Re: [pygtk] gnome application
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 14:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to write a gnome application using gnome-python (without glade) but I havn't been able to find any examples or documentation showing how to do it. I can only find examples from a couple years ago, showing how it used to be done the old way with the earlier version of pygtk and with the deprecated from foo import * statements. The reason I want to go through this without glade is to have a better understanding of what is going on under the hood. Can anyone point me to some example code or documentation showing how to do this? --Doug Blanding Get pygtk tarball and have a look at the example dir (esp pygtk-demo). Regards, Xavier Ordoquy. Xavier- Thanks for your suggestion. You are right. There is an example there called appwindow.py which builds an application window pretty much like what I want, complete with menubar, toolbar and statusbar. But I am thinking there is a call to gnomeui.App (or something like that) which creates the application window automatically (complete with menubar, toolbar and statusbar). According to some old documentation I read, you used to be able to do this. But now with pygtk2 and the new python-gnome, I haven't seen any examples or documentation to show how to do it. --Doug Blanding ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] gnome application
Thanks for your suggestion. You are right. There is an example there called appwindow.py which builds an application window pretty much like what I want, complete with menubar, toolbar and statusbar. But I am thinking there is a call to gnomeui.App (or something like that) which creates the application window automatically (complete with menubar, toolbar and statusbar). According to some old documentation I read, you used to be able to do this. But now with pygtk2 and the new python-gnome, I haven't seen any examples or documentation to show how to do it. --Doug Blanding Well, gnome windows are usually avoided by most developpers. You should consider using bonobo windows instead. In gnome-python tarball, it's in examples/bonobo/bonoboui Regards, Xavier Ordoquy. ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] gnome application
Thanks for your suggestion. You are right. There is an example there called appwindow.py which builds an application window pretty much like what I want, complete with menubar, toolbar and statusbar. But I am thinking there is a call to gnomeui.App (or something like that) which creates the application window automatically (complete with menubar, toolbar and statusbar). According to some old documentation I read, you used to be able to do this. But now with pygtk2 and the new python-gnome, I haven't seen any examples or documentation to show how to do it. --Doug Blanding Well, gnome windows are usually avoided by most developpers. You should consider using bonobo windows instead. In gnome-python tarball, it's in examples/bonobo/bonoboui Regards, Xavier Ordoquy. Oh, OK. Thanks, I didn't know that. I have tried the bonoboui example and played with it a little. It certainly seems to provide a nice UI. I guess I was just afraid of it because I don't know anything about bonobo (what it is or why I need it). I suppose I'll just need to learn more about bonobo windows. Thanks. --Doug Blanding ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
RE: [pygtk] gnome application
Well, gnome windows are usually avoided by most developpers. You should consider using bonobo windows instead. In gnome-python tarball, it's in examples/bonobo/bonoboui No, I think that most people are trying to use BonoboUI as little as possible. The new menu and toolbar APIs in GTK+ 2.4 are meant to replace - The old GTK+ menus and toolbars - The libgnomeui menus and toolbar - The libbonoboui menus and toolbars. This is all my opinion, but I think you should just use libbonoboui if you want to create an embeddable GUI component, or us libbonobo if you want to do some difficult multi-threading interprocess-communication stuff. Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
RE: [pygtk] gnome application
Well, gnome windows are usually avoided by most developpers. You should consider using bonobo windows instead. In gnome-python tarball, it's in examples/bonobo/bonoboui No, I think that most people are trying to use BonoboUI as little as possible. The new menu and toolbar APIs in GTK+ 2.4 are meant to replace - The old GTK+ menus and toolbars - The libgnomeui menus and toolbar - The libbonoboui menus and toolbars. This is all my opinion, but I think you should just use libbonoboui if you want to create an embeddable GUI component, or us libbonobo if you want to do some difficult multi-threading interprocess-communication stuff. OK, but now I still have my original question. Can an application window be built using a call to gnomeui.App which will automagically give me the consistent and slick look and feel of a Gnome Application (menubar, dockable toolbar, etc) using a simple command or two like in the bonoboui example? (And if so, can anyone point me to some documentation or example code showing how?) I also now have another question: What is it that most developpers know that causes them to want to avoid Gnome windows? Maybe if I knew that, I wouldn't be asking the first question. --Doug Blanding ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
RE: [pygtk] gnome application
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 18:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also now have another question: What is it that most developpers know that causes them to want to avoid Gnome windows? Maybe if I knew that, I wouldn't be asking the first question. --Doug Blanding For what I can see gnumeric, planner (ex mrproject), evolution, abiword, nautilus, ghex, file-roller and a couple of other apps uses that bonobo window. Some uses bonobo for embedding but not all. Now, I missed that improvement in gtk 2.4 so that may make sense to think about it twice. ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
RE: [pygtk] gnome application
A Sex, 2003-12-12 às 15:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Well, gnome windows are usually avoided by most developpers. You should consider using bonobo windows instead. In gnome-python tarball, it's in examples/bonobo/bonoboui No, I think that most people are trying to use BonoboUI as little as possible. The new menu and toolbar APIs in GTK+ 2.4 are meant to replace - The old GTK+ menus and toolbars - The libgnomeui menus and toolbar - The libbonoboui menus and toolbars. This is all my opinion, but I think you should just use libbonoboui if you want to create an embeddable GUI component, or us libbonobo if you want to do some difficult multi-threading interprocess-communication stuff. You are correct. However, pygtk doesn't yet wrap the new gtk+ 2.4 menu APIs, so the better choice right now is still bonoboui. Regards. -- Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] gnome application
hi there is a good tutorial for pygtk2 at: http://www.moeraki.com/pygtktutorial/pygtk2tutorial/ but i don't know any for gnome-python lg / sifu On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 08:21:43AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to write a gnome application using gnome-python (without glade) but I havn't been able to find any examples or documentation showing how to do it. I can only find examples from a couple years ago, showing how it used to be done the old way with the earlier version of pygtk and with the deprecated from foo import * statements. The reason I want to go through this without glade is to have a better understanding of what is going on under the hood. Can anyone point me to some example code or documentation showing how to do this? --Doug Blanding ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
