Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Laura Creighton]

First draft in extradoc.  Please add the more details of the topics we
want to discuss, and decide whether you want to do the sprinting at
my house or at OE.  I am fine with either.  I don't think there will
be any actual construction happening in the house at this time.  If I
am wrong, I will let you know as soon as I do.

Laura
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Laura Creighton]

In a message of Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:09:45 +0200, Bea During writes:
>Hi there
>
>holger krekel skrev 2011-10-13 06:44:
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 22:04 +0200, Armin Rigo wrote:
>>> Hi Maciej,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:28, Maciej Fijalkowski  w
>rote:
 It's not like we even discussed what the general pypy pot will be use
>d
 for. I think sprint funding is fine, but what are other people
 opinions?
>>> Of course I agree.  Note that 6 nights at Chalmers Studenthem is about
>>> ~120 Euros per person in a double room, if I remember correctly.  If
>>> the problem is that this is still too much, then (as far as I can
>>> tell) it should not be an issue to arrange sprint funding for you.  We
>>> already did this occasionally for other people, btw.
>> right, we already agreed before that pypy developers can get travel
>> funding for coming to sprints.
>>
>> holger
>Yes indeed. And in light of the latest discussions about funding for 
>py3k and numpy we should consider this sprint as a kick off of those 
>efforts so we need the people there who will commit to work on these 
>efforts as well as other core developers to give input and help with 
>input/start up discussions.
>
>Could we try to get a sprint announcement out that actually states this 
>it would be a great way to show that we are not dragging our feet on 
>these initiatives.
>
>Cheers
>
>Bea

Are we still decided that we are going to have one here, now that Maciej's
funding problem is settled?

Laura

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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Bea During]

Hi there

holger krekel skrev 2011-10-13 06:44:

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 22:04 +0200, Armin Rigo wrote:

Hi Maciej,

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:28, Maciej Fijalkowski  wrote:

It's not like we even discussed what the general pypy pot will be used
for. I think sprint funding is fine, but what are other people
opinions?

Of course I agree.  Note that 6 nights at Chalmers Studenthem is about
~120 Euros per person in a double room, if I remember correctly.  If
the problem is that this is still too much, then (as far as I can
tell) it should not be an issue to arrange sprint funding for you.  We
already did this occasionally for other people, btw.

right, we already agreed before that pypy developers can get travel
funding for coming to sprints.

holger
Yes indeed. And in light of the latest discussions about funding for 
py3k and numpy we should consider this sprint as a kick off of those 
efforts so we need the people there who will commit to work on these 
efforts as well as other core developers to give input and help with 
input/start up discussions.


Could we try to get a sprint announcement out that actually states this 
it would be a great way to show that we are not dragging our feet on 
these initiatives.


Cheers

Bea
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Laura Creighton]

In a message of Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:04:08 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi Maciej,
>
>On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:28, Maciej Fijalkowski  wrot
>e:
>> It's not like we even discussed what the general pypy pot will be used
>> for. I think sprint funding is fine, but what are other people
>> opinions?
>
>Of course I agree.  Note that 6 nights at Chalmers Studenthem is about
>~120 Euros per person in a double room, if I remember correctly.  If
>the problem is that this is still too much, then (as far as I can
>tell) it should not be an issue to arrange sprint funding for you.  We
>already did this occasionally for other people, btw.
>
>
>A bientôt,
>
>Armin.

And, again as always, I think that sprint funding is the very best
use we can make of our money, as a general principle.

Laura
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[holger krekel]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 22:04 +0200, Armin Rigo wrote:
> Hi Maciej,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:28, Maciej Fijalkowski  wrote:
> > It's not like we even discussed what the general pypy pot will be used
> > for. I think sprint funding is fine, but what are other people
> > opinions?
> 
> Of course I agree.  Note that 6 nights at Chalmers Studenthem is about
> ~120 Euros per person in a double room, if I remember correctly.  If
> the problem is that this is still too much, then (as far as I can
> tell) it should not be an issue to arrange sprint funding for you.  We
> already did this occasionally for other people, btw.

right, we already agreed before that pypy developers can get travel
funding for coming to sprints.

holger
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Armin Rigo]

Hi Maciej,

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:28, Maciej Fijalkowski  wrote:
> It's not like we even discussed what the general pypy pot will be used
> for. I think sprint funding is fine, but what are other people
> opinions?

