ActivePython 3.1.1.2 vs Python 3.1.1 for OSX?
I am just curious which I should use. I am going to start learning Python soon. Are they comparable and I just do a eenie meenie minie moe? Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Types, Cython, program readability
On Mar 16, 5:48 pm, Jeff Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Unlike Perl or Tcl, Python is not just a scripting language with a set of ad-hoc extensions. There are still issues, and Python probably will never be a general-purpose replacement for system-native language compilers, but it does enable a smooth ramp from just a user, through a user who does some scripting, to application developer. Danger! My crap-o-meter went to 100%! You really need to explain what you mean better here. What enables Python to give you a smooth ramp? Inquiring minds want to know.I am sure there are a whole lotta programmers in the Perl and Tcl camps that would like to know what you mean as well. I await your enlightenment. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Pycon disappointment
On Mar 16, 12:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 16, 6:10 am, Bruce Eckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a lot of people have been caught up in the idea that we need to commercialize Python, and ride some kind of wave of publicity the way that Java and C# and Rails seem to have done. This coming from someone who caught the Java wave and rode it for a decade. Doesn't that make him better to see the problems with it? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
New Tk look (aka Ttk or Tile widgets)
Do I have to install something extra to use the new look? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Tk look (aka Ttk or Tile widgets)
On Jan 10, 9:08 am, Guilherme Polo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/10, Robert Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do I have to install something extra to use the new look? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Tk 8.5 -- -- Guilherme H. Polo Goncalves Is that it? I have Tcl and Tk 8.5 installed. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ISO Python example projects (like in Perl Cookbook)
On Jan 10, 11:13 am, kj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for example implementations of small projects in Python, similar to the ones given at the end of most chapters of The Perl Cookbook (2nd edition, isbn: 0596003137). (Unfortunately, the otherwise excellent Python Cookbook (2nd edition, isbn: 0596007973), by the same publisher (O'Reilly), does not have this great feature.) The subchapters devoted to these small projects (which are called Programs in the book), each consists of a description of the task, a discussion of the relevant design considerations, and one or more illustrative implementations. As such, these programs are larger and more complex than the typical recipe in the book, but are still short enough to be read and understood in a few minutes. I find the study of such small programs invaluable when learning a new language. Does anyone know of a source of similar material for Python? TIA! kynn -- NOTE: In my address everything before the first period is backwards; and the last period, and everything after it, should be discarded. http://pleac.sourceforge.net/pleac_python/index.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spaces and tabs messing up code
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my friend uses vim and i use xemacs so our shared python code is a mix of tabs and spaces and it is hard for him to edit it in vim any idea on how to make it clean convert it all to 4 spaces? Thanks :set ts=4 :retab! :h retab -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: a simple tcp server sample
On Nov 7, 1:54 pm, Tzury Bar Yochay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, the following sample (from docs.python.org) is a server that can actually serve only single client at a time. In my case I need a simple server that can serve more than one client. I couldn't find an example on how to do that and be glad to get a hint. Thanks in advance import socket HOST = '127.0.0.1' # Symbolic name meaning the local host PORT = 50007# Arbitrary non-privileged port s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM) s.bind((HOST, PORT)) s.listen(1) conn, addr = s.accept() print 'Connected by', addr while 1: data = conn.recv(1024) if not data: break conn.send(data) conn.close() POE -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
try/except with multiple files
Is it good practice to do something like:
try:
f1 = file('file1')
f2 = file('file2')
except:
# catch the exception
Or do you do a try/except for each open?
