[issue24667] OrderedDict.popitem()/__str__() raises KeyError

2015-07-21 Thread Fabian

Fabian added the comment:

It is consistent as in it happens on every run of the test suite. But 
unfortunately I haven't checked if it's always happening at the same place. 
Luckily we have 4 builds on Travis with 3.6 and in all it happened from the 
beginning and got  100 matches for “KeyError:”:

* https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/pywikibot-core/jobs/71537432#L274
* https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/pywikibot-core/jobs/71626596#L274
* https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/pywikibot-core/jobs/71636529#L274
* https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/pywikibot-core/jobs/71637809#L274
* https://travis-ci.org/xZise/pywikibot-core/builds/71550286#L274

Maybe I can do additional analysis but I'm pretty sure for me locally I didn't 
get failures so soon.

And no I wasn't aware about OrderedDict implemented in C. Now I haven't done 
tests in 3.5.0b3 (which seems to be the newest version of 3.5 available via 
pyenv at the moment) as it's relatively cumbersome and prevents me from doing 
any development on pywikibot at the same time. Anyway I still might do it and 
report whether I get the error too (unless OrderedDict is still implemented in 
Python in that version).

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[issue24485] Function source inspection fails on closures

2015-07-21 Thread Yury Selivanov

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Meador, the patch looks OK.  Could you please commit it yourself?

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Re: Where is the c source code of the import mechanism that ignores invalid directory?

2015-07-21 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 21/07/2015 16:35, Shiyao Ma wrote:

Hi,

It looks to me that the import system of Python will ignore invalid
directories and cache the result in memory.

For example, the following code:
paste here: https://bpaste.net/show/b144deb42620

#!/usr/bin/env python3

import  sys
import  os
import  shutil

sys.path.append(./test)
shutil.rmtree(./test,  ignore_errors=True)

try:
 import  foo
except  ImportError:
 os.mkdir(./test)
 with  open(./test/foo.py,  w)  as  f:
 f.write(print(3))

 import  foo

the second import foo will fail even though it's there. This is because
when doing the first import foo, the directory .test doesn't exist, and
Python ignores that directory forever.


I am interested in the c side implementation of this ignoring part.


Any body help me to pinpoint the exact c source location?

Thanks.

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Re: Where is the c source code of the import mechanism that ignores invalid directory?

2015-07-21 Thread Shiyao Ma
Yep. I followed from bltmodule.c(the import function) and got to the
import.c file, and finally got lost.


Regards.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

 On 21/07/2015 16:35, Shiyao Ma wrote:

 Hi,

 It looks to me that the import system of Python will ignore invalid
 directories and cache the result in memory.

 For example, the following code:
 paste here: https://bpaste.net/show/b144deb42620

 #!/usr/bin/env python3

 import  sys
 import  os
 import  shutil

 sys.path.append(./test)
 shutil.rmtree(./test,  ignore_errors=True)

 try:
  import  foo
 except  ImportError:
  os.mkdir(./test)
  with  open(./test/foo.py,  w)  as  f:
  f.write(print(3))

  import  foo

 the second import foo will fail even though it's there. This is because
 when doing the first import foo, the directory .test doesn't exist, and
 Python ignores that directory forever.


 I am interested in the c side implementation of this ignoring part.


 Any body help me to pinpoint the exact c source location?

 Thanks.

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[issue23591] Add IntFlags

2015-07-21 Thread Ethan Furman

Ethan Furman added the comment:

My experience is that a module maintainer, or somebody claiming to speak for 
the module maintainer, can close any issue in their area at any time regardless 
of the number of core devs in favor of a change.

Whatever.  I'll leave this open and write up a spec of what IntFlags should 
look like in case somebody wants to write the patch for it.

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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread ryguy7272
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 10:50:09 PM UTC-4, ryguy7272 wrote:
 I'm trying to copy some Python code from a PDF book that I'm reading.  I want 
 to test out the code, and I can copy it, but when I paste it into the Shell, 
 everything is all screwed up because of the indentation. Every time I paste 
 in any kind of code, it seems like everything is immediately left-justified, 
 and then nothing works.
 
 Any idea how to make this work easily?  Without re-typing hundreds of lines 
 of code...
 
 Thanks to all.

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[issue24653] Mock.assert_has_calls([]) is surprising for users

2015-07-21 Thread Robert Collins

Robert Collins added the comment:

Ok, so as a doc bug this should still be tracked here - I'm going to reopen it 
to reflect that, hope thats ok.

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Re: Is there a way to install ALL Python packages?

2015-07-21 Thread Todd
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:10 PM, tjohnson tandrewjohn...@outlook.com
wrote:

 On 7/20/2015 10:57 PM, ryguy7272 wrote:

 I'd like to install ALL Python packages on my machine.  Even if it takes
 up 4-5GB, or more, I'd like to get everything, and then use it when I need
 it.  Now, I'd like to import packages, like numpy and pandas, but nothing
 will install.  I figure, if I can just install everything, I can simply use
 it when I need it, and if I don't need it, then I just won't use it.

 I know R offers this as an option.  I figure Python must allow it too.

 Any idea  how to grab everything?

 Thanks all.

  As others have stated, this is not practical with Python. If you were to
 install every single package from PyPI, you'd end up with packages like
 funny 0.1 or Barun_Heehaw, which is described as A sample junk project.
 (No, I'm not joking.)


The latter being, literally, a Hello world project and nothing else.
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[issue24651] Mock.assert* API is in user namespace

2015-07-21 Thread Carl Meyer

Carl Meyer added the comment:

Er, I meant `AttributeError`, of course...

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[issue24651] Mock.assert* API is in user namespace

2015-07-21 Thread Carl Meyer

Carl Meyer added the comment:

As a frequent and long-time user of mock, the `assert_*` methods being on the 
mock object itself has always struck me as an unfortunate wart on an otherwise 
great library. The change to raise `AssertionError` on `assert_*` and 
`assret_*` feels like piling an ugly band-aid on top of the wart. I'd love to 
see Robert's suggested solution of moving the assertion helpers to standalone 
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Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?

2015-07-21 Thread Rick Johnson
On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 4:22:50 PM UTC-5, bream...@gmail.com wrote:

 It was actually Rustom who posted inaccurate data as only
 core-devs have commit rights.

Well-well. We now find ourselves before the royal court of
logic: If we are to take your statement as fact, then only
two possibilities exist:

  (a) Mark is a core dev who has committed patches and is a
  bully.
  
  (b) Mark is not a core dev, and therefor can not commit
  anything, therefor he's a bully *AND* a hypocrite!

Which is it?

 It would appear that your knowledge of the current
 development process is as good as your knowledge of
 European geography.

So you've been lurking in that thread also? As with this
thread, folks have mis-interpreted my words. When i get a
chance to respond over there, you shall become enlightened
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[issue12067] Doc: remove errors about mixed-type comparisons.

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Panter

Martin Panter added the comment:

Patch v15. No doc changes, but I refactored the test code:

* Manually merged with recent changes
* Separate assert_equality_only() and assert_total_order() test methods. 
Hopefully this is a bit simpler for people to understand and review, and avoids 
suggesting that partial ordering is tested.
* Dropped subTest() instances with identical parameters. The basic stack trace 
can already distinguish these.
* Eliminated is_value_comparable(); remove the ”meth” parameters from the call 
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Re: Is there a way to install ALL Python packages?

2015-07-21 Thread ryguy7272
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 10:57:47 PM UTC-4, ryguy7272 wrote:
 I'd like to install ALL Python packages on my machine.  Even if it takes up 
 4-5GB, or more, I'd like to get everything, and then use it when I need it.  
 Now, I'd like to import packages, like numpy and pandas, but nothing will 
 install.  I figure, if I can just install everything, I can simply use it 
 when I need it, and if I don't need it, then I just won't use it.
 
 I know R offers this as an option.  I figure Python must allow it too.
 
 Any idea  how to grab everything?
 
 Thanks all.


Thanks for the tip.  I just downloaded and installed Anaconda.  I just 
successfully ran my first Python script.  So, so happy now.  Thanks again!!
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[issue24681] Put most likely test first is set_add_entry()

2015-07-21 Thread Raymond Hettinger

New submission from Raymond Hettinger:

Since the *found_active* exit is like the *found_error* exit in that it makes 
no further use of *entry*, it can be moved before the table/entry_key check 
whose purpose is to make sure the *entry* pointer is still valid.  This change 
doesn't apply to lookkey() which makes downstream use of the entry pointer.  In 
constrast, set_add_entry() is fully self-contained now and only returns a 0 or 
-1 rather than a pointer into the set table.

This puts the most likely test case first, putting it ahead of the two memory 
reloads in table/entry_key check.

Also, add an else if to the initial freeslot check to make it match the 
corresponding else if in the linear probe loop.

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[issue24603] Update OpenSSL to 1.0.2d in Windows and OS X installer

2015-07-21 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 53c0c8914ad0 by Zachary Ware in branch '2.7':
Issue #24603: Update Windows build to use OpenSSL 1.0.2d
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/53c0c8914ad0

New changeset f4cd9ac378d7 by Zachary Ware in branch '3.4':
Issue #24603: Update the Windows build to use OpenSSL 1.0.2d
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/f4cd9ac378d7

New changeset 2930e23d729f by Zachary Ware in branch '3.5':
Issue #24603: Update the Windows build to use OpenSSL 1.0.2d
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/2930e23d729f

New changeset 310613b993d4 by Zachary Ware in branch 'default':
Issue #24603: Merge with 3.5
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/310613b993d4

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[issue24682] Add Quick Start: Communications section to devguide

2015-07-21 Thread Carol Willing

New submission from Carol Willing:

Add a Quick Start: Communications section to devguide (or Q S: Community 
Interaction) as discussed on python-dev mailing list today.

