Wing IDE 5.0.1 released
Hi, Wingware has released version 5.0.1 of Wing IDE, our integrated development environment designed specifically for the Python programming language. Wing IDE includes a professional quality code editor with vi, emacs, and other key bindings, auto-completion, call tips, refactoring, context-aware auto-editing, a powerful graphical debugger, version control, unit testing, search, and many other features. For details see http://wingware.com/ Changes in this minor release include: * Support for Python 3.4beta1+ * Fix file type registration on OS X * Fix potential segfault after using tab to move from field to field * Fix creating and renaming snippets and snippets tool drop down menu * Fix exception when closing windows and failure to quit on win32 * Optimize message tool, which could substantially slow down the IDE * Fix problems setting custom colors via the Editor - Syntax Coloring preferences * Updates and corrections in French localization (thanks to Jean Sanchez) * Fix intermittant failure to include all selected files in a version control operation * Fix switching to alphabetizing file tabs and keeping active tab visible when there are 2+ splits * 21 other bug fixes For details see http://wingware.com/pub/wingide/5.0.1/CHANGELOG.txt New features in Wing 5 include: * Now runs native on OS X * Draggable tools and editors * Configurable toolbar and editor project context menus * Optionally opens a different sets of files in each editor split * Lockable editor splits * Optional Python Turbo completion (context-appropriate completion on all non-symbol keys) * Sharable color palettes and syntax highlighting configurations * Auto-editing is on by default (except some operations that have a learning curve) * Named file sets * Sharable launch configurations * Asynchronous I/O in Debug Probe and Python Shell * Expanded and rewritten tutorial * Support for Python 3.4 For more information on what's new in Wing 5, see http://wingware.com/wingide/whatsnew Free trial: http://wingware.com/wingide/trial Downloads: http://wingware.com/downloads Feature matrix: http://wingware.com/wingide/features Sales: http://wingware.com/store/purchase Upgrades: https://wingware.com/store/upgrade Questions? Don't hesitate to email us at supp...@wingware.com. Thanks, -- Stephan Deibel Wingware | Python IDE Advancing Software Development www.wingware.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
ANN: eGenix mx Base Distribution 3.2.7 (mxDateTime, mxTextTools, etc.)
ANNOUNCING eGenix.com mx Base Distribution mxDateTime, mxTextTools, mxProxy, mxURL, mxUID, mxBeeBase, mxStack, mxQueue, mxTools Version 3.2.7 Open Source Python extensions providing important and useful services for Python programmers. This announcement is also available on our web-site for online reading: http://www.egenix.com/company/news/eGenix-mx-Base-Distribution-3.2.7-GA.html ABOUT The eGenix.com mx Base Distribution for Python is a collection of professional quality software tools which enhance Python's usability in many important areas such as fast text searching, date/time processing and high speed data types. The tools have a proven record of being portable across many Unix and Windows platforms. You can write applications which use the tools on Windows and then run them on Unix platforms without change due to the consistent platform independent interfaces. Contents of the distribution: * mxDateTime - Easy to use Date/Time Library for Python * mxTextTools - Fast Text Parsing and Processing Tools for Python * mxProxy - Object Access Control for Python * mxBeeBase - On-disk B+Tree Based Database Kit for Python * mxURL - Flexible URL Data-Type for Python * mxUID - Fast Universal Identifiers for Python * mxStack - Fast and Memory-Efficient Stack Type for Python * mxQueue - Fast and Memory-Efficient Queue Type for Python * mxTools - Fast Everyday Helpers for Python The package also include a number of helpful smaller modules in the mx.Misc subpackage, such as mx.Misc.ConfigFile for config file parsing or mx.Misc.CommandLine to quickly write command line applications in Python. All available packages have proven their stability and usefulness in many mission critical applications and various commercial settings all around the world. For more information, please see the distribution page: http://www.egenix.com/products/python/mxBase/ NEWS The 3.2.7 release of the eGenix mx Base Distribution is the latest release of our open-source Python extensions. It includes these fixes and enhancements: Fixes - * mxBeeBase: Fixed a problem with using larger BeeDict keysizes on 64-bit platforms. These now work for keysizes between 25 and 659 characters as well. Also extended the possible keysizes for 32-bit platform to 670 characters. Thanks to Andrey Rzhetsky for pointing us to the problem. * mx.Misc.FileLock: Fixed a typo in a FileLock class name. eGenix mx Base Distribution 3.2.0 was release on 2012-08-28. Please see the eGenix mx Base Distribution 3.2.0 announcement for new features in the 3.2 major release: http://www.egenix.com/company/news/eGenix-mx-Base-Distribution-3.2.0-GA.html For a full list of changes, please refer to the eGenix mx Base Distribution change log and the change logs of the various included Python packages. http://www.egenix.com/products/python/mxBase/changelog.html UPGRADING We encourage all users to upgrade to this latest eGenix mx Base Distribution release. If you are upgrading from eGenix mx Base 3.1.x, please see the eGenix mx Base Distribution 3.2.0 release notes for details on what has changed since the 3.1 major release. http://www.egenix.com/company/news/eGenix-mx-Base-Distribution-3.2.0-GA.html For a full list of changes, please refer to the eGenix mx Base Distribution change log at http://www.egenix.com/products/python/mxBase/changelog.html and the change logs of the various included Python packages. LICENSE The eGenix mx Base package is distributed under the eGenix.com Public License 1.1.0 which is an Open Source license similar to the Python license. You can use the packages in both commercial and non-commercial settings without fee or charge. The package comes with full source code DOWNLOADS The download archives and instructions for installing the packages can be found on the eGenix mx Base Distribution page: http://www.egenix.com/products/python/mxBase/ As always, we are providing pre-built binaries for all common platforms: Windows 32/64-bit, Linux 32/64-bit, FreeBSD 32/64-bit, Mac OS X 32/64-bit. Source code archives are available for installation on all other Python platforms, such as Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, etc. To simplify installation in Zope/Plone and other egg-based systems, we have also precompiled egg distributions for all platforms. These are available on our own PyPI-style index server for easy and automatic
pytest-2.5.0: many fixes. ZERO reported bugs left.
pytest-2.5.0: many fixes ... now down to ZERO reported bugs! === pytest-2.5.0 is a big bug fixing release, the result of two community bug fixing days plus numerous additional works from many people and reporters. The release should be fully compatible to 2.4.2, existing plugins and test suites. We aim at maintaining this level of ZERO reported bugs because it's no fun if your testing tool has bugs, is it? Under a condition, though: when submitting a bug report please provide clear information about the circumstances and a simple example which reproduces the problem. The issue tracker is of course not empty now. We have many remaining enhancement issues which we'll hopefully can tackle in 2014 with your help. For those who use older Python versions, please note that pytest is itself not automatically tested anymore on python2.5 due to virtualenv, setuptools and tox not supporting it anymore. Manual verification shows that it works fine still but that might change in the future. As usual, current docs are at http://pytest.org and you can upgrade from pypi via:: pip install -U pytest Particular thanks for helping with this release go to Anatoly Bubenkoff, Floris Bruynooghe, Marc Abramowitz, Ralph Schmitt, Ronny Pfannschmidt, Donald Stufft, James Lan, Rob Dennis, Jason R. Coombs, Mathieu Agopian, Virgil Dupras, Bruno Oliveira, Alex Gaynor and others. have fun, holger krekel 2.5.0 --- - dropped python2.5 from automated release testing of pytest itself which means it's probably going to break soon (but still works with this release we believe). - simplified and fixed implementation for calling finalizers when parametrized fixtures or function arguments are involved. finalization is now performed lazily at setup time instead of in the teardown phase. While this might sound odd at first, it helps to ensure that we are correctly handling setup/teardown even in complex code. User-level code should not be affected unless it's implementing the pytest_runtest_teardown hook and expecting certain fixture instances are torn down within (very unlikely and would have been unreliable anyway). - PR90: add --color=yes|no|auto option to force terminal coloring mode (auto is default). Thanks Marc Abramowitz. - fix issue319 - correctly show unicode in assertion errors. Many thanks to Floris Bruynooghe for the complete PR. Also means we depend on py=1.4.19 now. - fix issue396 - correctly sort and finalize class-scoped parametrized tests independently from number of methods on the class. - refix issue323 in a better way -- parametrization should now never cause Runtime Recursion errors because the underlying algorithm for re-ordering tests per-scope/per-fixture is not recursive anymore (it was tail-call recursive before which could lead to problems for more than 966 non-function scoped parameters). - fix issue290 - there is preliminary support now for parametrizing with repeated same values (sometimes useful to to test if calling a second time works as with the first time). - close issue240 - document precisely how pytest module importing works, discuss the two common test directory layouts, and how it interacts with PEP420-namespace packages. - fix issue246 fix finalizer order to be LIFO on independent fixtures depending on a parametrized higher-than-function scoped fixture. (was quite some effort so please bear with the complexity of this sentence :) Thanks Ralph Schmitt for the precise failure example. - fix issue244 by implementing special index for parameters to only use indices for paramentrized test ids - fix issue287 by running all finalizers but saving the exception from the first failing finalizer and re-raising it so teardown will still have failed. We reraise the first failing exception because it might be the cause for other finalizers to fail. - fix ordering when mock.patch or other standard decorator-wrappings are used with test methods. This fixues issue346 and should help with random xdist collection failures. Thanks to Ronny Pfannschmidt and Donald Stufft for helping to isolate it. - fix issue357 - special case -k expressions to allow for filtering with simple strings that are not valid python expressions. Examples: -k 1.3 matches all tests parametrized with 1.3. -k None filters all tests that have None in their name and conversely -k 'not None'. Previously these examples would raise syntax errors. - fix issue384 by removing the trial support code since the unittest compat enhancements allow trial to handle it on its own - don't hide an ImportError when importing a plugin produces one. fixes issue375. - fix issue275 - allow usefixtures and autouse fixtures for running doctest text files. - fix issue380 by making --resultlog only rely on longrepr instead of the
PyDev 3.1.0 released
