[pydotorg-www] Help with mailing lists?
Sorry if this is the wrong list to write to. You'll see why I'm here in just a minute. I needed some help with some mail lists at mail.python.org: I need a password reminder, but never got one, and I have some questions about creating a new list. The page at http://mail.python.org says, If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact mail...@python.org mailto:mail...@python.org, so I sent my questions there. I got an automated response email that said that no one will answer, and to write to postmas...@python.org. I forwarded my questions there. I got an automated response email in German that said to send requests to postmas...@charite.de. So I forwarded my questions there. I got an automated response email (in German and English!) that said, Thank you for your email. We'll work on email issues right away, all other issues will be ignored. I don't know if my questions are considered email issues or not, so I don't know how long to wait before trying something else. What should I do now? Any ideas who I can contact? Things seem broken on a number of levels. Thanks, :( :( --Ned. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Help with mailing lists?
On 23.12.2014 11:56, Ned Batchelder wrote: Sorry if this is the wrong list to write to. You'll see why I'm here in just a minute. I needed some help with some mail lists at mail.python.org: I need a password reminder, but never got one, and I have some questions about creating a new list. Did you request this via the Mailman interface ? Perhaps it got eaten by a spam filter. Note that some MLs on python.org have the monthly reminders turned off, so for those you need to request the reminder via the Mailman list interface. The page at http://mail.python.org says, If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact mail...@python.org mailto:mail...@python.org, so I sent my questions there. I got an automated response email that said that no one will answer, and to write to postmas...@python.org. I forwarded my questions there. I got an automated response email in German that said to send requests to postmas...@charite.de. So I forwarded my questions there. I got an automated response email (in German and English!) that said, Thank you for your email. We'll work on email issues right away, all other issues will be ignored. I don't know if my questions are considered email issues or not, so I don't know how long to wait before trying something else. What should I do now? Any ideas who I can contact? Things seem broken on a number of levels. postmas...@python.org should be able to help you with ML issues. That said, it's holiday season now, so don't you can't really expect the usual prompt reaction times of our postmasters :-) -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Dec 23 2014) Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC Plone/Zope Database Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ 2014-12-11: Released mxODBC Plone/Zope DA 2.2.0 http://egenix.com/go67 : Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Help with mailing lists?
CC'ing in postmaster. On Dec 23, 2014, at 05:56 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: I needed some help with some mail lists at mail.python.org: I need a password reminder, but never got one, and I have some questions about creating a new list. I just tried it with the 'playground' mailing list and it worked just fine. I got the password reminder within minutes. FWIW, the playground list is just that, a dummy list that the postmasters can use to experiment with the live Mailman system on mpo. I'm not sure why you haven't gotten you password reminder. The page at http://mail.python.org says, If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact mail...@python.org mailto:mail...@python.org, so I sent my questions there. That's pretty much a canned listinfo overview page. We could hack that to explicitly name postmas...@python.org. mail...@python.org is the site list, and until just now, only myself and Ralf were members of that list, and my delivery is disabled. I just added postmas...@python.org to that mailing list, so it should forward everything to the postmasters. I got an automated response email that said that no one will answer, and to write to postmas...@python.org. I forwarded my questions there. Yep, that's Mailman's replybot. I got an automated response email in German that said to send requests to postmas...@charite.de. So I forwarded my questions there. Yep, that's probably Ralf's replybot. ;) I got an automated response email (in German and English!) that said, Thank you for your email. We'll work on email issues right away, all other issues will be ignored. I don't know if my questions are considered email issues or not, so I don't know how long to wait before trying something else. What should I do now? Any ideas who I can contact? Things seem broken on a number of levels. postmas...@python.org is the right place ultimately for all things email for python.org. I'm not sure whether the postmasters read pydotorg-www. As MAL points out, it's the typical slow holiday season, so response may be delayed. Cheers, -Barry ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] web frameworks page feedback