The Quick Start: Communications section should be brief, link to other sections 
in the devguide, and give contributor's guidance about mailing list usage. It 
is possible that new sections of the devguide will be created to provide 
additional detail and be referenced by the Quick Start: Communications section. 

Rename existing devguide/#quick-start 'Quick Start' to 'Quick Start: Code 
Development'. Thanks Terry Reedy for the name suggestions.

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Re: Address field [was: Integers with leading zeroes]

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Jason Friedman jsf80...@gmail.com wrote:
 Of course, most of the
 time, I advocate a single multi-line text field Address, and let
 people key them in free-form. No postcode field whatsoever.

 I'm curious about that statement.
 I could see accepting input as you describe above, but I'm thinking
 you'd want to *store* a postcode field.

Actually, no. Apart from statisticking, there's not a lot I can do
with a postcode. Due to the nature of international addressing, it's
usually safest to go to one extreme or the other: either full-on
address validation that knows about every delivery point in every
nation that you support (viable if you support only one country, and
that country's postal service offers an API - happens here in
Australia), or no validation whatsoever, and a simple free-form field
for people to enter what they will. Most of the times I've been
setting things up, they're too low-end to justify the former, so I
recommend the latter. Sure, there might be typos... but there might be
those anyway, with a classic multi-part form. (I do recommend having a
drop-down select box for the country, incidentally. That's easily
validated.)

Storing postcodes works nicely once you've settled that they're all
part of a single country. When you want to do statistics on postcodes,
it's not usually too hard to rip them out of the blob and work with
them, but they're unreliable anyway unless you've gone the full-on
validation route. So I tend to just not do the stats at all :)

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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Christian Gollwitzer aurio...@gmx.de wrote:
 On 21.07.2015 04:55, Chris Angelico wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, ryguy7272 ryanshu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm trying to copy some Python code from a PDF book that I'm reading.  I
 want to test out the code, and I can copy it, but when I paste it into the
 Shell, everything is all screwed up because of the indentation. Every time I
 paste in any kind of code, it seems like everything is immediately
 left-justified, and then nothing works.

 Any idea how to make this work easily?  Without re-typing hundreds of
 lines of code...


 Sounds like a flaw in the PDF - it creates indentation in some way
 other than leading spaces/tabs.


 PDF never uses tabs and spaces for indentation. In a PDF file, typically all
 words are placed using a drawing operator individually, the space is made up
 by your eyes when see the file. While space characters exist in fonts, they
 are practically never used. Often even inside a word there are breaks,
 because of kerning corrections. When copying the data, the PDF reader has to
 guess where the word breaks are and how the strings belong together. Acrobat
 does a good job, but fails in this special situation. Sometimes it even
 fails for a narrow running font and copies the string without any word
 breaks.

Ah. I've never dug into PDF's internal details, but the above
explanation completely doesn't surprise me.

Tip, to document publishers: Don't use PDF for anything containing
Python code. Thanks!

Actually, maybe don't use PDF at all. I keep having to help my Mum
deal with stupid problems with PDF documents she gets, and I'm never
sure whether the fault is with the PDF creation software, the human
operating said software, or limitations in the file format itself.

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Re: Is there a way to install ALL Python packages?

2015-07-21 Thread ryguy7272
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 10:57:47 PM UTC-4, ryguy7272 wrote:
 I'd like to install ALL Python packages on my machine.  Even if it takes up 
 4-5GB, or more, I'd like to get everything, and then use it when I need it.  
 Now, I'd like to import packages, like numpy and pandas, but nothing will 
 install.  I figure, if I can just install everything, I can simply use it 
 when I need it, and if I don't need it, then I just won't use it.
 
 I know R offers this as an option.  I figure Python must allow it too.
 
 Any idea  how to grab everything?
 
 Thanks all.

Ok, this makes sense.  Thanks for the insight everyone!!
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Where is the c source code of the import mechanism that ignores invalid directory?

2015-07-21 Thread Shiyao Ma
Hi,

It looks to me that the import system of Python will ignore invalid
directories and cache the result in memory.

For example, the following code:
paste here: https://bpaste.net/show/b144deb42620

#!/usr/bin/env python3
import sysimport osimport shutil
sys.path.append(./test)shutil.rmtree(./test, ignore_errors=True)
try:
import fooexcept ImportError:
os.mkdir(./test)
with open(./test/foo.py, w) as f:
f.write(print(3))

import foo

the second import foo will fail even though it's there. This is because
when doing the first import foo, the directory .test doesn't exist, and
Python ignores that directory forever.


I am interested in the c side implementation of this ignoring part.


Any body help me to pinpoint the exact c source location?


Thanks.


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[issue24669] inspect.getsource() returns the wrong lines for coroutine functions

2015-07-21 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset f02c5bf59fbb by Yury Selivanov in branch '3.5':
Issue #24669: Fix inspect.getsource() for 'async def' functions.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/f02c5bf59fbb

New changeset 6629773fef63 by Yury Selivanov in branch 'default':
Merge 3.5 (Issue #24669)
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/6629773fef63

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[issue24669] inspect.getsource() returns the wrong lines for coroutine functions

2015-07-21 Thread Yury Selivanov

Yury Selivanov added the comment:

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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Ben Bacarisse
Christian Gollwitzer aurio...@gmx.de writes:

 On 21.07.2015 04:55, Chris Angelico wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, ryguy7272 ryanshu...@gmail.com wrote:
 [...]   Every time I paste in any kind of code, it seems
 like everything is immediately left-justified, and then nothing
 works.
snip
 Sounds like a flaw in the PDF - it creates indentation in some way
 other than leading spaces/tabs.

 PDF never uses tabs and spaces for indentation. In a PDF file,
 typically all words are placed using a drawing operator individually,
 the space is made up by your eyes when see the file.

It's not really a PDF issue.  It's to do with how the document is
produced.  I've just looked at a few PDF files and I have found all
three layout methods used for code: positioning, spaces and tabs.  Of
course those that use spaces may be violating some PDF rule or other,
but such files certainly exist in the wild.

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[issue22123] Provide a direct function for types.SimpleNamespace()

2015-07-21 Thread Berker Peksag

Changes by Berker Peksag berker.pek...@gmail.com:


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Re: Integers with leading zeroes

2015-07-21 Thread Antoon Pardon
On 07/19/2015 07:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
 In Python 2, integer literals with leading zeroes are treated as octal, so
 09 is a syntax error and 010 is 8.
 
 This is confusing to those not raised on C-style octal literals, so in
 Python 3 leading zeroes are prohibited in int literals. Octal is instead
 written using the prefix 0o, similar to hex 0x and binary 0b.
 
 Consequently Python 3 makes both 09 and 010 a syntax error.
 
 However there is one exception: zero itself is allowed any number of leading
 zeroes, so 0 is a legal way to write zero as a base-10 int literal.
 
 Does anyone use that (mis)feature?
 

Yes. I like to sometime write numbers with leading zeros.
Sometimes these numbers represent codeblocks of a fixed
number of digits. Always writing those numbers with this
number of digits helps being aware of this. It is also
easier for when you need to know how many leading zero's
such a number has.


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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 22 Jul 2015 00:48:06 +1000, Chris Angelico writes:
Actually, maybe don't use PDF at all. I keep having to help my Mum
deal with stupid problems with PDF documents she gets, and I'm never
sure whether the fault is with the PDF creation software, the human
operating said software, or limitations in the file format itself.

ChrisA

Lots of the problems are with the free reader, adobe acrobat.  It is
designed so that the user is kept very much in a straight-jacket which
is a problem when your Mum needs, for instance, things to be in 36 point
for her to be able to read things at all because she is nearly blind.

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Re: Proposed keyword to transfer control to another function

2015-07-21 Thread Antoon Pardon
On 07/19/2015 02:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Gregory Ewing
 greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:

 Personally I'd be fine with your initial syntax, but
 something else might be needed to get it past Guido.
 He didn't like my 'cocall f()' construct in PEP 3152,
 which is syntactically isomorphic to 'transfer f()'.
 
 Maybe it should get written up and rejected, then, to be something to
 point to any time anyone advocates TCO.

Those who remember the history of pep 308 will not find
that a strong deterrent.


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Re: Integers with leading zeroes

2015-07-21 Thread Emile van Sebille

On 7/21/2015 10:58 AM, sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote:


IMO, leading zeroes just looks like visual noise, and if I wanted to align 
numbers, I'd just use spaces.



Aligning numbers using spaces doesn't always align -- using zeros does.

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Re: Where is the c source code of the import mechanism that ignores invalid directory?

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Shiyao Ma i...@introo.me wrote:
 Yep. I followed from bltmodule.c(the import function) and got to the
 import.c file, and finally got lost.


What version of CPython are you looking at? If it's a sufficiently
recent version, you may want to look at importlib instead.

https://docs.python.org/3/library/importlib.html

That'll be a LOT easier to work through.

