Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or related libraries

2012-11-27 Thread Mike Marchywka






 From: jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com
 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:37:52 -0600
 Subject: Re: was: [PyMOL] Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or 
 related libraries
 To: marchy...@hotmail.com
 CC: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net

 Hi Mike,

  I was trying to figure out what to eat today so naturally I started looking 
  for PDB libraries
  with food components. I was looking for garlic related chemicals when I 
  came across this,
 
  http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/
 
  which seems to have many pdb files. My question I guess is, what does pymol 
  have
  for an API to get molecule structures from various locations or do you 
  just have an
  interface for pdb.org? Besides deciding on what to eat today, I was curious 
  if
  pymol has more generalized means of finding structure files.

 We have an API for accessing structures remotely. For example,

 load http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/html/00150001_00175000/153919/153919.pdb,
 myMolecule

 You could easily create a PyMOL plugin
 (http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Plugins_Tutorial) that takes
 advantage of this site very simply using the load command and
 formatted URLs.

Thanks, I didn't know it would be that simple and that looks like a good way to 
learn
python. Although I am curious now if I had a pdb that lacks hydrogens, like I 
did in this case,
what pymol facilities are there for adding them? Apparently you have some 
editing
capabilites and analyses, I thought there may be some way to guess 
approximately where
the hydrogens should go and then export the new file. This is probably obvious 
from a quick google search on basic capabilites but it also sounds as if there
may be less well known specialized tools for doing less common things like this.



 I hope your meal was tasty.

how can you enjoy it without the pdb file on the screen and optimizing in DFT? 
LOL.





 Cheers,

Thanks.


 -- Jason


  
   From: jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com
   Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:57:38 -0500
   To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: [PyMOL] Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution
  
   Greetings,
  
   On Oct 28th, the folks at the PDB made some changes to their PDB Web
   Services interface. This change broke Mobile PyMOL's ability to search
   for and download PDBs.
 
  I haven't bothered to look at this specific situation but this a problem 
  with many sites
  and automated interaction. NCBI has a nice eutils interface that has 
  remained stable
  for a while, I'd been trying to get more groups to offer a web interface 
  designed for
  automated interactions. FWIW,
 
  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK25500/
 
 
  Do you have automated access to this library for example,
 
  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Structure/index.shtml
 
  they also have their own viwer, for example,
 
  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Structure/CN3D/cn3d.shtml
 
  but pymol seems a bit more extensive.
 
  
   I have updated Mobile PyMOL and will soon resubmit it to the AppStore
   for verification and release. This process takes typically takes no
   less than 8 days. So, in the meantime for the 7,000 Mobile PyMOL users
   please use the following technique to acquire structures:
   (1) Using Safari on the iPad browse to the www.pdb.org and find the
   structure you want.
   (2) Click Download Files from the upper right hand side of the
   structure's page and then select PDB File (Text).
   (3) Click Open in PyMOL.
  
   Happily, as a long-term solution, I've established contact with the
   PDB Web Services Group and we'll now be made aware of future changes.
   The PDB is an extremely valuable resource in the community and I'm
   glad we could work this out.
  
   Cheers,
  
   -- Jason
  
   --
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Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or related libraries

2012-11-27 Thread Jason Vertrees
Mike,

 Although I am curious now if I had a pdb that lacks hydrogens, like I did in 
 this case,
 what pymol facilities are there for adding them? Apparently you have some 
 editing

h_add object_name

Type, help h_add or check out h_add on the PyMOLWiki
(http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/H_Add).

Cheers,

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Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or related libraries

2012-11-27 Thread Mike Marchywka







 From: jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:37:41 -0600
 Subject: Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or 
 related libraries
 To: marchy...@hotmail.com
 CC: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net

 Mike,

  Although I am curious now if I had a pdb that lacks hydrogens, like I did 
  in this case,
  what pymol facilities are there for adding them? Apparently you have some 
  editing

 h_add object_name

 Type, help h_add or check out h_add on the PyMOLWiki
 (http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/H_Add).

Thanks, applying to the pdb I had seems to have worked but it didn't think much 
of the double bonds
and added extra's but presumably I can delete and rotate more easily than 
adding all them manually.




 Cheers,

 -- Jason

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Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or related libraries

2012-11-26 Thread Jason Vertrees
Hi Mike,

 I was trying to figure out what to eat today so naturally I started looking 
 for PDB libraries
 with food components.  I was looking for garlic related chemicals when I came 
 across this,

 http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/

 which seems to have many pdb files. My question I guess is, what does pymol 
 have
 for an API to get molecule structures from various locations or do you just 
 have an
 interface for pdb.org? Besides deciding on what to eat today, I was curious if
 pymol has more generalized means of finding structure files.

