Re: Python Editor or IDE ActiveX control

[Michel Claveau - MVP]

Hi!

Scintilla come like a control (a piece for a window), raleted to the
file SciLexer.DLL
For call the scintilla-componant, use messages. Example :
   SendMessage(Sci, SCI_GOTOLINE, line, 0)
For the constant SCI_GOTOLINE, I suggest  scintillacon.py, include in
Pywin32.

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Re: Writing byte stream as jpeg format to disk

[Bryan]

Robert Kern wrote:
 Please
 follow our advice. Split using b'\r\n\r\n' and use the maxsplit=1 argument to
 make sure that you do not split on spurious b'\r\n\r\n' sequences inside the
 JPEG body. Do not decode the bytes.

Correct, and I'll add that this is a case where we might want to be
better than correct. BaseHTTPRequestHandler in the Python standard
library accommodates clients that incorrectly omit the '\r' and end
header lines with just '\n'. Such apps have been seen in the wild.
Since bare '\n' never appears in correctly formed HTTP headers,
interpreting it as equivalent to '\r\n' doesn't break anything.

The re module offers a split that does what we want.

  import re
  boundary_re = re.compile(br'\r?\n\r?\n')

then you can use:

  (headers, content) = boundary_re.split(rawdata, 1)

I like Robert's suggestion to use the HTTP server or wsgiref in the
Python library. There's significant arcane wisdom programmed in
already.
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Re: Reading the access attributes of directories in Windows

[Rami Chowdhury]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 05:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote:
 In message pan.2010.08.22.04.26.33.547...@nowhere.com, Nobody wrote:

 Having this as a separate permission allows normal users to add entries to
 log files but not to erase existing entries.

 Unix/Linux systems can do this already.

Ooh, I didn't know that -- what combination of permissions would I
have to use to get such an effect?

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Re: Reading the access attributes of directories in Windows

[Nobody]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:28:46 +0600, Rami Chowdhury wrote:

 Having this as a separate permission allows normal users to add entries
 to log files but not to erase existing entries.

 Unix/Linux systems can do this already.
 
 Ooh, I didn't know that -- what combination of permissions would I have to
 use to get such an effect?

You can't do it with permissions, you need to use ext2 attributes.
Specifically, chattr +a filename will set the append attribute,
which prevents the file being opened for write except in append mode.
Changing this attribute requires root privilege or the CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE
capability.

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Re: Writing byte stream as jpeg format to disk

[Nobody]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:56:26 -0700, Bryan wrote:

 follow our advice. Split using b'\r\n\r\n' and use the maxsplit=1
 argument to make sure that you do not split on spurious b'\r\n\r\n'
 sequences inside the JPEG body. Do not decode the bytes.
 
 Correct, and I'll add that this is a case where we might want to be better
 than correct. BaseHTTPRequestHandler in the Python standard library
 accommodates clients that incorrectly omit the '\r' and end header lines
 with just '\n'. Such apps have been seen in the wild. Since bare '\n'
 never appears in correctly formed HTTP headers, interpreting it as
 equivalent to '\r\n' doesn't break anything.

Yes it does. It breaks upstream filtering rules which are intended to
prohibit, remove or modify certain headers.

This class of attack is known as HTTP request smuggling. By
appending a header preceded by a bare '\r' or '\n' to the end of
another header, the header can be smuggled past a filter which
parses headers using the correct syntax, but will still be treated as a
header by software which incorrectly parses headers using bare '\r' or
'\n' as separators.

The safest solution would be to simply reject any request (or response)
which contains bare '\r' or '\n' characters within headers, at least by
default. Force the programmer to read the documentation (where the risks
would be described) if they want the fault tolerant behaviour.

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palindrome iteration

[Baba]

level: beginner

the following code looks ok to me but it doesn't work. I would like
some hints as to where my reasoning / thought goes wrong

def i_palindrome(pal):
 while len(pal)1:
  if pal[0] == pal[-1]:
   pal=pal[1:-1]
 return True

print i_palindrome('annab')


my reasoning:
- i check the length of the string: if  1 continue
- i check first and last char: if they are equal continue
- create a new, shorter string starting at index 1 and ending at
second last index (up to but not including index-1
-restart the while loop as long as length of string is  1
- exiting this loop means all compared chars were identical hence it
is a palindrome and i return True

tnx
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Re: palindrome iteration

[Xavier Ho]

One possible reason I can think of -
- exiting this loop means all compared chars were identical hence it
is a palindrome and i return True

is probably incorrect reasoning. Think again.

Also, you may consider posting your code in a way that preserves the
whitespace characters.

Cheers,
Xav

On 27 August 2010 18:53, Baba raoul...@gmail.com wrote:

 level: beginner

 the following code looks ok to me but it doesn't work. I would like
 some hints as to where my reasoning / thought goes wrong

 def i_palindrome(pal):
  while len(pal)1:
  if pal[0] == pal[-1]:
   pal=pal[1:-1]
  return True

 print i_palindrome('annab')


 my reasoning:
 - i check the length of the string: if  1 continue
 - i check first and last char: if they are equal continue
 - create a new, shorter string starting at index 1 and ending at
 second last index (up to but not including index-1
 -restart the while loop as long as length of string is  1
 - exiting this loop means all compared chars were identical hence it
 is a palindrome and i return True

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Peter Otten]

Baba wrote:

 level: beginner
 
 the following code looks ok to me but it doesn't work. I would like
 some hints as to where my reasoning / thought goes wrong
 
 def i_palindrome(pal):
  while len(pal)1:
   if pal[0] == pal[-1]:
pal=pal[1:-1]
  return True

Do yourself a favour and use 4-space indent. That makes the structure of 
your code more obvious.
 
 print i_palindrome('annab')
 
 
 my reasoning:
 - i check the length of the string: if  1 continue
 - i check first and last char: if they are equal continue
 - create a new, shorter string starting at index 1 and ending at
 second last index (up to but not including index-1
 -restart the while loop as long as length of string is  1
 - exiting this loop means all compared chars were identical hence it
 is a palindrome and i return True

If the test pal[0] == pal[-1] fails, i. e. the two compared characters 
differ, what happens?

More generally, if pal is not a palindrome, can your function ever return 
False? If not, at what point should it?

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Baba a écrit :

level: beginner

the following code looks ok to me but it doesn't work.


doesn't work is about the most useless description of a problem. 
Please specify what you expected and what actually happens.



I would like
some hints as to where my reasoning / thought goes wrong

def i_palindrome(pal):
 while len(pal)1:
  if pal[0] == pal[-1]:
   pal=pal[1:-1]


Can you explain what happens if pal[0] != pal[-1] ? (answer below)


 return True



print i_palindrome('annab')


And then you go in an infinite loop !-)



my reasoning:
- i check the length of the string: if  1 continue
- i check first and last char: if they are equal continue
- create a new, shorter string starting at index 1 and ending at
second last index (up to but not including index-1
-restart the while loop as long as length of string is  1
- exiting this loop means all compared chars were identical hence it
is a palindrome and i return True


Your problem is that when first and last char are not equal, you don't 
exit the while loop. You need a return False somewhere here, ie:


def is_palindrom(pal):
  while len(pal)1:
# NB : inverted the test here to make exit more obvious
if pal[0] != pal[-1]:
  return False
pal=pal[1:-1]
  return True


Now there is another solution. A palindrom is made of two symetric 
halves, with (odd len) or without (even len) a single char between the 
symetric halves, ie :


* odd : ABCBA ('AB' + 'C' + 'BA')
* even : ABCCBA ('ABC' + 'CBA')

So you just have to extract the symetric halves, reverse one, and 
compare both (case insensitive compare while we're at it). Here's a 
possible (and a bit tricky) Python 2.x implementation:


def is_palindrom(s):
s = s.lower()
slen = len(s)
until = slen / 2 # Python 2x integer division
offset = int(not(slen % 2))
runtil = until - offset
return s[0:until] == s[-1:runtil:-1]


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Re: palindrome iteration

[Richard Arts]

 Now there is another solution. A palindrom is made of two symetric halves,
 with (odd len) or without (even len) a single char between the symetric
 halves, ie :

 * odd : ABCBA ('AB' + 'C' + 'BA')
 * even : ABCCBA ('ABC' + 'CBA')

 So you just have to extract the symetric halves, reverse one, and compare
 both (case insensitive compare while we're at it).

Yes, this is a correct observation, but it is not necessary to compare
the halves; Simply compare the complete string with its reverse. If
they match, it is a palindrome.

 Here's a possible (and a
 bit tricky) Python 2.x implementation:

 def is_palindrom(s):
    s = s.lower()
    slen = len(s)
    until = slen / 2 # Python 2x integer division
    offset = int(not(slen % 2))
    runtil = until - offset
    return s[0:until] == s[-1:runtil:-1]



At first glance this seems to be correct, but it is tricky indeed.
Particularly the assignment of the offset variable, casting a bool to
an integer of a negated expression. Given that Baba notes that this is
a beginners level query, it wouldn't have hurt to be a little bit more
verbose there.

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Re: pil and reportlab: image compression

[steph]

On 26 Aug., 13:16, steph stepha...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hi group,

 I've written a small application that puts images into a pdf document.
 It works ok, but my problem is that the pdf-files become quite huge,
 bigger than the original jpegs. The problem seems to arise because I
 use PIL to resize the pictures - and the images seem to get
 uncompressed in the process. Unfortunately I have not found a way to
 compress them again before rendering them to the pdf. Any clues?

