Re: [pydotorg-www] Addition to EditorsGroup.

[Brian Curtin]

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:54 PM, M.-A. Lemburg  wrote:
> On 30.04.2015 23:49, Roberto Rosario wrote:
>> Hi, I would like to be added to the EditorsGroup to be able to enter my PSF
>> board candidate entry. Thanks,
>
> You are a bit late :-)
>
> We do need your wiki account name to add you to the group for this.

Candidates can be added through May 1, so still over a day left.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Add to editors group

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:35 AM, Lynn Root  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to edit the wiki - specifically for the Board Member nominations.
> My username is LynnRoot.

I'm in the same boat: brian.curtin is my name there
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Willison award page is missing Anna

[Brian Curtin]

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Ned Batchelder  wrote:
> This page: https://www.python.org/community/awards/frank-willison/ doesn't
> mention Anna Ravenscroft, who apparently won in 2013:
> http://www.josetteorama.com/the-2013-frank-willison-memorial-award/
>
> I tried to login, but have no account, and there's no sign-up page? Sorry to
> be so confused.

Thanks for the head's up. I also need to get the other award pages up
to date with the ones we just gave out, and will cover it tomorrow.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] broken link and button

[Brian Curtin]

On Feb 24, 2014 3:04 PM, "M.-A. Lemburg"  wrote:
>
> On 24.02.2014 22:00, Brian Curtin wrote:
> > On Feb 24, 2014 2:55 PM, "David Goodger"  wrote:
> >> Yes, perhaps replacing http://www.python.org/#feedback_form (at the
> >> bottom of every page on the new site).
> >>
> >> BTW, where do submissions via that form go?
> >
> > They're in the "feedbacks" app within the Django Admin for now.
>
> Oh dear... the table for that app has 16107 entries :-(
>
> http://www.python.org/admin/feedbacks/feedback/

Yep, I mentioned before launch that there were about 6,000 spam entries and
that clearly goy worse. I'm not sure how we're going to pull out any of the
legitimate ones.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] broken link and button

[Brian Curtin]

On Feb 24, 2014 2:55 PM, "David Goodger"  wrote:
>
> On 24 February 2014 14:09, Ralf Gommers  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 6:03 PM, M.-A. Lemburg  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 24.02.2014 17:29, Michael Foord wrote:
> >> > Hey Ralf,
> >> >
> >> > I've forwarded this to the redesign team. I'm not yet sure if anyone
on
> >> > this list is able to do site updates!
> >>
> >> Fixed.
> >>
> >> If possible, please submit such change requests via the Github tracker
at:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues
> >
> >
> > Thanks Marc-Andre. I'll do that next time. You may want to link that
tracker
> > somewhere on python.org if that's where you prefer to get issue reports
>
> Yes, perhaps replacing http://www.python.org/#feedback_form (at the
> bottom of every page on the new site).
>
> BTW, where do submissions via that form go?

They're in the "feedbacks" app within the Django Admin for now.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Help with porting content: need some basic documentation

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:21 PM, M.-A. Lemburg  wrote:
> Several pages on the new website are lacking images and the menus
> don't like to all the ported pages.
>
> Could someone please provide information on:
>
>  * where to place images for pages
>
>  * how to adjust the menus to include the ported, but not yet
>linked pages ?

I asked about the images, so I'm not sure myself.

As for adjusting menus, they're set within the sitetree on the admin.
I guess you need to be careful, though, because some menus link
directly to pages, and some are apparently "apps". I dont really know
anything about Django, but I screwed up the success stories by not
knowing this difference...or something like that.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Hardcore is not only porn

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:18 AM, anatoly techtonik  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Paul Boddie  wrote:
>> On Tuesday 19. November 2013 15.58.15 M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> On 19.11.2013 15:38, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:29 AM, M.-A. Lemburg  wrote:
>>> >> On 19.11.2013 14:46, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>>> >>> wiki.python.org doesn't allow the word "hardcore" in contents,
>>> >>> which is a bad filter choice, because, well, some talks about
>>> >>> Python internals are hardcore for the most users out there.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore
>>> >>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hardcore
>>> >>
>>> >> I've made the filter more selective.
>>
>> Of course, the need to use "hardcore" frequently in a reference like the
>> Python Wiki is somewhat debatable. :-)
>
> Well, I guess who writes the most - wins. =) There is still a long way to go
> before Python Wiki can experience Wikipedia-like edit wars.
>
>> what occurs when no such measures are in place. I would argue that anti-spam
>> measures need to be a bit more varied these days, though, and I've written
>> about that on this list in the recent past, I believe.
>
> MoinMoin is not interesting. Everybody is using MediaWiki. Is there
> anything else, more advanced on the horizon?