We have an API for accessing structures remotely. For example,

   load 
http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/html/00150001_00175000/153919/153919.pdb,
myMolecule

You could easily create a PyMOL plugin
(http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Plugins_Tutorial) that takes
advantage of this site very simply using the load command and
formatted URLs.

I hope your meal was tasty.

Cheers,

-- Jason


 
  From: jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com
  Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:57:38 -0500
  To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [PyMOL] Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution
 
  Greetings,
 
  On Oct 28th, the folks at the PDB made some changes to their PDB Web
  Services interface. This change broke Mobile PyMOL's ability to search
  for and download PDBs.

 I haven't bothered to look at this specific situation but this a problem 
 with many sites
 and automated interaction. NCBI has a nice eutils interface that has 
 remained stable
 for a while, I'd been trying to get more groups to offer a web interface 
 designed for
 automated interactions. FWIW,

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK25500/


 Do you have automated access to this library for example,

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Structure/index.shtml

 they also have their own viwer, for example,

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Structure/CN3D/cn3d.shtml

 but pymol seems a bit more extensive.

 
  I have updated Mobile PyMOL and will soon resubmit it to the AppStore
  for verification and release. This process takes typically takes no
  less than 8 days. So, in the meantime for the 7,000 Mobile PyMOL users
  please use the following technique to acquire structures:
  (1) Using Safari on the iPad browse to the www.pdb.org and find the
  structure you want.
  (2) Click Download Files from the upper right hand side of the
  structure's page and then select PDB File (Text).
  (3) Click Open in PyMOL.
 
  Happily, as a long-term solution, I've established contact with the
  PDB Web Services Group and we'll now be made aware of future changes.
  The PDB is an extremely valuable resource in the community and I'm
  glad we could work this out.
 
  Cheers,
 
  -- Jason
 
  --
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  PyMOL Product Manager
  Schrödinger, Inc.
 
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[PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or related libraries

2012-11-25 Thread Mike Marchywka


I was trying to figure out what to eat today so naturally I started looking for 
PDB libraries 
with food components.  I was looking for garlic related chemicals when I came 
across this,

http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/

which seems to have many pdb files. My question I guess is, what does pymol have
for an API to get molecule structures from various locations or do you just 
have an
interface for pdb.org? Besides deciding on what to eat today, I was curious if
pymol has more generalized means of finding structure files. 

Thanks.


note new address
Mike Marchywka 2295 Collinworth Drive Marietta GA 30062.




 From: marchy...@hotmail.com
 To: jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com; pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [PyMOL] Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution
 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:43:41 -0400






 
  From: jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com
  Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:57:38 -0500
  To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [PyMOL] Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution
 
  Greetings,
 
  On Oct 28th, the folks at the PDB made some changes to their PDB Web
  Services interface. This change broke Mobile PyMOL's ability to search
  for and download PDBs.

 I haven't bothered to look at this specific situation but this a problem with 
 many sites
 and automated interaction. NCBI has a nice eutils interface that has remained 
 stable
 for a while, I'd been trying to get more groups to offer a web interface 
 designed for
 automated interactions. FWIW,

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK25500/


 Do you have automated access to this library for example,

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Structure/index.shtml

 they also have their own viwer, for example,

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Structure/CN3D/cn3d.shtml

 but pymol seems a bit more extensive.

 
  I have updated Mobile PyMOL and will soon resubmit it to the AppStore
  for verification and release. This process takes typically takes no
  less than 8 days. So, in the meantime for the 7,000 Mobile PyMOL users
  please use the following technique to acquire structures:
  (1) Using Safari on the iPad browse to the www.pdb.org and find the
  structure you want.
  (2) Click Download Files from the upper right hand side of the
  structure's page and then select PDB File (Text).
  (3) Click Open in PyMOL.
 
  Happily, as a long-term solution, I've established contact with the
  PDB Web Services Group and we'll now be made aware of future changes.
  The PDB is an extremely valuable resource in the community and I'm
  glad we could work this out.
 
  Cheers,
 
  -- Jason
 
  --
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  PyMOL Product Manager
  Schrödinger, Inc.
 
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Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or related libraries

2012-11-25 Thread Thomas Holder
Hi Mike,

you can fetch molecular files from any web address with the load
command. Examples:

File type recognized from file extension:

PyMOL load
http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/html/00150001_00175000/153919/153919.pdb

File type given with format argument:

PyMOL load
http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?cid=5280443disopt=3DSaveSDF,
format=sdf

Also, Mobile PyMOL (for the iPad) has it's own server capabilities,
including support for PubChem, PDB, Dropbox, etc.