 Thanks,
 Stephan

Solved this by writung to anonymous mmap. Works nicely :-)
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Re: palindrome iteration

[Matteo Landi]

 Yes, this is a correct observation, but it is not necessary to compare
 the halves; Simply compare the complete string with its reverse. If
 they match, it is a palindrome.

I've always used to implement the is_palindrome function as you
suggest, i.e. comparing the original string with the reverse one, but
while reading, I tought about a imho nicer version which prevent from
creating another string.

Here are both the recursive/iterative versions of the function:

def palindrome(str, i=0, j=-1):
try:
if str[i] == str[j]:
return palindrome(str, i + 1, j - 1)
return False
except IndexError:
return True

def palindrome(str, i=0, j=-1):
try:
while True:
if str[i] != str[j]:
return False
i, j = i + 1, j - 1
return True
except IndexError:
return True

Regards,
Matteo


 Here's a possible (and a
 bit tricky) Python 2.x implementation:

 def is_palindrom(s):
    s = s.lower()
    slen = len(s)
    until = slen / 2 # Python 2x integer division
    offset = int(not(slen % 2))
    runtil = until - offset
    return s[0:until] == s[-1:runtil:-1]



 At first glance this seems to be correct, but it is tricky indeed.
 Particularly the assignment of the offset variable, casting a bool to
 an integer of a negated expression. Given that Baba notes that this is
 a beginners level query, it wouldn't have hurt to be a little bit more
 verbose there.

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Dave Angel]

Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedBaba a 
écrit :

level: beginner

the following code looks ok to me but it doesn't work.


doesn't work is about the most useless description of a problem. 
Please specify what you expected and what actually happens.



I would like
some hints as to where my reasoning / thought goes wrong

def i_palindrome(pal):
 while len(pal)1:
  if pal[0] == pal[-1]:
   pal=pal[1:-1]


Can you explain what happens if pal[0] != pal[-1] ? (answer below)


 return True



print i_palindrome('annab')


And then you go in an infinite loop !-)



my reasoning:
- i check the length of the string: if  1 continue
- i check first and last char: if they are equal continue
- create a new, shorter string starting at index 1 and ending at
second last index (up to but not including index-1
-restart the while loop as long as length of string is  1
- exiting this loop means all compared chars were identical hence it
is a palindrome and i return True


Your problem is that when first and last char are not equal, you don't 
exit the while loop. You need a return False somewhere here, ie:


def is_palindrom(pal):
  while len(pal)1:
# NB : inverted the test here to make exit more obvious
if pal[0] != pal[-1]:
  return False
pal=pal[1:-1]
  return True


Now there is another solution. A palindrom is made of two symetric 
halves, with (odd len) or without (even len) a single char between the 
symetric halves, ie :


* odd : ABCBA ('AB' + 'C' + 'BA')
* even : ABCCBA ('ABC' + 'CBA')

So you just have to extract the symetric halves, reverse one, and 
compare both (case insensitive compare while we're at it). Here's a 
possible (and a bit tricky) Python 2.x implementation:


def is_palindrom(s):
s = s.lower()
slen = len(s)
until = slen / 2 # Python 2x integer division
offset = int(not(slen % 2))
runtil = until - offset
return s[0:until] == s[-1:runtil:-1]



or  (untested)
def is_palindrom(s):
   s = s.lower()
   return s == s[::-1]

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Re: Writing byte stream as jpeg format to disk

[Bryan]

Nobody wrote:
 Bryan wrote:
  this is a case where we might want to be better
  than correct. BaseHTTPRequestHandler in the Python standard library
  accommodates clients that incorrectly omit the '\r' and end header lines
  with just '\n'. Such apps have been seen in the wild. Since bare '\n'
  never appears in correctly formed HTTP headers, interpreting it as
  equivalent to '\r\n' doesn't break anything.

 Yes it does. It breaks upstream filtering rules which are intended to
 prohibit, remove or modify certain headers.

 This class of attack is known as HTTP request smuggling. By
 appending a header preceded by a bare '\r' or '\n' to the end of
 another header, the header can be smuggled past a filter which
 parses headers using the correct syntax,

How does a bare '\r' or '\n' get past a filter which parses headers
using the correct syntax? I don't see where the correct syntax of the
HTTP protocol allows that.

 but will still be treated as a
 header by software which incorrectly parses headers using bare '\r' or
 '\n' as separators.

Why blame software that incorrectly accepts '\n' as a line break, and
not the filter that incorrectly accepted '\n' in the middle of a
header? Both are accepting incorrect syntax, but only the former has
good reason to do so.

 The safest solution would be to simply reject any request (or response)
 which contains bare '\r' or '\n' characters within headers, at least by
 default. Force the programmer to read the documentation (where the risks
 would be described) if they want the fault tolerant behaviour.

The Internet has a tradition of protocols above the transport level
being readable by eye and writable by hand. The result has been quick
development, but many mistakes that can induce unforeseen
consequences.

This case is somewhat subtle. Within a text entity-body, HTTP allows
any one of the three end-of-line delimiters. That's just the body; the
header portion is more rigid. In HTTP 1.0:

   This flexibility regarding line breaks applies only to text
   media in the Entity-Body; a bare CR or LF should not be
   substituted for CRLF within any of the HTTP control
   structures (such as header fields and multipart boundaries).
   -- RFC 1945

While in HTTP 1.1:

   This flexibility regarding line breaks applies only to text
   media in the entity-body; a bare CR or LF MUST NOT be
   substituted for CRLF within any of the HTTP control
   structures (such as header fields and multipart boundaries).
   -- RFC 2616

Note the change from should not to MUST NOT. In reality our code
might be called upon to work with apps that botch the technically-
correct HTTP end-of-line marker. Rejecting bare '\n' may be safe from
a technical security perspective, but if our safe code breaks a
previously working system, then it will appear in a bug database and
not in production.

'Nobody' makes a fair point. I'd love to see Internet protocols
defined with mechanical rigor. Our discipline commonly specifies
programming language syntax formally, and Internet protocols are
syntactically simpler than programming languages. For now, HTTP is a
bit of a mess, so write it absolutely correctly but read it a bit
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Re: palindrome iteration

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Richard Arts a écrit :

Now there is another solution. A palindrom is made of two symetric halves,
with (odd len) or without (even len) a single char between the symetric
halves, ie :

* odd : ABCBA ('AB' + 'C' + 'BA')
* even : ABCCBA ('ABC' + 'CBA')

So you just have to extract the symetric halves, reverse one, and compare
both (case insensitive compare while we're at it).


Yes, this is a correct observation, but it is not necessary to compare
the halves; Simply compare the complete string with its reverse. If
they match, it is a palindrome.


Duh :(

I kinda feel stupid right now, thanks Richard :-/


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Re: palindrome iteration

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Dave Angel a écrit :
(snip)


or  (untested)
def is_palindrom(s):
   s = s.lower()
   return s == s[::-1]




Right, go on, make me feel a bit more stupid :-/
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Re: Confused: Newbie Function Calls

[Aahz]

In article 2dd74ab4-5ed6-40ac-aea7-705977b61...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com,
fuglyducky  fuglydu...@gmail.com wrote:

I am a complete newbie to Python (and programming in general) and I
have no idea what I'm missing. Below is a script that I am trying to
work with and I cannot get it to work. 

Side note: while it's fine to ask newbie questions on comp.lang.python,
you may want to use resources oriented more toward newbies, such as the
tutor list:

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Re: palindrome iteration

[D'Arcy J.M. Cain]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:49:42 -0400
D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote:
 is_palindrome = lambda x: x == x.lower()[::-1]

Oops.  Simple and wrong.

is_palindrome = lambda x: x.lower() == x.lower()[::-1]

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Mark Lawrence]

On 27/08/2010 15:43, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:

Dave Angel a écrit :
(snip)


or (untested)
def is_palindrom(s):
s = s.lower()
return s == s[::-1]




Right, go on, make me feel a bit more stupid :-/
Who's next ?


It could be worse, try responding to issue 9702. :)

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Ian]

 On 27/08/2010 09:53, Baba wrote:

level: beginner

the following code looks ok to me but it doesn't work. I would like
some hints as to where my reasoning / thought goes wrong

def i_palindrome(pal):
  while len(pal)1:
   if pal[0] == pal[-1]:
pal=pal[1:-1]
  return True

print i_palindrome('annab')


If you want to or must  do it recursively.
(Shown in pseudo code to make the logic clearer)

def isPalindrome(pal)
''' test pal (a list) is a palindrome '''
if length of pal = 1
return True # all one letter strings are palindromes.
if first equals last
# pal could be a palindrome
#  so test inner part
p = pal with first and last removed
return  isPalendrome(p)   #  and true - implied
else
return False # it can't be

Of course, the simpler way is to use the definition of a Palindrome as 
the same backwards and forwards.


def isPalindrome(pal)
return pal == pal.reverse



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numpy is not installed with Python2.

