Re: [pydotorg-www] No news appearing on python-announce-list for a month

2013-05-06 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 04.05.2013 20:58, Peter Otten wrote:
 Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 
 * Peter Otten __pete...@web.de:
 What happened? Is this the right place to ask?
 
 Last posting on
 http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-announce-list/2013-April/date.html
 was on the 6th of April, almost a month ago:

 ANN: Hy - Python / Lisp interoperability layer
 Paul Tagliamonte paultag at debian.org
 Sat Apr 6 02:51:38 CEST 2013

 So everything might be allright, but I wonder how you're receiving the
 announcements of there are any.
 
 I'm reading it in a newsreader, via news.gmane.org; I don't think there's a 
 technical problem with my setup.
 
 I wanted to notify you that the list has been unusually quiet to give you a 
 chance to fix what is borked (moderator interface?) -- or confirm slow 
 news.

I can confirm that my emails to the announcement list have
not been delivered. The last one is dated April 30. I also sent
announcements on April 9, and 17.

They were neither rejected, delivered or archived, so I guess
they are still waiting in the moderator queue or there's a problem
with the list delivery.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] No news appearing on python-announce-list for a month

2013-05-06 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Another data point which may help in tracking this down:

We sent an announcement to the python-announce-list this morning
at around 10:00 CEST. I did not receive the email from the list and
the email is not listed in the archive either:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-announce-list/

I double-checked my subscription to the list and delivery is
enabled.

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Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 06 2013)
 Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
 mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...   http://zope.egenix.com/
 mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/

2013-05-06: Released mxODBC 3.2.3 ... http://egenix.com/go45
2013-04-30: Released eGenix PyRun 1.2.0 ...   http://egenix.com/go44

: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::

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On 06.05.2013 08:59, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
 On 04.05.2013 20:58, Peter Otten wrote:
 Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

 * Peter Otten __pete...@web.de:
 What happened? Is this the right place to ask?

 Last posting on
 http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-announce-list/2013-April/date.html
 was on the 6th of April, almost a month ago:

 ANN: Hy - Python / Lisp interoperability layer
 Paul Tagliamonte paultag at debian.org
 Sat Apr 6 02:51:38 CEST 2013

 So everything might be allright, but I wonder how you're receiving the
 announcements of there are any.

 I'm reading it in a newsreader, via news.gmane.org; I don't think there's a 
 technical problem with my setup.

 I wanted to notify you that the list has been unusually quiet to give you a 
 chance to fix what is borked (moderator interface?) -- or confirm slow 
 news.
 
 I can confirm that my emails to the announcement list have
 not been delivered. The last one is dated April 30. I also sent
 announcements on April 9, and 17.
 
 They were neither rejected, delivered or archived, so I guess
 they are still waiting in the moderator queue or there's a problem
 with the list delivery.
 

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Re: [pydotorg-www] No news appearing on python-announce-list for a month

2013-05-06 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com:
 Another data point which may help in tracking this down:
 
 We sent an announcement to the python-announce-list this morning
 at around 10:00 CEST. I did not receive the email from the list and
 the email is not listed in the archive either:
 http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-announce-list/
 
 I double-checked my subscription to the list and delivery is
 enabled.
 

There are several messages on hold, waiting to be delivered/approved.
Oldest IMHO from 6th of April.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] No news appearing on python-announce-list for a month

2013-05-06 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 06.05.2013 11:47, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 * M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com:
 Another data point which may help in tracking this down:

 We sent an announcement to the python-announce-list this morning
 at around 10:00 CEST. I did not receive the email from the list and
 the email is not listed in the archive either:
 http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-announce-list/

 I double-checked my subscription to the list and delivery is
 enabled.

 
 There are several messages on hold, waiting to be delivered/approved.
 Oldest IMHO from 6th of April.

Thanks for checking, so this is not a technical problem, but more
a moderator one. I've pinged the moderators off-list.