I don't know what makes MoinMoin "not interesting", and your second
sentence is surely false. If you're suggesting a move away from
MoinMoin, you have a lot of work to do.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Bugs Login Broken Under Chrome

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Dustin Oprea  wrote:
> When I try to log-in on bugs.python.org using Chrome (28), the browser does
> a post, and presents a "broken form: multiple @action values submitted"
> banner. No other content shows.
>
> It works fine under Firefox. I'd submit a bug, but the normal Python bug
> tracker doesn't seem to have a website-related category. Is there a place
> that I can report the bug?

The "meta" tracker is located at
http://psf.upfronthosting.co.za/roundup/meta/ -- this is where you'd
report it.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Blog post for pycon.blogspot.com

[Brian Curtin]

Posted: 
http://pycon.blogspot.com/2013/07/kiwi-pycon-2013-has-made-its-way-to.html

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Michael Foord  wrote:
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Tim Knapp 
> Subject: Blog post for pycon.blogspot.com
> Date: 29 July 2013 12:38:00 EEST
> To: webmas...@python.org
>
> Hello,
>
> Could you please include a blog post on pycon.blogspot.com for Kiwi PyCon
> 2013 as follows:
>
> """
> Kiwi PyCon 2013 has made its way to Auckland!
>
> This year we're featuring 2 keynotes: Michael Foord, the father of mock and
> the testing libraries in Python, as well as Jessica McKellar, one of the
> people behind the largest Python User Group in the world, Boston Python, as
> well as a proponent of using Python to teach computer programming to
> beginner programmers.
>
> As with other years, there will also be an excellent line up of talks and
> the schedule is now available online to be perused [1]. This year, we're
> also featuring for the first time some exciting new events, such as a full
> day of tutorials on the Friday prior to the conference, as well as a
> Recruitment Track, where companies seeking Python developers and people
> looking for Python-related work can meetup.
>
> The event is going to be held at the Sir Paul Reeves Building [2] at
> Auckland University of Technology, in the Wellesley Street campus. For
> further information and to register, please go to http://nz.pycon.org.
>
> [1] http://nz.pycon.org/schedule/talks/
> [2] http://nz.pycon.org/venue/
> """
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/
>
> May you do good and not evil
> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
> -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html
>
>
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Python homepage news section still shows Python at risk

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Michael Foord  wrote:
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Remco Wendt 
> Subject: Python homepage news section still shows Python at risk
> Date: 22 March 2013 12:46:40 GMT
> To: webmas...@python.org
>
> Hello,
>
> The current python homepage still makes it look like the UK Trademark issue
> is current, but fortunately it has been resolved:
> http://pyfound.blogspot.nl/2013/03/python-software-foundation-reaches.html
> so it would be nice to update the homepage accordingly. I presented the call
> to action during the Dutch Python Meetup yesterday only to find out through
> the audience that the issue was resolved :P

Updated
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Re: [pydotorg-www] News Item request

[Brian Curtin]

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:17 PM, M.-A. Lemburg  wrote:
> On 15.02.2013 01:11, Aahz wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> On 14.02.2013 21:29, Brian Curtin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Text like "The Python Software Foundation is requesting the assistance
>>>> of anyone in the community who works in a company that has a presence
>>>> in an EU Community Member State. The Python trademark is at risk, more
>>>> details available at
>>>> http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2013/02/python-trademark-at-risk-in-europe-we.html";
>>>> would be great.
>>>
>>> Done.
>>
>> You beat me by two minutes.  ;-)  (SVN conflict!)
>
> :-)

Thanks to the both of you for taking care of it!
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[pydotorg-www] News Item request

[Brian Curtin]

If anyone has a few free minutes, would you be able to add a news item
on the front page pointing to
http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2013/02/python-trademark-at-risk-in-europe-we.html?

