Re: [Puppet Users] Re: CPAN package provider?
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > I totally agree, but since I can't get rid of cPanel and I don't want > to go to the trouble of building RPMs for just one system I'm kinda > stuck doing it the "wrong" way. You might investigate cpan2rpm. It works smoothly for many CPAN modules. I've only seen it fail for modules that didn't specify an author (it tries to extract that for inclusion in rpm metadata). -- Brian Shore Network Redux http://networkredux.com | @devopsec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Re: [Puppet Users] Re: CPAN package provider?
Assuming cPanel's Perl isn't too "special" you might just grab the CentOS SRPM, tweak the dependencies so it will install, give it a custom version number and rebuild. You would then use Yum's version pinning module to block any patches for that specific package to avoid future issues. I totally understand the "just make it work" idea, but if you do that this system will always be broken. Eventually I find the broken ones come back and bite me... On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:33 AM, jcbollinger > wrote: > > > > On Sep 27, 11:13 am, Aaron Grewell wrote: > >> We're not using CPAN. Modules are installed as RPMs in our environment. > > > > As it should be on an RPM-based distro. > > Yes, I wish it could be so... Unfortunately the one system that I > need this for is running cPanel on a CentOS 5 system. cPanel installs > its own custom Perl (as well as many other packages, including Ruby so > I have to install Puppet and Facter via GEM rather than RPMs). I'm > trying to get munin installed on this system so that I can monitor the > system. Since cPanel installed a custom Perl the CentOS Perl module > RPMs won't install. > > > I strongly recommend installing software only via the system's native > > package manager. If you violate that by installing Perl itself some > > other way (e.g. manually), then anything goes for that Perl > > installation (or Ruby, Python, ...), but if you are using the system's > > Perl then you should use the system's Perl packages. If you need Perl > > modules not available pre-packaged then package them yourself; it's > > not that hard, especially if they are already available from CPAN. > > > > Doing otherwise introduces a significant risk of incompatibilities > > arising and even your Perl modules being mangled, plus it makes > > management more than twice as hard. > > I totally agree, but since I can't get rid of cPanel and I don't want > to go to the trouble of building RPMs for just one system I'm kinda > stuck doing it the "wrong" way. > > -- > Jeff Ollie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Re: [Puppet Users] Re: CPAN package provider?
On Sep 28, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:33 AM, jcbollinger > wrote: >> >> Doing otherwise introduces a significant risk of incompatibilities >> arising and even your Perl modules being mangled, plus it makes >> management more than twice as hard. > > I totally agree, but since I can't get rid of cPanel and I don't want > to go to the trouble of building RPMs for just one system I'm kinda > stuck doing it the "wrong" way. high quality rationalization for such a low bar effort. quite simple to build rpm's from cpan modules - there's consistent methodologies for doing just that. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
Re: [Puppet Users] Re: CPAN package provider?
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:33 AM, jcbollinger wrote: > > On Sep 27, 11:13 am, Aaron Grewell wrote: >> We're not using CPAN. Modules are installed as RPMs in our environment. > > As it should be on an RPM-based distro. Yes, I wish it could be so... Unfortunately the one system that I need this for is running cPanel on a CentOS 5 system. cPanel installs its own custom Perl (as well as many other packages, including Ruby so I have to install Puppet and Facter via GEM rather than RPMs). I'm trying to get munin installed on this system so that I can monitor the system. Since cPanel installed a custom Perl the CentOS Perl module RPMs won't install. > I strongly recommend installing software only via the system's native > package manager. If you violate that by installing Perl itself some > other way (e.g. manually), then anything goes for that Perl > installation (or Ruby, Python, ...), but if you are using the system's > Perl then you should use the system's Perl packages. If you need Perl > modules not available pre-packaged then package them yourself; it's > not that hard, especially if they are already available from CPAN. > > Doing otherwise introduces a significant risk of incompatibilities > arising and even your Perl modules being mangled, plus it makes > management more than twice as hard. I totally agree, but since I can't get rid of cPanel and I don't want to go to the trouble of building RPMs for just one system I'm kinda stuck doing it the "wrong" way. -- Jeff Ollie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
[Puppet Users] Re: CPAN package provider?
On Sep 27, 11:13 am, Aaron Grewell wrote: > We're not using CPAN. Modules are installed as RPMs in our environment. As it should be on an RPM-based distro. I strongly recommend installing software only via the system's native package manager. If you violate that by installing Perl itself some other way (e.g. manually), then anything goes for that Perl installation (or Ruby, Python, ...), but if you are using the system's Perl then you should use the system's Perl packages. If you need Perl modules not available pre-packaged then package them yourself; it's not that hard, especially if they are already available from CPAN. Doing otherwise introduces a significant risk of incompatibilities arising and even your Perl modules being mangled, plus it makes management more than twice as hard. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
[Puppet Users] Re: CPAN package provider?
We are using ActiveState perl so we compile ppms from cpan modules. I created a definition based on this page: http://www.windley.com/archives/2008/10/using_puppet_and_cpan.shtml It works pretty well for us. Ideally, a provider would be better than a definition, but this works in the mean time. On Sep 27, 10:59 am, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > Google searches don't turn up anything very promising in terms of a > Puppet CPAN package provider. What are people using to manage Perl > modules installed through CPAN? > > -- > Jeff Ollie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
