Re: [PyMOL] trying to build cyclic peptides with PyMOL

2008-02-14 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Moshe,

No it isn't. PyMOL is a molecular viewer/graphics engine, not a
modeling package. However, it's not too hard to do using your
favourite MD package. With the definition of a bond and some energy
minimization you'd get close. If it's for displaying purposes only,
that might even be enough.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:17 AM,   wrote:
>
>  Hello.
>
>  I am new to PyMOL.
>  Very easily I succeeded to build a linear peptide, given its sequence.
>  I want to build a cyclic peptide for the same sequence, connecting the
>  C-terminus with the N-terminus. I know that the bond that is created
>  that way is too long - it should be, also, some
>  (automatic/algorithmic) way to rearrange the cyclic structure in order
>  to have an acceptable bond length.
>  Is this possible to do with PyMOL?
>
>  Thanks for your help.
>  -- Moshe Goldstein
>
>
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Re: [PyMOL] trying to build cyclic peptides with PyMOL

2008-02-15 Thread Kathleen Pratt
For an analytical solution to the cyclic peptide problem, see N Go and
HA Scheraga, Macromolecules 6, 273 (1973). For an application to
modeling of the cyclic peptide gramicidin S, see M Dygert, N Go and HA
Scheraga Macromolecules 8, 750-761, 1975. 


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Hello.

I am new to PyMOL.
Very easily I succeeded to build a linear peptide, given its sequence.
I want to build a cyclic peptide for the same sequence, connecting the
C-terminus with the N-terminus. I know that the bond that is created
that way is too long - it should be, also, some
(automatic/algorithmic) way to rearrange the cyclic structure in order
to have an acceptable bond length.
Is this possible to do with PyMOL?

Thanks for your help.
-- Moshe Goldstein




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Re: [PyMOL] trying to build cyclic peptides with PyMOL

2008-02-16 Thread goldmosh


Thank you for those references - I will look on them.
Do you think they will help in actually building a cyclic peptide with PyMOL?

Thanks again.
-- Moshe Goldstein

Quoting Kathleen Pratt :


For an analytical solution to the cyclic peptide problem, see N Go and
HA Scheraga, Macromolecules 6, 273 (1973). For an application to
modeling of the cyclic peptide gramicidin S, see M Dygert, N Go and HA
Scheraga Macromolecules 8, 750-761, 1975.


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921 Terry Avenue
Benaroya Research Institute, Rm. 3016
Seattle, WA 98104
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FAX 206-587-6056
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Hello.

I am new to PyMOL.
Very easily I succeeded to build a linear peptide, given its sequence.
I want to build a cyclic peptide for the same sequence, connecting the
C-terminus with the N-terminus. I know that the bond that is created
that way is too long - it should be, also, some
(automatic/algorithmic) way to rearrange the cyclic structure in order
to have an acceptable bond length.
Is this possible to do with PyMOL?

Thanks for your help.
-- Moshe Goldstein




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Re: [PyMOL] trying to build cyclic peptides with PyMOL

2008-02-16 Thread goldmosh


I need to build a cyclic peptide as the initial conformation for  
further simulations, not only for displaying purposes.

I will try what you say and I will see.

Thank you.
-- Moshe Goldstein

Quoting Tsjerk Wassenaar :


Hi Moshe,

No it isn't. PyMOL is a molecular viewer/graphics engine, not a
modeling package. However, it's not too hard to do using your
favourite MD package. With the definition of a bond and some energy
minimization you'd get close. If it's for displaying purposes only,
that might even be enough.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:17 AM,   wrote:


 Hello.

 I am new to PyMOL.
 Very easily I succeeded to build a linear peptide, given its sequence.
 I want to build a cyclic peptide for the same sequence, connecting the
 C-terminus with the N-terminus. I know that the bond that is created
 that way is too long - it should be, also, some
 (automatic/algorithmic) way to rearrange the cyclic structure in order
 to have an acceptable bond length.
 Is this possible to do with PyMOL?

 Thanks for your help.
 -- Moshe Goldstein



 
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