Hi all,
The "auto_show_classified" feature is now available from the open-source SVN
code repository. I've also uploaded pre-compiled builds to
http://pymol.org/download (alpha release, not intended for production use).
The setting has 3 modes: 0 (off, default), 1 (like Adam suggested), 2
(including the default lines), and 3 (simplified version with ribbon instead of
cartoon).
See also:
http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/auto_show_classified
Any feedback will be appreciated.
Cheers,
Thomas
On 08 Feb 2016, at 15:16, H. Adam Steinberg wrote:
> Every application has to satisfy it's users.
>
> Thinking out loud…
> If you show all lines the new users find it confusing and overwhelming but
> they do get to see every atom. Experienced users generally know what atoms
> are in a PDB or know how to find them if they are looking for them and
> therefore do not need to see all lines.
>
> The current proposal is to show more structure (cartoon, sticks, spheres) but
> leave on all lines behind this structure. My first thought is what would that
> look like. So I open a current structure and show both options (attached). If
> I leave all lines on it’s still a bit of a mess. I think it looks better with
> all lines off.
>
>
>
> PM.pdf>
>
>
>
>> On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Thomas Holder
>> wrote:
>>
>> Adam, Abhinav, Dave,
>> thanks for the very useful feedback.
>>
>> To keep it simple, I propose a "auto_show_classified" setting (will depend
>> on "auto_classify_atoms", on by default) which will be equivalent to:
>>
>> show cartoon, polymer
>> show sticks, organic
>> show spheres, inorganic
>>
>> Question: should this automatically hide lines for classified atoms?
>>
>> By the way, you may also like the "nice" preset (with "x" alias) from psico:
>> https://github.com/speleo3/pymol-psico/blob/master/psico/viewing.py
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Thomas
>>
>> On 08 Feb 2016, at 13:50, Bourgaize David wrote:
>>
>>> My thoughts exactly!
>>>
>>> Dave Bourgaize
>>>
>>> On 2/8/16, 9:54 AM, "H. Adam Steinberg" wrote:
>>>
Every year I teach students PyMOL, and the look on their faces when they
first open a pdb in PyMOL and get a cluster of green sticksŠ yikes!
YES!!! to the default being secondary structure, ligands as sticks, and
metal ions as spheres! Add - nucleic acids as cartoon.
> On Feb 8, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Kumar, Abhinav wrote:
>
> Showing metal ions (and FES clusters etc) as spheres would also be
> useful.
>
> Thanks,
> Abhinav
>
> Abhinav Kumar, PhD
> Senior Scientist, Bioinformatics
> Intrexon, Inc.
> 329 Oyster Point Blvd., South San Francisco, CA 94080
> (650) 597-4072 | aku...@intrexon.com
>
>
>
> From: Thomas Holder [thomas.hol...@schrodinger.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:51 AM
> To: Ivan Vulovic; Schubert, Carsten [JRDUS]
> Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] auto_show_cartoon or similar
>
> Hi Ivan and Carsten,
>
> I can take "auto_show_cartoon" as a feature request. It's trivial to
> implement.
>
> What also would be nice: automatically showing sticks for ligands. e.g.
> corresponding to the "not polymer" or the "organic" selection. Thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> On 08 Feb 2016, at 09:07, Schubert, Carsten [JRDUS]
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ivan,
>>
>> you could either try to overload the ³load² function in Pymol (not
>> sure this is supported) or write your own custom load function under a
>> different name, which loads the protein, assigns the name of the
>> object, hides lines and shows the cartoon.
>>
>> Sorry, this is a rather generic answer but should point you in the
>> right direction.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carsten
>>
>> From: Ivan Vulovic [mailto:i...@uw.edu]
>> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 8:18 PM
>> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: [PyMOL] auto_show_cartoon or similar
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Is there a way to make cartoon the default representation, something
>> akin to "auto_show_lines", but for cartoon? There was some dicussion of
>> this in 2010 (link below) but I haven't found anything more recent that
>> does what I'd like.
>>
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg07734
>> .html
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ivan
>
> H. Adam Steinberg
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