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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 at 17:16 Ben Bacarisse ben.use...@bsb.me.uk wrote:

 Christian Gollwitzer aurio...@gmx.de writes:

  On 21.07.2015 04:55, Chris Angelico wrote:

 Sounds like a flaw in the PDF - it creates indentation in some way
  other than leading spaces/tabs.
 
  PDF never uses tabs and spaces for indentation. In a PDF file,
  typically all words are placed using a drawing operator individually,
  the space is made up by your eyes when see the file.

 It's not really a PDF issue.  It's to do with how the document is
 produced.  I've just looked at a few PDF files and I have found all
 three layout methods used for code: positioning, spaces and tabs.  Of
 course those that use spaces may be violating some PDF rule or other,
 but such files certainly exist in the wild.


They're not violating any PDF rule. PDF as a format was not designed with
this kind of usage in mind. The idea of a PDF is that contains as much
information as is required to unambiguously represent the *appearance* of a
document. It's really a vectorised image format (like SVG) but with a few
extra document-like features (e.g. pages).

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Re: Proposed keyword to transfer control to another function

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Antoon Pardon
antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote:
 On 07/19/2015 02:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Gregory Ewing
 greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:

 Personally I'd be fine with your initial syntax, but
 something else might be needed to get it past Guido.
 He didn't like my 'cocall f()' construct in PEP 3152,
 which is syntactically isomorphic to 'transfer f()'.

 Maybe it should get written up and rejected, then, to be something to
 point to any time anyone advocates TCO.

 Those who remember the history of pep 308 will not find
 that a strong deterrent.

It doesn't have to be a deterrent. It just has to say Here's all the
arguments we came up with in 2015, so find answers to those if you
want to reopen the debate. It's effectively a way of rapidly
onboarding the conclusions from a lengthy discussion, much more easily
than pointing someone to the archive and expecting him/her to read
through it all.

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Re: Noob in Python. Problem with fairly simple test case

2015-07-21 Thread Jason P.
El miércoles, 15 de julio de 2015, 14:12:08 (UTC+2), Chris Angelico  escribió:
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Jason P. suscrici...@gmail.com wrote:
  I can't understand very well what's happening. It seems that the main 
  thread gets blocked listening to the web server. My intent was to spawn 
  another process for the server independent of the test. Obviously I'm doing 
  something wrong. I've made several guesses commenting pieces of code 
  (tearDown method for example) but I didn't manage to solve the problem(s).
 
 
 When you find yourself making guesses to try to figure out what's
 going on, here are two general tips:
 
 1) Cut out as many pieces as you can. Test one small thing at a time.
 2) If In Doubt, Print It Out! Stick print() calls into the code at key
 places, displaying the values of parameters or the results of
 intermediate calculations - or just saying Hi, I'm still here and I'm
 running!.
 
 For #1, I would recommend first just trying to get the web service
 going. Can you connect (using an external program) on port 8000 and
 receive a text/plain HTTP response saying Hello World!? Never mind
 about the test for the moment.
 
 And for #2, judicious placement of console output will help you figure
 out things you're not sure about. For instance, you're suspecting that
 the main thread is getting blocked handling the web server. Easy way
 to check:
 
 def setUp(self):
 # Start the forecast server
 self.server = ForecastServer()
 self.server.start(webservice.app)
 
 Just before you construct the server, print something out. After
 you've constructed it but before you call start(), print something
 out. And after starting it, print something out. Then run the program.
 If you see the first line and no other, then it's blocking during the
 construction. Other deductions I'm sure you can figure out.
 
 One small point: Probe even things that you think are trivial. In the
 above example, I cannot see any reason why constructing
 ForecastServer() could possibly block, because its init does nothing
 but set a flag. But you can get surprised by things sometimes - maybe
 the problem is actually that you're not running the code you think you
 are, but there's some other ForecastServer kicking in, and it's
 synchronous rather than subprocess-based.
 
 End-to-end testing is all very well, but when something goes wrong,
 the key is to break the program down into smaller parts. Otherwise,
 all you have is it doesn't work, which is one of the most useless
 error reports ever. If someone comes to python-list saying it doesn't
 work, we'll be asking him/her to give a lot more details; if your
 aunt asks you for help printing out a document because it doesn't
 work, you'll probably have to go over and watch her attempt it; and
 it's the same with your test cases - you make them tell you more
 details.
 
 Hope that helps! The techniques I'm offering are completely
 problem-independent, and even language-independent. IIDPIO debugging
 works in anything that gives you a console, which is pretty much
 everything - maybe it won't be print() but logging.debug(), but the
 same technique works.
 
 ChrisA


Thanks for your comments Chris.

I've come back to the problem today after a few days on trip. Fortunately 
someone in other mailing list pointed me that the join method was hanging the 
main thread. Without this inconvenience I can focus on the exercise's main goal.

Despite the impression that surely I gave, I'm quite familiar with programming 
and general bug hunting rules. The problem is that I'm inexperienced with 
Python and the subtle details of multiple threads ;)

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Re: Noob in Python. Problem with fairly simple test case

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Jason P. suscrici...@gmail.com wrote:
 Despite the impression that surely I gave, I'm quite familiar with 
 programming and general bug hunting rules. The problem is that I'm 
 inexperienced with Python and the subtle details of multiple threads ;)


Heh, it doesn't hurt to remind people of basic debugging techniques
sometimes. Worst case, you come back and say Yep, I tried that, and
here's the result. Best case, someone else (who doesn't know what you
know) will come along with a superficially similar problem, will see
the suggested technique, and even if the actual issue is quite
different, will be better able to diagnose it.

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Re: Integers with leading zeroes

2015-07-21 Thread sohcahtoa82
On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 10:22:44 AM UTC-7, Antoon Pardon wrote:
 On 07/19/2015 07:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
  In Python 2, integer literals with leading zeroes are treated as octal, so
  09 is a syntax error and 010 is 8.
  
  This is confusing to those not raised on C-style octal literals, so in
  Python 3 leading zeroes are prohibited in int literals. Octal is instead
  written using the prefix 0o, similar to hex 0x and binary 0b.
  
  Consequently Python 3 makes both 09 and 010 a syntax error.
  
  However there is one exception: zero itself is allowed any number of leading
  zeroes, so 0 is a legal way to write zero as a base-10 int literal.
  
  Does anyone use that (mis)feature?
  
 
 Yes. I like to sometime write numbers with leading zeros.
 Sometimes these numbers represent codeblocks of a fixed
 number of digits. Always writing those numbers with this
 number of digits helps being aware of this. It is also
 easier for when you need to know how many leading zero's
 such a number has.

IMO, leading zeroes just looks like visual noise, and if I wanted to align 
numbers, I'd just use spaces.
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Re: convert output to list(and nested dictionary)

2015-07-21 Thread Pablo Lucena
​str.split and re are a nice quick way to do it:

 def get_data(data):
import re
port_re = re.compile(r'(\w+)\((\S+-\S+)\)')
cidr_re = re.compile(r'\[(.*?)\]')
_, proto_port, cidr = data.rsplit(:, 2)
port_match = port_re.search(proto_port)
proto, port = port_match.group(1), port_match.group(2)
port = port.split(-)[0]
cidr_match = cidr_re.search(cidr)
cidr = cidr_match.group(1)
return dict(port=port, proto=proto, cidr=cidr)

 get_data(SecurityGroup:default sg-e1304484 inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)  source: [67.184.225.222/32])
{'cidr': '67.184.225.222/32', 'proto': 'tcp', 'port': '80'}
 get_data(SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
IPPermissions:-1(None-None)  source: [sg-e632d982-995635159130])
{'cidr': 'sg-e632d982-995635159130', 'proto': '1', 'port': 'None'}


​You can alter this and add whatever extra checks you need as Chris A
mentioned (when proto is -1 and port is None-None, or the icmp case). This
is just a very crude example, but hopefully you get the drift.

Most text parsing problems can easily be solved with these simple tools.
Fire up your shell and test it - this is really the best way to learn how
to do something like this.


On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:12 PM, max scalf oracle.bl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 For Each SecurityGroup, how can i convert that into a List that in turn
 will have a dictionary of the cidr block, protocol type and the port...so
 from output below, the SecurityGroup called default had 2
 rules...allowing TCP port from 80 and 5500 to the source IP and then
 SecurityGroup called Pub_HDP_SG had only one rule...so on and so
 forthhere is the output that i am trying to get out in the form of a
 list

 what I am planning to do is, take the list(and nested dictionary) and pass
 that to a function that will in turn spitout a cloudformation template
 using troposphere (something like 
 http://imil.net/wp/2015/06/04/rock-your-cloudformation-with-troposphere-and-boto/
 )


 For Better Readablity (http://pastebin.com/rT6Aswwz)

 import boto.ec2

 sgs = boto.ec2.connect_to_region('us-east-1').get_all_security_groups()

 for sg in sgs:

 for rule in sg.rules:

 print sg, sg.id, inbound:, rule,  source:, rule.grants


 SecurityGroup:default sg-e1304484 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)
  source: [67.184.225.222/32]

 SecurityGroup:default sg-e1304484 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(5500-5500)
  source: [67.184.225.222/32]