On 12/20/2014 09:14 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: I noticed a recent change to the https://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks that moved Grok (I framework I helped found) down from the popular frameworks. I agree with that move; it's not been popular for a while now and was never as popular as, say, Pyramid or Flask are now. I was the one responsible for that change. * Frameworks that I consider are big and get a lot of attention such as Flask and Pyramid do not come under any popular heading. But they are very popular, and right now they're ranked with obscure things like BlueBream or Aquarium. I don't think this reflects the state of the Python community. If you're going to do popularity stuff at all, why not list some of the popular non-full stack frameworks? +1. I have mentioned before this here in this mailing list. I'll create a popular subsection for the non-full-stack frameworks. * Why are some frameworks in a table format (which gives them more attention, I think) and some not? I can see doing so for popular frameworks, but why do it for some other full stack frameworks and some not? +1. imho everything could be in table format, just need someone to do it. Also, I'd keep only summary and last version number/release date and a link to frameworks features comparison in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_frameworks#Python_2 . imho comparing some well-defined criteria such as activity/size of open source community and list of features is the best way to compare web frameworks, otherwise the discussion is subjective. * A framework like wheezy.web is considered full stack and is highlighted in a table as such. I appreciate wheezy.web, but I really think this is unfair to frameworks like Pyramid and Flask, which offer more or less the same facilities. You can argue they offer some of them through extensions, but so does wheezy.web. If you're going to say wheezy.web is full stack, then so are Pyramid and Flask. I agree wheezy.web should be moved to non-full-stack framework section. imho a full-stack framework should have: - WSGI support - HTTP request parsing - HTTP response generation helpers - form, cookies and sessions handling - URL routing - separation of UI and application logic code (usually MVC support) - templating - caching - persistent data access - authentication and authorization - security helpers - internationalization - management of static files (static from the perspective of the server). Most web frameworks rely on an external popular ORM to handle persistent data access (most often SQLAlchemy) and thus are not full-stack frameworks. imho we should either (1) have a clear definition of what a full-stack framework is in the wiki and reorganize the lists to follow that or (2) remove the distinction between full-stack and non-full-stack frameworks and simply point to a features comparison list. Regards, Alan Evangelista ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
Re: [pydotorg-www] Help with mailing lists?
Ned, sorry for the reply in German. That was Ralf's personal business mail responder. Could you repeat your questions and I will see to anwer them? Thanks p@rick * Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com: On 12/23/14 6:55 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 23.12.2014 11:56, Ned Batchelder wrote: Sorry if this is the wrong list to write to. You'll see why I'm here in just a minute. I needed some help with some mail lists at mail.python.org: I need a password reminder, but never got one, and I have some questions about creating a new list. Did you request this via the Mailman interface ? Perhaps it got eaten by a spam filter. Note that some MLs on python.org have the monthly reminders turned off, so for those you need to request the reminder via the Mailman list interface. Yes, I requested it with the button on the page. Nothing in the gmail spam filter. The page at http://mail.python.org says, If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact mail...@python.org mailto:mail...@python.org, so I sent my questions there. I got an automated response email that said that no one will answer, and to write to postmas...@python.org. I forwarded my questions there. I got an automated response email in German that said to send requests to postmas...@charite.de. So I forwarded my questions there. I got an automated response email (in German and English!) that said, Thank you for your email. We'll work on email issues right away, all other issues will be ignored. I don't know if my questions are considered email issues or not, so I don't know how long to wait before trying something else. What should I do now? Any ideas who I can contact? Things seem broken on a number of levels. postmas...@python.org should be able to help you with ML issues. As I mentioned above, I sent an email to postmas...@python.org, and got a German reply that led me down a fruitless path. That said, it's holiday season now, so don't you can't really expect the usual prompt reaction times of our postmasters :-) :-( The automated responses that are the email equivalent of /dev/null are very prompt! :-( --Ned. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
[pydotorg-www] Wiki editing permissions
Hi, I would like to be added to the EditorsGroup on https://wiki.python.org/moin/. My username is ScottZeid and I would like to change the URL for an application of mine (AppBackup) that is listed on https://wiki.python.org/moin/Applications#Mobile_Applications. Thanks, Scott Zeid ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