Hi All, PyDev 3.1.0 has been released Details on PyDev: http://pydev.org Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com LiClipse (PyDev standalone with goodies such as support for Django Templates, Mako Templates, Html, Javascript, etc): http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse/ Release Highlights: --- * **Important**: PyDev requires Eclipse 3.8 or 4.3 onwards and Java 7! For older versions, keep using PyDev 2.x. * **Refactoring**: * It's now possible to rename a module (using F2 or drag and drop in the pydev package explorer). * Multiple improvements on the rename refactoring. * **Debugger**: * **Automatic code reloading on the debugger** (based on xreload). * When a file is changed and a debug session is on, PyDev will automatically reload it (based on xreload). * View https://github.com/fabioz/Pydev/blob/development/plugins/org.python.pydev/pysrc/pydevd_reload.pyfor caveats/limitations. * **Get referrers on debug** * Right-click expression or variable in debugger and select 'Get Referrers' * Note: may not work on some Python variants as it needs access to the gc module. * **Stackless python** is now supported in the debugger, showing all the suspended tasklets in the stack view. * Automatically force focus to Eclipse on breakpoint hit (Enable in prefereces pydev debug). * The remote debugger can be left 'always on' (Enable in prefereces pydev debug). * If there's an exception while evaluating a conditional breakpoint the thread is suspended and the issue reported. * Option to skip caught exceptions thrown and handled in the same context. * A comment with @IgnoreException can be added to lines where an exception is thrown to have that exception ignored by the debugger when caught exceptions support is turned on. * Improved visualization of frame objects. * Bug-fixes on Jython debugging. * **Unittest**: * Django: The default PyDev unittest runner can now run Django tests properly * Selecting a unit-test method in the editor and **right-click run as unit-test** will run only the selected unit-test. * **Ctrl+F9** with test selected will pre-select only that test to run in unit-test. * **General**: * Improvements on search for references (Ctrl+Shift+G). * Fixed some racing conditions related to the plugin startup. * Organize imports has option to add from imports before other imports. * Improved connection to shell that does code-completion. * Properly supporting creation of shell inside a Jython VM in Eclipse. What is PyDev? --- PyDev is a plugin that enables users to use Eclipse for Python, Jython and IronPython development -- making Eclipse a first class Python IDE -- It comes with many goodies such as code completion, syntax highlighting, syntax analysis, refactor, debug and many others. Cheers, -- Fabio Zadrozny -- Software Developer LiClipse http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse PyDev - Python Development Environment for Eclipse http://pydev.org http://pydev.blogspot.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
RedNotebook 1.8.0
A new RedNotebook version has been released. You can get the tarball, Windows installer and links to distribution packages at http://rednotebook.sourceforge.net/downloads.html What is RedNotebook? RedNotebook is a **graphical journal** and diary helping you keep track of notes and thoughts. It includes a calendar navigation, customizable templates, export functionality and word clouds. You can also format, tag and search your entries. RedNotebook is available in the repositories of most common Linux distributions and a Windows installer is available. It is written in Python and uses GTK+ for its interface. What's new in this version? --- * Add font selection for edit mode (Philip Akesson). * Allow changing preview and cloud font in preferences. * Only allow opening RedNotebook minimized on Windows since other systems may lack a system tray. * Fix: Display tags starting with SEP in preview (lp:1255582). * Write scripts to cross-compile RedNotebook Windows exe and installer on Linux. Cheers, Jendrik -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
wigiki - build static html sites using github gists as pages
Hello everyone, Posting here in case someone else finds this interesting. Wigiki is still work in progress (version 0.6) but is currently usable. I use Github's Gists a lot, mostly for note-taking and I wanted a painless way to group some of these notes into a wiki-like site. So, the main idea is that you write a json file with a list of gist ids and some other info and then run wigiki to build a static html site. The gists are not currently downloaded but they are embedded [1] thus the generated site is not suitable for offline reading. It ships with a very basic and minimal theme but I have also started working on a bootstrap-based one. A theme is basically a bunch of jinja2 templates following some conventions so that other people can hack/contribute themes. Wigiki source code [2] and documentation [3] are hosted on github. You can download from there or from pypi [4]. Cheers [1]: https://github.com/blog/122-embedded-gists [2]: https://github.com/tlatsas/wigiki [3]: http://tlatsas.github.io/wigiki/ [4]: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/wigiki -- Tasos Latsas GPG Key : 0x414301DF -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
On 13/12/2013 03:23, Jean Dubois wrote: kind regards, jean p.s. I'm using Linux/Kubuntu 11.04 Would you please read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing the double line spacing that accompanied the above, thanks. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python Script
On 13/12/2013 06:21, Amimo Benja wrote: On Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:35:23 PM UTC+3, Gary Herron wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:05 AM, Amimo Benja wrote: I have an issue with a Python script that I will show as follows: http://codepad.org/G8Z2ConI Assume that you have three (well defined) classes: AirBase and VmNet, . VmNet has got a method that is called recursively each time an HTTP response is received. The variable recordTuple needs to be built independently for each instance of VmNet that is created. However, the mentioned variable is being overwritten across every instance, so if you try to get it from vmnet_instance_y, you would get exactly the same than retrieving it from vmnet_instance_x. • What is the code issue? I need to use this script in a project and I don't know how to proceed. Actually, the script aims to follow the principle don't repeat yourself (DRY). As you may notice, VmNet and AirBase does not have def __init__(self), so self.recordTupleBase does not probably exist. Additionally, many other subclasses, similar to VmNet, can implement the recursive method using that recordTupleBase. * I will gladly appreciate any help thanks You haven't actually asked a question here. You say you don't know how to proceed with a project, but we don't know what that project is. In fact, I can't even figure out if your trouble is with the script, or with using the script in this unknown project. Also, if you repost, please include the script in the email, not as a pointer to somewhere else. Gary Herron Okay Gary... I will put that into consideration when post another problem or solution. Before you repost would you please read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing the double line spacing above, thanks. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Knapsack Problem Without Value
On Friday, December 13, 2013 9:08:56 AM UTC+7, geez...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I wanna ask about Knapsack. I do understand what Knapsack is about. But this one i faced is a different problem. There is no value. I mean, it's like this, for example. I have 4 beams [X0, X1, X2, X3]. Each 1, 2, 2, 3 cm long. I want to make a new 6 cm long connected-beam from these 4 beams. I can make it from some of these. The output will print: 1, 2, 3 #(X0, X1, X3) You understand what my problem is? Can you help me? Sincerely, No, this isnt homework. There is a website called Jollybee (Its available only in Bahasa) Here is the link if you dont believe me http://jollybee.binus.ac.id/oj/site/problemset/problem/code/HS10F/ Im just got bored and trying to have fun. Not values like that, i mean, everywhere, I found the pseudocode only teach me with 2 variable. Mostly weight and its values ($). For short, this problem I faced is only the weight, no values($). Hope you get it. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Code suggestion - List comprehension
Shyam Parimal Katti wrote:
Hello,
I have a list of sql queries, some which are split across multiple list
elements e.x.
['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test', '(col1 int);',
'select col1 from', ' sample_test;']
A semi-colon in the string value indicates the termination of a sql
query. So the expected out come is a conversion to a list of valid sql
queries:
['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test (col1 int);',
'select col1 from sample_test;']
Here is the code that does that:
sample = ['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test', '(col1
int);', 'select col1 from', ' sample_test;']
pure_sqls = []
query_holder= ''
for each_line in sample:
query_holder += each_line
if query_holder.endswith(';'):
pure_sqls.append(query_holder)
query_holder = ''
Is there a way to do this by eliminating explicit creation of new
list(pure_sqls) and a temporary variable(query_holder)? Using list
comprehension? Though I don't want to put the shorter version in
production(if it is difficult to understand), I am looking if this can be
done with list comprehension since I am trying to learn list comprehension
by using it in such scenarios.
Yours is the sane approach, but it may be fun to try to understand the
following evil hacks ;)
[sql.replace(\0, ) + ; for sql in \0.join(sample +
[]).split(;\0) if sql]
['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test (col1 int);', 'select
col1 from sample_test;']
from itertools import groupby
def key(x, group=[0]):
... try:
... return group[0]
... finally:
... group[0] += x.endswith(;)
...
[ .join(group) for _, group in groupby(sample, key)]
['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test (col1 int);', 'select
col1 from sample_test;']
--
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Re: Knapsack Problem Without Value
On 13/12/2013 09:38, geezl...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 13, 2013 9:08:56 AM UTC+7, geez...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I wanna ask about Knapsack. I do understand what Knapsack is about. But this one i faced is a different problem. There is no value. I mean, it's like this, for example. I have 4 beams [X0, X1, X2, X3]. Each 1, 2, 2, 3 cm long. I want to make a new 6 cm long connected-beam from these 4 beams. I can make it from some of these. The output will print: 1, 2, 3 #(X0, X1, X3) You understand what my problem is? Can you help me? Sincerely, No, this isnt homework. There is a website called Jollybee (Its available only in Bahasa) Here is the link if you dont believe me http://jollybee.binus.ac.id/oj/site/problemset/problem/code/HS10F/ Im just got bored and trying to have fun. Not values like that, i mean, everywhere, I found the pseudocode only teach me with 2 variable. Mostly weight and its values ($). For short, this problem I faced is only the weight, no values($). Hope you get it. Would you please read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing the double line spacing above, thanks. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Code suggestion - List comprehension
On 13/12/2013 09:43, Peter Otten wrote:
Shyam Parimal Katti wrote:
Hello,
I have a list of sql queries, some which are split across multiple list
elements e.x.
['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test', '(col1 int);',
'select col1 from', ' sample_test;']
A semi-colon in the string value indicates the termination of a sql
query. So the expected out come is a conversion to a list of valid sql
queries:
['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test (col1 int);',
'select col1 from sample_test;']
Here is the code that does that:
sample = ['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test', '(col1
int);', 'select col1 from', ' sample_test;']
pure_sqls = []
query_holder= ''
for each_line in sample:
query_holder += each_line
if query_holder.endswith(';'):
pure_sqls.append(query_holder)
query_holder = ''
Is there a way to do this by eliminating explicit creation of new
list(pure_sqls) and a temporary variable(query_holder)? Using list
comprehension? Though I don't want to put the shorter version in
production(if it is difficult to understand), I am looking if this can be
done with list comprehension since I am trying to learn list comprehension
by using it in such scenarios.
Yours is the sane approach, but it may be fun to try to understand the
following evil hacks ;)
[sql.replace(\0, ) + ; for sql in \0.join(sample +
[]).split(;\0) if sql]
['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test (col1 int);', 'select
col1 from sample_test;']
from itertools import groupby
def key(x, group=[0]):
... try:
... return group[0]
... finally:
... group[0] += x.endswith(;)
...
[ .join(group) for _, group in groupby(sample, key)]
['drop table sample_table;', 'create table sample_test (col1 int);', 'select
col1 from sample_test;']
Evil? Bring back the death penalty for code like the above, that's what
I say :)
--
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.