 SecurityGroup:Pub_HDP_SG sg-e632d982 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)
  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:sg3-MySecurityGroup-LB0QF9UQAOEF sg-4fe73728 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:sg3-MySecurityGroup-LB0QF9UQAOEF sg-4fe73728 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:RDP Rule - open everyone  sg-42d58d27 inbound:
 IPPermissions:-1(None-None)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:us-east-open-all sg-97ffa7f2 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:us-east-open-all sg-97ffa7f2 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(53-53)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:-1(None-None)  source: [sg-e632d982-995635159130]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [67.184.225.222/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(1024-65535)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)  source: [24.12.30.198/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:udp(138-138)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:udp(53-53)  source: [24.12.30.198/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(30015-30015)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:icmp(-1--1)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:default sg-c65a20a3 inbound: IPPermissions:-1(None-None)
  source: [sg-c65a20a3-995635159130]

 SecurityGroup:default sg-c65a20a3 inbound: IPPermissions:-1(None-None)
  source: [sg-99c4befc-995635159130]

 SecurityGroup:sg3-MySecurityGroup2-1HGPN4UF57XN6 sg-4ee73729 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [192.168.1.12/32]

 SecurityGroup:AWS-AMI-SG sg-35568d51 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)
  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:launch-wizard-2 sg-932255f6 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:launch-wizard-2 sg-932255f6 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(443-443)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 


 Here is the output i am looking for


 rule1 = [{

 'cidr': '67.184.225.222/32',

 'proto': 'tcp',

 'port': 80

 },{

 'cidr': '67.184.225.222/32',

 'proto': 'tcp',

 'port': 5500

 }]


 rule2 = [{

 'cidr': '[0.0.0.0/0',

 'proto': 'tcp',

 'port': 80

 }]


 rule3 = [{

 'cidr': '0.0.0.0/0',

 'proto': 'tcp',

 'port': 22

 },{


[issue24619] async/await parser issues

2015-07-21 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Patch  test cases look good to me.

I'm so used to thinking of the tokenisation phase as a linear token stream
that it never occurred to me to just count the function nesting directly to
determine if the async def tokenisation rules are in effect - it's a very
nice simplifying improvement.

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Re: convert output to list(and nested dictionary)

2015-07-21 Thread max scalf
Thank you all.  I have gotten some great response, so i am going to play
around with this and see how it turns out.  As Pablo pointed out, best way
to learn is to try it out and see how it goes.  Thanks again and i will
keep the list posted.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:03 PM, Pablo Lucena plucen...@gmail.com wrote:

 ​str.split and re are a nice quick way to do it:

  def get_data(data):
 import re
 port_re = re.compile(r'(\w+)\((\S+-\S+)\)')
 cidr_re = re.compile(r'\[(.*?)\]')
 _, proto_port, cidr = data.rsplit(:, 2)
 port_match = port_re.search(proto_port)
 proto, port = port_match.group(1), port_match.group(2)
 port = port.split(-)[0]
 cidr_match = cidr_re.search(cidr)
 cidr = cidr_match.group(1)
 return dict(port=port, proto=proto, cidr=cidr)

  get_data(SecurityGroup:default sg-e1304484 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)  source: [67.184.225.222/32])
 {'cidr': '67.184.225.222/32', 'proto': 'tcp', 'port': '80'}
  get_data(SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:-1(None-None)  source: [sg-e632d982-995635159130])
 {'cidr': 'sg-e632d982-995635159130', 'proto': '1', 'port': 'None'}


 ​You can alter this and add whatever extra checks you need as Chris A
 mentioned (when proto is -1 and port is None-None, or the icmp case). This
 is just a very crude example, but hopefully you get the drift.

 Most text parsing problems can easily be solved with these simple tools.
 Fire up your shell and test it - this is really the best way to learn how
 to do something like this.


 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:12 PM, max scalf oracle.bl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 For Each SecurityGroup, how can i convert that into a List that in turn
 will have a dictionary of the cidr block, protocol type and the port...so
 from output below, the SecurityGroup called default had 2
 rules...allowing TCP port from 80 and 5500 to the source IP and then
 SecurityGroup called Pub_HDP_SG had only one rule...so on and so
 forthhere is the output that i am trying to get out in the form of a
 list

 what I am planning to do is, take the list(and nested dictionary) and
 pass that to a function that will in turn spitout a cloudformation template
 using troposphere (something like 
 http://imil.net/wp/2015/06/04/rock-your-cloudformation-with-troposphere-and-boto/
 )


 For Better Readablity (http://pastebin.com/rT6Aswwz)

 import boto.ec2

 sgs = boto.ec2.connect_to_region('us-east-1').get_all_security_groups()

 for sg in sgs:

 for rule in sg.rules:

 print sg, sg.id, inbound:, rule,  source:, rule.grants


 SecurityGroup:default sg-e1304484 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)
  source: [67.184.225.222/32]

 SecurityGroup:default sg-e1304484 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(5500-5500)
  source: [67.184.225.222/32]

 SecurityGroup:Pub_HDP_SG sg-e632d982 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)
  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:sg3-MySecurityGroup-LB0QF9UQAOEF sg-4fe73728 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:sg3-MySecurityGroup-LB0QF9UQAOEF sg-4fe73728 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:RDP Rule - open everyone  sg-42d58d27 inbound:
 IPPermissions:-1(None-None)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:us-east-open-all sg-97ffa7f2 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:us-east-open-all sg-97ffa7f2 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(53-53)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:-1(None-None)  source: [sg-e632d982-995635159130]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [67.184.225.222/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(1024-65535)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)  source: [24.12.30.198/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:udp(138-138)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:udp(53-53)  source: [24.12.30.198/32]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(30015-30015)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
 IPPermissions:icmp(-1--1)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:default sg-c65a20a3 inbound: IPPermissions:-1(None-None)
  source: [sg-c65a20a3-995635159130]

 SecurityGroup:default sg-c65a20a3 inbound: IPPermissions:-1(None-None)
  source: [sg-99c4befc-995635159130]

 SecurityGroup:sg3-MySecurityGroup2-1HGPN4UF57XN6 sg-4ee73729 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [192.168.1.12/32]

 SecurityGroup:AWS-AMI-SG sg-35568d51 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)
  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 SecurityGroup:launch-wizard-2 sg-932255f6 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

 SecurityGroup:launch-wizard-2 sg-932255f6 inbound:
 IPPermissions:tcp(443-443)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

 


 Here is the output i am looking for


 rule1 

Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 03:25 am, Laura Creighton wrote:

 Lots of the problems are with the free reader, adobe acrobat.  It is
 designed so that the user is kept very much in a straight-jacket which
 is a problem when your Mum needs, for instance, things to be in 36 point
 for her to be able to read things at all because she is nearly blind.

Surely Acrobat gives you the ability to set the scaling factor of the
displayed page? E.g. 25%, 50%, 100%, 200%, etc?



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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 07/21/2015 06:12 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:

 I don't want to close the TOC panel.  I want to collapse all the
 entries in the TOC tree widget _in_ the TOC panel.

 Ahh.  Atril does not do this either.  It can collapse the TOC to the
 first level items but not the tree itself.  I'm curious as to what good
 collapsing the whole tree down to one node would be.

Collapse everything, then open out just the one you want. More compact
display. And yes, it's a minor problem in evince, though not too bad
for my usage (I can close one sub-branch, just not the whole tree).

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[issue24651] Mock.assert* API is in user namespace

2015-07-21 Thread Kevin Benton

Kevin Benton added the comment:

What about other methods/properties like called, call_count, and reset_mock? It 
seems that they should be removed as well to be consistent with the reason for 
this change.

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[issue24680] typo in documentation, section extending python

2015-07-21 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset 91b738cfdc2f by Zachary Ware in branch '2.7':
Issue #24680: Remove random backslash.  Patch by cdz.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/91b738cfdc2f

New changeset cf0011b6ebbd by Zachary Ware in branch '3.4':
Issue #24680: Remove random backslash.  Patch by cdz.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/cf0011b6ebbd

New changeset d7229f26dbdb by Zachary Ware in branch '3.5':
Issue #24680: Merge with 3.4
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d7229f26dbdb

New changeset 96910e822266 by Zachary Ware in branch 'default':
Closes #24680: Merge with 3.5
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/96910e822266

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Re: convert output to list(and nested dictionary)

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:12 AM, max scalf oracle.bl...@gmail.com wrote:
 SecurityGroup:default sg-e1304484 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)  source: 
 [67.184.225.222/32]




 Here is the output i am looking for


 rule1 = [{

 'cidr': '67.184.225.222/32',

 'proto': 'tcp',

 'port': 80

 },{

So if I'm understanding you correctly, one line (from your previous
iteration) will become one dictionary, right?

In that case, start by figuring out how to parse that line and produce
that output. In the example I've quoted, it should be pretty easy (the
'rule' seems to have your proto and port, and your 'rule.grants' has
the cidr), but looking over your data, I see some snags. Firstly, some
of your port numbers are None-None or -1--1, and I'm not sure what
those mean. (My guess: None-None occurs only when proto is -1, and
-1--1 happens when proto is icmp, which doesn't use port numbers. But
you'd have to investigate that.) Also, your cidr might be a list,
rather than a single item. What do you do if it's empty, or if it has
multiple? Third, your ports are very obviously a range (1024-65535
comes up), so you'll need to handle that. And finally, some of those
rules look like things I would permit, and some look like things I'd
reject. You may need to look into the rule definitions to see what you
can find. But the first thing to try would be to get hold of one of
those rule objects and start doing some introspection; dir(rule) and
help(rule) would be where I'd start.

Good luck! This shouldn't be too hard; the data seems to be all there already.