[justin]

My university has a cluster computer, on which I want to run my python
program that uses numpy.
I am installing my Python2.7 locally separated from the main system,
and trying to install numpy, attach it with Python2.7.
I used many different versions of numpys to make it happen, but I got
stuck with the same following error on every trial,

[...@login1 numpy]$ python2.7 setup.py install
Running from numpy source directory.Traceback (most recent call last):
  File setup.py, line 210, in module
setup_package()
  File setup.py, line 187, in setup_package
from numpy.distutils.core import setup
  File /users/hp6/DOWN/numpy/numpy/distutils/core.py, line 25, in
module
from numpy.distutils.command import config, config_compiler, \
  File /users/hp6/DOWN/numpy/numpy/distutils/command/build_ext.py,
line 9, in module
from distutils.command.build_ext import build_ext as old_build_ext
  File /users/hp6/apps/python27/lib/python2.7/distutils/command/
build_ext.py, line 13, in module
from site import USER_BASE, USER_SITE
ImportError: cannot import name USER_BASE

It seems the error is related to the inability of Python2.7 to process
from site import USER_BASE, USER_SITE,
since the machine I succeeded to install numpy with Python2.7 doesn't
prompt an error from this command,
whereas this machine in which I failed to do so cannot handle this.

My question is:
How can I make Python2.7 to process this, since the manual says this
package is the one that's automatically turned on in startup.

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Re: palindrome iteration

[D'Arcy J.M. Cain]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:43:16 +0200
Bruno Desthuilliers bruno.42.desthuilli...@websiteburo.invalid wrote:
 Dave Angel a écrit :
  def is_palindrom(s):
 s = s.lower()
 return s == s[::-1]
 
 
 Right, go on, make me feel a bit more stupid :-/
 Who's next ?

How about a one-liner?

is_palindrome = lambda x: len(x) 0 and x == x.lower()[::-1]

Note that the above assumes that single characters are palindromes but
empty strings are not.  I'm not 100% sure that that last is true.  If
not then this can be simplified.

is_palindrome = lambda x: x == x.lower()[::-1]

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Re: Queue cleanup

[Aahz]

In article mailman.1967.1281549328.1673.python-l...@python.org,
MRAB  pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:

An object will be available for garbage collection when nothing refers
to it either directly or indirectly. If it's unreferenced then it will
go away.

This isn't actually garbage collection as most people think of it.
Refcounting semantics mean that objects get reaped as soon as nothing
points at them.  OTOH, CPython does also have garbage collection to back
up refcounting so that when you have unreferenced object cycles they
don't stay around.
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Re: palindrome iteration

[MRAB]

On 27/08/2010 17:20, Mark Lawrence wrote:

On 27/08/2010 15:43, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:

Dave Angel a écrit :
(snip)


or (untested)
def is_palindrom(s):
s = s.lower()
return s == s[::-1]




Right, go on, make me feel a bit more stupid :-/
Who's next ?


It could be worse, try responding to issue 9702. :)


As a wise man once said: Ay caramba! :-)
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Re: numpy is not installed with Python2.

[Robert Kern]

On 8/27/10 11:40 AM, justin wrote:

My university has a cluster computer, on which I want to run my python
program that uses numpy.
I am installing my Python2.7 locally separated from the main system,
and trying to install numpy, attach it with Python2.7.
I used many different versions of numpys to make it happen, but I got
stuck with the same following error on every trial,

[...@login1 numpy]$ python2.7 setup.py install
Running from numpy source directory.Traceback (most recent call last):
   File setup.py, line 210, inmodule
 setup_package()
   File setup.py, line 187, in setup_package
 from numpy.distutils.core import setup
   File /users/hp6/DOWN/numpy/numpy/distutils/core.py, line 25, in
module
 from numpy.distutils.command import config, config_compiler, \
   File /users/hp6/DOWN/numpy/numpy/distutils/command/build_ext.py,
line 9, inmodule
 from distutils.command.build_ext import build_ext as old_build_ext
   File /users/hp6/apps/python27/lib/python2.7/distutils/command/
build_ext.py, line 13, inmodule
 from site import USER_BASE, USER_SITE
ImportError: cannot import name USER_BASE

It seems the error is related to the inability of Python2.7 to process
from site import USER_BASE, USER_SITE,
since the machine I succeeded to install numpy with Python2.7 doesn't
prompt an error from this command,
whereas this machine in which I failed to do so cannot handle this.


Your Python installation appears to be broken. Find the site.py module that you 
are actually importing. I.e. from the numpy source directory:


  $ python2.7 -c import site; print site.__file__

This will tell you the site.pyc file that actually gets imported. Find the 
associated site.py file (it should be in the same directory) and check to see if 
it has USER_BASE defined. The filename should be


  /users/hp6/apps/python27/lib/python2.7/site.pyc

If it isn't, that may be the source of your problem.

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Mark Lawrence]

On 27/08/2010 17:53, MRAB wrote:

On 27/08/2010 17:20, Mark Lawrence wrote:

On 27/08/2010 15:43, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:

Dave Angel a écrit :
(snip)


or (untested)
def is_palindrom(s):
s = s.lower()
return s == s[::-1]




Right, go on, make me feel a bit more stupid :-/
Who's next ?


It could be worse, try responding to issue 9702. :)


As a wise man once said: Ay caramba! :-)


Isn't that a syntax error?  Shouldn't it be  ¡Ay caramba! :)

Cheers.

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Terry Reedy]

On 8/27/2010 4:53 AM, Baba wrote:

level: beginner

the following code looks ok to me but it doesn't work. I would like
some hints as to where my reasoning / thought goes wrong

def i_palindrome(pal):
  while len(pal)1:
   if pal[0] == pal[-1]:
pal=pal[1:-1]
  return True

print i_palindrome('annab')


General practical debugging procedurewhen logic inspection fails: insert 
print statements at key points.


In the case above, put print pal before the if statement and you 
should see the problem. And/or print 'equal' after the if.


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Re: palindrome iteration

[MRAB]

On 27/08/2010 18:28, Mark Lawrence wrote:

On 27/08/2010 17:53, MRAB wrote:

On 27/08/2010 17:20, Mark Lawrence wrote:

On 27/08/2010 15:43, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:

Dave Angel a écrit :
(snip)


or (untested)
def is_palindrom(s):
s = s.lower()
return s == s[::-1]




Right, go on, make me feel a bit more stupid :-/
Who's next ?


It could be worse, try responding to issue 9702. :)


As a wise man once said: Ay caramba! :-)


Isn't that a syntax error? Shouldn't it be ¡Ay caramba! :)


I stand (OK, sit) corrected.
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Re: palindrome iteration

[Jussi Piitulainen]

Ian writes:

 If you want to or must  do it recursively.
 (Shown in pseudo code to make the logic clearer)
 
 def isPalindrome(pal)
  ''' test pal (a list) is a palindrome '''
  if length of pal = 1
  return True # all one letter strings are palindromes.
  if first equals last
  # pal could be a palindrome
  #  so test inner part
  p = pal with first and last removed
  return  isPalendrome(p)   #  and true - implied
  else
  return False # it can't be

def palindromep(s): 
return ( s ==  or
 ( s[0] == s[-1] and
   palindromep(s[1:-1]) ) )

 Of course, the simpler way is to use the definition of a Palindrome
 as the same backwards and forwards.
 
 def isPalindrome(pal)
  return pal == pal.reverse

Agreed. But is there any nicer way to spell .reverse than [::-1] in
Python? There is .swapcase() but no .reverse(), right?
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Re: mailbox.mbox not locking mbox properly

[Chris Jewell]

Even if you replace the python mbox code with something that uses
fcntl.flock() to protect against concurrent updating, you should also
understand that NFS does *not* provide full Unix filesystem semantics.
In particular, Unix flock(2) (which Python's fcntl.flock() wraps)
doesn't work over NFS.

That's why if you want to access mail over NFS, you should use maildir,
rather than mbox, no matter what your programming language.

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Re: numpy is not installed with Python2.

[justin]

On Aug 27, 12:10 pm, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 8/27/10 11:40 AM, justin wrote:





  My university has a cluster computer, on which I want to run my python
  program that uses numpy.
  I am installing my Python2.7 locally separated from the main system,
  and trying to install numpy, attach it with Python2.7.
  I used many different versions of numpys to make it happen, but I got
  stuck with the same following error on every trial,

  [...@login1 numpy]$ python2.7 setup.py install
  Running from numpy source directory.Traceback (most recent call last):
     File setup.py, line 210, inmodule
       setup_package()
     File setup.py, line 187, in setup_package
       from numpy.distutils.core import setup
     File /users/hp6/DOWN/numpy/numpy/distutils/core.py, line 25, in
  module
       from numpy.distutils.command import config, config_compiler, \
     File /users/hp6/DOWN/numpy/numpy/distutils/command/build_ext.py,
  line 9, inmodule
       from distutils.command.build_ext import build_ext as old_build_ext
     File /users/hp6/apps/python27/lib/python2.7/distutils/command/
  build_ext.py, line 13, inmodule
       from site import USER_BASE, USER_SITE
  ImportError: cannot import name USER_BASE

  It seems the error is related to the inability of Python2.7 to process
  from site import USER_BASE, USER_SITE,
  since the machine I succeeded to install numpy with Python2.7 doesn't
  prompt an error from this command,
  whereas this machine in which I failed to do so cannot handle this.

 Your Python installation appears to be broken. Find the site.py module that 
 you
 are actually importing. I.e. from the numpy source directory:

    $ python2.7 -c import site; print site.__file__

 This will tell you the site.pyc file that actually gets imported. Find the
 associated site.py file (it should be in the same directory) and check to see 
 if
 it has USER_BASE defined. The filename should be

    /users/hp6/apps/python27/lib/python2.7/site.pyc

 If it isn't, that may be the source of your problem.