Mark Lawrence
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
accessing a page which request an openID authentication
I have a page that request an openID authentication google ID before you are able to download any file from it. this is the website http://oc.gtisc.gatech.edu:8080/search.cgi?search=sality; and I tried a lot but it dose not seem that the ordinary login using session or requests work on this case ? any guidance or help ? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
Op vrijdag 13 december 2013 04:32:30 UTC+1 schreef Dan Stromberg: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Jean Dubois jeandubois...@gmail.com wrote: Op donderdag 12 december 2013 22:23:22 UTC+1 schreef Dan Stromberg: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Jean Dubois jeandubois...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:20:36 AM UTC+1, Dan Stromberg wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jean Dubois jeandu...@gmail.com wrote: For this reason, I wrote http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/bufsock.html , which abstracts away these complications, and actually makes things pretty simple. There are examples on the web page. Thank you very much for the example, the only trouble I'm having now is installing the bufsock module: wget http://dcs.nac.uci.edu/~strombrg/bufsock.tar.gz results in The requested URL /~strombrg/bufsock.tar.gz was not found on this server. Could you supply me the necessary installation instructions? That's an old link. It's now at http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/bufsock.html HTH I surfed to the new download-link (http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/svn/bufsock/) but I don't see any instructions how to download or install bufsock.py, I see it has something to do with svn which I don't know how to handle. Could you help me with that too? thanks in advance jean http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/svn/bufsock/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Knapsack Problem Without Value
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM, geezl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I wanna ask about Knapsack. I do understand what Knapsack is about. But this one i faced is a different problem. There is no value. I mean, it's like this, for example. I have 4 beams [X0, X1, X2, X3]. Each 1, 2, 2, 3 cm long. I want to make a new 6 cm long connected-beam from these 4 beams. I can make it from some of these. The output will print: 1, 2, 3 #(X0, X1, X3) You understand what my problem is? Can you help me? With no values, where the goal is just to make a specific sum, it's the subset sum problem, not the knapsack problem. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
smart splitting - how to
Hi, I'd like to read several strings by using 'input'. These strings are separated by white space but I'd like to allow for some quoting, e.g. Guido van Rossum should be split into 2 strings only Now, a simple split doesn't work since it splits the quoted text as well. Is there a simple way to do so? It would be nice if it could handle embedded quotes which are escaped by a backslash, too. Is there something simpler then a sophisticated regular expression or even a parser? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: smart splitting - how to
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Now, a simple split doesn't work since it splits the quoted text as well. Is there a simple way to do so? It would be nice if it could handle embedded quotes which are escaped by a backslash, too. Sounds like you want shell-style splitting. Check out the shlex module: http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/shlex.html ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
want to run proxy in python
hey , will u guide me how to run proxies from python i have tested lots of code but my ip show always constant on when i see it online plz help . -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: smart splitting - how to
On 2013-12-13 11:28, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I'd like to read several strings by using 'input'. These strings are separated by white space but I'd like to allow for some quoting, e.g. Guido van Rossum should be split into 2 strings only Now, a simple split doesn't work since it splits the quoted text as well. Is there a simple way to do so? It would be nice if it could handle embedded quotes which are escaped by a backslash, too. Is there something simpler then a sophisticated regular expression or even a parser? http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/shlex [~] |1 import shlex [~] |2 shlex.split(r'Guido \van\ Rossum invented Python') ['Guido van Rossum', 'invented', 'Python'] -- Robert Kern I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth. -- Umberto Eco -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: smart splitting - how to
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, I'd like to read several strings by using 'input'. These strings are separated by white space but I'd like to allow for some quoting, e.g. Guido van Rossum should be split into 2 strings only Now, a simple split doesn't work since it splits the quoted text as well. Is there a simple way to do so? It would be nice if it could handle embedded quotes which are escaped by a backslash, too. Is there something simpler then a sophisticated regular expression or even a parser? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Take a look at the csv reader module. You can set it to use space as field separator and also to handle quotes as field delimiters. This would leave your quoted strings with spaces as a single field. http://docs.python.org/2/library/csv.html#dialects-and-formatting-parameters I haven't tried your example, but I'm pretty sure it can handle it. -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
Op vrijdag 13 december 2013 04:32:30 UTC+1 schreef Dan Stromberg: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Jean Dubois jeandubois...@gmail.com wrote: Op donderdag 12 december 2013 22:23:22 UTC+1 schreef Dan Stromberg: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Jean Dubois jeandubois...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:20:36 AM UTC+1, Dan Stromberg wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jean Dubois jeandu...@gmail.com wrote: For this reason, I wrote http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/bufsock.html , which abstracts away these complications, and actually makes things pretty simple. There are examples on the web page. Thank you very much for the example, the only trouble I'm having now is installing the bufsock module: wget http://dcs.nac.uci.edu/~strombrg/bufsock.tar.gz results in The requested URL /~strombrg/bufsock.tar.gz was not found on this server. Could you supply me the necessary installation instructions? That's an old link. It's now at http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/bufsock.html HTH I surfed to the new download-link (http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/svn/bufsock/) but I don't see any instructions how to download or install bufsock.py, I see it has something to do with svn which I don't know how to handle. Could you help me with that too? thanks in advance jean http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/svn/bufsock/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: smart splitting - how to
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:39:57 +, Chris Angelico and Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-12-13 11:28, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I'd like to read several strings by using 'input'. These strings are separated by white space but I'd like to allow for some quoting, e.g. Guido van Rossum should be split into 2 strings only Now, a simple split doesn't work since it splits the quoted text as well. Is there a simple way to do so? It would be nice if it could handle embedded quotes which are escaped by a backslash, too. Is there something simpler then a sophisticated regular expression or even a parser? http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/shlex [~] |1 import shlex [~] |2 shlex.split(r'Guido \van\ Rossum invented Python') ['Guido van Rossum', 'invented', 'Python'] Many thanks, that works perfectly and is so simple. Helmut -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: request for guidance
On Friday, December 13, 2013 12:15:22 AM UTC-5, jennifer stone wrote: greetings I am a novice who is really interested in contributing to Python projects. How and where do I begin? thanking you in anticipation Jennifer, hi, welcome! If you are looking for help with the mechanics of open-source contribution, and with finding projects and tasks, Open Hatch is a good resource: https://openhatch.org/ Their entire mission is making it easier for new contributors to join open source projects. --Ned. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
Op vrijdag 13 december 2013 09:35:18 UTC+1 schreef Mark Lawrence: Would you please read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing the double line spacing that accompanied the above, thanks. -- Mark Lawrence Dear Mark, I'm sorry for the inconvenience my postings may have caused. I now have followed the instructions on the link you mentioned and installed the plugin en python-script. hope it worked (I saw the text light up yellow when pressing the edit-key a second time). A small suggestion from a newbie: it would perhaps be possible to make the script check itself whether pyhon2 or python3 should be used? thanks for having patience with me kind regards, jean -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: request for guidance
I read 'Beginning Python 2.6 and 3.1' by James Payne. It was pretty good. Code Academy has a python course. http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/python I've never done it but it might be good Cheers, V.I. On 12/12/2013 11:15 PM, jennifer stone wrote: greetings I am a novice who is really interested in contributing to Python projects. How and where do I begin? thanking you in anticipation -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11.
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11. An important article shows that every child is born on the fitrah (natural inclination) of Islam, the spread of Islam after September eleventh and that it’s necessary to make an open communication between Muslims Non-Muslims for presenting a right picture about Islam . Salam Alaykum: Your question about the increase in the reversion to Islam is a good one. You have given me the excuse to do something that I have wanted to do for a long time. I have wanted to write on the subject of Reverts to Islam in Modern Times and the message that it carries to all of us Muslims about Islam TODAY. BACK TO Islam? Reverts to Islam In Modern Times Revert As Opposed to Convert I like to use the word revert as opposed to the word convert as it more suits the occasion of a person returning back to his natural condition at birth. The baby is born in true surrender, submission, obedience and peace with his Creator. And this is the desirable position of the Muslim, to be in peace and submission to the Will of Allah (God in English). Instead of thinking in terms of converting people over to Islam, it is better understood that they are simply returning back to their natural state at birth. And this is from the teachings of our beloved prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him. (Muslims should always say Peace be upon him/them when referring to any of the prophets). Like A Baby Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said: Every child is born on the fitrah (natural inclination) of Islam (surrender, submission and peace to the Creator on His Terms). And it is their parents who raise them up to be Jews, Christians or fire worshippers. Dr. Ted Campbell who is the professor of religion at the seminary school in Maryland and I were both sharing the speakers platform last year in Maryland University. At the closing of a very nice interfaith dialog there came a strange question for both of us. Noah, the moderator said: This last question is for both speakers: Why are each of you in your religion? Dr. Campbell took his position in front of the microphone and then looked around the room as he thought about the question. I will never forget his words. He said: I guess I would have to say that I am a Methodist because, well because, my parents raised me that way. As a Methodist. He was right. That is what we know as Muslims. However, as I mentioned in my answer to the same question: And then some are brought back to their original state as a baby. They are reverted to Islam by the Mercy of Allah. Actual or Factual Numbers of American Muslims Many people are claiming that twice as many, or three times or four times, or even ten times as many people are coming into Islam as they did prior to the events of September 11. Who could possibly know the numbers? We are not even sure how many Muslims live here in America. I have heard the numbers range from around 3,000,000 all the way up to 11,000,000. I'm sure that only Allah Knows for sure how many Muslims there are in America. Rate of Reversion Actually, I can't give accurate statistics before or after the September events. I have heard from some experts that Islam was the fastest growing religion in the world prior to the September 11 events. I have no reason to doubt it either. In the many Masjids around the United States and in the many countries that I have been fortunate enough to visit I have found thousands who have entered into Islam. The Anglican Church of England expressed concern that if something does not change in the trend of new Muslims in England that the Muslims will out number the Anglicans by the year 2010. The number one name of the birth certificates for new born boys in England was not John, or Michael, or William. It is Muhammad. In Mexico, Sweden, Denmark and Canada I have witnessed so many coming into Islam that I cannot count them all. Everywhere I go I meet new Muslims. Prisons, universities and even in the military I have personally seen thousands who came to Islam. This is all before the events of September 11. More Exposure to the Message What I feel comfortable saying is that more and more people are being to exposed to Islam all over the world. Whether or not the picture they are receiving is painted correctly or not is not as important a factor as is the fact that at long last many people on this planet are looking at Islam as something very real. Therefore, when they ask about Islam some of the information is stimulating feelings inside of the people. Naturally we are going to see those who are stimulated to be against Islam. At the same time you have to understand that there are a number of people who will take the position that you cannot always believe everything in the news media. These are the ones whom Allah guides to inquire and learn more. Allah is the Only Guide It is only Allah who Guides the people and it is
TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
my code :
#!/usr/bin/env python
from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
import re,urllib2,urlparse, MySQLdb
def get_domain(url):
return urlparse.urlparse(url).netloc
def men_tshirts2(main_link, cat_link,db,cursor):
#print main_link
for cat,link in cat_link.iteritems():
cat = str(cat)
#print cat, link
page = urllib2.urlopen(link)
soup = BeautifulSoup(page)
page.close()
item = soup.find_all(div,attrs={class:itemTitle})
price = soup.find_all(div, attrs={class:itemPrice})
item_list =[]
price_list =[]
seller_list =[]
for x,y in zip(item,price):
item_content=str(x.a.string)
price = str(y.p.string)
link = str(x.a.get(href))
page =urllib2.urlopen(link)
soup = BeautifulSoup(page)
page.close()
data = soup.find_all(span, attrs={class:mbg-nw})
seller = str(data[0].string)
#print cat,item_content,price,seller
gender = men
sql = insert into
fashion(GENDER,links,category,item_content,price,seller)
VAlUES('%s','%s','%s','%s','%s','s')
cursor.execute(sql,(gender,main_link,cat,item_content,price,seller))
db.commit()
#except:
#db.rollback()
#print
len(gender),len(main_link),len(cat),len(item_content),len(price),len(seller)
def men_tshirts(db,cursor):
main_link = http://fashion.ebay.in/index.html#men_tshirts;
domane = get_domain(main_link)
main_page = urllib2.urlopen(main_link)
main_soup=BeautifulSoup(main_page)
main_page.close()
data = main_soup.find_all(div,attrs= {class:itmTitle})
price = main_soup.find_all(span,attrs={class:catlblTitle})
cat_link = {}
for x, y in zip(data, price):
#cat= str(x.a.string)+:+str(y.string)
cat= str(x.a.string)
link= http://+domane+/+str(x.a.get(href))
#print cat, link
cat_link[cat] = link
men_tshirts2(main_link, cat_link,db,cursor)
if __name__==__main__:
db = MySQLdb.connect(localhost,root,india123,ebay_db )
cursor = db.cursor()
men_tshirts(db,cursor)
db.close()
++
sql structure :-
mysql describe fashion;
+--+--+--+-+---++
| Field| Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra
|
+--+--+--+-+---++
| id | int(11) | NO | PRI | NULL | auto_increment
|
| GENDER | varchar(6) | YES | | NULL |
|
| links| varchar(255) | YES | | NULL |
|
| category | varchar(255) | YES | | NULL |
|
| item_content | varchar(255) | YES | | NULL |
|
| price| varchar(10) | YES | | NULL |
|
| seller | varchar(20) | YES | | NULL |
|
| created_on | timestamp| NO | | CURRENT_TIMESTAMP |
|
+--+--+--+-+---++
8 rows in set (0.00 sec)
+++
error:
query = query % db.literal(args)
TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
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Re: request for guidance
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM, jennifer stone jenny.stone...@gmail.com wrote: greetings I am a novice who is really interested in contributing to Python projects. How and where do I begin? thanking you in anticipation If you're interested in contributing to Python itself, you can consult the Python devguide [1] for suggestions on how to get started. I would also recommend the core-mentorship mailing list[2][3], which is a private (archives are only available to members) list where you can ask any questions you may have. Welcome! :) -- Zach [1] http://docs.python.org/devguide/index.html [2] List info: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/core-mentorship [3] Homepage: http://pythonmentors.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
hello,
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 05:18:59AM -0800, Jai wrote:
sql = insert into
fashion(GENDER,links,category,item_content,price,seller) \
VAlUES('%s','%s','%s','%s','%s','s')
may be you miss a % sign?