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Re: Integers with leading zeroes

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
 Sometimes these numbers represent codeblocks of a fixed
 number of digits. Always writing those numbers with this
 number of digits helps being aware of this. It is also
 easier for when you need to know how many leading zero's
 such a number has.

 I'm not sure what you mean here. Python ints don't have a fixed number of
 digits.

Sometimes your numbers carry specific payloads or structures. A few examples:

Date: 20150722 [decimal]
Unix permissions: 10777 [octal]
MAC address: 0014a466fba9 [hex]

In the MAC address example, it doesn't make sense to elide the leading
zeroes. I can't currently think of a common, real-world example that
uses decimal and isn't gong to push itself to the full eight digits,
apart from Northern Territory postcodes with their silly 08nn pattern,
but I'm sure they exist.

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Re: convert output to list(and nested dictionary)

2015-07-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 07:12 am, max scalf wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 For Each SecurityGroup, how can i convert that into a List that in turn
 will have a dictionary of the cidr block, protocol type and the port...


Start with this:

def sg_to_list(sg):
return [rule_to_dict(r) for r in sg.rules]

def rule_to_dict(rule):
d = {} # expected {'cidr': '0.0.0.0/0', 'proto': 'tcp', 'port': 80}
d['cidr'] = rule.cidr
d['proto'] = rule.proto
d['port'] = rule.port
return d


and adjust until working.



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[issue24680] typo in documentation, section extending python

2015-07-21 Thread cdz

New submission from cdz:

In section 3. Building C and C++ Extensions with distutils there is 
unnecessary \ in the middle of the line. Seems to be bulk (re)formatting 
issue.

Simple patch fixing the issue is attached.

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[issue21750] mock_open data is visible only once for the life of the class

2015-07-21 Thread Robert Collins

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So the 1.1.4 behaviour matches that of a VFS most closely. But, see the earlier 
messages, it does do only and precisely because it breaks regular mock idioms. 
Thus I think we're better off with the new patch, which addresses the issue 
with reuse of the mocks in subclassed tests(with the patch decorator), as well 
as with repeated opens, while still preserving the basic structure and feel of 
'Mock'.

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[issue12067] Doc: remove errors about mixed-type comparisons.

2015-07-21 Thread Berker Peksag

Berker Peksag added the comment:

I think we can commit documentation and tests separately. I just did a quick 
review of the test changes and I will add some review comments later (sorry, 
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Address field [was: Integers with leading zeroes]

2015-07-21 Thread Jason Friedman
 Of course, most of the
 time, I advocate a single multi-line text field Address, and let
 people key them in free-form. No postcode field whatsoever.

I'm curious about that statement.
I could see accepting input as you describe above, but I'm thinking
you'd want to *store* a postcode field.
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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/21/2015 06:12 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
 
 I don't want to close the TOC panel.  I want to collapse all the
 entries in the TOC tree widget _in_ the TOC panel.

Ahh.  Atril does not do this either.  It can collapse the TOC to the
first level items but not the tree itself.  I'm curious as to what good
collapsing the whole tree down to one node would be.

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Re: Integers with leading zeroes

2015-07-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 11:10 am, Chris Angelico wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info
 wrote:
 Sometimes these numbers represent codeblocks of a fixed
 number of digits. Always writing those numbers with this
 number of digits helps being aware of this. It is also
 easier for when you need to know how many leading zero's
 such a number has.

 I'm not sure what you mean here. Python ints don't have a fixed number of
 digits.
 
 Sometimes your numbers carry specific payloads or structures. A few
 examples:
 
 Date: 20150722 [decimal]
 Unix permissions: 10777 [octal]
 MAC address: 0014a466fba9 [hex]

I don't see the relevance of any of those examples. Only the date is
kinda-sort in decimal, the others are in octal and hex and so need to be
written as octal or hex numbers:

perm = 0o10777  # not 25031 as the above will give
addr = 0x0014a466fba9  # the above will give a syntax error


The date example should be a string, not an integer.

today = 20151231
tomorrow = today + 1
assert tomorrow == 20160101  # fails

I guess you can have 0 as Unix permissions, there might even be a 0 MAC
address, but would you write them in decimal as  (etc.) when all the
other perms and addresses are written in oct or hex?

addresses = [
0x0014a466fba9, 
0x0014a00b3fb1, 
, 
0x003744a9012a, 
]


 In the MAC address example, it doesn't make sense to elide the leading
 zeroes. I can't currently think of a common, real-world example that
 uses decimal and isn't gong to push itself to the full eight digits,
 apart from Northern Territory postcodes with their silly 08nn pattern,
 but I'm sure they exist.

Postcodes, or zip codes, also should be written as strings, even if they
happen to be all digits.

I'm still looking for an example of where somebody would write the int zero
in decimal using more than one 0-digit. While I'm sure they are fascinating
in and of themselves, examples of numbers written as strings, in hex or
octal, non-zero numbers written without leading zeroes, or zero written
with only a single digit don't interest me :-)



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Re: Integers with leading zeroes

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 11:10 am, Chris Angelico wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info
 wrote:
 Sometimes these numbers represent codeblocks of a fixed
 number of digits. Always writing those numbers with this
 number of digits helps being aware of this. It is also
 easier for when you need to know how many leading zero's
 such a number has.

 I'm not sure what you mean here. Python ints don't have a fixed number of
 digits.

 Sometimes your numbers carry specific payloads or structures. A few
 examples:

 Date: 20150722 [decimal]
 Unix permissions: 10777 [octal]
 MAC address: 0014a466fba9 [hex]

 I don't see the relevance of any of those examples. Only the date is
 kinda-sort in decimal, the others are in octal and hex and so need to be
 written as octal or hex numbers:

 perm = 0o10777  # not 25031 as the above will give
 addr = 0x0014a466fba9  # the above will give a syntax error

Right, I'm just giving examples of structured numbers. I don't have a
good example of a decimal structured number, but there are good
examples in other bases, and the possibility is there for someone to
have one that makes sense in decimal.

 The date example should be a string, not an integer.

 today = 20151231
 tomorrow = today + 1
 assert tomorrow == 20160101  # fails

All that proves is that there are certain operations that don't work
on date-stored-as-integer. The same operations equally won't work on
date-stored-as-string. If you want date arithmetic, you MUST use a
proper date/time library; but if all you want is simple and efficient
comparisons, integers work fine. So do strings, but integers are
right-justified. If you imagine a situation in which it's not dates
with four digit years, but some other starting figure - maybe it's the
year in some arbitrary calendar on which today is the 6th of Cuspis in
the year 411 of the Common Reckoning. Those dates can go back before
year 100, so the date numbers would lose a digit compared to today's
4110206. Hence it's useful to be able to right-justify them.

Dates aren't a great example (because good date/time libraries do
exist), but they're more universally understood than domain-specific
examples.

 I guess you can have 0 as Unix permissions, there might even be a 0 MAC
 address, but would you write them in decimal as  (etc.) when all the
 other perms and addresses are written in oct or hex?

 addresses = [
 0x0014a466fba9,
 0x0014a00b3fb1,
 ,
 0x003744a9012a,
 ]

Right, so those aren't ideal examples either, because they're not decimal.

 Postcodes, or zip codes, also should be written as strings, even if they
 happen to be all digits.

Hmm, maybe. I'm on the fence about that one. Of course, most of the
time, I advocate a single multi-line text field Address, and let
people key them in free-form. No postcode field whatsoever.

 I'm still looking for an example of where somebody would write the int zero
 in decimal using more than one 0-digit. While I'm sure they are fascinating
 in and of themselves, examples of numbers written as strings, in hex or
 octal, non-zero numbers written without leading zeroes, or zero written
 with only a single digit don't interest me :-)

Frankly, I'm in broad agreement: using 000 to represent 0
isn't particularly useful, given that 0001 is an error. But since
C-like languages (and Py2) use the leading zero to mean octal, and
mathematics ignores the leading zero, there's no way to avoid
confusing people other than by having an instant error. There's
probably code out there that uses 000 to mean 0, but personally, I
wouldn't be against deprecating it.

One thing that's really REALLY annoying is running into something that
uses virtually the same syntax to mean something almost, but not
entirely, identical... and completely incompatible. If Py3 allowed
0009 to mean 9, we would have nightmares all over the place, even
without Py2/Py3 conversion. Unadorned octal still shows up in one
place in Py3, and that's string escapes:

 \33
'\x1b'
 b\33
b'\x1b'

I hope this *never* gets changed to decimal or hex. If it's considered
a problem, the only solution is to excise it altogether. Please do NOT
do what BIND9 did, and have \033 mean 33 decimal... it bugged me no
end when I tried to move some binary around between DNS and other
systems...

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Re: Integers with leading zeroes

2015-07-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 03:21 am, Antoon Pardon wrote:

 On 07/19/2015 07:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
 In Python 2, integer literals with leading zeroes are treated as octal,
 so 09 is a syntax error and 010 is 8.
 
 This is confusing to those not raised on C-style octal literals, so in
 Python 3 leading zeroes are prohibited in int literals. Octal is instead
 written using the prefix 0o, similar to hex 0x and binary 0b.
 
 Consequently Python 3 makes both 09 and 010 a syntax error.
 
 However there is one exception: zero itself is allowed any number of
 leading zeroes, so 0 is a legal way to write zero as a base-10 int
 literal.
 