 --
 Robert Kern

 I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
   that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it 
 had
   an underlying truth.
    -- Umberto Eco

Dear Kern,

Thanks a lot.
Your quick and detailed comment saves me a lot of time and effort
now.

It seems the file path links are out of order as you diagnosed.
Like you said, there is a site.py on /users/hp6/apps/python27/lib/
python2.7/.
But when I typed in $ python2.7 -c import site; print
site.__file__, it refers to another place:
/opt/apps/gurobi/3.0.0/linux64/lib/python2.5/site.pyc, and it
doesn't have USER_BASE!

So I changed the value of PYTHONPATH accordingly.

Thanks again,
Justin.
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Re: palindrome iteration

[Dave Angel]

Jussi Piitulainen wrote:

Ian writes:

  

If you want to or must  do it recursively.
(Shown in pseudo code to make the logic clearer)

def isPalindrome(pal)
 ''' test pal (a list) is a palindrome '''
 if length of pal = 1
 return True # all one letter strings are palindromes.
 if first equals last
 # pal could be a palindrome
 #  so test inner part
 p = pal with first and last removed
 return  isPalendrome(p)   #  and true - implied
 else
 return False # it can't be



def palindromep(s): 
return ( s ==  or

 ( s[0] == s[-1] and
   palindromep(s[1:-1]) ) )

  

Of course, the simpler way is to use the definition of a Palindrome
as the same backwards and forwards.

def isPalindrome(pal)
 return pal == pal.reverse



Agreed. But is there any nicer way to spell .reverse than [::-1] in
Python? There is .swapcase() but no .reverse(), right?

  
There can't be a .reverse() method on string, because it's immutable.  
You could use


   .join(reversed(pal))

but I'd prefer  pal[::-1]  as I said earlier.

DaveA

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Re: numpy is not installed with Python2.

[Robert Kern]

On 8/27/10 1:38 PM, justin wrote:

On Aug 27, 12:10 pm, Robert Kernrobert.k...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 8/27/10 11:40 AM, justin wrote:






My university has a cluster computer, on which I want to run my python
program that uses numpy.
I am installing my Python2.7 locally separated from the main system,
and trying to install numpy, attach it with Python2.7.
I used many different versions of numpys to make it happen, but I got
stuck with the same following error on every trial,



[...@login1 numpy]$ python2.7 setup.py install
Running from numpy source directory.Traceback (most recent call last):
File setup.py, line 210, inmodule
  setup_package()
File setup.py, line 187, in setup_package
  from numpy.distutils.core import setup
File /users/hp6/DOWN/numpy/numpy/distutils/core.py, line 25, in
module
  from numpy.distutils.command import config, config_compiler, \
File /users/hp6/DOWN/numpy/numpy/distutils/command/build_ext.py,
line 9, inmodule
  from distutils.command.build_ext import build_ext as old_build_ext
File /users/hp6/apps/python27/lib/python2.7/distutils/command/
build_ext.py, line 13, inmodule
  from site import USER_BASE, USER_SITE
ImportError: cannot import name USER_BASE



It seems the error is related to the inability of Python2.7 to process
from site import USER_BASE, USER_SITE,
since the machine I succeeded to install numpy with Python2.7 doesn't
prompt an error from this command,
whereas this machine in which I failed to do so cannot handle this.


Your Python installation appears to be broken. Find the site.py module that you
are actually importing. I.e. from the numpy source directory:

$ python2.7 -c import site; print site.__file__

This will tell you the site.pyc file that actually gets imported. Find the
associated site.py file (it should be in the same directory) and check to see if
it has USER_BASE defined. The filename should be

/users/hp6/apps/python27/lib/python2.7/site.pyc

If it isn't, that may be the source of your problem.

--
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I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
   that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
   an underlying truth.
-- Umberto Eco


Dear Kern,

Thanks a lot.
Your quick and detailed comment saves me a lot of time and effort
now.

It seems the file path links are out of order as you diagnosed.
Like you said, there is a site.py on /users/hp6/apps/python27/lib/
python2.7/.
But when I typed in $ python2.7 -c import site; print
site.__file__, it refers to another place:
/opt/apps/gurobi/3.0.0/linux64/lib/python2.5/site.pyc, and it
doesn't have USER_BASE!

So I changed the value of PYTHONPATH accordingly.


You should not set PYTHONPATH to those directories ever. The correct one will 
already be on the sys.path. In a multiple-Python environment, you simply 
shouldn't use PYTHONPATH at all since all of the interpreters will try to use it.


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 that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
 an underlying truth.
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Re: palindrome iteration

[D'Arcy J.M. Cain]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:02:39 -0400
D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:49:42 -0400
 D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote:
  is_palindrome = lambda x: x == x.lower()[::-1]
 
 Oops.  Simple and wrong.
 
 is_palindrome = lambda x: x.lower() == x.lower()[::-1]

slightly more efficient I think.

is_palindrome = lambda y: (lambda x: x == x[::-1])(y.lower())

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Jussi Piitulainen]

Dave Angel writes:

 Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
 Ian writes:
 Of course, the simpler way is to use the definition of a
 Palindrome as the same backwards and forwards.

 def isPalindrome(pal)
  return pal == pal.reverse

 Agreed. But is there any nicer way to spell .reverse than [::-1] in
 Python? There is .swapcase() but no .reverse(), right?

 There can't be a .reverse() method on string, because it's
 immutable. You could use
 
 .join(reversed(pal))
 
 but I'd prefer  pal[::-1]  as I said earlier.

There could easily be a .reverse() method on strings. It would return
the reversed string, like .swapcase() returns the swapcased string.
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Re: Queue cleanup

[John Nagle]

On 8/11/2010 1:26 PM, EW wrote:

On Aug 11, 2:52 pm, Paul Rubinno.em...@nospam.invalid  wrote:

EWericwoodwo...@gmail.com  writes:

Well I cared because I thought garbage collection would only happen
when the script ended - the entire script.  Since I plan on running
this as a service it'll run for months at a time without ending.  So I
thought I was going to have heaps of Queues hanging out in memory,
unreferenced and unloved.  It seemed like bad practice so I wanted to
get out ahead of it.


Even if GC worked that way it wouldn't matter, if you use just one queue
per type of task.  That number should be a small constant so the memory
consumption is small.


Well I can't really explain it but 1 Queue per task for what I'm
designing just doesn't feel right to me.  It feels like it will lack
future flexibility.  I like having 1 Queue per producer thread object
and the person instantiating that object can do whatever he wants with
that Queue.  I can't prove I'll need that level of flexibility but I
don't see why it' bad to have.  It's still a small number of Queues,
it's just a small, variable, number of Queues.


That's backwards.  Usually, you want one queue per unique consumer.
That is, if you have a queue that contains one kind of request,
there's one thread reading the queue, blocked until some other
thread puts something on the queue.  No polling is needed.

One consumer reading multiple queues is difficult to implement
well.

Note, by the way, that CPython isn't really concurrent.  Only
one thread runs at a time, due to an archaic implementation.  So
if your threads are compute-bound, even on a multicore CPU threading
will not help.

There's a multiprocessing module which allows spreading work
over several processes instead of threads.  That can be helpful
as a workaround.

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Re: palindrome iteration

[MRAB]

On 27/08/2010 20:43, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:

Dave Angel writes:


Jussi Piitulainen wrote:

Ian writes:

Of course, the simpler way is to use the definition of a
Palindrome as the same backwards and forwards.

def isPalindrome(pal)
  return pal == pal.reverse


Agreed. But is there any nicer way to spell .reverse than [::-1] in
Python? There is .swapcase() but no .reverse(), right?


There can't be a .reverse() method on string, because it's
immutable. You could use

 .join(reversed(pal))

but I'd prefer  pal[::-1]  as I said earlier.


There could easily be a .reverse() method on strings. It would return
the reversed string, like .swapcase() returns the swapcased string.


Lists have a .reverse method, but it's an in-place reversal. In order
to reduce confusion, a string method which returned the string reversed
would be better called .reversed().
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Re: mailbox.mbox not locking mbox properly

[John Nagle]

On 8/10/2010 2:25 AM, Chris Rebert wrote:

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:01 AM,tinn...@isbd.co.uk  wrote:

Tim Robertst...@probo.com  wrote:

tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote:


I'm using the python mailbox class in a script that processes incoming
mail and delivers it to various mbox format mailboxes.  It appears
that, although I am calling the lock method on the destination before
writing to the mbox and calling unlock afterwards the locking isn't
working correctly.
...
So it seems that python's mailbox class locking isn't playing nicely
with mutt's mailbox locking whereas postfix's locking does work
correctly.


Correct.  The dest.flush() method creates a temporary file, copies the
entire modified mailbox into it, removed the original file, and renames the
temp file into place.


Yes, I just took a look at the mailbox.py code and it does exactly
that which of course screws up just about any normal MUA looking at
the mbox.  Grr!



The Postfix MDA, like most MDAs, just opens the existing file and appends
the new data to it.


Has anyone seen this problem before, and/or do I need to anything more
than the following for the locking to work correctly:-


It's not the locking.  It's the flush mechanism.  The mbox class doesn't
know that the ONLY thing you did was an append.  You might have modified
other messages in the middle.  If you want to do an append, you'll need to
write your own subclass of mbox.


OK, thanks.  In reality I can probably just use straightforward file
reading and writing as the *only* thing I will ever be doing is to
append a message to a mailbox file.