I would do it myself but I don't currently have an operational
checkout and won't have time to get to it until tomorrow.

Text like "The Python Software Foundation is requesting the assistance
of anyone in the community who works in a company that has a presence
in an EU Community Member State. The Python trademark is at risk, more
details available at
http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2013/02/python-trademark-at-risk-in-europe-we.html";
would be great.
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[pydotorg-www] Fwd: URGENT: Removal of Information for FUNERALCALL

[Brian Curtin]

Can anyone who deals with the job board take a look at this? Amberly
from Funeral Call needs a post removed...


-- Forwarded message --
From: Amberly Odom 
Date: Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:54 AM
Subject: URGENT: Removal of Information for FUNERALCALL
To: jnol...@python.org, spambayes-...@python.org, br...@python.org,
gu...@python.org


Hello,

I just came across a job opening that you have posted for our company.
We have not given anyone information to post a job and need this to be
removed immediately.This posting must be removed within 48 hours.
http://www.python.org/community/jobs/

--
Amberly Odom
Director of Marketing
Funeral Call

p.770-830-6000
e. ambe...@funeralcall.com
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Re: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Members] [Infrastructure] Wiki news?

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Paul Boddie  wrote:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 18.01.2013 19:59, Neil Schemenauer wrote:
>> > [PSF list removed]
>> >
>> > On 2013-01-18, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> >> In other words, the backdoor will likely have been open for
>> >> several months.
>> >
>> > My thanks to all the work put in by volunteers.  Has there been any
>> > consideration given to using different wiki software?  It's my
>> > impression that MoinMoin has a quite poor record with regard to
>> > security:
>> >
>> > http://moinmo.in/SecurityFixes
>> >
>> > The abundance of past holes doesn't predict future ones but in
>> > general there seems to be a correlation.
>>
>> I think that's a misinterpretation. MoinMoin is used in a *lot*
>> of places and so finding vulnerabilities becomes more attractive
>> than for other similar software.
>
> Agreed. Just because the MoinMoin project has openly published advisories (and
> fixed vulnerabilities) doesn't mean that it has a "poor record", or at least
> a record that is poorer than other software. I happen to be subscribed to
> notifications for MediaWiki, for example, and advisories are regularly
> published exhorting users to upgrade in order to fix various issues.
>
> We could spend substantial effort migrating to something else without any
> guarantee of improved security and with substantial inconvenience incurred.
> As I noted on a rather tiresome thread on the PSF list, throwing everything
> out in order to do things some other, supposedly "better" way is an
> unfortunate Python community tendency that we shouldn't indulge. I also think
> that using people's software and then abandoning it (and them) when we find
> something we don't like about it, instead of offering to improve it, is
> counterproductive if not a betrayal of those people.

Speaking of improving it: on Wednesday, the PSF approved a grant to
expedite development efforts that the MoinMoin team is putting in to
using passlib for their password handling.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PyConZA addition to PyCon list

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Graeme Glass  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Please could you add http://za.pycon.org/ (PyCon ZA) to the workshops
> page (http://www.python.org/community/workshops/)

Added!
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Re: [pydotorg-www] pyArkansas 2012, Conway, Arkansas, Oct 27th added to python.org and confernces list

[Brian Curtin]

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Chad Cooper  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The 5th annual pyArkansas conference will be held on October 27, 2012 in
> Conway, Arkansas.
>
> http://www.pyarkansas.org/
>
> Could we please get this added to the front page of python.org (the news
> listing there) and to the conferences list at
> http://www.python.org/community/workshops/?