 Does anyone use that (mis)feature?
 
 
 Yes. I like to sometime write numbers with leading zeros.

In Python 2, those numbers will be in octal:

nums = [, 0001, 0002, 0003, 
0004, 0005, 0006, 0007, 
# 0008 and 0009 are syntax errors
0010, ... ]


In Python 3, using leading zeroes is always a syntax error, unless all the
numbers are zero:

# Okay
nums = [, , , , ... ]

# Fails
nums = [, 0001, 0002, 0003, ...]


I'm not interested in the Python 2 case with octal numbers. Can you show an
example of how you would use this in Python 3? Or at least explain what
benefit you get from typing out a block of all zeroes by hand, instead of
(say) this?

nums = [0]*10


 Sometimes these numbers represent codeblocks of a fixed
 number of digits. Always writing those numbers with this
 number of digits helps being aware of this. It is also
 easier for when you need to know how many leading zero's
 such a number has.

I'm not sure what you mean here. Python ints don't have a fixed number of
digits.



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Re: convert output to list(and nested dictionary)

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Pablo Lucena plucen...@gmail.com wrote:
 str.split and re are a nice quick way to do it:

 def get_data(data):
 import re
 port_re = re.compile(r'(\w+)\((\S+-\S+)\)')
 cidr_re = re.compile(r'\[(.*?)\]')
 _, proto_port, cidr = data.rsplit(:, 2)
 port_match = port_re.search(proto_port)
 proto, port = port_match.group(1), port_match.group(2)
 port = port.split(-)[0]
 cidr_match = cidr_re.search(cidr)
 cidr = cidr_match.group(1)
 return dict(port=port, proto=proto, cidr=cidr)

The textual output is coming from his quick little Python loop. No
need to parse that when you can go to the underlying objects :)

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[issue24053] Define EXIT_SUCCESS and EXIT_FAILURE constants in sys

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Panter

Martin Panter added the comment:

FWIW I have wondered in the past why these constants were missing. I would be 
more likely to use them when checking an exit status than when setting one. I 
typically do “raise SystemExit()” or “raise SystemExit('Error message')”, which 
implicitly sets the status.

My preference would be to put EXIT_SUCCESS and EXIT_FAILURE in the “os” module, 
next to the existing EX_ codes. But I guess the “sys” module would also work.

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[issue24680] typo in documentation, section extending python

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Panter

Martin Panter added the comment:

Nice and obvious fix, looks like it also applies to Python 2.

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[issue24680] typo in documentation, section extending python

2015-07-21 Thread Zachary Ware

Zachary Ware added the comment:

Fixed! Thanks for the report and patch, cdz, and thanks for the triage, Martin.

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[issue24651] Mock.assert* API is in user namespace

2015-07-21 Thread Felipe

Felipe added the comment:

Not sure it's my place to comment here, but here are my 2 cents: I think 
Robert's proposal to have module functions is the only way to have a 
user-friendly and robust API, and it solves more than just the assert typo 
problem. (And yes, it would require moving the mock public API entirely to 
functions/classmethods).

To me, there's an underlying fragility in mock since the current API for `Mock` 
is not cleanly separated from the mocked API. This issue creates the problem of 
the  assert typos, and also creates problems with name conflicts (I've always 
thought the `.call_count` attribute was particularly likely to be clobbered).

The only bullet-proof way I can think of to ensure such a conflict does not 
take place is to separate the namespaces altogether, by moving the data out of 
the Mock object and into a global structure. E.g., `mock.Mock` could have a 
class attribute (say `mock.Mock.call_log`) tracking all of the calls to all 
mocks, and there could be a series of classmethods to query this store. 
Unfortunately, this design goes seriously against the grain of OOP, but we're 
essentially back to Robert's proposal.

A more OOP-friendly approach sacrifices the '100% clash-proof guarantee' and 
only provides a 'highly unlikely to clash' guarantee instead: Mangle the mock 
API namespace. Mock currently does this for its internal attributes (e.g., 
`._mock_parent`) but not for its public API (e.g., `.assert_called_once_with`). 
To remain user-friendly, of course we wouldn't require users to mangle names by 
hand, but would provide convenience functions to access these mangled 
attributes/methods, which puts us right back at Robert's proposal.

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Re: Interactive, test-driven coding challenges (algorithms and data structures)

2015-07-21 Thread Orochi
On Monday, 13 July 2015 16:50:54 UTC+5:30, donne@gmail.com  wrote:
 Repo:
 https://github.com/donnemartin/interactive-coding-challenges
 
 Shortlink:
 https://bit.ly/git-code 
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I created a number of interactive, test-driven coding challenges. I will 
 continue to add to the repo on a regular basis. I'm hoping you find it useful 
 as a fun, hands-on way to learn or to sharpen your skills on algorithms and 
 data structures, while helping yourself prep for coding interviews and coding 
 challenges.
 
 Let me know if you have any questions or comments. Contributions are welcome!
 
 -Donne

wow! Cool the challenges are awesome. will try them to improve my Algorithm and 
Data Structures Skills.
Just a suggestion. why don't you set Python Algorithm and Data Structures 
challenges for HackerRank.com or HackerEarth.com
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[issue24678] raiseExceptions typo fix in logging tests

2015-07-21 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

I would use test.support.swapattr().

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[issue21750] mock_open data is visible only once for the life of the class

2015-07-21 Thread Robert Collins

Robert Collins added the comment:

Fixup patch. I've tested this with the reported failures and they all work.

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[issue24667] OrderedDict.popitem()/__str__() raises KeyError

2015-07-21 Thread Fabian

Fabian added the comment:

Yes see the tests/README.rst. And afaik do you only need to have requests and 
six installed.

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[issue24651] Mock.assert* API is in user namespace

2015-07-21 Thread Patrick Westerhoff

Changes by Patrick Westerhoff patrickwesterh...@gmail.com:


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[issue24678] raiseExceptions typo fix in logging tests

2015-07-21 Thread Jacek Kołodziej

New submission from Jacek Kołodziej:

The typo in test_logging was discovered while working on #23883: in two tests 
the addCleanup call reverts the raiseEx*ec*ptions value (instead of 
raiseExceptions) in logging module and apparently that didn't manifest itself 
in any way.

Patch attached.

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[issue21750] mock_open data is visible only once for the life of the class

2015-07-21 Thread Robert Collins

Robert Collins added the comment:

But - its worth discussing. Perhaps we should roll this all back, and just say 
'use a vfs layer for tests like this'. The problem in doing that, is that the
@patch
def test_foo...

use case is actually pretty common IME, and this conflicts with the 
@patch
...
A = open()
B = open()
A.read()
B.read()

case where the reset in the open() side effect will cause B.read to end up 
returning ''.

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[issue24613] array.fromstring Use After Free

2015-07-21 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

Minimal example:

import array
a = array.array(B)
a.fromstring(b'x'*0x1)
a.fromstring(a)
a.fromstring(a)

In 3.x it doesn't work. An exception is raised:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File stdin, line 1, in module
BufferError: cannot resize an array that is exporting buffers

I think it would be better to raise an exception in 2.7 too.

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[issue24678] raiseExceptions typo fix in logging tests

2015-07-21 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

LGTM.

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[issue24678] raiseExceptions typo fix in logging tests

2015-07-21 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 20e2b980bb87 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '3.4':
Issue #24678: Fixed raiseExceptions typo in logging tests.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/20e2b980bb87

New changeset 7a54e400155f by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '3.5':
Issue #24678: Fixed raiseExceptions typo in logging tests.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/7a54e400155f

New changeset 83b45ea19d00 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch 'default':
Issue #24678: Fixed raiseExceptions typo in logging tests.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/83b45ea19d00

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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 21/07/2015 18:25, Laura Creighton wrote:

In a message of Wed, 22 Jul 2015 00:48:06 +1000, Chris Angelico writes:

Actually, maybe don't use PDF at all. I keep having to help my Mum
deal with stupid problems with PDF documents she gets, and I'm never
sure whether the fault is with the PDF creation software, the human
operating said software, or limitations in the file format itself.

ChrisA


Lots of the problems are with the free reader, adobe acrobat.  It is
designed so that the user is kept very much in a straight-jacket which
is a problem when your Mum needs, for instance, things to be in 36 point
for her to be able to read things at all because she is nearly blind.

Laura



All I know is that I read a review about Foxit Reader 
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/ and I've never looked 
back.


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Re: Integers with leading zeroes

2015-07-21 Thread sohcahtoa82
On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 11:07:43 AM UTC-7, Emile van Sebille wrote:
 On 7/21/2015 10:58 AM, sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  IMO, leading zeroes just looks like visual noise, and if I wanted to align 
  numbers, I'd just use spaces.
 
 
 Aligning numbers using spaces doesn't always align -- using zeros does.
 
 Emile

You've got me confused.  They should align just fine if you're using a 
fixed-width font.

If you're not using a fixed-width font in your programming, then I don't know 
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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-07-21, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:

 Lots of the problems are with the free reader, adobe acrobat.  It is
 designed so that the user is kept very much in a straight-jacket which
 is a problem when your Mum needs, for instance, things to be in 36 point
 for her to be able to read things at all because she is nearly blind.

That's not a problem with acrobat. That's not even a problem with
PDF itself, it's the whole _intent_ of PDF: to specify _exactly_ what
the document should look like and not allow the reader to muck up the
formatting, fonts, colors, alignment, page size, etc.  It's supposed
to mimic as closely as possible ink on paper: PDF is for when you want
the document to look exactly like you want it to look everwhere and
for everybody.

