Re: Website data-mining.

2007-08-03 Thread Jay Loden
Miki wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>> I'm using Python for the first time to make a plug-in for Firefox.
>> The goal of this plug-in is to take the source code from a website
>> and use the metadata and body text for different kinds of analysis.
>> My question is: How can I retrieve data from a website? I'm not even
>> sure if this is possible through Python. Any help?
> Have a look at 
> http://www.myinterestingfiles.com/2007/03/playboy-germany-ads.html

Well, it's certainly interesting, but I'm not sure how it might help the OP get 
data from a website...

> for getting the data and at http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/
> for handling it.
> 
> HTH.
> 
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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread James Stroud
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Hmm, it's a pain that there's no clean way to get at the current
> module.  PEP 3130 shows some icky and unreliable ways, e.g.
> 
>func = getattr(sys.modules[__name__], 'f')
> 
> PEP 3130's goal was to add a clean way to do this.  Unfortunately it
> was rejected.

Yes, this is the essence of the problem. At least I'm not the only one 
to have needed (or at least wanted) this.

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Re: Help: GIS

2007-08-03 Thread zxo102
On 8 3 ,   9 34 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Aug 2, 10:46 pm, zxo102 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I am new in GIS area and need your suggestions for where I can
> > start from.  I have a python based web application with a database.
> > Now I would like to add a GIS map into my application. When a user
> > clicks a certain area in the GIS map, it can grab the data from the
> > database via my python based application. Do I have to use MapServer
> > or Grass or some other  backends for this purpose?
> >Thanks  a lot.
>
> > Ouyang
>
> While I am not a part of our GIS department, they use ArcGIS which has
> Python support built in. If that's what you're using, you should be
> able to use the examples given on ESRI's 
> website:http://www.spatialvision.com.au/html/tips-python-arc9.htm
>
> Hmmm...not much there. Here are some other links I found:
>
> http://nrm.salrm.uaf.edu/~dverbyla/arcgis_python/index.htmlhttp://www.ollivier.co.nz/publication/uc2004/python_workshop/sld008.htmhttp://www.3dartist.com/WP/python/pycode.htm
>
> I don't know if these will be much help. You really need to just dig
> in and start coding. I would recommend "Programming Python 3rd Ed." by
> Lutz if you want something in hard copy. "Dive Into Python" is a free
> book that's online that I'm told is very good. Both have good
> examples, some of which are involved. All the web oriented Python
> books are a few years old, but the code in them still works, for the
> most part.
>
> Mike

Mike, Thanks for your suggestion. I am looking for a python GIS
package (without any other GIS backends like mapserver) which can be
simply imported into my current python web application. I am not sure
if it is available. So far, the close one I found is Python
Cartographic Lab. But I can not find any examples for PCL. Anyway, I
am still on the way of the deep learning curve for GIS.

Ouyang
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Re: Website data-mining.

2007-08-03 Thread Miki
Hello,

> I'm using Python for the first time to make a plug-in for Firefox.
> The goal of this plug-in is to take the source code from a website
> and use the metadata and body text for different kinds of analysis.
> My question is: How can I retrieve data from a website? I'm not even
> sure if this is possible through Python. Any help?
Have a look at 
http://www.myinterestingfiles.com/2007/03/playboy-germany-ads.html
for getting the data and at http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/
for handling it.

HTH.

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Re: regexp problem in Python

2007-08-03 Thread Ehsan
On Aug 4, 1:36 am, Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 3, 4:41 pm, Ehsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I want to find "http://www.2shared.com/download/1716611/e2000f22/
> [...]
> > I use this pattern :
> > "http.*?\.(wmv|3gp).*""
>
> > but it returns only 'wmv' and '3gp' instead of "http://www.2shared.com/
> > download/1716611/e2000f22/Jadeed_Mlak14.wmv?
> > tsid=20070803-164051-9d637d11"
>
> > what can I do? what's wrong whit this pattern? thanx for your comments
>
> Just a guess, based on too little information: Try "(http.*?\.(wmv|
> 3gp).*)"
>
> Regards,
>
>-=Dave

no, it doesn't work

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Re: Trying to find zip codes/rest example

2007-08-03 Thread Jay Loden
VanL wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> A couple months ago there was an example posted in a blog of a rest 
> interface for validating zip codes.  If I recall correctly, the backend 
> validator was written in python.
> 
> The validator demo page had a single text input; next to the text input 
> would appear either a green check or a red X depending on whether the 
> zip code was valid.
> 
> On the backend, the explanation of the demo included a discussion of 
> using HTTP status codes (200 for a valid zip, 406? for invalid) so that 
> the service could be used from a console as well.
> 
> I now cannot find this demo and the associated discussion.  Does anybody 
> remember this demo and where I might be able to find it?

I don't remember the demo, but a little creative googling turned up

http://bitworking.org/news/132/REST-Tips-URI-space-is-infinite

Which matches the description above perfectly, so I assume it's what you were 
after :-)

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Re: Script that Navigates Page needs Javascript Functionality

2007-08-03 Thread 7stud
On Aug 3, 7:58 pm, SMERSH009 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a script that navigates pages and scrapes the HTML source of
> the page.
> in order to view the results I need I need python to "navigate to"
> this Javascript link:
> javascript:__doPostBack('ctl00$cpMain$pagerTop','4')  This basically
> translates into "go to page 4."
> I read the posts on this group, and from what I understand, the
> functionality I need is with simplejson? If so, what is the syntax i
> would use to execute that Javascript?
> Or am I completely off base with using simplejson altogether?
>
> Thanks for the help
> -Sam

json is a specific way of formatting strings.  If an application
expects to receive a string as input and the string is supposed be
formatted according to json, then you need to send the app a json
formatted string.

>From the brief description I just read of simplejson, it allows you to
convert python objects to a string.  What makes you think that
simplejson has anything to do with executing javascript code?

When html pages are sent to a browser, there is software in the
browser that executes any javascript on the page.  If you use python
to download source code from a server, you are not loading anything in
a browser, so no javascript executes.

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Re: bias in random.normalvariate??

2007-08-03 Thread Robert Kern
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm a Python newbie and certainly no expert on statistics, but my wife
> was taking a statistics course this summer and to illustrate that
> sampling random numbers from a distribution and taking an average of
> the samples gives you a random number as the result (bigger sample ->
> smaller variance in the calculated random number, converging in on the
> mean of the original distribution), I threw together this program:
> 
> #! /usr/bin/python
> 
> import random;
> 
> i=1
> samplen=100
> mean=130
> lo=mean
> hi=mean
> sd=10
> sum=0
> while(i<=samplen):
>   x=random.normalvariate(mean,sd)
>   #print x
>   if x   if x>hi: high=x
>   sum+=x
>   i+=1
> print 'sample mean=', sum/samplen, '\n'
> print 'low value =', lo
> print 'high value=', high

Your code has an error. In the middle of your code, you changed "hi" to "high".

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Weekly Python Patch/Bug Summary

2007-08-03 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
Patch / Bug Summary
___

Patches :  404 open ( +5) /  3847 closed (+11) /  4251 total (+16)
Bugs: 1059 open ( +3) /  6784 closed ( +8) /  7843 total (+11)
RFE :  263 open ( +0) /   295 closed ( +1) /   558 total ( +1)

New / Reopened Patches
__

struni: Fix test_aepack by converting 4cc's to bytes  (2007-07-26)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1761465  reopened by  gvanrossum

distutils.util.get_platform() return value on 64bit Windows  (2007-07-27)
   http://python.org/sf/1761786  opened by  Mark Hammond

Some fix abount _WIN32_WINNT  (2007-07-27)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1761803  opened by  Hirokazu Yamamoto

struni: test_xml_etree.py  (2007-07-27)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1762412  opened by  Joe Gregorio

unable to serialize Infinity or NaN on ARM using marshal  (2007-07-28)
   http://python.org/sf/1762561  opened by  Matthias Klose

struni: test_urllib2, test_cookielib  (2007-07-29)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1762940  opened by  Joe Gregorio

socket close fixed  (2007-07-29)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1763387  opened by  Hasan Diwan

tiny addition to peephole optimizer  (2007-07-31)
   http://python.org/sf/1764087  opened by  Paul Pogonyshev

Fix for test_socketserver for Py3k  (2007-07-31)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1764815  opened by  ??PC??

generic and more efficient removal of unreachable code  (2007-08-01)
   http://python.org/sf/1764986  opened by  Paul Pogonyshev

logging: delay_fh option and configuration kwargs  (2007-08-01)
   http://python.org/sf/1765140  opened by  Chris Leary

small improvement for peephole conditional jump optimizer  (2007-08-01)
   http://python.org/sf/1765558  opened by  Paul Pogonyshev

urllib2-howto - correction  (2007-08-02)
   http://python.org/sf/1765839  opened by  O.R.Senthil Kumaran

improve xrange.__contains__  (2007-08-02)
   http://python.org/sf/1766304  opened by  Stargaming

Fix for test_zipimport  (2007-08-03)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1766592  opened by  ??PC??

Make xmlrpc use HTTP/1.1 and keepalive  (2007-08-04)
   http://python.org/sf/1767370  opened by  Donovan Baarda

test_csv struni fixes + unicode support in _csv  (2007-08-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1767398  opened by  Adam Hupp

Patches Closed
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struni: Fix test_aepack by converting 4cc's to bytes  (2007-07-26)
   http://python.org/sf/1761465  closed by  gvanrossum

struni: Fix test_aepack by converting 4cc's to bytes  (2007-07-26)
   http://python.org/sf/1761465  closed by  gvanrossum

Some fix abount _WIN32_WINNT  (2007-07-27)
   http://python.org/sf/1761803  closed by  mhammond

struni pulldom: Don't use 'types' to check strings  (2007-07-24)
   http://python.org/sf/1759922  closed by  gvanrossum

struni: test_xml_etree.py  (2007-07-27)
   http://python.org/sf/1762412  closed by  loewis

struni: test_urllib2, test_cookielib  (2007-07-28)
   http://python.org/sf/1762940  closed by  gvanrossum

socket close fixed  (2007-07-30)
   http://python.org/sf/1763387  closed by  facundobatista

itertools.getitem()  (2007-07-08)
   http://python.org/sf/1749857  closed by  rhettinger

Fix for test_socketserver for Py3k  (2007-07-31)
   http://python.org/sf/1764815  closed by  gvanrossum

Fix Decimal.sqrt bugs described in #1725899  (2007-06-22)
   http://python.org/sf/1741308  closed by  facundobatista

Fix for test_zipimport  (2007-08-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1766592  closed by  gvanrossum

urllib2 tests pass  (2007-07-16)
   http://python.org/sf/1755133  closed by  gvanrossum

New / Reopened Bugs
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'exec' does not accept what 'open' returns  (2007-07-28)
   http://python.org/sf/1762972  opened by  Brett Cannon

S.find documentation uses s[start, end] vs. s[start:end]  (2007-07-29)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1763149  opened by  Rob

copy 2  (2007-07-30)
   http://python.org/sf/1764044  opened by  robs pythonid

_RLock.__repr__ throws exception  (2007-07-30)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1764059  opened by  Greg Kochanski

The -m switch does not use the builtin __main__ module  (2007-07-31)
   http://python.org/sf/1764407  opened by  Nick Coghlan

Decimal comparison with None fails in Windows  (2007-07-31)
CLOSED http://python.org/sf/1764761  opened by  pablohoffman.com

setup.py trashes LDFLAGS  (2007-08-01)
   http://python.org/sf/1765375  opened by  Harald Koenig

poll() returns "status code", not "return code"  (2007-08-02)
   http://python.org/sf/1766421  opened by  sjbrown

os.chmod failure  (2007-08-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1767242  reopened by  rgheck

os.chmod failure  (2007-08-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1767242  opened by  Richard Heck

String.capwords() does not capitalize first word  (2007-08-03)
   http://python.org/sf/1767363  opened by  Saatvik Agarwal

Bugs Closed
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No docs for list comparison  (2007-07-25)
   http://python.org/sf/1760423  closed by  gbrandl

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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Rubin
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'll point at the difficulty in using getattr for extracting a function
> from the current module:
> >>> func = getattr(???, 'f') # what should go there?

