Re: Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
---Original Message--- From: Christian Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 06/11/03 08:02 AM To: Michel Thadeu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ? >> I use anjuta for c/c++ in debian, is there anjuta for python? And what >> about scintilla? Is it a editor or a library (maybe it was a silly >> question, but I can found a executable made after the compilation of >> scintilla)... >I think scintilla comes with an example or test editor, which is >probably what the binary you found is. It's actually a widget for >code-editing. For what it's worth, Anjuta seems to work nicely with Python. I have not used Anjuta with Python enough to reccomend it, but it does recognize the code.. so far Anjuta seems Python-friendly enough. A little more testing and I may switch from Komodo. Komodo has some nice features though, like Python syntax highlighting, more automatic (Python) code formatting, and multi-platform support Anjuta does state it has a goal of closer integration with Glade, which may be what Michael is looking for.. ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 03:23:44PM -0300, Michel Thadeu wrote: > > I want to know about IDEs, either for pygtk, tk or wxwindows... And > want to know if wxwindows can equiparate to pygtk... There's not a lot of these available freely. PyGTK itself (staying on-topic) doesn't have a `native' IDE -- usually, a code editor is used together with Glade. Glade can be used to produce interface descriptions in XML (which are read in runtime using libglade, or converted into code using glc or whatever) and to maintain them over time. > I use glade+vim to build my programs, but I know programs like pycrust, > but the pycrust is a shell, I want a editor with the same > functionality... Someone recently suggested this -- in person, here in Brazil -- but I forget who it was. :-) > I use anjuta for c/c++ in debian, is there anjuta for python? And what > about scintilla? Is it a editor or a library (maybe it was a silly > question, but I can found a executable made after the compilation of > scintilla)... I think scintilla comes with an example or test editor, which is probably what the binary you found is. It's actually a widget for code-editing. > And what about programs like glade? I found wxglade and boa-contructor, > the second is cool... Not for PyGTK. For wx there are options, but you don't want to use wx, do you? ;) Take care, -- Christian Reis, Senior Engineer, Async Open Source, Brazil. http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 261 2331 | NMFL ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
--- Cedric Gustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:37 AM 6/4/2003 -0700, B C wrote: > > >Is anybody loading JPG's using gdkpixbuf with the windows > >GTK+-Runtime-Environment? > > > >Last time I tried (it has been a while) it did not work. I might give it > >another go, but I just thought I would check to see if anyone else is doing > >it first. > > Did you try with the latest runtime installer (at least version 2.2.1.1) > from www.dropline.net ? The jpeg dll was missing in the previous > distributions (see the "latest news" on http://www.dropline.net/gtk/). > > Cedric > The new GTK+ runtime version works just fine. thanks for the help, -bc __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
Jean-Baptiste Cazier wrote: Sæl ! I have been designing a couple of applications on my linux box based on python + gtk and they work just fine. But porting them to any Windows system is quite a pain because GTK is not straight forward to install on those platforms However, Tcl /Tk is very easy to install on both *nix and Windows platform. So why should I develop under gtk while I could use the more portable tk ? Coudl you please enlighten me with your pros and cons of both candidates or any third one Some of the reasons to choose GTK over Tk include: * GTK provides a larger range of standard widgets, so you are more likely to find a widget that does what you want. * GTK has full support for unicode and internationalised text (including BiDi). This fits in with Python's unicode support, which makes i18n a breeze. In right to left environments, the user interface of your app will even be flipped. * GTK has accessibility support through the ATK library. This integrates with the Gnome a11y tools. As many countries have laws about equal access or discrimination against disabilities, accessibility support may be required if providing a solution to governments. * Antialiased text. On X11, GTK uses the fontconfig and Xft libraries to provide client side font rendering, which results in much better quality, and can be faster than the old core X font system in some cases. * A PyGTK app will conform to your GTK theme, so will fit in well on a Gnome desktop. Apparently KDE will also set up a matching GTK theme for you, so your app should fit in well there as well. Through the standardisation efforts at freedesktop.org, your app should integrate better with either desktop as time goes on. * Tk apps generally look out of place on modern Unix desktops. I don't know if/when this situation will change. On top of this, I think PyGTK has a nicer API compared to Tkinter, but that is just an opinion. I suggest trying both out (make sure you try a 1.99.x version of PyGTK though, rather than the older 0.6.x versions). On the downside, documentation for PyGTK is not as extensive as Tkinter documentation. However, we have some reference documentation that has been generated from the C docs, and there are a number of tutorials available. Hope this helps, James. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