If you want the reader to be able to change the layout, fonts/sizes,
colors, alignments, page dimensions, etc, then PDF is just plain the
wrong format.  Complaining about a PDF reader not being able to change
the appearance of PDF documents is like complaining that glue is
sticky, oil is slippery, and knives have sharp edges.

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[issue24678] raiseExceptions typo fix in logging tests

2015-07-21 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

Thank you for your contribution Jacek.

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[issue24667] OrderedDict.popitem()/__str__() raises KeyError

2015-07-21 Thread Eric Snow

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Thanks for the extra info.  I'm going to see if I can reproduce the issue by 
running the pywikibot test suite locally.  What's the best way to set that up?  
Are there instructions somewhere?

As to the C implementation, it was first released (as a special exception) in 
3.5b2.

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[issue21750] mock_open data is visible only once for the life of the class

2015-07-21 Thread Paul Koning

Paul Koning added the comment:

Sure, you can use a vfs.  That's true for a lot of mock functions; the benefit 
of mock, including mock_open, is that it provides an easier and better packaged 
way.  The behavior expected is be like a file.  So in that last example, if 
you open it twice, you've got two views of the same file data, independent of 
each other, and reads of each file will see that data in full.  A.read() has no 
effect on B.read().

I don't think I understand what the latest discussion/issue is all about.

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[issue24653] Mock.assert_has_calls([]) is surprising for users

2015-07-21 Thread Antti Haapala

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Re: Integers with leading zeroes

2015-07-21 Thread sohcahtoa82
On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 11:38:53 AM UTC-7, sohca...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 11:07:43 AM UTC-7, Emile van Sebille wrote:
  On 7/21/2015 10:58 AM, sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   IMO, leading zeroes just looks like visual noise, and if I wanted to 
   align numbers, I'd just use spaces.
  
  
  Aligning numbers using spaces doesn't always align -- using zeros does.
  
  Emile
 
 You've got me confused.  They should align just fine if you're using a 
 fixed-width font.
 
 If you're not using a fixed-width font in your programming, then I don't know 
 what to say to you.

I should probably state that I may use leading zeroes when using hexadecimal 
numbers.  For example, I might write 0x000ABCDE, rather than 0xABCDE, but 
that's only if I'm using a lot of 32-bit values.  If I only care about a single 
byte, I will use 0x01, for example.

But for base-10, I would never use leading zeroes.
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[issue24678] raiseExceptions typo fix in logging tests

2015-07-21 Thread Jacek Kołodziej

Jacek Kołodziej added the comment:

s/swapattr/swap_attr/g :) Done.

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[issue14373] C implementation of functools.lru_cache

2015-07-21 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

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[issue24651] Mock.assert* API is in user namespace

2015-07-21 Thread Antti Haapala

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Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?

2015-07-21 Thread breamoreboy
On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 4:04:30 AM UTC+1, Rick Johnson wrote:
 On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 9:17:11 PM UTC-5, Rustom Mody wrote:
 
 
  List of python committers:
  -
   11081 Guido van Rossum
  [snip: long list]
 
 Thanks for posting this list of names. I had put in a pyFOIA
 request for this data a few years ago, but to my surprise, was
 flat out denied. I'm not sure how exhaustive this list may be,
 but publicly displaying the commit hierarchy within the Python
 community is very import for those who may want to get involved.
 
 [Talking to Mark Lawrence, Rustom said:]
  So... May I humbly ask where are your precious commits??
 
 Thanks for putting Mark in his place. He has been brow
 beating folks on this list (myself included) for years, and
 i'll bet he now feels as tiny as D'Aprano did -- when GvR
 scolded him for disrespecting a Noob on Python-ideas.
 

Read on, oh great stupid one.

   Yeah, i was watching! 
 
   I'M *ALWAYS* WATCHING!
 
   ಠ_ಠ
 
 Now that Mark's lack of commit cred has been exposed, we can
 safely ignore his hollow and hypocritical bullying. And now
 that he has been de-fanged, he will be forced to seek employment
 elsewhere. Hmm, my suggestion is that he market himself as an
 on-call peanut butter removal service. A venture that will
 no doubt be successful, seeing that he has two heads up on
 his competition!

Ever heard the saying engage brain before putting mouth into gear?  It was 
actually Rustom who posted inaccurate data as only core-devs have commit 
rights.  It would appear that your knowledge of the current development process 
is as good as your knowledge of European geography.  I would say enjoy your 
future in the peanut butter removal service but it is quite clear that you 
haven't the skills needed to make it happen.  In the mean time I'll quite 
happily carry on contributing to the Python community as best I can.

Oh, and while I think about it, you'd better put that shovel down, or the hole 
will only get deeper.

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Re: Python Schduling

2015-07-21 Thread Irmen de Jong
On 21-7-2015 19:52, Madduri Anil kumar wrote:
 Hello Experts,
 
 I am new to Python Programming.I have to work on Python.
 I have a requirement to scheduling the script for every one hour.
 could you please let me know which packages will be more helpful for 
 Scheduling.
 if you post any samples it would be more helpful.
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 Anilkumar.M.
 

Unless you have specific reasons to do this from within Python itself, I advise 
to use
your operating system's task scheduler instead. Let it invoke the Python 
program on the
desired interval. So, make a cron job for unixes or configure the task 
scheduler on Windows.

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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-07-21, Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com wrote:
 On 7/21/2015 1:32 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:

 But, it apears foxit reader is Windows-only so it's a moot point for
 Linux/Unix/Mac users.

 I've been happy with https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince on linux.

I'm trying to switch from acroread to evince, bit it has a few serious
usability problems for me:

 1) You can't copy/paste text from evince _at_all_.  At least it works
right most of the time with acroread.  I really like being able
paste example commands or bits of code or a sentance or three from
PDF docs into a shell or editor window.  Pasting tables is a bit
more work, but it can at least be done with acroread.

 2) You can't print the current view.  I find that invaluable for
printing portions of documents (e.g. I want just a section of a C
size schematic printed on letter sized paper, or just one table
table from a manual sized to fill a 8.5x11 page).  If it did have
'print view' then lack of a marquee zoom would become another
inconvenience.

 3) There's no way to collapse-all in the TOC panel.  When I open a
1200 page document with 30 sections and several hundred sections
and subsections, I don't want to see all of them all of the time.
Closing them one at a time by hand is pretty tedious.

I find that about 20-30% of the time I start up evince, I end up
closing it and re-opening the document in acroread.

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[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Steve Dower

Steve Dower added the comment:

Afraid it's not possible - that error comes from the loader, so we haven't had 
a chance to run anything yet.

One option would be to put some sort of readme into the zip, but that seems to 
be optimising for the wrong behavior. If I were legitimately embedding this 
from the zip file, that would be something I'd want to remove from my app 
distribution. But maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal - really need to get 
some data on people actually using this vs. getting it incorrectly.

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[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall

Cody Piersall added the comment:

Agreed. An ounce of data is worth a pound of theory as the saying goes.

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[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall

New submission from Cody Piersall:

Whenever I tried to run the embeddable zip file from 
https://www.python.org/downloads/windows/ for Python 3.5.0b3, the program 
crashes with the message

 The program can't start because api-ms-win-crt-math-l1-1-0.dll is missing 
 from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.

I suspect that this happens because I don't have any version of Visual Studio 
on my computer, but I'm not sure what causes it.  It happens with both the 
32-bit and 64-bit zip file.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Download the zip file 
https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.5.0/python-3.5.0b3-embed-win32.zip
2. Extract the contents
3. Click on the Python executable
4. Do not have Visual Studio installed on your computer

I am running Windows 7 Enterprise, 64-bit
I have attached a screenshot of the error message.

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[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray added the comment:

You shouldn't need visual studio to install python using the installer.

What verison of windows are you using?

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[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray added the comment:

Woops, I see you already said and I missed it.  We'll have to wait for Steve to 
take a look.

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Python Schduling

2015-07-21 Thread Madduri Anil kumar
Hello Experts,

I am new to Python Programming.I have to work on Python.
I have a requirement to scheduling the script for every one hour.
could you please let me know which packages will be more helpful for Scheduling.
if you post any samples it would be more helpful.

Thanks  Regards,
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[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Steve Dower

Steve Dower added the comment:

That's exactly the use case, and I might borrow your summary for the docs 
that I'll eventually write for it because you've summed it up really well.

My biggest worry right now is that people will treat it as a portable install 
and run into exactly the issue that you hit. Putting embed in the name is my 
best idea for preventing that (next idea is removing the .exe files, but that 
would hurt legitimate uses).

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[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall

Cody Piersall added the comment:

Yeah, having embeddable in the name is a good hint, I think.  It was almost 
enough for me to not even try downloading it.

Is it possible / even worth the time to give a more helpful error message?  I'm 
not sure that it's possible, based on when the dll is laoded, or if it were 
possible whether it's worth doing.  It might require more code than it's worth 
to maintain.  You'd have to...

1. In the main function in C, check whether you're running the embedded Python 
(probably with an #ifdef)
2. If so, check that the required CRT is found (which probably requires 
_another_ #ifdef for 32/64 bit, and maybe Python version)
3. If it isn't found, create a message box using the Windows API explaining the 
problem.  Which may require including the GUI libraries into the Python 
executable, and I don't think those are small things.