I think there should be a big warning in the mailbox documentation to
this effect as doing it the way that Python's mailbox class does it
will break all sorts of things.  There should maybe be a specific
'append' method.


File a documentation and/or library bug:
http://bugs.python.org/

Cheers,
Chris


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Re: palindrome iteration

[Jussi Piitulainen]

MRAB writes:
 On 27/08/2010 20:43, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
 Dave Angel writes:
 Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
 Agreed. But is there any nicer way to spell .reverse than [::-1]
 in Python? There is .swapcase() but no .reverse(), right?

 There can't be a .reverse() method on string, because it's
 immutable. You could use

  .join(reversed(pal))

 but I'd prefer  pal[::-1]  as I said earlier.

 There could easily be a .reverse() method on strings. It would
 return the reversed string, like .swapcase() returns the swapcased
 string.
 
 Lists have a .reverse method, but it's an in-place reversal. In
 order to reduce confusion, a string method which returned the string
 reversed would be better called .reversed().

Yes, agreed.

Meanwhile, I have decided to prefer this:

def palindromep(s):
def reversed(s):
return s[::-1]
return s == reversed(s)
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Re: palindrome iteration

[Terry Reedy]

On 8/27/2010 3:43 PM, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:

Dave Angel writes:



There could easily be a .reverse() method on strings. It would return
the reversed string, like .swapcase() returns the swapcased string.


Could be, but the main use case seems to be for palindrome testing ;-)
Given that slicing and reversed() can do the same thing, the need is thin.

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Richard Arts]

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jussi Piitulainen
jpiit...@ling.helsinki.fi wrote:
 MRAB writes:
 On 27/08/2010 20:43, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
 Dave Angel writes:
 Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
 Agreed. But is there any nicer way to spell .reverse than [::-1]
 in Python? There is .swapcase() but no .reverse(), right?

 There can't be a .reverse() method on string, because it's
 immutable. You could use

      .join(reversed(pal))

 but I'd prefer  pal[::-1]  as I said earlier.

 There could easily be a .reverse() method on strings. It would
 return the reversed string, like .swapcase() returns the swapcased
 string.

 Lists have a .reverse method, but it's an in-place reversal. In
 order to reduce confusion, a string method which returned the string
 reversed would be better called .reversed().

 Yes, agreed.

 Meanwhile, I have decided to prefer this:

 def palindromep(s):
    def reversed(s):
        return s[::-1]
    return s == reversed(s)
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That seems like a bit of overkill... Why would you want to define a
function in a function for something trivial like this? Just

def palindrome(s):
return s[::-1]

will do fine.

Of course, you can stick the inner function in a library somewhere if you like.

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Re: palindrome iteration

[Richard Arts]

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Richard Arts arts.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jussi Piitulainen
 jpiit...@ling.helsinki.fi wrote:
 MRAB writes:
 On 27/08/2010 20:43, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
 Dave Angel writes:
 Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
 Agreed. But is there any nicer way to spell .reverse than [::-1]
 in Python? There is .swapcase() but no .reverse(), right?

 There can't be a .reverse() method on string, because it's
 immutable. You could use

      .join(reversed(pal))

 but I'd prefer  pal[::-1]  as I said earlier.

 There could easily be a .reverse() method on strings. It would
 return the reversed string, like .swapcase() returns the swapcased
 string.

 Lists have a .reverse method, but it's an in-place reversal. In
 order to reduce confusion, a string method which returned the string
 reversed would be better called .reversed().

 Yes, agreed.

 Meanwhile, I have decided to prefer this:

 def palindromep(s):
    def reversed(s):
        return s[::-1]
    return s == reversed(s)
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 That seems like a bit of overkill... Why would you want to define a
 function in a function for something trivial like this? Just

 def palindrome(s):
    return s[::-1]

 will do fine.

 Of course, you can stick the inner function in a library somewhere if you 
 like.

 Regards,
 Richard


Duh, of course I mean

def palindrome(s):
   return s == s[::-1]

I'm sorry.

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Re: Writing byte stream as jpeg format to disk

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

In message
mailman.64.1282843346.29448.python-l...@python.org, Navkirat Singh wrote:

 I receive a jpeg file with the POST method.The file (.jpeg) is encoded in
 bytes, I parse the bytes by decoding them to a string. I wanted to know
 how i could write the file (now a string) as a jpeg image on disk.

I assume the JPEG data is received along with other field values in the 
POST. You’ll be saving those other fields in a database, right? So why not 
save the JPEG image there as well?
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Re: Writing byte stream as jpeg format to disk

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

In message mailman.71.1282852048.29448.python-l...@python.org, Navkirat 
Singh wrote:

 The image bytes are a part of a HTTP header content ( not the message body
 ).

In which case, won’t they be in some encoding like Base-64? I don’t think 
you’re allowed arbitrary binary bytes in an HTTP header.
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Re: Reading the access attributes of directories in Windows

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

In message mailman.99.1282894128.29448.python-l...@python.org, Rami 
Chowdhury wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 05:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote:

 In message pan.2010.08.22.04.26.33.547...@nowhere.com, Nobody wrote:

 Having this as a separate permission allows normal users to add entries
 to log files but not to erase existing entries.

 Unix/Linux systems can do this already.
 
 Ooh, I didn't know that -- what combination of permissions would I
 have to use to get such an effect?

No special permissions needed at all—just use the syslog(3) functions.

And the nice thing is, you don’t have to know whether the system logs are 
kept on the local machine or on a remote machine, or how different 
categories of messages are divided up into different files, how log rotation 
is done, or anything like that—it’s all transparent.
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Re: Writing byte stream as jpeg format to disk

[Robert Kern]

On 8/27/10 5:58 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

In message
mailman.64.1282843346.29448.python-l...@python.org, Navkirat Singh wrote:


I receive a jpeg file with the POST method.The file (.jpeg) is encoded in
bytes, I parse the bytes by decoding them to a string. I wanted to know
how i could write the file (now a string) as a jpeg image on disk.


I assume the JPEG data is received along with other field values in the
POST. You’ll be saving those other fields in a database, right? So why not
save the JPEG image there as well?


No, the only thing in the body of the POST are the bytes of the JPEG. He was 
incorrect in thinking that the JPEG data was arriving in the header. See the 
later posts in the thread for complete answers to his problem.


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 that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
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ANN: ActivePython 2.6.6.15 is now available

[Sridhar Ratnakumar]

ActiveState is pleased to announce ActivePython 2.6.6.15, a complete, 
ready-to-install binary distribution of Python 2.6.6.


http://www.activestate.com/activepython

What's New in ActivePython-2.6.6.15
===

*Release date: 25-Aug-2010*

New Features  Upgrades
---

- Upgrade to Python 2.6.6 (`release notes 
http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.6/NEWS.txt`__)

- Security upgrade to openssl-0.9.8o
- [MacOSX] 64-bit support (PPC and 10.4 are no longer supported)
- Upgrade to PyPM 1.1.1; noteworthy changes:

  - Custom config file support w/ new repository settings (-R free,be 
instead of

-L)
  - Support for installing a local package, eg: ``pypm install
/path/to/foo.pypm``
  - Bug #87687: Prevent partial downloading of repo index cache

- Upgraded the following packages:

  - Distribute-0.6.14
  - pip-0.8
  - SQLAlchemy-0.6.3

Noteworthy Changes  Bug Fixes
--

- [MacOSX] Fix Help index on Snow Leopard (10.6) - Bug #87290
- [Windows] Add file extension to Tools\scripts\2to3.py - Bug #87465


What's New in ActivePython-2.6.5.14
===

*Release date: 07-Jul-2010*

New Features  Upgrades
---

- Upgrade to PyPM 1.0.2

  - 'pypm search' now also shows if a package is installed and upgradeable
  - 'pypm info' now prints a concise representation by default
  - 'pypm list --short' will show only packages names; for scripting 
purposes

  - Respect distutils install schemes (purelib, scripts)


Noteworthy Changes  Bug Fixes
--

- [MacOSX] Fix /usr/local/bin symlinks to not use the 'Current' symlink
- [MacOSX] Fix uninstall on Snow Leopard (10.6)
- [Windows] Include IDLE in the Start Menu shortcut, instead of PythonWin


See the release notes for full details:

http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.6/relnotes.html#changes


What is ActivePython?
=

ActivePython is ActiveState's binary distribution of Python. Builds for 
Windows, Mac OS X, Linux are made freely available. Solaris, HP-UX and 
AIX builds, and access to older versions are available in ActivePython 
Business, Enterprise and OEM editions:


http://www.activestate.com/python

ActivePython includes the Python core and the many core extensions: zlib 
and bzip2 for data compression, the Berkeley DB (bsddb) and SQLite 
(sqlite3) database libraries, OpenSSL bindings for HTTPS support, the 
Tix GUI widgets for Tkinter, ElementTree for XML processing, ctypes (on 
supported platforms) for low-level library access, and others. The 
Windows distribution ships with PyWin32 -- a suite of Windows tools 
developed by Mark Hammond, including bindings to the Win32 API and 
Windows COM.


ActivePython 2.6 and 2.7 also include a binary package manager for 
Python (PyPM) that can be used to install packages much easily. For example:


  C:\pypm install mysql-python
  [...]