Robert
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Re: try/except with multiple files
On Jun 21, 3:11 pm, Matimus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends, what are you going to do if there is an exception? If you are just going to exit the program, then that works fine. If you are going to just skip that file, then the above wont work. If you are going to return to some other state in your program, but abort the file opening, you might want to close any files that were opened. The closing can be taken care if in the except block, but you will have to know which ones opened successfully. In general I would do something like this for multiple files: [code] filenames = [fname1,fname2,fname3] for fn in filenames: try: f = open(fn) except IOError: # handle exception #do something with f [/code] But, that might not work for you if the files aren't homogeneous (each have similar contents). If the files have distinctly different purposes, I would just wrap them each in their own try/except block. I rambled a bit there, but I hope it helps. Matt Helps a bunch...thank you very much. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX
On Mar 24, 11:53 pm, js [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only way you can do is rermove python2.4.4's files manually. I suggest you to use MacPorts or Fink. With MacPort, you can uninstall python2.4 by doing $ port uninstall python24 And Installation is $ port install python25 I try to like MacPorts but sometimes they don't do dependecies very well. For instance, I have a newer version of Ruby installed and I wanted to update a module through MP and it lists Perl5.8 as a dependency and tries to install it. On Tiger, Perl is already at 5.8 so what the hey! It isn't the first time I have been hit with that either. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX
On Mar 25, 7:08 am, has [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Mar, 18:30, Robert Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to upgrade to 2.5 but I don't see any unistall instructions anywhere. To repeat what others have said: don't uninstall existing Python.framework builds. Frameworks support multiple versions quite happily, and removing them is more hassle than it's worth. Just install the official framework build from python.org (http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5/python-2.5-macosx.dmg), which should also update your shell profiles as necessary. HTH has Thanks... Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX
I want to upgrade to 2.5 but I don't see any unistall instructions anywhere. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX
On Mar 24, 2:09 pm, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Mar 2007 10:30:28 -0700, Robert Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to upgrade to 2.5 but I don't see any unistall instructions anywhere. You're not required to remove the old version before installing the new version. Just install the new version somewhere like /usr/local and put /usr/local/bin ahead of your other paths. -- Greg Donaldhttp://destiney.com/ That is exactly what I did. I don't touch the Apple supplied version. Now I want to put that latest Python on. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX
On Mar 24, 2:06 pm, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Hicks schrieb: I want to upgrade to 2.5 but I don't see any unistall instructions anywhere. Don't do it. OSX uses the shipped version for its own purposes, and you'll break things if you uninstall it. Diez No, the OSX version is like 2.3 something. I installed the 2.4.4 version in /usr/local bypassing the Apple stuff. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SQLObject 0.8.0b2
Where is Oracle support? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Beginners Tutorial in PDF Format?
W. Watson wrote: I'd like to print a tutorial in one fell swoop, but it seems most on the various sites are page by page embedded descriptions in the page. Any available as a pdf? Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Two laws Newton and Einstein didn't discover: 1. Time is money. 2. Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value. -- Web Page: home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews http://docs.python.org/download.html http://www.diveintopython.org/ HTH Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: *POLL* How many sheeple believe in the 911 fairy tale and willing to accept an Orwellian doublespeak and enslavement world ?
Please, none of the real facts points to anything else except what actually happened. Two planes hit two towers and they came down. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: *POLL* How many sheeple believe in the 911 fairy tale and willingto accept an Orwellian doublespeak and enslavement world ?
snip Regards, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 541-302-1107 We who cut mere stones must always be envisioning cathedrals. -Quarry worker's creed Sure, but did you actually post your phone number on USENET? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python book, new edition?
I would get Core Python Programming by Wesley Chun. It covers just about everything under the sun and includes version 2.5. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Book recommendations
On Dec 6, 7:09 am, west [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone recommend a Python book for a newbie and perhaps you have a used one for sale? Thank you. Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional by Magnus Lie Hetland Core Python Programming (2nd Edition) by Wesley Chun There are plenty of Free online ones as well. HTH Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SQLObject release 0.7.2
Oracle? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OT: What's up with the starship?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T. Bryan wrote: Thomas Heller wrote: I cannot connect to starship.python.net: neither http, nor can I login interactively with ssl (and the host key seems to have changed as well). Does anyone know more? starship.python.net was compromised. It looked like a rootkit may have been installed. The volunteer admins are in the process of reinstalling the OS and rebuilding the system. That process will probably take a few days at least. Does anyone know more? What about the integrity of the python packages hosted there? When was the site compromised? I just installed the python 2.5 pywin module last week. Should I be concerned? Is this related to the Python security problem recently announced? Did you even read about the vulnerability? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?
