Re: [Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter

2010-05-28 Thread Joe McDonagh

On 05/27/2010 02:51 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:

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Am Do den 27. Mai 2010 um 17:57 schrieb Nigel Kersten:
   

You'll need to be logged in.
 

Ah. Bad. I have no account there and I dislike the idea to create a
account anywhere to just report a bug. I have that many accounts sprayed
around the net that I do not want to manage one more, sorry.
   

That's kind of a crappy approach don't you think?
 

Do you really think so?

   

Have you ever dealt with a bug reporter that accepts anonymous bug reports?
 

Do you know debian? Do you know /usr/bin/reportbug? Do you know RT?
There are many bug tracker out there where reporting by e-mail is the
usual way.

   

It's almost impossible to treat such reports seriously as you're often not
quite sure whether you've fixed the issue or not because you can't get in
contact with the original reporter.
 

With bug reports by e-mail this is normally not anonymous. Also usual
you can get in contact with the reporter.

More over, you do not need to go to any web page, you even need no web
browser. You can write comfortable with your preferred mail reader and
editor.

There are many bugs out there. Sometimes they can be reported by the
distribution bug tracker but if you install software directly or know
that the bug is upstream it is of no use to have a maintainer between.
And if you need to register with your shoe size (attention, I do
exaggerate) often at least I let the bug be and might fix it locally so
the software will not get better. This registration stuff for all is
such a broken concept at all! Also mailing lists is not the best form of
communication but it is ok that far as I can configure it in my mail
reader to sort it in a nice way. (Ever use nntp? This concept is much
better than Foren and mailing lists!)

However, I will not create a user account on this site too. Take the bug
report I gave here or let it be. If you are not interested in the
report, well, that's yours. If you are interested, I stay here or by PM
to answer questions or doing debugging. (And you might notice that I am
not anonymous, I even sign my mails.)

Regards
Klaus
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Regardless of your intentions, etc, this is somewhat insulting IMO to an 
open-source/foss project. It's almost like saying Well I appreciate the 
thousands of lines of code you've given me for free, and the man-hours 
it took to write that code, and the man-hours you've saved me, but I'm 
not willing to give you five minutes to create a log in to your bug 
tracker. Just sayin'. If you really can't be bothered feel free to hop 
on IRC, I will file the bug for you.

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Re: [Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter

2010-05-28 Thread Joe McDonagh
Rather than continue with this sort of semi-argument, I've gone and 
created an issue in redmine, #3909.


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Re: [Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter

2010-05-27 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Do den 27. Mai 2010 um 10:25 schrieb Paul Nasrat:
  However, as I had some problems subscribing this list with my
  non-google-mail I mailed i...@... so they told me how to subscribe here.
  So they should know about the bug.
 That assumption is incorrect,

Hrmpf.

 I don't work for puppet labs and do not receive email from the info@
 address.

Well, yes, but the puppetlab people should receive the bug report.

 You can file a new bug in redmine, as linked from the project info page:
 
 http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/facter/issues

Ah, thanks. I didn't find this link anywhere. And how to create a new
ticket? There is no link to create a new one at all on the page.

 Please file a bug with a reproducer example,  sample failing
 output/messages, etc.

That might be a bit problematic as it is only reproducable on systems
where you have host names like mymachine.private (So private is the
toplevel domain in the local subnet).

Am Do den 27. Mai 2010 um 13:24 schrieb Paul Nasrat:
 Note this is probably a dupe of
 
 http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/3356

Right. This seems to be exact what I stumbled over.

There is a note saying that a patch was sent to the list. I did not
see the patch on that list here. Neither I see it in the repository to
review.

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter

2010-05-27 Thread Paul Nasrat
On 27 May 2010 16:54, Klaus Ethgen
klaus+pup...@ethgen.deklaus%2bpup...@ethgen.de
 wrote:

 Am Do den 27. Mai 2010 um 10:25 schrieb Paul Nasrat:

  I don't work for puppet labs and do not receive email from the info@
  address.

 Well, yes, but the puppetlab people should receive the bug report.