  C:\python
   import MySQLdb
  

See this page for full details:

http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.6/whatsincluded.html

As well, ActivePython ships with a wealth of documentation for both new 
and experienced Python programmers. In addition to the core Python docs, 
ActivePython includes the What's New in Python series, Dive into 
Python, the Python FAQs  HOWTOs, and the Python Enhancement Proposals 
(PEPs).


An online version of the docs can be found here:

http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.6/

We would welcome any and all feedback to:

activepython-feedb...@activestate.com

Please file bugs against ActivePython at:

http://bugs.activestate.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=ActivePython

Supported Platforms
===

ActivePython is available for the following platforms:

- Windows/x86   (32-bit)
- Windows/x64   (64-bit) (aka AMD64)
- Mac OS X
- Linux/x86 (32-bit)
- Linux/x86_64  (64-bit) (aka AMD64)

- Solaris/SPARC (32-bit and 64-bit) (Business, Enterprise or OEM edition 
only)
- Solaris/x86   (32-bit)(Business, Enterprise or OEM edition 
only)
- HP-UX/PA-RISC (32-bit)(Business, Enterprise or OEM edition 
only)

- HP-UX/IA-64   (32-bit and 64-bit) (Enterprise or OEM edition only)
- AIX/PowerPC   (32-bit and 64-bit) (Business, Enterprise or OEM edition 
only)


More information about the Business Edition can be found here:

http://www.activestate.com/business-edition

Custom builds are available in the Enterprise Edition:

http://www.activestate.com/enterprise-edition

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ANN: ActivePython 2.7.0.2 is now available

[Sridhar Ratnakumar]

ActiveState is pleased to announce ActivePython 2.7.0.2, a complete, 
ready-to-install binary distribution of Python 2.7.


http://www.activestate.com/activepython

What's New in ActivePython-2.7.0.2
==

*Release date: 25-Aug-2010*

New Features  Upgrades
---

- Security upgrade to openssl-0.9.8o
- Upgrade to PyPM 1.1.1; noteworthy changes:

  - Custom config file support w/ new repository settings (-R free,be 
instead of

-L)
  - Support for installing a local package, eg: ``pypm install
/path/to/foo.pypm``
  - Bug #87687: Prevent partial downloading of repo index cache

- Upgraded the following packages:

  - Distribute-0.6.14
  - pip-0.8
  - SQLAlchemy-0.6.3


Noteworthy Changes  Bug Fixes
--

- [MacOSX] Fix Help index on Snow Leopard (10.6) - Bug #87290
- [Windows] Add file extension to Tools\scripts\2to3.py - Bug #87465


What is ActivePython?
=

ActivePython is ActiveState's binary distribution of Python. Builds for 
Windows, Mac OS X, Linux are made freely available. Solaris, HP-UX and 
AIX builds, and access to older versions are available in ActivePython 
Business, Enterprise and OEM editions:


http://www.activestate.com/python

ActivePython includes the Python core and the many core extensions: zlib 
and bzip2 for data compression, the Berkeley DB (bsddb) and SQLite 
(sqlite3) database libraries, OpenSSL bindings for HTTPS support, the 
Tix GUI widgets for Tkinter, ElementTree for XML processing, ctypes (on 
supported platforms) for low-level library access, and others. The 
Windows distribution ships with PyWin32 -- a suite of Windows tools 
developed by Mark Hammond, including bindings to the Win32 API and 
Windows COM.


ActivePython 2.6 and 2.7 also include a binary package manager for 
Python (PyPM) that can be used to install packages much easily. For example:


  C:\pypm install mysql-python
  [...]

  C:\python
   import MySQLdb
  

See this page for full details:

http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.7/whatsincluded.html

As well, ActivePython ships with a wealth of documentation for both new 
and experienced Python programmers. In addition to the core Python docs, 
ActivePython includes the What's New in Python series, Dive into 
Python, the Python FAQs  HOWTOs, and the Python Enhancement Proposals 
(PEPs).


An online version of the docs can be found here:

http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.7/

We would welcome any and all feedback to:

activepython-feedb...@activestate.com

Please file bugs against ActivePython at:

http://bugs.activestate.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=ActivePython

Supported Platforms
===

ActivePython is available for the following platforms:

- Windows/x86   (32-bit)
- Windows/x64   (64-bit) (aka AMD64)
- Mac OS X
- Linux/x86 (32-bit)
- Linux/x86_64  (64-bit) (aka AMD64)

- Solaris/SPARC (32-bit and 64-bit) (Business, Enterprise or OEM edition 
only)
- Solaris/x86   (32-bit)(Business, Enterprise or OEM edition 
only)
- HP-UX/PA-RISC (32-bit)(Business, Enterprise or OEM edition 
only)

- HP-UX/IA-64   (32-bit and 64-bit) (Enterprise or OEM edition only)
- AIX/PowerPC   (32-bit and 64-bit) (Business, Enterprise or OEM edition 
only)


More information about the Business Edition can be found here:

http://www.activestate.com/business-edition

Custom builds are available in the Enterprise Edition:

http://www.activestate.com/enterprise-edition

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Re: ftplib limitations?

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

In message 4c74e604.6090...@sschwarzer.net, Stefan Schwarzer wrote:

 Now it may be that the data connection, after having started
 the transfer, works as it should, but the control connection
 times out because the duration of the transfer is too long.

It might not be the fault of the FTP server. If you’re going through a 
router doing NAT, that could be where the timeout is happening.

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How to convert (unicode) text to image?

[kj]

Hi!  Does anyone know of an easy way to convert a Unicode string into an image 
file (either jpg or png)?

TIA!

~k


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Re: Overload print

[genxtech]

On Aug 25, 5:18 pm, Ross Williamson rosswilliamson@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hi All

 Is there anyway in a class to overload the print function?

  class foo_class():
       pass
  cc = foo_class()
  print cc

 Gives:

 __main__.foo_class instance at 

 Can I do something like:

  class foo_class():
      def __print__(self):
            print hello
  cc = foo_class()
  print cc

 Gives:

 hello

 I'm looking at finding nice way to print variables in a class just by
 asking to print it

 Cheers

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Are you talking about overriding print(), kind of like overloading the
 operator in c++ so that you can determine how the foo_class gets
printed?
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Re: Queue cleanup

[Steven D'Aprano]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:16:52 -0700, Aahz wrote:

 In article mailman.1967.1281549328.1673.python-l...@python.org, MRAB 
 pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:

An object will be available for garbage collection when nothing refers
to it either directly or indirectly. If it's unreferenced then it will
go away.
 
 This isn't actually garbage collection as most people think of it.
 Refcounting semantics mean that objects get reaped as soon as nothing
 points at them.  OTOH, CPython does also have garbage collection to back
 up refcounting so that when you have unreferenced object cycles they
 don't stay around.


I've repeatedly asked, both here and elsewhere, why reference counting 
isn't real garbage collection. Nobody has been able to give me a 
satisfactory answer. As far as I can tell, it's a bit of pretentiousness 
with no basis in objective fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_science)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference_counting

Reference counting is one specific kind of garbage collection, and like 
all gc strategies, it has strengths as well as weaknesses. It is *simple* 
to implement (which may be why a certain class of programmer likes to 
think it isn't real gc). When it runs is deterministic, and is 
immediate upon the resource being freed. The overhead is very light (a 
plus) and continuous (which can be both a plus and a minus). It is better 
suited to managing scarce resources like open files than are tracing 
garbage collectors. It avoids the embarrassing pause of tracing 
collectors. It doesn't deal well with reference cycles, and (at least 
with Python's implementation of ref counting) it causes performance 
issues with threaded applications.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_science)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference_counting

So CPython has two garbage collectors -- a reference counting 
implementation, and a tracing implementation. Jython and IronPython use 
the native garbage collectors from Java and .Net. Other Pythons may use 
something else.


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Re: How to convert (unicode) text to image?

[Benjamin Kaplan]

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:01 PM, kj no.em...@please.post wrote:


 Hi!  Does anyone know of an easy way to convert a Unicode string into an 
 image file (either jpg or png)?


Do you mean you have some text and you want an image containing that
text? PIL's ImageDraw module can do that.
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Re: Queue cleanup

[Paul Rubin]

Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au writes:
 I've repeatedly asked, both here and elsewhere, why reference counting 
 isn't real garbage collection. Nobody has been able to give me a 
 satisfactory answer. As far as I can tell, it's a bit of pretentiousness 
 with no basis in objective fact.

Well, it's a bit of a subjective matter.  I'd say it's not real gc
because 1) it's unsound (misses reference cycles), and 2) it requires
constant attention from the mutator to incr and decr the reference
counts.  So developing modules for the CPython API means endlessly
finding and fixing refcount bugs that lead to either crashes/security
failures, or memory leaks.  If you program the Java JNI or a typical
Lisp FFI, you'll find that real gc is a lot simpler to use since you
avoid all the refcount maintenance hassles.  You allocate memory and
shut your eyes, and the gc takes care of freeing it when it figures out
that you are done.  Refcounting is basically a form of manual memory
management, while gc is automatic.  

Someone said here recently that as a program gets larger, saying this
will work as long as we do X every time without fail becomes equal to
saying this won't work.  Substitute properly maintain all ref counts
for X and you can see the problem.  I've seen released production
tested Python C modules with subtle refcount bugs on more than one
occasion.  In gc'd systems there are fewer places for the code to go
wrong.
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Walking deeply nested lists

[donn]

This is all about walking trees, recursion and generators. None of which 
fit my brain at all!


From an XML tree (an SVG file) I build a bunch of Tag objects.