Of course I agree.  Note that 6 nights at Chalmers Studenthem is about
~120 Euros per person in a double room, if I remember correctly.  If
the problem is that this is still too much, then (as far as I can
tell) it should not be an issue to arrange sprint funding for you.  We
already did this occasionally for other people, btw.


A bientôt,

Armin.
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Laura Creighton]

Just to clarify:  I am fine with all of you eating at my house and
cooking together if that is what is required.  It is just the 'sleeping
at my place' part which is temporarily broken, because I don't have any
bathing facilities to offer you (showers and bathtub).  The laundry and
toilets are fine.

It just sounded like a good idea to have a sprint in Gbg at this time
because of the fscons and vinnova connection at this time.  If people
want to sprint someplace else, I am fine with that too.

Laura, who cannot even begin to tell you how much she is sorry about this ...

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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Maciej Fijalkowski]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Antonio Cuni  wrote:
> On 12/10/11 12:14, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
>
>> Indeed, so quite a few people will be around anyway.
>>
>> Well, so I'm not coming, too expensive.
>
> we can always use the "general pypy pot" to fund you, can't we?
>

It's not like we even discussed what the general pypy pot will be used
for. I think sprint funding is fine, but what are other people
opinions?

Cheers,
fijal
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Antonio Cuni]

On 12/10/11 12:14, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:


Indeed, so quite a few people will be around anyway.

Well, so I'm not coming, too expensive.


we can always use the "general pypy pot" to fund you, can't we?
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Maciej Fijalkowski]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Bea During  wrote:
> Hi there
>
> Maciej Fijalkowski skrev 2011-10-11 21:41:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bea During  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there
>>>
>>> Antonio Cuni skrev 2011-10-11 17:01:

 On 13/09/11 13:35, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:

> Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
> Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
> Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.
>
> Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd
> through
> Thursday Nov 10.
>
> fscons: http://fscons.org/ Nov 11-13 Not sure what day we will be
> speaking
> yet.
>
> What do the rest of you think of this idea?

 Did we decide anything wrt the Gothenburg sprint in November?  I think
 it's time booking the flights, else the might become expensive.

 We should decide the dates and publish the sprint announcement.

 Probably, I'll be able to come only on the 4th, and then I might stay
 until the 13th, to attend fscons.

 ciao,
 Anto
>>>
>>> I talked to Laura about this today and she wanted me to email the
>>> following
>>> and start to push for a sprint announcement (which apparently not needed
>>> since the discussion has been reboote):
>>>
>>> - the sprint need to take place at the Open End office due to bathroom
>>> logistic angst in Lauras/Jacobs house (apparently all apartements need to
>>> revamp some of the plumbing which collides with the sprint)
>>> So we need to add directions to Open End facilities to the sprint
>>> announcement: Open End AB, Norra Ågatan 10, 416 64 Göteborg, see
>>> http://kartor.eniro.se/m/ajEHO
>>>
>>> - suggested dates that we suggest is as above: Wednesday 2nd of Nov to
>>> Thursday 10th of Nov
>>>
>>> - due to the logistical mess of the bathroom situation at Jacob and
>>> Lauras
>>> place they will not be able to host people sleeping over other in the
>>> same
>>> manner as they usually do (Anto - there is a bed for you as promised
>>> though). So we need to recommend some cheap places for booking
>>> accommodations as well (Chalmers Studenthem)
>>>
>>> - as for topics, it seems Maciej suggests a 1.7 release before the sprint
>>> so
>>> we need to check the todo list
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Bea
>>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Maybe with logistics being harder we should move the sprint to some
>> cheaper place? (I do appreciate OE lending us a room though)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> fijal
>
> With cheaper place do you mean another country/town than Gothenburg? If so I
> would like to remind about FSCons as well as the possibility of doing a
> potential presentation for Vinnova in end of October.
>
> What did you have in mind?