query = query % db.literal(args)
TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
cheers:
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Re: TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
Jai wrote:
my code :
sql = insert into
fashion(GENDER,links,category,item_content,price,seller)
VAlUES('%s','%s','%s','%s','%s','s')
cursor.execute(sql,(gender,main_link,cat,item_content,price,seller))
This looks very much like your previous mistake
(1) Don't put quotes around the placeholders. They are probably interpreted
as string literals.
(2) The last placeholder is missing the %
error:
query = query % db.literal(args)
TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
Note that we prefer to see complete tracebacks as this usually simplifies
debugging a lot.
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Re: accessing a page which request an openID authentication
On 13/12/2013 10:32, uni.mail.2...@gmail.com wrote: I have a page that request an openID authentication google ID before you are able to download any file from it. this is the website http://oc.gtisc.gatech.edu:8080/search.cgi?search=sality; and I tried a lot but it dose not seem that the ordinary login using session or requests work on this case ? any guidance or help ? Please show us a code sample that you've tried. State what you expected to happen, what actually happened, your OS and Python version. If you have a traceback cut and paste all of it into your message. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
- Original Message -
I have an ethernet-rs232 adapter which allows me to connect to a
measurement instrument by means of netcat on a linux system.
e.g. entering nc 10.128.59.63 7000
allows me to enter e.g.
*IDN?
after which I get an identification string of the measurement
instrument back.
I thought I could accomplish the same using the python module
socket
and tried out the sample program below which doesn't work however:
#!/usr/bin/env python
A simple echo client
import socket
host = '10.128.59.63'
port = 7000
size = 10
s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM)
s.connect((host,port))
s.send('*IDN?')
data = s.recv(size)
s.close()
print 'Received:', data
Can anyone here tell me how to do it properly?
thanks in advance
jean
Such equipment often implements a telnet protocol. Have use try using the
telnetlib module ?
http://docs.python.org/2/library/telnetlib.html
t = Telnet(host, port)
t.write('*IDN?')
print t.read_until('Whateverprompt')
# you can use read_very_eager also
JM
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Re: Need help with file object
On 12/12/2013 11:29 PM, Unix SA wrote: ... With above prog I am getting error TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need sting or buffer, file found In future please copy and paste the entire traceback. It appears that you typed in just one line of it. In this case the line raising the exception was obvious, but often it is not. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
On 2013-12-12, Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: Sockets reserve the right to split one socket.send() into multiple socket.recv()'s on the other end of the communication, or to aggregate multiple socket.send()'s into a single socket.recv() - pretty much any way the relevant IP stacks and communications equipment feel like for the sake of performance or reliability. Just to be pedantic: _TCP_ sockets reserver that right. UDP sockets do not, and do in fact guarantee that each message is discrete. [It appears that the OP is undoubtedly using TCP sockets.] I haven't done a lot of UDP, but are you pretty sure UDP can't at least fragment large packets? What's a router or switch to do if the Path MTU isn't large enough for an original packet? http://www.gamedev.net/topic/343577-fragmented-udp-packets/ You're conflating IP datagrams and Ethernet packets. The IP stack can fragment an IP datagram into multiple Ethernet packets which are then reassembled by the receiving IP stack into a single datagram before being passed up to the next layer (in this case, UDP). Did you read the thread you pointed to? Your question was answerd by posting #4 in the thread you cited: 1) Yes, packets will be fragmented at the network layer (IP), but this is something you do not have to worry about since the network layer will reassemble the fragments before passing them back up to the transport layer (UDP). UDP garentees preserved message boundaries, so you never have to worry about only receiving a packet fragment :~). A few other references: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc791 1.1. Motivation [...] The internet protocol provides for transmitting blocks of data called datagrams from sources to destinations, [...] The internet protocol also provides for fragmentation and reassembly of long datagrams, if necessary, for transmission through small packet networks. [...] 1.4 Operation [...] The internet modules use fields in the internet header to fragment and reassemble internet datagrams when necessary for transmission through small packet networks. [...] From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_fragmentation If a receiving host receives a fragmented IP packet, it has to reassemble the datagram and pass it to the higher protocol layer. Reassembly is intended to happen in the receiving host but in practice it may be done by an intermediate router, for example, network address translation may need to re-assemble fragments in order to translate data streams, e.g. the FTP control protocol, as described in RFC 2993 -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I'm continually AMAZED at at th'breathtaking effects gmail.comof WIND EROSION!! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
On 2013-12-12, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Now, if you want reliability AND datagrams, it's a lot easier to add boundaries to a TCP stream (sentinel or length prefixes) than to add reliability to UDP... It's unfortunate that there's no standardized reliable connection-oriented datagram protocol. The linux kernel implements one for Unix domain sockets (SOCK_SEQPACKET), and its really, really useful. Adding boundaries to a TCP stream achieves the same goal (and isn't that hard to do), but since there's no standard for it, people keep having to reinvent it (often badly and always incompaibly). -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Hello... IRON at CURTAIN? Send over a gmail.comSAUSAGE PIZZA! World War III? No thanks! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
Le jeudi 12 décembre 2013 18:55:15 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit : If you mean cp65xxx (I forget exact numbers), MS Command Prompt fails, not Python. One should not use any other code page, but only other code pages work. - Please, do not exaggerate too much. On my win7 box, using cp65001: The golang works. Despite my poor knowledge with with this language, I even relatively quickly succeded to write a readline fct. Ruby 2 works. irb, the interactive ruby works. I remember to have had some diffuculties in entering some chars, this a different problem. echo unicode works. xelatex (my favourite tool), a tex-unicode engine, works. I'm usualy using a GUI tool, I just tested with a éàü.tex document. Indeed, it works. Starting that created document éàü.pdf with the cmd start éàü.pdf works. It calls Acrobat Reader. Starting that created document with Sumatra, a pdf viewer works. Not directly related to my comment, I can compile a .tex document in such a dir D:\jm\Москва\Zürich\Αθήνα\œdipe and it works. Something a little bit different. Neil Hodgson's SciTE editor. One can configure the output pane to use 65001. All the examples above works. It is also possible to make Python working, but I had to write my own printing material. A note about font. The console does not, and is not able, to display all the chars. It is however always displaying text very smoothly and correctly using the replacement *glyph. Nothing to do with an incorrect behaviour of the console. Eg: echo ሴé€㑖Ѓ⌴* works. I mainly considered BMP characters. Windows is not so bad. One can discuss ad nauseam the pros and cons of console-gui application. I have always considered Windows as a system which use gui applications. And even with Python using a gui toolkit, I sometimes link my own created gui console. I do not wish to defend MS. What I wrote depends on the Windows version, XP, Vista, Windows 7. One should recognize, with win7, MS, finally, produce a full unicode system. Strangely, among all the bashing one can read about that system, this is rarely mentioned. (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!) jmf -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: Adding boundaries to a TCP stream achieves the same goal (and isn't that hard to do), but since there's no standard for it, people keep having to reinvent it (often badly and always incompaibly). Nearest to a standard would be the way heaps of internet protocols are line-based - SMTP, POP, IMAP, FTP, and to a lesser extent HTTP as well. The end-of-line sequence \r\n delimits messages. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:18:22 -0500, Larry Martell wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:51 AM, bob gailer bgai...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2013 9:07 PM, Larry Martell wrote: Nope. Long before that I was working on computers that didn't boot when you powered them up, You had to manually key in a bootstrap program from the front panel switches. PDP8? RIM loader, BIN loader? Data General Nova 3 IIRC - wasn't that a machine that didn't even have 'subtract' - you had to complement and add (2 steps) ? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
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Re: Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11.