Giovanni Bajo wrote: Paul Rubin wrote: You fail to recognize that Python is *already* using a non-free software for bug tracking, as do thousands of other projects. I don't think that reflects an explicit decision. SF started out as free software and the software became nonfree after people were already using it. Moreover, this looked like a very good chance to have this nuisance sorted out. Too bad some people don't value free software enough. Nuisance? I never heard a peep from anyone until this thread on c.l.p.! This is just a rediculous thing to be arguing over, really it is. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?
Steve Holden wrote: snip Perhaps what I *should* have written was Sadly *many* people spend too much time bitching and moaning about those that roll their sleeves up, and not enough rolling their own sleeves up and pitching in. Sniping from the sidelines is far easier than hard work towards a goal. Hey, that is how this whole thread started! Good observation. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?
Giovanni Bajo wrote: snip You might also be understimating how negative could be the reaction from the open-source community to such a move. -- Giovanni Bajo That is simply rediculous. Step away from the kool-aid. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?
Giovanni Bajo wrote: Hello, I just read this mail by Brett Cannon: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-October/069139.html where the PSF infrastracture committee, after weeks of evaluation, recommends using a non open source tracker (called JIRA - never heard before of course) for Python itself. Does this smell Bitkeeper fiasco to anyone else than me? -- Giovanni Bajo No. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The Python world tries to be polite [formerly offensive to another language]
Steve Holden wrote: Istvan Albert wrote: [...] ps. as for the title of this post, it is ironic that you are insulting another community while asking for no insults Perhaps so, but none the less comp.lang.perl has a demonstrable history of newbie-flaming. Don't know what it's like now, as it's years since I read that group, but they used to just love the smell of crisply-toasted newbie in the morning ;-) Funny you mention that...there was a Perl talk recently and one of the slides said Stop being fu***ing mean to newbies!. I ask the author of the talk and he said he didn't actually have to read the slide but it was effective non-the-less. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it means. Where have you read that? wildemar I don't mean to start a flame war about this but here are some reference of people, who like me, don't like the current python doc: http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/python_doc.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2005-May/280634.html \ Please don't use Xah Lee as an example...please. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project
Christoph Haas wrote: On Saturday 16 September 2006 19:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I second that the Python documentation is lacking. There is no software that is adequately documented anyway. Show me a man page of a Perl module and it takes me minutes to use it. I would say that Perl module documentation is really good. Most of them have plenty examples on how to use the module itself. That said...the Python docs are open source. Just start going through them and adding examples. It shouldn't be too hard and will benefit everyone who use them. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Are Python's reserved words reserved in places they dont need to be?
metaperl wrote: Istvan Albert wrote: metaperl wrote: -- python -i class = algebra File stdin, line 1 class = algebra ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax Designing a syntax to avoid all possible newbie errors is impractical because as soon as you are finished with one iteration the new newbies will start making different kinds of errors... You are missing the point: the point is that the above could be considered correct if the rules of Python were that an assignment statement takes IDENTIFIER '=' LVALUE Also class IDENTIFIER COLON could also be considered correct. Yes it could but it isn't and isn't likely to be. Simply do not use reserved words. That rule is hardly limited to Python. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OO on python real life tutorial?
filippo wrote: Claudio Grondi ha scritto: (megasnip) I caught your point of view. I start reading a book on wxpython to understand if it can help to solve my problems. At the same time I will port my program to Python/Tk in order to have a faster first beta release. Thanks for your explanation. Filippo Have a look at wxGlade if you want to do some windowing prototyping: wxglad.sf.net HTH Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: activestate vs enpython
mclaugb wrote: Um, i didnt see at the more information link whether numpy, numarray, matplotlib, scipy, and scientific python was included . There's your answer... :Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum fonction in gadfly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Hicks wrote: I haven't been keeping up. Is Gadfly still in development? I always find this question a little irritating -- gadfly is perfect the way it is :). If it ain't broke don't fix it. At least until the python guys make another non-backwards-compatible change that makes a patch necessary (speaking of things that irritate me...). Seriously, there are a few problems that could be fixed that I can think of, but mostly it works for what it is -- why are people so concerned that it's not changing? I didn't mean to be irritating and I wasn't concerned about it not changing but I could probably have stated the question a little better. For some reason I thought it was a dead project so maybe still being maintained would be a better statement. I dunno. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum fonction in gadfly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Hicks wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why are people so concerned
that it's not changing?