[I use lxml, but I am combining multiple svg files into a 'forest' of 
trees, so I can't use the lxml walking methods because they all stop at 
the 'end' of a branch where there is actually a 'link' over to another 
tree.]


Each Tag has a flatwalk() method. The return from that is a list which 
can be deeply nested. As an example, something like this:

L=[1, [2, 3, [4, [5, 6], 7], 8], [9, 10] ]

(The numbers in the example would actually be Tag Instances.)

Aim 1
---
I'm trying to write a generator around such lists so that I can 'walk' them:

for parent, child in mystery_generator(L):
 print level, item

Right now, I am running a 'flatten' function on the entire list (which I 
don't savvy, I found it online) and then I iterate over that flattened 
list. This doesn't feel right to me. (Code at end.)


Aim 2
---
The Objects that represent the svg tags use that flatwalk() method to 
build the nested list, I'd far prefer flatwalk() to be directly useable 
in something like this way:


for container, child in some_tag.flatwalk():
 print container, child

The flatwalk() function is (and this is another puzzle see *) kind of 
recursive. For each of my children, tell that child to go flatwalk().

(Code at end.)
I am not sure how to turn such a thing into a generator.

I keep wondering how os.walk() does its thing. My hierarchy of Tag 
objects can be thought of as directories (tags:g, symbol, svg), files 
(path, circle, etc.) and soft-links (use tags).


* If an Instance calls a method on *another* Instance of the *same* 
class, is this still recursion? And how does this 'stack up'? I mean, 
literally, on the stack. Does each instance get its own stack, or does 
all the push, call, pop stuff happen in one main stack?

(I worry about recursion depth limits because svg trees can get quite deep.)


The walking code so far:

## Found code.
def flatten(input):
 output = []
 stack = []
 stack.extend(reversed(input))
 while stack:
  top = stack.pop()
  if isinstance(top, list):
   stack.extend(reversed(top))
  else:
   output.append(top)
 return output

## My walker
def test_walk(e): #lxml Element comes in
 obj = ebag_get(e)['obj'] #get a tag object
 l=obj.flatwalk()
 ll= flatten(l)
 #No current solution to get 'parent' in this iterator
 #ie. for parent, child in ...
 for tag in ll:
  print tag

Here's one of my Tag objects:

class Brancher(object):
  def __init__(self, elem):
self.elem = elem
self.children = []

  def flatwalk(self):
l=[self]
for child in self.children:
  l.append( child.flatwalk() ) #recur(ish)ion here
return l

class G( Brancher ): #Object for g tags.
  pass

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Re: Reading the access attributes of directories in Windows

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

In message mailman.2396.1282396255.1673.python-l...@python.org, Tim Golden 
wrote:

 Can you run Python from within a Run-As-Administrator command
 prompt?

Kind of worrying, isn’t it, when the answer to “my program won’t work” is 
“give it more privileges”? Defeats the point of having such a complex 
security system, doesn’t it, when people are no longer able to understand 
its ramifications, and have to resort to bypassing it to get work done?
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[issue9697] python 2.3.4 installation error on 64 bit env

[Martin v . Löwis]

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

Python 2.7 and Python 3.1 are supported for bug fixes.

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[issue8296] multiprocessing.Pool hangs when issuing KeyboardInterrupt

[Greg Brockman]

Changes by Greg Brockman g...@mit.edu:


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[issue9698] When reusing an handler, urllib(2)'s digest authentication fails after multiple regative replies

[Luci Stanescu]

New submission from Luci Stanescu luci.stane...@gmail.com:

Hi,

The HTTPDigestAuthHandler's code looks like this:

def http_error_401(self, req, fp, code, msg, headers):
host = urlparse(req.full_url)[1]
retry = self.http_error_auth_reqed('www-authenticate',
   host, req, headers)
self.reset_retry_count()
return retry

After successful authentication, the HTTP server might still return an error 
code, such as 404 or 304. In that case, self.http_error_auth_reqed raises the 
appropriate HTTPError and self.reset_retry_count is not called. I think that 
the code should be something along the lines of:

try:
  retry = self.http_error_auth_reqed('www-authenticate', host, req, headers)
except HTTPError, e:
  if e.code != 401:
self.reset_retry_counter()
  raise
else:
  self.reset_retry_counter()
  return retry

Ways to reproduce the problem: try to access a resource for which an HTTP 
server requires authentication but for which after successful authentication 
returns a negative reply. I've attached an example script to demonstrate it 
(for python 2.X; bug also resent in 3.X, just replace import urllib2 with from 
urllib import request as urllib2 ;-) ).

The same problem applies to ProxyDigestAuthHandler.

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priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: When reusing an handler, urllib(2)'s digest authentication fails after 
multiple regative replies
type: behavior
versions: Python 2.5, Python 2.6, Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2, Python 3.3
Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file18656/test_urllib2.py

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[issue9690] Cannot distinguish bstr from str in ast module.

[Kay Hayen]

Kay Hayen kayha...@gmx.de added the comment:

This is to inform you that I worked around the bug by reading the source file 
in question and checking the indicated position. This is currently the only way 
to decide if a literal should be unicode or str with unicode_literals from 
future imported.

It goes like this:

kind = _sources[ filename ][ node.lineno - 1][ node.col_offset ]

if kind != 'b':
value = unicode( node.s )
else:
value = node.s


I don't see how removing the ambgious representation of what I presume is a 
wanted language construct can be considered a new feature. But that is your 
decision to make.

Best regards,
Kay Hayen

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[issue9119] Python download page needs to mention crypto code in Windows installer

[Marc-Andre Lemburg]

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Martin v. Löwis wrote:
 
 Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
 
 Which specific clause of the license do you consider violated?

 * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
 *software must display the following acknowledgment:
 *This product includes software developed by the OpenSSL Project
 *for use in the OpenSSL Toolkit. (http://www.openssl.org/)

 * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
 *must display the following acknowledgement:
 *This product includes cryptographic software written by
 * Eric Young (e...@cryptsoft.com)
 *The word 'cryptographic' can be left out if the rouines from the library
 *being used are not cryptographic related :-).
 * 4. If you include any Windows specific code (or a derivative thereof) from
 *the apps directory (application code) you must include an acknowledgement:
 *This product includes software written by Tim Hudson 
(t...@cryptsoft.com)

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[issue9119] Python download page needs to mention crypto code in Windows installer

[Marc-Andre Lemburg]

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I'd suggest to add a paragraph like this to the release pages:


The Python Windows installers include OpenSSL, which provides cryptographic
services to Python. Please note that downloading or using cryptographic
code may not be legal in your country of residence. It is your responsibility
to make sure you meet all local import and use requirements for cryptographic
code when downloading and using the Python Windows installers.

OpenSSL Notice: This product includes cryptographic software written by Eric 
Young
(e...@cryptsoft.com). This product includes software written by Tim Hudson 
(t...@cryptsoft.com). This
product includes software developed by the OpenSSL Project for use in the 
OpenSSL Toolkit.
(http://www.openssl.org/)


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[issue9694] argparse: Default Help Message Lists Required Args As Optional

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I guess one possibility might be flag arguments. It's not great, but I guess 
it's more accurate.

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[issue9694] argparse: Default Help Message Lists Required Args As Optional

[Steven Bethard]

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And I guess the bigger issue to think about is how to add this in a backwards 
compatible way. I guess we could just add methods like 
set_positionals_group_name(name) and then fiddle with 
self._positionals.title in there. Not sure that's a great solution though - 
it seems like adding one method to change just this single attribute is 
overkill and not very general.

In the meantime, here's a workaround:

 parser = argparse.ArgumentParser(prog='PROG')
 parser.add_argument('--foo', required=True)
 parser._optionals.title = flag arguments
 parser.print_help()
usage: PROG [-h] --foo FOO

flag arguments:
  -h, --help  show this help message and exit
  --foo FOO

I can't promise this will continue to work, since it uses the undocumented 
_optionals attribute, but at least it's a way of getting something like what 
you want now.

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[issue8797] urllib2 basicauth broken in 2.6.5: RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in cmp

[Mads Kiilerich]

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On 08/27/2010 03:47 AM, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
 I agree with you respect to the other error codes, there is already
 another bug open to handle this. The reset counter is reset on success
 too, in another part of the code.

FWIW: From Mercurial it is our experience that the reset counter only 
gets reset on errors, never on success.

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[issue9695] Return from generators in Python 3.2

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Why is a run-time exception better than a SyntaxError in this case?
And your patch now allows:
   x = None
   return x
What's the rationale of this change?

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[issue9699] invalid call of Windows API _popen() generating The input line is too long error message

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Behavior: you get The input line is too long. error message when you try to 
run an external process by using os.system(), subprocess.Popen() or other 
similar methods.

The real command line limit is 8192 under Windows and in most cases (if not 
all) the cause for getting this message is not the length.

The real cause is that if you even have a quote inside your command line you 
need to include the entire command in quote.

Here are some details:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/682799/what-to-do-with-the-input-line-is-too-long-error-message/3583282#3583282
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/96ayss4b.aspx (see comment)

Even if this is caused by a bug on Windows that is present for more than ten 
years I think Python needs to workaround it by adding the quotes when they are 
needed.

This will prevent other developers from writing OS specific code in their 
Python programs in order to workaround this bug.

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[issue8695] Issue while installing Python 2.6.5 in IBM AIX 6.1

[Sébastien Sablé]

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I used to have the same problem with Python 2.6.5 and AIX 6.1.

