[python-committers] Voting thank you

2018-12-17 Thread Terry Reedy
I just read the PEPs and voted (with a few hours to spare).  I want to 
thank the people who organized the voting, wrote the summary of other 
projects, wrote the PEPs, and who helped the PEP authors improve the 
proposals.


I like the ranking system.  Even if my (mild) first choice (tonight) 
does not 'win', the rest of my ranks still have an effect on the outcome.


I expect I can live with whatever choice the rest of you make.  Any 
change is an experiment.  If it does not work, I expect we will try 
something different.


--
Terry Jan Reedy

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[python-committers] Python governance vote (December 2018): Results

2018-12-17 Thread [email protected]

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# Python governance vote (December 2018)

As described in [PEP 8001](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8001/), the 
governance election has been completed.

The result is that **[PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, 
Stufft)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8016/) has been selected as the 
winner**.

- - Supervisor: Ernest W. Durbin III 
- - Announced end of poll: 2018-12-17T12:00:00Z
- - Actual time poll closed: 2018-12-17T12:00:02Z
- - Authorized voters: 94 ([CPython core developers with a known 
email-address](https://github.com/python/voters/blob/bb4bceda896c38177e6d9c3c2437f63a5edb23dc/2018-12-01-governance-election.csv))
- - Actual votes cast: 62
- - Number of winning choices: 1
- - [Condorcet completion rule](https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/rp.html): Minimax

## Result

1. **[PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, 
Stufft)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8016/)**
  - (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices)

2. [PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model 
(Langa)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8012/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 40–22

3. [PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas (Wijaya, 
Warsaw)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8011/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 37–20
  - loses to PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model (Langa) by 34–28

4. [PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community 
(Stinner)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8015/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft)by 41–18
  - loses to PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas 
(Wijaya, Warsaw) by 33–24

5. [PEP 8014: The Commons Governance Model 
(Jansen)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8014/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 50–9
  - loses to PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community (Stinner) by 38–18

6. [PEP 8010: The Technical Leader Governance Model 
(Warsaw)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8010/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 44–15
  - loses to PEP 8014: The Commons Governance Model (Jansen) by 30–28

7. [PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model 
(Dower)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8013/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 55–6
  - loses to PEP 8010: The Technical Leader Governance Model (Warsaw) by 38–17

8. Further discussion
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 57–4
  - loses to PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model (Dower) by 32–29

### Result details

|          | PEP 8016 | PEP 8012 | PEP 8011 | PEP 8015 | PEP 8014 | PEP 8010 | 
PEP 8013 |Discussion|
|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|
| PEP 8016 | - |40 |37 |41 |50 |44 |55 |57 |
| PEP 8012 |22 | - |34 |33 |40 |40 |48 |48 |
| PEP 8011 |20 |28 | - |33 |42 |42 |52 |51 |
| PEP 8015 |18 |22 |24 | - |38 |36 |47 |48 |
| PEP 8014 | 9 |18 |16 |18 | - |30 |40 |38 |
| PEP 8010 |15 |20 |14 |22 |28 | - |38 |43 |
| PEP 8013 | 6 | 9 | 9 |12 |14 |17 | - |32 |
|Discussion| 4 |14 |10 |13 |23 |18 |29 | - |

### Ballot report

 Choices

- - 0. PEP 8010: The Technical Leader Governance Model (Warsaw) (changelog)
- - 1. PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas (Wijaya, 
Warsaw) (changelog
- - 2. PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model (Langa) (changelog)
- - 3. PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model (Dower) (changelog)
- - 4. PEP 8014: The Commons Governance Model (Jansen) (changelog)
- - 5. PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community (Stinner) (changelog)
- - 6. PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) (changelog)
- - 7. Further discussion