Hmm, it's a pain that there's no clean way to get at the current
module.  PEP 3130 shows some icky and unreliable ways, e.g.

   func = getattr(sys.modules[__name__], 'f')

PEP 3130's goal was to add a clean way to do this.  Unfortunately it
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Re: (no) fast boolean evaluation ?

2007-08-03 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Ian Clark wrote:
> Stef Mientki wrote:
>> hello,
>>
>> I discovered that boolean evaluation in Python is done "fast"
>> (as soon as the condition is ok, the rest of the expression is ignored).
>>
>> Is this standard behavior or is there a compiler switch to turn it 
>> on/off ?
> 
> It's called short circuit evaluation and as far as I know it's standard 
> in most all languages. This only occurs if a conditional evaluates to 
> True and the only other operators that still need to be evaluated are 
> 'or's or the condition evaluates to False and all the other operators 
> are 'and's. The reason is those other operators will never change the 
> outcome: True or'd with any number of False's will still be True and 
> False and'ed to any number of Trues will still be False.
> 
> My question would be why would you *not* want this?

Pascal, and apparently Fortran, do not use short-circuit evaluation.  I 
remember learning this gotcha in my seventh-grade Pascal class (plus I 
just googled it to make sure my memory was correct!).

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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:06:23 -0700, James Stroud wrote:

> Its very close. However, there is the possibiltiy that main.py and 
> UserDefined1.py are the same module. In such a case I'm guessing that I 
> need to resort to the gymnastics of frame inspection I mentioned 
> earlier. 


I suggest you're falling for the anti-pattern of "Big Design Up Front",
and are overly complicating your system "just in case it's useful". Why
not just _insist_ that main.py and UserDefined1.py must be different
modules? You're the application developer, you're allowed to do that.


> The problem is when this combination of possibilities exists:
> 
> 1. main.py is named without the .py (e.g. `main`) as would be
>the convention for "programs"), and is not a true python
>module as a result--perhaps python has a mechanism for
>importing such files?

I don't believe it does.


> 2. foo is defined in `main`

Maybe you should just prohibit that? Do you really want to allow users to
call arbitrary code in your main application at arbitrary times and places?

Maybe you do. Okay, it's your gun and your foot.

But in any case, it shouldn't matter. main is the program running -- it
has to be, because you can't import it from another program -- so
globals()['foo'] will work.


> Possibility two (even when it is a properly named module) sets the stage 
> for a circular import, but I believe in python this is not entirely 
> worrisome. However, the combination above makes it difficult to pass a 
> reference to the `main` namespace without some sort of introspection. 

That's what globals() is for.


> Ideally, I would prefer to not require the user to provide some mapping 
> as it detracts from the convenience of the API. For example:
> 
> from UserDefined1 import some_function
> def foo(): [etc.]
> def doit(): [etc.]
> mapping = {
> 'foo' : foo,
> 'doit' : doit,
> 'some_function' : some_function
>   }
> 
> The idea would be that the above mapping would be specified in the 
> configuration file:
> 
> [foo]
> param1 = float
> param2 = 4
> 
> [option1]
> __module__ = 'UserDefined1'
> __function__ = 'doit'


I'm not sure why you need the quotation marks around the module and
function names. What else could UserDefined1 be, other than a string?


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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:45:21 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:

> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> namespace = module.__dict__
>> return namespace[name]
> 
> Am I missing something?  It's likely that I just don't understand
> the problem, but I don't understand these dictionary extractions
> for what I thought would be an attribute lookup:

Well, the *real* reason I used a __dict__ extraction was because I didn't
think of using getattr at the time, but as a post facto justification,
I'll point at the difficulty in using getattr for extracting a function
from the current module:

>>> def f(x):
... return x + 1
... 
>>> func = getattr(???, 'f') # what should go there?


Maybe I've just got a blind spot, but I can't think of a way to use
getattr to get something from the current module. That would lead to
something like this:


def get_function_from_name(name, module=None):
if module is None:
return globals()[name] # or use locals()
else: 
return getattr(name, module)

which is fine, I suppose, and I would have used it earlier if I had
thought of it *wink*


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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread James Stroud
Paul Rubin wrote:
> James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>>  ModuleBehavior
>>   ==  
>>UserDefined1   Imports FunctionUser
>>ThirdParty Contains User Functions (May be ==UserDefined1)
>>FunctionUser   do_something_with() and/or get_function_from_name()
>>
>>So the name-to-function mapping is done in FunctionUser but the
>>function is actually defined in UserDefined1 (or ThirdParty if
>>ThirdParty is different than UserDefined1).
> 
> 
> I'm still completely confused.  Does FunctionUser know what module the
> user functions are supposed to come from?  Could you give an example
> of what you want the actual contents of those 3 modules to look like?
> E.g.:
> 
> UserDefined1.py:
>   import FunctionUser
> 
>   def foo(x):
>   print x+3
> 
> FunctionUser.py:
>def do_something_with (module, funcname, *args, **kw):
>  func = getattr(module, funcname)
>  func (*args, **kw)
> 
> main.py:
>import UserDefined1, FunctionUser
> 
># the following should print 10
>FunctionUser.do_something_with(UserDefined1, 'foo', 7)
> 
> I don't think the above is quite what you want, but is it somewhere
> close?

Its very close. However, there is the possibiltiy that main.py and 
UserDefined1.py are the same module. In such a case I'm guessing that I 
need to resort to the gymnastics of frame inspection I mentioned 
earlier. The problem is when this combination of possibilities exists:

1. main.py is named without the .py (e.g. `main`) as would be
   the convention for "programs"), and is not a true python
   module as a result--perhaps python has a mechanism for
   importing such files?
2. foo is defined in `main`

Possibility two (even when it is a properly named module) sets the stage 
for a circular import, but I believe in python this is not entirely 
worrisome. However, the combination above makes it difficult to pass a 
reference to the `main` namespace without some sort of introspection. 
Ideally, I would prefer to not require the user to provide some mapping 
as it detracts from the convenience of the API. For example:

from UserDefined1 import some_function
def foo(): [etc.]
def doit(): [etc.]
mapping = {
'foo' : foo,
'doit' : doit,
'some_function' : some_function
  }

The idea would be that the above mapping would be specified in the 
configuration file:

[foo]
param1 = float
param2 = 4

[option1]
__module__ = 'UserDefined1'
__function__ = 'doit'
param1 = str
param2 = 30.0

[doit]
param1 = float
param2 = float

[etc.]

James


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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread James Stroud
Carsten Haese wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 18:31 -0700, James Stroud wrote:
>>Carsten Haese wrote:
>>You sound like my former thesis adviser.
> 
> 
> Thanks. I guess.

Yes, its a compliment in disguise--just check his CV.

>>OK. From an external source, such as configuration file, the user will 
>>specify the *name* of a function somehow with the assumption that the 
>>function will be coded somewhere (in the present or other modules) by 
>>that name.
> 
> Does the configuration file indicate which module contains the function?
> 

It is possible. Please see my latest response to Paul Rubin.

James

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Re: bias in random.normalvariate??

2007-08-03 Thread Dan Bishop
On Aug 3, 10:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm a Python newbie and certainly no expert on statistics, but my wife
> was taking a statistics course this summer and to illustrate that
> sampling random numbers from a distribution and taking an average of
> the samples gives you a random number as the result (bigger sample ->
> smaller variance in the calculated random number, converging in on the
> mean of the original distribution), I threw together this program:
>
...
>
> I added the lo and high stuff to my test program out of fear that I
> was running into something funky in adding up 100 floating point
> numbers.   That would be more of a worry if the sample size was much
> bigger, but lo and high showed apparent bias quite aside from the
> calculation of the mean.
>
> Am I committing some other obvious statistical or Python blunder?
> e.g. Am I mis-understanding what random.normalvariate is supposed to
> do?

Doing some testing with mu=0, sigma=1, and n=100 gives me means of

-0.00096407536711885962
-0.0015179019121429708
+6.9223244807378563e-05
+0.0017483897464631625
-0.0011148444018505548
+0.0015367250480148183

There appears to be no consistent bias.

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Re: Relative-importing *

2007-08-03 Thread rbygscrsepda
Thanks to everybody for replying. (I apologize for the delayed
response: my connection's been down for a week.)

Yes, I'm importing * for a reason, a good one, I think. I have a set
of modules (the number planned to reach about 400) that would be
dynamically loaded by my program as needed, and they're somewhat
similar to each other. I wish each of them to import * from a certain
"parent" module, so that they'll receive whatever functions and
variables I want all of them to share (using the parent module's
__all__), which may be overrided by the "child" modules at their
discretion. Sort of like class inheritance, but I'm not doing that
because implementing that would be a lot more tedious and less
elegant.

But if this doesn't seem to be documented, and unintended...is it a
bug? If so, how do I file it?

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bias in random.normalvariate??

2007-08-03 Thread drewlist
I'm a Python newbie and certainly no expert on statistics, but my wife
was taking a statistics course this summer and to illustrate that
sampling random numbers from a distribution and taking an average of
the samples gives you a random number as the result (bigger sample ->
smaller variance in the calculated random number, converging in on the
mean of the original distribution), I threw together this program:

#! /usr/bin/python

import random;

i=1
samplen=100
mean=130
lo=mean
hi=mean
sd=10
sum=0
while(i<=samplen):
x=random.normalvariate(mean,sd)
#print x
if xhi: high=x
sum+=x
i+=1
print 'sample mean=', sum/samplen, '\n'
print 'low value =', lo
print 'high value=', high
-
But the more I run the darn thing, the stranger the results look to
me.
random.normalvariate is defined on page 89 of

http://www-acc.kek.jp/WWW-ACC-exp/KEKB/Control/Python%20Documents/lib.pdf

as generating points from a normal distribution with mean and standard
deviation  given by the arguments.   But my test program consistently
comes up with sample means that are less than the mean of the
distribution.   The lo value is consistently much lower relative to
the mean than the high value is higher than the mean.   That is, it
looks to me like the normalvariate function is biased.

Part of my being a Python newbie is I'm not really sure where to go to
discuss this problem.   If this group isn't the right place, do feel
free to point me to where I ought to go.

I'm running Ubuntu Dapper and "python  -V" says I've got Python
2.4.3.  I tried looking in random.py down under /usr/lib but find no
clues there as to the version of the random module on my machine.   Am
I missing something?

/usr/lib/python2.4$ ls -l random.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30508 2006-10-06 04:34 random.py

I added the lo and high stuff to my test program out of fear that I
was running into something funky in adding up 100 floating point
numbers.   That would be more of a worry if the sample size was much
bigger, but lo and high showed apparent bias quite aside from the
calculation of the mean.

Am I committing some other obvious statistical or Python blunder?
e.g. Am I mis-understanding what random.normalvariate is supposed to
do?

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Re: Website data-mining.