--- Cedric Gustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:37 AM 6/4/2003 -0700, B C wrote: > > >Is anybody loading JPG's using gdkpixbuf with the windows > >GTK+-Runtime-Environment? > > > >Last time I tried (it has been a while) it did not work. I might give it > >another go, but I just thought I would check to see if anyone else is doing > >it first. > > Did you try with the latest runtime installer (at least version 2.2.1.1) > from www.dropline.net ? The jpeg dll was missing in the previous > distributions (see the "latest news" on http://www.dropline.net/gtk/). > I will give that a shot when I get a chance. thanks, -bc __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
Hi guys! I want to know about IDEs, either for pygtk, tk or wxwindows... And want to know if wxwindows can equiparate to pygtk... I use glade+vim to build my programs, but I know programs like pycrust, but the pycrust is a shell, I want a editor with the same functionality... I use anjuta for c/c++ in debian, is there anjuta for python? And what about scintilla? Is it a editor or a library (maybe it was a silly question, but I can found a executable made after the compilation of scintilla)... And what about programs like glade? I found wxglade and boa-contructor, the second is cool... thanks... -- Michel Thadeu Sabchuk Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil = -- Michel Thadeu Sabchuk Curitiba/PR ___ Yahoo! Mail Mais espaço, mais segurança e gratuito: caixa postal de 6MB, antivírus, proteção contra spam. http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
At 09:37 AM 6/4/2003 -0700, B C wrote: Is anybody loading JPG's using gdkpixbuf with the windows GTK+-Runtime-Environment? Last time I tried (it has been a while) it did not work. I might give it another go, but I just thought I would check to see if anyone else is doing it first. Did you try with the latest runtime installer (at least version 2.2.1.1) from www.dropline.net ? The jpeg dll was missing in the previous distributions (see the "latest news" on http://www.dropline.net/gtk/). Cedric ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
--- John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it's really not too hard: > > 1 ) Install > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gtk-win/GTK+-Runtime-Environment-2.2.1.1.exe > to c:\GTK, and add C:\GTK\lib and C:\GTK\bin to your PATH. > > 2) Install > http://www.pcpm.ucl.ac.be/~gustin/win32_ports/binaries/pygtk-1.99.16-thread.win32-py2.2.exe. > > You're done. Your pygtk apps will run great on windows. > > I think it's fair to say that pygtk2 is more powerful than Tk, and the > apps certainly look a lot nicer. > Is anybody loading JPG's using gdkpixbuf with the windows GTK+-Runtime-Environment? Last time I tried (it has been a while) it did not work. I might give it another go, but I just thought I would check to see if anyone else is doing it first. -bc __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
> "Jean-Baptiste" == Jean-Baptiste Cazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jean-Baptiste> I have been designing a couple of applications on Jean-Baptiste> my linux box based on python + gtk and they work Jean-Baptiste> just fine. But porting them to any Windows system Jean-Baptiste> is quite a pain because GTK is not straight forward Jean-Baptiste> to install on those platforms However, Tcl /Tk is Jean-Baptiste> very easy to install on both *nix and Windows Jean-Baptiste> platform. Well, it's really not too hard: 1 ) Install http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gtk-win/GTK+-Runtime-Environment-2.2.1.1.exe to c:\GTK, and add C:\GTK\lib and C:\GTK\bin to your PATH. 2) Install http://www.pcpm.ucl.ac.be/~gustin/win32_ports/binaries/pygtk-1.99.16-thread.win32-py2.2.exe. You're done. Your pygtk apps will run great on windows. I think it's fair to say that pygtk2 is more powerful than Tk, and the apps certainly look a lot nicer. John Hunter ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
Re: [pygtk] pygtk or py + tk ?
Hi, I have just written a HOWTO about installing Ruby-GTK+2 on Windows, and it is very easy to do. It could be "ported" to PyGTK+ very easily. Check it out: http://ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp/hiki.cgi?Install+Guide+for+Windows Regards, Joao --- Jean-Baptiste Cazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sæl ! > > I have been designing a couple of applications on my > linux box based on python + gtk and they work just > fine. > But porting them to any Windows system is quite a > pain because GTK is not straight forward to install > on those platforms > However, Tcl /Tk is very easy to install on both > *nix and Windows platform. > > So why should I develop under gtk while I could use > the more portable tk ? > Coudl you please enlighten me with your pros and > cons of both candidates or any third one > > Takk > > Jean-Baptiste > > -- > - > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Department of Statistics > deCODE genetics Sturlugata,8 > 570 2993 101 Reykjavík > > ___ > pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk > Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ pygtk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daa.com.au/mailman/listinfo/pygtk Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/