 Ballots in randomized order

|0.|1.|2.|3.|4.|5.|6.|7.|
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|8|5|1|7|4|3|2|6|
|8|3|2|4|6|5|1|7|
|6|1|4|7|5|3|3|8|
|3|2|7|5|4|6|1|8|
|2|1|4|6|8|5|3|7|
|7|2|3|6|4|7|1|5|
|8|8|1|3|2|8|3|4|
|6|1|2|8|4|3|5|7|
|6|1|8|8|8|3|6|7|
|6|1|2|7|4|3|5|8|
|1|2|6|5|7|4|3|8|
|1|5|7|6|3|8|2|4|
|2|1|5|8|8|8|6|7|
|4|4|3|2|4|4|4|1|
|2|1|6|8|5|7|4|3|
|4|3|8|7|6|1|2|5|
|8|3|4|8|8|4|1|7|
|2|1|8|6|4|7|3|5|
|3|7|1|8|5|4|2|6|
|6|4|3|7|2|5|1|8|
|8|4|3|6|7|1|2|5|
|8|4|1|8|8|3|2|5|
|2|5|1|6|7|4|3|8|
|6|5|1|8|4|3|2|7|
|8|3|2|7|4|5|1|6|
|1|4|2|7|8|3|5|6|
|7|1|6|7|1|6|1|8|
|4|5|3|6|6|2|1|8|
|1|2|7|8|6|4|3|5|
|7|6|3|5|4|2|1|8|
|7|2|4|6|3|5|1|8|
|8|1|4|6|5|3|2|7|
|4|2|4|4|3|2|1|8|
|5|4|3|7|6|1|2|8|
|5|2|1|7|3|4|2|8|
|6|1|4|7|5|2|3|8|
|1|5|3|2|4|8|6|7|
|5|2|4|8|7|6|1|3|
|7|3|2|4|1|6|5|8|
|5|5|4|7|4|4|3|8|
|1|2|7|8|5|3|6|4|
|8|4|2|8|1|2|3|8|
|5|4|3|7|6|1|2|8|
|3|2|8|8|8|4|1|7|
|8|4|1|7|6|2|3|5|
|7|1|5|8|3|6|2|4|
|5|4|3|6|7|2|1|8|
|3|2|4|7|6|5|1|8|
|3|6|5|8|7|2|1|4|
|1|5|4|8|7|2|3|6|
|6|5|1|7|4|2|3|8|
|8|6|1|4|7|2|3|5|
|1|2|8|4|7|6|5|3|
|6|6|5|3|4|1|2|8|
|1|1|6|7|6|6|1|8|
|8|8|1|8|8|8|2|3|
|8|5|2|6|6|2|1|4|
|8|7|2|4|6|3|1|5|

Re: [python-committers] Python governance vote (December 2018): Results

2018-12-17 Thread Victor Stinner
Congrats Nathaniel :-) So, what's the next step? Create a steering
council of 5 persons?

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8016/#electing-the-council

Any timeline for that?

