Re: [Python-Dev] r64407 - python/trunk/Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst

2008-06-20 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:55:13AM -0700, Bill Janssen wrote:
  Is anyone else finding it increasingly odd that subprocess, signal,
  socket/ssl, and syncore are in the same chapter?  I'm tempted to move
  socket, ssl, asyncore+asynchat into a 'networking' chapter, and then
  also move SocketServer from the 'Internet Protocols' chapter into this
  new chapter.
 
 Sounds like you mean, 'Non-HTTP Networking'.

I don't think so -- SMTP, FTP, NNTP, and telnet have nothing
to do with HTTP, but they're certainly Internet protocols.

--amk
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Re: [Python-Dev] r64407 - python/trunk/Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst

2008-06-20 Thread Bill Janssen
 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:55:13AM -0700, Bill Janssen wrote:
   Is anyone else finding it increasingly odd that subprocess, signal,
   socket/ssl, and syncore are in the same chapter?  I'm tempted to move
   socket, ssl, asyncore+asynchat into a 'networking' chapter, and then
   also move SocketServer from the 'Internet Protocols' chapter into this
   new chapter.
  
  Sounds like you mean, 'Non-HTTP Networking'.
 
 I don't think so -- SMTP, FTP, NNTP, and telnet have nothing
 to do with HTTP, but they're certainly Internet protocols.

Sure, but there's typically only one protocol that's carried over any
of them.  Whereas with REST and XML-RPC and so forth, there's a whole
cottage industry of using HTTP as a carrier, in much the same way that
TCP is used at a lower level.

But you're right: there's Networking / Generic Support, Networking
/ Specific Protocols, and Networking / HTTP-based, or some such.

Bill
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Re: [Python-Dev] r64407 - python/trunk/Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst

2008-06-20 Thread Steve Holden

A.M. Kuchling wrote:

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:55:13AM -0700, Bill Janssen wrote:

Is anyone else finding it increasingly odd that subprocess, signal,
socket/ssl, and syncore are in the same chapter?  I'm tempted to move
socket, ssl, asyncore+asynchat into a 'networking' chapter, and then
also move SocketServer from the 'Internet Protocols' chapter into this
new chapter.

Sounds like you mean, 'Non-HTTP Networking'.


I don't think so -- SMTP, FTP, NNTP, and telnet have nothing
to do with HTTP, but they're certainly Internet protocols.

Perhaps we need a split between networking technologies and 
network-based applications.


regards
 Steve
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Holden Web LLC  http://www.holdenweb.com/

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Re: [Python-Dev] r64407 - python/trunk/Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst

2008-06-20 Thread Fred Drake

On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Steve Holden wrote:
Perhaps we need a split between networking technologies and  
network-based applications.



Perhaps that would help.

I certainly see HTTP as being on the same layer as SMTP and the like,  
but application protocols that ride on top of HTTP are a different  
beast.



  -Fred

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