Since I updated to Python 2.6.6, the problem does not appear anymore.

So I think it has been corrected between 2.6.5 and 2.6.6.

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[issue8695] Issue while installing Python 2.6.5 in IBM AIX 6.1

[Sébastien Sablé]

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Actually, I had the problem with Python 2.6.4 on AIX 6.1, I did not try Python 
2.6.5.

But Python 2.6.6 compiles fine on AIX 6.1.

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[issue9205] Parent process hanging in multiprocessing if children terminate unexpectedly

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 Does the problem make sense/do you have any ideas for an alternate
 solution?

Well, I still haven't given up on the trackjobs patch. I changed it to use a 
single queue for both the acks and the result (see new patch attached:  
multiprocessing-tr...@82502-termination-trackjobs2.patch)

Been running it in production for a few days now, and it seems to work. But the 
tests still hangs from time to time, it seems they hang more frequent now than 
in the first patch (this may actually be a good thing:)

Would you like to try and identify the cause of this hang? Still haven't been 
able to.

I'm not sure about the overhead of using one queue per process either, but I'm 
usually running about 8 processes per CPU core for IO bound jobs (adding more 
processes after that usually doesn't affect performance in positive ways). 
There's also the overhead of the synchronization (ACK). Not sure if this is 
important performance-wise, but at least this makes it harder for me to reason 
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[issue9119] Python download page needs to mention crypto code in Windows installer

[Martin v . Löwis]

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 Which specific clause of the license do you consider violated?
 
  * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
  *software must display the following acknowledgment:
  *This product includes software developed by the OpenSSL Project
  *for use in the OpenSSL Toolkit. (http://www.openssl.org/)

I fail to see the violation, or how changing the download page could
fix that. The download page is *not* advertising material mentioning
features or use of this software. In fact, the download page doesn't
refer to SSL at all. Hence there is no obligation to mention OpenSSL
on the download page.

  * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
  *must display the following acknowledgement:
  *This product includes cryptographic software written by
  * Eric Young (e...@cryptsoft.com)

Likewise.

  * 4. If you include any Windows specific code (or a derivative thereof) from
  *the apps directory (application code) you must include an 
 acknowledgement:
  *This product includes software written by Tim Hudson 
 (t...@cryptsoft.com)

This doesn't apply: we don't include any code (Windows specific or not)
from the apps directory.

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[issue9119] Python download page needs to mention crypto code in Windows installer

[Martin v . Löwis]

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 I'd suggest to add a paragraph like this to the release pages:

-1, unless the PSF lawyer advises that such a paragraph is indeed
necessary. It may shy away users from using Python, which is clearly
undesirable.

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[issue9700] semaphore errors on AIX 6.1

[Sébastien Sablé]

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Hi,

The same problem that was reported in issue 1106262 is appearing again on AIX 
6.1 (the following error messages appear sometime when runnning python:
sem_trywait: Permission denied
sem_post: Permission denied
sem_destroy: Permission denied)

It can be easily corrected by defining HAVE_BROKEN_POSIX_SEMAPHORES for AIX 6, 
like it is done for AIX 5.

I attach a patch that does that (I made the patch on Python 2.6.6 but it should 
apply to Python 2.7 and 3.X as well).

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[issue9652] Tidy argparse default output

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[issue9694] argparse: Default Help Message Lists Required Args As Optional

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Well, there's also issue 9652, which speaks to having a more general facility, 
I suppose.  Maybe an exposed dictionary attribute containing the constant 
strings?

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[issue9698] When reusing an handler, urllib(2)'s digest authentication fails after multiple regative replies

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[issue5573] multiprocessing Pipe poll() and recv() semantics.

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[issue8797] urllib2 basicauth broken in 2.6.5: RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in cmp

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See also new issue 9698.

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[issue3125] test_multiprocessing causes test_ctypes to fail

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[issue9701] Update ZSH profile on Mac OS installation

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[issue9701] Update ZSH profile on Mac OS installation

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Hi,

The Update Shell Profile.command script does not allow to update ZSH profile on 
Mac OS. I wrote a small patch to allow it. It simply adds the modified PATH in 
the file .zprofile.
  
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[issue9699] invalid call of Windows API _popen() generating The input line is too long error message

[R. David Murray]

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Python does not call _popen, though it does call cmd.exe (through 
CreateProcess) when shell=True in subprocess.  Can you provide an example that 
shows this error occurring?

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[issue9690] Cannot distinguish bstr from str in ast module.

[Benjamin Peterson]

Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org added the comment:

2010/8/27 Kay Hayen rep...@bugs.python.org:

 Kay Hayen kayha...@gmx.de added the comment:

 This is to inform you that I worked around the bug by reading the source file 
 in question and checking the indicated position. This is currently the only 
 way to decide if a literal should be unicode or str with unicode_literals 
 from future imported.

I see. I'm not really sure what you're problem is again because if
unicode_literals is in effect, the AST will have decoded the literal
into unicode.

Module(body=[ImportFrom(module='__future__',
names=[alias(name='unicode_literals', asname=None)], level=0),
Expr(value=Tuple(elts=[Str(s=u's'), Str(s=u's')], ctx=Load()))])

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[issue9698] When reusing an handler, urllib(2)'s digest authentication fails after multiple regative replies

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[issue6056] socket.setdefaulttimeout affecting multiprocessing Manager

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[issue9702] Python violates most users expectations via the modification differences of immutable and mutable objects in methods

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Python violates most users expectations via the modification differences of 
immutable and mutable objects in methods.

def foo(bar):
bar = bar + bar

def listy(bar):
bar =  [1]

def dicty(bar):
bar['1'] = '1'

if __name__ == __main__:
bar = 1
foo(bar)
print bar
baz = []
print baz
listy(baz)
print baz
dict_d = {}
print dict_d
dicty(dict_d)
print dict_d

this will output
1
[]
[]
{}
{'1': '1'}


So sure this is 'expected'(pass by reference vs new object - for immutable 
objects) but it sure isn't obvious.
I feel this is a bug in python core.
I think that the behaviour should be the same for *all* objects.
If it is pass by reference, *and* the item has to be able to be updated(I feel 
this breaks most people's expectations...) then the result of a modification to 
an object that is immutable should be that the pointer to the original now 
points to the resulting string. 

Personally I do not want to be able to modify the dictionary as I did above 
like I did.

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[issue6417] multiprocessing Process examples: print and getppid

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[issue3518] multiprocessing: BaseManager.from_address documented but doesn't exist

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[issue6653] Potential memory leak in multiprocessing

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[issue9702] Python violates most users expectations via the modification differences of immutable and mutable objects in methods

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Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 I feel this breaks most people's expectations...

I think you are quite mistaken in this assumption. Sure, object references are 
difficult to grasp at first, but they are a highly useful concept, and follow 
very simple, systematic principles - you just need to get it once.

 result of a modification to an object that is immutable

Objects that are immutable *cannot* be modified - that this the very definition 
of immutable. It seems that your understanding of Python still doesn't match 
its semantics.

However, Python really can't adjust to whatever your current understanding is: 
most people (dealing with it) already have the right understanding.

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[issue9699] invalid call of Windows API _popen() generating The input line is too long error message

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I'm currently building some samples (one that could be run on any Windows 
machine).

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[issue9119] Python download page needs to mention crypto code in Windows installer

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Martin v. Löwis wrote:
 
 Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
 
 Which specific clause of the license do you consider violated?

  * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
  *software must display the following acknowledgment:
  *This product includes software developed by the OpenSSL Project
  *for use in the OpenSSL Toolkit. (http://www.openssl.org/)
 
 I fail to see the violation, or how changing the download page could
 fix that. The download page is *not* advertising material mentioning
 features or use of this software. In fact, the download page doesn't
 refer to SSL at all. Hence there is no obligation to mention OpenSSL
 on the download page.
 
  * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
  *must display the following acknowledgement:
  *This product includes cryptographic software written by
  * Eric Young (e...@cryptsoft.com)
 
 Likewise.

The license only permits you to use and distribute OpenSSL under
the conditions mentioned in the license.

Since we are not following those old-style BSD license requirements
(which are unfortunate), we are not allowed to use the software:

The python.org site is full of references to OpenSSL. Most
prominently in the documentation of the ssl and hashlib modules,
but also in the release notes/news and other files.
By contrast, the name Eric Young does not appear anywhere
on the site (according to a Google search).

We can remedy this easily, but putting the notices on the download
pages. Perhaps just putting them into the documentation is already
good enough.

  * 4. If you include any Windows specific code (or a derivative thereof) from
  *the apps directory (application code) you must include an 
 acknowledgement:
  *This product includes software written by Tim Hudson 
 (t...@cryptsoft.com)
 
 This doesn't apply: we don't include any code (Windows specific or not)
 from the apps directory.

Ok, so we don't have to add this part.

 I'd suggest to add a paragraph like this to the release pages:

 -1, unless the PSF lawyer advises that such a paragraph is indeed
 necessary. It may shy away users from using Python, which is clearly
 undesirable.

So you'd rather have some users get in trouble for downloading
and using crypto software, due import laws or domestic laws
restricting its use in their country ?

Deliberately hiding this information from the user, doesn't
sound like a good approach to the problem. However, I agree
that this is a question to ask the PSF board.

There's probably a better wording for such a text, but some kind of
note of caution needs to go on the website.

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