Victor

Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 14:53, [email protected]  a écrit :
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>
> # Python governance vote (December 2018)
>
> As described in [PEP 8001](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8001/), the 
> governance election has been completed.
>
> The result is that **[PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, 
> Stufft)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8016/) has been selected as the 
> winner**.
>
> - - Supervisor: Ernest W. Durbin III 
> - - Announced end of poll: 2018-12-17T12:00:00Z
> - - Actual time poll closed: 2018-12-17T12:00:02Z
> - - Authorized voters: 94 ([CPython core developers with a known 
> email-address](https://github.com/python/voters/blob/bb4bceda896c38177e6d9c3c2437f63a5edb23dc/2018-12-01-governance-election.csv))
> - - Actual votes cast: 62
> - - Number of winning choices: 1
> - - [Condorcet completion rule](https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/rp.html): Minimax
>
> ## Result
>
> 1. **[PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, 
> Stufft)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8016/)**
>   - (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices)
>
> 2. [PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model 
> (Langa)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8012/)
>   - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 40–22
>
> 3. [PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas (Wijaya, 
> Warsaw)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8011/)
>   - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 37–20
>   - loses to PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model (Langa) by 34–28
>
> 4. [PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community 
> (Stinner)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8015/)
>   - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft)by 41–18
>   - loses to PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas 
> (Wijaya, Warsaw) by 33–24
>
> 5. [PEP 8014: The Commons Governance Model 
> (Jansen)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8014/)
>   - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 50–9
>   - loses to PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community (Stinner) by 38–18
>
> 6. [PEP 8010: The Technical Leader Governance Model 
> (Warsaw)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8010/)
>   - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 44–15
>   - loses to PEP 8014: The Commons Governance Model (Jansen) by 30–28
>
> 7. [PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model 
> (Dower)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8013/)
>   - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 55–6
>   - loses to PEP 8010: The Technical Leader Governance Model (Warsaw) by 38–17
>
> 8. Further discussion
>   - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 57–4
>   - loses to PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model (Dower) by 32–29
>
> ### Result details
>
> |  | PEP 8016 | PEP 8012 | PEP 8011 | PEP 8015 | PEP 8014 | PEP 8010 
> | PEP 8013 |Discussion|
> |--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|
> | PEP 8016 | - |40 |37 |41 |50 |44 |55 |57 |
> | PEP 8012 |22 | - |34 |33 |40 |40 |48 |48 |
> | PEP 8011 |20 |28 | - |33 |42 |42 |52 |51 |
> | PEP 8015 |18 |22 |24 | - |38 |36 |47 |48 |
> | PEP 8014 | 9 |18 |16 |18 | - |30 |40 |38 |
> | PEP 8010 |15 |20 |14 |22 |28 | - |38 |43 |
> | PEP 8013 | 6 | 9 | 9 |12 |14 |17 | - |32 |
> |Discussion| 4 |14 |10 |13 |23 |18 |29 | - |
>
> ### Ballot report
>
>  Choices
>
> - - 0. PEP 8010: The Technical Leader Governance Model (Warsaw) (changelog)
> - - 1. PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas (Wijaya, 
> Warsaw) (changelog
> - - 2. PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model (Langa) (changelog)
> - - 3. PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model (Dower) (changelog)
> - - 4. PEP 8014: The Commons Governance Model (Jansen) (changelog)
> - - 5. PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community (Stinner) (changelog)
> - - 6. PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) (changelog)
> - - 7. Further discussion
>
>  Ballots in randomized order
>
> |0.|1.|2.|3.|4.|5.|6.|7.|
> |---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
> |8|5|1|7|4|3|2|6|
> |8|3|2|4|6|5|1|7|
> |6|1|4|7|5|3|3|8|
> |3|2|7|5|4|6|1|8|
> |2|1|4|6|8|5|3|7|
> |7|2|3|6|4|7|1|5|
> |8|8|1|3|2|8|3|4|
> |6|1|2|8|4|3|5|7|
> |6|1|8|8|8|3|6|7|
> |6|1|2|7|4|3|5|8|
> |1|2|6|5|7|4|3|8|
> |1|5|7|6|3|8|2|4|
> |2|1|5|8|8|8|6|7|
> |4|4|3|2|4|4|4|1|
> |2|1|6|8|5|7|4|3|
> |4|3|8|7|6|1|2|5|
> |8|3|4|8|8|4|1|7|
> |2|1|8|6|4|7|3|5|
> |3|7|1|8|5|4|2|6|
> |6|4|3|7|2|5|1|8|
> |8|4|3|6|7|1|2|5|
> |8|4|1|8|8|3|2|5|
> |2|5|1|6|7|4|3|8|
> |6|5|1|8|4|3|2|7|
> |8|3|2|7|4|5|1|6|
> |1|4|2|7|8|3|5|6|
> |7|1|6|7|1|6|1|8|
> |4|5|3|6|6|2|1|8|
> |1|2|7|8|6|4|3|5|
> |7|6|3|5|4|2|1|8|
> |7|2|4|6|3|5|1|8|
> |8|1|4|6

Re: [python-committers] Python governance vote (December 2018): Results

2018-12-17 Thread [email protected]
Full results are also auditable directly at 
https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_fe2b74aea628b45d

-Ernest W. Durbin III
On December 17, 2018 at 8:53:04 AM, [email protected] ([email protected]) wrote:


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# Python governance vote (December 2018)

As described in [PEP 8001](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8001/), the 
governance election has been completed.

The result is that **[PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, 
Stufft)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8016/) has been selected as the 
winner**.

- - Supervisor: Ernest W. Durbin III 
- - Announced end of poll: 2018-12-17T12:00:00Z
- - Actual time poll closed: 2018-12-17T12:00:02Z
- - Authorized voters: 94 ([CPython core developers with a known 
email-address](https://github.com/python/voters/blob/bb4bceda896c38177e6d9c3c2437f63a5edb23dc/2018-12-01-governance-election.csv))
- - Actual votes cast: 62
- - Number of winning choices: 1
- - [Condorcet completion rule](https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/rp.html): Minimax

## Result

1. **[PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, 
Stufft)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8016/)**
  - (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices)

2. [PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model 
(Langa)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8012/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 40–22

3. [PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas (Wijaya, 
Warsaw)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8011/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 37–20
  - loses to PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model (Langa) by 34–28

4. [PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community 
(Stinner)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8015/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft)by 41–18
  - loses to PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas 
(Wijaya, Warsaw) by 33–24

5. [PEP 8014: The Commons Governance Model 
(Jansen)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8014/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 50–9
  - loses to PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community (Stinner) by 38–18

6. [PEP 8010: The Technical Leader Governance Model 
(Warsaw)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8010/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 44–15
  - loses to PEP 8014: The Commons Governance Model (Jansen) by 30–28

7. [PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model 
(Dower)](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8013/)
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 55–6
  - loses to PEP 8010: The Technical Leader Governance Model (Warsaw) by 38–17