Why is bv4bv4...@gmail.com still not banned? 2013/12/13 bv4bv4...@gmail.com Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11. An important article shows that every child is born on the fitrah (natural inclination) of Islam, the spread of Islam after September eleventh and that it’s necessary to make an open communication between Muslims Non-Muslims for presenting a right picture about Islam . Salam Alaykum: Your question about the increase in the reversion to Islam is a good one. You have given me the excuse to do something that I have wanted to do for a long time. I have wanted to write on the subject of Reverts to Islam in Modern Times and the message that it carries to all of us Muslims about Islam TODAY. BACK TO Islam? Reverts to Islam In Modern Times Revert As Opposed to Convert I like to use the word revert as opposed to the word convert as it more suits the occasion of a person returning back to his natural condition at birth. The baby is born in true surrender, submission, obedience and peace with his Creator. And this is the desirable position of the Muslim, to be in peace and submission to the Will of Allah (God in English). Instead of thinking in terms of converting people over to Islam, it is better understood that they are simply returning back to their natural state at birth. And this is from the teachings of our beloved prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him. (Muslims should always say Peace be upon him/them when referring to any of the prophets). Like A Baby Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said: Every child is born on the fitrah (natural inclination) of Islam (surrender, submission and peace to the Creator on His Terms). And it is their parents who raise them up to be Jews, Christians or fire worshippers. Dr. Ted Campbell who is the professor of religion at the seminary school in Maryland and I were both sharing the speakers platform last year in Maryland University. At the closing of a very nice interfaith dialog there came a strange question for both of us. Noah, the moderator said: This last question is for both speakers: Why are each of you in your religion? Dr. Campbell took his position in front of the microphone and then looked around the room as he thought about the question. I will never forget his words. He said: I guess I would have to say that I am a Methodist because, well because, my parents raised me that way. As a Methodist. He was right. That is what we know as Muslims. However, as I mentioned in my answer to the same question: And then some are brought back to their original state as a baby. They are reverted to Islam by the Mercy of Allah. Actual or Factual Numbers of American Muslims Many people are claiming that twice as many, or three times or four times, or even ten times as many people are coming into Islam as they did prior to the events of September 11. Who could possibly know the numbers? We are not even sure how many Muslims live here in America. I have heard the numbers range from around 3,000,000 all the way up to 11,000,000. I'm sure that only Allah Knows for sure how many Muslims there are in America. Rate of Reversion Actually, I can't give accurate statistics before or after the September events. I have heard from some experts that Islam was the fastest growing religion in the world prior to the September 11 events. I have no reason to doubt it either. In the many Masjids around the United States and in the many countries that I have been fortunate enough to visit I have found thousands who have entered into Islam. The Anglican Church of England expressed concern that if something does not change in the trend of new Muslims in England that the Muslims will out number the Anglicans by the year 2010. The number one name of the birth certificates for new born boys in England was not John, or Michael, or William. It is Muhammad. In Mexico, Sweden, Denmark and Canada I have witnessed so many coming into Islam that I cannot count them all. Everywhere I go I meet new Muslims. Prisons, universities and even in the military I have personally seen thousands who came to Islam. This is all before the events of September 11. More Exposure to the Message What I feel comfortable saying is that more and more people are being to exposed to Islam all over the world. Whether or not the picture they are receiving is painted correctly or not is not as important a factor as is the fact that at long last many people on this planet are looking at Islam as something very real. Therefore, when they ask about Islam some of the information is stimulating feelings inside of the people. Naturally we are going to see those who are stimulated to be against Islam. At the same time you have to understand that there are a number of people who will take the position that you cannot always believe everything in the news media. These are the ones whom Allah guides
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On 13/12/2013 16:27, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:15 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: One should recognize, with win7, MS, finally, produce a full unicode system. Strangely, among all the bashing one can read about that system, this is rarely mentioned. (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!) [citation needed] ChrisA You'll have to wait until the cows come home on two counts. One, he's never yet provided any evidence to support any statement that he's ever made here. Second, he's still not smart enough to stop sending double spaced google crap. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Using pythons smtp server
On 2013-12-13, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net wrote: I have an app that generates a file one a day and would like to email it using pythons SMTP server. You don't send mail using an SMTP server. You receive mail using an SMTP server. http://docs.python.org/2/library/smtpd.html#smtpd.SMTPServer The documentation is kinda sparse and I cant seem to find any good examples. Basically what I want to do; when my app runs it would initiate a SMTP server, send the attachment and shutdown the SMTP after. Newsgroups: comp.lang.python From: Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid Subject: Re: Using pythons smtp server References: mailman.4046.1386908855.18130.python-l...@python.org Followup-To: On 2013-12-13, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net wrote: I have an app that generates a file one a day and would like to email it using pythons SMTP server. You don't send mail using an SMTP server. You receive mail using an SMTP server. You send mail using an SMTP client. http://docs.python.org/2/library/smtpd.html#smtpd.SMTPServer The documentation is kinda sparse and I cant seem to find any good examples. Basically what I want to do; when my app runs it would initiate a SMTP server, send the attachment and shutdown the SMTP after. https://www.google.com/search?q=python+send+email+smtp -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! The PINK SOCKS were at ORIGINALLY from 1952!! gmail.comBut they went to MARS around 1953!! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11.
On 13/12/2013 16:32, Amirouche Boubekki wrote: Why is bv4bv4...@gmail.com mailto:bv4bv4...@gmail.com still not banned? [... snip long spiel from bv4 etc. ...] Before recently, the answer would have been: because they're coming in through the Usenet gateway so there's no mailing list subscription to suspend. However, we've recently implemented filtering via the gateway, and I've just added bv4 to the list of banned addresses. (I'm not 100% sure I've got it right, so let's see if they make it in again). TJG -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Amirouche Boubekki amirouche.boube...@gmail.com wrote: Why is bv4bv4...@gmail.com still not banned? 2013/12/13 bv4bv4...@gmail.com [ a whole lot of quoted text, including the URL ] Why do you quote all the text, including the web link? I didn't see the original, thanks to good spam filtering, but your response brought this to my attention, not to mention put another copy into the archives. Please, just ignore these sorts of things; or if you want to reply for whatever reason, trim out the content, especially any links. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: accessing a page which request an openID authentication
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 02:32:49 -0800, uni.mail.2014 wrote: I have a page that request an openID authentication And your Python question is? -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: request for guidance
On Friday, December 13, 2013 10:45:22 AM UTC+5:30, jennifer stone wrote: greetings I am a novice who is really interested in contributing to Python projects. How and where do I begin? Good to see new names! How much python do you know/studied/coded? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: want to run proxy in python
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 03:39:44 -0800, Jai wrote: hey , will u guide me how to run proxies from python http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ip+address+spoofing -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 13/12/2013 16:27, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:15 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: One should recognize, with win7, MS, finally, produce a full unicode system. Strangely, among all the bashing one can read about that system, this is rarely mentioned. (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!) [citation needed] ChrisA You'll have to wait until the cows come home on two counts. One, he's never yet provided any evidence to support any statement that he's ever made here. Second, he's still not smart enough to stop sending double spaced google crap. I don't know that it's a matter of not being smart enough. It's just as likely to be a deliberate choice, as that method of posting ensures that the quality of the style matches the quality of the substance. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On Friday, December 13, 2013 10:13:11 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: You'll have to wait until the cows come home on two counts. One, he's never yet provided any evidence to support any statement that he's ever made here. Second, he's still not smart enough to stop sending double spaced google crap. I don't know that it's a matter of not being smart enough. It's just as likely to be a deliberate choice, as that method of posting ensures that the quality of the style matches the quality of the substance. Correlates? Ok Ensures?? Citation needed -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Filtering and blocking (was Re: Islam is the spammiest subject line on python-list)
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk wrote: However, we've recently implemented filtering via the gateway, and I've just added bv4 to the list of banned addresses. (I'm not 100% sure I've got it right, so let's see if they make it in again). What happens if someone else trips the filter (collateral damage)? Are they informed that they're blocked, or does the post get black-holed? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
On 2013-12-13, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: Adding boundaries to a TCP stream achieves the same goal (and isn't that hard to do), but since there's no standard for it, people keep having to reinvent it (often badly and always incompaibly). Nearest to a standard would be the way heaps of internet protocols are line-based - SMTP, POP, IMAP, FTP, and to a lesser extent HTTP as well. The end-of-line sequence \r\n delimits messages. And that works very nicely for things that transport text. It's easy to implement, easy to debug, easy to test. But, when you need to transport binary data, it gets ugly and compatibility problems start to arise pretty quickly. One could also borrow standards from the old-school serial world and us the SYN/STX/ETX framing with byte stuffing used by HDLC et al. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! My vaseline is at RUNNING... gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On 13/12/2013 16:43, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 13/12/2013 16:27, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:15 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: One should recognize, with win7, MS, finally, produce a full unicode system. Strangely, among all the bashing one can read about that system, this is rarely mentioned. (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!) [citation needed] ChrisA You'll have to wait until the cows come home on two counts. One, he's never yet provided any evidence to support any statement that he's ever made here. Second, he's still not smart enough to stop sending double spaced google crap. I don't know that it's a matter of not being smart enough. It's just as likely to be a deliberate choice, as that method of posting ensures that the quality of the style matches the quality of the substance. ChrisA How can it be deliberate choice, that implies thought in the first place, which is highly conspicious by its absence? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
On Friday, December 13, 2013 5:50:03 PM UTC+5:30, Jean Dubois wrote: Op vrijdag 13 december 2013 09:35:18 UTC+1 schreef Mark Lawrence: Would you please read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing the double line spacing that accompanied the above, thanks. -- Mark Lawrence Dear Mark, I'm sorry for the inconvenience my postings may have caused. I now have followed the instructions on the link you mentioned and installed the plugin en python-script. Thanks for cooperating hope it worked (I saw the text light up yellow when pressing the edit-key a second time). A small suggestion from a newbie: it would perhaps be possible to make the script check itself whether pyhon2 or python3 should be used? Yes... Half way The double-spacing problem is cured However the long-lines remain (see your hope it worked... above) Did you click the edit button both before and after your typing? The 'before' should remove the double-spaced (old ...) lines The 'after' should even out the right margins of what you've just typed thanks for having patience with me Yes and you too please bear with us as we iron out this little irritant niggle -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: On 2013-12-13, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: Adding boundaries to a TCP stream achieves the same goal (and isn't that hard to do), but since there's no standard for it, people keep having to reinvent it (often badly and always incompaibly). Nearest to a standard would be the way heaps of internet protocols are line-based - SMTP, POP, IMAP, FTP, and to a lesser extent HTTP as well. The end-of-line sequence \r\n delimits messages. And that works very nicely for things that transport text. It's easy to implement, easy to debug, easy to test. But, when you need to transport binary data, it gets ugly and compatibility problems start to arise pretty quickly. One could also borrow standards from the old-school serial world and us the SYN/STX/ETX framing with byte stuffing used by HDLC et al. Yeah, or if it's a tight binary protocol with occasional bits of bigger payload, either MIDI or TELNET could offer ideas. MIDI's SysEx message can carry whatever is needed of it, and TELNET has subnegotiation that can be used for the odd thingy or so. But for a generic binary stream-of-messages pipe (as opposed to the stream-of-bytes pipe that TCP normally offers), probably the easiest is to precede each write with an N-byte length... and somehow negotiate what N should be. (And endianness, but hopefully that's just network byte order.) Standards are awesome, there are so many to choose from! http://xkcd.com/927/ ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] trying socket as a replacement for nc
On Friday, December 13, 2013 5:50:03 PM UTC+5:30, Jean Dubois wrote: to make the script check itself whether pyhon2 or python3 should be used? As far as I know both (2 and 3) worked Do you have some reason to suspect one works and other not? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:54 AM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know that it's a matter of not being smart enough. It's just as likely to be a deliberate choice, as that method of posting ensures that the quality of the style matches the quality of the substance. Correlates? Ok Ensures?? Citation needed For jmf's posts? Definitely ensures. Citation: python-list archives. :) ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11.