2007-08-03 Thread SMERSH009
On Aug 3, 7:50 pm, Coogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi--
>
> I'm using Python for the first time to make a plug-in for Firefox.
> The goal of this plug-in is to take the source code from a website
> and use the metadata and body text for different kinds of analysis.
> My question is: How can I retrieve data from a website? I'm not even
> sure if this is possible through Python. Any help?
>
> nieu

How about this? it will fetch the HTML source of the page.

import datetime, time, re, os, sys, traceback, smtplib, string,\
urllib2, urllib, inspect
from urllib2 import build_opener, HTTPCookieProcessor, Request
opener = build_opener(HTTPCookieProcessor)
from urllib import urlencode

def urlopen2(url, data=None, user_agent='urlopen2'):
"""Opens Our URLS """
if hasattr(data, "__iter__"):
data = urlencode(data)
headers = {'User-Agent' : user_agent}
return opener.open(Request(url, data, headers))

###TESTCASES START HERE###
def publishedNotes():
page = urlopen2("http://www.yourURL.com";, ())
pageRead = page.read()
print pageRead

if __name__ == '__main__':
publishedNotes()

sys.exit()

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Re: I am giving up perl because of assholes on clpm -- switching to Python

2007-08-03 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
In most of the technical computer newsgroups which I frequent, there is
a handful of knowledgeable and helpful but irritable regulars, and often
one or two saints who contribute usefully, ignore rudeness and almost
never post off topic.



Ain't that the truth!!
You will find rudeness everywhere you go.  If you really like the
language.  Don't let party poopers spoil your fun.  Always demand
respect.  But if you don't get it.. it is not the end of the world.  I
have also learned that text has little emotion.  I have actually had
to pull some people aside as ask them about a post directed towards
me.
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Website data-mining.

2007-08-03 Thread Coogan
Hi--


I'm using Python for the first time to make a plug-in for Firefox.
The goal of this plug-in is to take the source code from a website
and use the metadata and body text for different kinds of analysis.
My question is: How can I retrieve data from a website? I'm not even
sure if this is possible through Python. Any help?




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Re: I am giving up perl because of assholes on clpm -- switching to Python

2007-08-03 Thread sln
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:56:13 GMT, zentara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:45:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>Python is a better language, with php support, anyway, but I am fed up
>>with attitudes of comp.lang.perl.misc. Assholes in this newsgroup ruin
>>Perl experience for everyone. Instead of being helpful, snide remarks,
>>back-biting, scare tactings, and so on proliferate and self
>>reinforce. All honest people have left this sad newsgroup. Buy bye,
>>assholes, I am not going to miss you!!!
>>
>>Martha
>

>sihT si erehw eht gib syob yalp, uoy evah ot eb elba ot eb elba ot
>elffucs dna ekat tnemhsinup fi uoy era gnorw ro yludnu tnarongi.
>uoY osla deen ot hsauqs wohemos ohw skcatta uoy, nehw uoy
>wonk uoy era thgir.
>
>I saw gnihctaw a CBNC yadretsey, dna yeht deweivretni a gnidael
>ralos lenap ynapmoc's OEC. enO yug tsuj detsalb mih rof on nosaer
>rehto naht eh steg a tnemnrevog ydisbus, dna neve eht rotaredom tlef
>dab rof eht yaw eht evitucexe saw detsalb. TUB.. yeht era eht gib
>syob, gniyalp rof laer yenom, dna fi uoy yalp ereht, uoy evah ot tcepxe
>ot evah ruoy ssenhguot detset. ti snaem laer tiforp dna ssol.
>
>fI uoy tnaw a retteb ecalp ot ksa rennigeb snoitseuq, ro ot eb detaert
>htiw erom tcepser, yrt eht lrep-srennigeb tsilliam ro
>ptth://sknomlrep.gro.  ehT sknom era yllausu yrev etilop.
>
> 
>aratnez

There you go again, always twisting things around.
A little hatred is good for the world, grow some balls, if it hurts
that much, cut your throat, not somebody elses.

Sln


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Re: downloading files

2007-08-03 Thread Steve Holden
Ehsan wrote:
> On Aug 3, 10:10 pm, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>> I'm guessing there are binary files and you are running on Windows,
>> which is inserting a carriage return before ebery newline. Try
>>
>> localFile = open(fileName, 'wb')
>>
>> to avoid thus behavior.
[...]
> thanx Steve
> It works but could you explain more what's wrong with just 'w'?
> 

Hmm, I thought I had. 'b' stand for 'binary', and the system sends out 
exactly the bytes you right. Without the 'b' it assumes you are handling 
text, so Windows "CR/LF" line endings are converted to "LF" or reading, 
and "LF" is converted to "CR/LF" on writing.

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Re: Email

2007-08-03 Thread SMERSH009
On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Rohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 1:06 pm, Laurent Pointal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Rohan wrote:
> > > I was wondering if there could be an arrangement where a file could be
> > > attached and send as an email.
> > > For ex
> > > f = open(add.txt,w)
> > > f.write('python')
> > > f.close()
>
> > > Now I would like to send an email with add.txt as an attachment, is it
> > > possible ?
> > > some one give me a pointer towards this.
>
> > You can use iMailer as an example script to get parts:
>
> >http://nojhan.free.fr/article.php3?id_article=22
>
> > A+
>
> > Laurent.
>
> Laurent the link you gave me is in a language unknown to me if you
> have anything that expalains in english, then let me know.
> thanks

Did you try Google translate?  Here is the tiny url of the page you
wanted translated http://tinyurl.com/3xlcmc

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Re: PYTHON PROGRAMMING HELP PLSSS !!

2007-08-03 Thread SMERSH009
On Aug 2, 6:24 pm, "Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HI All,
> i am a 4th year business student and i took web design online course
> for fun however i did not see that last 2 chapters were python
> programming.This has no relevance to my major nor does it have any
> contribution to my degree. My fun turned out to be my nightmare since
> i literally can not grasp the main idea like other computer science
> students. To sum up , i need help with the following code, please do
> not send me emails telling me that outside class help is not provided
> or etc, this is not my major related course and this might also affect
> my graduation date.
> This is the working sample program 
> ;http://cmpt165.cs.sfu.ca/~ggbaker/examples/chequebook.html
> If interested please email me, i am ready to make it up for your time
> that you spend to get me out of this mess.
> thanks

What exactly do you need done? Be more specific instead of just
pasting a link to a page
Also, you might want to state how much you are willing to 'compensate'
someone.
Maybe you will get more responses this way :)

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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Carsten Haese
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 18:31 -0700, James Stroud wrote:
> Carsten Haese wrote:
> > please describe less abstractly what you're trying to do.
> 
> You sound like my former thesis adviser.

Thanks. I guess.

> OK. From an external source, such as configuration file, the user will 
> specify the *name* of a function somehow with the assumption that the 
> function will be coded somewhere (in the present or other modules) by 
> that name.

Does the configuration file indicate which module contains the function?

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Re: Eclipse and Python

2007-08-03 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
Thanks to all!
Danyelle

On 8/3/07, Lukasz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Użytkownik Danyelle Gragsone napisał:
> > Does anyone have any suggested websites for learning Eclipse the python way?
> >
> > thanks,
> > Danyelle
>
> http://www.showmedo.com/videos/series?name=PyDevEclipseList
>
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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Rubin
James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   ModuleBehavior
>==  
> UserDefined1   Imports FunctionUser
> ThirdParty Contains User Functions (May be ==UserDefined1)
> FunctionUser   do_something_with() and/or get_function_from_name()
> 
> So the name-to-function mapping is done in FunctionUser but the
> function is actually defined in UserDefined1 (or ThirdParty if
> ThirdParty is different than UserDefined1).

I'm still completely confused.  Does FunctionUser know what module the
user functions are supposed to come from?  Could you give an example
of what you want the actual contents of those 3 modules to look like?
E.g.:

UserDefined1.py:
  import FunctionUser

  def foo(x):
  print x+3

FunctionUser.py:
   def do_something_with (module, funcname, *args, **kw):
 func = getattr(module, funcname)
 func (*args, **kw)

main.py:
   import UserDefined1, FunctionUser

   # the following should print 10
   FunctionUser.do_something_with(UserDefined1, 'foo', 7)

I don't think the above is quite what you want, but is it somewhere
close?
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Script that Navigates Page needs Javascript Functionality

2007-08-03 Thread SMERSH009
I have a script that navigates pages and scrapes the HTML source of
the page.
in order to view the results I need I need python to "navigate to"
this Javascript link:
javascript:__doPostBack('ctl00$cpMain$pagerTop','4')  This basically
translates into "go to page 4."
I read the posts on this group, and from what I understand, the
functionality I need is with simplejson? If so, what is the syntax i
would use to execute that Javascript?
Or am I completely off base with using simplejson altogether?


Thanks for the help
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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread James Stroud
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:22:40 -0700, James Stroud wrote:
> 
> 
>>Basically, what I am trying to acomplish is to be able to do this in any 
>>arbitrary module or __main__:
>>
>>
>>funcname = determined_externally()
>>ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule, funcname)
>>
>>
>>Ideally, it would be nice to leave out AModule if the functions were 
>>designed in the same namespace in which do_something_with is called.
> 
> 
> I second Carsten Haese's suggestion that instead of passing function
> names, you pass function objects, in which case you don't need the module.
> But perhaps you need some way of finding the function, given its name.
> 
> def get_function_from_name(name, module=None):
> if module is None:
> # use the current namespace
> namespace = locals() # or globals() if you prefer
> else:
> namespace = module.__dict__
> return namespace[name]
> 
> 

This assumes that get_function_from_name is defined in the same module 
as the function named by name. However, I want this:


  ModuleBehavior
   ==  
UserDefined1   Imports FunctionUser
ThirdParty Contains User Functions (May be ==UserDefined1)
FunctionUser   do_something_with() and/or get_function_from_name()

So the name-to-function mapping is done in FunctionUser but the function 
is actually defined in UserDefined1 (or ThirdParty if ThirdParty is 
different than UserDefined1).

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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Rubin
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> namespace = module.__dict__
> return namespace[name]

Am I missing something?  It's likely that I just don't understand
the problem, but I don't understand these dictionary extractions
for what I thought would be an attribute lookup:

Python 2.4.4 (#1, Oct 23 2006, 13:58:00) 
>>> import math
>>> parrot = getattr(math, 'sqrt')
>>> print parrot(3)
1.73205080757
>>> 

That just seems like a cleaner way to access stuff in a module,
using the published interface instead of an implementation detail.
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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:32:54 -0700, James Stroud wrote:

> Carsten Haese wrote:
>> This seems to confirm my suspicion that the do_something_with function
>> doesn't actually need a reference to the module, it only needs a
>> reference to the function to call.
>> 
>> Maybe your hurdle is how to obtain a reference to a function from the
>> current module when all you have is the name of the function in a
>> string. The answer to that would be "globals()[funcname]".
> 
> This is like a bad case of phone-tag. Please see my response to your 
> previous post for why this does not seem feasible to me.


I've read your previous post, and I don't understand why you consider it
unfeasible. The user provides a function name in a config file, which
gives you funcname as a string. You already know which module it comes
from (you didn't specify how, but all your examples show that). Carsten is
simply showing you how to get the function from the function name without
the nasty hack using sys._getframe. Why is in unfeasible?


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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Rubin
James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > please describe less abstractly what you're trying to do.
> You sound like my former thesis adviser.

I couldn't understand what you were trying to do either.

> OK. From an external source, such as configuration file, the user will
> specify the *name* of a function somehow with the assumption that the
> function will be coded somewhere (in the present or other modules) by
> that name.

Is something wrong with 

   import some_module
   func = getattr(some_module, func_name)

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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:22:40 -0700, James Stroud wrote:

> Basically, what I am trying to acomplish is to be able to do this in any 
> arbitrary module or __main__:
> 
> 
> funcname = determined_externally()
> ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule, funcname)
> 
> 
> Ideally, it would be nice to leave out AModule if the functions were 
> designed in the same namespace in which do_something_with is called.

I second Carsten Haese's suggestion that instead of passing function
names, you pass function objects, in which case you don't need the module.
But perhaps you need some way of finding the function, given its name.

def get_function_from_name(name, module=None):
if module is None:
# use the current namespace
namespace = locals() # or globals() if you prefer
else:
namespace = module.__dict__
return namespace[name]


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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread James Stroud
Carsten Haese wrote:
> This seems to confirm my suspicion that the do_something_with function
> doesn't actually need a reference to the module, it only needs a
> reference to the function to call.
> 
> Maybe your hurdle is how to obtain a reference to a function from the
> current module when all you have is the name of the function in a
> string. The answer to that would be "globals()[funcname]".