Indeed, so quite a few people will be around anyway.

Well, so I'm not coming, too expensive.

Cheers,
fijal
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Bea During]

Hi there

Maciej Fijalkowski skrev 2011-10-11 21:41:

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bea During  wrote:

Hi there

Antonio Cuni skrev 2011-10-11 17:01:

On 13/09/11 13:35, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:


Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.

Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd
through
Thursday Nov 10.

fscons: http://fscons.org/ Nov 11-13 Not sure what day we will be
speaking
yet.

What do the rest of you think of this idea?


Did we decide anything wrt the Gothenburg sprint in November?  I think
it's time booking the flights, else the might become expensive.

We should decide the dates and publish the sprint announcement.

Probably, I'll be able to come only on the 4th, and then I might stay
until the 13th, to attend fscons.

ciao,
Anto

I talked to Laura about this today and she wanted me to email the following
and start to push for a sprint announcement (which apparently not needed
since the discussion has been reboote):

- the sprint need to take place at the Open End office due to bathroom
logistic angst in Lauras/Jacobs house (apparently all apartements need to
revamp some of the plumbing which collides with the sprint)
So we need to add directions to Open End facilities to the sprint
announcement: Open End AB, Norra Ågatan 10, 416 64 Göteborg, see
http://kartor.eniro.se/m/ajEHO

- suggested dates that we suggest is as above: Wednesday 2nd of Nov to
Thursday 10th of Nov

- due to the logistical mess of the bathroom situation at Jacob and Lauras
place they will not be able to host people sleeping over other in the same
manner as they usually do (Anto - there is a bed for you as promised
though). So we need to recommend some cheap places for booking
accommodations as well (Chalmers Studenthem)

- as for topics, it seems Maciej suggests a 1.7 release before the sprint so
we need to check the todo list

Cheers

Bea


Hi

Maybe with logistics being harder we should move the sprint to some
cheaper place? (I do appreciate OE lending us a room though)

Cheers,
fijal
With cheaper place do you mean another country/town than Gothenburg? If 
so I would like to remind about FSCons as well as the possibility of 
doing a potential presentation for Vinnova in end of October.


What did you have in mind?

Cheers

Bea




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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Maciej Fijalkowski]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bea During  wrote:
>> Hi there
>>
>> Antonio Cuni skrev 2011-10-11 17:01:
>>>
>>> On 13/09/11 13:35, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
>>>
 Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
 Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
 Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.

 Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd
 through
 Thursday Nov 10.

 fscons: http://fscons.org/ Nov 11-13 Not sure what day we will be
 speaking
 yet.

 What do the rest of you think of this idea?
>>>
>>>
>>> Did we decide anything wrt the Gothenburg sprint in November?  I think
>>> it's time booking the flights, else the might become expensive.
>>>
>>> We should decide the dates and publish the sprint announcement.
>>>
>>> Probably, I'll be able to come only on the 4th, and then I might stay
>>> until the 13th, to attend fscons.
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>> Anto
>>
>> I talked to Laura about this today and she wanted me to email the following
>> and start to push for a sprint announcement (which apparently not needed
>> since the discussion has been reboote):
>>
>> - the sprint need to take place at the Open End office due to bathroom
>> logistic angst in Lauras/Jacobs house (apparently all apartements need to
>> revamp some of the plumbing which collides with the sprint)
>> So we need to add directions to Open End facilities to the sprint
>> announcement: Open End AB, Norra Ågatan 10, 416 64 Göteborg, see
>> http://kartor.eniro.se/m/ajEHO
>>
>> - suggested dates that we suggest is as above: Wednesday 2nd of Nov to
>> Thursday 10th of Nov
>>
>> - due to the logistical mess of the bathroom situation at Jacob and Lauras
>> place they will not be able to host people sleeping over other in the same
>> manner as they usually do (Anto - there is a bed for you as promised
>> though). So we need to recommend some cheap places for booking
>> accommodations as well (Chalmers Studenthem)
>>
>> - as for topics, it seems Maciej suggests a 1.7 release before the sprint so
>> we need to check the todo list
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bea
>>
>
> Hi
>
> Maybe with logistics being harder we should move the sprint to some
> cheaper place? (I do appreciate OE lending us a room though)
>
> Cheers,
> fijal
>