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Amirouche Boubekki amirouche.boube...@gmail.com wrote: Why is bv4bv4...@gmail.com still not banned? Because they’re posting via Usenet. Google Groups, to be exact — if someone feels like it, go bug groups-ab...@google.com. 2013/12/13 bv4bv4...@gmail.com Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11. An important article shows that every child is born on the fitrah (natural inclination) of Islam, the spread of Islam after September eleventh and that it’s necessary to make an open communication between Muslims Non-Muslims for presenting a right picture about Islam . Salam Alaykum: Your question about the increase in the reversion to Islam is a good one. You have given me the excuse to do something that I have wanted to do for a long time. I have wanted to write on the subject of Reverts to Islam in Modern Times and the message that it carries to all of us Muslims about Islam TODAY. BACK TO Islam? Reverts to Islam In Modern Times Revert As Opposed to Convert I like to use the word revert as opposed to the word convert as it more suits the occasion of a person returning back to his natural condition at birth. The baby is born in true surrender, submission, obedience and peace with his Creator. And this is the desirable position of the Muslim, to be in peace and submission to the Will of Allah (God in English). Instead of thinking in terms of converting people over to Islam, it is better understood that they are simply returning back to their natural state at birth. And this is from the teachings of our beloved prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him. (Muslims should always say Peace be upon him/them when referring to any of the prophets). Like A Baby Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said: Every child is born on the fitrah (natural inclination) of Islam (surrender, submission and peace to the Creator on His Terms). And it is their parents who raise them up to be Jews, Christians or fire worshippers. Dr. Ted Campbell who is the professor of religion at the seminary school in Maryland and I were both sharing the speakers platform last year in Maryland University. At the closing of a very nice interfaith dialog there came a strange question for both of us. Noah, the moderator said: This last question is for both speakers: Why are each of you in your religion? Dr. Campbell took his position in front of the microphone and then looked around the room as he thought about the question. I will never forget his words. He said: I guess I would have to say that I am a Methodist because, well because, my parents raised me that way. As a Methodist. He was right. That is what we know as Muslims. However, as I mentioned in my answer to the same question: And then some are brought back to their original state as a baby. They are reverted to Islam by the Mercy of Allah. Actual or Factual Numbers of American Muslims Many people are claiming that twice as many, or three times or four times, or even ten times as many people are coming into Islam as they did prior to the events of September 11. Who could possibly know the numbers? We are not even sure how many Muslims live here in America. I have heard the numbers range from around 3,000,000 all the way up to 11,000,000. I'm sure that only Allah Knows for sure how many Muslims there are in America. Rate of Reversion Actually, I can't give accurate statistics before or after the September events. I have heard from some experts that Islam was the fastest growing religion in the world prior to the September 11 events. I have no reason to doubt it either. In the many Masjids around the United States and in the many countries that I have been fortunate enough to visit I have found thousands who have entered into Islam. The Anglican Church of England expressed concern that if something does not change in the trend of new Muslims in England that the Muslims will out number the Anglicans by the year 2010. The number one name of the birth certificates for new born boys in England was not John, or Michael, or William. It is Muhammad. In Mexico, Sweden, Denmark and Canada I have witnessed so many coming into Islam that I cannot count them all. Everywhere I go I meet new Muslims. Prisons, universities and even in the military I have personally seen thousands who came to Islam. This is all before the events of September 11. More Exposure to the Message What I feel comfortable saying is that more and more people are being to exposed to Islam all over the world. Whether or not the picture they are receiving is painted correctly or not is not as important a factor as is the fact that at long last many people on this planet are looking at Islam as something very real. Therefore, when they ask about Islam some of the information is stimulating feelings inside of the people. Naturally we are going to see those who are stimulated to be
Re: Using pythons smtp server
You don't send mail using an SMTP server. You receive mail using an
SMTP server.
Um maybe, I guess it is a matter of perspective.
Let me rephrase my question. I want to send an email using python but do
not want to use an external service. Does python have the ability to send
emails without installing additional software or using an external
server/service?
Maybe I am wrong, I thought examples like s = smtplib.SMTP('localhost')
are using a local(outside of python) smtp server, like postfix.
Vincent Davis
720-301-3003
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalidwrote:
On 2013-12-13, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net wrote:
I have an app that generates a file one a day and would like to email it
using pythons SMTP server.
You don't send mail using an SMTP server. You receive mail using an
SMTP server.
http://docs.python.org/2/library/smtpd.html#smtpd.SMTPServer
The documentation is kinda sparse and I cant seem to find any good
examples.
Basically what I want to do; when my app runs it would initiate a SMTP
server, send the attachment and shutdown the SMTP after.
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
From: Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid
Subject: Re: Using pythons smtp server
References: mailman.4046.1386908855.18130.python-l...@python.org
Followup-To:
On 2013-12-13, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net wrote:
I have an app that generates a file one a day and would like to email
it using pythons SMTP server.
You don't send mail using an SMTP server. You receive mail using an
SMTP server. You send mail using an SMTP client.
http://docs.python.org/2/library/smtpd.html#smtpd.SMTPServer
The documentation is kinda sparse and I cant seem to find any good
examples.
Basically what I want to do; when my app runs it would initiate a SMTP
server, send the attachment and shutdown the SMTP after.
https://www.google.com/search?q=python+send+email+smtp
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! The PINK SOCKS were
at ORIGINALLY from 1952!!
gmail.comBut they went to MARS
around 1953!!
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Re: Using pythons smtp server
Obviously I don't really know how this works. I have used python to send email using my smtp server (whatever that may be gmail, postfix..) But I don't want to do that. After a little more research I think what I need to do is lookup the MX address of the address I want to send the email too. Then submit the email to that address using smtplib.SMTP Do I have that right? Vincent Davis 720-301-3003 On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 18:01:58 -0700, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net declaimed the following: I have an app that generates a file one a day and would like to email it using pythons SMTP server. http://docs.python.org/2/library/smtpd.html#smtpd.SMTPServer The documentation is kinda sparse and I cant seem to find any good examples. Basically what I want to do; when my app runs it would initiate a SMTP server, send the attachment and shutdown the SMTP after. I suspect you don't want the server per se -- that's more a unit for receiving SMTP mail (sure, you can start it, but then you have to send the email to IT so it can relay it to the next server in the line). Look into the smtplib module (section 20.12 in the v2.7.2 documentation) in order to send email TO a mail server -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfr...@ix.netcom.comHTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: request for guidance
hello! thanks a ton for your warm response. I know the basics of python with some modules like pickle, urllib, re. Its kind of basic I know. but it gotta start somewhere and I really want to have real world experience. thanks jennifer On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:45 AM, jennifer stone jenny.stone...@gmail.comwrote: greetings I am a novice who is really interested in contributing to Python projects. How and where do I begin? thanking you in anticipation -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: min max from tuples in list
On Friday, December 13, 2013 11:58:51 AM UTC+5:30, Robert Voigtländer wrote: I've heard the term used often. It means something like, performs well or runs fast. It may or may not be an English word, but that doesn't stop people from using it :-) If google can be used to mean make huge amouts of money with a product that is inherently flawed then I'll happily accept performant as an English word, regardless of whether the English variant is UK, US, Australian, New Zealand, Soth African, Geordie, Glaswegian or any other :) Indeed it's not an english word. I have to stop using it. In German it's used with the meaning of runs fast. Even though it's already not that clearly defined there. Thanks for the help on the topic of data aggregation. It helped a lot and I again learned somthing. I have a performant .. well .. fast running solution now. Well performant is performant enough for the purposes of communicating on the python list I think :D -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Using pythons smtp server
On 2013-12-13, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net wrote: Obviously I don't really know how this works. I have used python to send email using my smtp server (whatever that may be gmail, postfix..) But I don't want to do that. After a little more research I think what I need to do is lookup the MX address of the address I want to send the email too. Then submit the email to that address using smtplib.SMTP Maybe. In theory, that will work -- and it did in the good old days before SPAM (the electric kind) was invented. But, many SMTP servers (the ones pointed to by the MX record) will not accept mail from you unless you meet various requirements (which vary considerably and the SMTP servers administrators try to keep secret). For example you may have to be sending from an IP address who's reverse-DNS lookup matches up with the from headers and with the MX record for the domain you claim to be sending from. Your mail might also get blocked/discarded if you're sending from what's been identified as a dynamically allocated IP block (even if it does have proper DNS and MX records). -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Look into my eyes and at try to forget that you have gmail.coma Macy's charge card! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Using pythons smtp server
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net wrote: Let me rephrase my question. I want to send an email using python but do not want to use an external service. Does python have the ability to send emails without installing additional software or using an external server/service? Any SMTP server you install has to do one of three things with the mail you give it: 1) Accept it locally. Presumably the wrong thing to do here. 2) Deliver it to the authoritative SMTP server for the domain. 3) Deliver it to an intermediate server. (Edit: Your next mail shows that you understand that, as looking up the MX record is what I was going to say here.) So if you want to avoid using an external intermediate server, you need to find and talk to the authoritative server. Now, this is where another big consideration comes in. What envelope From address are you going to use? Is your own IP address allowed to send mail for that domain? If not, you may be forced to use the legitimate server for that domain. There are other concerns, too; if you don't have a nice name to announce in the HELO, you might find your mail treated as spam. But if you deal with all that, then yes, the only thing you need to do is look up the MX record and pick the best server. (And then deal with other concerns like coping with that one being down, which is the advantage of having a local mail queue. But sometimes that doesn't matter, like if you're sending to yourself for notifications.) ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Using pythons smtp server
Grant, Chris Thanks !!! I guess in the end this is a bad idea, (for my purposes) I should just use my gmail account smtp server. Vincent Davis 720-301-3003 On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net wrote: Let me rephrase my question. I want to send an email using python but do not want to use an external service. Does python have the ability to send emails without installing additional software or using an external server/service? Any SMTP server you install has to do one of three things with the mail you give it: 1) Accept it locally. Presumably the wrong thing to do here. 2) Deliver it to the authoritative SMTP server for the domain. 3) Deliver it to an intermediate server. (Edit: Your next mail shows that you understand that, as looking up the MX record is what I was going to say here.) So if you want to avoid using an external intermediate server, you need to find and talk to the authoritative server. Now, this is where another big consideration comes in. What envelope From address are you going to use? Is your own IP address allowed to send mail for that domain? If not, you may be forced to use the legitimate server for that domain. There are other concerns, too; if you don't have a nice name to announce in the HELO, you might find your mail treated as spam. But if you deal with all that, then yes, the only thing you need to do is look up the MX record and pick the best server. (And then deal with other concerns like coping with that one being down, which is the advantage of having a local mail queue. But sometimes that doesn't matter, like if you're sending to yourself for notifications.) ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