This is like a bad case of phone-tag. Please see my response to your 
previous post for why this does not seem feasible to me.

James


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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread James Stroud
Carsten Haese wrote:
> please describe less abstractly what you're trying to do.

You sound like my former thesis adviser.

OK. From an external source, such as configuration file, the user will 
specify the *name* of a function somehow with the assumption that the 
function will be coded somewhere (in the present or other modules) by 
that name. This behavior is to be implemented in a very primitive 
pythoncard-like application wherein the user can specify hooks via a 
configuration file. The configuration file will describe the GUI. To go 
one more step deeper into the rationale, the idea would be to replace 
optparse type behavior with a gui wherein one can type input parameters 
into fields rather than specify them at the command line with optional 
flags.

Please take a look at my previous response to myself for one possible 
solution I devised. I don't particularly like it much, however, because 
it seems unnatural.

James

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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Carsten Haese
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:53 -0700, James Stroud wrote:
> James Stroud wrote:
> > Basically, what I am trying to acomplish is to be able to do this in any 
> > arbitrary module or __main__:
> > 
> > 
> > funcname = determined_externally()
> > ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule, funcname)
> > 
> > 
> > Ideally, it would be nice to leave out AModule if the functions were 
> > designed in the same namespace in which do_something_with is called.
> 
> 
> Is this the preferred way?
> 
> 
> import sys
> def do_something_with(funcname, amodule=None):
>if amodule is None:
>  function = sys._getframe(1).f_locals[funcname]
>else:
>  function = getattr(amodule, funcname)
>[etc.]

This seems to confirm my suspicion that the do_something_with function
doesn't actually need a reference to the module, it only needs a
reference to the function to call.

Maybe your hurdle is how to obtain a reference to a function from the
current module when all you have is the name of the function in a
string. The answer to that would be "globals()[funcname]".

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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread Carsten Haese
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:22 -0700, James Stroud wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Say I have this code:
> 
> 
> import AModule
> import ModuleUser
> 
> ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule, 'some_function_name')
> 
> 
> But say the functions are defined in the same module that contains the 
> above code. I can imagine this hack:
> 
> 
> import AModule
> import ModuleUser
> 
> ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule.__name__, 'some_name')
> 
> 
> Where AModule.__name__ could be substituted for __name__ under the 
> proper circumstances. Then, I would have this code in ModuleUser:
> 
> 
> import sys
> def do_something_with(modname, funcname):
> afunction = sys.modules[modname].funcname
> [etc.]
> 
> 
> Which is terribly ugly to me and makes for a pretty miserable API in my 
> opinion, requiring the programmer to type underscores.
> 
> 
> Basically, what I am trying to acomplish is to be able to do this in any 
> arbitrary module or __main__:
> 
> 
> funcname = determined_externally()
> ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule, funcname)
> 
> 
> Ideally, it would be nice to leave out AModule if the functions were 
> designed in the same namespace in which do_something_with is called.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

I can't be too sure because you may have abstracted away too much of
what you're actually trying to accomplish, but it seems to me that
instead of passing a reference to the current module and a function
name, you should just pass a reference to the function that you want
do_something_with to call.

If I missed the point of your question, please describe less abstractly
what you're trying to do.

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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread James Stroud
James Stroud wrote:
> James Stroud wrote:
> 
>> Basically, what I am trying to acomplish is to be able to do this in 
>> any arbitrary module or __main__:
>>
>>
>> funcname = determined_externally()
>> ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule, funcname)
>>
>>
>> Ideally, it would be nice to leave out AModule if the functions were 
>> designed in the same namespace in which do_something_with is called.
> 
> 
> 
> Is this the preferred way?
> 
> 
> import sys
> def do_something_with(funcname, amodule=None):
>   if amodule is None:
> function = sys._getframe(1).f_locals[funcname]
>   else:
> function = getattr(amodule, funcname)
>   [etc.]
> 
> 
> James
> 

_.replace('locals', 'globals')

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Re: How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread James Stroud
James Stroud wrote:
> Basically, what I am trying to acomplish is to be able to do this in any 
> arbitrary module or __main__:
> 
> 
> funcname = determined_externally()
> ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule, funcname)
> 
> 
> Ideally, it would be nice to leave out AModule if the functions were 
> designed in the same namespace in which do_something_with is called.


Is this the preferred way?


import sys
def do_something_with(funcname, amodule=None):
   if amodule is None:
 function = sys._getframe(1).f_locals[funcname]
   else:
 function = getattr(amodule, funcname)
   [etc.]


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Re: Emacs + python

2007-08-03 Thread Ben Finney
hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> how about a cscope equivalent ?

How about reading what was posted earlier in the thread, and give us a
description of what you want instead of a name that people might not
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RE:xlrd question

2007-08-03 Thread JYOUNG79
Hi John,

Thanks very much for your reply.  And thanks for taking the time to create 
xlrd...  this is a 
very cool and 
impressive program!!  :-)

I ran your code which gave me this:

>>> import sys, xlrd; print sys.version; print xlrd.__file__
2.3.5 (#1, Jan 30 2006, 13:30:29) 
[GCC 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1819)]
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/
xlrd/__init__.pyc

and as far as I can tell, the runxlrd.py file is located here (where I had drug 
this folder 
originally):

Macintosh HD/xlrd-0.6.1/scripts/runxlrd.py

So if I'm understanding this correctly, xlrd only uses the folder you download 
(xlrd-0.6.1) 
and then moves the 
'__init__.pyc' file to the location mentioned above?  I apologize if I don't 
sound very intelligent 
with this - I'm 
completely new to Python.

There's definitely no problems or concerns.  :-)I'm doing a bit of research 
to see if this 
might be something I 
use down the road at work.  Our I/T department is extremely strict as to what 
we put on 
employees machines 
so I want to have a good understanding as to where files are installed so I can 
let i/T know all 
the details.  One 
department in particular that I support uses a lot of Excel macros that I wrote 
quite awhile 
back.  Unfortunately, 
I've heard that Microsoft is planning on taking VBA out of the next version of 
Excel on the 
Mac platform.  I don't 
mind converting everything over to AppleScript but  I'm researching other 
alternatives.  I just 
installed xlrd on 
my home machine last night and was really impressed with the few things I was 
able to figure 
out.

While I'm talking about Excel, is there any other program (for Python) that can 
edit Excel 
files?  Will xlrd ever get 
this capability (I believe someone mentioned xlwr on another post)?

Thanks again for replying to my post and thank you very much for sharing your 
awesome 
program!  :-)

Jay
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Re: Bug in time, part 2

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Boddie
Joshua J. Kugler wrote:
> Or could I entitle this, "A Wrinkle in time.py," with apologies to Madeleine
> L'Engle.  Either I've found a bug (or rather room for improvement) in
> time.py, or I *really* need a time module that doesn't assume so much.

I'd be inclined to use the datetime module to avoid certain underlying
library assumptions. I originally tried to retrace your steps and make
comments about what is going on, but the UNIX time API is so bizarre
that it's better for me to suggest a few things instead.

First of all, you managed to get things working nicely in a GMT/UTC
environment. Sadly, the time module doesn't provide all the functions
you'd need to work with UTC without such hacks as calling tzset,
although I've been trying to refine some patches which do provide such
functions - see this link for more details:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=305470&aid=1667546&group_id=5470

Although I suggested setting tm_isdst to zero previously, I'm more
convinced now that it's quite difficult to do the right thing with
such simple measures alone. Again, the time module doesn't provide
access to timezone offsets on individual time structures in its
current form, nor does it support the %z format option for strftime
and strptime, although the patches mentioned above do provide it; both
of these things provide the foundations to convert localtimes to UTC
times and to convert back only when needed, a bit like the way you're
supposed to work with Unicode and only produce specific textual
encodings once you're finished.

[...]

Anyway, here are some suggestions:

In your original test case (or problem), it looked like you were
seeing a DST "boundary" which then made the times appear further apart
than they actually were. Adjusting this test case for my timezone, I
can reproduce the issue but then add the %z format option (see the
patches) to demonstrate that with access to timezone offsets there's
nothing really wrong:

>>> nondst = time.mktime(time.strptime('2007-03-25 02:00:00', '%Y-%m-%d 
>>> %H:%M:%S'))
>>> dst = time.mktime(time.strptime('2007-03-25 03:00:00', '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S'))
>>> time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %z', time.localtime(nondst))
'2007-03-25 03:00:00 +0200'
>>> time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %z', time.localtime(dst))
'2007-03-25 03:00:00 +0200'

Certainly, the localtime (with undecided timezone) of 2am on 25th
March gets converted to the DST timezone, but we can be more specific
and make informed guesses as to what happens:

>>> nondst = time.mktime(time.strptime('2007-03-25 02:00:00 CET', '%Y-%m-%d 
>>> %H:%M:%S %Z'))
>>> time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z', time.localtime(nondst))
'2007-03-25 03:00:00 CEST'

And trying with 1:59am gives us what we'd expect:

>>> nondst = time.mktime(time.strptime('2007-03-25 01:59:00', '%Y-%m-%d 
>>> %H:%M:%S'))
>>> time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z', time.localtime(nondst))
'2007-03-25 01:59:00 CET'

Now, we might like to avoid dealing with localtime altogether, and for
such work I've introduced a function called mktimetz which attempts to
use the timezone offset to calculate a time value which works with
localtime and gmtime mostly without surprises - something which mktime
doesn't guarantee. However, since strptime tends to sit on the fence
and not assert any knowledge about DST, and since mktimetz depends on
reliable timezone information, you do need to be careful about
supplying vague information in the first place:

>>> tz2am = time.mktimetz(time.strptime('2007-03-25 02:00:00', '%Y-%m-%d 
>>> %H:%M:%S'))
>>> time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z', time.localtime(tz2am))
'2007-03-25 05:00:00 CEST'

(I can only speculate as to what happens here, but it really isn't
worth too much consideration.)

Here, you really need mktime instead, because it will probably make
the right guesses about the presumed localtime given. However, if you
indicate the timezone, the result will be better:

>>> tz2am = time.mktimetz(time.strptime('2007-03-25 02:00:00 CET', '%Y-%m-%d 
>>> %H:%M:%S %Z'))
>>> time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z', time.localtime(tz2am))
'2007-03-25 03:00:00 CEST'
>>> time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z', time.gmtime(tz2am))
'2007-03-25 01:00:00 GMT'

Here, an offset wouldn't be precise enough in the input (something
like +0100) because it wouldn't tell strptime about DST.

I could go on for a very long time about all this, and I've spent a
very long time messing around with the different time functions. My
personal opinion is that Python's time/datetime support needs a boost
if only in terms of useful additional library endorsements and better
documentation. Perhaps we just need to give the datetime module the
support it deserves and treat the time module as legacy code.

> In other news, setting time.tzname = ('GMT', 'GMT') does nothing.  You have
> to set the environment variable, then call tzset.  Is there a rational for
> this?  Seems odd.

It's the bizarre, even perverse way of the old UNIX time API. Various
enhancement

How to pass a reference to the current module

2007-08-03 Thread James Stroud
Hello All,

Say I have this code:


import AModule
import ModuleUser

ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule, 'some_function_name')


But say the functions are defined in the same module that contains the 
above code. I can imagine this hack:


import AModule
import ModuleUser

ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule.__name__, 'some_name')


Where AModule.__name__ could be substituted for __name__ under the 
proper circumstances. Then, I would have this code in ModuleUser:


import sys
def do_something_with(modname, funcname):
afunction = sys.modules[modname].funcname
[etc.]


Which is terribly ugly to me and makes for a pretty miserable API in my 
opinion, requiring the programmer to type underscores.