Cheers,
  Thomas

Mike Marchywka wrote, On 11/25/12 17:26:
 I was trying to figure out what to eat today so naturally I started looking 
 for PDB libraries 
 with food components.  I was looking for garlic related chemicals when I came 
 across this,
 
 http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/
 
 which seems to have many pdb files. My question I guess is, what does pymol 
 have
 for an API to get molecule structures from various locations or do you just 
 have an
 interface for pdb.org?
 Besides deciding on what to eat today, I was curious if
 pymol has more generalized means of finding structure files. 
 
 Thanks.
 
 note new address
 Mike Marchywka 2295 Collinworth Drive Marietta GA 30062.

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Schrödinger Contractor

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Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or related libraries

2012-11-25 Thread Mike Marchywka






 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:49:26 +0100
 From: spel...@users.sourceforge.net
 To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or 
 related libraries

 Hi Mike,

 you can fetch molecular files from any web address with the load
 command. Examples:

 File type recognized from file extension:

 PyMOL load
 http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/html/00150001_00175000/153919/153919.pdb


Thanks, it sounded like the original poster was refering to a larger facility 
to find
pdb files in a variety of libraries. If I know where the file is I can usually 
get it
with wget but if tere is some search API or facility that may be helpful. I am 
finding
some pdb collections online but thought they may be listed somewhere.

In any case, I eventually realized that the pdb does not have the hydrogens and
I can't find one that may. Would it be reasonable to try to use pymol to
add them? I only need artists conception as presumably the DFT optimization 
will
make it more accurate.




 File type given with format argument:

 PyMOL load
 http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?cid=5280443disopt=3DSaveSDF,
 format=sdf

 Also, Mobile PyMOL (for the iPad) has it's own server capabilities,
 including support for PubChem, PDB, Dropbox, etc.

 Cheers,
 Thomas

 Mike Marchywka wrote, On 11/25/12 17:26:
 I was trying to figure out what to eat today so naturally I started looking 
 for PDB libraries
 with food components. I was looking for garlic related chemicals when I came 
 across this,

 http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/

 which seems to have many pdb files. My question I guess is, what does pymol 
 have
 for an API to get molecule structures from various locations or do you 
 just have an
 interface for pdb.org?
 Besides deciding on what to eat today, I was curious if
 pymol has more generalized means of finding structure files.

 Thanks.

 note new address
 Mike Marchywka 2295 Collinworth Drive Marietta GA 30062.

 --
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 PyMOL Developer
 Schrödinger Contractor

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Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or related libraries

2012-11-25 Thread Mike Marchywka



fwiw, I did find mol2 format at this location which is just fine for my scripts,

http://zinc.docking.org/substance/1633229

Thanks.


 From: marchy...@hotmail.com
 To: spel...@users.sourceforge.net; pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:00:08 -0500
 Subject: Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or 
 related libraries






 
  Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:49:26 +0100
  From: spel...@users.sourceforge.net
  To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [PyMOL] was: Mobile PyMOL Problem and Solution/ Now: pdb or 
  related libraries
 
  Hi Mike,
 
  you can fetch molecular files from any web address with the load
  command. Examples:
 
  File type recognized from file extension:
 
  PyMOL load
  http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/html/00150001_00175000/153919/153919.pdb


 Thanks, it sounded like the original poster was refering to a larger facility 
 to find
 pdb files in a variety of libraries. If I know where the file is I can 
 usually get it
 with wget but if tere is some search API or facility that may be helpful. I 
 am finding
 some pdb collections online but thought they may be listed somewhere.

 In any case, I eventually realized that the pdb does not have the hydrogens 
 and
 I can't find one that may. Would it be reasonable to try to use pymol to
 add them? I only need artists conception as presumably the DFT optimization 
 will
 make it more accurate.



 
  File type given with format argument:
 
  PyMOL load
  http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?cid=5280443disopt=3DSaveSDF,
  format=sdf
 
  Also, Mobile PyMOL (for the iPad) has it's own server capabilities,
  including support for PubChem, PDB, Dropbox, etc.
 
  Cheers,
  Thomas
 
  Mike Marchywka wrote, On 11/25/12 17:26:
  I was trying to figure out what to eat today so naturally I started 
  looking for PDB libraries
  with food components. I was looking for garlic related chemicals when I 
  came across this,
 
  http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/
 
  which seems to have many pdb files. My question I guess is, what does 
  pymol have
  for an API to get molecule structures from various locations or do you 
  just have an
  interface for pdb.org?
  Besides deciding on what to eat today, I was curious if
  pymol has more generalized means of finding structure files.
 
  Thanks.
 
  note new address
  Mike Marchywka 2295 Collinworth Drive Marietta GA 30062.
 
  --
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  PyMOL Developer
  Schrödinger Contractor
 
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