Added to both pages.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] [OFFTOPIC] New at group

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Michael Foord  wrote:
>
> On 28 Jul 2012, at 20:57, Brian Curtin  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Oscar Campos
>>  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> My name is Oscar Campos and I am new in the group.
>>>
>>> I already cloned the web SVN repository and got my local copy running.
>>>
>>> I am ready to start with tasks and get the job done. Is there an pending
>>> tasks?
>>
>> None that I'm aware of. The website is not under any active
>> development and only gets occasional changes for news items here and
>> there.
>
> Outstanding issues I'm aware of:
>
> 1)
>
> I noticed that the links for minutes for 2012 are wrongly captured under
> 2011.
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/
>
> Kindly fix this.

Fixed.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] [OFFTOPIC] New at group

[Brian Curtin]

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Oscar Campos
 wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> My name is Oscar Campos and I am new in the group.
>
> I already cloned the web SVN repository and got my local copy running.
>
> I am ready to start with tasks and get the job done. Is there an pending
> tasks?

None that I'm aware of. The website is not under any active
development and only gets occasional changes for news items here and
there.

We're currently evaluating proposals to redo the entire site, so I
wouldn't advise to take on or plan any major changes.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] New PSF pending sponsor member: Hood Media GmbH - Please add to Website

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg team:
>
> Could you please add the new pending PSF sponsor member logo for Globo.com,
>
> to the sponsor web page http://www.python.org/psf/.
>
> Their company logo is attached to this email also a link to their company
> website
> is www.globo.com.

Globo is now added: http://python.org/psf/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] New PSF pending sponsor member: Hood Media GmbH - Please add to Website

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:

> Hi Pydotorg team:
>
> Could you please add the new pending PSF sponsor member logo for Hood
> Media GmbH,
> to the sponsor web page http://www.python.org/psf/.
>
> Their company logo is attached to this email also a link to their company
> website
> is www.hood.de.


Hood is now listed on http://www.python.org/psf/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- May 2012 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> Also, could you please add the June 2012 board meeting minutes online?

This is complete: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2012-06-18/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- May 2012 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg :
>
> I hope to help out with posting  items like the board meeting minutes online
> in the
> future, however, due to a current backlog in my work schedule :). Today is
> my first day back from a week at the EuroPython Conference.
>
> So, could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> May 2012.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks a whole bunch,
> Pat

This is complete: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2012-05-21/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- May 2012 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Ankur Kasliwal
 wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I had recently joined the group and so please let me know how can I be
> helpful to the group. Thank you

Pat is requesting that PSF Board minutes be posted online, which has
to be done by someone with SVN access to the website repository. I
typically take care of this particular task as it overlays with my
role as Communications officer for the board, so there's nothing here
to contribute.

Feel free in another thread to introduce yourself, your skills, your
interests, and maybe someone will respond with a place you could
contribute to.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- May 2012 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> Also, could you please add the June 2012 board meeting minutes online?

Pat - thanks, I'll get May and June minutes up within the next day.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Chris Angelico  wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:07 PM, anatoly techtonik  
> wrote:
>> An exercise in Pike? A first look at the language - C with automatic
>> memory management - I don't know why. =) Speaking about web server,
>> the main goal looks like an abillity to update site in transaction, to
>> continue serving old content while files on disk are updated, but..
>> that's impossible without file system manipulation if server doesn't
>> keep all files in memory.
>
> This probably belongs off this list

It does.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- April 2012 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Sounds like a great idea, Brian, generally speaking, the timing, however,
> ... I will
> speak with you offlist (as suggested).

Since the timing doesn't work out for now, I went ahead and updated
the page at http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2012-04-30/

I also brought http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/ up to date.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- April 2012 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> April 2012.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat

Hi Pat,

This time instead of me posting them, I'm working on the finishing
touches of documentation to get you setup to be able to make these
postings yourself. I'll contact you off-list so we can setup a time to
go through it.

Brian
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Re: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] Board Resolutions from the March 2012 Board Meeting - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Brian:
>
> As usual, the webpage update looks good.
>
> However, I need your help with correcting 1 minor item on the webpage.
> I was hoping, if you could make a slight adjustment on the webpage (it
> slipped
> passed me when I was creating the draft sent for posting).
>
> I noticed that the very first resolution on the webpage is an "email"
> vote which took place on February 29, 2012, between the February &
> March 2012 board meetings.
>
> RESOLVED, that the Board of Directors recommend Lincoln Loop to the
> membership, as a future sponsor member of the PSF.
>
> Approved 8-0-0 by email vote, 29 February 2012
>
> Is it possible to place the above resolution after the four, IRC vote, 26
> March 2012
> resolutions?