Basically, what I am trying to acomplish is to be able to do this in any 
arbitrary module or __main__:


funcname = determined_externally()
ModuleUser.do_something_with(AModule, funcname)


Ideally, it would be nice to leave out AModule if the functions were 
designed in the same namespace in which do_something_with is called.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

James


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Re: xlrd question

2007-08-03 Thread John Machin
On Aug 4, 1:22 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When running 'python setup.py install' to install items for xlrd to work, 
> does anybody know
> what items are
> installed and where items are installed at on a Mac (OS 10.4)?  I'm assuming 
> it mainly uses
> things out of the xlrd
> folder, but was curious if it copies files to other locations.
>

Background: I'm the xlrd author. I've never even sat down in front of
a Mac.

xlrd is a pure-Python package. The setup.py is close to vanilla.
Consequently (I'm guessing) the files should be installed on a Mac in
a folder called P/lib/site-packages/xlrd where P is the folder
containing the Python executable etc.

It's easy to find out exactly where. Result on my Windows box:

>>> import sys, xlrd; print sys.version; print xlrd.__file__
2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 18 2007, 08:51:08) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)]
C:\python25\lib\site-packages\xlrd\__init__.pyc

At some stage in the distant past, the hierarchy was somewhat flatter,
e.g.

>>> import sys, xlrd; print sys.version; print xlrd.__file__
2.1.3 (#35, Apr  8 2002, 17:47:50) [MSC 32 bit (Intel)]
C:\python21\xlrd\__init__.pyc

Script files like runxlrd.py should end up somewhere else, probably in
P/Scripts. If all else fails, use the shell find command.

BTW, I've never had anyone else ask where files are installed, on any
platform. What is your problem/concern?

Cheers,
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Re: __call__ considered harmful or indispensable?

2007-08-03 Thread Skip Montanaro
Terry Reedy  udel.edu> writes:

> > The bug went something like this:
> >
> > obj = some.default_class
> > ...
> > if some_other_rare_condition_met:
> > ... several lines ...
> > obj = some.other_class()
> 
> Should that have been some.other_class (without the ()s?).

Either that or default value should have been an instance of
some.default_class.  Didn't really matter in this case...

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Re: regexp problem in Python

2007-08-03 Thread Dave Hansen
On Aug 3, 4:41 pm, Ehsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to find "http://www.2shared.com/download/1716611/e2000f22/
[...]
> I use this pattern :
> "http.*?\.(wmv|3gp).*""
>
> but it returns only 'wmv' and '3gp' instead of "http://www.2shared.com/
> download/1716611/e2000f22/Jadeed_Mlak14.wmv?
> tsid=20070803-164051-9d637d11"
>
> what can I do? what's wrong whit this pattern? thanx for your comments

Just a guess, based on too little information: Try "(http.*?\.(wmv|
3gp).*)"

Regards,

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Re: Eclipse/PyDev question.

2007-08-03 Thread hg
king kikapu wrote:

> Hi,
> this is actually a question to those of us who use Eclipse and Pydev
> as their main Python developing environment. As i use Eclipse (3.3
> Europa) only for Python and i have nothing to do with Java, is there a
> way to disable/uninstall some Java-specific stuff and make the
> environment actually more snappy ??
> 
> thanks for any help
I like pydev and purchased the extensions ... there are bugs of course but
what stopped me from using it is a project were I had some very large files
(my fault).

I stopped using it and went for wing dev (I need Windows and Linux access)
and "there are bugs of course" ... but it is snappier.

I still like pydev and will try it again ... once I can afford a faster PC /
or have the time to re-factor my code.


PS: I just got today news about a "free" version of wing dev .. .worth the
try.

hg


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Re: Eclipse/PyDev question.

2007-08-03 Thread king kikapu
On Aug 3, 5:46 pm, "Danyelle Gragsone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wonder how long before they come out with a python version of
> eclipse.  I know there is a C/C++ now.
>
> Danyelle

The only problem i see in Eclipse/Pydev solution is that Eclipse is
bulky...I was not designed for specific Python usage and because of
that we have a lot of stuff that does not concern us. I started to
look at Eric4 and i must way i like it a lot. I am not sure if i
switch yet but it seems very nice.

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Re: downloading files

2007-08-03 Thread Fabio Z Tessitore
Il Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:32:19 -0700, Ehsan ha scritto:


> It works but could you explain more what's wrong with just 'w'?

On Unix-like systems newline means '\n'

On Window newline means '\r\n'

So, when you open a file on Window with 'w' option, Win replace 
downloaded '\n' with a local '\r\n' and the file isn't readable. If you 
use 'wb' you say that you want a binary copy ('b' option) and Win doesn't 
replace anything.

Hope it is useful,

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regexp problem in Python

2007-08-03 Thread Ehsan
I want to find "http://www.2shared.com/download/1716611/e2000f22/
Jadeed_Mlak14.wmv?tsid=20070803-164051-9d637d11"  or 3gp instead of
wmv in the text file like this :

""some code""
function reportAbuse() {
var windowname="abuse";
var url="/abuse.jsp?link=" + "http://www.2shared.com/file/1716611/
e2000f22/Jadeed_Mlak14.html";
OpenWindow =
window.open(url,windowname,'toolbar=no,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,width=500,height=500,left=50,top=50');
OpenWindow.focus();
  }
  function startDownload(){
window.location = "http://www.2shared.com/download/1716611/
e2000f22/Jadeed_Mlak14.wmv?tsid=20070803-164051-9d637d11";
//document.downloadForm.submit();
  }
  

http://www.2shared.com/download/1716611/e2000f22/
Jadeed_Mlak14.3gp?tsid=20070803-164051-9d637d11"sfgsfgsfgv




I use this pattern :
"http.*?\.(wmv|3gp).*""

but it returns only 'wmv' and '3gp' instead of "http://www.2shared.com/
download/1716611/e2000f22/Jadeed_Mlak14.wmv?
tsid=20070803-164051-9d637d11"

what can I do? what's wrong whit this pattern? thanx for your comments

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Re: downloading files

2007-08-03 Thread Ehsan
On Aug 3, 10:10 pm, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ehsan wrote:
> > I foundd this code in ASPN  Python Cookbook for downloading files in
> > python but when it finished downloading files the files became
> > corrupted and didn't open, the files in internet havn't any problem:
>
> > def download(url,fileName):
> >"""Copy the contents of a file from a given URL
> >to a local file.
> >"""
> >import urllib
> >webFile = urllib.urlopen(url)
> >localFile = open(fileName, 'w')
> >localFile.write(webFile.read())
> >webFile.close()
> >localFile.close()
> > download('http://www.2shared.com/download/1839752/cd520048/
> > xpersia14.3gp?tsid=20070803-143313-49566ea2', 'xpersia4.3gp' )
>
> I'm guessing there are binary files and you are running on Windows,
> which is inserting a carriage return before ebery newline. Try
>
> localFile = open(fileName, 'wb')
>
> to avoid thus behavior.
>
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thanx Steve
It works but could you explain more what's wrong with just 'w'?

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Re: Global package variable, is it possible?

2007-08-03 Thread Chris Allen
> Only for knowing more about modules: is there a way to dinamically reload
> an already imported module?
>
> bye
> Fabio

Yeah you can reload modules with the reload builtin function.

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Re: Eclipse/PyDev question.

2007-08-03 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
On 8/3/07, king kikapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> this is actually a question to those of us who use Eclipse and Pydev
> as their main Python developing environment. As i use Eclipse (3.3
> Europa) only for Python and i have nothing to do with Java, is there a
> way to disable/uninstall some Java-specific stuff and make the
> environment actually more snappy ??
>
> thanks for any help
>
>
You can actually just get the Eclipse 'runtime' distribution (without java
stuff) and install pydev with it (latest version -- previous versions had a
dependency on some java stuff). Reference:
http://pydev.blogspot.com/2007/06/pydev-and-jdt-sdk-not-required-anymore.html

Cheers,

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amra and py2exe

2007-08-03 Thread vinod
Hi i am having trouble creating exe using py2exe for amara package
i saw some posts related to this talking about amara cat file but i
dont have any cat file for amara on my machine.
the standalone script runs fine. i am using python on windows
here is the error i am getting while creating the exe
The following modules appear to be missing
['amara', 'ext.IsDOMString', 'ext.SplitQName']

can anybody please help me with this?

Thanks,
Vinod

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Re: Eclipse and Python

2007-08-03 Thread Lukasz
Użytkownik Danyelle Gragsone napisał:
> Does anyone have any suggested websites for learning Eclipse the python way?
> 
> thanks,
> Danyelle

http://www.showmedo.com/videos/series?name=PyDevEclipseList


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Re: Global package variable, is it possible?

2007-08-03 Thread Fabio Z Tessitore
Il Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:16:59 -0400, Carsten Haese ha scritto:

> Right idea, wrong execution. Note that the OP said "I'd like to be able
> to reload the config file dynamically and have all my modules
> automatically receive the new config."

You are obviously right ... I haven't read all the post, sorry!

Only for knowing more about modules: is there a way to dinamically reload 
an already imported module?

bye
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ANNOUNCE: Spiff Workflow 0.0.1 (Initial Release)

2007-08-03 Thread Samuel
Introduction

Spiff Workflow is a library implementing a framework for workflows. It
is based on http://www.workflowpatterns.com and implemented in pure
Python. Supported workflow patterns include (at least) the following:

 1. Sequence
 2. Parallel Split
 3. Synchronization
 4. Exclusive Choice
 5. Simple Merge
 6. Multi-Choice
 7. Structured Synchronizing Merge
 8. Multi-Merge
 9. Structured Discriminator
10. Arbitrary Cycles

Spiff Workflow is part of the Spiff platform, which aims to produce a
number of generic libraries generally needed in enterprise
applications. This release is the initial release and SHOULD NOT BE
USED IN PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENTS - this release is meant for
development only.

Spiff Workflow is free software and distributed under the GNU
LGPLv2.1.

Dependencies
-
Python >= 2.4

Download
-
The release page is here:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Spiff%20Workflow/0.0.1

You can also check the code out of SVN:
svn checkout http://spiff.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/libs/Workflow/

Links:
---
Spiff project page: http://code.google.com/p/spiff/
Mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/spiff-devel
Bug tracker: http://code.google.com/p/spiff/issues/list
Documentation: http://spiff.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/libs/Workflow/README
Browse the source: http://spiff.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/libs/Workflow/

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

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libpq.dll for pgdb

2007-08-03 Thread ekzept
the module PGDB which gives Python access to PostgreSql currently
wants for a copy of a properly located or proper libpq.dll library, on
Windows.

anyone know what the current story on this is?

thanks,

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Re: Strange set of errors

2007-08-03 Thread Kurt Smith
On 8/3/07, Stephen Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> I've recently begun using Python to do scientific computation, and I wrote
> the following script to find approximate eigenvalues for a semi-infinite
> matrix:
>
>
>  from pylab import *
> from numpy import *
> from scipy import *
>
> def bandstructure(N,s):
>
> b = s/4.0
>
> jmax = 10 + N**2
>
> spectrum1 = [0]*2*N
> spectrum2 = [0]*2*N
> spectrum3 = [0]*2*N
>
>
> for k in arange(1, 2*N+1, 1):
>
> A = zeros( (jmax,jmax) )
>
> i = 0
> while i <= jmax-1:
> if i <= jmax-2:
> A[i,i+1] = b
> A[i+1,i] = b
> A[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
> i = i+1
> else:
> A[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
> i = i+1
>
> #This portion of the code builds a matrix twice as large to check
> against
>
> B = zeros( (2*jmax,2*jmax) )
>
> i = 0
> while i <= 2*jmax-1:
> if i <= 2*jmax-2:
> B[i,i+1] = b
> B[i+1,i] = b
> B[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
> i = i+1
> else:
> B[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
> i = i+1
>
> x = linalg.eigvals(A)
> y = linalg.eigvals(B)
>
> j = 1
> while j<=3:
> if abs(y[j]-x[j]) <= 10.0**(-5):
> j = j + 1
> else:
> print 'jmax not large enough to obtain accurate results'
>
> spectrum1[k-1] = x[0] + 0.5*s
> spectrum2[k-1] = x[1] + 0.5*s
> spectrum3[k-1] = x[2] + 0.5*s
>
> plot (k, spectrum1, k, spectrum2, k, spectrum3)
>
> xlabel('k (energy level)')
> ylabel('E/E_r')
> title('Finite Size Band Structure, N = %d, s = %f' % (N, s))
> grid(true)
>
>
> When I run this script, I get the following message, which I can't figure
> out:
>
>  Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "", line 1, in 
>   File "bandstruc.py", line 61, in bandstructure
> plot (k, spectrum1, k, spectrum2, k, spectrum3)
>   File
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/pylab.py",
> line 2028, in plot
> ret =  gca().plot(*args, **kwargs)
>   File
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.py",
> line 2535, in plot
> for line in self._get_lines(*args, **kwargs):
>   File
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.py",
> line 437, in _grab_next_args
> for seg in self._plot_2_args(remaining[:2], **kwargs):
>   File
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.py",
> line 337, in _plot_2_args
> x, y, multicol = self._xy_from_xy(x, y)
>   File
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.py",
> line 266, in _xy_from_xy
> nrx, ncx = x.shape
>  ValueError: need more than 0 values to unpack
>


Basically, you're trying to plot spectrum[123] vs. k: the spectra are
lists, but k is an integer.  I made some modifications to get things
working more smoothly.  Note the ion() function call at the beginning,
and the use of "indx = arange(1,2*N+1)" instead of plotting vs. k.