8. Further discussion
  - loses to PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) by 57–4
  - loses to PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model (Dower) by 32–29

### Result details

|          | PEP 8016 | PEP 8012 | PEP 8011 | PEP 8015 | PEP 8014 | PEP 8010 | 
PEP 8013 |Discussion|
|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|
| PEP 8016 | - |40 |37 |41 |50 |44 |55 |57 |
| PEP 8012 |22 | - |34 |33 |40 |40 |48 |48 |
| PEP 8011 |20 |28 | - |33 |42 |42 |52 |51 |
| PEP 8015 |18 |22 |24 | - |38 |36 |47 |48 |
| PEP 8014 | 9 |18 |16 |18 | - |30 |40 |38 |
| PEP 8010 |15 |20 |14 |22 |28 | - |38 |43 |
| PEP 8013 | 6 | 9 | 9 |12 |14 |17 | - |32 |
|Discussion| 4 |14 |10 |13 |23 |18 |29 | - |

### Ballot report

 Choices

- - 0. PEP 8010: The Technical Leader Governance Model (Warsaw) (changelog)
- - 1. PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas (Wijaya, 
Warsaw) (changelog
- - 2. PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model (Langa) (changelog)
- - 3. PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model (Dower) (changelog)
- - 4. PEP 8014: The Commons Governance Model (Jansen) (changelog)
- - 5. PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community (Stinner) (changelog)
- - 6. PEP 8016: The Steering Council Model (Smith, Stufft) (changelog)
- - 7. Further discussion

 Ballots in randomized order

|0.|1.|2.|3.|4.|5.|6.|7.|
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|8|5|1|7|4|3|2|6|
|8|3|2|4|6|5|1|7|
|6|1|4|7|5|3|3|8|
|3|2|7|5|4|6|1|8|
|2|1|4|6|8|5|3|7|
|7|2|3|6|4|7|1|5|
|8|8|1|3|2|8|3|4|
|6|1|2|8|4|3|5|7|
|6|1|8|8|8|3|6|7|
|6|1|2|7|4|3|5|8|
|1|2|6|5|7|4|3|8|
|1|5|7|6|3|8|2|4|
|2|1|5|8|8|8|6|7|
|4|4|3|2|4|4|4|1|
|2|1|6|8|5|7|4|3|
|4|3|8|7|6|1|2|5|
|8|3|4|8|8|4|1|7|
|2|1|8|6|4|7|3|5|
|3|7|1|8|5|4|2|6|
|6|4|3|7|2|5|1|8|
|8|4|3|6|7|1|2|5|
|8|4|1|8|8|3|2|5|
|2|5|1|6|7|4|3|8|
|6|5|1|8|4|3|2|7|
|8|3|2|7|4|5|1|6|
|1|4|2|7|8|3|5|6|
|7|1|6|7|1|6|1|8|
|4|5|3|6|6|2|1|8|
|1|2|7|8|6|4|3|5|
|7|6|3|5|4|2|1|8|
|7|2|4|6|3|5|1|8|
|8|1|4|6|5|3|2|7|
|4|2|4|4|3|2|1|8|
|5|4|3|7|6|1|2|8|
|5|2|1|7|3|4|2|8|
|6|1|4|7|5|2|3|8|
|1|5|3|2|4|8|6|7|
|5|2|4|8|7|6|1|3|
|7|3|2|4|1|6|5|8|
|5|5|4|7|4|4|3|8|
|1|2|7|8|5|3|6|4|
|8|4|2|8|1|2|3|8|
|5|4|3|7|6|1|2|8|
|3|2|8|8|8|4|1|7|
|8|4|1|7|6|2|3|5|
|7|1|5|8|3|6|2|

Re: [python-committers] Licences for PyCharm and other JetBrains products

2018-12-17 Thread Andrew Svetlov
Vinaj, hi.

Could I get a PyCharm license?

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:33 PM Vinay Sajip via python-committers <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Recently I received 20 one-year licenses from JetBrains for the PyCharm
> IDE (Professional) and other JetBrains products (the licenses cover their
> "All Products Pack") for use in Python development. There are 11 licenses
> available - of the licenses I asked for last year, nine people took them
> up, so those are in use and come out of the allocation of 20.
>
> Those of you who took up the licences last time should find that the tools
> continue to work normally. The licences expire on 27 November 2018.
>
> If any others of you are interested in using these licenses, let me know
> off-list and I will forward the license access details to you. To access
> the licenses, you will need to have (or create) a JetBrains account.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vinay Sajip
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