I maintain facter - if it's not in redmine it may get missed.

 You can file a new bug in redmine, as linked from the project info page:
 
  http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/facter/issues

 Ah, thanks. I didn't find this link anywhere. And how to create a new
 ticket? There is no link to create a new one at all on the page.


You'll need to be logged in.


  Note this is probably a dupe of
 
  http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/3356

 Right. This seems to be exact what I stumbled over.

 There is a note saying that a patch was sent to the list. I did not
 see the patch on that list here. Neither I see it in the repository to
 review.


Patches get sent to the devel list - the process is described:

http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Development_Development_Lifecycle

Paul

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Re: [Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter

2010-05-27 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Do den 27. Mai 2010 um 17:05 schrieb Paul Nasrat:
 I maintain facter - if it's not in redmine it may get missed.

Oh well... :-)

  Ah, thanks. I didn't find this link anywhere. And how to create a new
  ticket? There is no link to create a new one at all on the page.
 You'll need to be logged in.

Ah. Bad. I have no account there and I dislike the idea to create a
account anywhere to just report a bug. I have that many accounts sprayed
around the net that I do not want to manage one more, sorry.

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter

2010-05-27 Thread Nigel Kersten
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Klaus Ethgen
klaus+pup...@ethgen.deklaus%2bpup...@ethgen.de
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 Am Do den 27. Mai 2010 um 17:05 schrieb Paul Nasrat:
  I maintain facter - if it's not in redmine it may get missed.

 Oh well... :-)

   Ah, thanks. I didn't find this link anywhere. And how to create a new
   ticket? There is no link to create a new one at all on the page.
  You'll need to be logged in.

 Ah. Bad. I have no account there and I dislike the idea to create a
 account anywhere to just report a bug. I have that many accounts sprayed
 around the net that I do not want to manage one more, sorry.


That's kind of a crappy approach don't you think?

Have you ever dealt with a bug reporter that accepts anonymous bug reports?
It's almost impossible to treat such reports seriously as you're often not
quite sure whether you've fixed the issue or not because you can't get in
contact with the original reporter.





 Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter

2010-05-26 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hello,

Am Mi den 26. Mai 2010 um  2:20 schrieb Joe McDonagh:
[Problem with facter and toplevel domain]
 Did you file a bug?

No, I didn't. I do not find where to do so.

However, as I had some problems subscribing this list with my
non-google-mail I mailed i...@... so they told me how to subscribe here.
So they should know about the bug.

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[Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter

2010-05-25 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hello,

I was stumbling over the fact that I use a (not existing) toplevel
domain in my environment. So I set up the dnsdomainname to print out the
correct domain (without fullstop ('.')). Additional I limited the search
path in resolv.conf to end with a '.'.

That seems to tangle facter. As I read the code it needs a '.' anywhere
in domainname to work and the fallback to parse /etc/resolv.conf cannot
handle trailing '.'. The last is easy to handle by $1.sub(/\.$/, '') but
the first I do not know how to handle correctly for every case (At least
on debian there seems to be '(none)' if it is not defined correctly.)

Could that go into upstream code respective how to fix the first case
proper?

Regards
   Klaus Ethgen
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Re: [Puppet Users] Toplevel domain and facter

2010-05-25 Thread Joe McDonagh
On 05/25/2010 05:29 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I was stumbling over the fact that I use a (not existing) toplevel
 domain in my environment. So I set up the dnsdomainname to print out the
 correct domain (without fullstop ('.')). Additional I limited the search
 path in resolv.conf to end with a '.'.
 
 That seems to tangle facter. As I read the code it needs a '.' anywhere
 in domainname to work and the fallback to parse /etc/resolv.conf cannot
 handle trailing '.'. The last is easy to handle by $1.sub(/\.$/, '') but
 the first I do not know how to handle correctly for every case (At least
 on debian there seems to be '(none)' if it is not defined correctly.)
 
 Could that go into upstream code respective how to fix the first case
 proper?
 
 Regards
Klaus Ethgen

Did you file a bug?
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