If needed, I can help as moderator.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 06 2013)
 Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
 mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...   http://zope.egenix.com/
 mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/

2013-05-06: Released mxODBC 3.2.3 ... http://egenix.com/go45
2013-04-30: Released eGenix PyRun 1.2.0 ...   http://egenix.com/go44

: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
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Re: [pydotorg-www] No news appearing on python-announce-list for a month

2013-05-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 06, 2013, at 11:49 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:

Thanks for checking, so this is not a technical problem, but more
a moderator one. I've pinged the moderators off-list.

Yep, we're adding new moderators now.

Note though, that there *is* a confirmed technical problem with the list.
OpenPGP signed email sent to the list disappears into a black hole.  I don't
remember if it shows up in the moderator queue or not, but it definitely won't
show up on the mailing list or gmane.  I don't know what the problem is, but I
don't think it's in Mailman.

1) More moderators help.

2) Don't sign your announce emails (for now)

-Barry

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Re: [pydotorg-www] No news appearing on python-announce-list for a month

2013-05-06 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org:
 On May 06, 2013, at 11:49 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
 
 Thanks for checking, so this is not a technical problem, but more
 a moderator one. I've pinged the moderators off-list.
 
 Yep, we're adding new moderators now.
 
 Note though, that there *is* a confirmed technical problem with the list.
 OpenPGP signed email sent to the list disappears into a black hole.  I don't
 remember if it shows up in the moderator queue or not, but it definitely won't
 show up on the mailing list or gmane.  I don't know what the problem is, but I
 don't think it's in Mailman.
 
 1) More moderators help.
 
 2) Don't sign your announce emails (for now)

I'll send a signed mail there. Gotta get back home first and do some
shopping.


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[pydotorg-www] [fixed] Re: No news appearing on python-announce-list for a month

2013-05-06 Thread Peter Otten
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:

 On 06.05.2013 11:47, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 * M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com:
 Another data point which may help in tracking this down:

 We sent an announcement to the python-announce-list this morning
 at around 10:00 CEST. I did not receive the email from the list and
 the email is not listed in the archive either:
 http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-announce-list/

 I double-checked my subscription to the list and delivery is
 enabled.

 
 There are several messages on hold, waiting to be delivered/approved.
 Oldest IMHO from 6th of April.
 
 Thanks for checking, so this is not a technical problem, but more
 a moderator one. I've pinged the moderators off-list.
 
 If needed, I can help as moderator.

Thanks to all who helped fixing this.

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Re: [pydotorg-www] No news appearing on python-announce-list for a month

2013-05-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 06, 2013, at 05:12 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

 Note though, that there *is* a confirmed technical problem with the list.
 OpenPGP signed email sent to the list disappears into a black hole.  I
 don't remember if it shows up in the moderator queue or not, but it
 definitely won't show up on the mailing list or gmane.  I don't know what
 the problem is, but I don't think it's in Mailman.
 
 1) More moderators help.
 
 2) Don't sign your announce emails (for now)

I'll send a signed mail there. Gotta get back home first and do some
shopping.

I suspect our NNTP gateway at XS4ALL.  I pinged Thomas about this but never
heard back, so he's CC'd again here.  I think he's the only one who has inside
information about our NNTP gateway.

-Barry


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Re: [pydotorg-www] No news appearing on python-announce-list for a month

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:

 On May 06, 2013, at 05:12 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

  Note though, that there *is* a confirmed technical problem with the
 list.
  OpenPGP signed email sent to the list disappears into a black hole.  I
  don't remember if it shows up in the moderator queue or not, but it
  definitely won't show up on the mailing list or gmane.  I don't know
 what
  the problem is, but I don't think it's in Mailman.
 
  1) More moderators help.
 
  2) Don't sign your announce emails (for now)
 
 I'll send a signed mail there. Gotta get back home first and do some
 shopping.

 I suspect our NNTP gateway at XS4ALL.  I pinged Thomas about this but never
 heard back, so he's CC'd again here.  I think he's the only one who has
 inside
 information about our NNTP gateway.


Sorry, I know nothing about the NNTP gateway at XS4ALL. I'd be surprised if
it'd drop things silently, but who knows. I don't understand how the NNTP
gateway can prevent SMTP messages from getting delivered, though :) I
suggest finding out when and with what message-id the messages are
delivered to nntp.xs4all.nl, and then contacting unixbeh...@xs4all.nl

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