I didn't mean to be irritating and I wasn't concerned about it not
changing but I could probably have stated the question a little better.
For some reason I thought it was a dead project so maybe still being
maintained would be a better statement. I dunno.
You're not the only one. Why do I keep seeing gadfly...dead
in the same sentence?
What if it doesn't need maintenance? Does that make it dead?
No offense to you personally, you are just repeating what
everyone else has been saying for years for reasons that
totally escape me. Several times people have suggested that
gadfly be added to the python standard library and then the
question comes up... who will maintain it? And I answer I'll
maintain it if anyone finds serious problems with it and then
a few months later I hear that it was decided that gadfly was
a dead project. This has been going on since about '97.
It's irritating and tiresome. Sorry, I'm grumpy today.
Hey, that is okay. I know now never to ask that question. : D
Robert
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Re: Python taught in schools?
BartlebyScrivener wrote: dan but out of curiousity does dan anyone know of a school that teaches Python? http://www.python.org/about/quotes/ University of Maryland I have the students learn Python in our undergraduate and graduate Semantic Web courses. Why? Because basically there's nothing else with the flexibility and as many web libraries, said Prof. James A. Hendler. rd Well that Professor has shown his ignorance to the world but not for choosing Python. : ) Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum fonction in gadfly
I haven't been keeping up. Is Gadfly still in development? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Xah Lee network abuse
Erik Max Francis wrote: Mallor wrote: I know I'm coming late to the barbeque. In passing, I ask: do you have an objective, impartial perspective on the subject of committing crimes? Because libel is a crime. No, it is a tort. Can I have whipped cream and strawberries on that tort? :Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: 2 books for me
Wouldn't portability go with Tkinter since that is installed with every Python? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Time to bundle PythonWin
No it isn't. It is a Windows only package. It needs to stay a separate download. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: which windows python to use?
I tend to do ActivePython because the OSX version seems to come out a bit quicker. Although that might change in the future. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter
Maybe because Tkinter comes *with* Python? It is sometimes easier to understand the way things work in Tkinter vs wxPython as well. Though I will add that Manning has just published wxPython in Action so that should help newbies out as well. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: RELEASED Python 2.5 (alpha 1)
That is cool and that will be a great addition to the libraries. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: MVC in Python for web app dev
http://www.myghty.org/ That one is excellent. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python logo in high resolution format
How about we all get tatoos? : ) Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python has a new Logo
You are s lame. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...
Wow you are so wrong about Tk on OSX. Soon this is just not going to be the case at all for any of the system Tcl/Tk runs on. The Tcl folks have come out with a package called Tile that is going to be rolled in. It gives you native LF on OSX, Windows, Linux. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Is python very slow compared to C
Most languages are slow compared to C. Python is fast enough for just about anything you want to do with it. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: error rising while connecting oracle 9i
python_eager wrote: Hi i am connecting my database oracle 9i. While connecting i am getting the following error connection = cx_Oracle.connect(myusername, mypassword, python) RuntimeError: Unable to acquire Oracle environment handle Do you have the Oracle client installed? Might be something wrong with your ORA_HOME. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.4 - Help does not work in Windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Could anyone give me some pointers on where I might look to debug this problem? In case it's any help, I'm running Windows XP SP2, and have installed both Python2.3 and Python 2.4 on the same system. Could this be causing some conflict? It must be. I just tried it with a single install of 2.4.2 on XP and got the help info with help(time). import time time.ctime() 'Wed Jan 04 08:17:29 2006' help(time) Help on built-in module time: NAME time - This module provides various functions to manipulate time values. ... Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF
Guido has never been, is not, and will not in the future be, a threat to Python. End of story. Unless of course aliens come into play. You never know. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Indentation/whitespace