There's probably some other things that could be cleaned up, but I'm
short on time right now; this will get your code working at least.

Hope this helps,
(From a fellow physicist)
Kurt

##

from pylab import *
from numpy import *

ion()

def bandstructure(N,s):

b = s/4.0

jmax = 10 + N**2

spectrum1 = [0]*2*N
spectrum2 = [0]*2*N
spectrum3 = [0]*2*N


for k in arange(1, 2*N+1, 1):

A = zeros( (jmax,jmax) )

i = 0
while i <= jmax-1:
if i <= jmax-2:
A[i,i+1] = b
A[i+1,i] = b
A[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
i = i+1
else:
A[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
i = i+1

#This portion of the code builds a matrix twice as large to
check against

B = zeros( (2*jmax,2*jmax) )

i = 0
while i <= 2*jmax-1:
if i <= 2*jmax-2:
B[i,i+1] = b
B[i+1,i] = b
B[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
i = i+1
else:
B[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
i = i+1

x = linalg.eigvals(A)
y = linalg.eigvals(B)

j = 1
while j<=3:
if abs(y[j]-x[j]) <= 10.0**(-5):
j = j + 1
else:
print 'jmax not large enough to obtain accurate results'

spectrum1[k-1] = x[0] + 0.5*s
spectrum2[k-1] = x[1] + 0.5*s
spectrum3[k-1] = x[2] + 0.5*s

indx = arange(1,2*N+1, 1)
plot (indx, spectr

Re: Trying to find zip codes/rest example

2007-08-03 Thread VanL
Terry Reedy wrote:
> No, but does the localflavor entry on
> http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/docs/add_ons.txt?rev=5118
> help? (found with Google) 

Thanks, but no.  A friend asked for advice about implementing a 
password-checking interface; I remembered that the method described in 
the article seemed particularly slick.  I wanted to refer it to him as a 
sample "best practices" link.


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Re: os.listdir path error

2007-08-03 Thread kyosohma
On Aug 3, 2:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello
>
> Here is my simple listdir example:
>
> >>> import os
> >>> os.listdir("C:\Python24\") # This directory relly exists
>
> Here is my error:
>
> WindowsError: [Errno 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 'l/
> *.*'
>
> Regards,
> Vedran

I get "SyntaxError: EOL while scanning single-quoted string", which is
what should happen when you escape the double-quotes at the end. Not
sure how you're getting that WindowsErrors.

If I do  os.listdir('c:\python24')  instead, it works fine.

Mike

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Re: os.listdir path error

2007-08-03 Thread Jerry Hill
On 8/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
>
> Here is my simple listdir example:
>
> >>> import os
> >>> os.listdir("C:\Python24\") # This directory relly exists
>
> Here is my error:
>
> WindowsError: [Errno 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 'l/
> *.*'


That's a somewhat surprising error.  Under 2.5, I get a more helpful
error message:

>>> import os
>>> os.listdir("C:\Python25\")

SyntaxError: EOL while scanning single-quoted string

That's because I've escaped the closing quote of the string with \".
Use this instead:

>>> os.listdir("C:\\Python25\\")
or
>>> os.listdir("C:/Python25/")

since windows is usually happy to use forward slashes instead of
backslashes in directory names.

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Re: Strange set of errors

2007-08-03 Thread Kurt Smith
Sorry, forgot to "Reply to all."

On 8/3/07, Stephen Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings all,

<>

> Also, I've been having trouble with the plot function in matplotlib. For
> example, I enter the following in the terminal:
>
>  >>> from pylab import *
> >>> plot([1,2,3])
> []
>

I can help you with your second problem: matplotlib is doing what it
should, all you need to do is tell it to show() the figure you created
(with the plot on it.)  Note -- if you call the show() function, you
will turn control over to the backend (in my case, TkAgg), and lose
the ability to issue interactive commands afterwards.  A solution is
to use the ion() (stands for "interactive-on") function call before
issuing plotting commands:

>>> from pylab import *
>>> ion()
>>> plot([1,2,3])
[]
>>> # image is shown here

See http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/interactive.html for an
exhaustive explanation.

> Every time I run the plot([1,2,3]) I get a different ending number that
> seems to vary randomly.

The "[]" is what the
plot() function returns -- a list of instances of the Line2D class,
and it tells you their locations in memory (hence the hex number
starting with 0x).  The hex number can be used to uniquely identify
this object, as in the id(object) call.

Hope this helps,

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os.listdir path error

2007-08-03 Thread vedrandekovic
Hello

Here is my simple listdir example:

>>> import os
>>> os.listdir("C:\Python24\") # This directory relly exists

Here is my error:

WindowsError: [Errno 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 'l/
*.*'

Regards,
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Re: Eclipse and Python

2007-08-03 Thread kyosohma
On Aug 3, 11:22 am, "Danyelle Gragsone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggested websites for learning Eclipse the python way?
>
> thanks,
> Danyelle

This article is a little old, but it might be helpful to you:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecant/

I found this too. It looks a little better:

http://pydev.sourceforge.net/

Have fun!

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draggable Tkinter.Text widget

2007-08-03 Thread infidel
Inspired by effbot's recent Vroom! editor, I have been toying with my
own version.  I'd like to make the Text widget "draggable", kind of
like how you can drag a PDF document up and down in Adobe Reader.

Here's what I have so far:

from Tkinter import *

class Draggable(Text, object):

def __init__(self, parent, **options):
Text.__init__(self, parent, **options)
self.config(
borderwidth=0,
font="{Lucida Console} 10",
foreground="green",
background="black",
insertbackground="white", # cursor
selectforeground="green", # selection
selectbackground="#008000",
wrap=WORD, # use word wrapping
undo=True,
width=80,
)
self.bind('', self.handle_mousedown3)
self.bind('', self.handle_drag3)

def handle_mousedown3(self, event=None):
self._y = event.y

def handle_drag3(self, event=None):
self.yview_scroll(self._y - event.y, UNITS)
self._y = event.y

if __name__ == '__main__':
root = Tk()
root.protocol("WM_DELETE_WINDOW", root.quit)
root.config(background='black')
root.wm_state("zoomed")
text = Draggable(root)
text.delete(1.0, END)
text.insert(END, '\n'.join(str(x) for x in xrange(1, 1001)))
text.pack(fill=Y, expand=True)
root.mainloop()

This works fine, but because the mouse movements are in pixels and
scroll actions are in lines, the 'magnitude' of the scrolling is much
larger than the mouse movements causing them.  This isn't all bad, it
makes scanning a long document quickly easier, but I was wondering if
there was a simple way to add some "friction" to the scrolling so a
tiny mouse movement doesn't cause the text to go zipping by in a
flash.

Thanks,
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Re: downloading files

2007-08-03 Thread kyosohma
On Aug 3, 1:48 pm, Ehsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I foundd this code in ASPN  Python Cookbook for downloading files in
> python but when it finished downloading files the files became
> corrupted and didn't open, the files in internet havn't any problem:
>
> def download(url,fileName):
> """Copy the contents of a file from a given URL
> to a local file.
> """
> import urllib
> webFile = urllib.urlopen(url)
> localFile = open(fileName, 'w')
> localFile.write(webFile.read())
> webFile.close()
> localFile.close()
> download('http://www.2shared.com/download/1839752/cd520048/
> xpersia14.3gp?tsid=20070803-143313-49566ea2', 'xpersia4.3gp' )

Uhhh...you probably need to change the open() command to binary mode.
Replace that line with this:

localFile = open(fileName, mode='wb')

I tried it on my PC to download a photo from one of my sites and it
worked great.

Mike

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Announcing Wing IDE 101 for teaching intro programming courses

2007-08-03 Thread Wingware
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We are releasing Wing IDE 101 to the general public in the hopes
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Note that Wing IDE 101 omits auto-completion and most other code intelligence
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Re: Trying to find zip codes/rest example

2007-08-03 Thread Terry Reedy

"VanL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| I now cannot find this demo and the associated discussion.  Does anybody
| remember this demo and where I might be able to find it?

No, but does the localflavor entry on
http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/docs/add_ons.txt?rev=5118
help? (found with Google) 



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Re: (no) fast boolean evaluation ? missing NOT

2007-08-03 Thread Terry Reedy

"Stef Mientki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| John Machin wrote:
| So now I'm left with just one question:
| for bitwise operations I should use &, |, ^
| for boolean operations I should use and, or, xor
| but after doing some test I find strange effects:
| >>> A = 4
| >>> B = 5
| >>> A and B
| 5

>>> B and A
4

| >>> A & B
| 4
| >>> A or B
| 4

>>> B or A
5

| >>> A | B
| 5
|
| So if I use the bitwise operation on integers,
|   "and" changes into (bitwise) "or" and vise versa.

No, you hypnotised yourself by generalizing from insufficient data.
Repeat experiment with, for instance, 3 and 4 instead of 4 and 5.  Then 3&4 
= 0, 3|4 = 7.

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Re: downloading files

2007-08-03 Thread Carsten Haese
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 11:48 -0700, Ehsan wrote:
> I foundd this code in ASPN  Python Cookbook for downloading files in
> python but when it finished downloading files the files became
> corrupted and didn't open, the files in internet havn't any problem:
> 
> 
> def download(url,fileName):
>   """Copy the contents of a file from a given URL
>   to a local file.
>   """
>   import urllib
>   webFile = urllib.urlopen(url)
>   localFile = open(fileName, 'w')
> [...]

Try 'wb' instead of 'w'.

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Re: downloading files

2007-08-03 Thread Steve Holden
Ehsan wrote:
> I foundd this code in ASPN  Python Cookbook for downloading files in
> python but when it finished downloading files the files became
> corrupted and didn't open, the files in internet havn't any problem:
> 
> 
> def download(url,fileName):
>   """Copy the contents of a file from a given URL
>   to a local file.
>   """
>   import urllib
>   webFile = urllib.urlopen(url)
>   localFile = open(fileName, 'w')
>   localFile.write(webFile.read())
>   webFile.close()
>   localFile.close()
> download('http://www.2shared.com/download/1839752/cd520048/
> xpersia14.3gp?tsid=20070803-143313-49566ea2', 'xpersia4.3gp' )
> 
I'm guessing there are binary files and you are running on Windows, 
which is inserting a carriage return before ebery newline. Try

localFile = open(fileName, 'wb')

to avoid thus behavior.