Le vendredi 13 décembre 2013 17:27:35 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:15 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: One should recognize, with win7, MS, finally, produce a full unicode system. Strangely, among all the bashing one can read about that system, this is rarely mentioned. (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!) [citation needed] - My guess is that you are referring to that sentence (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!). I do not need to cite anything. That's my opinion. My comment was mainly oriented about cp65*** in the context of a teaching programming language. I pointed that some tools are working very well with that code page. jmf -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Using pythons smtp server
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net wrote: Grant, Chris Thanks !!! I guess in the end this is a bad idea, (for my purposes) I should just use my gmail account smtp server. If you're sending from gmail, use whatever gmail specifies for sending. Otherwise your mail will be seen as spoofed. The converse of this is that, in my opinion, *every* domain should have an SPF record and *every* mail server should check them. That would eliminate a huge slab of forged mail, and it'd prevent some stupid web email forms from doing the wrong thing and only finding out that it's wrong years later. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 5:27 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is that you are referring to that sentence (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!). I do not need to cite anything. That's my opinion. Just as much to what's above it, where you state that MS has produced a full unicode system. Is that, too, just opinion, utterly unfounded in fact, or can you provide a citation? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
Le vendredi 13 décembre 2013 19:32:58 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 5:27 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is that you are referring to that sentence (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!). I do not need to cite anything. That's my opinion. Just as much to what's above it, where you state that MS has produced a full unicode system. Is that, too, just opinion, utterly unfounded in fact, or can you provide a citation? I have not the knowledge to put a jugment on this. I read many articles on the subject from people who seems to have some skills on the subject. From my own experience with my limited and empirical computing experience, when I see the file system, the rendering engine, the usage of OpenType fonts, ... I tend to have to agree. I can also point that all these aspects jump to my mind when I switched from XP to 7. Some time ago, I even fall on an article about the bootstraping mechanism (7 or 8 or future version or RT ?) which uses natively ucs-2. jmf -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Using pythons smtp server
On 2013-12-13, Vincent Davis vinc...@vincentdavis.net wrote: Grant, Chris Thanks !!! I guess in the end this is a bad idea, (for my purposes) I should just use my gmail account smtp server. If you're going to claim the mail is from somebody@gmail.com, then yes you should definitly send it via Gmail's SMTP server. Doing anything else is going to be a long, losing battle involving you learning more about SMTP and e-mail headers than you probably want to. If you've got your own domain (which you're using as the from address), a static IP, and your own MX record and corresponding SMTP server, you should be able to set things up to send mail directly. Many years ago (like 20), I used to configure my home Linux boxes to send mail directly to the destination SMTP server while claiming to be from grante@my-isp's-name.com. At first it worked fine that way. Then about about 12-15 years ago, I started having problems with some servers refusing my mail. I had a static IP address with a real, official hostname, so I set up an MX record for that hostname, and made sure my handshaking configuration was using a hostname that mapped back to my static IP address. That helped for a while, but SMTP servers continued to get more and more paranoid. Some SMTP servers won't accept mail from an IP if they've determined is a residential IP address even if you do have a domain that matches the from address, an MX record, and everything else. Eventually, I just gave up and started routing everything through the official SMTP server associated with the e-mail address from which I wanted to send the mail. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I'm having a MID-WEEK at CRISIS! gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tree library - multiple children
I have this simple/stupid tree module: https://github.com/abuchanan/bolts/blob/master/bolts/tree.py On Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:14:34 AM UTC-8, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: I need to use a tree structure. Is there a good and known library? Doesn't have to be binary tree, I need to have multiple children per node. Thanks -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On 12/13/2013 11:15 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le jeudi 12 décembre 2013 18:55:15 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit : If you mean cp65xxx (I forget exact numbers), MS Command Prompt fails, not Python. One should not use any other code page, but only other code pages work. Please, do not exaggerate too much. I try not to, so in case I mis-remembered, I tried your experiment. echo ሴé€㑖Ѓ⌴* works. I cut the mixed alphabet input line and pasted into a *fresh* Command Prompt window on my USA Win 7 machine with all updates. C:\Users\Terryecho ?‚* ?‚* About what I expected, except for é becoming ,. Now the test. Change the code page and re-paste. ''' C:\Users\Terrychcp 65001 Active code page: 65001 C:\Users\Terryecho * The system cannot write to the specified device. ''' This a major fail as all non-ascii chars are deleted when pasted (at least visibly) and the echo does not echo. There is no Python involved in this failure. I am willing to believe that you might have gotten different behavior on your French Win 7 machine. Windows is not an international OS, but rather a collection of ghettoized national versions. As I said before, Idle does work in this regard. Python 3.4.0a4 (v3.4.0a4:e245b0d7209b, Oct 20 2013, 19:57:58) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32 ሴé€㑖Ѓ⌴* 'ሴé€㑖Ѓ⌴*' -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tree library - multiple children
El 13/12/13 18:05, bucha...@gmail.com escribió: I have this simple/stupid tree module: https://github.com/abuchanan/bolts/blob/master/bolts/tree.py Thanks, I'll check it. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Filtering and blocking (was Re: Islam is the spammiest subject line on python-list)
On 12/13/2013 11:45 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk wrote: However, we've recently implemented filtering via the gateway, and I've just added bv4 to the list of banned addresses. (I'm not 100% sure I've got it right, so let's see if they make it in again). Thank you Tim. Since bv4... is active again, I was about to either request 'someone' do that, or try to figure out how. What happens if someone else trips the filter (collateral damage)? Are they informed that they're blocked, or does the post get black-holed? The spam filter is different from the block list. The block_list discards. Nikos was warned and informed before being added. I presume bv4 is just blocked. The spam filter sends to a human moderator who either accepts or discards. The filter is not currently tuned to catch CoC violations, such as personal insults, from otherwise normal posters. If it were, moderators could reject with explanation and suggestion to revise. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On 13/12/2013 22:49, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/13/2013 11:15 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le jeudi 12 décembre 2013 18:55:15 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit : If you mean cp65xxx (I forget exact numbers), MS Command Prompt fails, not Python. One should not use any other code page, but only other code pages work. Please, do not exaggerate too much. I try not to, so in case I mis-remembered, I tried your experiment. echo ሴé€㑖Ѓ⌴* works. I cut the mixed alphabet input line and pasted into a *fresh* Command Prompt window on my USA Win 7 machine with all updates. C:\Users\Terryecho ?‚* ?‚* About what I expected, except for é becoming ,. Now the test. Change the code page and re-paste. ''' C:\Users\Terrychcp 65001 Active code page: 65001 C:\Users\Terryecho * The system cannot write to the specified device. ''' This a major fail as all non-ascii chars are deleted when pasted (at least visibly) and the echo does not echo. There is no Python involved in this failure. I am willing to believe that you might have gotten different behavior on your French Win 7 machine. Windows is not an international OS, but rather a collection of ghettoized national versions. As I said before, Idle does work in this regard. Python 3.4.0a4 (v3.4.0a4:e245b0d7209b, Oct 20 2013, 19:57:58) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32 ሴé€㑖Ѓ⌴* 'ሴé€㑖Ѓ⌴*' Seems like we're now in the later stages of the 15, three minute rounds. The trainer won't throw in the towel, the referee won't stop the fight and the boxer himself won't quit. Is jmf actually trying to get himself killed? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On 12/13/2013 11:27 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:15 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: One should recognize, with win7, MS, finally, produce a full unicode system. Strangely, among all the bashing one can read about that system, this is rarely mentioned. (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!) [citation needed] Chris, I hardly think Jim's last statement (which I presume is your target) is egregious enough to start another junk subthread of 9 (now 10) posts. Certainly '[citation needed]' is a pretty senseless comment. 'Citation' to what, for what? It is well-known that Windows uses 2-byte words for unicode coding. If you want a citation for that fact, find it yourself. What is not clear to me is whether Windows internally uses UCS-2, which only codes BMP chars, and which would *not* be excellent, or UTF-16, which covers all chars by using surrogates. I will guess the latter. More to the point, even if MS uses a complete coding scheme internally (UFT-16), it does not, as far as I know, make it fully available and usable to *me*, as I showed in my response about code page 65001. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Chris, I hardly think Jim's last statement (which I presume is your target) is egregious enough to start another junk subthread of 9 (now 10) posts. Certainly '[citation needed]' is a pretty senseless comment. 'Citation' to what, for what? It is well-known that Windows uses 2-byte words for unicode coding. If you want a citation for that fact, find it yourself. What is not clear to me is whether Windows internally uses UCS-2, which only codes BMP chars, and which would *not* be excellent, or UTF-16, which covers all chars by using surrogates. I will guess the latter. More to the point, even if MS uses a complete coding scheme internally (UFT-16), it does not, as far as I know, make it fully available and usable to *me*, as I showed in my response about code page 65001. And what I'm more asking for is a clarification on how Win 7 is different from the previous Windowses. I know a lot did change from XP to 7 (I don't care which side of Vista the change happened, let's just compare the popular Windows with the popular Windows here), but I wasn't aware that anything to do with Unicode had changed there. Since jmf made the assertion in words which implied that Microsoft had now *and only now* produced such a system, I asked for a citation. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On 12/13/2013 03:10 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: Seems like we're now in the later stages of the 15, three minute rounds. The trainer won't throw in the towel, the referee won't stop the fight and the boxer himself won't quit. Is jmf actually trying to get himself killed? His credibility with me has been long dead. :( -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language
On 13/12/2013 23:17, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/13/2013 03:10 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: Seems like we're now in the later stages of the 15, three minute rounds. The trainer won't throw in the towel, the referee won't stop the fight and the boxer himself won't quit. Is jmf actually trying to get himself killed? His credibility with me has been long dead. :( -- ~Ethan~ With me it never lived, we've simply had to put up with his FUD for 16 months. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Is it possible to mix python with php?
Python is my favorite language. Very often, I am forced to use other languages like php because of better library support for web applications. Is it possible to write functions in python and then get php to call these functions? Thank you -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Is it possible to mix python with php?
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:42 PM, JL lightai...@gmail.com wrote: Python is my favorite language. Very often, I am forced to use other languages like php because of better library support for web applications. Is it possible to write functions in python and then get php to call these functions? What sort of libraries are you needing? Often you'll be able to call on those libraries from Python directly (eg if they're written in C, they may well have Python as well as PHP bindings). Have a look on python.org and PyPI for what you're after - chances are it already exists. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Is it possible to mix python with php?
In article cdeeb47d-ab8b-4e78-9be2-ded855230...@googlegroups.com, JL lightai...@gmail.com wrote: Python is my favorite language. Very often, I am forced to use other languages like php because of better library support for web applications. Is it possible to write functions in python and then get php to call these functions? At one time, Songza was half PHP, half Python. The parts ran in separate processes, communicating over HTTP. I think that's probably what you want to do here. If you define a clean, and well-documented interface, nobody has to know what language is running behind it. Even better, if you have a comprehensive test suite for each interface, you can swap out implementations with a fair degree of confidence that you haven't broken anything. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Using Python inside Programming Without Coding Technology (PWCT) environment.
