Re: [Python-Dev] r64407 - python/trunk/Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst

2008-06-20 Thread Fred Drake

On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Steve Holden wrote:
Perhaps we need a split between "networking technologies" and  
"network-based applications".



Perhaps that would help.

I certainly see HTTP as being on the same layer as SMTP and the like,  
but application protocols that ride on top of HTTP are a different  
beast.



  -Fred

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Re: [Python-Dev] r64407 - python/trunk/Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst

2008-06-20 Thread Steve Holden

A.M. Kuchling wrote:

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:55:13AM -0700, Bill Janssen wrote:

Is anyone else finding it increasingly odd that subprocess, signal,
socket/ssl, and syncore are in the same chapter?  I'm tempted to move
socket, ssl, asyncore+asynchat into a 'networking' chapter, and then
also move SocketServer from the 'Internet Protocols' chapter into this
new chapter.

Sounds like you mean, 'Non-HTTP Networking'.


I don't think so -- SMTP, FTP, NNTP, and telnet have nothing
to do with HTTP, but they're certainly Internet protocols.

Perhaps we need a split between "networking technologies" and 
"network-based applications".


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 Steve
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Re: [Python-Dev] r64407 - python/trunk/Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst

2008-06-20 Thread Bill Janssen
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:55:13AM -0700, Bill Janssen wrote:
> > > Is anyone else finding it increasingly odd that subprocess, signal,
> > > socket/ssl, and syncore are in the same chapter?  I'm tempted to move
> > > socket, ssl, asyncore+asynchat into a 'networking' chapter, and then
> > > also move SocketServer from the 'Internet Protocols' chapter into this
> > > new chapter.
> > 
> > Sounds like you mean, 'Non-HTTP Networking'.
> 
> I don't think so -- SMTP, FTP, NNTP, and telnet have nothing
> to do with HTTP, but they're certainly Internet protocols.

Sure, but there's typically only one protocol that's carried over any
of them.  Whereas with REST and XML-RPC and so forth, there's a whole
cottage industry of using HTTP as a carrier, in much the same way that
TCP is used at a lower level.

But you're right: there's "Networking / Generic Support", "Networking
/ Specific Protocols", and "Networking / HTTP-based", or some such.

Bill
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Re: [Python-Dev] r64407 - python/trunk/Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst

2008-06-20 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:55:13AM -0700, Bill Janssen wrote:
> > Is anyone else finding it increasingly odd that subprocess, signal,
> > socket/ssl, and syncore are in the same chapter?  I'm tempted to move
> > socket, ssl, asyncore+asynchat into a 'networking' chapter, and then
> > also move SocketServer from the 'Internet Protocols' chapter into this
> > new chapter.
> 
> Sounds like you mean, 'Non-HTTP Networking'.

I don't think so -- SMTP, FTP, NNTP, and telnet have nothing
to do with HTTP, but they're certainly Internet protocols.

--amk
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