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Re: Global package variable, is it possible?

2007-08-03 Thread Chris Allen
On Aug 3, 10:51 am, Fabio Z Tessitore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Heve you tried to do something like:
>
> # module configure.py
> value1 = 10
> value2 = 20
> ...
>
> # other module
> from configure import *
>
> # now I'm able to use value1 value2 etc.
> var = value1 * value2
>
> bye


Thanks for the response Fabio.  I thought about this, but I don't
think this will work well in my situation either.  Take a look at the
following:

__init__py:
###
_default_cfgfile = 'config.conf'
from configure import *
cfg = loadcfg(_default_cfgfile)

import pkg_module1
import pkg_module2
# EOF


configure.py:

from ConfigParser import SafeConfigParser

def loadcfg(filename):
file = open(filename)
cfg = SafeConfigParser()
cfg.readfp(file)
return cfg
# EOF

pkg_module1:

_default_cfgfile = 'config.conf'
from configure import *
cfg = loadcfg(_default_cfgfile)
# EOF


One problem I see with this approach is that we must define the
configuration file in every module.  Alternatively a better approach
would be to only define the configuration file within configure.py,
however this also seems less than ideal.  I don't like it because I
believe something as important as the location of the package
configuration file, used by all modules, should defined in __init__
not tucked away in one of it's modules.

Another problem is that after the package is loaded and we want to
load in a new config file, what will happen?  With this approach we'll
have to reload every module the package uses for them to read the new
config.  And even then, how do we tell each module what the new config
file is?  If I did define the configuration file in configure.py then
I suppose what I could do is set a cfgfile variable in configure.py to
the new file location and reload all the modules.  If there is no
global package variables, then maybe this isn't so bad...

Hmm. So maybe something like this makes sense:

__init__py:
###
_default_cfg_file = 'config.conf'

import configure
def loadcfg(filename):
configure.cfgfile = filename
try:
reload(pkg_module1)
reload(pkg_module2)
except NameError:
pass
cfg = loadcfg(_default_cfg_file)

import pkg_module1
import pkg_module2
# EOF

confgure.py:
###
cfgfile = None
def loadcfg()
global cfgfile
if not cfgfile:
return None
file = open(cfgfile)
cfg = SafeConfigParser()
cfg.readfp(file)
return cfg
# EOF

pkg_module1:
###
import configure
cfg = configure.loadcfg()
# EOF

It's a little bit convoluted, but I think it solves most of my
gripes.  Anybody have a better idea of how to do this?  Thanks again
Fabio.

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Re: Global package variable, is it possible?

2007-08-03 Thread Chris Allen
On Aug 3, 11:16 am, Carsten Haese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:51 +, Fabio Z Tessitore wrote:
> > Heve you tried to do something like:
>
> > # module configure.py
> > value1 = 10
> > value2 = 20
> > ...
>
> > # other module
> > from configure import *
>
> > # now I'm able to use value1 value2 etc.
> > var = value1 * value2
>
> Right idea, wrong execution. Note that the OP said "I'd like to be able
> to reload the config file dynamically and have all my modules
> automatically receive the new config."
>
> "from configure import *" will import the settings into the current
> namespace, and subsequent changes in the original namespace will, in
> general, not have any effect in the current namespace.
>
> This should do the trick:
>
> # module configure.py
> value1 = 10
> value2 = 20
> ...
>
> # other module
> import configure
>
> var = configure.value1 * configure.value2
>
> HTH,
>
> --
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It does help thanks.  Okay now after reading your post I really need
to do some experimenting.  I was under the impression when I wrote my
last post that changing an attribute in one modules instance in
__init__.py would not effect other modules.  Sorry, I'm relatively new
to python, and things like this are still sometimes "gotchas!" for me.

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Re: Global package variable, is it possible?

2007-08-03 Thread Chris Allen
> Hmm. So maybe something like this makes sense:
>
> __init__py:
> ###
> _default_cfg_file = 'config.conf'
>
> import configure
> def loadcfg(filename):
> configure.cfgfile = filename
> try:
> reload(pkg_module1)
> reload(pkg_module2)
> except NameError:
> pass
> cfg = loadcfg(_default_cfg_file)
>
> import pkg_module1
> import pkg_module2
> # EOF
>
> confgure.py:
> ###
> cfgfile = None
> def loadcfg()
> global cfgfile
> if not cfgfile:
> return None
> file = open(cfgfile)
> cfg = SafeConfigParser()
> cfg.readfp(file)
> return cfg
> # EOF
>
> pkg_module1:
> ###
> import configure
> cfg = configure.loadcfg()
> # EOF
>
> It's a little bit convoluted, but I think it solves most of my
> gripes.  Anybody have a better idea of how to do this?  Thanks again
> Fabio.

Ugh... I wasn't thinking... Of course this won't work either for the
same reasons above.  changing configure.cfgfile from __init__.py will
have no effect on the separate configure instances loaded in other
modules.  I still don't understand why python's __init__.py namespace
isn't global to all modules in the package.  Is this a feature, to
prevent sloppy code?  I think there are certain instances when it
would make sense.

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downloading files

2007-08-03 Thread Ehsan
I foundd this code in ASPN  Python Cookbook for downloading files in
python but when it finished downloading files the files became
corrupted and didn't open, the files in internet havn't any problem:


def download(url,fileName):
"""Copy the contents of a file from a given URL
to a local file.
"""
import urllib
webFile = urllib.urlopen(url)
localFile = open(fileName, 'w')
localFile.write(webFile.read())
webFile.close()
localFile.close()
download('http://www.2shared.com/download/1839752/cd520048/
xpersia14.3gp?tsid=20070803-143313-49566ea2', 'xpersia4.3gp' )

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Re: __call__ considered harmful or indispensable?

2007-08-03 Thread Terry Reedy

Skip Montanaro a écrit :
>>> In this case there was a bug.  Depending on inputs, sometimes obj
>>> initialized to a class, sometimes an instance of that class.  (I fixed
>>> that too while I was at it.)  The problem was that the use of __call__
>>> obscured the underlying bug by making the instance as well as the class
>>> callable.
>
>> I don't quite get the point here. A concrete example would be welcome.
>
> The bug went something like this:
>
> obj = some.default_class
> ...
> if some_other_rare_condition_met:
> ... several lines ...
> obj = some.other_class()

Should that have been some.other_class (without the ()s?).  It is in the 
nature of Python's dynamic typing that mis-typing errors sometimes show up 
later than one would wish.  Hence the need for unit testing.  Consider

i = condition and 1 or '2' # whoops, should have been 2, without the 's
...
k = j * i # j an int; whoops, bad i value passes silently
...
use of k as string raises exception

I do not think __call__ should be specifically blamed for this general 
downside of Python's design.

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RE: File Handling & TRY/EXCEPT

2007-08-03 Thread Alex Popescu
"Robert Rawlins - Think Blue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

> Thanks for your ideas guys,
> 
> I'm unfortunately tied to 2.4 so don't have the full try except
> status, but I'm now working with the following code:
> 
>  def addApp(self, event):
>   try:
>logfile =
> open('/pblue/new/Logs/Application.csv','a')
> 
>now = datetime.datetime.now()
>logstring = '%s,%s \n' % (event, str(now))
>
>try:
> logfile.write(logstring)
>finally:
> logfile.close()
>   except:
>self.addApp(event)
> 
> I'm trying to slowly debug my app and get rid of all the memory leaks,
> but its pain staking work, any help you can offer on that stuff would
> be a god send, I'm a little reluctant about posting all my app code on
> the lists as I'd like to keep some of it private.
> 
> How does that new version look? A little tidier?
> 
> Thanks guys,
> 

Now, you are sure the file is always close. What I don't think is 
correct is to retry to re-write the event (cause if opening the file 
crashed ones there are very good chances that it will throw the 2nd 
time).

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Re: Global package variable, is it possible?

2007-08-03 Thread Carsten Haese
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:51 +, Fabio Z Tessitore wrote:
> Heve you tried to do something like:
> 
> # module configure.py
> value1 = 10
> value2 = 20
> ...
> 
> 
> # other module
> from configure import *
> 
> # now I'm able to use value1 value2 etc.
> var = value1 * value2

Right idea, wrong execution. Note that the OP said "I'd like to be able
to reload the config file dynamically and have all my modules
automatically receive the new config."

"from configure import *" will import the settings into the current
namespace, and subsequent changes in the original namespace will, in
general, not have any effect in the current namespace.

This should do the trick:

# module configure.py
value1 = 10
value2 = 20
...

# other module
import configure

var = configure.value1 * configure.value2

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Re: i am new to python-Please somebody help

2007-08-03 Thread Zentrader
BTW - on the subject of polite discussions, how about this one as an
example of opinions politely expressed.
Oh, and does anyone know how to use zip in Python.  Yes+1.

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Strange set of errors

2007-08-03 Thread Stephen Webb
Greetings all,

I've recently begun using Python to do scientific computation, and I wrote
the following script to find approximate eigenvalues for a semi-infinite
matrix:


from pylab import *
from numpy import *
from scipy import *

def bandstructure(N,s):

b = s/4.0

jmax = 10 + N**2

spectrum1 = [0]*2*N
spectrum2 = [0]*2*N
spectrum3 = [0]*2*N


for k in arange(1, 2*N+1, 1):

A = zeros( (jmax,jmax) )

i = 0
while i <= jmax-1:
if i <= jmax-2:
A[i,i+1] = b
A[i+1,i] = b
A[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
i = i+1
else:
A[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
i = i+1

#This portion of the code builds a matrix twice as large to check
against

B = zeros( (2*jmax,2*jmax) )

i = 0
while i <= 2*jmax-1:
if i <= 2*jmax-2:
B[i,i+1] = b
B[i+1,i] = b
B[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
i = i+1
else:
B[i,i] = ((k + 2.0*i*N)/N)**2
i = i+1

x = linalg.eigvals(A)
y = linalg.eigvals(B)

j = 1
while j<=3:
if abs(y[j]-x[j]) <= 10.0**(-5):
j = j + 1
else:
print 'jmax not large enough to obtain accurate results'

spectrum1[k-1] = x[0] + 0.5*s
spectrum2[k-1] = x[1] + 0.5*s
spectrum3[k-1] = x[2] + 0.5*s

plot (k, spectrum1, k, spectrum2, k, spectrum3)

xlabel('k (energy level)')
ylabel('E/E_r')
title('Finite Size Band Structure, N = %d, s = %f' % (N, s))
grid(true)


When I run this script, I get the following message, which I can't figure
out:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in 
  File "bandstruc.py", line 61, in bandstructure
plot (k, spectrum1, k, spectrum2, k, spectrum3)
  File
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/pylab.py",
line 2028, in plot
ret =  gca().plot(*args, **kwargs)
  File
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.py",
line 2535, in plot
for line in self._get_lines(*args, **kwargs):
  File
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.py",
line 437, in _grab_next_args
for seg in self._plot_2_args(remaining[:2], **kwargs):
  File
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.py",
line 337, in _plot_2_args
x, y, multicol = self._xy_from_xy(x, y)
  File
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.py",
line 266, in _xy_from_xy
nrx, ncx = x.shape
ValueError: need more than 0 values to unpack

Also, I've been having trouble with the plot function in matplotlib. For
example, I enter the following in the terminal:

>>> from pylab import *
>>> plot([1,2,3])
[]

I'm reasonably sure that the issue in the first big error message is just an
indexing error on my part, but I have no idea what the second thing means.
Every time I run the plot([1,2,3]) I get a different ending number that
seems to vary randomly.

Could anybody please help me out with these problems?