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/693408/Using-Python-inside-Programming-Without-Coding-Tec That page references a license file at http://www.codeproject.com/info/cpol10.aspx but _that_ page would display for me. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: request for guidance
In my opinion, a novice always tries to reinvent the wheel. Take for example a simple text editor. But I would go with something that shows your creativity...like a game. It's not just about code, but graphics/enhancements, and other evolutions of the open source nature of programming. On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM, jennifer stone jenny.stone...@gmail.comwrote: hello! thanks a ton for your warm response. I know the basics of python with some modules like pickle, urllib, re. Its kind of basic I know. but it gotta start somewhere and I really want to have real world experience. thanks jennifer On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:45 AM, jennifer stone jenny.stone...@gmail.com wrote: greetings I am a novice who is really interested in contributing to Python projects. How and where do I begin? thanking you in anticipation -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Best Regards, David Hutto *CEO:* *http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com* -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: request for guidance
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM, David Hutto dwightdhu...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, a novice always tries to reinvent the wheel. Take for example a simple text editor. Which isn't a bad thing. Especially in that particular case, it's good to try your hand at writing a text editor - most of the hard grunt-work is done for you (just plop down an edit control - in some toolkits you can even deploy a control with full source code highlighting), so you can focus on figuring out what it is that makes yours different. And then you'll appreciate other editors more :) But along the way, you'll learn so much about what feels right and what feels wrong. And maybe you can incorporate some of your own special unique features into whatever editor you end up using... quite a few are scriptable. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: request for guidance
Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean reinventing the wheel is a bad thing, just that once you get the hang of things, you need to display some creativity in your work to set yourself apart from the rest. Nowadays, everyone's a programmer. If it weren't for reinventing the wheel, then we wouldn't have abs(antilock breaking systems), or new materials, or different treading for water displacement or hydroplaning. The point was just to try something in python, and to 'boldly go where no 'man' has gone before'. Just to remind her that it's not just about python, but what you can accomplish with it, and distinguish yourself from others. On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM, David Hutto dwightdhu...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, a novice always tries to reinvent the wheel. Take for example a simple text editor. Which isn't a bad thing. Especially in that particular case, it's good to try your hand at writing a text editor - most of the hard grunt-work is done for you (just plop down an edit control - in some toolkits you can even deploy a control with full source code highlighting), so you can focus on figuring out what it is that makes yours different. And then you'll appreciate other editors more :) But along the way, you'll learn so much about what feels right and what feels wrong. And maybe you can incorporate some of your own special unique features into whatever editor you end up using... quite a few are scriptable. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Best Regards, David Hutto *CEO:* *http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com* -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: request for guidance
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:41:09 AM UTC+5:30, David Hutto wrote: Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean reinventing the wheel is a bad thing, just that once you get the hang of things, you need to display some creativity in your work to set yourself apart from the rest. Nowadays, everyone's a programmer. If it weren't for reinventing the wheel, then we wouldn't have abs(antilock breaking systems), or new materials, or different treading for water displacement or hydroplaning. The point was just to try something in python, and to 'boldly go where no 'man' has gone before'. Just to remind her that it's not just about python, but what you can accomplish with it, and distinguish yourself from others. On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:48 PM, David Hutto dwight...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, a novice always tries to reinvent the wheel. Take for example a simple text editor. Which isn't a bad thing. Especially in that particular case, it's good to try your hand at writing a text editor - most of the hard grunt-work is done for you (just plop down an edit control - in some toolkits you can even deploy a control with full source code highlighting), so you can focus on figuring out what it is that makes yours different. And then you'll appreciate other editors more :) But along the way, you'll learn so much about what feels right and what feels wrong. And maybe you can incorporate some of your own special unique features into whatever editor you end up using... quite a few are scriptable. For the young-n-enthu Make haste slowly! is usually good advice -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: request for guidance
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: For the young-n-enthu Make haste slowly! is usually good advice As the Ancient Romans said, festina lente. ChrisA [1] http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/iolanthe/web_op/iol13.html -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The increasing disempowerment of the computer user
Three word response...Conglomerate business intelligence. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:35:37 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Hmm, interesting Freudian slip there. I meant “cloud computing”, of course. That's where the computer owner pretends their service is always available and easy to access, while having terms of service that give them unilateral power to kick you off with no warning, no explanation, no accountability, and no recourse. Now Ben, you know that's not true. Everybody has the only recourse that matters: buy the company and make them do what you want them to do. How hard could that possibly be? -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Best Regards, David Hutto *CEO:* *http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com* -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[issue18986] Add a case-insensitive case-preserving dict
Mark Dickinson added the comment: Mark, what was the use case you found? It's essentially an IdentityDict, though I've found other more specific transforms useful. I was writing a tool to find reference cycles between Python objects (we have a customer application that's working in a multithreaded COM environment and has to ensure that COM objects are released on the same types of threads they were created on, so we have to be careful about cyclic garbage and delayed garbage collection). The graph of Python objects (class 'ObjectGraph') is modelled as a fairly standard directed graph (set of vertices, set of edges, two dictionaries mapping each edge to its head and tail), but of course for this application the dict and set have to be based on object identity rather than normal equality. Using a TransformDict (and an IdentitySet) lets me write the standard graph algorithms (e.g., for finding strongly connected components) in a natural way, leaving it to the TransformDict and IdentitySet to do the necessary id() conversions under the hood.) I also have a similar AnnotatedGraph object (a sort of offline version of the ObjectGraph), where the edges and vertices carry additional information and it's convenient to be able to use a lightweight ID rather than an entire vertex or edge as a dictionary key. Again, using a TransformDict lets one hide the details and present the graph manipulation code readably and naturally. Some code here, if you're interested: https://github.com/mdickinson/refcycle/blob/refactor/refcycle/object_graph.py Caveat: it's work in progress. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18986 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19466] Clear state of threads earlier in Python shutdown
Charles-François Natali added the comment: Hum... Correct me if I'm wrong, but destroying the thread state of daemon threads while they're running is really a bad idea in fact: for example, if warnings are now emitted for unclosed file objects, this means that the file object, and all associated buffers, are destroyed. But even though the daemon thread doesn't hold the GIL, he might still be using this object. For example, if we have: daemon thread: readinto: release_gil read(fd, fileobj-buffer, fileobj-size) acquire_gil and the main thread exits, then fileobj will be deallocated. It's actually fairly easy to write a short crasher launching a deamon thread reading from e.g. /dev/zero in loop, with the main thread exiting right in the middle. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19466 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19230] Reimplement the keyword module in C
Christian Heimes added the comment: I still like the idea, too. It's more elegant, easier to maintain and gives a speedup, too. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19230 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19965] Non-atomic generation of Include/Python-ast.h and Python/Python-ast.c
Charles-François Natali added the comment: Here's a patch. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file33113/makefile_ast_h.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19965 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19970] Typo of `immediatly` and `agin` words
Changes by Vajrasky Kok sky@speaklikeaking.com: Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file33115/fix_typo_agin_and_immediatly_python33.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19970 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19970] Typo of `immediatly` and `agin` words
New submission from Vajrasky Kok: ethan@amiau:~/Documents/code/python/cpython3.4$ grep -R immediatly * Doc/library/asyncio-protocol.rst::meth:`Transport.close` can be called immediatly after Lib/test/test_signal.py:# unblock the pending signal calls immediatly the signal handler Modules/faulthandler.c:/* call the previous signal handler: it is called immediatly if we use ethan@amiau:~/Documents/code/python/cpython3.4$ grep -R agin * Modules/posixmodule.c: the symlink path agin and not the actual final path. */ Modules/posixmodule.c: the symlink path agin and not the actual final path. */ -- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation, Extension Modules, Library (Lib) files: fix_typo_agin_and_immediatly_python34.patch keywords: patch messages: 206031 nosy: docs@python, vajrasky priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Typo of `immediatly` and `agin` words type: enhancement versions: Python 3.3, Python 3.4 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file33114/fix_typo_agin_and_immediatly_python34.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19970 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19466] Clear state of threads earlier in Python shutdown
STINNER Victor added the comment: It's actually fairly easy to write a short crasher launching a deamon thread reading from e.g. /dev/zero in loop, with the main thread exiting right in the middle. I'm unable to write such crasher, can you please give an example? Are you able to crash Python on Linux or on Python 3.3? Does the threading test makes sense? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19466 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19969] PyBytes_FromFormatV(%c) and PyString_FromFormatV(%c) don't check for character min/max value
STINNER Victor added the comment: Updated patch for Serhiy's remark (replace ValueError with OverflowError). -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file33116/bytes_fromformat_c-2.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19969 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19965] Non-atomic generation of Include/Python-ast.h and Python/Python-ast.c
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: LGTM. -- assignee: - neologix stage: - commit review ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19965 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19969] PyBytes_FromFormatV(%c) and PyString_FromFormatV(%c) don't check for character min/max value
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: LGTM. -- assignee: - haypo stage: - commit review type: - behavior versions: +Python 2.7, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19969 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19971] Remove Tulip words from asyncio documentation/code
New submission from Vajrasky Kok: I was reading the documentation about asyncio. Here is the introduction paragraph: Doc/library/asyncio.rst === This module provides infrastructure for writing single-threaded concurrent code using coroutines, multiplexing I/O access over sockets and other resources, running network clients and servers, and other related primitives. Here is a more detailed list of the package contents: Then I read it like a novel. Then somewhere out of the blue, the Tulip word shows up. Doc/library/asyncio-sync.rst Unlike the standard library :mod:`queue`, you can reliably know this Queue's size with :meth:`qsize`, since your single-threaded Tulip application won't be interrupted between calling :meth:`qsize` and doing an operation on the Queue. The Tulip word breaks the flow of the story because we never introduce the Tulip word previously. There are two ways to handle this situation: 1. Introduce the Tulip word in the introduction and other parts consistently, 2. Remove the references to Tulip. I suggest we take option 2 (users of Python 3.4 asyncio stdlib have no reason to know the word Tulip). Here is the patch. -- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation files: remove_Tulip.patch keywords: patch messages: 206036 nosy: docs@python, gvanrossum, vajrasky priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Remove Tulip words from asyncio documentation/code type: enhancement versions: Python 3.4 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file33117/remove_Tulip.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19971 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19971] Remove Tulip words from asyncio documentation/code
STINNER Victor added the comment: I agree to drop references to the Tulip name. Thanks for your patch. changeset: 87927:10378199e37b tag: tip user:Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com date:Fri Dec 13 10:57:04 2013 +0100 files: Doc/library/asyncio-sync.rst Doc/whatsnew/3.4.rst Lib/asyncio/queues.py Lib/asyncio/test_utils.py description: asyncio: remove references to the Tulip project, rename Tulip to asyncio. Patch written by Vajrasky Kok. -- nosy: +haypo resolution: - fixed status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19971 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