Good eye. The page is now updated with the correct order.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Frank Willison Award Recipient for 2011 - Georg Brandl

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> To:  pydotorg:
>
> Could you please add the bio information to the link below for the 2011
> Frank Willison Award
> recipient Georg Brandl:
>
> http://www.python.org/community/awards/frank-willison/

Updated. I waited a while to see if Georg wanted a picture to be
included but never heard back. I can always add it later, though.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] Board Resolutions from the March 2012 Board Meeting - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi pydotorg team:
>
>
>
> Could you please add the following board resolutions from
>
> the March 2012 board meetings to this web page:
>
>
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/

The resolutions have been added:
http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- March 2012 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> March 2012.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.

Updated: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2012-03-26/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] 2nd Request 2012 Officers, Directors, and Members of the PSF – Please Post

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Luciano:
>
> Please see the request already placed with the pydotorg team to
> have the "membership roster" webpage updated.
>
> Please see email below.
>
> However, please feel free to contact the pydotorg team directly.
>
> Thank-you for offering the extra hand!!

Officers updated, directors updated (and alphabetized like the other
lists), Lincoln Loop added, all new members added in.

http://www.python.org/psf/members/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF Contributor form

[Brian Curtin]

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 18:02, Mats Wichmann  wrote:
>
> As an employee of a "large corporation", I'll observe that the problem
> with contributor forms is once you have to sign one, the lawyer has to
> get involved.  Once the lawyer has to get involved, life WILL get
> complicated.  Of any 32 corporations, 27 will have a lawyer who wants to
> make a small-to-large change, just to suit their particular way of doing
> things.  Then the PSF will have to have a lawyer decide whether those
> changes are okay for this one-off deal (or maybe whether that change
> should go into the generic, in which case you have a new thing that a
> bunch of lawyers have to look at).  I actually have, from years ago, a
> "grandfathered" permission to contribute to Python, from those days when
> I was actually doing website work, as long as I don't contribute any
>  IP, because I asked for that and got it.
> So at the moment it's very simple, but if I had to sign a specific
> contributor agreement, all that good stuff goes away and my business
> unit lawyer gets involved, and I'd probably lose the permission I now
> have.  In my specific case, that is harmless to Python since I don't
> contribute to the code base and now also don't contribute to the
> website, but it's an example: it probably will affect others.  IANAL of
> course, but it seems that implicit agreements often work, and are likely
> to cause less trouble (by implicit, I mean PSF saying "if you
> contribute, understand you're doing so under these terms")

At least one reason why we require explicit agreement (the one I'm
most familiar with) is to keep track of all contributors in the event
that we need to change the licensing terms, or change the license all
together. As far as I know, this is not open for debate -- it's a
requirement for us.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- February 2012 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 14:45, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> February 2012.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat

Here you go: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2012-02-27/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] 2nd Request: Re: Board Resolutions from October through December 2011 Board Meetings - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:39, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg Team:
>
> Could you please post the board meeting resolution listed below. Please see
> the email below.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pydotorg:
>>
>> Board Resolutions from October through December 2011 Board Meetings
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi pydotorg team:
>>
>>
>>
>> Could you please add the following board resolution from the
>>
>> October through December 2011  board meetings to this web page:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/
>>
>>
>>
>> Please see the list of board resolutions to be added below:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> **RESOLVED**, that Mike Müller and Armin Rigo be given Python
>>
>> Community Service Awards for 2011-4th Quarter.
>>
>> Approved, 8-0-0 by IRC vote, 19 December 2011.

Sorry for the delay - this is now completed:
http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- January 2012 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 15:42, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> January 2012.

Posted: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2012-01-16/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Grid for python.org (Was: Website formatting problem)

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:55, anatoly techtonik  wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Michael Foord
>  wrote:
>> "The PSF" is a bunch of individuals, many of whom *are* subscribed to this 
>> list. The process will be public. That doesn't mean that all the minutiae 
>> will all be endlessly discussed, which is the (incorrect) definition of 
>> public that some people use. The call for tenders have not been worked out 
>> yet.
>
> Why PSF can't crowd-source the process?