For one I can host a sprint at my mountain hut. It has internet and
cheap to very cheap accomodation, it's however definitely less
conviniently placed (about 2h by train from prague).

Cheers,
fijal
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Maciej Fijalkowski]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Bea During  wrote:
> Hi there
>
> Antonio Cuni skrev 2011-10-11 17:01:
>>
>> On 13/09/11 13:35, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
>>
>>> Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
>>> Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
>>> Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.
>>>
>>> Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd
>>> through
>>> Thursday Nov 10.
>>>
>>> fscons: http://fscons.org/ Nov 11-13 Not sure what day we will be
>>> speaking
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> What do the rest of you think of this idea?
>>
>>
>> Did we decide anything wrt the Gothenburg sprint in November?  I think
>> it's time booking the flights, else the might become expensive.
>>
>> We should decide the dates and publish the sprint announcement.
>>
>> Probably, I'll be able to come only on the 4th, and then I might stay
>> until the 13th, to attend fscons.
>>
>> ciao,
>> Anto
>
> I talked to Laura about this today and she wanted me to email the following
> and start to push for a sprint announcement (which apparently not needed
> since the discussion has been reboote):
>
> - the sprint need to take place at the Open End office due to bathroom
> logistic angst in Lauras/Jacobs house (apparently all apartements need to
> revamp some of the plumbing which collides with the sprint)
> So we need to add directions to Open End facilities to the sprint
> announcement: Open End AB, Norra Ågatan 10, 416 64 Göteborg, see
> http://kartor.eniro.se/m/ajEHO
>
> - suggested dates that we suggest is as above: Wednesday 2nd of Nov to
> Thursday 10th of Nov
>
> - due to the logistical mess of the bathroom situation at Jacob and Lauras
> place they will not be able to host people sleeping over other in the same
> manner as they usually do (Anto - there is a bed for you as promised
> though). So we need to recommend some cheap places for booking
> accommodations as well (Chalmers Studenthem)
>
> - as for topics, it seems Maciej suggests a 1.7 release before the sprint so
> we need to check the todo list
>
> Cheers
>
> Bea
>

Hi

Maybe with logistics being harder we should move the sprint to some
cheaper place? (I do appreciate OE lending us a room though)

Cheers,
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Bea During]

Hi there

Antonio Cuni skrev 2011-10-11 17:01:

On 13/09/11 13:35, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:


Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.

Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd 
through

Thursday Nov 10.

fscons: http://fscons.org/ Nov 11-13 Not sure what day we will be 
speaking

yet.

What do the rest of you think of this idea?



Did we decide anything wrt the Gothenburg sprint in November?  I think 
it's time booking the flights, else the might become expensive.


We should decide the dates and publish the sprint announcement.

Probably, I'll be able to come only on the 4th, and then I might stay 
until the 13th, to attend fscons.


ciao,
Anto


I talked to Laura about this today and she wanted me to email the 
following and start to push for a sprint announcement (which apparently 
not needed since the discussion has been reboote):


- the sprint need to take place at the Open End office due to bathroom 
logistic angst in Lauras/Jacobs house (apparently all apartements need 
to revamp some of the plumbing which collides with the sprint)
So we need to add directions to Open End facilities to the sprint 
announcement: Open End AB, Norra Ågatan 10, 416 64 Göteborg, see 
http://kartor.eniro.se/m/ajEHO


- suggested dates that we suggest is as above: Wednesday 2nd of Nov to 
Thursday 10th of Nov


