reflected in the errors you're getting. Ramin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet install decency issues
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:08:13 PM UTC-5, Jerald Sheets wrote: Yeah... god forbid you actually need to stay up to date with Ruby... Puppet 3 runs fine on Ruby 1.9. The OP's problem is a matter of how the particular RPMs in question were prepared. On the other hand, not everything that runs on Ruby 1.8 does work correctly on Ruby 1.9. Puppet itself did not always do so. Packaging tools are not unreasonable to be conservative in their assumptions about dependencies. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet install decency issues
On 2013-05-07 19:08, Jerald Sheets wrote: Yeah... god forbid you actually need to stay up to date with Ruby... Use the system ruby only for system applications. Use system applications only with the system ruby. For everything else, use rbenv or rvm. On Debian you might get away with co-installing 1.8 and 1.9 as the package maintainers valiantly fought against ruby's inherent disregard for anything approaching sane packaging, api or abi management or compatibility. Yes, I'm bitter. Regards, David On May 7, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Ramin Kramin-l...@badapple.net wrote: On 5/6/2013 5:34 PM, WojonsTech wrote: I have run into the same error installing puppet 2.7 and 3.1.0 on centos box. In the end it tries to install 1.8.7 for the 3.1.0 even though I have 1.9.3 already installed I have dumped all sorts of things like rebuiding the yum repo but nothing seems to help I am using the puppetlabs yum repo The Puppet rpms require Ruby 1.8.7. Ruby 1.9.3 is a completely different ABI which is reflected in the errors you're getting. Ramin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet install decency issues
On 5/7/2013 12:55 PM, David Schmitt wrote: On 2013-05-07 19:08, Jerald Sheets wrote: Yeah... god forbid you actually need to stay up to date with Ruby... Use the system ruby only for system applications. Use system applications only with the system ruby. For everything else, use rbenv or rvm. On Debian you might get away with co-installing 1.8 and 1.9 as the package maintainers valiantly fought against ruby's inherent disregard for anything approaching sane packaging, api or abi management or compatibility. Yes, I'm bitter. Regards, David I have a few Ubuntu 12.04 servers running Puppet against the Ruby 1.8 libs while Ruby 1.9.3 installed for apps and commandline. I sure there are some corner cases I haven't managed to trigger, but I've had little problem with the setup. For people on RHEL 6, you might want to look at software collections. http://developerblog.redhat.com/2013/01/31/ruby-on-rails-3-2-on-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-with-software-collections/ Ramin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet install decency issues
I'd love to be proven wrong, but in my experience neither rvm nor rbenv are packaging-friendly. You'll end up compiling code and downloading dependencies from your prod machines. That's a really Bad Idea. -- Brian Lalor bla...@bravo5.org On May 7, 2013, at 3:55 PM, David Schmitt da...@dasz.at wrote: For everything else, use rbenv or rvm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