If you're going to respond, you must read the messages you are
responding to. Everything but the first line of the paragraph you
responded to answers this question. I have even answered your asking
of the same question at least one time before.

> There are many "designers" out there, who can help. Is there a PEP, a FAQ or 
> at least something on it?

No. See the message you responded to but did not read, specifically
the last line.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] New Members to Membership Roster Web Page – Please Add

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 15:04, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please see the email below and add the
> July 2011 new members names to the membership
> roster.
>
> It must have been an oversight for the new members
> names to not been added/posted to the website in
> uly 2011 when the request was originally made.

The list is now up to date: http://www.python.org/psf/members/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- December 2011 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 16:16, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> December 2011.

Here you go: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-12-19/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- November 2011 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 17:38, anatoly techtonik  wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Brian Curtin  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 15:59, anatoly techtonik 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The funny thing to read about planned pydotorg redesign proposal that had
>>> never landed on this list.
>>>
>>> Another PSF communitcation fail. =)
>>
>>
>> You are wrong.
>>
>> The "request for proposals" writing *itself* is what's being proposed, and
>> that, for hundreds of reasons, is being handled internally. When the request
>> for proposals document has been solidified, it will absolutely be circulated
>> and communicated in order to receive proposals to complete the work.
>
>
> Do I understand correctly, there will be only two weeks to gather proposals
> and feedback?

No. The minutes state that there was a two week call for comments
about the draft of the request for proposals.

Further questions/discussion of the minutes should be taken somewhere else.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- November 2011 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 14:06, Pat Campbell  wrote:

> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> November 2011.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat


Posted: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-11-21/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- November 2011 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 15:59, anatoly techtonik wrote:

> The funny thing to read about planned pydotorg redesign proposal that had
> never landed on this list.
>
> Another PSF communitcation fail. =)


You are wrong.

The "request for proposals" writing *itself* is what's being proposed, and
that, for hundreds of reasons, is being handled internally. When the
request for proposals document has been solidified, it will absolutely be
circulated and communicated in order to receive proposals to complete the
work.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- Octover 2011 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 13:35, Pat Campbell  wrote:

> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> October 2011.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat


Posted: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-10-17/
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PyPI is offline

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 13:09, anatoly techtonik  wrote:
> http://www.isup.me/pypi.python.org

Works for me, and that page agrees: "It's just you.
http://pypi.python.org is up."
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Re: [pydotorg-www] 2011 PSF Community Service Award webpage - Please Update

[Brian Curtin]

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:34, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Brian:
>
> Please see the request in the email below.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Pat Campbell  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pydotorg:
>>
>> Could you please update the “Python Software Foundation Community Awards”
>> at http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards/ with the following
>> information?

http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards is now updated.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Recently requested several Items to be posted online

[Brian Curtin]

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 15:13, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg Team:
>
> I have recently requested to have several items posted online and
> the requested items have not been posted.
>
> In the past, most request are usually done within a week of the
> request. Is there some kind of an issue?
>
> I hope everything is okay :).
>
> Please let me know if I need to re-submit the items that are
> in need of replacing the current out-of-date online material.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Pat

I think we're all caught up now. Is there anything I missed?
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Update April 18, 2011 Board Meeting Minutes - Section 10

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 13:20, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg Team:
>
>
>
> Could you please update the April 18, 2011 board meeting minutes?
>
>
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-04-18/

This is now updated.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Contributor Agreement Webpage Update Request – 11/3/11

[Brian Curtin]

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:38, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg:
>
>
>
> Could you please update the contributor agreement webpage
>
> below?
>
>
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/

http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/ is now updated
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF Committees - webpage - please update

[Brian Curtin]

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 20:57, Pat Campbell  wrote:

> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> 1. Could you please replace the following information on the *PSF
> Committees* webpage at http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the
> heading:  “Active Committees, Infrastructure Committee (IC)” from:
> Infrastructure Committee (IC) 
>
> 2. Could you please add the following information to the *PSF 
> Committees*webpage at
> http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the heading:  “Active
> Committees, Outreach & Education Committee (OREC)”:
> Outreach & Education Committee 
> (OREC)
>
> 3. Could you please add the following information to the *PSF 
> Committees*webpage at
> http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the heading:  “Active
> Committees, Sprint Committee (SC)”:
> Sprint Committee (SC) 
>
> 4. Could you please replace the following information on the *PSF
> Committees* webpage at http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the
> heading:  “Active Committees, Trademarks Committee (TMC)” from:
> Trademarks Committee (TMC) 


Sorry for the delay, but http://www.python.org/psf/committees is now up to
date.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- September 2011 - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 17:01, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for
> September 2011.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat

This has been completed.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Board Resolutions from July through September 2011 Board Meetings - Please Post Online

[Brian Curtin]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 17:12, Pat Campbell  wrote:
> Hi pydotorg team:
>
>
>
> Could you please add the following board resolutions from
>
> the July through September 2011 board meeting to this web page:
>
>
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/

Sorry for the delay - this has been completed.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: wiki.python.org

[Brian Curtin]

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 05:13, anatoly techtonik  wrote:
> FWIW, we are all developers and it's strange that people send reports
> instead of patches. Something is wrong here. I suspect it is
> insufficient exposure of source code running the site. There is a
> Code-In coming - it might be a good idea to suggest improvements in
> this area for the challenge.

Not everyone has the time or interest to submit patches. I *know* you
know this, as we've interacted on mailing lists and the bug tracker
for a while now.

However a person wants to notify us of an issue is better than not
notifying us at all.
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Quick webstats question

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 18:19, Carl Karsten  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Noah Kantrowitz  wrote:
>> On Oct 11, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Brian Curtin wrote:
>>> The reason I ask is because it would mean we average around 1.5M
>>> Windows installers downloaded per month for the last year, unless of
>>> course I am misunderstanding what that page means.
>>
>> That number will also include web crawlers I think, not sure how carefully 
>> those are filtered from the logs.
>>
>
> Is it safe to assume that all of the download counts will be hit about
> the same?  so take the lowest, assume it is 100% crawler traffic,
> subtract from the rest, get non crawler traffic.

If that's the case, in a full month some old 2.3 installers are being
hit around 2000 times. Subtract that away from each of the more
current/active releases and it's barely a difference, which is great.
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[pydotorg-www] Quick webstats question

[Brian Curtin]

This seems self explanatory, but I just wanted a quick sanity check
before I use these numbers in a report...

1. Open http://www.python.org/webstats/url_201110.html
2. Do a CTRL-F for "/ftp/python/2.7.2/python-2.7.2.msi". The hit count
is "163124"
3. Does this mean 163,124 people downloaded that 2.7.2 Windows
installer so far this month?

The reason I ask is because it would mean we average around 1.5M
Windows installers downloaded per month for the last year, unless of
course I am misunderstanding what that page means.

(I apologize if this is the wrong mailing list, I figured it would be
the most likely correct one)
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Re: [pydotorg-www] Errors when attempting to undo wiki spam

[Brian Curtin]

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:52, anatoly techtonik  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Michael Foord  wrote:
> > On 05/07/2011 18:23, s...@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I sent this out yesterday but saw no response.  Maybe the pydotorg list
> is
> >> now defunct?  Trying pydotorg-www instead.
> >
> > pydotorg-www is the correct list for website issues. pydotorg is only for
> > private things like ssh keys and also where job postings and Planet
> Python
> > requests go. I can't help you with this though. :-(
>
> Instead of explaining that to everybody, it would be better to just
> rename pydotorg to pydotorg-internals.


Please don't do this.
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[pydotorg-www] Request for commit access RE: download/windows page

[Brian Curtin]

Michael Foord reached out to Tim Golden and myself to work on and maintain
the currently outdated http://www.python.org/download/windows/ page, and I'd
like to help.

I'm new to this particular list so I'm not sure what crossover there may be
from python-dev and others, but I have CPython commit access and I'm one of
the seemingly few Windows users in that circle. If this is a reasonable
request, my key is attached here.


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