Re: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] Migrating python.org to OSL
On 19.03.2013 00:27, Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
>
> On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:23 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>
>> Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
>>> As part of the PyCon sprints I would like to move python.org off dinsdale
>>> to a VM at OSL. Due to the build system being tied to SVN, I'll also
>>> migrate that service on the same VM. Do any SVN repos other than www/ need
>>> to remain available? This would require at least some period of not
>>> changing the website, probably a few hours, but I don't think that would be
>>> a problem. This is mostly a legacy move so I'm not going to clean it up
>>> much, we'll have a new site soon enough.
>>
>> The repos with public interfaces:
>>
>> http://svn.python.org/view/
>>
>> will need to remain available to keep old links in e.g.
>> bug reports working.
>
> Okay, thats just a single repo ("projects") which is the default one. The
> packages repo is also visible but I'm okay with breaking that given how most
> code has been removed in the current trunk and links are rare (thats the old
> home for the PyPI code and related stuffs). Are we okay with that projects
> repo being full read-only?
Looking at the page, there are some checkins which are only
a few months old, so I'm not sure whether those can be
made read-only, e.g. external/ or sandbox/
Releases for older Python versions are still done from SVN,
but those should be rare nowadays.
It's probably better to ask on python-dev or the lists used
by the projects.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] Migrating python.org to OSL
Le mardi 19 mars 2013 à 08:44 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg a écrit :
> On 19.03.2013 00:27, Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:23 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> >
> >> Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> >>> As part of the PyCon sprints I would like to move python.org off dinsdale
> >>> to a VM at OSL. Due to the build system being tied to SVN, I'll also
> >>> migrate that service on the same VM. Do any SVN repos other than www/
> >>> need to remain available? This would require at least some period of not
> >>> changing the website, probably a few hours, but I don't think that would
> >>> be a problem. This is mostly a legacy move so I'm not going to clean it
> >>> up much, we'll have a new site soon enough.
> >>
> >> The repos with public interfaces:
> >>
> >> http://svn.python.org/view/
> >>
> >> will need to remain available to keep old links in e.g.
> >> bug reports working.
> >
> > Okay, thats just a single repo ("projects") which is the default one. The
> > packages repo is also visible but I'm okay with breaking that given how
> > most code has been removed in the current trunk and links are rare (thats
> > the old home for the PyPI code and related stuffs). Are we okay with that
> > projects repo being full read-only?
>
> Looking at the page, there are some checkins which are only
> a few months old, so I'm not sure whether those can be
> made read-only, e.g. external/ or sandbox/
external/ holds snapshots of 3rd-party libs (OpenSSL, etc.) that are
used for e.g. Windows builds and doc builds.
OTOH, "old links in bug reports" don't need SVN to work, they are mapped
onto a conversion Web service in hg.python.org: e.g.
http://hg.python.org/lookup/r12345
Regards
Antoine.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Spam
On 18.03.2013 19:58, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Monday 18 March 2013 19:00:37 Radomir Dopieralski wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> We're getting a fair amount of spam on the Python Wiki. Can someone with >>> administrative privileges check that the textcha feature is enabled and >>> has been given a set of effective questions? >> >> You can see that it is enabled by visiting this link: >> http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount >> >> (make sure you are logged out) >> >> As for the questions, I'm open to suggestions. > > I don't think "How many words are in this question?" is really setting the > bar > very high for spammers. Textcha questions are supposed to retain the context > of the site on which they are placed so that bulk spamming cannot just scrape > the question and serve it up to someone on some other site. This means that > we should be asking Python-related questions, not simple "Are you human?" > questions that ceased to be effective about ten years ago. Reimar is currently running a test on the Jython wiki. He marked "http" as bad content, which results in all edits including that word to get rejected. At least on the Jython wiki, this has apparently stopped the spam pages from getting created: http://wiki.python.org/jython/RecentChanges It's not a permanent solution, though, since it prevents adding links to pages. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Mar 19 2013) >>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ : Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Spam
On 19.03.2013 09:14, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 18.03.2013 19:58, Paul Boddie wrote: >> On Monday 18 March 2013 19:00:37 Radomir Dopieralski wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: Hello, We're getting a fair amount of spam on the Python Wiki. Can someone with administrative privileges check that the textcha feature is enabled and has been given a set of effective questions? >>> >>> You can see that it is enabled by visiting this link: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount >>> >>> (make sure you are logged out) >>> >>> As for the questions, I'm open to suggestions. >> >> I don't think "How many words are in this question?" is really setting the >> bar >> very high for spammers. Textcha questions are supposed to retain the context >> of the site on which they are placed so that bulk spamming cannot just >> scrape >> the question and serve it up to someone on some other site. This means that >> we should be asking Python-related questions, not simple "Are you human?" >> questions that ceased to be effective about ten years ago. > > Reimar is currently running a test on the Jython wiki. He marked > "http" as bad content, which results in all edits including that > word to get rejected. > > At least on the Jython wiki, this has apparently stopped the spam > pages from getting created: > > http://wiki.python.org/jython/RecentChanges > > It's not a permanent solution, though, since it prevents adding > links to pages. I've added a new set of textchas to the Python wiki. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg PSF Vice Chairman ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Spam
On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:30:13 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > I've added a new set of textchas to the Python wiki. Thanks to both of you for configuring the wiki and improving the textcha questions. This makes it a lot easier and more rewarding to keep maintaining the wiki content. Paul ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
