[issue13432] Encoding alias unicode
kxroberto kxrobe...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:
I wonder where is the origin, who is the inventor of the frequent
charset=unicode? But:
Sorry, but it's not obviously that Unicode means UTF-8.
When I faced
meta content=text/html; charset=unicode http-equiv=Content-Type/
the first time on the web, I guessed it is UTF-8 without looking. It even
sounds colloquially reasonable ;-) And its right 99.999% of cases.
(UTF-16 is less frequent than this non-canonical unicode)
Definitely; this will just serve to create more confusion for beginners over
what a Unicode string is:
unicodestring.encode('unicode') - WTF?
I guess no python tutorial writer or encoding menu writer poses that example.
That string comes in on technical paths: web, MIME etc.
In the aliases.py there are many other names which are not canonical. frequency
convenience alias
Joining the chorus: people who need it in their application will have to add
it themselves (monkeypatching the aliases dictionary as appropriate).
Those people first would need to be aware of the option: Be all-seeing, or all
wait for the first bug reports ...
Reverse question: what would be the minus of having this alias?
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[issue13432] Encoding alias unicode
STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment: meta content=text/html; charset=unicode http-equiv=Content-Type/ Python is not a language written for the web, it's generic language to program anything! If you have a problem to parse an HTML page, the special case should be added to the HTML parser, not to the language. Do you have the encoding issue with a parser included in Python (html.parser.*)? If you have the issue with an third-party parser, you have to report the bug there. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13432 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13432] Encoding alias unicode
Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment: The mapping unicode - utf-8 is simply not defined unambiguously, in addition to being factually wrong. For example, when Microsoft talks about Unicode they mean UTF-16. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13432 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13432] Encoding alias unicode
STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment: For example, when Microsoft talks about Unicode they mean UTF-16. Sorry, but UTF-16 is ambiguously: do you mean UTF-16-LE or UTF-16-BE? ;-) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13432 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13432] Encoding alias unicode
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment: Reverse question: what would be the minus of having this alias? Please accept that this issue is closed. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13432 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13432] Encoding alias unicode
New submission from kxroberto kxrobe...@users.sourceforge.net: unicode seems not to be an official unicode encoding name alias. Yet it is quite frequent on the web - and obviously means UTF-8. (search 'text/html; charset=unicode' in Google) Chrome and IE display it as UTF-8. (Mozilla as ASCII, thus mixed up chars). Should it be added in to aliases.py ? --- ./aliases.py +++ ./aliases.py @@ -511,6 +511,7 @@ 'utf8' : 'utf_8', 'utf8_ucs2' : 'utf_8', 'utf8_ucs4' : 'utf_8', +'unicode': 'utf_8', # uu_codec codec 'uu' : 'uu_codec', -- messages: 147936 nosy: kxroberto priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Encoding alias unicode ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13432 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13432] Encoding alias unicode
Changes by kxroberto kxrobe...@users.sourceforge.net: -- components: +Unicode nosy: +ezio.melotti type: - feature request versions: +Python 2.6, Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13432 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment: Sorry, but it's not obviously that Unicode means UTF-8. -- nosy: +haypo ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13432 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13432] Encoding alias unicode
Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:
Definitely; this will just serve to create more confusion for beginners over
what a Unicode string is:
unicodestring.encode('unicode') - WTF?
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resolution: - rejected
status: open - closed
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Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment: Joining the chorus: people who need it in their application will have to add it themselves (monkeypatching the aliases dictionary as appropriate). -- nosy: +loewis ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13432 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13432] Encoding alias unicode
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