- due to the logistical mess of the bathroom situation at Jacob and 
Lauras place they will not be able to host people sleeping over other in 
the same manner as they usually do (Anto - there is a bed for you as 
promised though). So we need to recommend some cheap places for booking 
accommodations as well (Chalmers Studenthem)


- as for topics, it seems Maciej suggests a 1.7 release before the 
sprint so we need to check the todo list


Cheers

Bea


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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Hakan Ardo]

Hi,
sorry for not answering earlier, but the proposed sprint dates (nov
2-10) will most likely work for me too. Can we make bridges a sprint
topic?

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Antonio Cuni  wrote:
> On 13/09/11 13:35, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
>
>> Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
>> Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
>> Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.
>>
>> Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd through
>> Thursday Nov 10.
>>
>> fscons: http://fscons.org/ Nov 11-13 Not sure what day we will be speaking
>> yet.
>>
>> What do the rest of you think of this idea?
>
>
> Did we decide anything wrt the Gothenburg sprint in November?  I think it's
> time booking the flights, else the might become expensive.
>
> We should decide the dates and publish the sprint announcement.
>
> Probably, I'll be able to come only on the 4th, and then I might stay until
> the 13th, to attend fscons.
>
> ciao,
> Anto
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Antonio Cuni]

On 13/09/11 13:35, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:


Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.

Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd through
Thursday Nov 10.

fscons: http://fscons.org/ Nov 11-13 Not sure what day we will be speaking
yet.

What do the rest of you think of this idea?



Did we decide anything wrt the Gothenburg sprint in November?  I think it's 
time booking the flights, else the might become expensive.


We should decide the dates and publish the sprint announcement.

Probably, I'll be able to come only on the 4th, and then I might stay until 
the 13th, to attend fscons.


ciao,
Anto
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Armin Rigo]

Hi,

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Christian Tismer  wrote:
> This should work for me as well. So if nothing suddenly happens,
> count me in.

Nice to see you again!  Yes, I confirm that I will also be there
starting from the 24th or 28th of October (hopefully we know soonish
which one it is), and for the sprint and FSCons.


A bientôt,

Armin.
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Christian Tismer]

On 9/13/11 1:35 PM, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:

Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.

Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd 
through

Thursday Nov 10.

fscons: http://fscons.org/  Nov 11-13  Not sure what day we will be 
speaking

yet.

What do the rest of you think of this idea?



This should work for me as well. So if nothing suddenly happens,
count me in.

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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Laura Creighton]

Fscons has asked for somebody to speak on PyPy.  So far I have
said 'yes' and nothing specific about the content.

Laura
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Maciej Fijalkowski]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Antonio Cuni  wrote:
> On 13/09/11 13:35, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
>
>> Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
>> Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
>> Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.
>>
>> Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd through
>> Thursday Nov 10.
>>
>> fscons: http://fscons.org/ Nov 11-13 Not sure what day we will be speaking
>> yet.
>>
>> What do the rest of you think of this idea?
>
> It should work for me, although I might arrive a bit later.  If needed, I
> can also stay for fscons and be a co-speaker.  Who is going to speak and
> about what?
>

Surprisingly enough works for me. I have to be Nov 14th on the warsaw
airport and 24th of Oct on Prague airport.
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Re: [pypy-dev] Gothenburg Sprint Dates

[Antonio Cuni]

On 13/09/11 13:35, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:


Some of us need to be in Stockholm Oct 24 and 28.
Anto needs to be with his family Nov 1.
Fscons starts Friday Nov 11 in Göteborg, and we're giving a talk.

Thus I propose that we hold a Sprint at my house Wednesday Nov 2nd through
Thursday Nov 10.

fscons: http://fscons.org/ Nov 11-13 Not sure what day we will be speaking
yet.

What do the rest of you think of this idea?


It should work for me, although I might arrive a bit later.  If needed, I can 
also stay for fscons and be a co-speaker.  Who is going to speak and about what?


ciao,
Anto
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