I'm not sure if that is either possible or desirable, though.  Or if what I 
explained would even work; I'm not sure if the DLLs are loaded right when the 
executable starts, or only as needed whenever functions from the DLLs are 
called.  And I have _no_ idea how to check for the presence of the CRT.

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Re: Is there a way to install ALL Python packages?

2015-07-21 Thread tjohnson

On 7/21/2015 11:19 AM, ryguy7272 wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 10:57:47 PM UTC-4, ryguy7272 wrote:

I'd like to install ALL Python packages on my machine.  Even if it takes up 
4-5GB, or more, I'd like to get everything, and then use it when I need it.  
Now, I'd like to import packages, like numpy and pandas, but nothing will 
install.  I figure, if I can just install everything, I can simply use it when 
I need it, and if I don't need it, then I just won't use it.

I know R offers this as an option.  I figure Python must allow it too.

Any idea  how to grab everything?

Thanks all.


Ok, this makes sense.  Thanks for the insight everyone!!

I forgot to mention in my previous post that there are Python bundles 
like Anaconda and Enthought available, which come with numerous packages 
preinstalled. You may want to check them out.


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[issue21750] mock_open data is visible only once for the life of the class

2015-07-21 Thread Robert Collins

Robert Collins added the comment:

@pkoning in Python3.3 == mock 1.0.1, 
 m = mock_open(read_data='f')
 m().read()
'f'
 m().read()
'f'
 x = m()
 x.read()
'f'
 x.read()
'f'
 x = m()
 y = m()
 x.read()
'f'
 y.read()
'f'

in 3.4 == mock 1.1.{0,1,2,3}, and 1.2.0
 m = mock_open(read_data='f')
 m().read()
'f'
 m().read()
''
 x = m()
 x.read()
''
 x.read()
''
 x = m()
 y = m()
 x.read()
'f'
 y.read()
''

Right now, in 3.5==mock 1.1.4
 m = mock_open(read_data='f')
 m().read()
'f'
 m().read()
'f'
 x = m()
 x.read()
'f'
 x.read()
''
 x = m()
 y = m()
 x.read()
'f'
 y.read()
'f'


With the patch I just attached:
 m = mock_open(read_data='f')
 m().read()
'f'
 m().read()
'f'
 x = m()
 x.read()
'f'
 x.read()
''
 x = m()
 y = m()
 x.read()
'f'
 y.read()
''

All different points in the solution space :)
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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 21/07/2015 21:32, Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2015-07-21, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

On 21/07/2015 18:25, Laura Creighton wrote:


Lots of the problems are with the free reader, adobe acrobat.  It is
designed so that the user is kept very much in a straight-jacket which
is a problem when your Mum needs, for instance, things to be in 36 point
for her to be able to read things at all because she is nearly blind.



All I know is that I read a review about Foxit Reader
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/ and I've never
looked back.


I'd have serious doubts about anybody who brags that their product has
a Microsoft Offic 2013 Style Ribbon Toolbar. ;)

But, it apears foxit reader is Windows-only so it's a moot point for
Linux/Unix/Mac users.



Who cares provided you can get a VMS version :)

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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Emile van Sebille

On 7/21/2015 1:32 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:


But, it apears foxit reader is Windows-only so it's a moot point for
Linux/Unix/Mac users.



I've been happy with https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince on linux.

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[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall

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convert output to list(and nested dictionary)

2015-07-21 Thread max scalf
Hello all,

For Each SecurityGroup, how can i convert that into a List that in turn
will have a dictionary of the cidr block, protocol type and the port...so
from output below, the SecurityGroup called default had 2
rules...allowing TCP port from 80 and 5500 to the source IP and then
SecurityGroup called Pub_HDP_SG had only one rule...so on and so
forthhere is the output that i am trying to get out in the form of a
list

what I am planning to do is, take the list(and nested dictionary) and pass
that to a function that will in turn spitout a cloudformation template
using troposphere (something like 
http://imil.net/wp/2015/06/04/rock-your-cloudformation-with-troposphere-and-boto/
)


For Better Readablity (http://pastebin.com/rT6Aswwz)

import boto.ec2

sgs = boto.ec2.connect_to_region('us-east-1').get_all_security_groups()

for sg in sgs:

for rule in sg.rules:

print sg, sg.id, inbound:, rule,  source:, rule.grants


SecurityGroup:default sg-e1304484 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)
 source: [67.184.225.222/32]

SecurityGroup:default sg-e1304484 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(5500-5500)
 source: [67.184.225.222/32]

SecurityGroup:Pub_HDP_SG sg-e632d982 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)
 source: [0.0.0.0/0]

SecurityGroup:sg3-MySecurityGroup-LB0QF9UQAOEF sg-4fe73728 inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

SecurityGroup:sg3-MySecurityGroup-LB0QF9UQAOEF sg-4fe73728 inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

SecurityGroup:RDP Rule - open everyone  sg-42d58d27 inbound:
IPPermissions:-1(None-None)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

SecurityGroup:us-east-open-all sg-97ffa7f2 inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

SecurityGroup:us-east-open-all sg-97ffa7f2 inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(53-53)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
IPPermissions:-1(None-None)  source: [sg-e632d982-995635159130]

SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [67.184.225.222/32]

SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(1024-65535)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(80-80)  source: [24.12.30.198/32]

SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
IPPermissions:udp(138-138)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
IPPermissions:udp(53-53)  source: [24.12.30.198/32]

SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(30015-30015)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]

SecurityGroup:wordpress-app-SG sg-99c4befc inbound:
IPPermissions:icmp(-1--1)  source: [10.0.20.100/32]

SecurityGroup:default sg-c65a20a3 inbound: IPPermissions:-1(None-None)
 source: [sg-c65a20a3-995635159130]

SecurityGroup:default sg-c65a20a3 inbound: IPPermissions:-1(None-None)
 source: [sg-99c4befc-995635159130]

SecurityGroup:sg3-MySecurityGroup2-1HGPN4UF57XN6 sg-4ee73729 inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)  source: [192.168.1.12/32]

SecurityGroup:AWS-AMI-SG sg-35568d51 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)
 source: [0.0.0.0/0]

SecurityGroup:launch-wizard-2 sg-932255f6 inbound: IPPermissions:tcp(22-22)
 source: [10.0.20.100/32]

SecurityGroup:launch-wizard-2 sg-932255f6 inbound:
IPPermissions:tcp(443-443)  source: [0.0.0.0/0]




Here is the output i am looking for


rule1 = [{

'cidr': '67.184.225.222/32',

'proto': 'tcp',

'port': 80

},{

'cidr': '67.184.225.222/32',

'proto': 'tcp',

'port': 5500

}]


rule2 = [{

'cidr': '[0.0.0.0/0',

'proto': 'tcp',

'port': 80

}]


rule3 = [{

'cidr': '0.0.0.0/0',

'proto': 'tcp',

'port': 22

},{

'cidr': '0.0.0.0/0',

'proto': 'tcp',

'port': 80

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Re: Can I copy/paste Python code?

2015-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-07-21, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 On 21/07/2015 18:25, Laura Creighton wrote:

 Lots of the problems are with the free reader, adobe acrobat.  It is
 designed so that the user is kept very much in a straight-jacket which
 is a problem when your Mum needs, for instance, things to be in 36 point
 for her to be able to read things at all because she is nearly blind.

 All I know is that I read a review about Foxit Reader 
 https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/ and I've never
 looked back.

I'd have serious doubts about anybody who brags that their product has
a Microsoft Offic 2013 Style Ribbon Toolbar. ;)

But, it apears foxit reader is Windows-only so it's a moot point for
Linux/Unix/Mac users.

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[issue23287] ctypes.util.find_library needlessly call crle on Solaris

2015-07-21 Thread John Beck

John Beck added the comment:

First, there are two related but somewhat separate issues here.

Regarding the patches attached to http://bugs.python.org/issue20664
they seem fine.  In theory, they should not be needed, as though it
is true that dump(1) moved from /usr/ccs/bin to /usr/bin in Solaris
11, /usr/ccs/bin still exists as a sym-link to /usr/bin.  But the
patches are written in a cautious manner, so the Right Thing [tm]
should happen in all circumstances.

Regarding my assertion that 'the default library path is a constant
on Solaris: /lib/64:/usr/lib/64 in 64-bit mode and /lib:/usr/lib
in 32-bit mode', I stand by that but will clarify what I meant by
default.  What I meant was this is what the system provides, though
users may customize as needed.

I hope that helps.  If not, I'm happy to continue the conversation.

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[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall

Cody Piersall added the comment:

Ah! That makes sense. I still think the embeddable Python could be useful, but 
I don't actually have a vested interest in it at the moment.  Mostly I feel 
like it would be useful if Python is an implementation detail of an 
application, and you want to make sure that the user of your application 
doesn't mess up the Python installation.

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[issue23574] datetime: support leap seconds

2015-07-21 Thread dlroo

dlroo added the comment:

If you are using mx.DateTime make certain you do not use the .strftime method.  
If you use .strftime method and have a 60th second in your DateTime object it 
will crash python with no error message.  This occurs because the .strftime 
method is fully inherited from Python's datetime.datetime.

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[issue24485] Function source inspection fails on closures

2015-07-21 Thread Meador Inge

Meador Inge added the comment:

Will do.  Thanks for the review.

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