Re: [pygame] PyGame website

[Peter Shinners]

Rene, you've got first pick on where the domain should be configured. 
I'll get in touch with you offline.


On 12/29/2012 04:09 AM, René Dudfield wrote:

Hi again,

as I mentioned a couple of times already, I've been working on a new 
website.


As well as maintaining the website for over 7 years, I've also been 
hosting the website and paying for the server for a few years, since 
the seul.org  host was having various troubles(other 
processes on the same box, like Tor servers which meant frequent 
hacking and blocking by various countries).  The mailing list is still 
hosted with seul.org  however.


Please be patient until things are in a state to collaborate more.  
Some things are already migrated or part migrated to the bitbucket and 
DVCS like the wiki, downloads, mercurial version control, issue 
tracking etc.  There are multiple admins on the bitbucket account.  
Comments are with the disquss system, and can be moderated by users.


The new docs are another part of the website that have been migrated.  
The '/docs/' url is still pointed to the old docs at the moment, 
however the alternative url which I put up for testing and to gather 
feedback is still available, and is updated from version control 
automatically.


There has also been work on integrating the buildbots to use travis-ci 
and some other build hosts, to go along with the current build page 
at: http://thorbrian.com/pygame/builds.php


I would like to move the website forward as I have planned.  As well I 
am happy to keep paying for hosting.  I would also like to collaborate 
more on it.  It has been a fairly massive undertaking with many 
different parts, and that has taken way more time that I'd hoped.


However, some parts can already be updated by people, and we are 
getting closer to being able to have more people collaborate on it.  
Going forward, I will have more time to work on the website, and not 
just spend my time fighting spam, and I will put tasks in the issue 
tracker for more visibility, and to allow more people to collaborate.


It would be nice to have confirmation from Pete that he won't just 
move the dns away to point somewhere else.



all the best,



On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Peter Shinners > wrote:


I've been keeping the domain name registered.

The web server and hosting has been managed by seul.org
, which was an lucky and amazing choice for the
project back in early 2003. Seul has been awesome, but the
downside is that everything is "custom". The admins have been
amazing at adding extra ssh accounts for us, but that still feel
like it may not scale or be as flexible as other hosting options
these days?

After I stopped managing the website, Phil Hassey and Rene
Dudfield took over. If a new website is getting put together, it
feels like a good time to point the domain to that.

Currently the domain is set to expire in April 2013. I won't let
it expire, but if someone has more ambitious way to manage it, now
may be a good time to change that also?




On 12/01/2012 05:10 AM, Radomir Dopieralski wrote:

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Thomas Kluyver
mailto:tak...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does anyone know who runs the website?

Here's what I know.

According to whois, the domain is registered to "Contact
Privacy Inc.
Customer 0118713523 ", and the server is
hosted by "Hetzner Online AG",
which is a big hosting provider. The website itself contains no
contact information or address, which may or may not be
against the
law, depending on the country. The only person who I know has
access
to the website is not responding to e-mail or other contact
attempts
from multiple people since 3 months, although I can see he is
active
online. The people on the mailing list and IRC channel either
have no
idea or simply don't care. Yes, this is frustrating. No, I
don't know
what else could be done, apart from just making a separate
website,
which may actually be for the best, even though I'm a great fan of
gradual improvement.

If anybody has any better information or ideas, I'd love to
hear them.
Sorry if this all sounds negative, I'm sure this situation didn't
arise because of malice or bad will. But it still hurts to see
people
wanting to help and being unable to do it.

Re: [pygame] PyGame website

[Thomas Kluyver]

On 29 December 2012 12:09, René Dudfield  wrote:

> as I mentioned a couple of times already, I've been working on a new
> website.
>

Excellent. Is there a repository anywhere so that people can help you with
it? How far is it from being ready to replace the current site?


> There has also been work on integrating the buildbots to use travis-ci and
> some other build hosts, to go along with the current build page at:
> http://thorbrian.com/pygame/builds.php
>

'Current' seems a bit of a stretch when it hasn't run in over a year. ;-)

Besides Travis, I've also used Shining Panda (
https://www.shiningpanda-ci.com/ ), which has a free plan for open source
projects, and Launchpad recipe builds. I can lend a hand with setting that
sort of thing up, if you'd like.