No, it is that simple. You don't want it to be is all. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Indentation/whitespace
I disagree...I don't think the whitespace rule will ever be optional. Why would it be so? If someone doesn't like it...choose another language. It is that simple really. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The Varieties of Pythonic Experience (was: Guido at Google)
You mean Jython is still going? ; ) Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PYTHONDOCS on OSX
Dave Opstad wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I set this variable in my .bash_profile? I have the html docs in /usr/local/PythonDocs. I have a line in my .profile like this: export PYTHONDOCS='/Users/opstad/Documents/Developer Docs/Python-Docs-2.4.1' So by analogy, you could try adding this to your profile: export PYTHONDOCS='/usr/local/PythonDocs' I have that...and it isn't working with the OSX version of IDLE in the MacPython folder. If I start Python from the Terminal it works. Any idea why it doesn't work that way? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
PYTHONDOCS on OSX
How do I set this variable in my .bash_profile? I have the html docs in /usr/local/PythonDocs. Thanks for any help... Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Can't uninstall wxPython
Justin wrote: I have two versions of wxPython installed on my Mac (OS X Tiger). One is version 2.6.1.0 and the other is version 2.6.0.0. I want to keep the newer version, but I can't seem to uninstall either one using the uninstall_wxPython.py script. When I run that script, I get this error message: $ sudo: uninstall_wxPython.py: command not found Is there any way I could delete one, or both, of these installations manually? For some reason, whenever I try to run a wxPython script, it uses the older version of wxPython and it doesn't always run correctly. Thanks in advance. If it has the x bit set you will have to do something like this: sudo ./uninstall_wxPython.py Otherwise pass python explicitly: sudo python uninstall_wxPython.py I think that it is going to wipe out all your wxPython installs...so you will need to reinstall the version you wanted. HTH, Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: A Tcl/Tk programmer learns Python--any advice?
Why does there need to be OO in the core? That is one thing I have never understood. If you want OO, get a package that fits your style of OO and package require you are off and running. That probably isn't what you would be looking at Tcl for anyway. I agree about Tk and I am actually talking with someone about adding a wxTcl to the mix as well. I think wx is a much better toolkit. It is all a question what you want to solve and how you want to solve it. That is so true. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: A Tcl/Tk programmer learns Python--any advice?
Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... Ah, another one leaves the fold... : \ I think I saw somebody say about OO in Python: It's there, but you don't have to use it. Every time somebody wants OO in the core of tcl, he is asked: Why do you want it? If OO was as easy in Tcl as in Python, there would be no real reason to switch in my opinion. (And maybe simpler namespaces and passing of lists to functions, we all love the uplevel and upvar commands, don't we?) -- Svenn That is a misconception. There are several really good packages for OO in Tcl. XOTcl, [incr] Tcl, and my favorite Snit. On top of that there is currently being added OO to the core of Tcl as well. That should all be integrated in when 8.5 comes out in the spring. Tk is getting a native LF uplift as well. However, I think it is more perception than function now. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: A Tcl/Tk programmer learns Python--any advice?
Ah, another one leaves the fold... : \ Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Dealing with Excel
I need to pull data out of Oracle and stuff it into an Excel spreadsheet. What modules have you used to interface with Excel and would you recommend it? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Dealing with Excel
I just want to be and maybe I am not reading your response right. I am talking about reading in bunch of rows out of Oracle and writing them to an excel file, not using macros. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Dealing with Excel
No, I have to format fields and everything sad to say. Another poster up the chain of this posting gave me the nudge in the direction I needed. Thanks all, Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UI toolkits for Python
Grant Edwards wrote: snip Aside from the look feel issue with Tk, the other objection sometimes heard is that Tk is integrated into Python by including Tcl as well (as opposed to doing an actual Tk binding the way some other languages have done). It's an eminently practical approach, but it sure makes you feel dirty. Dirty or not, it allows Python to utilitze any new features of Tk much faster than an actual Tk binding would. That is Perl/Tk's problem...it is slow to adopt new Tk features. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