Thanks,

Stephen
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Re: i am new to python-Please somebody help

2007-08-03 Thread Zentrader
On the discussion of rudeness, we have to include the OP.  He/She/it
did not even attempt a Google before posting, and posted with a
meaningless subject.  We'll chalk that up to newness, but some sort of
retort was called for IMHO.  How else do we learn the conventions that
govern rudeness.  Personally, there is only one form of rudeness that
can not be overlooked and that is the prima donna that says "My Way Is
The Only Way", or posts some nonsense like "that is not correct" with
no other explanation.  Any attempt to sincerely help, I can live with.

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Re: Global package variable, is it possible?

2007-08-03 Thread Fabio Z Tessitore

Heve you tried to do something like:

# module configure.py
value1 = 10
value2 = 20
...


# other module
from configure import *

# now I'm able to use value1 value2 etc.
var = value1 * value2

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Re: (no) fast boolean evaluation ?

2007-08-03 Thread Irmen de Jong
John Machin wrote:

> 
> (you_are_confused and/or
> function_returns_bool_but_has__side_effects())
> 

That above expression should be written more explicitly like:

function_result = function_returning_bool_but_with_side_effects()

if you_are_confused or function_result:
   do_something_nice()


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Re: (no) fast boolean evaluation ?

2007-08-03 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-08-03, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 3, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I forgot to mention the language did not allow to have else  
>> & if
>> in the same statement. IOW :
>>
>> if some_condition then
>>do_sometehing
>> else
>>if some_other_condition then
>>  do_something_else
>>else
>>  if yet_another_condition then
>>do_yet_another_thing
>>  else
>>if your_still_here then
>>   give_up('this language is definitively brain dead')
>>end if
>>  end if
>>end if
>> end if
>
> Usually that's because the language provides a switch/case
> statement  construct. If it does and you try to write the above
> code, it isn't  the language that's brain-dead!  ;-)

The switch statements I'm aware of are less generally applicable
than a tower of "if { else if }* else". For example, with a
switch statement you have to dispatch on the one value for every
case.

In some languages, it's even of more limited, e.g., C, which can
switch on only integers.

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Re: Using cursor.callproc with zxJDBC

2007-08-03 Thread Carsten Haese
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:31 +0100, Vaughan V Ashe wrote:
> Hi 
>  
> We would like to use the store proc. We are using a postgreql
> database. what we have working so far is:
>  
> params = [4,4,2]
> 
> curs.callproc("update_job_status",params)
> 
> db.commit()
> 
> #print db
> 
> #print curs.description
> 
> result = curs.fetchall()
> 
> if result == 1:
> 
> print "good one"
> 
> else:
> 
> print "shite"
> 
>  
> 
> we are using the beta version of jython. Would be very happy to get a
> response from you

You haven't asked a question, and you're not describing what your
problem is.

I'm going to guess what your problem is: You're always getting the
result "shite" regardless of whether the procedure worked or not.
curs.fetchall() returns a list, which is never going to be equal to 1.

If this doesn't help you, please describe what exactly your problem is.

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Global package variable, is it possible?

2007-08-03 Thread Chris Allen
Hello fellow pythoneers.  I'm stumped on something, and I was hoping
maybe someone in here would have an elegant solution to my problem.
This is the first time I've played around with packages, so I'm
probably misunderstanding something here...

Here's what I'd like to do in my package.  I want my package to use a
configuration file, and what I'd like is for the config file to appear
magically in each module so I can just grab values from it without
having to load and parse the config file in each package module.  Not
quite understanding how the __init__.py file works, I expected it to
be as easy as just setting up the ConfigParser object and then I
figured (since a package is a module) that it would now be global to
my package and I could access it in my modules, but I was wrong...  I
don't want to have to pass it in to each module upon init, or anything
lame like that.  A main reason for this is that I'd like to be able to
reload the config file dynamically and have all my modules
automatically receive the new config.  There must be a way to do this,
but seeing how __init__.py's namespace is not available within the
package modules, I don't see a simple and elegant way to do this.
Does anybody have any suggestions?  Thanks!

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Re: Email

2007-08-03 Thread Rohan
On Aug 2, 1:06 pm, Laurent Pointal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rohan wrote:
> > I was wondering if there could be an arrangement where a file could be
> > attached and send as an email.
> > For ex
> > f = open(add.txt,w)
> > f.write('python')
> > f.close()
>
> > Now I would like to send an email with add.txt as an attachment, is it
> > possible ?
> > some one give me a pointer towards this.
>
> You can use iMailer as an example script to get parts:
>
> http://nojhan.free.fr/article.php3?id_article=22
>
> A+
>
> Laurent.


Laurent the link you gave me is in a language unknown to me if you
have anything that expalains in english, then let me know.
thanks

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Using cursor.callproc with zxJDBC

2007-08-03 Thread Vaughan V Ashe
Hi 

We would like to use the store proc. We are using a postgreql database. what we 
have working so far is:

params = [4,4,2]

curs.callproc("update_job_status",params)

db.commit()


#print db

#print curs.description

result = curs.fetchall()

if result == 1:

print "good one"

else:

print "shite"



we are using the beta version of jython. Would be very happy to get a response 
from you



Regards



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Devloper Wanted For Debugging / Optimizing

2007-08-03 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Hello Chaps,

 

I've been writing (with your help) a small application over the past couple
of months but I'm really struggling to iron out all of the creases and its
seems to spring a few memory leaks that I'm unable to find and plug. It's
only a small app, around 500 lines of code I would guess, aside from the
usual python type things it deals with dbus and XML parsing using element
tree, But it's for an embedded Linux platform so keeping it lightweight and
memory leak free is an absolute must.

 

Is anyone interested to take this small project on to have a look at my
code? Perhaps give me a little bit of advice on where I'm going wrong?

 

I would be willing to pay someone for their much needed time to get the
final few creases ironed out, this isn't really stuff we can deal with on
the boards so something private is a must, hence I'm exploring the idea of a
paid contract.

 

If anyone is interested then please feel free to contact me off list.

 

Thanks again guys,

 

Rob

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Re: (no) fast boolean evaluation ?

2007-08-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 3, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:

> Sorry, I forgot to mention the language did not allow to have else  
> & if
> in the same statement. IOW :
>
> if some_condition then
>do_sometehing
> else
>if some_other_condition then
>  do_something_else
>else
>  if yet_another_condition then
>do_yet_another_thing
>  else
>if your_still_here then
>   give_up('this language is definitively brain dead')
>end if
>  end if
>end if
> end if

Usually that's because the language provides a switch/case statement  
construct. If it does and you try to write the above code, it isn't  
the language that's brain-dead!  ;-)

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Idlelib TreeWidget (UNCLASSIFIED)

2007-08-03 Thread Vines, John (Civ, ARL/CISD)
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 
Does anyone have any experience using the idlelib TreeWidget module?  I
am using it to display XML files and would like to include some editing
capabilities.  Does anyone have any examples I could take a look at?

Thanks,
John

 
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
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Re: Efficient Rank Ordering of Nested Lists

2007-08-03 Thread pyscottishguy
On Aug 2, 10:20 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A naive approach to rank ordering (handling ties as well) of nested
> lists may be accomplished via:
>
>def rankLists(nestedList):
>   def rankList(singleList):
>   sortedList = list(singleList)
>   sortedList.sort()
>   return map(sortedList.index, singleList)
>   return map(rankList, nestedList)
>
>>>> unranked = [ [ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ], [ 3, 1, 5, 2, 4 ], [ -1.1, 2.2,
> 0, -1.1, 13 ] ]
>>>> print rankLists(unranked)
>
>[[0, 1, 2, 3, 4], [2, 0, 4, 1, 3], [0, 3, 2, 0, 4]]
>
> This works nicely when the dimensions of the nested list are small.
> It is slow when they are big.  Can someone suggest a clever way to
> speed it up?

Isn't there something wrong with the ordering?

Pablo's answers are:
[ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ] == [0, 1, 2, 3, 4]  correct

[ 3, 1, 5, 2, 4 ] == [2, 0, 4, 1, 3] wrong?

[ -1.1, 2.2, 0, -1.1, 13 ] == [0, 3, 2, 0, 4] wrong?

Doing it in my head I get:
[ 3, 1, 5, 2, 4 ] == [ 1, 3, 0, 4, 2 ]

[ -1.1, 2.2, 0, -1.1, 13 ] == [0, 3, 2, 1, 4]

What gives?

Did I misunderstand what "rank ordering (handling ties as well)" means?

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Eclipse and Python

2007-08-03 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
Does anyone have any suggested websites for learning Eclipse the python way?

thanks,
Danyelle
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Re: Eclipse/PyDev question.

2007-08-03 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
I just found this: http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/distributions/python.html
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Re: (no) fast boolean evaluation ?

2007-08-03 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:20:59 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> 
>> Joshua J. Kugler a écrit :
>>> On Thursday 02 August 2007 15:19, Evan Klitzke wrote:
> I discovered that boolean evaluation in Python is done "fast"
> (as soon as the condition is ok, the rest of the expression is ignored).
 This is standard behavior in every language I've ever encountered.
>>> Then you've never programmed in VB (at least 6, don't know if .net still
>>> does this).  Nested IF statements. CK! 
>> I do remember an even brain-deadiest language that not only didn't 
>> short-circuit boolean operators but also didn't have an "elif" statement...
> 
> 
> Is it a secret?
> 
> I'm a little perplexed at why you say a language without "elif" is a good
> sign of brain-death in a programming language. I understand that, given
> the parsing rules of Python, it is better to use elif than the equivalent:
> 
> if condition:
> pass
> else:
> if another_condition:
> pass
> 
> 
> But that's specific to the syntax of the language. You could, if you
> choose, design a language where elif was unnecessary:
> 
> if condition:
> pass
> else if another_condition:
> pass
> 
> What advantage is there to "elif", apart from it needing three fewer
> characters to type?
> 

Sorry, I forgot to mention the language did not allow to have else & if 
in the same statement. IOW :

if some_condition then
   do_sometehing
else
   if some_other_condition then
 do_something_else
   else
 if yet_another_condition then
   do_yet_another_thing
 else
   if your_still_here then
  give_up('this language is definitively brain dead')
   end if
 end if
   end if
end if

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Coroutine API

2007-08-03 Thread Calvin Spealman
I was talking to some other people, who all were working on different
schedulers and such for coroutines. We decided to work out a common
API to give coroutines, and common rules to passing data between them,
etc. I am wondering now if there is already work on this, or some
schedulers I'm not aware of that have any deployment and a good,
simple design.

We also setup a group to discuss this and iron out our details and
some common coroutines. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We came up with this basic rule set:
1) A coroutine can be any iterable
2) A coroutine yielding None is suspending to allow others to run
3) A coroutine yielding something else is yielding another coroutine
and needs to stay suspended until that coroutine has a value to pass
to the send() method of the coroutine.
4) In the above case, if the yielded coroutine raises an exception, it
is passed to the waiting coroutine's throw() method.
5) A coroutine raising StopIteration(arg), where arg is its final
result, expects arg to be passed to the send() method of any coroutine
which is waiting for its completion.

The idea is that we don't rely on defining any new types or functions
and we keep it extremely simple. I'd like to consider it WSGI for
coroutines.

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Re: Replacing _xmlplus.dom.minidom with xml.dom.minidom

2007-08-03 Thread Stefan Behnel
Robert Rawlins - Think Blue wrote:
> Just as a heads up, minidom is pretty inefficient and difficult to work with
> too.
> 
> On someone else's advice I switched over to ElementTree and have been really
> pleased with the results, its much simpler to work with and more efficient
> too.

/and/ lxml.etree is compatible to ElementTree, so once you have written your
code for ElementTree, you can switch to lxml.etree if ever you need things
like XPath, XSLT or validation.

However, as I understand the OP, the question deals with old code, so porting
it to ET (i.e. reimplementing it) might not be that easy...

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