Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On 16-Jan-03 Jonathan Gardner wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote: >> I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a >> front end >> needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time. > Jim, > Thanks for the offer. Please note that it's Phil's offer -- I'm not that generous :) (Actually I don't have any web space to offer) Jim ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On Thursday 16 January 2003 5:30 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:12, Phil Thompson wrote: > > On Thursday 16 January 2003 4:42 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote: > > > On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote: > > > > I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front > > > > end needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time. > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > Thanks for the offer. > > > > Errm, me or Jim? > > Sorry Phil, I meant you. Oops.. > > > > Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and > > > mod_perl with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if > > > I was able to have a normal user account on the system? > > > > My server (rather my ISP's server) is PHP and MySQL. You couldn't have an > > account. I'd have to vet the code before installing it. However, I > > wouldn't have a problem maintaining the code once the first version was > > up. > > Is there any advantage to using your (or your ISP's) servers over > SourceForge? Wouldn't you rather have SourceForge foot the bill? It sounds > like the setup is almost exactly the same. No advantage at all - but it's there as an option. Phil ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:12, Phil Thompson wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 4:42 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote: > > On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote: > > > I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end > > > needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time. > > > > Jim, > > > > Thanks for the offer. > > Errm, me or Jim? > Sorry Phil, I meant you. Oops.. > > Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and mod_perl > > with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if I was able > > to have a normal user account on the system? > > My server (rather my ISP's server) is PHP and MySQL. You couldn't have an > account. I'd have to vet the code before installing it. However, I wouldn't > have a problem maintaining the code once the first version was up. > Is there any advantage to using your (or your ISP's) servers over SourceForge? Wouldn't you rather have SourceForge foot the bill? It sounds like the setup is almost exactly the same. -- Jonathan Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Qt perl apache and linux ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On Thursday 16 January 2003 4:42 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote: > > I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end > > needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time. > > Jim, > > Thanks for the offer. Errm, me or Jim? > Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and mod_perl > with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if I was able > to have a normal user account on the system? My server (rather my ISP's server) is PHP and MySQL. You couldn't have an account. I'd have to vet the code before installing it. However, I wouldn't have a problem maintaining the code once the first version was up. Phil ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On 16-Jan-03 Jonathan Gardner wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:27, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote: >> Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there. >> Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package >> section. > I think it is a great idea. I think it is necessary for > wide-spread acceptance of PyQt and PyKDE. Our goal is world > domination, isn't it? ;-) My goal is to just get the next release done (I don't know if that deserves a :) or :( ) I thought this was great software back when it was < 1.0, and a lot of stuff (including Phil's v 4.0 and Detlev's 'eric') is going to make it even better. I'd like to see sip, PyQt and PyKDE get wider use and recognition. I probably average privately an inquiry per month from people who want to build on top of PyQt/PyKDE, but a lot of that is still proprietary stuff. That's in addition to stuff like Gerard's package and some other things on sf that occasionally get mentioned here. Jim ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On 16-Jan-03 Hans-Peter Jansen wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 14:13, Michael Lauer wrote: >> Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek: >> > What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if >> > it is possible to place some little programs I happened to >> > write on that page. By now, I do not have my own page and >> > I wouldn't like to create one. So it would be nice if >> > there was a section of programs with links and/or >> > direct downloads. >> Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt >> widgets which I could publish and would be interested in >> seeing other ones. >> > One of the programs I mean is outline.py. It started as a port >> > of the outline example of Qt, but is under development for >> > some time now and has evolved.It keeps a tree of remarks >> > in an XML file, I use it as todolist/notepad/knowledge >> > base/organizer. >> Sounds interesting. >> Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]? > Do possibly mean > http://sourceforge.net/project/admin/?group_id=61057 > Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there. > Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package > section. If somebody want to upload something, just post the > details in this listfile name: > package name: > package version: > release notes: > changelog (opt.): > and upload to anonymous@ftp://upload.sourceforge.net > Hopefully some project member picks it up quickly enough, and > publish the thing in download section. > > Comments? I think it's a great idea. I'd also be interested in seeing any small programs/snippets that people write to test out PyQt or PyKDE classes - I'd be happy to include PyKDE related stuff (like example/demo stuff) in the PyKDE distribution. The only other thing I'd suggest is either some review of scripts to try and make sure they're not mailicious, or else a notice/disclaimer (added to the download?) that advises people to do that. I'm only an "honorary" admin on the sf/pykde site - if the programs to be posted are small, it might be easier to mail them (tar.gz or zip) to the actual maintainers rather than trying to co-ordinate an sf upload. Jim ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote: > > I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end > needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time. > Jim, Thanks for the offer. Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and mod_perl with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if I was able to have a normal user account on the system? I think it is a great idea to have something like this hosted outside of SourceForge because we can have so much control over it. The only worry is that if it gets terribly busy, will it impose on your ISP bill? I always like using SourceForge for bandwidth munching things because the bill ends up in VA's lap. Anyway, I have a few people who are willing to do this using PHP on the SourceForge site, so if there is any reason you would be uncomfortable doing this, don't be afraid to let me know. -- Jonathan Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Qt perl apache and linux ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:27, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote: > Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there. > > Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package section. I think it is a great idea. I think it is necessary for wide-spread acceptance of PyQt and PyKDE. Our goal is world domination, isn't it? ;-) > If somebody want to upload something, just post the details in this list > file name: > package name: > package version: > release notes: > changelog (opt.): > > and upload to anonymous@ftp://upload.sourceforge.net > > Hopefully some project member picks it up quickly enough, and publish > the thing in download section. > > Comments? > Yes, unfortunately, this doesn't work well in practice. Just send the files to me, or make them available from some server somewhere so that I can download them. For small software packages, like a widget or an app that you threw together that is pretty simple, you won't have to go to great lengths and be so serious about it. Just send what you got (or put what you have someplace I can get it) and let me know what it does. -- Jonathan Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Qt perl apache and linux ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
> Option one is to have some sort of system where one could sign up, post > scripts, rate other's scripts, comments on each other's scripts, offer > patches, etc..., all hosted on SourceForge. This would be a lot of work, and > it needs to be written in PHP. I can't help with this because I don't know > PHP, I don't have the time to learn it, nor the time to implement something > with it. If anyone knows PHP, or wants to learn it, and has time to do the > development, let me know and I'll help get you set up. Take a look at openzaurus.org, which is coded in php. Since I'm very active in this project, I know the guy who did this. Maybe we could take some of this code? Mickey. -- :M: -- Dipl.-Inf. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raum 10b - ++49 69 798 28358 Fachbereich Informatik und Biologie -- ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On Thursday 16 January 2003 14:13, Michael Lauer wrote: > Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek: > > What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is > > possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that page. > > By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create one. > > So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or > > direct downloads. > > Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets > which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones. > > > One of the programs I mean is outline.py. It started as a port of the > > outline example of Qt, but is under development for some time now and has > > evolved. > > It keeps a tree of remarks in an XML file, I use it as > > todolist/notepad/knowledge base/organizer. > > Sounds interesting. > > Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Do possibly mean http://sourceforge.net/project/admin/?group_id=61057 Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there. Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package section. If somebody want to upload something, just post the details in this list file name: package name: package version: release notes: changelog (opt.): and upload to anonymous@ftp://upload.sourceforge.net Hopefully some project member picks it up quickly enough, and publish the thing in download section. Comments? Pete ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On Thursday 16 January 2003 2:59 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 05:13, Michael Lauer wrote: > > Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek: > > > What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is > > > possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that > > > page. By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create > > > one. So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links > > > and/or direct downloads. > > > > Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets > > which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones. > > > > > Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]? > > This is really neat. I am in charge of pykde.sf.net, at least the > administration part. I think it would be great to have this stuff on the > site. It is no problem at all to put your programs in the downloads > section. > > Here are the options, and what is holding back each one. If someone has > something they can donate (time or servers) to get one of these going, let > me know and I'll work with you. > > Option one is to have some sort of system where one could sign up, post > scripts, rate other's scripts, comments on each other's scripts, offer > patches, etc..., all hosted on SourceForge. This would be a lot of work, > and it needs to be written in PHP. I can't help with this because I don't > know PHP, I don't have the time to learn it, nor the time to implement > something with it. If anyone knows PHP, or wants to learn it, and has time > to do the development, let me know and I'll help get you set up. > > Option two is to host your scripts somewhere else that already is in > existence, most likely at a python script warehouse, or a Qt or KDE program > warehouse. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a site that I personally enjoy > and find useful, so there is no place that I can suggest for this. If > anyone knows of a good site, let me know. > > Option three is to use someone's web server, install mod_perl with apache, > and get a real solution together, not this PHP stuff that SourceForge > requires us to use. I would enjoy doing a lot of development work putting > together an interactive website. The only downside is that we need to find > someone with a suitable server. > > Those are the three long tem solutions I am looking at. The most realistic > and the best option in my opinion is the first one. However, I myself > cannot implement it. If anyone else has any other ideas, let me know. > > In the meantime, if you want to see your source code on sourceforge, send > me your code and a brief description of what your software does and why it > is cool. I'll talk with the current webmaster and see what we can do with > it. I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time. Phil ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
On Thursday 16 January 2003 05:13, Michael Lauer wrote: > Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek: > > What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is > > possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that page. > > By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create one. > > So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or > > direct downloads. > > Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets > which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones. > > > Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]? This is really neat. I am in charge of pykde.sf.net, at least the administration part. I think it would be great to have this stuff on the site. It is no problem at all to put your programs in the downloads section. Here are the options, and what is holding back each one. If someone has something they can donate (time or servers) to get one of these going, let me know and I'll work with you. Option one is to have some sort of system where one could sign up, post scripts, rate other's scripts, comments on each other's scripts, offer patches, etc..., all hosted on SourceForge. This would be a lot of work, and it needs to be written in PHP. I can't help with this because I don't know PHP, I don't have the time to learn it, nor the time to implement something with it. If anyone knows PHP, or wants to learn it, and has time to do the development, let me know and I'll help get you set up. Option two is to host your scripts somewhere else that already is in existence, most likely at a python script warehouse, or a Qt or KDE program warehouse. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a site that I personally enjoy and find useful, so there is no place that I can suggest for this. If anyone knows of a good site, let me know. Option three is to use someone's web server, install mod_perl with apache, and get a real solution together, not this PHP stuff that SourceForge requires us to use. I would enjoy doing a lot of development work putting together an interactive website. The only downside is that we need to find someone with a suitable server. Those are the three long tem solutions I am looking at. The most realistic and the best option in my opinion is the first one. However, I myself cannot implement it. If anyone else has any other ideas, let me know. In the meantime, if you want to see your source code on sourceforge, send me your code and a brief description of what your software does and why it is cool. I'll talk with the current webmaster and see what we can do with it. -- Jonathan Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Qt perl apache and linux ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek: > What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is possible to place >some > little programs I happened to write on that page. By now, I do not have my own page >and I > wouldn't like to create one. > So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or direct >downloads. Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones. > One of the programs I mean is outline.py. It started as a port of the outline >example of > Qt, but is under development for some time now and has evolved. > It keeps a tree of remarks in an XML file, I use it as todolist/notepad/knowledge > base/organizer. Sounds interesting. Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]? -- :M: -- Dipl.-Inf. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raum 10b - ++49 69 798 28358 Fachbereich Informatik und Biologie -- ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mats.gmd.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde
[PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net
What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that page. By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create one. So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or direct downloads. One of the programs I mean is outline.py. It started as a port of the outline example of Qt, but is under development for some time now and has evolved. It keeps a tree of remarks in an XML file, I use it as todolist/notepad/knowledge base/organizer. It is designed for fast keyboard use and does not have documentation yet. You will need QScintilla and recent snapshots of sip/PyQt. It is not as big and full of features as Treeline, but can be used much faster. I do not want to post it to the list right now, but if anybody is interested, I will mail it to them. greetings Torsten -- Torsten Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ID: A244C858 -- fingerprint 1902 0002 5DFC 856B F146 894C 7CC5 451E A244 C858 www.keyserver.net -- wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net msg03694/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