Best wishes,
Thomas

[pygame] website issue: review new docs

[René Dudfield]

hi,

Here is one website issue which needs help with.  The new docs need a
review before going live.

Here is the issue link:
https://bitbucket.org/pygame/pygame/issue/149/review-then-use-new-docs-on-website

If you want to help, please review the docs, and send pull requests with
any fixes you have.  Please leave comments on the issue.



all the best,

ps.  All website tasks/issues/bugs are to be marked in the issue tracker
with the 'component' of 'website'.
https://bitbucket.org/pygame/pygame/issues?component=website

Re: [pygame] PyGame website

[René Dudfield]

Hi again,

as I mentioned a couple of times already, I've been working on a new
website.

As well as maintaining the website for over 7 years, I've also been hosting
the website and paying for the server for a few years, since the
seul.orghost was having various troubles(other processes on the same
box, like Tor
servers which meant frequent hacking and blocking by various countries).
The mailing list is still hosted with seul.org however.

Please be patient until things are in a state to collaborate more.  Some
things are already migrated or part migrated to the bitbucket and DVCS like
the wiki, downloads, mercurial version control, issue tracking etc.  There
are multiple admins on the bitbucket account.  Comments are with the
disquss system, and can be moderated by users.

The new docs are another part of the website that have been migrated.  The
'/docs/' url is still pointed to the old docs at the moment, however the
alternative url which I put up for testing and to gather feedback is still
available, and is updated from version control automatically.

There has also been work on integrating the buildbots to use travis-ci and
some other build hosts, to go along with the current build page at:
http://thorbrian.com/pygame/builds.php

I would like to move the website forward as I have planned.  As well I am
happy to keep paying for hosting.  I would also like to collaborate more on
it.  It has been a fairly massive undertaking with many different parts,
and that has taken way more time that I'd hoped.

However, some parts can already be updated by people, and we are getting
closer to being able to have more people collaborate on it.  Going forward,
I will have more time to work on the website, and not just spend my time
fighting spam, and I will put tasks in the issue tracker for more
visibility, and to allow more people to collaborate.

It would be nice to have confirmation from Pete that he won't just move the
dns away to point somewhere else.


all the best,



On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Peter Shinners  wrote:

> I've been keeping the domain name registered.
>
> The web server and hosting has been managed by seul.org, which was an
> lucky and amazing choice for the project back in early 2003. Seul has been
> awesome, but the downside is that everything is "custom". The admins have
> been amazing at adding extra ssh accounts for us, but that still feel like
> it may not scale or be as flexible as other hosting options these days?
>
> After I stopped managing the website, Phil Hassey and Rene Dudfield took
> over. If a new website is getting put together, it feels like a good time
> to point the domain to that.
>
> Currently the domain is set to expire in April 2013. I won't let it
> expire, but if someone has more ambitious way to manage it, now may be a
> good time to change that also?
>
>
>
>
> On 12/01/2012 05:10 AM, Radomir Dopieralski wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Thomas Kluyver  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know who runs the website?
>>>
>> Here's what I know.
>>
>> According to whois, the domain is registered to "Contact Privacy Inc.
>> Customer 0118713523", and the server is hosted by "Hetzner Online AG",
>> which is a big hosting provider. The website itself contains no
>> contact information or address, which may or may not be against the
>> law, depending on the country. The only person who I know has access
>> to the website is not responding to e-mail or other contact attempts
>> from multiple people since 3 months, although I can see he is active
>> online. The people on the mailing list and IRC channel either have no
>> idea or simply don't care. Yes, this is frustrating. No, I don't know
>> what else could be done, apart from just making a separate website,
>> which may actually be for the best, even though I'm a great fan of
>> gradual improvement.
>>
>> If anybody has any better information or ideas, I'd love to hear them.
>> Sorry if this all sounds negative, I'm sure this situation didn't
>> arise because of malice or bad will. But it still hurts to see people
>> wanting to help and being unable to do it.
>>
>
>